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Today, we've come to the historic city of St Albans

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in the home county of Hertfordshire,

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and just look at this incredible queue that has already turned up -

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and it's only 9:30.

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-Are you ready for this, everyone? ALL:

-Yes!

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Well, our valuation day venue lays claim to being the oldest site

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of continuous Christian worship in the country, and it's this,

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the magnificent, the glorious St Albans Cathedral and Abbey.

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Welcome to Flog It!

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For over 1,700 years,

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there have been buildings of worship on the site

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where St Albans Cathedral and Abbey proudly stands today.

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In 793, a Benedictine abbey was founded

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and a small town grew up around the monastery's walls.

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This was the premier Benedictine abbey in the country,

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but was suppressed by Henry VIII in the 16th century.

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Following the dissolution,

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the town bought the church for parish worship.

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Later, in 1877, St Albans achieved cathedral status,

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although it still remained a vibrant parish church as well.

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St Alban, who the Cathedral and the Abbey are named after,

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was the first Christian martyr in this country.

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And he was a citizen of the old Roman town of Verulamium,

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which was the precursor to the city of St Albans we have today,

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and he converted to Christianity

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towards the end of the third century,

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after listening to a Christian priest talk.

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He subsequently helped the priest escape, he took his place.

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But his fellow Roman kinsmen identified him,

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asked him to renounce his new faith. He wouldn't.

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He was put to death for his new beliefs.

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This site, where Alban was buried

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and where afterwards a shrine was built,

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has for centuries attracted hordes of Christian pilgrims,

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and many still come to worship at St Albans Cathedral and Abbey today.

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In June, St Albans hosts a major pilgrimage festival,

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which includes a procession that has giant puppets of Alban

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and his executioners.

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And we have our own group of pilgrims here today,

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who have travelled far and wide,

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laden with antiques and collectables,

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here to see our experts, to ask that all-important question, which is...?

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-ALL:

-What's it worth?

-Stay tuned and you'll find out.

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-Are you ready to go inside?

-Yes!

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On hand to value St Albans antiques and collectables,

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we have our experts, James Lewis and Jonathan Pratt.

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This is amazing. Do you know, I've seen a lot of beadwork,

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but I've not seen a bead snake before.

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-Ah, that's interesting.

-It's trying to get away, actually.

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-Is it Turkish?

-Yes.

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The Turks always made these.

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-Hasap lutfen?

-Yes, very good...

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That's "How much, please?" in Turkish!

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-Have fun.

-Thank you.

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Time to get a wriggle on. Let's get this show on the road.

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And this is where it gets exciting.

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This is the front of the queue and we're going in.

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Come on, everyone!

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Whilst everyone takes their seats and makes themselves comfortable

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in St Albans' beautiful nave,

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let's have a quick look at what's coming up.

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Jonathan uncovers some autographs from the age of flower power.

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Now, did you meet all these people personally?

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-Um, I think I did.

-You think you did. You can't remember!

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And one of our owners is shocked at the value

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of her antique walking cane.

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-James, no!

-It's a fabulously early interesting bit of maritime history.

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I'm absolutely stunned.

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And I'll be stepping away from the nave and the hubbub

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of the valuation day to meet the Very Reverend Dr Jeffrey John,

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the Dean of St Albans Cathedral,

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to find out more about the life of the cathedral today,

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and the people involved in keeping it running.

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But before that, it's time to get our valuations underway.

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-Is everybody ready? ALL:

-Yes.

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Yes, well, any one of you could be going off to auction.

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Let's find out who the first lucky person is.

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Oh, Leslie.

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You have brought a wonderful lot for us today.

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-Have I?

-It's a really interesting walking cane.

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-You don't know quite how interesting, do you?

-No, I don't.

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No! I could tell!

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I saw it poking out of your bag outside in the queue

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and I thought, "Wow, that is a really interesting thing."

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What's the history?

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My mother had it and I believe it came from an aunt of hers.

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Aunt Kathleen. But that's all I know of it.

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OK, now, do you know what it's made from?

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No, I did think it was ivory.

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OK. Well, I'm very glad to say it's not ivory.

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But it is another product that came from generations past.

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It's whalebone.

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Whaling was banned in 1986,

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thank the Lord that we do not allow it today.

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This sort of thing was taken from the whales in the 18th century.

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So, we're talking 200 years ago.

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This is a by-product - the whale's been killed,

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its blubber has been taken for the oil.

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And the sailors on board the boats,

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because they were out at sea for years and years and years,

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while they were out at sea, what do they do

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when they're not chasing whales?

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They have to have something to amuse themselves.

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And they did something called scrimshaw.

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And they would take the teeth of the sperm whale,

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they would take the eardrums from the whales

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and they would carve those.

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And they would also take whalebone

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and they would make things like this.

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So, this is a whalebone walking stick and it dates to 1780, to 1820.

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-So, it's really early.

-Oh!

-It's in the reign of George III.

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The Americans were the great whalers of this period.

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And if we look on the inlay here, we've got a couple of things

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that indicate that maybe this stick was something taken from that area.

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Because we've got that,

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it's a mollusc that is now totally protected and it's abalone.

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And that's the abalone shell.

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And then, here we've got little inlays of palm wood,

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tortoiseshell and also, look, do you recognise what it is?

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-It is a whale.

-It's a whale!

-Yes!

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But this object is rare.

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So, what's it worth?

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-No idea.

-If I said to you it was worth £50-£80,

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-would you be happy to sell it?

-Yes, happy with that.

-Would you?

-Yes.

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How about £400-600?

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-No!

-No, it's not worth £400-£600.

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No. It's worth £600-£1,000.

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James... No!

