05/09/2012 The One Show

Hello. Welcome to your Wednesday hour-long edition of the One Show.

Tonight a full house of One Show viewers and game makers who will be

sharing their thoughts on some of the stories we will be covering

this evening. It is a full house! We have also

got Carrie Grant on stand-by to give a well-deserved treat to a man

who has been a stalwart in his community for years.

We will be meeting Paralympic archers Danielle Brown and Mel

Clarke, who are here to show off their medals.

Also, John Sergeant is about to blow a fuse over the end of the

light bub. Me and him both. Our guest tonight, she has a list as

long as your arm of block busting titles to her name. Harry Potter,

Nanny McPhee. The list is endless. She is the only person ever to win

an Oscar for writing and acting. It's Emma Thompson. It's lovely to

have you with us. Thank you I just love the idea of describing

Howard's end as a blockbuster. have to say, you look absolutely

gorgeous, with earrings to match the theme of the new book.

indeed. Do you want me to tell you now? I have written a book you see.

A new Peter Rabbit book. He is 110. This is it. The dress, which you

might have worried about, because who wears a big kilt on The One

Show, it is the inside of the book you see. It is the same, tartan. It

is designed for Peter. I went into a jewellery shop and saw some very

interesting fruits and I asked the jewellery maker if she would make

me a radish and a carrot, which she has. Which is great, but the only

thing is when I take the book to read to children, they become so

engrossed with the earrings, that they don't listen to the book. I

have to take them off. But they are amazing. It is happening now.

Everyone has been saying let me touch your earrings. Can I touch it.

This is a big part of the story of how it all came about. The radish

is intrinsic to the meaning and depth of the story. It is very

radish-centred. I got this extraordinary, I got a little

little parcel, it was two years ago, and I got a little parcel wrapped

in brown paiper and string, which of course would appeal to my

Victorian side. It was this. I brought it in to show you. There is

a half eaten radish leaf on the top. Inside, the original is not there

but inside was a small coat, belonging to someone that I knew

well. I thought my God it's his coat. Then there was this, a bit of

radish leaf with some radish left on it and saying for the attention

of Miss Emma Thompson hand delivered by Benjamin bunny he is

quir. Inside was a letter my Paul, a letter from Peter to write a new

book. You accepted? Of course. If they had said from the publishers,

I would say don't be so ridiculous, Bearix Potter has a genius. But

because the child part of me thought this is from Peter Rabbit,

this is actually from him, I really believed it, so I wrote back to him.

So all the correspondence about the book has been between me and Peter.

Has he ever been fazed out of the process. I pushed him out when the

numbers went up and then I thought that's cruel. He only wants paid in

radishes anyway. We will find out more about the whole process later.

First up, the latest in our films about people who faced life

changing decisions. Unlike some of the others, One Show viewer Lucy

Gale had almost no time to weigh up her options. When you are watching

this, ask yourself the question, would you have done the same thing?

Two years ago I came across an accident on this level crossing.

Two cars crashed, one was on the track and a a train was coming and

I made my big decision to do something about it. Lucy lives in a

small village in Yorkshire, with her partner Doug and 14-year-old

daughter Rebecca. Two years ago she was work can as a local taxi driver

and one evening in May was taking a regular passenger home, when she

came to a level crossing. Tell me about the particular day of the

incident. As we got towards the level crossing, the lights were

flashing. Meaning a train was approaching. Yes and the barrier

was down and I could see there had been an accident and a car had been

pushed towards the tracks. I just got out of my car and went to help.

