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with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones. You can say what you want about our

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first guest tonight but this year she's celebrating 25 years since she

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gave up her job as a hairdresser to become an international pop star.

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And as for our second guest, having played Moll Flanders it was

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inevitable she would get off with the Doctor. Please welcome Sharleen

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Spiteri and Alex Kingston! A very good evening. Somebody scripted that

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for me Alex, I would never have put it that way, but we did see you

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kissing Matt Smith, quite the treat. Were you surprised by his

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announcement that he was going to leave after the end of this one?

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wasn't surprised as we had a chat about the potential. How long about

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was that? ? I'm not going to say. I don't want to spoil it. At some

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stage you have to move on and we did discuss when would be the right time

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in a young actor's career if they were very associated with a

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particular role. You have to move on, otherwise it becomes very

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difficult, because you get typecast. Who would you like to see moving in?

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I don't know. They say it might be a woman, you see. Dame Helen Mirren

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has been mentioned. I don't think I could kiss her though.

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LAUGHTER Well... There is always a first time. I thought, are you going

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to be the doctor? A few years ago there was chat about that but she is

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married to him, essentially. lots of weird morphing stuff goes

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on, so you never know. And how did your audition go? Let's not star. I

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can't mention. Tonight we've got someone you are fans of and she will

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be winning more fans with The White Queen on BBC One. He asked me to lie

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with him and I refused, and if he dies, I will regret that forever. I

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regret it now. You are a girl from a House of Lancaster and you live in a

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country that's divided. You may not fall in love with a York King unless

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there is profit in it for you. writer and actress Philippa Gregory.

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Hi Philippa. We know that The White Queen is going to be a massive hit,

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ten hours of it on BBC One. We can't wait. Are you happy with the way it

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has gone so far from what you've seen? I'm delighted. I've seen it

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all. Well, the sample of it there, you've got these fantastically

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strong women characters, an amazing period of English history. Although

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we know of it we don't know a lot about it in detail. This visually

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beautiful very cinematic television series. We will discuss it at length

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as the evening progresses. And we be testing your historical knowledge,

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all three of you. This is tough, this. We are going to ask you to

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guess the famous face from the tights that person is wearing. Like

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that! We've been playing this afternoon. I think I know who that

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is. You do? Hold that thought. With the opening of the new Mary Rose

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Museum and the discovery of 4,000-year-old log boats near

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Peterborough wrecks are making a resurgence at the moment. But what

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of the wreck hunters who devote their lives to find new Conservative

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Riese. -- new Conservative Riese. The Scilly Isles, a secret location

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hidden 30 feet beneath the waves. A 400-year-old shipwreck discovered

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languishing on the ocean floor. The amateur wreck hunters Todd Stevens,

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a local carpenter, and Robin Burrows from the landlocked West Midlands.

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Their latest adventure, seven days diving by marine archaeologists sent

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by English Heritage. Their objective - to prove that the wreck they found

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is the flying Joan, part of Sir Walter Raleigh's fleet which sank

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without trace on its final voyage. These guys are no strangers to

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hunting for shipwrecks. Over the last 15 years they've found a

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treasure-trove of artefacts, from ancient pottery, dominoes, coins,

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even a 200-year-old musket. If it is down there, the likelihood is they

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will find it. Any disasters? Plenty. Really? You dive a great many sites

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just to find one of interest and you come up with a washing machine. That

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was eagerly anticipated, how did that get all the way out there?

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Clean washing I hope? We didn't look. How excited are you when you

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find something like this? He is worse than a dog. As soon as the

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engine stops he is on his kit and over the side. What makes you so

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confident that this latest find is important? This is quite crudely

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built. It all fits. Toby from welcomes Archaeology is leading the

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team investigating the wreck site. What you can see here are the

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timbers of the wreck all along here, and three guns. How important is it

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to you, that amateur wreck hunters do highlight cases like this for

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you? It is very important. When historic wrecks like this come to

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light we hope they would be reported to the relevant authorities so they

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can be protected for future generations. It is not treasure that

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the archaeologists are after. It is all about getting the right wood

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sample. Toby, that was your first dive. 1960s pleasure cruiser or are

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you confident that's an old wreck? It is definitely the real deal. All

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the evidence is pointing to a wreck for those dates. It is just finding

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a bit of wood that will be the right quality of sample. We would send it

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to a specialist. This ewould measure the distances between all the rings.

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The tree grow grows certain amounts each year. If it is a warm year it

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grows year and if it is cold, it grows less. The pattern can be

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matched with other trees, so you can tell exactly where that tree came

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from. Almost like a fingerprint?It is more like a bar code. The divers

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are having to battle against very poor visibility, which is unusual at

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this time of year. So far they haven't retrieved a sample good

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enough to be analysed but after 45 minutes of under underwater saw sag

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it looks like they've retrieved their bounty. This is exactly what

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we were after, so it is a much thicker piece of wood. There's very

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little in terms of marine borers. Hopefully we'll get some information

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from it. A really productive day and a massive smile on my face, because

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that last dive they came one that great sample. By the end of the week

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they need two or three similar samples that they can go and

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analyse. A good day. What a day and what a discovery.