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It's worth £600-£1,000.

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-No.

-It is a fabulously early, interesting bit of maritime history.

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I'm absolutely stunned.

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We sent it off and it went into a school play as a prop.

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-Did it?

-Yeah, a couple of years ago.

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-What was it?

-I think they were Edwardians or something.

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-Oh, really?

-It went off and the children looked after it really well

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and I'm glad they did.

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I would like to see a reserve of £600, with discretions.

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-That's fine. Absolutely...

-Is that all right?

-Lovely, yes that's great.

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-Thank you so much for bringing it.

-Thank you.

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-Really interesting.

-It's wonderful.

-Great lot.

-Thank you.

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Next, Jonathan is taken by an elegant item.

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-So, hello, Rob.

-Hi.

-You brought along a lovely gold watch.

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-It's not yours, is it?

-It is now!

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-It did belong to my ex-wife.

-It's got quite a lot of style about it.

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Some watches are just very plain, round dials, a bit of leather strap.

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How did you come by it?

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She actually wanted a designer watch,

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so I went into a jewellers come pawnbrokers and saw this.

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And it had a sort of Art Deco feel about it to me, so,

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I liked the face of it and the

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surround on the dial with the sunburst.

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So, I bought that.

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It was a lot cheaper than a designer watch as well.

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-Which helped!

-Well, there is that point.

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And this would go up in value, the designer watch would only drop.

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There is that, I mean, there's a lot of gold there,

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so you're buying an investment in that respect as well.

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But what you've got here is a ladies bracelet wristwatch

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dating from the '70s.

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It's hallmarked for nine-carat gold on the back on there

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and there is a hallmark.

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It's a Birmingham mark but the date letter is very difficult to read.

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But it's in that sort of period, '60s in towards the '70s.

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The brand is Nivada.

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So, a nice Swiss movement.

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You've got this radiating sunburst sort of bezel to it.

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A bit of style about it.

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And then this, I quite like this bar bracelet

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and then a fancy link on the side there.

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The movement of this, you say you like the dial,

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this sort of small movement in the early '50s, 1952,

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Queen Elizabeth's Coronation,

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she wore an extravagant diamond set watch but with a tiny little dial.

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And it sort of generated this fashion for, in the '50s and '60s,

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for these very small dialled wristwatches.

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Why do you want to sell it?

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It's just been sitting a drawer for about 18 years unused.

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Nobody wants to wear it. Nobody wants to wind it up.

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But it does, have you tried winding it?

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-It's working.

-It does work. Let's have a listen.

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Ticking away beautifully. It's keeping very good time as well.

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So, it's got quite a lot of style about it.

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If you go to a pawnbroker, they'll just stick it on a scales

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and say that is worth X in gold and that's it.

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Hopefully, someone's willing to pay more for it.

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Gold value alone would set it at a certain figure.

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I would have thought at auction it's worth between £250 and £350.

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But I would suggest having a reserve around the £230 mark.

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You've got to reserve that, so it protects the gold element

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but you've also got an estimate which encourages the bidding

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-a little bit higher.

-That's great. It's more than I thought.

-Fantastic.

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It was more than you thought? Fantastic!

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Well, we've got off to a great start with both James and Jonathan

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finding a couple of striking items,

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and I've found something very special to show you, too.

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It's called a watching loft and it dates back to the 15th century.

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St Albans is the only place in the country to have one.

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Now, it acts like a medieval CCTV.

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Lay brothers would take it in turns to sit up there,

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and it is very cramped inside,

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and look out through those openings at Alban's Shrine below.

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Not only looking over the shrine, making sure it's all right,

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but making sure that whatever was left by a pilgrim

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wasn't picked up by the next bloke who came in.

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I think it is absolutely fabulous.

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It's constructed of oak, it's got that wonderful dry quality to it.

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It's a real survivor.

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Along the frieze, you can see some wonderful carving,

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look, heavenly figures.

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You can just make out a few angels by their wings.

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It's so terribly worn, but what a survivor.

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That is absolutely stunning.

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It's very impressive.

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And you can see, you get up to it by virtue of these tiny little stairs

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and the whole thing has the most wonderful ornamentation

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and carving to it.

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Right, over to our experts now.

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Hopefully, they're keeping a watchful eye over the next item

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that lands on their table.

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Helen.

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My palms are starting to go a bit clammy.

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-Are they?

-I'm starting to feel nervous.

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These Pelham puppets.

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If only you knew my history with Pelham Puppets.

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I have actually been involved in selling

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-the world's largest collection of Pelham puppets.

-OK.

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Just putting these on the table,

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you know how difficult it is untangling strings.

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-Yes, yes.

-Well, imagine 1,500 of them.

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Oh, my God! OK.

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And if you them stand up, the head always goes in the wrong direction.

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So, if you're trying to take a photograph,

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you then bend it the other way and the head goes...

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And it goes anywhere apart from where you want it to go.

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But anyway, there we are.

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But what's the history, did you play with them as a kid?

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No. I bought them in a car-boot sale,

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-probably three months ago.

-Right.

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There was a box next to this guy's stall and this one was in the top

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when I opened the box, and I said, "How much is the puppet?"

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He said £10.

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I said, "Fine", gave him £10.

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And he gave me the whole box.

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-All of these were in it?

-Yeah.

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-All of them, all eight.

-All for £10?

-Yep.

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-I smell a profit.

-Yes.

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Well done!

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They were made by a chap called Bob Pelham.

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Bob Pelham started in the factory in 1947

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but he originally had a company called Wonky Toys.

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-OK.

-Because during the Second World War,

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he used to sit there making little models of donkeys.

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And he was known as the Wonky Donkey Officer.