The driver of the car on the tracks was pensioner Mary. She had been

waiting at the lights at the level crossing when another vehicle hit

her from behind, pushing her car on to the track. I need today get her

out. She was really, really shocked. Her eyes were wide and she was

shaking. With no time to spare, Lucy made her instinctive big

decision. As she was struggling to free the injured pensioner from the

car, a freight train carrying thousands of tonnes of coal was

hurtling down the line less than two minutes away and heading

straight for them. I needed help. She never hesitated. She didn't sit

back in her car and think it might be dangerous, there is a train

coming. She did none of that. She ran into the situation and she

helped me out. Thanks to Lucy Mary was now safe, but her car was still

on the tracks in the direct path of the freight train now about 40

seconds away. The train driver had applied his emergency brakes and

signalled his horn but the momentum of the train was too great. It was

going to hit the car. So Lucy went back on the track. The worst moment

was getting back into the car to move the car off the track and

looking down the track and seeing the train coming. When I got in, my

feet physically couldn't get to the pedals, the seat was too far

forward. I was fiddling around trying to find a lever in a strange

car that you have never driven before in such a high pressure

situation, with the train coming. That was the scariest moment. I

could still remember the driver waving his arms in the window of

the train. That is how close he was. I could see him waving his arms.

Everybody says what did you think when you could see the train coming.

I don't remember being being scared. I just remember thinking this has

got to be daub. Lucy managed to drive Mary's car off the track just

moments before the train passed. The second the train went past what

was your immediate reaction. Everybody is safe, that is the main

thing. Everybody is safe. You had 60 seconds to move a strange car?

Yes, move a seat, get it into gear. What was it like when the train

rushed by? It feels like the air is rushing flew your ears. What made

you do it It was instinct, human nature to need to help. You see

somebody needs help, you do it. Lucy went straight back to driving

her taxi but it wasn't long before the significance of her actions hit

home. If Lucy hadn't been here that day and done what she z what might

have happened? Potentially averted quite a major crash. We have

tankers, electrical pylons there, can you see there is a small

station, it was a passenger train waiting to come out, there was a

freight train coming through. If that train had struck the cars it

would have ploughed through and reached that passenger trained.

told her on the day she was my guardian angel who just appeared

and possibly I still feel that. is your guardian angel? Yes.

never lost any sleep from what I did. Had I sat back and watched it

unfold, I would never have slept again.

Lucy is with us here in the studio to talk more. You have won awards

after this, you have changed so many people's lives by the actions

you had. Has it changed your life? Has it changed my life, it has

changed by behaviour, but it's not changed my life. I have had some

brilliant experiences from it. still work as a taxi driver, so

when you get to a crossing then, how does your behaviour differ?

Before, because I live in an area where there are freight trains, you

can be waiting up to ten minutes if there is two going to go, before it

was an inconvenience to sit and wait and I used to sit with my foot

on the brake and huff and puff, like you do. Now I put my hand

brake on and I sit and wait. It's not worth it. Do you ever mention

to passengers when you have them in the car, you will never believe

what happened here? No, never. about the passenger you had with

you at the time? Mr HOLMES. I have seen her since and we discussed it

on our way to the airn and she just said I got into a bit of trouble

for getting her home late. After all that? She said her husband

forgiven me now and would allow me to take her back to the airport.

have Matt from Network Rail. You wouldn't advise people to take the

same action? Of course, it was an incredibly brave act, but we

wouldn't advise people to do that. We would advise people to get on

and off level crossings as safely as possible. You end up with quite

a few people on the railway lines not in heroic situations. We have

incredible CCTV footage here. Obviously, you can see the red

light and the lady is choosing with a pram to cross in front of a train

while there is a red warning light telling her not to cross. She

believes that is wosht taking that What happened to that guy? I think,

the train clips his leg and knocks his shoe off. He's vaulted the

barrier there, he broke his leg, he later checked into A&E. There isn't

a barrier in this next footage. Look at that! This is a very, very

near miss. What is the situation of barriers and level crossings then?

