02/05/2013 The One Show

with Matt Baker... And Alex Jones. Tonight's guest is a singer

songwriter, who started out as Genevieve, then known as Alf, but

over the past 30 years, we have known her for her unmistakable

voice... # It's that old devil called love

again. # I'm all cried out

# You took a whole lot of loving for a handful of nothing.

# We all need a love # Just a little bit of divine

intervention. # I'm never gonna let you go

# Don't go! It is, of course, Alison Moyet!

APPLAUSE We were bopping there! Wonderful to

have you here, Alison. You are looking fantastic as well.

Can we ask, first of all, where did the nickname Alf come from? I was

like a Boyce rouse teenager, so when I was asked me name, I would say

"Alf." I I liked it so I kept it. . Do you your friends still call you

Alf? My old friends do, yeah. I am sure that everyone is delighted

to hear that you are back in the studio and with a new album out as

well. Looking forward to talking to you about that.

Fantastic. And then Marty Jopson is looking to

fold a piece of paper many times. He has a piece of paper that is 3000m.

My goodness. As we are on a paper-folding theme, top origami

expert, Mark Bolitho is here, making a sculpture for us in the studio,

all will unfold later on. Cheers, Mark.

If you have a sheet of paper to hand, we want to see what you can

make. Of course! We want to see your best origami creations.

That would be lovely. Earlier this year, Iwan Thomas visited Cheshire

to see how the engineers were repairing a hole on the side of a

flood-damaged canal. It is now three months later and

Iwan has good news? I have cracking news. I visited before, this place

was carn agenda, but tonight loads of locals have turned out. Loads of

people are here, it is the grand re-opening of the canal. It did not

look like this a few years ago. On the 26th of December, this year,

floods destroyed this historic waterway. The reason was that 2012

was the second wettest year on record.

I was struck by the scale of the destruction hole and the hole left

on the embankment. It is hard to describe the sheer devastation

caused but to put it in perspective, where I am standing, you could fit

12 double-decker buses! Then started the job for the can l and river

Trust to return this stretch of waterway to its former glory.

I'm with Vince Moran. You are the operations director here at the

Trust. You have done a fantastic job. I was here before, I must say

that this looks great. How much did it cost? Well, with welcome

donations from people from the YMC A, it was just over �2 million.

Was it on time? Thanks to the work from our engineers and volunteers

and the contractors, here we are. You are a man of your words. Join us

later for a whole flotilla of boats here, there will be ramblers and

walkers and I am privileged as I will be the first to go down the

canal. Well, a flotilla of boats. A special

occasion, covered by the BBC, what could possibly go wrong? ! Now, over

the last decade, the percent agenda of British people who own their home

has fallen to its lowest level. But the percent agenda of people

renting has risen for the first time since 1918, but it does not mean it

is looking Rosie for the landlords. 8. 30am. For most, an opportunity

for a lie-had in but for this man, this is his prime slot.

Good morning, Paul, what are we doing up at the crack of dawn on a

Saturday morning? We are here to serve a legal notice on a tennants.

He is outstanding more than two months rent.

So, how prevalent is this? Well, people are struggling to generally

pay the bills. You have more amateur landlords coming into the

marketplace that are not managing and a massive lack of social

housing. Councils relying on the private sector, landlords, to rent

to tennants. During the housing boom, buy to let

was seen as a way of making money. Some landlords like the security of

those on housing benefits, as it was paid directly to the landlord, but

in 2008, Housing Benefit changed. Instead of the money going to the

landlord it went to the Tennant, responsible for paying the rent.

This was thought to be empowering, but the National Landlord's

Association said it led to over �220 million of rent arrears for its

members. Here these people have become

amateur landlords when they bought a new family home together and decided

to rent out Sandra's old house. How long have they not been paying

rent for? Three months in arrears. What does it mean financially?

have put the mortgage on credit cards. We have asked family to lend

us money as well to get through the next few months.

Who do you feel most let down by? would say the tennants. The money

was given to them, all they had to do was give it to us.