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Philippa, you are yet to right about Sir Walter. Have you got any plans

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to include him? I'm worki through t the Plantagenets. He is Elizabethan,

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a bit further on. He is this great adventurer it. He goes to America

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several times and the ship is sunk after he is trying to find the

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fabled city of Ed doored a o. He really -- El Dorado. It will be

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great if it is the flying the Joan. Alison from English Heritage is

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here. You are collating all this information from the dive. The

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divers have brought some artefacts to the surface, including this

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cannonball. And there's some pottery, some ceramics. The thing

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we've been interested this is the wood samples. Can I ask why that's

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being kept in water? It is our standard conservation guidance for

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divers, to keep their finds wet, so they can get proper conservation

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treatment. What do you think the chances are of this wreck being the

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flying Joan? The finds that we have looked at today are 15th and 16th

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century. Until we get our wood samples back and the dating we can't

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be sure. That will allow us to give a date for the whole of the site. It

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has been a known Anchorage for centuries, so there'll be

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archaeological contamination. is a significant find, because you

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know it is that age. Boats of that age are rare, regardless of whether

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it is the flying Joan, it is an exciting site for us. The wreck

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hunters in the film got in touch with English Heritage. What about

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divers that might go down and take artefacts from a wreck and not pass

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them on. How much of a problem is that? We don't set the legislation,

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there's different bits of law that deal with that. We are keen to

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encourage people to comply with the law. If salvage is undertaken

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legitimately and if there is a museum and conservation in place,

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there is no issues. I would like to encourage divers to talk to us,

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because we can share our information about the known sites we know of. We

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work well with the diving community. We will keep our fingers crossed

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that it is the flying Joan. I have a question. When I was taught

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at school, Sir Walter Raleigh was described as some sort of wonderful

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nobleman, but was he really or was he a pirate? He was an adventurer.

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He had guts. He was an adventurer and he was an important person of

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his time. He was licensed as a pirate? He was, because the

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Elizabeth and subsequently James would allow people to attack, say,

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the Spanish treasure ships. They would be working as pirates but

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licensed by the English Crown to do so. We were not taught that in

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schools. Put it in a book, for goodness sake. Thanks again. It took

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just one step for Private Nick Franklin's life to change forever.

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Nick is another casualty of the war in Afghanistan, but as Dr Mark

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Porter has been founding out his chances of getting back to something

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like normal has been hugely helped by receive illusionary new surgery.

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In October 2011 Private Nick Franklin left behind his wife and

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baby son Jenson for his first tour of military duty in Afghanistan.

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was hard, very hard to leave them behind and leave my wife, because

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she was in bits, because she didn't expect me to go off so quickly.

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four weeks after leaving home Nick suffered devastating injuries from

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an IED, an improvised explosive device. The day that we went on the

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patrol, I said to my mate, I've got a funny feeling that we are going to

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get a contact from an IED or the Taliban themselves. Literally as I

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just turned around to take one step, off it went. I was thrown up into

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the air. I was screaming, "My leg! My leg! ." Within 24 hours Nick was

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back in the UK with Shareen at his bedside. I remember looking at him

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and he was a state. I remember kissing him and saying, everything's

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going to be all right. When thetive. ED went off, my leg went to here and

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the blast took the lower half of my leg outright. With the my right leg

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I've had a lot of fragmentation damage from the IED. It took a

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percentage of my knee away. On paper it is supposed to be my good leg,

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but it is not. With a growing family Nick is determined to get back to

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work but the does Abeling pain from his knee makes it seem a distant

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knee. I can't stand, turning, twisting, I can just about hold my

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son. It is too much weight on my knees. Confronted with complex bomb

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injuries like Nick's specialists are having to push the boundaries of

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orthopaedic surgery to their limits. I see you have had a lot of plastic

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surgical work here. Scans show the load bearing section

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of Nick's right knee is wearing away. The inside of the knee here

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has been blown away and blown into pieces by a piece of shrapnel. In

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Nick's case if he stands still, it doesn't hurt too much. If he tries

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to move, the rough surfaces grate together and grind themselves away.

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A standard knee replacement would mean cutting out what remains of

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Nick's healthy ligaments and cartilage, potentially leaving him

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less mobile. Using state-of-the-art 3 D scannings, they have engineered

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tailor made implants with measurements so precise they will

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have to be put in place by this robot. It is called extreme

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orthopaedics. The robot holds the surgeon's hand and allows the

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surgeon to achieve things that I couldn't achieve otherwise. If we

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get this right, most people in the street will have no idea there is

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anything the matter with them and he won't think there is anything the

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matter most of the time. Nick is the only the third soldier

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in the UK to have this surgery. think it is amazing that he has been

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given that opportunity. He deserves it for what he has done for our

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country. As a surgeon, being able to put a

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young injured person back together again is unbelievably exciting. How

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wonderful is that? Unbelievably exciting. The main thing is to get

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back into a civilian job. It is your pride. It is how you want to look

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after your family. Mark has given special access to

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watch Nick's operation and we can see that later.

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Nick, his wife and professor Cobb are here to tell us how far he has

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progressed and we will chat in a while. It is good to see you all.

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Nick is smiling. Charlene, you witnessed a minor

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miracle, your guitarist, Ally had had a brain haemorrhage in 2009. How

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is he now? He is playing guitar and touring. I mean, it is quite, it

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came as such a shock, him being the youngest member of the band. He

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lives a healthy lifestyle and had a grade five brain aneurysm. . ..

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There were any warnings? No. It seems to be quite, it seems quite

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common in musicians. But he was more than keen to get back? Oh, he

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couldn't wait. Basically, he was in a coma for three months and he was

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in hospital for about a year, but we thought once he started to get

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better because they really said he wasn't going to live and we thought

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that was the first time we really thought, he is not going to want to

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go on tour and he was the one that was like "I have got to get on the

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road. I have got to get out of this hospital. I have got to do what I'm

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good at." It was amazing to watch him on stage and all the old memory,

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he has been playing in Texas since he was 17 so all the old memory was

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great. Excellent.

