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Hello and welcome. They tried to ban them in France but not over here. We

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are asking why some British parents think it's OK to enter children as

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young as three or four years old into beauty pageants. You can say

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whether you agree or not. Also, we'll be finding out what British

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wrestling legend Big Daddy was we'll be finding out what British

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as a real father. And we we'll be finding out what British

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nervous, as both mine and Matt's mums are here. Hello, mums! Whose

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mum is whose? And a big shout out to all the dads who are at home holding

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the fort. Joining us are two of the nation's favourite performers. It's

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Emma Thompson and Sandi Toksvig. Nice to see you both. A lovely,

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theatrical entrance. And lovely outfits. We've gone for the boot

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thing today. I've gone for the farm look. We've got a mums theme

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tonight. We were wondering what type of mums you are, are you Tiger mums?

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That is a pushy mother. No. All my children are taller than me, so it's

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impossible to tell them what to do. What age did they overtake you?

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About four. I don't know if you've heard about this very difficult

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parenting situation. The Burgesses are a rugby mad family. They are out

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in Australia, four brothers playing rugby league out there. Three of the

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lads have been selected to play for England, so mum, Julie, how on earth

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does she console the brother who hasn't been selected? That

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does she console the brother who going to have a lot more sex. That's

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the only thing I can think of. And probably keep more of his own

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cartilage than his brothers. You've always got to look for the positive.

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Sex and cartilage, what more could always got to look for the positive.

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you want? ! Will be talking about Emma's new book later and Sandi's

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new tour. Now a question for you. They've changed your nappy, kissed

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your knee when you fell over and make sure you studied hard for your

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exams, but what would happen if your make sure you studied hard for your

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mum came to work with you for a week? One British businesses finding

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out. Its boss admits the office doesn't run as smoothly as it could,

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so we suggested he gets some help and test out if really does best. --

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if mum really does know best. This is one of Britain's most

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successful online job site. This is John Sold, the director. He is

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always there when the staff need him, and sometimes when they don't.

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We have about 350 people working here, the core of which are

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salespeople. We have the ad agency, the international sales department.

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Online recruitment is hugely competitive, and John is always

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looking for that little something to stay ahead. We have the graduate

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team here, future talent teams. John feels that total jobs runs like a

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slightly dysfunctional family. And he's got the analogy to prove it.

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When you look at a group of salespeople like this, it's bit like

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a barrel of broken biscuit -- 's kids. They've all got some kind of

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floor in them. They are all slightly damaged goods. At the end of the

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day, a good biscuit is still a good biscuit. This office of broken

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biscuits are about to get the dumping of their lives. John! John

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is setting aside expensive consultants and instead is inviting

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in three of his staff's mums, along with his very own mother-in-law, to

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see if mums can make business sense. We've had to learn to live with each

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other. At times it has been fantastic and at times it has been

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quite stressful. Sheila in three words? Never wrong, ever. We have

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fought bitterly and at times emotionally, write to the end of the

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path and then come all the way back to the beginning again. So could

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this be the worst managerial decision John has ever made? I'd be

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lying if I said I wasn't nervous. People might not get her very unique

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sense of humour. But that is something this New Age businessman

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can live with for the sake of the company. If it makes our people

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happier, I think other customers will want to do more business with

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us. Happy people equals happy customers equals profit. John has

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chosen three key personalities in the office who he thinks would

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profit from a dose of their own mums. I'm really excited to see if

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mum is really know best. Ryan is one of the online sales team leaders. My

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team would describe me as a bit of a slave driver. Quite sharp in the

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things I say. I tend to take the make up of people. When Ryan was

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growing up, he was a complete and utter nightmare because he'd be

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running all over the place, climbing walls, throwing himself off things.

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Taking him out was quite stressful. If my mum was in the office, she

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would be perhaps a much better people person than me. She's just

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very nice. I really enjoy having Ryan around. It's nice to still have

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him at home, even at 27. Jill is customer services director. I can't

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wait for her to come and see where I work, the people I work with. The

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office is quite messy, I would imagine. She can be a messy child.

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My mum has her own career. She's 67 imagine. She can be a messy child.

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but she's working past her retirement. I don't think she's ever

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worked in an office environment before. I like messing with

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computers, that is one of the things I'm really looking forward to. I'm a

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bit of an IT geek. Victoria Works in the future talent team. I don't

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really know what to expect. She gets really stressed with me. If I try to

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give her any advice I usually get, mum, you just don't know! I did say

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to her, I'm entitled to my opinion, I'm your mother. Victoria would

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say, if mum's way or the highway. With the mothers waiting, it's time

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for Mother's Day for Total Jobs. I've got your mother-in-law at

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reception. Coming up... Embarrassing interrogation. I needed to be honest

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and tell the truth. And boss, John, has the tables turned on him in the

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boardroom. Do another one weakness, what you think that is? Erm...

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Sheila and John fought bitterly what you think that is? Erm...

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the end of the path out of work. Later, we'll be seeing what happens

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when they were let loose in the office. And they'll be here later.

