06/02/2017 The One Show

Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker. And Michelle

Ackerley. Tonight's show is unbelievable in the best possible

way. We will meet the detective who refused to believe a mother who

claimed her daughter had been kidnapped. And the explorers whose

epic trek across Antarctica defies belief. We have the pictures to

prove it. Our guest is the host of a special one-off panel show all about

fake news, so we are not sure we can believe anything he says. It's

Stephen Mangan. It's on in an hour's time. At eight o'clock on Channel

four. We will talk about fake news later, but you said it isn't

necessarily a new thing. Various conspiracy theories for years. What

happened to Marilyn Monroe? Who killed JFK? Were the moon landings

faked? The Loch Ness Monster. The moon landings, I think they did

happen, didn't they? Must have done. It is not new. What is new, now we

have the internet and people can spread these stories so quickly. We

used to get all our news from the BBC and radio and newspapers, now

with computers, enough people are interested and it spreads across the

globe. We will talk about the new show. Believe it or not, more people

have walked on the moon than have crossed Antarctica on foot.

Yesterday, five Brits returning home to Heathrow having achieved that

amazing feat, Andy had to be there to welcome them. In November 2016, a

team of six British Army reservists went to the edge of Antarctica. The

mission to trek coast-to-coast to raise money for the soldiers

charity. A gorgeous, cold, windy evening. On the Antarctic plateau.

But this was no ordinary trek. These Army reservists did it without any

external support. The team had to the supplies and equipment on

sledgers without the use of dogs or motorised equipment. The distance

covered was vast. The team skied from the edge of the continent to

the geographic South Pole. Then continued to the other side of the

Antarctic, making the entire journey 1100 miles. So I am at Heathrow

Airport to put the team as they return to the UK and to be reunited

with their friends and family for the first time in more than three

months. When he first told you he was going

to attempt this, what was your reaction? Yeah, I thought he was

mad, but it has been brilliant. They are legends. Have you rehearsed what

to say to him when he comes through? I have a list of jobs at home that

he needs to do! Did you have any means of communicating with them in

any way? No. You could dial the phone? I didn't know the number! I

have brought a little present for belief. It's a pair of pants,

because they only took a pair of pants away with them. -- a little

present for only. Finally, here they come, having flown in from chile, to

touch back down in the UK. What does normality feel like now? It's been a

bit of a whirlwind, an epic time. Coming back is just brilliant. What

did you miss and pray for? I was daydreaming about curry and stakes!

The most experienced Antarctica man was low. -- Lou. The guys had very

little experience of the weather, so some training in Norway. For them to

complete the most difficult journey, they did absolutely amazing. What

was the toughest moment? On the second leg, when we left the Poll, I

got frostbite on my cheek and my nose, my lips and the inside of my

mouth. I couldn't eat. I was still going out in -50 degrees, with a

frostbitten face that I could not be much to treat. Was the altitude a

problem, with breathing? We started at sea level and finished at sea

level, but we went up to 11,000 feet. As you got close to the poll,

you felt more breathless. You might have noticed only five of the team

are here, because the sixth member, Alan George, had to return home

after getting to the halfway point at the South Pole. What was wrong

with him by the time you arrived at the South Pole? He had lost a huge

amount of body weight, some muscle mass, so he was quite weak. It was

deemed unsafe. It sounds like starvation? It almost was.

Malnourished, because we were burning 10,000 calories a day. There

was less going in than you were expending. A remarkable achievement

by a bunch of lads with no previous experience of the most hostile place

on earth. Absolutely amazing. Those guys... I

hope they are enjoying the curry and steak! Thank you to Andy and the

guys from Spear 17. Amazing. This must bring back painful memories for

you, Stephen, because you played an explorer going to the North Pole.

The process was pretty arduous. We shot it in Greenland, in the Arctic

Circle. It was -13, we were taken to the set by sledges pulled by

Huskies. A guy behind us with a rifle in case a polar bear attacked.

The wind chill, when you are talking and trying to do lines in those

conditions, the jaw just freezes. It was supposed to be the North Pole,

so we filmed on the frozen ocean. Stunning. What a stunning place.