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Wm, on a different note, but would be barking mad not to keep fit. At

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least that's the view of a growing club of dog owners in Lanarkshire.

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Well, after teaming up with a tour legged campanion, Sarah Mack

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discovered it involves more than just a walk in the park!

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With the Olympics last year and the Commonwealth Games come to go

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Glasgow in 2014, more and more of us are being inspired to get off the

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sofa and get fit. So I've come to Lanarkshire to join a running club,

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but this one is slightly different. It not only helps us to get fit, but

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our dogs too! Canicross has built up a large

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following with keen runners and dog lovers alike. It is a sport which is

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as healthy for man and dog. Lynnsy is a fitness fanatic who loves

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running. And set-up her own club along with her fury best friend. And

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like most dogs he loves to run. So explain the art of canicross. How

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does it work? Well, the dog is harnessed attached to the owner with

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a bungee line. The dog should be running out in front pulling you

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along. Can any breed of dog do it? P-yes,

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as long as the dog can run. They can all take partment

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How did you get involved? contacted local running groups and

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groups and asked if I could bring my dog and I wasn't able to. The power

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of social media, I got in touch with like minded people and we formed a

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group together and it grew from there. It changed my life. I went

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from running five Ks with the dog to running marathons in the space of a

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year. What do the canicross addicts like

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about running with their beloved dogs? I just like it because it

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makes you get really close to them. I am into running and I started

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canicross. I love running. The safety side of things of running

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a group is important? I would like to go places, but not on my own.

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How did she cope with the running? She is really good and she pulls you

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along with I is helpful when you are getting tired legs and you can

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encourage her to go in front of you. Canicross has changed my dog's life

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and my life. Anyone who wants to get out and ex-ear sighs their dog and

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if they have -- exercise their dog and if they have a behavioural issue

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this will help. I have come from a size 24 to a size

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14. I am happy to stay at the back of the pack, but give it the best

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you have got. When I am lagging behind at the

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back, will you keep me company? will be there!

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I'm off to join the rest of the pack!

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I'm feeling a wee bit nervous. So the first test to run without

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falling flat on my face. Thankfully, I've passed! It was exhilarating

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outside on a summer's evening running with 40 other dog owners and

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their dogs. Canicross is definitely Ah, he is tired. There are plenty of

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dos and don'ts when it comes to canicross which can be found on our

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website. But Matthew Baker has more. Make sure your dog has water. Check

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the ground that your ground is running on and don't over exert your

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dog. If you are running a certain distance, you have got to get back

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again. Make sure your dog isn't too tired.

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Philippa, do you do this with your dog? He is a big dog. He is an

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independent dog. It does look like him, but Ben is more handsome.

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They are very big. He is very big and he is gentle and

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afession nat, but self willed. So he will go where he wants to go and if

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I have to run after him sometimes and none of this co-operative

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running and if I scold him, he will sit with his back to me because he

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is a sulker and he won't speak to me for half an hour or so until I say,

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" Shall we make up?" Talking of strong characters you have played a

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lot and you started at quite a young age. We have got this to show you.

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Oh no. Sorry, I didn't realise. You did

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that on purpose. That's right. I'm going to do it again. If I share my

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knowledge with judo with you, you should share your knowledge with me.

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We all want to get good results, don't we? Now work for it.You

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couldn't have heard what I said. APPLAUSE

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I have people watching The One Show and I know they will be calling me

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tonight. Oh dear, I'm so embarrassed.

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It was very well acted. My braids. Oh dear gosh. I haven't seen that

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for a very long time. Can we move Part of a new project that's going

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to let loads of people live and on the big screen see you and Kenneth

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Branagh perform Macbeth. Tell us about this project then? Well, I do

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do some judo throws on Kenneth. I am working my way up. I haven't told

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him yet! Macbeth, it is part of the international Manchester

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international festival and this has started since I have been away in

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Los Angeles, but it is the only festival that commission new works

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and that's new works in the visual arts and popular culture and in the

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performing arts. So the festival itself commissioned Kennet and Rob

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Ashford to come up with a new interpretation of Macbeth. And you

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are playing Lady Macbeth Yes, I am. Have you seen the concept of theatre

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in cinemas? You get a bigger audience and people who can't get to

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Manchester get the chance to see it locally.

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One of the difficulties is the location in which we are performing

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the play, it is a small space for a theatre and so the number of people

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that are able to see the production is limited and in fact, the

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production has sold out. But so I was thrilled when I found out that

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National Theatre Live were going to screen it and I have seen screenings

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in Los Angeles of performances at the National Theatre and it works

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really well. You almost forget that you are watching it on screen.

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You have come straight from rehearsal. I have, yeah. It is going

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really well actually. I am a little nervous, but I'm having such a good

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time in rehearsal and everybody is great. How is Kenneth Branagh? He is

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a big deal, isn't he? He is renowned for working on this type of

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material. How have you found him as a director? Mm, well he is

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codirecting with Rob Ashford because Ken is playing Macbeth he can't be

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in both places at the same time, but he tries!

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He is wonderful. I mean, he is very generous and the thing that I'm

:25:41.:25:47.

loving is that the space is safe. One feels that one can just try

:25:47.:25:51.

things and look a fool and everybody is there supporting you just having

:25:51.:25:57.

a go. So I just, I think, that it will be very, very exciting. We wish

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you all the best. Yes, we do. The Big Screen Live of Macbeth is on

:26:02.:26:07.

Saturday, 20th July. 69 years ago today, thousands of

:26:07.:26:11.

allied troops along the South Coast were waiting for the signal to begin

:26:12.:26:21.

what became known as D-Day. Years of plans -- planning was behind it. Dan

:26:21.:26:27.