How concerned are you by what happens to the tennants if they are

evicted? I don't care. I know that happens -- sound awful. I know that

they will be given probably a nice new four bedroom house, so they will

be better off than we will. A third of Housing Benefit claimants

rent from private landlords. The other two thirds are in social

housing. Their rent is paid directly to the landlord, but that is about

to change with the introduction of universal credit. Where the

claimants get a lump sum paid into the bank account, to include the

Housing Benefit. Southwark council has been taking part in a project

for almost a year. It has noticed problems with the rent.

People have gotten into a month or two months arrear, we are looking,

if it were the whole of the councils tennants, we are looking at an extra

�14 million arrearses. Really? Yes. It could increase the

rent arrears by at least �14 million a year. We have had to develop a lot

more time to supporting people in the process. We have learned that

there need to be s in order for it to be rolled out across the country.

There will be people falling into rent arrears and then facing

eviction. That will add a greater burden to the public purse.

Other councils in the scheme have experienced similar issues. The

Department for Work and Pensions said that paying housing costs to

claimants allows them to take greater responsibility for finances

and break as barrier that people face when moving into work. Pro

etext is to be in place for tennants and landlords if a claimant falls

behind with the rent, but for Sandra and Steve, the system allows two

months of arrears before action is taken. That means that Paul is still

busy serving rent Marks & Spencer and eviction notices.

-- notices. There is a lot at steak, both

Tennant and the landlord could loose their property.

That was not the response you were looking for? No, you want someone to

answer the door, and then I can tell them why I'm serving notice.

The Tennant may not have answered the door to Paul but later they

answered the door to us. Steve disputes the rent arrears but is

having problems with the current benefit system.

Are you struggling to pay the rent? And are you struggling more

generally with other bills? Yes. So would you rather that the council

paid the Housing Benefit straight to the landlord? It would be years. We

are a family of six. The shopping bill is over �100. Then with the

gas, electric and petrol, something there is nothing to make up the

difference. I would rather that the money go to

the landlord. It is one less thing to worry about.

Thank you. It is interesting that both parties

are saying the same. Thank you very much.

Alison, we were saying, it has been a while since you had an album out,

the new one is out on Monday. So exciting times? It is very exciting.

I had a hard time making it. Someone of my age, they expect corp albums,

it is hard to find a record company that wants original material.

Why did you call it The Minutes? feel at a certain age you have been

sold an idea that your life is joyful and everyone is getting it

right, you may be getting it wrong but the truth is that real joyful

times are happening in minutes that are strung in pedestrian years. I

made a huge effort to make the album, those are some of my minutes.

Let's have a listen to the first single on the album, called When I

Was Your Girl. # Then today

# All the night came away # All the tears I tried to stain

# You were never satisfied # When I was your girl

APPLAUSE It is a brilliant single. .

It is having a lot of air play. That is a lovely concept as that is your

girl? That is my girl. That was on South End pier. About that day the

heavens opened it rained all day. We got about three passes! It was

terrible. Nothing to edit with. The poor soul, it was the first time she

was doing filming. Was that your idea? I wanted to take

my daughter to work day! I liked the idea of that, but there was not much

else that they could cut in. She was pushed, bless her.

It looks lovely, though, the video. You are touring as well? Yeah,

touring in the autumn. What is fantastic, this is a electr album,

the touring is programmes, computers, screens, so I can revisit

some of the Yazoo material. I bass read reading you saying that

this is one of the best times you have had with music? It is

brilliant. I had help with my producer. We had no arguments. That

was amazing for me. I didn't having a argument! Fantastic! Will this be

the last album, or will there be more? You never know. I like to see

a chinning of light. If there is too much work I get cabin fever. Don't

tell me what is happening tomorrow. This is superb. The Minutes is out

on Monday. When I Was Your Girl is available now.

On the subject of albums, if you thought downloading would mean the

death of the compilation album, Alison will tell you are wrong. .

You are wrong! One in five albums sold is a compilation. Now Now

That's What I Call Music 84 is the fastest selling album of 2013.

40 years ago another compilation topped the charts by copying the

Tops. -- Pops. Here is Carrie Grant. When I was

growing up, Sunday was always the Chart Show on radio One. Thursday

was Top Of The Pops night. Kids like me built their lives around the two

events. They told us the latest music and the records we should be

buying. If you are a certain age, you could go to the local store and

buy a whole top of the pops album of hits for the same price as a single.