Thankfully you are a lot warmer with your new show, fake news. Tell us

about it. It is such a big phenomenon at the moment. You can't

turn on the TV, read a newspaper, without hearing another story that

might be true, might not be true. The American election was full of

stories that seemed to influence people in a huge way. There was a

child abuse ring operating in a basement of a pizza restaurant that

Hillary Clinton was involved in... The restaurant doesn't even have a

basement. A guy got an assault rifle and drove 200 miles and was about to

start shooting people. The Power of them is extraordinary. We have a

picture of the team you are working with. It is a one-off show. A new

idea. What kind of format? The rounds you are playing? We wanted as

much discussion as possible about the funny side and the interesting

side. We kicked off by trying to get people to create their own fake

news. The panellists? We shot it yesterday, last week we set out some

story that wasn't true. I try to pretend I was going to be the new

Doctor Who! It sunk like a stone, it was hopeless. Catherine had a story

that she had had a botched Brazilian bum lift, and the story was picked

up and ran in the Sun, the Mirror, the Mail. The newspapers ran her PR.

They printed it anyway because she wasn't in. She had to come out later

and say it was not true. What about Richard Osman? We will show

everybody at home. Exciting news that Kanye West was going to be on

Pointless Celebrities. The last week, the press office has

literally been inundated with people from America asking for comment

about Kanye coming on. His people came on to us and said, I don't know

where you have got this from, but Kanye is unavailable. However, P

Diddy would be available... It would be great to have him,

wouldn't it? And you have a Sean Spicer round, the press spokesman

for Donald Trump. How does that work? I don't know whether to feel

sorry for Sean Spicer. He is a bit clueless. He has been sent out to

front up all these stories and sometimes he is trying to convince

us that two and two is five. You could clearly see there weren't as

many people at the inauguration pictures but he said it's the

biggest crowd ever in person and around the globe... The journalists

went, what? It is becoming a thing. We had a round where people had to

try and spin it in such a way, so we had them doing the Battle of

Hastings, trying to pretend the British did win after all, and the

Titanic, trying to sell it as a positive news story that the ship

had gone down. We were doing a bit of research, as we do with our

guests. We want to give viewers the opportunity to find out whether or

not the stories of real or fake. Back in the 90s, did you have a band

called Aragon? I did. Man! We recorded on album called the

Wizard's Dream. I was the keyboard player, two keyboards, one there,

one there. And some kind of altercation with Robert De Niro? I

was at a screening in New York. Robert De Niro was there and I

thought, how many times will I get the chance to meet Robert De Niro? I

was incredibly nervous, I've summoned up my courage and I walked

over and I said, hello, I'm Robert De Niro. My brain just when... --

went... And a more gentle one. Have you ever completed a triathlon? I

have. So no doubt you will be aware of the Brownlee brothers. When they

came onto the One Show in 2013, we set Alastair Angie this competitive

challenge to see how competitive they are. The housework challenge.

-- Alastair and Jonny. Swimming, cycling, running. The

triathlon takes no prisoners. But in 2016, we made history, becoming the

first British brothers to win gold and silver at the same Olympic

event. But our journey to the top started here. This is forced both,

just outside Leeds. -- Horsforth. Every triathlon starts with 1500

metres of swimming. We first get out of in the water just two miles up

the road at this leisure Centre. -- we first dipped our toes in the

water. My proudest achievement to hold this record. Nine years old,

the 25 metre backstroke. 18.61. It hasn't been updated since December

2013, so maybe someone has gone faster more recently. I very much

doubt it! When I was swimming here, was more interested in going home

with as many medals as I could, and sweets after training, than I was

about the Olympics. When the Olympics was announced in 2005, for

London, about seven years before it happened, even then I thought the

Olympics was a long way from where I was. It was almost a bit irrelevant

really. When you come out of the water, it's straight onto the bikes

for a gruelling 40 kilometre ride. Luckily, Horsforth has its own

cycling expert. Adam's know-how pushed us to the next level. I got

my first proper bike for Christmas, the blue beast. You killed every

bike as I remember! I spent more time working on yours than everybody

else's put together. Tough athletes, cyclists in particular, where I came

from. Most of the top guys in the last decade have come from around

here. It's the rules, isn't it? It will make you or break you. I

remember growing out in a group of five or six, the youngest one, and

hanging on. One of the hardest things I have ever done in my life.

The final ten kilometre run is the toughest test for any triathlete.