Snow reports. The wild heathlands of hankly Common

:26:27.:26:37.
:26:37.:26:41.

in Surrey. Recently starred as James Bond's remote Skyfall estate. In the

:26:41.:26:46.

dark days of 1943, Britain and the allies were looking forward to did

:26:46.:26:53.

D-Day. Their plan to invade the beaches of Europe and free Europe

:26:53.:26:58.

from the Nazis. And hidden in the woods was a top-secret site where

:26:58.:27:03.

one British genius was able to test his cunning ideas to take on the

:27:03.:27:12.

formidable German defences. Among them, Hitler's Atlantic Wall. Miles

:27:12.:27:16.

of concrete fortifications running along the French coast and bristling

:27:16.:27:21.

with artillery, barbed wire and millions of mines. The allies knew

:27:21.:27:27.

from experience what damage defences -- damage to fences like these dwo

:27:27.:27:33.

could. A raid on the occupied port ended in disast when their troops

:27:33.:27:37.

became trapped on the beach. Over 4,000 men were wounded, captured or

:27:37.:27:43.

killed. The allies were determined not to

:27:43.:27:48.

make that same mistake a second time. So here in the Surrey woodland

:27:48.:27:58.
:27:58.:28:00.

they built this - a replica section of the Atlantic Wall to practise on.

:28:00.:28:06.

How did they know how to build it? Because they looked at real thing

:28:06.:28:10.

and they used information from the French resistance and sent raiding

:28:11.:28:15.

parties across at night tomed swim ashore and come up the beach to chip

:28:15.:28:18.

concrete off the real wall to make sure the mix of the concrete was

:28:18.:28:23.

right. It is jaw dropping just how much

:28:23.:28:28.

effort they went to to build this wall. Once it was finished they

:28:28.:28:32.

spent the time working out how to smash it down and to solve that

:28:32.:28:39.

problem they turned the imagination of a maverick, Major General.

:28:39.:28:45.

His name was Percy Hobart, a difficult, but brilliant royal

:28:45.:28:49.

engineer. He was renowned for his ability to think outside the box as

:28:49.:28:56.

David explains. Percy Hobart's a fantastic character. He found his

:28:56.:29:01.

moment in World War II. He takes normal battle tanks like this

:29:01.:29:07.

Churchill tank and converts them by adding new weaponry. They end up

:29:07.:29:17.
:29:17.:29:17.

being called Hobart's Funnies. This one was called the Goat. It was

:29:17.:29:24.

designed to be against a wall and detonated from a distance. They put

:29:24.:29:28.

this mortar and this is one of the rounds they fired. Inside there are

:29:28.:29:35.

28 pounds of high explosive. It will go about 100m and make one hell of a

:29:35.:29:39.

hole in anything it is fired at. enough of these could cause a huge

:29:39.:29:46.

hole in a wall like this one? first one didn't do it, there are 28

:29:46.:29:50.

other rounds in there. You keep firing until you are through.

:29:50.:29:56.

Percy's work was supposedly top secret. This local resident wrote,

:29:56.:30:03.

our bedroom ceiling cracked in all directions during some exceptionally

:30:03.:30:13.

noisy exercises on the Commons. What Molly couldn't eknow was her bedroom

:30:13.:30:17.

ceiling was one small cushily at the in the build-up to the biggest land,

:30:17.:30:23.

sector and air assault in history. On June sixth 1944, D-Day finally

:30:23.:30:28.

arrived. After months of practise on Hankley Common, Percy's specially

:30:28.:30:34.

adapted tanks rolled on to the French beaches. In just one day they

:30:34.:30:38.

helped breach the mighty Atlantic wall and the allies were on their

:30:38.:30:42.

way. In less than a year the war in Europe was over. It just goes to

:30:42.:30:46.

show that even against an obstacle as powerful as the German war

:30:46.:30:54.

machine, a little bit of British ingenuity goes a long way. You can

:30:54.:31:01.

see the first episode of Dan's documentary D-Day - The Last Heroes

:31:01.:31:07.

this Sunday evening at ten past nine. You mentioned that your mum

:31:07.:31:12.

was part of the D-Day plans? They gave her some plans to take to

:31:12.:31:17.

Portsmouth. She had to drive from London to Portsmouth. She was in the

:31:17.:31:24.

female Yeomenry. As she was going south, there was a huge convoy of

:31:24.:31:29.

American troops, also heading south. Her car got stuck with in nonstop

:31:29.:31:38.

stream of tanks and armoured vehicles and everything. She said in

:31:38.:31:44.

a very nonaggressive female officer kind of way, help me, help me, I

:31:44.:31:49.

have to get to Portsmouth. And he stopped the convoy, which was a huge

:31:49.:31:53.

thing to do, and her car got through and she got through to the

:31:53.:31:59.

headquarters. She believes that if it had not been for her... That is a

:31:59.:32:04.

whole new book Poverties I thought he might ring Dan right now.

:32:04.:32:08.

programme doesn't go out until Sunday.

:32:08.:32:14.

Sharleen, eight years on Texas have eventually brought out a new album.

:32:14.:32:18.

It is called The Conversation. It is brilliant, but why has it taken so

:32:18.:32:24.

long and where have you been? years ago when we did the last Texas

:32:24.:32:31.

album it got to the point where we had sold so many records, been on so

:32:31.:32:35.

many TVs, did so much towering. People liked us but I think it was

:32:35.:32:42.

just a bit too much of us so we decided to take some time off.

:32:42.:32:49.

