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After weeks of rain, we go inside a rainbow and give people a glimpse

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Hello, and welcome to a very overgrown One Show studio with Matt

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Baker. And Alex Jones. Wow, you leave the the studio unattended for

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a few weeks and look what happens! Well, at least it's making our

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guest tonight feel right at home, Friendly atmosphere. Something is

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different... I cannot work out what it is! People are going to be

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wondering how this makes you feel at home, what have you been doing

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in the words, Will? I have been singing, yes, I have been singing

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shows for the Forestry Commission. I have got one more to go, and what

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is great about them, well, it is sold out, that is nice, and the

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profits for the Forestry Commission go back into the forests, it keeps

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them ticking over. It is a good cause. It has not been the best

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summer for it, but the audiences have been amazing. Do you dress up

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as Robin Hood? I wanted to, and as a Morris dancer, and both of them

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were ruled out by my very good manager, otherwise I wouldn't have

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a career. Talking about the atmosphere, it must be great to do

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it in the woods. It is brilliant, but the last place I went to, it

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was a natural basin, almost like a natural amphitheatre, and the

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audiences have been amazing, because some of them have been

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quite wet, and they stay, they do not leave. I would leave,

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personally! They love you, Will. You are doing something you have

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never done before, and we will talk to you about that later on. Yes,

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what is it? We are hoping you can tell us! This week sees the start

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of the BBC's When I'm 65 season, a series of programmes about the

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fastest-growing age group in the UK. To some people 65 can seem a long

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way off, so we sent two of our older team members to give them a

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This looks like a go at spot, doesn't it? Nice and busy.

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Guildford is perfect, let's go and have a word with a few people. What

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you think of my grey hair? I was wondering whether it was real!

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Really?! I love that. I think the Silver Fox looks suits you. You why

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are all right, yes. How would you feel if you looked like Alex when

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you're 65? I would be happy with that. Really?! What do you reckon

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you will be like? What you hope for? I think I will still be

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working. Maybe I will at some grandchildren by then. It is

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worrying, because some people are just watching us, going, they look

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old off the television. What about that woman with the trolley?

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took a long time to work out you were wearing a wig. And someone

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called Matt John Craven! What will you look like? I would be

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interested to find out. Well... Were have got some of the latest

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phone apps which can add decades to your image right in front of your

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eyes. Oh, dear! We are upsetting the whole of goal 30th. I think the

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beard would hide the jowls. Are you going to keep it? It hides a

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multitude of sins! Does it make you think, I will not drink as much?

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Right, that is it, we are done, we have got to get the buzz back by

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What a way to start back after three weeks off, we do not look

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relaxed, we look for all. We are still picking pieces of latex off.

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We have tried it and you, Will, you will be glad to know. Thank you so

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much! This is Will as he is now. These is Will Young, and here comes

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will hold. -- will hold. You do not look too bad! New line just

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stretched slightly, gravity has taken hold. That is really

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depressing. Nice shirts that he is wearing. No alcohol, you'll be

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fine! During the Jubilee, we met loads of big stars over 65, Paul

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McCartney, Elton John, Tom Jones. Which would you most like to be

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like? Well, if we are thinking are musicians, another one he was over

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65 is Stevie Wonder. His voice is still amazing, he has obviously got

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that catalogue of songs. If I could sing like him when I am 65, I would

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be very happy. You obviously think about the future quite a lot,

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longevity is a big thing. Oh, yeah, planning from the beginning, really.

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Where I'm at now, my 5th studio album is where I wanted to get to.

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I think you have to come as a performer, you have to think ahead.

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This series of programmes coming up on the BBC, When I'm 65, it is

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going to be great, keep an eye out. If you need more inspiration to you

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look after yourself, look no further than this man, Terry Donlon.

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Andy Murray may be making headlines in the tennis, but in the table

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tennis world, this man is the big story, find out why later. Terry

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and Will are going to play, so we will let Terry warm-up a bit there.

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Rain does not stop play on the One Show. A man who has finished his

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warm-up and is raring to go is Marty Jopson, who was marking the

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wettest June on record by putting himself inside one of nature's most

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Rainbows, one of the most delightful spectacles in the

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natural world, always with the promise of a pot of gold at the end.

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But how do rainbows happen? And can we make one for ourselves? Oh, and

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I've got some bad news about that part of gold -- pot of gold. To see

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rainbows, you need sun and rain at the same time. To make rainbows,

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you need to know three bits of physics. Number one, liked Ben's

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when it hits water. And it also splits in two different colours.