But we had the ideal training ground on our doorstep. We train for 35

hours a week, we train hard. It is pretty much a full-time job when you

add up the physio, the stretching, the gym work on top of it. Does it

feel like a job? Definitely not. It is the best job in the world. The

great thing, will on the outskirts of Leeds, all of the facilities we

need to train. The Yorkshire Dales, and I think it's very important for

us, a lock of the training has been outside, waste on being active. -- a

locked. The sense of exploration. -- based on being active. Something

else has given us an edge. Being brothers. Our parents were good

referees fortunately. I remember being competitive about everything,

board games. Table tennis. Everything was competitive, but it

was a friendly, good-natured competitiveness. There was no

acrimony or nastiness. And this was what happened in Mexico last

September. We armed rivals, but we will also be

there for each other's. -- we are rivals. Even at the finishing line.

If you're wondering, the Brownlee Arms pub -

which you just saw was named after Jonny and Alistair in 2013.

In 2008, the nation was gripped by the disappearance of nine-year-old

Shannon Matthews from The Moorside estate in Dewsbury. It was a moment

that brought the local community together. People made T-shirts and

organised search parties, and Shannon's mother Karen made this

memorable appeal. We love you to bits. We love you so much. Please

come home. Have you heard anything at all from her? Nothing at all. I

just want her home, where she belongs with the family. If

anybody's got Shannon, please return her home safe. I'm begging you. Come

home. Two months later, Shannon was found alive in a house about a mile

away, but the biggest shock at all was the revelation that her mother,

Karen Matthews, had known where her daughter was all along. This story

is going to be retold in a 2-part drama on BBC One called The

Moorside, and former detective Christine Freeman, at the heart of

the real-life drama, joins us now. You were a family liaison, but your

role was more than that, wasn't it? People think that family liaison is

the title of your job. I was a detective. My role was to find the

truth, to find evidence, evidence to support or disprove the account that

was being given. It is so much more than just tea and sympathy that

people tend to think goes with the title of family liaison. It is about

paying attention to every detail that said two years. And acting on

it, recording it, making sure that everything we report back to the

senior officers is accurate. I'm guessing the closer you get to the

family, the more you are trying to seek out the truth. When did you

start to suspect Karen and think there might be something else at

play? Quite early on. The coverage that you have just shown of the

appeal, Karen was very clearly asked not to speak to the press, but she

did it even though she had been asked by police officers not to. But

I suppose the moment that everybody knows about is 20 minutes into my

first meeting with her, my phone rang. I had a pop tune. And she got

up and started dancing. And much as you try not to judge, everybody is

different, but it was strange. Extremely strange. And I did think

at that time, is this a mum that is worried about her trials, or is she

just enjoying a bit of attention? And that was 20 minutes after I

first met her. Did you ever think that Shannon would be found alive?

Never. Never. The afternoon that Shannon went missing, that evening

was a typical Yorkshire win today. It was foggy, very, very foggy,

minus four degrees. I got involved at 8am the next morning, and I

remember going down to Dewsbury police station, seriously thinking

that this child cannot have survived a night out in these conditions. We

thought we were looking for a child's body. We have some footage

showing Karen and their reaction when the child was found. I think

you are there in the audience. There is some flash photography in the

footage, that you said something like, Karen, can you give us a

smile. What was going through your head? She isn't smiling. She is

looking very serious, considering the news she just has had. She is

looking very worried. In hindsight, she was worried because we had found

Shannon, who could tell us the true account. I was stood behind her with

my colleague Alex, and she was extremely serious. I called out to

her, Karen, smile! We have found her. You were there when Karen

admitted that she had had something to do with it. What was the

situation? Everybody was starting to doubt her. Her reactions to seeing

Shannon on the news, she was saying, she is a superstar. She never accept

it, when we tried to prepare her for the worst, she always maintained

that Shannon was coming home. Julie and Natalie, two close friends of

Karen's, both shared by concerns. They had said they wanted to put it

to her that there was more to the story than she was letting on. So we

arranged a meeting, and we sat in my car. Natalie opened up the

conversation by saying, I have been your friend for a long time, Karen.

I will support you no matter what. You don't stop being a friend just

because somebody tells a lie or makes a mistake. Natalie put the

theory to her. She said, I think you wanted to leave your partner, Craig,

and I think that you asked Mick to pick Shannon up from school and you

were going to meet him with the rest of the children, but then you got

scared, you couldn't carry it through, and that is when you had to

report her missing, so that Craig didn't suspect. Karen took a great

intake of breath and said, you are right. The whole story is told in

this BBC drama. You have had a close connection with it. It is the most

accurate account that is out there. It has been a pleasure to be

involved in it, because it tells the true story. Thank you, Christine.