98% of crossings, in fact, we have nearly 7,000 crossings, only 116 of

those don't have barriers. They have been assessed as being low

risk crossings. There might be one or two trains per day, low speed

trains, very little traffic there. But we have a project at the moment

to install barriers at crossings like that. We have had a trial in

Scotland, where we have put a barrier on what was an open

crossing. Network Rail have been criticised a lot for not, people

saying they are not doing enough to help people's safety. There is two

issues here and the first is, we have now got a business change

programme, a huge transformation programme. We are investing �130

million over the next 18 months in improving safety. That includes a

whole new operating regime for risk management. At the moment we are

recruiting 100 level crossing managers through England, Scotland

and Wales. We have improved training, processes and alongside

that we have a huge safety enhancement programme that looks

like innovation, technology, enforcement cameras at level

crossings. And education campaigns. We have launched a campaign called

lose your head phones. We are doing a huge amount. We have the safest

level crossings in Europe. Another viewer that we want to celebrate

tonight is Frank Kennington from Grimsby, who has been ringing the

bells at his local church since he was 12 years ol. Since his

retirment, frank has had to ring in a few changes as Carrie Grant has

been finding out. Bell ringing has been my life, but

it is a very sad day today. I am as fit as a 78-year-old can be but

those stairs, they take the wind out of your sail. For the past 67

years the people of Grimsby have heard Frank's bell ringing around

the town during some of the most significant moments of their lives.

Chrissenings, weddings and funerals. Frank rang for my wedding. What did

that mean to you? Everything. Because that was Frank. Frank's

retirement marks the end of an era for his family, the Kenningtons who

have rung the bells here for over 100 years. Frank was introduced to

bell ringing at 12 by his father who showed him the ropes on 8th May

1945. From that day on his life would be dedicated to the bells of

the church. It was full of joy, the end of the war, everybody was happy.

There was my mother, my sister, two brothers. We all came up the Belfry.

All along these walls are boards and the name Kennington appears an

awful lot. This one is from 1905. Charles Kennington, that was my

father. Johnny Kennington was his brother, my uncle. That is 107

years ago. Before my time! Certainly is. How important has it

been for you to continue the legacy? I have no family of my own

as such of the. The only family I have are nieces and nephews. There

are so many other attractions these day. I am the last one of the

Kennington dynasty. Frank has always been keen to pass on his

passion. So I thought I would give Don't be in a hurry. I dropped it,

but not bad for a beginner. You have been married for 54 years.

Does it feel like you have been married to the bells? The previous

rector here said he had heard of golf widows but he knew that I was

a bell ringing widow. How hard was the decision to retire for Frank?

Sundays are very difficult, because I can tell that he is grieving that

he is not up there. He is worrying about his bells, they are his bells.

I know better than stressed that we come into town on a Sunday. Why is

that?. I think it would upset him to hear them ringing. You must feel

immense pride? I have become very proud of him. I sthi that's mainly

because there's only me really knows the commitment that he's made.

A lifetime of bell ringing. Let's go over to Carrie of news of a

special treat. You are up to something, aren't you? I certainly

am. Welcome to St James Garlickhythe in London and the

location of the royal Jubilee bells. Which were cast especially for the

Queen's Diamond Jubilee celebrations. A couple of weeks ago

Frank was reading a magazine and read about these bells. Little did

he know two weeks later he would be here in London ringing them live to

the nation. It is an exciting evening. This place was destroyed

in the great fire of 1666. Then rebuilt in 1683 by Sir Christopher

Wren. It is sometimes nicknamed Wren's lantern because of the way

the light light shines through the windows. It has the highest ceiling

of any of the London city churches. Bell ring something

quintessentially English. We have been doing it for 400 years. It It

seems right we used it as part of the Queen's diamond celebrations.

The lead lead barge had a Belfry built on to it. Inside were housed

eight bells. All of those bells named after members of the Royal

Family and bell ringing on the Thames had never been attempted

before. They had to hand pick the bell ringers very carefully. It was

an incredible feat. The bells went from that barge and are now

permanently housed here at St James here in Garlickhythe. Frank tonight

is going to be playing them, ringing them live to the nation.