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Emma, you've taken your mum, Phyllida Law, to work on many

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occasion. You more productive when she's around or do you feel more

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stressed? We didn't really act in scenes together. Because you are

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sort of on the same level. We are both working for someone. Do you

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find that you practice out of work? We do. We did one film together, we

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did the whole script in the car on the way to work every morning. She

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hated me so much by the end of it. You live across the road from each

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other. That's handy. We open the front door and we can see into each

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other's Kitchens. I'm not sure how healthy it is. I'm beginning to

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think now that I possibly might have to leave home at some point. Maybe

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not. She just lifted finger, she drags herself over the road. Sandi,

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what about your mum? You told us about your dad last time, but what

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about your mum? Reed she is astonishing. She is like a gazelle.

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She's incredible. She has done three separate university degrees. In art

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will stop and in English. She's incredible. I never take her to work

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because mostly I'm sitting writing or doing one-woman shows on stage.

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It would be boring for her. She'd be on a chair beside me. Do you bring

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up a lot and ask for advice? She's always there for me. She's my steady

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rock. We showed you our mums earlier on. Later, we will ask to see

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rock. We showed you our mums earlier whether you can guess which is

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Matt's mum and which is my mum. Have a good look. Any hunch at this

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stage? No, I think you've got a netball team in from the under 21s!

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Last weekend in Bali, Miss Philippines, Megan Young, one the

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most famous beauty contest on the planet, Miss World. She was

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reluctant to receive the crown. She said, it's not about me, it's about

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making a difference to my country and the world. Nice sentiment. At

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the same time, kids as young as nine weeks old were getting ready for a

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much smaller, home-grown competition in Chester. Many feel uneasy about

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beauty pageants were under 16s, and the French government are trying to

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ban them. We sent young mum Haley to find out what it takes to become a

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junior beauty queen. Preparations are under way to address this hotel

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conference room in time for a stampede of excited children.

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Today, little girls and even some boys are going to be competing

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against each other and strutting their stuff on this very catwalk, in

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the hope of being crowned a winner. Pageants have been huge in the

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States and are now increasingly popular here. The organisers told us

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that at this event alone, there are over 100 people. There are also

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multiple categories, so that every child gets a prize. I've come to

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meet the Adlington family from Liverpool and their five children,

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who are going to be competing today to see who is the cutest. We've done

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who are going to be competing today around ten or 11 pageants so far.

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who are going to be competing today About one a month. Is that a lot of

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trouble and expense? It's been quite expensive. We probably spent around

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£5,000 so far this year. That was expensive. We probably spent around

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our savings, but it's the kind of thing we would save up for a

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holiday. There's lots of criticism about putting make-up on children's

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putt faces, dressing them up, what do you say to those people? If

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children take part in ballet board do you say to those people? If

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disco dancing, any of those things, children will wear make-up. It's no

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different than any dance competition. And the confidence that

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it's given our children... Willow has always been painfully shy. Since

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we've done pageants, she's really come out of her shell. Jasmin has

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had issues about her weight. Since she's been doing pageants, she's

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really come into her own. You are being judged by the judges but they

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don't judge you on what you look like. At the last pageant I came

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first. I was most definitely the biggest girl in the group. So maybe

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it can be good for their self-esteem. These children will be

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schooled on their stage presence, personal appearance and overall

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impression, by a panel of reigning beauty queens, who will also take

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account of their age. I've never been to one of these before, so I'm

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not sure what to expect. I'm not quite sure how I feel about it,

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we'll have to wait and see. I think they are quite young to be

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dancing the way they are doing. They don't realise it but I do, it makes

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me feel a bit uncomfortable. The majority of their outfits are pretty

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clean cut, but I have seen a Pamela Anderson, a Dolly Parton and a

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clean cut, but I have seen a Pamela Madonna. I'm keen to know if these

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parents have concerns about putting their kids on the catwalk at such an

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early age. They are not hurting anyone. It is something that most of

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the children enjoy, I can't say all of them. She got spray tanned

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yesterday, she likes it. The mum of this little girl thinks her daughter

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likes a spray tan, and maybe she does, but is that the point? I

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couldn't help wondering if kids so young should be getting this kind of

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beauty treatment. This is about looks. Do you see that as a problem?

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Nope. I think it's a good thing. I know she's beautiful and she knows

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she's beautiful. She might as well be competing. Do you ever feel, oh,

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my little girl is growing up? I think it's the opposite. I think it

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keeps them young, they are dressing up as princesses. More than pop

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stars who look older than they are. I didn't realise just how young some

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of the princesses could be. You must be Jessica. Who is this? Ella is one

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of the youngest pageant agents. She's weeks old. You entered her

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even before she was born. Why did you do that? Because there was a

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even before she was born. Why did category, I thought I'd see how she

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got on with it. How does it work with the babies? I believe it is

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judged on cuteness. There is definitely a little girl

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inside of me who would have loved to have had her hair done, where those

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frocks and some of the kids in their were really happy. But there's also

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a parent inside of me now. So is it tasteless or harmless fun? I don't

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think it's my thing. But I can't deny that both the parents and the

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think it's my thing. But I can't children here have had a pretty good

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time. Some interesting vibes coming from the mothers in the studio.

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Angellica is here. The French government have said they are trying

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to ban these contests. Strange feelings going through me seeing

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that film but what is their argument? They wanted to get rid of

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pageants for under 16-year-olds in France and that came about in 2010,

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following a report on hyper sexualisation of children. The

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French Senate voted on a law not sexualisation of children. The

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only to ban those pageants but also adult style clothing for youngsters.