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Philip, one of the world's rainbow experts, has a glass and light to

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show just that. Each colour pens at a slightly different angle, so we

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get the familiar rainbow colours. There it is! No. Two, this explains

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were the curve comes from. The shape of a raindrop. Raindrops are

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almost spherical, something like this. This is a light bulb which I

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have filled with water, and we can see it, the curved arc of the

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rainbow. That is really good, there it is, look. But why can we never

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travel under the arch? Why is it that even when you move towards a

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rainbow, it never seems to get closer? It is all down to the third

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bits of rainbow physics, angles. Now, to see a rainbow, the son must

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be behind you, so if this is me here, right, like that, there is my

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nose, there is the hair, the son has to be back here, behind you.

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The rain it has to be in front of you. It does not need to be raining

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on you. Then light from the Sun hits the drops of rain, just like

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with the light of that was full of water, the light from the Sun has

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bounced back and hits as in the eye. And this is the crucial bit, your

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shadow. Imagine a line between your eyes and the end of your shadow.

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The top of a rainbow will always be at an angle of 42 degrees to that

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line, and that is true for each of us individually. What that means is

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that no matter where you are, the rainbow will always go with you. If

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you move, the rainbow moves. We each see our own individual

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rainbows. So we know the theory, let's put it into practice. Perfect

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rainbow conditions are hard to come by, we have got the sun, but we

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With the Sun behind us, instant reign in front, and a bit of

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tweaking, bingo! And it is my personal rainbow, if I move, it

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moves with me. As I moved across, Isn't that beautiful? But there is

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a secret to reveal about the end of the rainbow. Rainbows are actually

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four circles, and usually we only see part of the top half. Why don't

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you see the bottom half? It is because you need the rain to be

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below you, and that rarely happens. It is usually up in the clouds. If

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you point down, you might be able to see the bottom part of the

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rainbow. Just about see it there. It is rare to spot one, but it has

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given me an idea. Could I stand inside a circular rainbow? I will

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need to wrap it up. -- ramp. We have got hosepipes and squirting at

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shin level to get water below me. A thousand watt light is directly

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overhead. I have got a waterproof camera, and I am hopeful. Getting

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Oh, I can see a rainbow! With the light directly above me, my shadow

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is really short, so the 42 degrees brings the Rainbow really close to

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me. That is why you will never find a pot of gold at the end of a

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rainbow, because rainbows don't have an end.

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How can you finish a film on that note? He has shattered my dreams!

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Marty Jopson has got a lot transfer falls -- a lot to answer for.

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film. But an awful ending! lovely! Shall we talk about your

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new single? Let Soham talk about me! We love it, but it is about you

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That his kind of Howard starts, Will, and I have danced with a

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trolley as well, you cannot help but do that spin. It is so much fun.

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That is like Strictly trolley dancing week one, but this is we

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gauge. Here he goes, look at him! It is a thing of beauty! You would

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win a Strictly trolley. Have things got so desperate that you have

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turned to a trolley?! Yes! No, the idea came from talking to Paul, who

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does my hair and make-up, and he was saying, you should do something

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in the supermarket. And I love taking everyday situations in

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videos, you know, trying to make them something that they are not,

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so I play a shopping trolley attendant, and then I fall in love

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with the trolley. There is something about that long trolley

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in the car park, left and discarded. It wants some attention. You must

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have used a lot of pound coins in the video. But then you are

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promoted from trolley boy to checkout. Let's have a look at the

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end of the video. Sorry, that is... �38.73. You have a store card?

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is brilliant! You know what is really fun? I have been doing this

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for 10 years, and what is so much fun, knowing a song is coming out,

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turning it on its head, taking a really normal situation like a

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supermarket, something we all do every day, making it more glamorous

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and fun and exciting. At such a catchy tune. The thing we talked

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about at the beginning that you did not know about, something you have

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never tried before, it is musical theatre. Yes. You did kind of start

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at hoping to achieve that. Well, I did, around the corner, before I

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entered pop idol, I did a musical theatre course in Chiswick, and now

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I am finally doing Cabaret the musical, which starts at the end of

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August, and then we are in the Savoy Theatre from the beginning of

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October, I think, yeah, for four months. Why Cabaret? Why did you

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choose that one? I had been talking to Rufus Norris the director for

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almost three years, it is one of my favourite musicals. I am playing

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the NC. I was saying to you earlier, the songs are amazing, the story is

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amazing, and the party is an incredible part. It is the big part.