More of that later. It's going to be very special. Emma,

you have written The Further Tale of Peter Rabbit. How have you taken

the story onwards from the original? I thought about it and I

thought if he wants a further tale perhaps I should take him away from

the garden and I was in Scotland when I was writing it and Bearix

Potter loved Scotland. She's very interesting, she is the original

bunny boiler, you do know that don't you. She was not soppy about

animals at all and kept rabbits and knew them well and named them and

then when they died would boil them and separate them out and sort out

their bones. So So that is one of the things that attracted me to it.

You don't include that in the in the book? No. Funnily enough I left

that out. There I was in Scotland and I thought Mr and Mrs MacGregor

could be Scottish and maybe Peter accidentally gets into a bit of

luggage and ends up in Scotland. That is what I did. I took him up

north. Would you read some for us? Yes Yes, absolutely. All sitting

comfortably. He's gone to Scotland and he's met his cousin who is a

big black rabbit called Finlay and he is defending his title at the

highland games. He is this huge very big rabbit and Peter is

watching him throw these things and then he gets bored because he has

strong passions. He goes off and he finds a bit of will low fencing and

it goes there, protected by will low fencing lay an unusually large

radish. We have the pictures on the big

screen. It must have measured three rabbits round. It also smelt

delicious and Peter was very hungry. He thought no-one would notice if

he took a little nibble off the end. Accordingly, he scratched his way

under the willow fence and took a bite and then another and another.

By the time Peter had stopped eating, he was inside the radish.

Feeling cosy, he fell asleep. When he woke up the radish was jogling.

Not again thought Peter. APPLAUSE

Is this something you are going to continue on with, now you have

started this relationship with Peter? Well, yes. He has asked me

to write another one, so I started that this summer. I went up to The

Lakes to visit Bearix Potter's old homes. She is an extraordinary

woman because she bought most of the Lake District and saved it from

development. I went to one of her first farms Hilltop Farm and made a

new friend there, who is going to appear in the new book, who is

called William, whose exact nature I am going to keep under wraps for

the moment. Everyone knows that the baddie in Peter Rabbit is of course

Farmer McGregor. Incredibly we have found a farmer in Scotland with

that exact name. You went looking for the enemy. Not only that, he is

standing by to talk to you via Skype.

From Coldstream Mains in Berwickshire. Do you like rabbits,

Colin? I haven't tasted rabbit pie but I can see after this, I am

going to have to try it. Association Rabbits aren't really

that welcome on your farm? really. They can do a lot of damage.

Six rabbits can eat as much as one sheep. They don't eat sheep, do

they, rabbits? We are not big fans of rabbits. Having said that Emma,

they do have a big connection with Bearix Potter because isn't it

right that Beatrix herself has stayed on the land of your farm?

That is right. We discovered recently that, we are farmers here

on Lenel estate, she actually stayed here in 1894 on Lennel House

and so she is known in the area. After seeing Colin's face there,

will you write about farmer ma Gregor in a different light now?

You are much better without the side burns. You are in your office

there and you have a picture behind you, who is in that picture? Yes,

my wife, we were at the farmers weekly awards and it was my wife's

computer. There is a picture of Matt with Jill. All the best Colin.

Lots of love to Jill. Our gardening expert Christine has

managed to grow a long list of famous personalities who invited

her over to have a look around their gardens. Tonight she turns

her attention to Maureen Lipman's back yards. When the time comes to

move home, there is one thing the removal men can't get on the van,

your garden. For most people it is starting all over again. Eight

years ago Maureen Lipman lost her husband, the screen writer jack

rosen that will. The family home began to feel too big so she moved

from the house to a flat and from big garden to, well, let her

explain. I have been here nearly five years. I moved from the big

family family house where Jack and I brought up the children with a

beautiful big garden, a phone box, a post box, a shed to play house in,

and I have come here and this is my little girl flat. You can smell the

fragrance from the jasmines. You have two, this is the false jasmine.

It's like a jasmine and then you have the proper jasmine.