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That has gone through, it has been approved but it has not been passed

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by the National Assembly. Hopefully that will be done this year. In the

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pageant we saw, there was lots of emphasis on the make up and the Hare

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and the false lashes, are they all like that? All pageants are not like

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the one we have seen, they all differ. We have spoken to

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organisations who say they do not allow make up on the children at

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all, they say it does not add anything. They also say that they

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marked down children if they are wearing make up. It is a

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case-by-case thing. No one would deny that kids like to dress up. But

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I think the thing that is uncomfortable with me is the

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competitive element. You have a statement on that. It is difficult

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when you have your own children. We have spoken to the organiser of Mr

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and Miss Natural Sparkle who say these conditions are no different to

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cheerleading competitions. They are different, dancing and cheerleading

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is after you have put the make up on, there is a point to learning how

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to dance or cheerlead. Having make up on and being told you are being

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judged on how you look, really, it seems to me a curious idea of how to

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value themselves. They say the pageant is about talent and not

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about how the child looks, it is about the full package. The

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organisers are not here to defend themselves. I wouldn't be where I am

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today if it wasn't for the beauty pageant. That is why we have got you

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on as a guest. Another argument is that it does build confidence and

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the children will have something to aim for. I am not crazy about rating

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children on attractiveness, I think all children have some beauty in

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them and I don't care for it. I remember doing ballet competitions,

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displays, and I do remember wearing make up. I used to put it on

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myself, it was alarming. That was all right.

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We want to know what you think about this in our One Show vote. Remember,

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it is not in any way scientific, it is more like a flavour of what you

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are thinking at home. As the French government are in the process of

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banning beauty pageants for children, we are asking this simple

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question. Should we ban beauty pageants fundus extremes? -- beauty

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pageants for under 16 's? Although tonight's show has more

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month than you can shake a stick at, we still made room for one important

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daddy. A lot of room for a very big one.

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My stepdad was Shirley Crabtree, Big Daddy the wrestler, he was a Big

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Daddy to everybody. He was loving, caring, cuddly, incredibly handsome.

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He did get vote -- voted sex symbol for the over 80s and he was howling

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at that! To me, he just looks like this huge giant when I was growing

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up. I used to put my arms around him like this and eventually, one day, I

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think because I was getting older, I eventually touched and we were like,

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yes! I was about two-year 's old when my mum and dad got together. We

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grew up in Millbank. Uncle Max was a promoter, uncle Brian was a referee.

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They are all in the wrestling game together. A lot of people thought

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rattling was a fix. At the end of the day it was entertainment. But

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the more entertaining the wrestler, the more you remember them. When dad

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had his first leotard made it was from is the Sethi covers and I can

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still see that image -- the sofa covers. There was a time when I was

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bullied at one point, you think you a hard because you are Big Daddy's

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daughter. That was not the case. My cousin stepped in and made sure I

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was OK. You're a member when we were mascots? We had the costumes

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especially made. -- do you remember? Whenever there were family

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interviews, dad like to have them at the farm. It goes back generations.

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interviews, dad like to have them at You were a wrestler as well.

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Unfortunately, yes. I had to keep it in the family but I didn't last too

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long because it was too heavy work for me. This is where we lived in

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the heart of the village. We didn't have the fields and the acres that

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dad's brothers had but he was happy with his little backyard. He was

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never bothered about material possessions, he was happy to walk

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about in his tracksuit. He wasn't very money orientated so we rented

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the house. One time we won holiday in Monte Carlo, he was offered to

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buy an apartment for next door to Orson Welles for £8,000, imagine how

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much that would be worth today. Dad used to come out of the house, go

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into his gym, do his training with a 16 stone dummy. We always knew he

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was up there because the whole house would shake. Part of his training

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regime was going to the gym, coming down and sitting in a freezing cold

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paddling pool. The more famous he got, his paddling pools got ago. My

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dad had a very clean cut lifestyle -- paddling pools got bigger. It was

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like a Bonnie and Clyde relationship. My mum was quite a

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character in the village to say the least. I don't used always say to

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me, are Jane, if we didn't have each other, we would have no sanity. I

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always treasure that. One night when dad came home, he had

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had a bang on the head in the ring. From that night on, you know your

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own father 100% and I knew from that night, things went downhill from

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there unfortunately. I got the phone call when I was at work saying that

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he had had the biggest of all strokes and he had to be carried out

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of the house by the fire brigade, because he was paralysed down one

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side. I remember rushing to the hospital and there we were. His

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first words were, it is my Powell. -- it is my friend. When he died a

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lot of possessions were auctioned for charity. He had this wrestling

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belt made to commemorate the thing he had achieved. One quote that sums

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him up these people have given me more love than any human being is

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entitled to and for that I am truly dreadful. That says it all about my

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dad. Big Daddy... We are laughing, it is

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amazing that his first outfit was made from the sofa cover. I just

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floated the idea of a lime green mankini.