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Exactly, so I have started doing... I've worked with Penny in Mrs

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Henderson Presents, I have got to speak with a Berlin accent. It

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sounds really bad at the moment, actually! We cannot stitch him up

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like this! Rufus might change his mind! It is going to be great, and

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you know what is so nice, after this record, it has gone down so

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well, it has been almost a year since I was on with the first

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single, Chelsy, to go and do something different, please come

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and see it! The banks are in the headlines again for all the wrong

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reasons, the Berkeley scandal adding one more black mark to a

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long list of bad behaviour. -- Barclays. Also on the list is the

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lack of money available to small businesses, and as Lucy Siegle has

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been finding out, patience is Mark Landsberg is a businessman. He

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is serious about cars. Let's go.

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This sports car is his pride and joy.

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It is quite some car. Yeah! But now Mark's giving up the

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car of his dreams, for what he hopes will be a short-term farewell

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for a long-term reason, to build his business.

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Mark's about to hand over the keys to his Lamborghini to a total

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stranger. Are you ready? Yeah. Thanks, Mark. We will take good

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care of it. James is a pawnbroker, Mark is

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borrowing �50,000 against the car to give his business the boost it

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needs. The seven month loan could cost him over �17,000 in interest,

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but he needs the money to develop a mobile phone product.

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I have been to the banks, forget it the first bank we went to see, did

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not know what a mobile phone appcation was. �50,000 mass gone

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into it, we need the finished product.

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Why not just sell the car? What?! Why are you so shocked about that

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when you are going to pawn it? Pawning it is like lending it to

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someone, isn't it? You are not getting rid of the car, you are

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just borrowing money against it. He is the -- not the only one

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borrowing against his car for business. According to the

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federation for small businesses, banks are not lending enough to

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small and medium-sized companies. Maybe this is why the pawn brokers

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are reporting a 28% interest increase in business coming to them.

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The interest rates are steep? start at% a month ending up at 9% a

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month, but if you add up the cost that other lenders are asking, it

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is a short-term solution and it is competitive.

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9% is 10le% a year. -- 9% a month is 108% a year.

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Do you feel guilty for doing well in a recession? No, I don't think I

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should feel guilty. We are providing a service. It is a

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valuable service, as I have pointed out we are helping people where

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other doors have been closed in their faces.

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James has tapped into the growing market. People who want to borrow

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cash against assets and he has helped Mark put a price on them.

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This is not what what you find down the local off-licence? No, have one

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of the most valuable cases of wines here. It is probably worth about

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�12,000 for a case of 12. It does not stop there.

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We are seeing here a collection from a customer that needed to

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raise money to support his business. First editions? Yes, Captain Cook

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here. This part of the collection is worth in excess of �500,000. The

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whole collection is worth in excess of �2 million.

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But it is not just those with �2 million worth of books, using the

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pawn brokers. I have watches that I'm interested

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in pawning. Jane is borrowing �3,000 for her business, the banks

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would not loan to her. This could cost her more than �1,000 in

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interest. This is how I started.

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She is in the business of inventing products for babies, but going to

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the bank to get finances for the next idea, a cot blanket. They said

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"no". They did not look at the bigger

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picture, where the product was going. They looked at the figures

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on the paper and said "no". So this was a good option for us as a

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family to use the watches instead of taking out a personal loan of

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our own. So tomorrow, I can push the switch

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on the suingmans at the manufactures to go with a new

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product. The banks say that last year they

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lent small businesses over �7 billion in new loans, despite

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seeing less demand for them. Jane and Mark know the risks involved in

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pawning possessions to finances their businesses. If they fail,

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Mark cowed lose his Lamborghini, and Jane could lose her watches,

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but they feel they have made the right choice.

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There is a risk in anything you do. I believe if you want to succeed in

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life you have to take risks. This is all part of my journey, I

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will look back and think it was definitely worth it.

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Let's hope so. Now, you have lots of stuff you

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could pawn, haven't you? She says so knowingly! Very nothing! Have

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you been in my house? I have a room full of hats and canes, you said?

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have a bamboo book bike. Where did you find that? Zambia!

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You didn't expect that. How did you get that back? They

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sent it, the company that makes the bamboo bikes. I still have not

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assembled it yet. But you have kept stuff from the

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video? I have kept stuff from the video. You see I had a name badge

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that he to wear. You can make a choice which one you

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want. What, we can have them? Yes.