What was the most difficult part of downsizing? Out with the Mahogany

and in with the clean minimalistic lines and that lasted for about 12

seconds. Don't throw that away, oh no, I can't because that was the

time when we... So it's about as minimalistic as I am. Of course

there are things in the garden that remind Maureen of Jack. That is

Jack's rose climbing up the walls. What is with this plaque? That is a

rhinoceros. He needs to be freed. Jack used to collect rhinoceros. I

have I haveen 18 in the flat. My bedroom looks ought on to this

courtyard, so I could sit in bed and watch the birds. I went to the

garden centre and bought worms and fat balls and wild bird food and

all sorts of bird food, not a bird since. Never mind the birds, plants

and small shrubs fill this courtyard like a haven of

tranquility. So we have this tropical lush paradise, but in the

other courtyard, nothing grows. Nothing at all. You will see why in

a minute. It is the beast of W 2. This is warren. Warren is

responsible for this carnage. will eat almost anything that's

below his own height. Of course. is a dear fellow. What could I

plant in here that would be Warren proof. Standard trees and you would

have to put a rabbit guard round the stem. You mean like an oak.

a tree on the clear stem, can be anything from three foot to however,

but if you had a nice fuchsia and standard roses, only this height,

so the the vegetation would be out of the way. Fortunately Warren

never gets near the main courtyard garden where a lovely green curtain

envelopes this place. It is what Maureen had hoped for. I wanted d

to enclose me. That is the big thing, I am on my own and it feels

safe. Now I feel a bit more like the air has come into me and I am

not grieving so much, or just wanting to be in my own word, I am

back in the world and life goes on. I think this garden is very you.

you? I must have done something right, as they say in the song.

In honour of Emma's book, we have brought lots of rabbit-loving

viewers into the studio. They would like to show off their rabbits. You

have started a business. Yes. us an idea. Who is this? He is enor

husband. This is Bruno, a continental giant. How does he fit

into your empire? We have continental giants, mini lops,

dwarfs. Did this come from a love of Bearix Potter? Yes, I like

rabbits, I used to have loads of rabbits when I was younger. I have

had good experience with them. I was read the Bearix Potter books

when I was younger. He is a very gentle soul. Bruno is absolutely

lovely but Emma and I are in love with these two. Richard and Sally

and we have Arty and Galaxy. These are aning gor ra rabbits. Yes.

Angora. Are you showing Galaxy at the minute? I am about to. You are

showing Arty. I am, yes. What makes a good Angora? They should be well-

behaved. Which they are. Two, they should have a long coat, which Arty

has. They should have a really good texture, they should feel like silk.

He's lovely. Most importantly, they should have nice tufts on their

ears and look like a little snow ball. We hear you are called the

rabbit man. I am known by many as either a bunny boy or rabbit man.

think the Angora goes well with your dress. The reason the rabbit

is shaking is because I have been talking about making into some sort

of stole. I don't mean it. This Polish rabbit, it is actually

native breed. One of our few English breeds. We have had them

around since 1880. They are well establish indeed this country. They

have their own club. We nurture them. You have 250 of these?

several species, but yes I do have that many. Hutch cleaning must be

brilliant fun. If anybody wants to help... Do you spend your entire

life shovelling sawdust? Shovelling something, yes!