Between the years 1968 and 1984, the albums cashed in on the success of

the real Top Of The Pops by offering cover versions. They became chat

toppers in their own right. So who was behind the albums and how did

they get away with it? Keith Richards is fascinated by the

albums. Where did it start? It was the idea

of a chap called Alan Crawford. He came up with the name Top Of The

Pops. That was the name of the pop show. That was the master show. Most

people, myself included, assumed that the LPs were related to the

television programme. But it was not? It had nothing to do

with the television series, but amazingly, the BBC had not

trademarked the and Alan was free to use the name for his LPs. Two albums

topped the charts. The reason they but Marty Jay. He sang on 200 of Top

of the Pops cover versions. 30 years since the release of the last album

I'm going to meet this secret popstar. How were you expected to

learn the songs? You were expected to go and buy the record. You would

hunt around for the record. You would write the lyrics down your

self-. If you wrote the lyrics down by hand, you, by the time you got to

the end of it, you pretty much knew the song. Sglp was the recording

process fast? They would do 12 tracks in a day. I want to see if

you have your chops today! Are you sure? I will send you to a studio

and see if you can sing some of those old Top of the Pops songs. We

have T-Rex with 20th K century Boy. # Everybody says it's just like

rock-and-roll... # Excellent. I love it! The next one I

will give him is by this fella, Dave Edmonds. In 19 70 you were at No 1

for six weeks, the song was called? I Hear You Knocking.

# I hear you knocking, but you can't come in... #

First thoughts? I thought this was a regard no couldn't be covered. I

think I'm right. I don't I do not think the record companies were

happy. Shall we see Martin? Let him out of Mississippiery. Martin has

never met any of the singers he covered before. He has no idea that

Dave is herelet. -- here. We heart Martin. How about the two of you

together? Is this a first? A chart-topping musician singing

alongside an unknown Top of the Pops cover singer?

# You went away and left me a long time ago

# Now you're knocking on my door # I hear you knock knocking

# But you can't come in... # The final Top of the Pops album hit

the shops in 19 84. By then a new era of compilation albums arrived.

These hits were the real deal. Looking back, I'm surprised they got

away with it so long. Wow, his face there. He didn't look too happy?

wasn't best pleased. How did you feel Wen people covered your songs,

Tom Jones did the Situation, didn't he? I love. It I'm not precious. If

you write a book why should you judge who reads it. It proves it is

a good song. It is flattering and plus you make money. You had some of

the tops of the pops albums? I loved them. You won them at the school fet

Ted -- fete. Can you guess who this is singing a cover version of Snake

in the Grass. There is the album cover. It is there. Let us listen to

how the song sounded. Very famous singer now this guy. OK. We have a

silhouette for you, as if that is going to help at all. It's tough.

was thinking, is he Australian? plays a piano. He hasn't confirmed

that was him doing it. Leo Sawyer. Begins with an "E"? Elton. Elton

Jarvis! Some may say that he did it. Earlier we asked you to send

pictures of your paper folding efforts. We have a few. Alison shows

yours. My brother George made this. A swan. A lot of time and effort

went into that one. This is dragon I make one every time I advice ate

hotel in Wales. There is one there. Not to be out done here is Marty

Jopson with his own record-breaking paper folding attempt. Take a piece

of Afghanistan 4 paper, fold it in half, folded it in half again and

keep going. How many times can you six. Seventh one. I might need a

hammer. Crazy as it may sound, it's math matically impossible to fold a

sheet of A4 paper like this in half more than seven times. The problem

is, every time I make a fold the paper shrinks in length and doubles

in height. This is happening at what is known as an ex-spend nonceial

rate. Quickly I run out of paper. If you want more folds you need more

paper. To find out how much more paper we need a clever calculation.

In 2002, 16-year-old California Brittany Galvan came up with an

equation tae tells you how much paper you need to give you a given

number of folds. To find out more I'm meeting Dr Nick let Rattenbury.

We have T which is the thickness of the paper we are working with. N is

the number of folds that we want to be able to make. I want to try and

beat Brittany's 12 folds. How much paper will I need to make 13?