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But quite sensibly, he changed the name and formed Pelham puppets.

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And of course they did very, very well,

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especially when Disney gave him the contract

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to make some of the characters from the cartoons.

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We've got Pinocchio here.

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And they came in various sizes.

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Got the little ones like this, but what you haven't got

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are the ones that are about two or three feet off the floor.

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And the one that really gave me the nightmares was the eight-foot clown.

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Oh, no! Bit spooky.

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But they're brilliant fun. Some are much rarer than others.

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The majority of them are worth £10, £20, £30 each.

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But you do get some incredibly rare ones.

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And I have to say, the ones we've got here aren't rare.

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-No.

-So, in terms of value, I think we should put £80-£120 on them.

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-OK.

-But we need to secure them with a reserve, you only paid £10,

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so shall we put £70?

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-Fine.

-As a reserve?

-Yeah, I'm happy with that. That's fine.

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And thank you so much for bringing them in.

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Thank you. I've given you more mad nightmares now!

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We've had a brilliant day so far

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and our experts are still working flat out,

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but they have found their first three items to take off to auction,

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as you have just seen.

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I've got my favourites, you've probably got yours,

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let's find out what the bidders think.

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While we make our way over to the saleroom, here's a quick recap,

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just to jog your memory of all the items we're taking with us.

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Leslie's intricately-carved whalebone cane

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should easily walk away at auction.

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Rob's nine-carat gold bracelet wristwatch

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has been languishing in the drawer for 18 years,

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so it was definitely time for it to see the light of day.

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And finally, Helen's collection of Pelham puppets

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certainly gave James the heebie-jeebies.

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Let's hope the bidders are made of stronger stuff.

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We are only travelling a short distance from St Albans

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to the nearby market town of Tring for our auction today.

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Like the cathedral,

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Tring is a town which is steeped in history

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and it was first mentioned in the Anglo-Saxon record of 571 AD.

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Right, this is the moment I love, putting our valuations to the test.

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And we're doing it here in Tring Market auction rooms.

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In a moment Stephen Hearn, our auctioneer,

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will be getting on the rostrum and getting the lots underway.

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Remember, whether you are buying or selling, there is always commission

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and VAT to pay at every auction.

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So, please bear that in mind,

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as it does add up.

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Here at Tring, sellers pay between 10-15%.

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Stephen Hearn is now on the rostrum, wielding his gavel,

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so it's time to test the first of our valuations.

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Going under the hammer right now, no strings attached, a-ha!

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We've got some Pelham puppets belonging to Helen.

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You know what, I like Pelham puppets.

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I know our expert James is a bit fed up with them, aren't you?

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I don't want to see another one for at least a year.

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No, but do you know, Marlborough in Wiltshire was the home

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for Bob Pelham and his little factory

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and I had an antiques shop in Marlborough.

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So, I kind of,

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I'm kind of connected there somewhere, you know?

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I kind of love Pelham puppets.

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-Hey, good collection anyway.

-Yeah.

-So, why are you selling these?

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I bought them at a car-boot sale.

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-You just want to flip them and make some money?

-Yeah.

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-OK, you paid a tenner?

-Yes.

-£10.

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We're going to turn £10 into £100 right here, right now for Helen.

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Here we go. It's going under the hammer, good luck.

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It's quite a collection of them, almost a village.

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-A village!

-There you are, Pelham puppets, £80 for them.

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Or 50, 60, 70.

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Got it, 70 I am bid for them.

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80 I am bid, 90?

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No. At £80 then, I shall sell them.

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Yes, sold. £80.

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That's still good, we were hoping for 100, we got 80,

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they only cost ten.

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We're happy, you're happy.

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-That's good, yeah.

-Well done.

-Thank you.

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70, 80,

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90 I have now.

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£200, 10...

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Next, let's see if it's a walk in the park

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for Leslie's whalebone cane.

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Absolutely love it. It's gorgeous, isn't it?

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-Why are you selling this?

-Well, we don't parade any more...

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-OK.

-So, we don't put it on the wall or anything, so, it's time to go.

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-OK, hopefully, the money'll come in handy.

-I'm sure it will, yes.

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OK, let's hope we get £1,000. It's going under the hammer right now.

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A love-token walking cane, the 18th century, marine.

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I think possibly that one is rather special.

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£500? 400, then.

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300? Yes, 300 we are bid, then.

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Are you going to be 20, sir?

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And 50 for you?

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380, 400, and 20, and 50, 480 I am bid for it.

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-500, is it?

-Ooh, It's not going to sell.

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480, 500.

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At £500 then, we close.

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Sorry, thank you.

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Of all the "Flog Its!" I've ever done,

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that is the biggest surprise for me, ever.

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I cannot quite understand that.

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-Incredible thing.

-It's an academics piece, isn't it?

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-It really is.

-It needs to be in a very, very good collection.

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-Gosh! I am stunned.

-Well, look, look, there's another day, OK?

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-I would hang onto that.

-Good.

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It's just that there were no buyers here today, OK?

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-OK.

-Golly!

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Finally, let's find out if Rob's gold bracelet wristwatch

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is a crowd pleaser.

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Going under the hammer right now, we have a bracelet wristwatch

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belonging to Rob.

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We've got the item, sadly Rob can't be with us today.

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We do have our expert, Jonathan.

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Now, he bought this 20 years ago.

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It's nine-carat gold and as you know, he only paid about £20 for it

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in a pawnshop, so it's going to make a profit.

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-Absolutely.

-It's going under the hammer now.

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There it is. Ladies gold wristwatch this time.

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Rather nice watch. Got a good strap on it.

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What about 250 for it?

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200? 150? 160. 70.

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80, 90, 200, 210. 220.