I have to ask, why do you keep picking it up? Because on his own

he will probably sit down. He likes to know you are there. He has been

trained to kill, you know that. They are a long way from Peter

Rabbit. As well as Peter Peter Rabbit another character who has

delighted children is nanny McPhee. When you need me but do not want me,

I must day. When you want me but no longer needly, I must go. It's

rather sad really, but there it is. We will never want you. Then I will

never go. Is it true, did it take you seven years to write Nanny

McPhee? From door-to-door, from the moment I put pen to paper, it was

nine years actually. It took a long time to develop. It is curious

which is why I have so much respect for Potter. They seem very simple,

they should seem very simple but should go very deep. It takes a

long, long time. To work out what the story is, how to -- I don't

know why it takes so long. The second one was five years, a bit

less. On the nanny theme with Tom Hanks, is it right you are starring

in a movie about the writer of Mary pop pinss? It is most odd because

dad writing The Magic Roundabout and me writing Nanny McPhee and

being asked to write this and one of PLTravers heroines was Bearix

Potter. PL Travers, said she didn't write for children, she wrote to

please herself. Bearix Potter was quite grumpy with children who came

into her garden. It is a particular creativity. The film is about Walt

Disney and PL Travers and their relationship. It was very

belligerent. She was passionate about, she was family in the same

way Mickey Mouse was Walt Disney's family, but they created these

characters to get them away from the torture of their own child

childhoods which were very difficult. It is a film about how

artists are using their art to heal themselves from very painful

experiences when they are little. Staying on the children's theme,

you are working on a brand new remake of Annie, which we are

really excited about, with Jay Z and willow Smith. What stage are

you at? It's still script work and music work. They keep saying we

will make it next year, and that might happen. It will be in the

autumn, but that's been in the works for a year and a bit, because

I wrote it last summer. You have plenty on your plate. Yes. Earlier

we met Frank Kennington who has been ringing bells for 70 years in

his local church. Frank had to retire because his knees couldn't

take the qulim the climb of 69 steps to the bell tower. His story

chimed with us sob tonight we thought we would arrange for him to

ring the royal Jubilee bells live at the end of tonight's show. All

along Frank's wife has been keeping this a secret from him. We have

managed to surprise her. After we found out she's absolutely bonkers

about Matt. A very good afternoon. How are you

doing? How lovely to see you Maureen. Fine thank you. This is my

surprise. I was wondering what would your reaction be if we told

you we have organised for you to ring the the royal Jubilee bells?

We would love it if you would ring them tonight live on the show for

us? Sure! You would do it for us? Yes. Isn't that lovely.

He was shell-shocked. We have word Frank and Maureen have arrived so

we will go over to Carrie Grant and her welcoming party of bell ringers.

I don't know who is more excited Maureen for Frank because Maureen

was very excited about meeting Matt. They have come all the way down

The Roland ringers have been laid on for Frank. The red carpet no

less. Maureen come on down.

What do you reckon to all of this? Amazing, to say the least.

weren't expecting this yesterday when we were in Grimsby. What does

it mean to you to be able to play with the royal bell ringers and

with these bells? It means quite a lot. These are the experts. You are

not going to be shown up. He was talking about this yesterday.

was. This afternoon when they told him he was almost in tears. Let's

get you in, up the stairs for live tonight bell ringing.

A man of few words but full of emotion. Yesterday we saw the first

part of John Sergeant's trip around the sea loches of west Scotland

where he met fisherman and sailed The sea loches of the west coast of

Scotland for an amateur sailor like me. Today I am exploring the

stretch of water between the mainland and the wildly beautiful

Isle of Skye, with a good boat, dramatic scenery and today the

sunshine, what more could you want. My journey starts with a sail past

probably the most scenic castle in Scotland. What a magnificent site.

There has been a castle here since the 13th century. If it looks

familiar, that is because it is. It's been used in television and

films, including highlander and the Bond movie The World is Not Enough.

But time heading for a relatively new landmark in the Scottish

landscape. The Skye Bridge. Sailing beneath the 500 metre

Longbridge is a real treat. But when it opened in 1995, it was

immediately mired in controversy. The link from the island to the

mainland carried a toll of over �10 for a return crossing. And the

islanders protested. A lot of people on the island have criminal

records because they refused to pay, so to this day they have a criminal

record. The campaign was ultimately successful and the bridge is now

toll free. We are part of the mainland, some people would feel

I like gliding screenly along the calm surface of the loch, but there

is a chance to get a glimpse below and is keep your feet dry in a

On deck the seals are popular and I am heading six miles to the north,

to a village which lives up to its guide book description, uncommonly

picture echbleing. -- picturesque. These windless conditions won't do

for a serious sailor, but I just like to enjoy the way the evening

light plays across the seascape. No wonder this is a big draw for

artists and photographers. Miriam came to Plocton 11 years ago and

stayed. She runs drawing and painting classes and is even

prepared to find hidden talent in me. It is a west coast village

facing east so we get light shining in on us, water all the way round.