Trish has been making some deliveries of her own now, with the

help of some old banana skins. We have always been told that bananas

are a great way to fuel asked during exercise. But what if I told you

that banana skins and other food waste can also fuel another energy

revolution? According to some of our biggest supermarkets and retailers,

food and agricultural waste holds the key to a fuel that could

drastically reduce pollution on our roads, bio methane. Last month,

Waitrose unveiled ten new lorries, all running on bio methane. What are

the advantages of having these? These omit a hundred times less of

CO2 than a conventional truck. They will also save us money. It is about

a ?17,000 saving of fuel per truck per year. A new way of fuelling

lorries would be welcome news for all concerned about the environment,

but how does biofuel work, and is it a realistic alternative? Food waste

is collected and taken to a processing plant like this one,

where the bin contents are unloaded and food fed into giant vats. This

is one of around 70 processing plants in the UK that can put our

waste into bio methane fuel. The waste, including my banana skin, is

mulched down into this paste. It is heated to 70 degrees, and then

cooled before mixing with bacteria to break it down to become bio

methane, the fuel that can run our central heating, cookers and

lorries. It is then fed into the National Grid at a rate of 1000

metres cubed of higher methane per hour. 30 miles up the road, stations

like this one supply the bio methane gas from the National Grid to the

trucks. Philip is the CEO. Where else is this technology being used?

Places like Argos use it for their lorries, but then you also have

buses in places like Reading. And also refuse trucks. I would expect

to see a lot of bin lorries running on bio methane coming on grid in the

future years. But there are currently limitations. With only two

fuelling stations, how viable is this? We are in the process of

building four to six per year going forward. So every region in the UK

will have stations like this. As a plan, it is very viable. You have to

start somewhere. Road transport accounts for around one fifth of the

UK's greenhouse emissions. Diesel engines account for 40% of some of

the most harmful pollutants of London's inner-city. The London

mayor is planning to expand the emission zone, he is so concerned.

So cutting out many of these pollutants is an attractive

prospect, and recent advances in technology have allowed companies

like Waitrose to make the switch. This tank is much bigger. It is made

of carbon fibre, so it is much lighter and more efficient. This

allows us to do a range of 500 miles from the depot. In the past, it was

300. What is the long-term plan? As vehicles come to the end of their

life, to replace diesel with gas or bio methane vehicles, to displace as

much diesel as we can with bio methane. Of course, we have to make

sure companies are committed and don't just see it as a good PR

opportunity. But if this trial works, others ones may follow. That

will be good for all of us. Thanks, Trish.

We're going live now to Kenya, where the Red Nose Convoy has just

Yes, David Baddiel, Katy Brand, Reggie Yates, Michaela Coel,

Russell Kane and Hugh Dennis are driving from Nairobi,

Kenya to Tororo, Uganda, delivering crucial supplies

We caught up with him before we came on air. This is what he had to say.

This was the first day of the convoy today, so it was very busy. We

started very early this morning, and we went to, we were in Nairobi, so

we went to an informal settlement just outside Nairobi, which is

effectively a slum, but a slum of a million people, which is the size of

Birmingham. It is called Kibera, and there are various projects there

that Comic Relief supports. We took supplies there, we have to massive

trucks full of supplies, and we are going in the pairs of land cruisers.

I am being driven by David Baddiel, which is absolutely terrifying. I

spent a really fascinating afternoon with a community health worker

called Patrick, who works in this slum. There is one health centre for

a million people. It is quite extraordinary. His job is to deliver

information to women who are expecting babies, or have just given

birth. He does this amazing job of teaching them about nutrition, about

hygiene, and there is a really any sanitation in this slum, because

there's no running water in the houses, just standpipes, and there's

no sewage pipes. All these basic bits of information that he gives

these pregnant women. And he is making an incredible difference,

because in the first year that he has done it, the number of pregnant

women who go to all of their antenatal classes has gone up, 1500

more women are going now than were going, and the mortality rate has

dropped significantly. Incredibly simple things, but it is really just

to show where your money is going for Comic Relief, and the good it is

doing right across Kenya. That is what this week is about.

Thank you to Hugh and good luck to the Red Nose Convoy -

we'll be checking in on them again at the end of the week.