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And you're out. It's going then, I sell, at £220.

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-Sold.

-Brilliant! Fantastic result.

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-I'm very happy with that.

-So am I,

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because I didn't see any bids going on.

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They're secret bidders here in Tring, aren't they?

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-Covert.

-Sort of covert bidding.

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The auction house sold Rob's watch for £10 less

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than the agreed fixed reserve,

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so they will make up the difference

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as it was better than losing the sale.

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£200 now. 10, is it?

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Well, there you are, that's our first visit

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to the auction room done and dusted.

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Our first three lots under the hammer.

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We are coming back here later in the programme, don't go away,

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we could have that big surprise.

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Now, I had the opportunity to look around St Albans Cathedral and Abbey

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without the hustle and bustle of the valuation day,

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and I soon discovered it's always a busy place.

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It's an early start at St Albans Cathedral and Abbey.

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The doors open at 7:15am

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with morning prayers swiftly following at 7:30am.

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Before that, the building has to be made ready,

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which is the job of the vergers.

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Over the centuries, countless pilgrims have come here

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to St Albans Cathedral to offer their prayers

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and nowadays, many thousands still do.

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In fact, the cathedral welcomes around 350,000 visitors,

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worshippers and pilgrims each year, and as you can imagine,

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that takes a well-coordinated effort and many willing hands

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to prepare the cathedral to receive their guests

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with such a warm welcome.

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To tell me more about the people who work so hard

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to keep St Albans running today,

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just like their predecessors on this site

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have worshipped it before them,

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I'm meeting with the Very Reverend Dr Jeffrey John, Dean of St Albans.

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Here we are, look, in front of the shrine of Saint Alban.

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Is this the very heart of the cathedral?

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Yes, this really is the heart of it.

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It is the raison d'etre of the whole place, really.

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This is the grave of Alban, the shrine of Alban,

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so it's a very, very busy place.

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We have pilgrims all through the year, people visiting the shrine.

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The Great Feast Of Alban, we had about 10,000 people coming

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and the Archbishop of Canterbury came.

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It was a great occasion.

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But all through the year, people come and visit the place,

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and they may come with a specifically religious motive

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in order to visit the shrine,

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but of course, we get many secular visitors

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or tourists coming as well, because of the great age of the place.

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-Yes.

-The huge historical interest of the place.

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All those ages, there are stories from every century here,

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all of them absolutely fascinating.

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It must take a small army of people to keep the cathedral running.

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Yes, it does.

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We have about 50 paid staff, that's including five clergy

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who look after the spiritual running of the place,

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but also probably more than 600 volunteers...

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-Gosh.

-..who very kindly come and give us their time,

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because they love the place.

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And they do all kinds of things to help us,

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from cleaning and gardening and helping with practicalities

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to looking after the fabric of the place, the textiles.

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And just some of the things you take for granted, I guess.

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Yes, absolutely.

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We have a whole set of expert guides who show people around.

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We rely heavily on volunteers here to keep the whole place running.

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This part here, the north transept,

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this is part of that original structure from the Normans

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that was started in 1077.

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Everything here you see is Norman,

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except for that lovely rose window.

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That was put in in the Victorian period.

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There are about 60 active guides.

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I'm a relatively newly trained guide.

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I've been guiding for five years, and although that begins

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to sound quite serious,

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some of my colleague guides

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have been at the business for much longer.

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The statues that you see there today

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were put in during the Victorian period.

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It takes about a year as a trainee

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because you're encouraged to go on other people's tours,

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and what you'll find,

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because we don't actually have a script here,

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you could go on any number of tours and you'd learn something different.

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Some people specialise in different aspects of the building.

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We've got architects, we've got historians.

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So, people have a different take on the place, which makes it fun.

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In the medieval period, when you would have had pilgrims coming in

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to visit the shrine of St Alban,

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this is where they would start that last section of their visit,

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and that's where we'll follow in their footsteps today.

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It must be lovely, cos you're constantly learning all the time.

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-Yes, absolutely...

-Even you.

-Oh, I am, yes.

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Every time I go on a tour of the place, I learn something new,

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because there's a massive amount to be known.

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When you've got such a length and depth of history in a place,

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you're always learning something new.

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I've noticed some beautiful flower displays here.

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Would the cathedral always have been decorated with flowers?

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Yes. I know there are medieval records from the abbey here

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which list the expenses that have been made on flowers for the altars

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and for particular festivals.

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There's an inventory, is there?

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Yes, and there were particular flowers associated with

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particular festivals - holly and the ivy, for example.

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We know that that was bought in in order to decorate the altar

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and chapels during Christmas season.

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Is it the volunteers who do the flowers?

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Yes. There's the Flower Guild.

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Some of the volunteers are actually trained flower arrangers.

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From time to time, we will have a big flower festival

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and fill the whole cathedral with flowers,

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and all telling a story in some symbolic way.

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It's very cleverly and very beautifully done.

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There are approximately 75 people in the Flower Guild,

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and they range from

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quite experienced to some people who we're teaching,

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cos we're always looking for new members.

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We arrange on Friday morning

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and hope that the cathedral isn't so hot!

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We hope that they last all week.

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I've been in the Flower Guild now

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for 35 years,

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following after my mother,

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who was also a member of the Flower Guild,

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so it's definitely running in the family.

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There have been flowers since medieval times.

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Even through the Reformation, the Roman Catholics,

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when it was Roman Catholic,

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the Roman Catholics loved having flowers in church,

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as they still do today, and that was the one thing that carried on,

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actually, just in a limited way.