Families and kids and that stuff. And then Ally had a brain aneurysm.

:32:49.:32:55.

Are all the other members the same? Yep, everybody. We all see each

:32:55.:33:00.

other all the time anyway, so for us it was, with it felt like we hadn't

:33:00.:33:05.

stopped. We've managed to get our act together and we went back out

:33:05.:33:12.

and did some dates. We thought, stop being so lazy, make a record.

:33:12.:33:22.
:33:22.:33:28.

album is called The Conversation. # Give it up

:33:28.:33:33.

# Never gonna hold you up # You've always been afraid of love

:33:33.:33:43.
:33:43.:33:45.

# It is time to have a conversation. APPLAUSE

:33:45.:33:51.

That looked like you were doing Canicross there. My dog would never

:33:51.:33:59.

do that. I had a bit of an accident during the video. We've got the

:33:59.:34:09.

footage. Oh! Sharleen! You are holding your head. My mouth

:34:09.:34:13.

instantly filled with blood, so I thought I smashed my teeth. I hit my

:34:14.:34:18.

face on the corner of the pavement. It was rather sore. Were those

:34:18.:34:23.

extras there? No, they were members of the public, trying to pick me up

:34:23.:34:29.

and I was screaming, don't touch me! It was pretty painful. That must

:34:30.:34:34.

have put you out of action for three weeks? No, I got about three days.

:34:34.:34:39.

They kept saying, take arnica. everything from behind. Like we can

:34:39.:34:45.

do other shots, shoot you from the other side. Soup through a straw?

:34:45.:34:52.

Yes, it was pretty sore when I was running. I had a really bad headache

:34:52.:34:57.

for a week. Did your partner look after you? No, he's typical, he's

:34:57.:35:03.

Welsh isn't he. Sharleen!I walked in and he took one look at me and

:35:03.:35:09.

said, what happened to you? No, he was like, that looks pretty bad.

:35:09.:35:14.

ehe cook for you, because he is a celeb at the chef. I couldn't move

:35:14.:35:19.

my mouth. I just wanted to lie down. Was your dad there? He always used

:35:19.:35:29.
:35:29.:35:30.

to come with you? My dad goes on tour with us. He will kill me. Look

:35:31.:35:36.

at his AC/DC T-shirt. He was in the merchant Navy all our lives and he

:35:36.:35:42.

drove my mum insane when he retired, so we had to take him on tour.

:35:42.:35:47.

People can come and seep you at Hyde Park? We are doing Hyde Park,

:35:47.:35:55.

Carfest. Is it north or south Carfest? Both. And we do the Texas

:35:55.:35:58.

tour in October. October and November we are out on a big Texas

:35:58.:36:02.

tour, which we haven't done in a long time. We are glad to have you

:36:02.:36:06.

back. It is about time. The Conversation is out right now.

:36:06.:36:12.

Now, the earlier on we saw Dr Mark Porter meet Private Nick Franklin as

:36:12.:36:17.

he prepared for ground-breaking surgery on his shattered knee.

:36:17.:36:21.

Here's what happened just seven weeks ago. 18 months ago Private

:36:22.:36:26.

Nick Franklin's legs took the full force of a booby trap bomb when he

:36:26.:36:32.

was serving in Afghanistan. Obviously I lost my left leg below

:36:32.:36:36.

the knee and I sustained a large amount of damage to the right leg.

:36:36.:36:41.

The bone is missing around this area here. Is it painful?Very painful.

:36:41.:36:46.

What does it stop you doing? A lot of things. I can't really pick up my

:36:46.:36:54.

little boy, because it puts too much pressure on my knee. And my wife is

:36:54.:36:58.

having to be a career for the little ones and for me. There was a few

:36:58.:37:03.

times when he said, I wish they had just took the leg off, because he

:37:03.:37:07.

was in so much pain. Getting this operation is going to make such a

:37:07.:37:12.

difference. The complex bomb damage to Nick's right leg mean there is

:37:12.:37:17.

little chance of his ever getting back to an active life. So

:37:17.:37:22.

specialists here at the King Edward VII Hospital in London are going to

:37:22.:37:30.

try to repair Nick's shattered knee with implants put in by a robot.

:37:30.:37:36.

Welcome to extreme orthopaedics. can see from the back of the knee

:37:36.:37:40.

the shrapnel blew away the weight-bearing part of his knee.

:37:40.:37:44.

is what you are going to do today different from a standard knee

:37:44.:37:49.

replacement? Most people fit high street store clothes and their knees

:37:49.:37:53.

fit department store knees, but each person is blown up did is blown up

:37:53.:37:57.

in a rather different way. So for these young men we make things

:37:57.:38:02.

specially for them. Nick's tailor-made implants will be

:38:02.:38:07.

positioned by the help of this robot fed with the exact geometry of his

:38:07.:38:11.

damaged knee and the plans for fixing it. We are about ten minutes

:38:11.:38:15.

into the operation and it is time to bring the robot in. It is very

:38:16.:38:21.

important it is done with pin-point accuracy or Nick can end up with a

:38:21.:38:25.

knee which is worse. There is no room for error. First Professor Cobb

:38:26.:38:31.

must lock the robot on to Nick's knee. With a normal operation I look

:38:31.:38:35.

and decide it is about here. What we are going to do now is find a lot of

:38:35.:38:42.

points. This is the crucial point of which any precise operation. Using

:38:42.:38:45.

an interactive touchscreen he matches up a series of reference

:38:45.:38:51.

points inside the joint with the robot's 3D images of it. Let's go.

:38:51.:38:55.