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You were saying in the film that you met Big Daddy, was he a gentle

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giant? People talk about larger-than-life and all those

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expressions but he was just charming. He knew what he was doing,

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it was part of show business. Let's talk about your father, Eric

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Thompson, who we know from the medical runabout stories who -- The

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Magic Roundabout stories which he narrated. Was it a big deal, growing

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up in the world of children's literature? Not really, actually. We

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were quite sniffy about it, oh, yeah, dad. He wrote the stories in

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front of a little machine that he worked with his feet. They were made

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by a Frenchman and dad was a complete Francophone, he hated the

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French. They thought he had called Dougal after Charles de Gaulle.

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There was antagonism about these puppet films that had been destroyed

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by this route Englishman who did not write for children ever. He got

:26:26.:26:33.

letters saying that my mother has told me off for calling my sister a

:26:33.:26:38.

mollusc, and having to write back to say it is not a rude word. You have

:26:39.:26:45.

written the Christmas tale of Peter Rabbit. It is so distressing when

:26:45.:26:57.

the C word comes up in October. Is it right that this was inspired by a

:26:57.:27:01.

trip to one of Beatrix Potter's Farms. Yes, she was so

:27:01.:27:04.

extraordinary. We think of her Farms. Yes, she was so

:27:04.:27:08.

perhaps only in relation to the books that she wrote but she was a

:27:08.:27:12.

conservationist. She really was responsible for starting the

:27:12.:27:15.

National trust. She used all the money from those books, she bought

:27:15.:27:19.

these dutiful places. She never actually lived on that farm. She

:27:19.:27:29.

lived at Hilltop. I went up there to do a bit of investigation and I met

:27:29.:27:37.

a turkey. Of remarkable personality. Which you capture Berry well in this

:27:38.:27:45.

book. -- very well in this book. Thank you. Larger-than-life

:27:45.:27:48.

creature, very interesting, determines to be in show business,

:27:48.:27:56.

clearly. It has taken two of us to even sniff at the coat-tails of this

:27:56.:28:00.

genius, all our efforts and years of work to get anywhere near it. He

:28:00.:28:06.

needs Benjamin and Peter -- he meets Benjamin and Peter. He is under the

:28:06.:28:10.

false illusion that he has been asked to dinner as a guest rather

:28:10.:28:20.

than the main course. It is lovely, how the tale of Peter Rabbit came

:28:20.:28:25.

about in book form. It was letters that Beatrix Potter wrote. She had

:28:25.:28:30.

tough, controlling parents. When she was 17, she was accorded a companion

:28:30.:28:37.

called Annie Carter who married, left, probably breaking her heart.

:28:37.:28:44.

And had 1 million children. The first child was called Noel, and he

:28:44.:28:54.

got ill. It is basically the tale of Peter Rabbit. With all the pictures

:28:54.:29:01.

and the writing. It is exquisite. Most of her books were written as

:29:01.:29:03.

and the writing. It is exquisite. letters to children. I think because

:29:03.:29:08.

she was ill when she was a young person as well, she had a real feel

:29:08.:29:12.

for children who were ill, and the way in which she spoke to them

:29:12.:29:19.

wasn't at all patronising. It was very direct and often quite dark. In

:29:19.:29:24.

this case, nine years before the letters were turned into a book and

:29:24.:29:28.

we have the most pitiful artwork. This is original -- the most

:29:28.:29:35.

beautiful artwork. This is original artwork. It is her 111th birthday

:29:35.:29:42.

today. These beautiful watercolours. You can sense the love and the story

:29:42.:29:47.

works so well with the pictures. How are you work with the illustrator?

:29:47.:29:57.

-- how do you work? I write the story and I send it to her. I know

:29:57.:29:59.

-- how do you work? I write the she is such a good illustrator and

:29:59.:30:04.

very good at the animals thinking. Beatrix Potter never has animals

:30:04.:30:08.

doing smiley faces or sad faces, they always look like animals. They

:30:08.:30:11.

are not quite normal because they are wearing clogs but that is the

:30:11.:30:14.

are not quite normal because they only reason, she is very specific.

:30:14.:30:16.

Eleanor does the same thing but I only reason, she is very specific.

:30:16.:30:20.

write things that I know she will enjoy making pictures of because she

:30:20.:30:25.

is such a wonderful illustrator. I wonder how long she would take to

:30:25.:30:30.

paint these pictures. Presumably not long because she didn't know how

:30:30.:30:38.

iconic they would become? All She said the ones that were quick and

:30:38.:30:41.

spontaneous made her happiest. But she does complain later on, when the

:30:41.:30:47.

books had become successful, because she was self published at first, but

:30:47.:30:51.

when they did become successful she became quite, oh, I've got to do

:30:51.:30:55.

another book. And the illustrations were the part that really took the

:30:55.:31:02.

time and were quite hard for her. It changed as she got more successful.

:31:02.:31:08.

The book is out tomorrow. You've got to get them sold. Indeed,

:31:08.:31:16.

absolutely. I'm trying to get everyone in the mood! I want to see

:31:16.:31:26.

what happens at the end. Worrying about the turkey. It's time to

:31:26.:31:31.

return to our new series. One British business is finding out what

:31:31.:31:34.

happens when you bring mothers into the workplace. Website boss John has

:31:34.:31:43.

shunned business consultant in favour of bringing in the mums of

:31:43.:31:47.

three staff members. Much to the amusement of their fellow workers.

:31:47.:31:55.