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Our flower guild was started in the '20s,

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and until recently, it was always people's gardens,

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the flowers came from gardens,

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and even now, the greenery has,

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and this has come from my garden and this has come from Liz's garden

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and it's lovely to see stuff from the gardens.

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But we do have to buy some flowers

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because it isn't possible for them to last all the time.

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But it's a very enjoyable experience and everybody's so nice.

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We have a lot of fun.

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It's the best thing I do, it really is.

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Well, it certainly is a feast for the eyes when you're standing here.

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Beautiful flower displays here, textiles as well.

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Yes. Yes, we have a textile guild

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that looks after that kind of fabric.

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For example, they made the canopy on top of the shrine,

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which has been very carefully embroidered with flowers

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that would have been blossoming on the hillside here

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at the time when Alban was martyred.

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They look after the altar hangings, the vestments that the priests wear,

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services and so on.

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There are about a dozen of them in the Textile Guild.

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We usually work on Thursday mornings,

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I'm usually here just after nine o'clock.

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We do everything from mending, sewing on buttons, making coats,

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making mitres, cushions, kneelers.

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You name it, if it needs a needle,

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we're ready to work.

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Helen and Vanda,

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they're just doing a little bit of maintenance on the Dean's coat.

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The Dean wears it so much, I think he'd wear it out if he could.

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It's quite heavy, it's on velvet.

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But it's got saints and angels and archangels on

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and it's one of the treasures of the abbey now, I think.

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At the end of another busy day,

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it's the vergers who close down the cathedral.

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It's clear to me that this special place of worship

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wouldn't be the same without the hundreds of volunteers

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who selflessly give up their time to keep it running.

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St Albans Cathedral and Abbey truly means so much to so many.

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Why is St Albans Cathedral and the Abbey so important to you,

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so special?

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This is the oldest Christian site in the whole country -

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1,700 and more years of worship on this spot.

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The fact that this place has been prayed in for all those centuries,

0:27:490:27:53

it's almost seeped into the stones of the place.

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You can feel the holiness of it

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and that's drawn people very powerfully for all those years,

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and keeps drawing them.

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Jeffrey, thank you so much for talking to me today.

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-Great to see you again.

-It's a real pleasure. Thank you.

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Welcome back to our valuation day venue,

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the magnificent St Albans Cathedral.

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This place really is full of history and hopefully today,

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we're going to make some history ourselves.

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We're going to find that one big gem,

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and it's right down there,

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in the nave, it still looks really busy.

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Let's catch up with our expert, Jonathan Pratt,

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and take a closer look at what he's spotted.

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So, you must be...

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-Lydia Stephenson? Is that correct?

-That's right, yes.

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Wonderful, and this would be,

0:28:450:28:47

you've got your little book here of autographs.

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-Did you take them all yourself?

-I did, mainly in the '60s.

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Who have we got in here?

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Well, we've got the Stones with Brian Jones.

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Mick Jagger, Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman.

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-But not Keith Richards, sadly.

-No.

-But then...

-Still time.

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Yes, still time! And Brian Jones.

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We've got four of the Rolling Stones,

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but this is absolutely jam-packed with them.

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-It was January 1964.

-Yeah.

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They came to Kettering, Northamptonshire,

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and did a show and it was their first British tour.

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At the same show with the Stones,

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the Ronettes were there and Dave Berry

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and a few other people,

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Frank Farley and the Pirates, John Leyton and...

0:29:250:29:27

-Mike Preston!

-Yeah, Billy Fury.

-Billy Fury! Good name.

0:29:270:29:31

-Yes.

-Billy Fury. Did you meet all these people personally?

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Well, it was 1964 to 1968, so I think I did.

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You think you did! You can't remember. No.

0:29:390:29:42

Well, I'm sure I did because, as I say,

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a lot of them were in this same show and after the show,

0:29:440:29:47

they came up onto the first floor, where there were tables and chairs,

0:29:470:29:50

and had drinks, so I would go round

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with my autograph book and get them to sign.

0:29:520:29:54

No-one remembers the '60s anyway, so don't worry.

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It's... You know, it's a really nice collection

0:29:570:30:00

of a slice of musical history

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and a lot of people spend years and years doing them,

0:30:030:30:06

but this is your teens.

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-Yes.

-So, this is, you know, a slice of the 1960s.

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I think it's very nice. Now, the thing about autographs are,

0:30:110:30:14

certainly with the most famous of them,

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that they can be faked,

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and there are modern fakes.

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They were sometimes done when bands were very famous,

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certainly with the Beatles, for example.

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Roadies would sign for them.

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And the Rolling Stones were very, very famous,

0:30:260:30:29

certainly by the '70s.

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But you saw them in 1964.

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So, I think we can be fairly confident.

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I say fairly confident, I think we can be confident...

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-Definitely.

-..that they are absolutely right,

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which is absolutely key to their value.

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There are people who would be able to put down the value

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to every single one, and some of them would be worth pounds

0:30:450:30:48

-and others would be worth...

-Exactly.

0:30:480:30:49

..tens and a few hundred pounds.

0:30:490:30:51

My feeling is that this book is worth, at auction,

0:30:510:30:54

between £500 and £700.

0:30:540:30:57

Oh, that's good. Yes, that's lovely.

0:30:570:30:59

Put a reserve on it.

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Obviously, you would like to sell it, but not for anything.

0:31:010:31:04

Oh, no. I've kept it very carefully all these years!

0:31:040:31:07

-So, a £500 reserve.

-Yes, fine.

-£500 reserve.

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Estimate of £500 to £700.

0:31:100:31:12

It will hopefully do much more.

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OK, lovely. Thank you very much.

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# Heartbeat

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# Why do you miss when my baby kisses me...? #

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Over on James's table, something decorative has caught his eye.