The robot is ready to begin its work, sculpting Nick's damaged tibia

:38:55.:39:02.

and femur with a high -speed cutting burr. This is the bit I'm stressing

:39:02.:39:06.

about, or one of the bits, because I'm close to the back of the joint.

:39:06.:39:13.

And you can see it is a bit like a Space Invaders game, clearing the

:39:14.:39:19.

bone. Professor Cobb is guiding the burr but the robot is keeping a

:39:19.:39:24.

close eye on his progress. As you get towards the boundary, the robot

:39:24.:39:27.

starts to resist, saying I don't want to be here. You don't want to

:39:27.:39:32.

be here either. If you know what's good for you, stop now. Would you be

:39:32.:39:37.

able to hand over completely to the robot? No. If you hand over

:39:37.:39:42.

completely it stops. It would never be possible to achieve this degree

:39:42.:39:47.

of accuraciy by human eye or hand alone. We are 45 minutes into the

:39:47.:39:53.

operation. It has all gone very well. The robot has cut the slots

:39:53.:39:58.

into the bone to accept the metal surfaces of the joint. So far, so

:39:58.:40:04.

good. I've prepared these shape shapes. These are coated in the same

:40:04.:40:09.

chemical as bone. Bone is going to grow straight on to these. Can you

:40:09.:40:13.

see this sort of technology becoming routine? If I have a knee

:40:13.:40:17.

replacement in 20 years' time might I be using this sort of thing?

:40:17.:40:22.

think what you will expect is to have plans made like this, because

:40:22.:40:26.

that doesn't cost very much and you will expect some sort of

:40:26.:40:32.

technological assistance. Are you happy? Very happy. I'm delighted

:40:32.:40:39.

actually. For an hour and 15 and the professor's put Nick's new knee in.

:40:39.:40:44.

Is technology is amazing. Let's hope it gives Nick the life he's hoping

:40:44.:40:49.

for. We can find out because Nick, Shareen and Professor Justin Cobb

:40:49.:40:54.

are here. Nick, seven weeks ago, how are you feeling now? A lot better.

:40:54.:40:59.

It is seven weeks, a long time ago, but yeah, the operation went really

:40:59.:41:03.

well and... What are you noticing? Are you noticing that it feels

:41:03.:41:08.

stronger? A lot stronger. It is a lot more secure an it was before.

:41:08.:41:12.

Obviously when I was walking, sometimes bone would lock and it

:41:12.:41:18.

would give in, so I would have to stop. And I would have to lean on my

:41:18.:41:24.

wife to get to get my leg back into its normal state. But since I've had

:41:24.:41:28.

the op done it is a massive improvement. I don't have to take so

:41:28.:41:32.

many pain killers any more. You said you wanteded to be able to interact

:41:32.:41:37.

more with your children. Is it making a big difference Shareen at

:41:37.:41:41.

home? Definitely. It has made such a huge difference. He doesn't have to

:41:41.:41:46.

lean on me any more. He is walking a lot better. He's off the pain

:41:46.:41:51.

killers can. It has improved his temperament as well. He used to get

:41:51.:41:55.

grumpy when he was in pain. what's incredible is the timing of

:41:55.:42:01.

the operation. It was vital in your lives. Tell us why? I had to get

:42:01.:42:09.

induced, because our bany Page was due on 11th April. His operation was

:42:09.:42:16.

on 18th. If I went over, he wouldn't be there for the birth. Wow!So it

:42:16.:42:22.

was like, get her out quick. Professor Cobb it is remarkable to

:42:22.:42:29.

see that. Nick was interested to have that as a log to look back at.

:42:29.:42:33.

But pioneering technology helps the accuracy. What else could this be

:42:33.:42:40.

used for? The suite of technologies allows us to almost do anything now

:42:40.:42:42.

in terms of reconstructing the skeleton but for ordinary people

:42:43.:42:48.

wearing out it has allowed us to do things much more accurately and

:42:48.:42:52.

taking away less person. The wonderful thing about Nick is he is

:42:52.:43:02.
:43:02.:43:03.

walking abusefully so soon. -- walking beautifully so soon.

:43:03.:43:07.

must be absolutely delighted Nick. I guess you can't really put into it

:43:07.:43:10.

words. What you've been through is incredibly traumatic in itself.

:43:10.:43:14.

is traumatic and it is hard for a lot of blokes who go through what

:43:14.:43:19.

I've been through. But obviously with the support of my wife and my

:43:19.:43:25.

family I've managed to push through a hell of a lot of it. I should have

:43:25.:43:35.

been on crutches for an extra two months. And it is determination. A

:43:35.:43:40.

massive improvement. I want to push on and get on with the rest of my

:43:40.:43:44.

life. We wish all the best to you and to your family and to Professor

:43:44.:43:50.

Cobb. Now, I'm guessing you ladies have flown quite a lot. But look at

:43:50.:43:56.

this picture. That wasn't down to unruly passengers. It was extreme

:43:56.:44:01.

turbulence. Kochee on the ceiling, the lot. Marty Jopson Plett the man

:44:01.:44:06.

charged with making sure that modern aircraft are safe from lightning

:44:06.:44:12.

strikes. In the average year around 300,000

:44:12.:44:17.

lightening bolts hit Britain. 45 people are struck by lightening and

:44:17.:44:24.

in the air over 20,000 aircraft are hit. How does it happen?

:44:24.:44:30.