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Well, that is very kind of you. Very generous. You can have two of

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them. We will share them out! That is

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good. Any way, oh, we have been rehearsing this bit. Legendary soul

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singer, Edwin Starr once sang... # War, what is it good for? # Well

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in the music, it is good for one thing, selling records. The early

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1980s, was a time of tension. A domestic recession and

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international unrest. The seen has been described by

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Ronald Reagan as an evil empire. there conscious in the Kremlin?

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Britain had fought another war... massive Argentine in vaigs of the

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Falklands is taking place. -- invasion.

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And Russia and the USA were squaring up over nuclear weapons.

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The threat cast a long shadow, even in popular culture, eeveryone new

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George Orwell's 1984, suddenly it was here. So no surprising that

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this song went to number one, Frankie Goes To Hollywood and Two

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Tribes. T is triebts Two Tribes a protest

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song? It is kind of, but I was not a peace and love hippy.

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It was that this is the state of the world at the moment.

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There was a certain sort of declamatory atmosphere to it.

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Trying to instil the danger of these men who are making thee

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decisions for us. The song got written in a rehearsal

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room. Then the band was just a drummer and a base player and a

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singer which was me. A few of the songs were written like that, just

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with the rim section. So -- with the rythm section. So we

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had very talented a group. There was great practised lycs that

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sounded Russian. It got me thinking that I could make a sound out of

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that. When it was amplyified by a 60-

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piece Orchestra... That was amazing. That this little song that we had

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made with base drums, with a guitar, that we used to have to do twice at

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live gigs because we only had seven songs had become this mammoth,

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amazing production. The thing about Two Tribes, it is a

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hybrid of dance music and rock music.

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There is Assange pect of classical music to it also it is underpinned

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by the classic disco beat. Like their first single, Relax, the

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song had a controversial video, featuring look alikes of the US

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President of The time, Ronald Reagan, wrest -- wrestling with the

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head of the seen. Now, the video of the song is

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amazing. Kevin Godly and Lol Crane had been

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members of 10CC, somebody that I watched on Top of the Pops. Then

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they were directing pop videos. They used the two leaders fighting

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it out in a snake pit. The crowd around them were a United Nations,

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it was the perfect solution. Why have a Cold War and put everyone

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else at risk when you could just fight it out, boys? It was just

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just a brilliant idea. Two Tribes was a phenomenal success.

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It spent nine weeks at the top of the UK chart.

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Frankie Goes To Hollywood became one of the top-selling bands of

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1984. Nearly 30 years on, Two Tribes still packs a punch.

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It's amazing to perform it. The crowd just goes crazy.

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It is the point in the show when it just ramps the whole thing up.

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It ramps it up by 1,000% and people love it.

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I am very proud of the fact that, you know, I instigated that song.

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It is one of them that you can't help singing. I love it.

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Talking of Two Tribes, it is time to pit our Will against one of

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Britain's best Ping-Pong players. Yes it is the extraordinary

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octogenarians in the world. This is not for the faint-hearted.

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I don't want to go home, watch # One more time you hurt me

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# You thought you had your victory. # I don't care how good she is, I

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should get her. She can't move, right? Yes! How about a round of

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applause for three-times Gold Medallist, Terry Donlon! So, Terry,

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we said there you are 83. How old were you when you started playing

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table tennis? I was boxing when I was 21.

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It keeps you young, is that the idea? Yes.

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What does it do for you? I'm 83, going on 41. That is what it does

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for you. To be fair you struggle with your

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health? Yes. Just give us an idea of some of the

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things you have come up against? had TB when I was 14.

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Then he prostate cancer in 1996. Eight months after that, I had a

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different cancer in my kidney, so they took the kidney out. Then I

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went to Turkey, I had an accident. I hit a vertebrae it was out of

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place in my neck, that caused the bone cancer and the lung cancer.

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I have got... Terry, this is what you are still achieving and it

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doesn't end there, you have problems with your lungs as well!

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How do you keep going? The mind. The mind.

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The doctor's advise you to keep playing ping upon? Yes. You see

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that, over the table, I am really dying, but what a better way to go!

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What is your message to people at home who are watching this now?

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hope that they get out of the chair and come and play table tennis it

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is good for the mind and it is good for the body it keeps you fit.

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Forget age, forget the numbers of the age.

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That has nothing to do with it. It is what your body tells you. Good

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lad, Terry. It is time it is time to play Will Young. Here we go,

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ladies and gentlemen. I take no prisoners, Terry! Off you

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