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For hundreds of years, France has been the centre for European design,

0:31:280:31:35

fashion and influence in art.

0:31:350:31:37

Now, Michael, is this something you've bought from France

0:31:370:31:40

or a family piece?

0:31:400:31:41

We bought it about 18 years ago.

0:31:410:31:43

-Yeah.

-In Fayence, in the south of France.

0:31:430:31:45

OK, so you bought it in France?

0:31:450:31:47

Yeah, in a sort of...what they call a brocante shop.

0:31:470:31:49

-Junk shop!

-Sort of, yeah.

0:31:490:31:52

-Sorry.

-An upmarket junk shop.

0:31:520:31:54

Well, it just stood out,

0:31:540:31:55

and I think we paid about 250 euros but we just fell in love with it.

0:31:550:32:00

And then, when we got it home,

0:32:000:32:02

we thought, what are we going to do with it?

0:32:020:32:04

Well, what did you do with it?

0:32:050:32:07

-Nothing.

-Did you?

-It's never been used.

0:32:070:32:09

It's been put away.

0:32:090:32:11

Always had this idea to put, like, four white orchids in it,

0:32:110:32:13

this wonderful display, like you see in hotels.

0:32:130:32:16

-Yeah, super.

-But never did it!

0:32:160:32:19

Well, the interesting thing is that I've seen these marketed

0:32:190:32:23

time and time again as wine coolers.

0:32:230:32:26

Commercially, it's worth a lot more if it was a wine cooler.

0:32:260:32:30

-Ah.

-But unfortunately, it's for plants -

0:32:300:32:33

you were closer with the orchids.

0:32:330:32:34

So, let's have a look at the woods and the way it's put together.

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We've got a metal liner and inside that metal liner,

0:32:370:32:41

we've got a very plain wooden frame.

0:32:410:32:43

Sometimes, the carcasses were pine or deal if they were very cheap.

0:32:430:32:47

In this case, I think it could even be oak.

0:32:470:32:49

But the important woods are the ones on the outside,

0:32:490:32:53

and here we've got parquetry -

0:32:530:32:55

kingwood, set into cubes, like a tumbling block affect,

0:32:550:33:00

and those are interspersed with these radiating stars of ebony,

0:33:000:33:05

lacquered brass and blue lacquer.

0:33:050:33:08

It's 1860, it's French.

0:33:080:33:10

We've got a bit of damage this side.

0:33:100:33:12

So, what's it worth?

0:33:120:33:14

In the height of the market, this would have probably been worth

0:33:140:33:18

£200, £300, which I guess is what you paid for it in euros.

0:33:180:33:20

-That's right.

-Today, the market's changed slightly.

0:33:200:33:24

It hasn't gone down much.

0:33:240:33:25

I would say now, it would be 150-200

0:33:250:33:29

but with the damage, 120-180.

0:33:290:33:33

-Yeah.

-Now, we need to put a reserve on it to secure it.

0:33:330:33:36

-How...?

-I think 120 would be fine.

0:33:360:33:39

Wouldn't want to let it go for much less than that.

0:33:390:33:41

Great. 120-180 and do you know, I think it's a great lot

0:33:410:33:44

and it'll be very, very popular in the sale room.

0:33:440:33:46

-I hope so.

-Thank you so much for bringing it in.

-Good!

0:33:460:33:49

Here on the show, we're so grateful when hundreds of you turn up,

0:33:540:33:57

because without you, and our crowds here today,

0:33:570:33:59

it wouldn't be possible to make the show.

0:33:590:34:01

We need your stories and your antiques,

0:34:010:34:03

those wonderful little windows into the past.

0:34:030:34:06

Sometimes, it's not about the value, it's not about what it's worth,

0:34:060:34:09

it's about great craftsmanship.

0:34:090:34:10

That's what we want to flag up.

0:34:100:34:12

And I know it's a long wait.

0:34:120:34:14

Sometimes, you have to wait three or four hours

0:34:140:34:16

but it's well worth it once you see our experts.

0:34:160:34:19

But luckily enough today,

0:34:190:34:20

our great crowd of people can soak up

0:34:200:34:22

such wonderful historic surroundings.

0:34:220:34:25

They can also listen to the guides,

0:34:250:34:27

because many of the guides here are dressed up in historical costume

0:34:270:34:30

with a story to tell.

0:34:300:34:31

I'm going to chat to one right now.

0:34:310:34:33

Julia, hello. Hello, there.

0:34:330:34:35

Thank you so much for coming in and being on Flog It!

0:34:350:34:37

-Hello.

-This is Julia, one of the guides here.

0:34:370:34:39

Now, you're dressed up as who?

0:34:390:34:41

-I am Christina of Markyate.

-And what was her story?

0:34:410:34:44

Ah, Christina was a very powerful lady in her time.

0:34:440:34:48

From the 11th century

0:34:480:34:50

and she had a great deal of influence on the abbot here.

0:34:500:34:54

In fact, her painting, we believe, is on our wall,

0:34:540:34:57

which is most unusual, because generally, they're all male.

0:34:570:35:01

Thank you for that.

0:35:010:35:03

Right now, we need one more item to take off to auction,

0:35:030:35:05

and I've just been told expert Jonathan Pratt has found a real gem.

0:35:050:35:09

Let's take a closer look.

0:35:090:35:11

Well, this sort of takes me back to my childhood, Martin.

0:35:140:35:16

Is this a set you played with as a child?

0:35:160:35:18

Very early on. 1960s was the last time it was out of the box.

0:35:180:35:22

But you spent your childhood playing with train sets?

0:35:220:35:24

Under supervision of father, because this gets very hot.