It is all to do with what is making my hair stand on end. Electrical

:44:30.:44:36.

charge in atoms. Inside clouds, water and ice are constantly moving

:44:36.:44:43.

around. Scientists aren't sure how, but this causes some ice to become

:44:43.:44:48.

electricically charged. The positively charged ice accumulates

:44:49.:44:53.

at the top of the cloud. The negatively charged ice builds up at

:44:53.:45:00.

the bottom. And because opposite charges attract, this build-up of

:45:00.:45:04.

negative charge pulls positive charge to the surfaces of the earth.

:45:04.:45:08.

And there is enough charge here that it flashes over and that's how you

:45:08.:45:15.

get a lightening strike. Lightening is dangerous enough on the ground.

:45:15.:45:22.

But what happens when you are at 35,000 feet in a metal tube? This is

:45:22.:45:32.
:45:32.:45:36.

what happens. 100 million volts passes through the plane. Cardiff

:45:36.:45:39.

University have set-up a lightening laboratory to allow engineers like

:45:40.:45:44.

Chris Stone to understand the effects and come up with solutions.

:45:44.:45:48.

Chris, how often do planes get struck then? On average each

:45:48.:45:51.

commercial aircraft is struck once a year.

:45:51.:45:56.

That's a lot. It is quite a lot. So they survive it. What are they

:45:56.:46:01.

made of? They are made out of aluminium which is a good conductor

:46:01.:46:05.

of electricity. Chris has simulated what happens

:46:05.:46:10.

when lightening hits the aluminium planes. In fact, it the charge

:46:10.:46:14.

passes along the exterior and out the other end causing almost no

:46:14.:46:20.

damage. But these days, planes are increasingly being made out of more

:46:20.:46:24.

energy efficient materials. Modern aircraft are being built out of

:46:24.:46:28.

carbon-fibre to reduce weight, to save energy, to make the aeroplanes

:46:28.:46:32.

more green. The trouble is carbon-fibre isn't as

:46:32.:46:38.

conductive so the lightening causes more damage. We can simulate that

:46:38.:46:44.

here. We bring the lightening in through the cables. Pass it between

:46:44.:46:47.

these two points here and it strikes the panel.

:46:47.:46:50.

So how much current is you got then? It is three times the average

:46:50.:46:55.

lightening strike. Let's do it. Come on!

:46:55.:46:59.

Each lightening strike Chris makes contains the same energy as a

:46:59.:47:04.

nuclear power station produces in a day. So it is best not to be in the

:47:04.:47:14.
:47:14.:47:28.

That was it? That's amazing. That's a hell of a

:47:28.:47:33.

bang. A he hell of a bang. In slow motion, we can see frame by

:47:33.:47:38.

frame what happens as the strike hits. It only lasts 32 million thsz

:47:38.:47:44.

of a second. But the damage is clear to see.

:47:44.:47:48.

Look at that. So if this was the outside of an aeroplane, that would

:47:48.:47:55.

be bad news? You wouldn't like that to happen. To ensure it doesn't,

:47:55.:47:59.

Chris tests carbon-fibre panels covered with different coatings to

:47:59.:48:06.

see which coats with -- copes with lightening best. Firing.The tests

:48:06.:48:12.

revealed the answer. A cooper weave just 600ths of' millimetre thick.

:48:12.:48:18.

This is a cooper foil. So this is the same carbon-fibre

:48:19.:48:26.

with chicken wire over the top. Yes. You can see the damage there

:48:26.:48:30.

is. This gives you the best of both worlds? Yes, the lightness of the

:48:30.:48:35.

panel and the conductivity of the metallic foil.

:48:35.:48:40.

Chris' work means when our fuel efficient planes of the future are

:48:40.:48:46.

struck by lightening, we will still be as safe inside as we are now.

:48:46.:48:52.

Well, thanks, Martin, but what is it like to be struck by lightening?

:48:52.:48:58.

Well, we know someone who can tell us, Barry Stanley. No you welcome

:48:58.:49:01.

Barry. It is nice to have you with us. What can you remember about the

:49:01.:49:07.

experience you had? It is extremely painful. Nine years down the line I

:49:07.:49:12.

still feel the pain every step I a take, it feels like walking on

:49:12.:49:16.

broken glass, broken raiser blades. It was on your birthday. Set the

:49:16.:49:23.

scene for us. You were out for a walk? I was visiting my mum in the

:49:23.:49:27.

Lake District. We were having a look and it came over dark and it started

:49:27.:49:30.

belting it down with the rain. I suggested we should head back to the

:49:30.:49:36.

car. We started walking back towards the car and 30 foot from the car, a

:49:36.:49:42.

bolt of lightening came down and I was underneath it. And what happened

:49:42.:49:45.

next then? Well, the lightening through me about six foot up in the

:49:45.:49:49.

air. I hit the deck and when I was lying on the ground, apparently

:49:49.:49:55.

there was just smoke coming off me. Me mum and brother were sitting up

:49:55.:50:00.

shaking my head, are you all right? There was me face first in the mud.

:50:00.:50:04.

Rolled me over. No pulse. They started mouth to mouth and chest

:50:04.:50:09.

compressions and got me breathing. So when did you come around then?

:50:09.:50:12.

briefly regained consciousness in the air ambulance. I looked to my

:50:12.:50:16.

left and opened my eyes and all I could see was clouds. I didn't know

:50:16.:50:21.

what was going on, where I was. idea how you managed to survive

:50:21.:50:25.

that? What have they said to you about it? More chance of you winning

:50:25.:50:29.

the Lottery than being struck by lightening, but the only thing I can

:50:29.:50:32.

put it down to is the love and support from my family and the fact

:50:32.:50:36.

I was physically strong and fit and healthy at the time.

:50:36.:50:40.