This is my team and my desk. It's a giant leap forward for mums. The

:31:55.:31:58.

This is my team and my desk. It's a first time they've seen their kids

:31:58.:32:04.

at work. You hear about people bringing their kids into work, mums

:32:04.:32:10.

are quite a different thing to do. This sums you up. Rune I'm only here

:32:10.:32:20.

to look at what you are doing. It will be interesting to get their

:32:20.:32:25.

perspective on things. And really impressed with how tidy your desk

:32:25.:32:32.

is. The boss has appointed his own mother-in-law, Sheila, to spearhead

:32:32.:32:36.

his workplace campaign. And they are both determined not to have a

:32:36.:32:41.

crossword. Why have you never said you work in an area like this? It's

:32:41.:32:48.

just an office. But it's huge. I always imagined you being very small

:32:48.:32:59.

and compact. Sorry! Sheila seems to have abandoned the softly softly

:32:59.:33:00.

approach. Are these all labelled as have abandoned the softly softly

:33:00.:33:08.

Jamaat They probably could do with a clean out. You need to be better

:33:08.:33:13.

organised. Are now on the prowl, protecting their young? Not a bit of

:33:13.:33:19.

it. With clipboards at the ready, they want unsparing detail. I need

:33:19.:33:25.

you to be honest. Does she speak nicely? Some certain phrases are

:33:25.:33:33.

interesting. The majority is nice. That's nice, sort of. Is there

:33:33.:33:39.

anything you could tell me about her antics? We always hear her hangover

:33:39.:33:44.

stories about sleeping on the bathroom tiles. Isn't it great to

:33:44.:33:49.

have friends? How does he let his hair down? He hasn't got any hair.

:33:49.:33:55.

How punctual is Victoria in the morning? Come on, some dirt on her.

:33:55.:33:58.

Now there's time for home truths. Do morning? Come on, some dirt on her.

:33:58.:34:10.

you think Ryan is attractive? No. You can always trust your mother!

:34:10.:34:13.

They do a sweep of the office to gather more information. I felt that

:34:13.:34:20.

the staff looked as -- us as if we had ten heads, because they saw

:34:20.:34:24.

nothing wrong. Sheila waste no time in calling a meeting. Kindly, she

:34:24.:34:30.

invites John into his own boardroom. Your number one weakness on the shop

:34:30.:34:34.

floor, what do you think that is? Well, I probably would have a it's

:34:34.:34:42.

something to do with tidiness around the desks or something to do with

:34:42.:34:49.

the kitchen. She and the other mums are serious about making the company

:34:49.:34:52.

a better place to work. The first step of many relates to the overall

:34:52.:34:58.

impression. The desks, food is just left around. A lot of untidiness.

:34:58.:35:02.

There's a lot of medication. If everyone really poorly that works

:35:02.:35:06.

here as Jamaat A couple of desks, hello? It needs a blitz. We are

:35:06.:35:15.

going to change your habits of a lifetime. But it's only five minutes

:35:15.:35:20.

before the office closes. Oh, my lord! The pool of people we did

:35:20.:35:25.

approach, I felt for them. It's medication. You need to have your

:35:25.:35:34.

headache pills, sorry. For the mums, a clean desk and tidy draws the

:35:34.:35:39.

building blocks for a successful business. I've got tins of baked

:35:39.:35:43.

beans I've had in here for about a year. Although the first policy is

:35:43.:35:49.

universally popular. It's kind of like my mum cleaning my room again.

:35:49.:35:52.

I know where everything is, don't touch it, don't move it. They are

:35:52.:35:57.

going to up their game. Oh, dear, come on! I bought them and then

:35:57.:36:06.

realised I didn't have a tin opener. Look! There's more beans. We have

:36:06.:36:15.

initiated the tidy desk policy and are now going to issue drums of

:36:15.:36:21.

whites. Victory. It might seem small but for the mums, this is their

:36:21.:36:27.

Trafalgar... With wet wipes. Next week, they face up to the truth of

:36:27.:36:34.

their kids' behaviour at work. Sheila's bid to transform the office

:36:35.:36:39.

gathers pace. The thing that really comes home to me as I walk through

:36:39.:36:44.

if the deportment. And will this unique team of consultants really

:36:44.:36:47.

managed to bring some mum sense to this office?

:36:47.:36:54.

There's a whole series there. Sheila and John are here now, they are

:36:54.:37:00.

still speaking. They will be on next and John are here now, they are

:37:00.:37:06.

Wednesday's show again. This has been trialled at Google in the US.

:37:06.:37:12.

Having had a small experience of it, would it work over here? Should it

:37:12.:37:18.

be rolled out across the country? I think so. I was a bit nervous about

:37:18.:37:22.

having my mother-in-law at work, I see enough of her outside of work.

:37:22.:37:28.

More than enough. I do think it helps when people go into somebody's

:37:28.:37:32.

workplace, maybe like here today, they get a sense of what they do,

:37:32.:37:36.

how they do it and who they do it with, so it makes communication

:37:37.:37:40.

easier from that point of view. But having people come in with a lot of

:37:40.:37:43.

life experience, giving us a different view on the office was

:37:43.:37:46.

really refreshing. That's the point. There was a lot of focus on

:37:46.:37:51.

tidying up, but lots of our viewers would agree there is at an enormous

:37:51.:37:54.

amount of experience and wisdom there when you reach retirement age.