0:35:240:35:27

Yeah, well, I think, you know, this runs on methylated spirits.

0:35:270:35:31

-It's a meth...

-You have to set it on fire, don't you?

0:35:310:35:33

-Yes.

-You've got to get the thing going.

0:35:330:35:35

It sounds like a terribly dangerous thing

0:35:350:35:37

for a child to be playing with.

0:35:370:35:38

Probably would be viewed as today, yes.

0:35:380:35:40

Is this a Christmas present?

0:35:400:35:41

No, I've inherited these from my father.

0:35:410:35:43

So, this could have been used by your father, then?

0:35:430:35:46

I think it was used by him. I think he acquired it in the 1950s.

0:35:460:35:49

This train set itself, in that box there,

0:35:490:35:51

from the Bassett-Lowke factory.

0:35:510:35:53

This model here, the Super Enterprise,

0:35:530:35:55

was available from about 1937 onwards

0:35:550:35:57

through into the early part of the '60s.

0:35:570:35:59

I mean, this is the rarest model of Bassett-Lowke engines.

0:35:590:36:03

-Oh, right.

-But sadly,

0:36:030:36:05

we've got a few conditional problems.

0:36:050:36:07

There's a little bit of paint loss on the top here.

0:36:070:36:09

Well, it's been used. That's the...

0:36:090:36:10

-Well, toys should be used, shouldn't they?

-Yeah.

0:36:100:36:12

So, you've got this engine and you've got some carriages.

0:36:120:36:15

Now, tell me about the carriages.

0:36:150:36:16

We've got three of these in their original boxes.

0:36:160:36:19

Now these, obviously looking at the boxes, this is a Bassett...

0:36:190:36:22

This is a Bassett-Lowke coach.

0:36:220:36:24

We've got three of these and we've got these restaurant cars.

0:36:240:36:28

I mean, these are absolutely mint.

0:36:280:36:29

-Oh, they are.

-Which suggests they're not played with.

0:36:290:36:32

I mean, did you have the whole lot set up?

0:36:330:36:36

The intention was to run it round our loft in the family home

0:36:360:36:41

but we never got round to it.

0:36:410:36:42

The stuff we played with was the smaller stuff.

0:36:420:36:45

Are you still a train enthusiast?

0:36:450:36:46

Not particularly now, no.

0:36:460:36:48

So, you'd probably be quite happy to sell it, wouldn't you?

0:36:480:36:51

Yes, we are.

0:36:510:36:52

Somebody said to us "Flog It!" was coming to town and we said,

0:36:520:36:55

"Right, let's do it," and that's why we've come!

0:36:550:36:59

My feeling for the value of it, it's between £200 and £300.

0:36:590:37:04

-OK.

-And what I would suggest is put a reserve at £170.

0:37:040:37:08

-How does that sound?

-OK.

0:37:080:37:10

Well, thank you very much for bringing it along

0:37:100:37:12

and I hope...this engine's journey comes to a happy ending.

0:37:120:37:16

Thank you very much.

0:37:160:37:18

Well, there you are.

0:37:240:37:26

Our experts have now found their final items to take off to auction,

0:37:260:37:29

which means we have to say goodbye to our magnificent

0:37:290:37:32

host location today, the fabulous St Albans Cathedral and Abbey.

0:37:320:37:37

I've thoroughly enjoyed being here.

0:37:370:37:38

It's been a real privilege soaking up the history

0:37:380:37:41

and listening to all the important people that keep this place running.

0:37:410:37:44

And of course, to all of you for coming in,

0:37:440:37:47

thank you so much for bringing in your treasures.

0:37:470:37:49

Our journey isn't over right now.

0:37:490:37:51

We're going straight across to the auction room

0:37:510:37:53

and here's a quick recap of all the items we're taking with us.

0:37:530:37:56

Lydia had a fabulous time collecting her autographs in the '60s

0:38:020:38:05

and we hope the bidders will now enjoy them too.

0:38:050:38:08

Bought 18 years ago in the South of France,

0:38:100:38:13

where will Michael's jardiniere travel to next?

0:38:130:38:16

And finally, it's time for a new station stop

0:38:170:38:20

for Martin's collection of Bassett-Lowke engine and carriages.

0:38:200:38:23

We are back at Tring Market Auctions to sell our final three lots

0:38:320:38:36

and Stephen Hearn is still doing the business on the rostrum.

0:38:360:38:39

# I'm gonna tell you how it's gonna be

0:38:390:38:42

# You gonna give your love to me... #

0:38:440:38:47

And going under the hammer right now,

0:38:470:38:49

we have that wonderful autograph album book belonging to Lydia.

0:38:490:38:52

It's got the Rolling Stones in it, but not Keith Richards.

0:38:520:38:55

-Not Keith Richards.

-OK, it's nearly the complete band,

0:38:550:38:57

so the complete band alone is worth around £800

0:38:570:39:00

in the right market, isn't it?

0:39:000:39:02

We're just missing Keith's signature.

0:39:020:39:03

-Don't know where he was.

-No.

-But hey-ho.

-Brian Jones was there.

0:39:030:39:06

But you were there, weren't you? You were there and...

0:39:060:39:08

-I was there. It's in my diary.

-This is an entry from the diary

0:39:080:39:11

from that very day - listen to this.

0:39:110:39:13

OK, so it's the 9th of January, 1964.

0:39:130:39:16

"Went to the Granada to see Rolling Stones, Swinging Blue Jeans,

0:39:170:39:21

"Marty Wilde, Ronettes, the Chains and Dave Berry.

0:39:210:39:25

"He was absolutely wonderful."

0:39:250:39:26

Aw! And the Stones weren't top of the bill then, were they?