Well, you have an incredible outlook on life. You really do. And you

:50:40.:50:44.

won't let anything beat you. Thank you for coming in. Yes, thanks,

:50:45.:50:47.

Barry. Philippa. There is a lot of

:50:48.:50:51.

excitement surrounding the new television series. A ten parter on

:50:51.:50:56.

the BBC called The White Queen. Let's have a look at what we can

:50:56.:51:03.

expect. I cannot be your mistress. I may die

:51:03.:51:08.

in battle, but this could be my last request. You could deny your king

:51:08.:51:17.

that? You will not die. You are quick and brave and lucky. Then I

:51:17.:51:27.
:51:27.:51:29.

must go and this will be the end of it. Tomorrow. Sunset. Meet me by the

:51:29.:51:34.

big oak tree even if only to say goodbye.

:51:34.:51:42.

We are all gripped. I can't wait. It is based on your series of books,

:51:42.:51:48.

the Cousins War. What was the White Queen? She is the wife of Edward the

:51:48.:51:52.

fourth and one of the stories in history we do know they are married

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for love. They married in secret and actually her arrival in court as the

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Queen is one of the things that prolongs the wars because Edward's

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chief adviser and mentor takes a dislike to her and that means there

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is another series of wars after the ones that Edward just goes off and

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wins. It has everything, love, lust and war. What role did you play then

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as well as writing the books? Bringing the story to life for the

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screen? Well, I was executive producer on the project. So I was

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involved in casting and all of those decisions, but the main thing

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because I'm a writer by trade, of course, the main thing I was really

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interested with the sciment so I worked closely with the script

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writer, Emma Frost and the team of script writers.

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And where there big arguments about the scenes you had to get off and

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you wanted to keep in? There are always creative differences and this

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was one of the happiest projects I worked on. It was extraordinary

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because we set off with a determination as staying as closely

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to the novels novels as possible. You lose, you are out of time, you

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know, although it is ten hours, it is based on three big novels and

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those focussed on three complex women characters. Of course, you

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have problems of how much you are going to be able to put in.

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A real luxury to have for you. When you see something on a big screen,

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you go, " It is not like that at all. They look different." It must

:53:20.:53:30.
:53:30.:53:31.

be lovely to have that It is a lucks lucksee -- it is a luxury, you are

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right. Is What do you like about Philippa's

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work? You just get lost within the story and it is fantastic to be

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reading something that's historically accurate. So you feel

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like you are educating yourself at the same time. You can relate to

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pieces of it within your own life which is amazing.

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How much can you flesh out? From an enteartainment how much do you feel

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like that you want to elaborate? Nobody keeps any diary of what is

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use to us. Of course, they go behind a closed door. All the material has

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to be fiction. So it is almost like a reconstruction sometimes. You know

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that someone is there. You know why they are dl because you can see what

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they do when they are there and then you write the scene where they make

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up their mind to go and when they go through the emotion. It is emotions

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and feelings are always going to be fiction, but that is also true for

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people who are writing straight history. They too only have a small

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amount of factual material to go on. So you often find historians say, "

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We know that Elizabeth fillet such and such." -- felt such and such."

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don't know if you agree, one of the lovely things you write your novels

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from a female prospective. Most historians tell it from a male

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prospective. Do you find that? what I really enjoyed about the

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whole of the series of books so far is I was struck by how young the

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chief protagonists are. They were really very, very young and yet were

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put in these positions of extraordinary power and inside an

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awful sort of way. -- and in an awful sort of way. What they had to

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endure as young girls in terms of having to bed men, whatever, who

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were much older than them. I mean and in light of what we are dealing

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with today in the news and everything, I just feel like gosh,

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it has not really changed all that much or is it something that is

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actually just part of, it is an awful thing to say, nature and

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society, but it has been going on for a very, very long time.

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Well, we can indulge in pill ip pa's work -- Philippa's work.

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There is White Queen breaking news. Yes, the big news is that male cast

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members were banned from wearing tights during film of it The White

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Queen. On The One Show we can't get enough of men in tights.

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So we are going to celebrate them in a game we are calling Celebrity

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Tight Spots. Are you up for this? You have to try

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and spot the celebrity from their legs. Dave is modelling the trophy.

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No padded trousers on him. You see, I like those tights. Come in.Just

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put the trophy down, but be careful with where you bend! They are a

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horrible shade, aren't they? Mushroom. Let's have a look...There

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is not much room in them tights. Sorry. Let's look at the first set

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of pins. Alex this one is for you. Now, here are your clues. This actor

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and presenter put an adder, so ary a ladder in many pairs of tights

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playing comedy versions of King Charles I and the Duke of Wellington

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It is not Hugh Laurie. Not quite. A friend of his. You could say he

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is... Not Stephen Fry.Yes. Let's have a look. It is Stephen

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Fry. APPLAUSE

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Did you spot them earlier. Did you get that right? I knew that was

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Stephen Fry. Do you recognise these knobbly

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knees? This image is from a die hard actor's first TV Novembery in 1978.

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-- TV movie in 1978. It is Bruce Willis.

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It is not. He was clean shaven in Love Actually and Harry Potter. Who

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do you think it is? Oh Potter. AlanRicman.

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-- Alan Rickman. We have two pairs of legs for you,

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Philippa. Your clues are. These comedy brothers probably flogged a

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few pair of tights. They often found themselves in a tight spot and they

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drank in the Nag's Head. He David sayson and the other one is

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the other one! APPLAUSE

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Have weigh got time for is a decider? -- have we got time for is

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a decider? Thank you. The Conversation is out now. What a

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wonderful conversation we had. You can see Macbeth in Manchester

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