:37:54.:37:58.

Even though you are still involved in business, Sheila, was that the

:37:58.:38:04.

feeling amongst the mums there? His team are so young, the office is so

:38:04.:38:13.

vibrant and it's great fun, a wonderful atmosphere. But the

:38:13.:38:17.

serious business, obviously they are doing it daily and so used to it.

:38:17.:38:21.

But for us coming in and looking at them, it was just... We were

:38:21.:38:28.

shell-shocked. So how different is John at work to what you see at

:38:28.:38:34.

home? Totally different. Did your estimation go up? Huge esteem, I've

:38:34.:38:43.

had a quiet word with him. You simply don't know what they do.

:38:43.:38:49.

These people invade your life, you have to put up with them, you have

:38:49.:38:56.

to learn to love them. And then I had an opportunity, I really have

:38:56.:39:01.

loved every minute of it. The opportunity to go and see what he

:39:01.:39:04.

does. I've never really spoken to you about your work. I've never

:39:04.:39:10.

really wanted you to. There's not just a quiet understanding. I love

:39:11.:39:14.

the way you referred to your staff is broken biscuits, so we've got you

:39:14.:39:18.

a little treaty, a barrel of broken biscuits. Thanks for coming in.

:39:18.:39:28.

Earlier, we told you that our mums are in the audience. We'd like you

:39:28.:39:32.

to try and guess who is Matt's mum and who is my mum. Which one do you

:39:32.:39:38.

think is Matthew's mother? Can I go up and go over? She's a sheep

:39:38.:39:52.

farmer. She keeps miniature donkeys. She breathes them. She must

:39:52.:39:57.

farmer. She keeps miniature donkeys. wide hips!

:39:57.:40:05.

Put Sandi out of her misery. Janice, step forward and put Sandi

:40:05.:40:18.

out of her misery. Janice, we had lots of complaints

:40:18.:40:28.

about your clothes and your elbow patches. Lots of complaints? What do

:40:28.:40:35.

you think of his outfit this evening? I think it's OK. I don't

:40:35.:40:41.

know whether lilac is my favourite colour. Even my mum is complaining

:40:41.:40:48.

now! Do you want a quick guess at Alex's mum? I think I have a notion.

:40:48.:41:01.

We are quite similar. Is it Barbara? It's not Barbara. It's you, Mary.

:41:01.:41:15.

Mary, you've been in a few times, what would you say Alex is different

:41:15.:41:22.

at work than she is at home? No, she's exactly the same but a lot

:41:22.:41:27.

funnier. Please don't tell me she spends as long at home getting ready

:41:27.:41:32.

she does here. Thanks to everyone for coming in.

:41:32.:41:41.

I'm quite nervous with my mother here. I don't know why. You are

:41:41.:41:52.

doing really well. Do you want her to sit with you, darling? Last week,

:41:52.:42:00.

Waltham Forest Council in London was the first to prosecute two men for

:42:00.:42:04.

spitting in public. Manners, be they good or bad, is subject close to

:42:04.:42:10.

Sandi's heart. She has written a book about it. We went out on the

:42:10.:42:14.

streets of Birmingham to see what he could get away with. I'm in a cafe,

:42:14.:42:18.

I'm going to get some lunch. Robbery just soup and a copy. Soup and a

:42:18.:42:24.

copy, please. I love soup. Hang on a minute. There are few things quite

:42:24.:42:29.

so irritating is bad manners. But if we feel so strongly about it, then

:42:29.:42:32.

why do so many others just suffer in silence? I know, it's mad, isn't it?

:42:32.:42:39.

Do you show your displeasure? No, typical British. I just talked. Are

:42:39.:42:46.

we really such a pushover? I couldn't just walk to the front of

:42:46.:42:53.

this queue, could I? Can I get these? Not a word! If you are

:42:53.:42:57.

this queue, could I? Can I get British you should know how to

:42:57.:43:05.

queue. That was too easy. Litter is the biggest one, people just

:43:05.:43:12.

dropping litter. I don't understand why, whether it is just being born

:43:12.:43:17.

idle whether they just don't care about the environment or don't care

:43:17.:43:24.

about other people. Attempt two. Still nothing! Nobody opens the door

:43:24.:43:32.

for ladies. You have got your pram and trying to get through a door. A

:43:32.:43:39.

lot of people ignore you. And when you are in the middle of prayers and

:43:39.:43:43.

a mobile phone goes off, that is the height of bad manners. That is

:43:43.:43:46.

a mobile phone goes off, that is the probably me, to be honest. This

:43:46.:43:49.

short queue should be no problem. Hold on. No, I was standing there

:43:50.:44:01.

and you walked in front of me. Sorry, OK. Do you always challenge

:44:01.:44:07.

people who pushed in? Most of the time. What reaction do you get?

:44:07.:44:17.

Usually apologise. Well done for confronting the queue jumping. I'd

:44:17.:44:23.

get angry but wouldn't say anything. The boat has closed so please do not

:44:24.:44:28.

text because you will still be charged. You've written the whole

:44:28.:44:33.

book about this. It's very sad that it's come to this. I don't think the

:44:33.:44:44.

world has gone to hell in a handcart. I think manners change.