0:39:260:39:30

No, they weren't. No, they weren't very famous at all then.

0:39:300:39:32

Yeah. Well, good for you.

0:39:320:39:34

Right, it's going under the hammer now. This is it.

0:39:340:39:36

What about 400 for it?

0:39:370:39:39

300? 200, I have.

0:39:390:39:40

220, and 50.

0:39:400:39:42

280. 300. 320 for it.

0:39:420:39:45

350. 380, sir?

0:39:450:39:46

380.

0:39:460:39:48

Yes, at 400?

0:39:480:39:49

And 20? There's two of you who want it.

0:39:490:39:51

450. 480. At £480, then.

0:39:510:39:54

If there is no further bid, it's going down and I shall sell.

0:39:540:39:57

Yes, and the pen has gone down!

0:39:580:40:01

£480.

0:40:010:40:03

OK, we had a fixed reserve at 500,

0:40:030:40:05

but I know Stephen the auctioneer will make up the difference to you.

0:40:050:40:08

-That £20.

-Oh, that's lovely.

-So you've got your £500.

0:40:080:40:10

Oh, that's fantastic!

0:40:100:40:11

# Baby, picture me with someone else... #

0:40:110:40:14

Next, let's keep our fingers crossed for that jardiniere.

0:40:170:40:19

-It's Michael, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:40:200:40:22

Great to see you. And look how smart you look!

0:40:220:40:24

You're in the fashion business, and it shows, doesn't it?

0:40:240:40:26

-It does. Very much.

-I like that. I like that look.

0:40:260:40:28

And I can understand why you're jardiniere doesn't suit

0:40:280:40:31

your new Arts-and-Crafts-style house.

0:40:310:40:33

It would really ring a clash, wouldn't it?

0:40:330:40:35

-Yeah.

-So, it's got to go.

0:40:350:40:37

It's a nice thing. I like it.

0:40:370:40:38

-Ready to go for this?

-Absolutely.

0:40:380:40:40

Let's do it, it's going under the hammer now.

0:40:400:40:42

Nice piece of Victoriana.

0:40:420:40:43

Surely it's 120?

0:40:430:40:45

Come on, where are those hands?

0:40:450:40:47

I've got 90 now.

0:40:470:40:48

£100? Who's got the ten?

0:40:480:40:50

And 20? Yes.

0:40:500:40:51

At 120. And 30 now?

0:40:510:40:54

At £120, then.

0:40:540:40:57

Mon Dieu! Well done, it's gone.

0:40:570:40:59

-It's gone, great!

-It's gone.

-Yeah.

0:40:590:41:01

-You can go and buy some Arts and Craftsy stuff now.

-That's right.

0:41:010:41:04

Finally, it's full steam ahead for our last lot of the day.

0:41:100:41:14

The tension's building right now.

0:41:140:41:15

Going under the hammer, we've got something

0:41:150:41:17

for all you railway enthusiasts.

0:41:170:41:19

We've got a Bassett-Lowke engine,

0:41:190:41:20

plus five carriages, belonging to Martin.

0:41:200:41:22

-So, why is it time to say goodbye?

-Because it's gathering dust at home.

0:41:220:41:26

It's never been out the box, Paul.

0:41:260:41:27

-Don't want to pass it on to anyone else in the family?

-No.

0:41:270:41:30

-It's time to move it.

-OK.

0:41:300:41:32

They're going to find a new home today, I'm pretty sure.

0:41:320:41:34

And I saw a chap earlier who's come here to buy this and I said,

0:41:340:41:37

"Are you buying or selling, sir?"

0:41:370:41:39

And he said, "I've actually come to buy something."

0:41:390:41:41

"What are you buying?" He said, "That train set over there."

0:41:410:41:43

I said, "That's one of ours. I'll be watching you."

0:41:430:41:45

And he's just down there, Martin.

0:41:450:41:47

So, hopefully, he's going to buy it.

0:41:470:41:49

It's going under the hammer right now.

0:41:490:41:50

I think we ought to be looking somewhere around £300 or £400,

0:41:500:41:54

don't you? 300? 200?

0:41:540:41:56

220 I have. 250.

0:41:560:41:58

Yeah, he's bidding. Look, the chap, he is bidding.

0:41:580:42:00

300, we have. 320?

0:42:000:42:02

350? 380, I have now.

0:42:020:42:05

£400?

0:42:050:42:06

At 420. 450 I have now.

0:42:060:42:09

480...

0:42:090:42:10

That chap's still buying it, look. Can you see that chap down there?

0:42:100:42:13

560.

0:42:130:42:15

Yes, go on! Keep your hand up. He's a keen bidder.

0:42:150:42:18

580, is it?

0:42:180:42:19

At 570, I'm selling it, then.

0:42:190:42:21

You lose it. At £570.

0:42:210:42:25

-£80?

-It's interesting!

0:42:250:42:28

£600? 610.

0:42:280:42:30

20, 30, 40, 50...

0:42:300:42:33

He's out. Aw!

0:42:330:42:35

650 then, on my left.

0:42:350:42:37

It's going down, then.

0:42:370:42:38

For £650.

0:42:380:42:41

Sold, £650.

0:42:410:42:43

Fantastic! Very good. Well done.

0:42:430:42:45

Very good. Thank you very much.

0:42:450:42:47

We were certainly ON TRACK with that, weren't we?

0:42:470:42:49

And what a way to end today's show.

0:42:490:42:52

We've had a marvellous time here at Tring Auction rooms.

0:42:520:42:55

I hope you've enjoyed the show.

0:42:550:42:56

I told you there'd be a big surprise and we definitely got it.

0:42:560:42:59

We're all chuffed here. See you next time.

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