In the summer we have light at strange times. What time is it now?

It's nearly 10.00. It is very strange. You only have about four

hours of darkness. We hardly have any darkness tonight. We have got

to reproduce this. You are asking me to do this. But just try to see

the blocks of colour, don't worry about it being the right colour,

just keep looking at it, rather than looking at your page. Forget

what you are doing, trust your hands. Look at the sea. You are

getting it right and I am getting it wrong. There is no right or

wrong. It is like dancing, you just enjoy it. I know a bit about that.

Mine looks like a child's activity pad. Hasn't it made you look more

at what you are seeing. It changes your vision. I agree with that. To

be honest, you don't have to look very hard to find beauty in a place

like this. John, that was a beautiful setting. Fantastic. The

weather of course held perfectly. When I went on my normal sailing

holiday, poured with rain, gales in the Westcountry. It is an area you

are fond of as well. That is where I wrote the book. We could have met

up Emma. I was working. Working hard! What's coming up tomorrow?.

We go further north and we meet a community that can only be reached

by boat. It is really interesting. It is a terrific area. I have been

looking forward to our next story because I can't stand energy saving

light bulbs. Last week the traditional 40 40 Watt light bulb

was consigned to the history books. I am incandesceent. You have a

store?. Not a little store, but just enough. I don't want people

running around thinking I have got them all. I have the rest of them.

There is a loophole. We are not allowed to have them because they

are meant to be not saving energy but they do have them for

industrial use. If you go to a shop, which I did in West London,

specialist shop, they are called rough service bulbs. It is not

against the law. And they are the industrial ones. They work just

like the old ones and you can be happy forever. You are feeling

around in the dark for what feels like hours when you switch on.

is a cold light. You can't see and feel you feel cold. What's to like,

nothing. Would you rather write to a candle I do sometimes, we get a

lot of power cuts in our area. These will be contraband and they

will be precious items. You can't get lamp shades to fit over these.

They make dimmer switches blow. Is there much of a difference between

the energy saving bulbs and this one? I can hear people screaming at

the TV. How do you feel about these new energy saving light bulbs? A

lot of people are telling me they're not that keen. But I want

to know if they can really tell the difference between the new ones and

the old ones. I am rigging up a cunning spemplt

to test -- experiment to remain those who need to be convinced by

energy saving bulbs. It is a national debate that gets people

hot under the collar, nowhere more so than here at the Shropshire star

newspaper. Journalist Karl wrote that energy saving bulbs were still

too dim and ugly. It went berserk. It was the most

commented on article last year. People were saying thank goodness

someone else has voiced this. I am not against eco-friendly light

bulbs, but when I want a reading light or when I want a light at the

top of my stairs that becomes bright quickly, I have yet to find

an equivalent to the old-fashioned ones. Time to put them to the test.

Can they tell their traditional bulbs from their low energy

lighting. I have arranged four identical lamps but can they pick

out the traditional 40 Watt bulb? That is a halogen bulb, 30% more

efficient than an old-fashioned bulb?

BulbB, it is the old inefficient one. I am not going to decide until

the end. Bulb C.

. The LED is the longest lasting and most efficient of the bunch.

This is the least appealing light of the three. Bulb D.

That is the compact fluorescent, couragely the most common energy

saving bulb. I wouldn't like to read with that light over me.

Before we let the guys know the results, I want to know more about

the current crob of energy-saving bulbs. What is wrong with these old

style bulbs? This bulb, 90% of the energy is wasted in heat. They are

very inefficient. But what about the new ones. People say the bulbs

are too dim, they don't like the colour. They are coming from the

earlier generation of bulbs. Things have moved on hugely. You could

light your whole house with 200 watts. Our compact fluorescent cost

�2 more than a digsal -- traditional bulb. Which one do you

think is the old style bulb? Bulb B is the correct answer.