:44:44.:44:51.

When you are child you did not eat things with your fingers and now

:44:51.:44:53.

lots of things are eaten with fingers. I thought it was good to

:44:53.:44:57.

have a look at why we do things. Some of the earliest writing of all

:44:57.:45:03.

time is about manners, the Egyptians wrote about table manners. They

:45:03.:45:08.

wonderful eight-year-old friend of mine called Mary, I told her to take

:45:08.:45:11.

her elbows off the table and she said, why? I thought, I had better

:45:11.:45:19.

find out. It is interesting, things have not changed very much. The

:45:19.:45:23.

thing about people spitting in the street, mostly we don't like other

:45:23.:45:27.

people's moistness, that is the street, mostly we don't like other

:45:27.:45:31.

truth of it. I am not going to go through the list, it is quite long.

:45:32.:45:37.

For example, if I was to serve soup and I had bought a brand-new

:45:37.:45:45.

lavatory brush, you still would not want me to stir the soup with the

:45:45.:45:49.

lavatory brush. Because you don't want to think about the chain of

:45:49.:45:57.

motion. It is sort of a history of manners. It is beautifully

:45:57.:46:04.

structured as well. Matt was saying that it is brilliant because you can

:46:04.:46:08.

check what situation you are going to be in, then you can see how you

:46:08.:46:13.

should behave. There is a big chapter about Twitter and social

:46:13.:46:18.

media and because they are quite new, people don't know where the

:46:18.:46:21.

line is as far as manners are concerned. It is kind of the wild

:46:21.:46:27.

West of manners and there have been some appalling bad manners. I am a

:46:27.:46:36.

geek about computers but I think the easiest way to get rid of trolling

:46:36.:46:41.

is to stop people being able to comment anonymously. You can say

:46:41.:46:45.

what you like but say it as yourself. Don't hide behind some

:46:45.:46:51.

name that is not your own. Be brave, stand up and say, I think we should

:46:51.:46:54.

do this terrible thing, then we all know who said it. I think that is

:46:55.:47:00.

coming, think it will change, we should not just be the ones to say

:47:00.:47:04.

it is terrible. You are about to go on tour, My Valentine, you talk

:47:04.:47:09.

about manners and all sorts of things. Starting in Chichester. What

:47:09.:47:16.

is the flavour of the show? It is a two-hour show and my ambition is

:47:16.:47:19.

that the audience feels better when they leave them when they arrive. We

:47:19.:47:25.

laugh a lot, there is music. Both Emma and I are in our anecdotage, we

:47:25.:47:34.

tell anecdotes. I spend a lot of time on the radio, it is a chance to

:47:34.:47:40.

get out and do the live thing. It is where Emma and I started. It is a

:47:40.:47:45.

nice thing to flex that muscle again. We found this lovely picture

:47:45.:47:53.

of you both. Do you remember it? Have we got it? Oh, my word. Woman's

:47:53.:48:05.

hour. My collar up does not look good. You or your collar up a lot

:48:05.:48:17.

then! I look like Himmler! I thought that at the time! We did the first

:48:17.:48:27.

and probably only all-female review. And you were reviewed for it, and we

:48:27.:48:32.

have that as well. It said that both of you set out to prove that women

:48:32.:48:37.

cannot only be funny but also write funny material. We are glad we

:48:37.:48:44.

cleared that up! Sandi Toksvig was a little too much mocked Alan Whicker

:48:44.:48:51.

all the way through. What an extraordinary comment! Was at the

:48:51.:48:59.

moustache I wore? It obviously hasn't scarred you coming you don't

:48:59.:49:04.

remember it. I don't, you should never read your reviews, good or

:49:04.:49:13.

bad. We were the only revue to make money. I was bowled the second time

:49:13.:49:16.

we did it. -- I was my flatmates said, you looked just

:49:16.:49:37.

like Nefertiti with no hair. At which point they decided to pin me

:49:37.:49:45.

down and shave my head. I spent the first night! BaldSandi, your tour

:49:45.:49:55.

starts on the 5th of October in Chichester.

:49:55.:50:05.

One tree's leaves have been turning brown for a very different reason.

:50:05.:50:14.

The horse chestnut tree. Its fruit, conkers, have delighted children for

:50:14.:50:19.

generation. The first recorded conquer game was played on the Isle

:50:19.:50:24.

of Wight in 1848. These magnificent giants are as iconic as the game

:50:24.:50:28.

they created. Now it seems the horse chestnut is falling out of favour

:50:28.:50:31.

and that is because it is losing its looks. Popular in Victorian times,

:50:32.:50:39.

the horse chestnut's white or red blooms, also known as candles, were

:50:39.:50:44.

a regular feature of parks, gardens and newly built residential avenues.

:50:44.:50:49.