Thickness is 58 millionths of a meter. We will have to increase our

N by one. We have 13. This will be a big number, isn't it? The equation

tells us we need more than 2,000 meters of paper. To be safe we are

going to use more. I would suggest using 3,000 meters. Nearly two miles

of paper. It's an epic amount of paper. Now, we need somewhere

equally epic to fold it. This is it, deep below Kilder Water in

Northumberland is an enormous tunnel and a team of volunteers waiting to

help me plus an ultra long, ultra thing roll of newspaper print. We

are ready to start folding paper. This tunnel is big, but not quite

big enough. To make our first fold we need to unravel a mile of paper.

It means snaking the paper up-and-down the tunnel five times.

We are ready for the first fold. down, 12 to go. Our specially cut

paper is incredibly thin. It's also incredibly fragile. No, it's torn!

After the first four folds, our paper has shrunk from 3,000 meters

to less than 200 making it easier to manage. That is fold number seven.

It's what you get if you started with an A4 sheet of paper. Let us

hope we can get a few more folds. We are 12 hours and 12 folds in. This

has equaled the world record. Are you ready, chaps, ladies? Here we

go. Now is our big moment. We are trying to fold po more than 4,000

layers of paper. The pole is going. It was a split second. It looks like

we made 13. What does paper folding pioneer think of our achievement?

It's a great accomplishment. I'm really proud that someone is trying

to take on the challenge. When are we doing 14 folds? Oh, no! Not 14!

14 folds that would take five miles of paper. I'm pretty pleased with

13. That was challenging enough. We are joined by Mark our origami

expert. Surrounded by your amazing creations. Thank you very much.

are the Chair of the British Origami Society. Yes. It's one of the oldest

societies in the world for origami. What is the strangest request you

have been commissioned? I have made a diesel engine, animals, giant

gorilla, a massive parrot. What size gorilla? My size. Alison has been

inspired by all of this. She hit us with this wonderful thing, you can

rip a piece of paper so many ways you can climb through it. I have a

horrible feeling it will not happen. I'm wasting trees. Have a look at

what Mark has been doing. You have been here since lunch. You have been

folding ever since. It's a bigger square of paper. You can see me in

action. Racing around. How many folds? There could be 100.100

folds. It is easier, if it's smaller it's easier. This make it is look

accessible. It looks impressive. What do you think it might be?

small yacht. At apprentice has become the master. We will unveil

your creation. It's a rhino. A white rhino. Isn't that beautiful. Thank

you. Do stay with us to find out if the Alison can get through her own

piece of paper. Don't hang around too long. You carry on. Time back to

Iwan on the Trent and Mersey canal for the grand reopening. Are you

ready? I'm ready. I'm so excited. I feel privileged. In a minute I will

breakthrough the ribbon. The crowds are brilliant. The people have

turned out. It illustrates how important this stretch of the canal

is. When it burst its banks last year it was not a good time. We have

ramblers, dog walkers, bands and loads of boats. I have a very, very

important boat behind me. It's very historic, that is the Pava, it was

built by Harland and Woolf. They are the shipbuilders that built the

Titanic. I have been here all day, the sun has been out. There is no

Eisenbergs around here. Someone who is not frosty is Belinda. You run

the local tea room, you were one of the first people here to see the

canal burst? I was, yes. It was scary. You are dressed for the

occasion? Boat costume.Was bad for local businesses? All the boat

businesses. Fantastic reopening. are really excited? I'm so excited.

I am. I have seen this place trance ford formed. Are you all excited?

Come on! Some of the workers are there. You have done a great job. I

want a massive cheer when we go through here. We will go through in

10 seconds. I feel privileged to be here. Speed it up. In about 5, 4, 3,

2, 1. Here we go! YES! We've done it. One of the first boats, the

first boat down here. I feel very, very PLIF ledged indeed. Look at the

atmosphere. Everyone is so proud. Do you know what, here is another 250

years to boats coming down this canal. It's an amazing place.

looks like a lovely evening in Dutton. Congratulations to everyone

involved. Thank you recall for your creation. This is a tulip. Amy from

Bristol sent this in. Her boyfriend Jason made it for her. This is from

Emma. Thank you. Isn't that lovely. That is a nice one. This apparently

is some kind of alien from a video game from Gabrielle. The moment has

come for you to climb through? not impressive, but it's quite a big

piece of paper. Can you do it?Lord Alan sugar is on the show we want to

hear from you if you have started the business and will be trading