Karl has got it wrong. Why did you go for B as the old style.

thought it was brighter. I thought the light was whiter and sharper.

The old was bulb B. Karl, how do you feel about that?

7% of the people who opposed me on the website are probably cheering.

Bulb A and bulb B were the best two. I thought it was a clearer light

bulb A. Maybe I need to change my bulb supply. It would be wrong to

draw too many conclusions from our unscientific experiment but it

seems the debate looks set to shine on. With some people clinging on to

the old bulbs, it will be sometime until they are finally switched on

for good. The debate has been going on and on. We have games makers

Adam and Nathan. You have some strong views, you are divided.

are twins. Your feelings are very similar but what are your thoughts?

It is a constant source of conflict in the house. I am against them. I

am against these ecobulbs. They are so dim. In the morning I need to

make up and they take ages to warm up. I need to wake up in the

morning. They are just too dim. am for them and they last longer.

You are saving money. You save energy, saving the world, bulb at a

time. They are difficult to dispose of as well. We should get you back

on next Wednesday. The GB Paralympic archers Danielle Brown

and Mel Clarke join us now. This is you on the front of the

Times. A beautiful photo. How many copies of this have you bought

today?. We got one each. It's a beautiful shot. Good nails.

Fantastic nails. That picture is very, very beautiful. How does it

feel to be front page of the national newspaper?. It is

incredible. I am overwhelmed with the amount of coverage we have had.

When I won a gold in Beijing and I did two interviews that night and I

have not stopped doing interviews since yesterday afternoon. To be on

the front page of the Times is incredible. During the competition,

you two were going head to head really until the last minute. How

tough was that then? It was really tough, to meet any opponent in a

medal match, but to have a Brit tlrks we knew we were going to have

a gold and silver and it was who was going to keep the nerve. It is

down to the fact it is a home Games but what do you put the difference

down to? It was a fantastic experience, and it was just great

being able to perform in front of my friends and my family, my

personal coach and everyone who supported me on my journey. It's

been a long and hard journey getting here. You are incredibly

young. One of team-mates turned 64 so. The brilliant thing about the

Paralympics, is that we have all learnt so much about different

sports. Things we have never heard about before. But saying there are

some people out there who think I fancy giving archery a go, how do

you sport, because they are things that aren't mainstream. Doing an

internet search and finding out about your local club. I know there

are new initiatives about doing archery in schools. You can lean

towards the sporty type, we have a great shot of you playing volley

ball. Oh, God. It's you in your new film.

Over the summer you were doing a romcom. I was rubbish, I am so bad.

I bought my husband an archery set, that sounds sad, but not a little

thirntion but I bought him that heavy thing and the thing, it's so

hard, but the the thrill of it going, that noise that it makes

when it goes in, it's fantastic. The trajectory of it, I was hitting

lights and everything, it's hard. It is really hard work out how to...

We have good news. We have the volley ball picture.

They are my own teeth. Paralympic medal board is filling up thick and

fast with ten more medals added today. Great Britain are still in

second place. The moment has come for our unsung

hero Frank Kennington to ring the royal Jubilee Bells live in front

of millions. We have come up a lot of steps to

the ringing room here. I want to ask Frank, what does it mean to you

to be about to ring these special bells? Absolutely fantastic. I

never thought anything would like this would happen. It is happening

What does that mean to you seeing Frank? It makes me feel very

emotional. I never thought I would be near to tears, but I am. He has

a big smile on his face. I don't want to turn round, if I see him

again, I will probably burst into tears. He's had a wonderful time

coming up here. APPLAUSE

A lovely way to end the programme. That is all we have time for.

Thanks to our wonderful audience tonight. You have been brilliant.

Good luck to all the athletes competing in the road cycling and