It was a Victorian pastime to promenading down horse chestnut

:50:49.:50:55.

walks and admire their beauty. Look around any parks today and you will

:50:55.:51:02.

find Brown, unsightly leaves. Horse chestnuts are under attack and the

:51:02.:51:06.

majority of the 2 million trees in the UK are infested. If you are

:51:06.:51:10.

wondering what makes the horse chestnuts turn ugly, it is this. A

:51:11.:51:16.

tiny caterpillar from an invasive moth called the horse chestnut leaf

:51:16.:51:22.

miner. It arrived on British shores in 2002 and has been spreading

:51:22.:51:26.

throughout the UK at about 25 miles a year ever since. This doctor is an

:51:26.:51:32.

expert on the leaf miner and its cycle. The adults emerge, they lay

:51:32.:51:38.

their eggs on the leaf and produce tiny caterpillars which burrow into

:51:38.:51:44.

the leaf. They eat all the green tissue from the leaf and produce

:51:44.:51:49.

these leaf minds. There are about 30 or 40 different caterpillars just on

:51:49.:51:53.

this one leaf. How much damage does it cause the tree? Because the

:51:53.:51:58.

caterpillars are eating all the green material, which is how the

:51:58.:52:01.

caterpillars are eating all the plant photosynthesise is, it means

:52:01.:52:08.

it can't photosynthesise as much. It means the conkers are smaller, only

:52:08.:52:11.

half the size they would be. It seems like it weakens the trees and

:52:11.:52:16.

makes them more susceptible to other diseases. Despite their ubiquity,

:52:16.:52:22.

the leaf miner's progress through the leaves has never been filmed

:52:22.:52:28.

before. The One Show has set up a time-lapse camera to capture the

:52:28.:52:33.

microscopic invader in action. We have placed a young horse chestnut

:52:33.:52:37.

tree infested with a moth in an isolated room. Our cameras are time

:52:37.:52:40.

tree infested with a moth in an to activate every ten minutes and

:52:40.:52:45.

they reveal the leaf miner's every move. Over the course of a month,

:52:45.:52:49.

the small holes where the eggs have been laid develop into distinctive

:52:49.:52:58.

bubble-like lines. The bubble gets bigger as it up you paid

:52:58.:53:05.

aside from brown leaves, what does it mean for the tree's future?

:53:05.:53:13.

Nobody is replanting horse chestnut trees because they look so scrappy.

:53:13.:53:16.

The nursery sales of horse chestnut trees because they look so scrappy.

:53:16.:53:20.

saplings has reduced by 97% in the last decade. It is a tree that is

:53:20.:53:25.

disappearing fast. The prognosis is bleak. Horse chestnuts could be at

:53:25.:53:31.

risk from vanishing altogether but there is a potential saviour. A

:53:31.:53:35.

native hero defending British territory against attack. The blue

:53:35.:53:36.

tipped. -- blue tipped. We remember how they passed on the

:53:36.:53:48.

rewarding feeding baby to their young. A new bluetit eating habits

:53:48.:53:56.

might save the horse chestnut. I am hoping to spot one in action. There

:53:56.:54:04.

we go, bluetits. Of course, they are voracious eaters of caterpillars.

:54:04.:54:08.

There are tens of thousands of caterpillars, if not more, on this

:54:08.:54:12.

single tree. If you look at the leaf close-up you can see where the

:54:12.:54:17.

bluetits have got their beaks in and peeled off the tops of the leaf

:54:17.:54:22.

minds. If this feeding behaviour were passed on to future

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generations, bluetits could yet be viable pest control and our beloved

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conker game could be saved yet. The bluetits are the heroes of the

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leaves and we hear that your father is a fan of conkers. He was

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constantly lamenting the death of these games and the things he did

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when they were young. He said, we used to use these and now we are on

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Twitter! Matt has the people to give him a few good tips. Nobody knows

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more about conkers than this gentleman, the current world

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conquered champion -- world conker champion. And former ladies

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champion, Jayne Coddington, welcome to you both. Were you both playing

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conkers in the schoolyard? And you have played every year since? No.

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When did you find the love again? 2008, when I won the world

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Championships. At your first 2008, when I won the world

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attempt, how is it possible? It is quite clever, really! It is about

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how you hit them. And selecting the conquer itself? -- the conker

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itself? You just get a string. The referee hands you a sack, you draw a

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conker, if you are happy with it, you play with it. This one is the

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2005 winning conker, it has just got a slight crack. How many

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competitions do you have to go through? You get a new one each

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round but that was the winning one in the final. This is all news to

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me, it is compensated. Give us a World Championships Mac. That is a

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stinker, it got me on the knuckle! -- a World Championship smack. That

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is a stinger. This year, men and women compete together? For the

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first time since 1965. O! You need to get you are in! -- your ie in.

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That is it, we have lost Matt to the world of conkers. We asked you if

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you think you should -- we should world of conkers. We asked you if

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ban beauty pageants for children. This is not scientific in any shape

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or form. Do you have the results? She was adamant and she loves

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dancing. This has happened in all of the country in lots of different

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sports and hobbies. Nick Warren says having worked with primary school

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children, I can say that with personal conviction that beauty

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school pageants and the light cause confusion and problems for these

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children growing up, they are not bonsai adults. This one says, my

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four-year-old is currently crawling about the floor pretending to be a

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talking cat who has a favourite food of fish from the pond. This is what

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talking cat who has a favourite food children should be doing, not being

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plastered in make-up amp or in skimpy outfits. It will be

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interesting to see what we can do and if we follow suit. Thank you to

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all of The One Show mums for coming in! They all look so nice. I just

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said thanks to my mum for journeying from Wales. You are not from Wales!

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