06/03/2013 The One Show

Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker.

And Alex Jones. Our guests tonight are two singers who could hardly be

more different. But we think they would nestle together rather nicely

in a fantasy record collection. He's the rough and ready poet from

Dagenham who actually does want to change the world. And she's someone

half the country would like to spend their summer nights with.

It's Olivia Newton-John and Billy Bragg.

You've both been in the music industry for well over 30 years. Is

this the first time you've ever met? This is the first time. It is

so easy stages pass like ships in the night at.

Olivia, you're here to start your first tour since 1978 for goodness

sake, what kept you away so long? cannot believe that. Why so long?

don't like to rush. I have been coming back over here and singing

with Cliff Richard's, I did not realise it was so long.

Billy you've been touring the UK pretty much non-stop since the

early 80s, any advice for Olivia on the best venues, motorway service

stations? I have played a few, yes. I know

where to get a decent cup of tea at 2:00am and a bacon sandwich. Later

this evening we have a world exclusive, a musical premiere never

seen or heard before and probably never again. Billy Bragg will

perform an Olivia Newton-John song. Are you ready for it Billy?

I am ready. Billy has always been known as a proud Dagenham and

Barking boy. So proud in fact he immortalised it in his take on

Route 66 called A13, Trunk Road to the Sea and Iwan Thomas is in

Dagenham for us tonight to spread a bit more Essex pride aren't you,

Iwan? Yes, I started in Wapping, ain't no

stopping, bypassed Barking and went straight through Dagenham to the

Civic Centre, why? Because tonight in Billy's honour I'll be

celebrating and meeting some of the finest people who live in this very

town and championing their great achievements. The film, Made in

Dagenham, is getting its TV premiere on the BBC this weekend

but there's more to this place than the Cortina, as we'll find out

later. The civic centre. I have been there

many times that. It is interesting with made in Dagenham being on as

well. I rode the theme song with David Donald. He got in touch with

me, I went to see it, and he asked me did I fancy writing some lyrics.

We will talk more about your music been a bit. More is being spent

online every year. For some people, shopping on the

High Street is not the easiest option. Take Chris from Essex, with

limited mobility, he prefers to buy online. But even on the most

reputable website, things are not always what they seem. We decided

to buy a new television because I had been having problems hearing

the other one. I found a television on Amazon and it was a reasonable

price. It was the free delivery that sold it to us. Chris decided

to shop on Amazon because of the Consumer Protection it offers

through its guaranteed. It means any purchase on Amazon is protected,

even if it is with another company or private seller. As long as you

do the deal through Amazon itself. Chris ordered his TV to a private

seller on Amazon, but the bill he received with the address of A-Z

Amazon .co.uk. It said services Amazon. It did not ring any alarm

bells because Amazon have their own a to Z service. Everything just

looked perfect. But this isn't the Amazon website and Chris is the

victim of an elaborate con. Despite paying �920, he has never received

his television. The fake website looks like Amazon, works like

Amazon and knows your personal Amazon details. This is Amazon

.co.uk. I am locked in. Now we go to the fake Amazon site. I am still

locked in. That is my account. How have they done that? It is such a

very clever scam. There is no reason to believe it is fake.

Everybody who has seen it has said the same thing. It is Amazon.

site was so convincing, Chris agreed to transfer his money

straight into what he thought was an Amazon bank account. It is a lot

of money to lose, �920? Yes, nobody can afford to lose it. Gutted and

annoyed, frustrated. Sick really. How has become man managed to

seemingly copy Amazon's website? Tony is a former police officer who

works as an internet security expert for the Government. Your

technical men had been looking at this website, what is going on?

What you see is the Amazon website. But they put something called a

wire frame over it, like a shell. You're looking at it through a

third party website. That the website was used by the scam

merchants during Chris away from the real site and duping him into

using a direct bank transfer instead of Amazon's protected card

payment system. Basically the conman has convinced Chris to go

off the Amazon website to deal with him through e-mail? Most of the big

companies lead deal with will say, don't go away from the main site.

The security features within the website will protect you. By taking

you away from it, the protection has gone. What about the command

behind it. We tried to contact him, but surprisingly we did not hear

back. Their business address happens to be the House of a

pensioner, who knew nothing about it. But Chris is hundreds of pounds

out of pocket and has been less than impressed with Amazon's

response. They cannot impose their guarantee because I did not to buy

it through Amazon, as it turns out. Even if you which wrecked? Even if

you are tricked. We asked Amazon if they were going to do something

As for Chris, he has had to pay out another �1,000 to finally get the

television he wanted. This time from a legitimate salad. It is a

Our consumer champion, Matt Allwright, is here. Matt, just how

did Tony get caught up in this because it's complicated isn't it?

He was re directed to what looked like an Amazon website, but it was

not. The A-Z guaranteed they offer, it is recognisable but it is not

the same as the Amazon website. It is a wire frame and fits over the

top. The thing you're looking at the real thing. Did Chris get his

money back? No, and it is unlikely he will do. Amazon have taken the

person selling off the site, but the site is still alive. The fake

site is still there. They cannot track them down or get rid of it?

No, it is to the got to know whether it is alive and still

taking business. The best thing to do is play safe. I dread to think

how much money they have taken. What advice do you have about

people who are concerned? Firstly, type the website address

in manually rather than clicking to it via a third-party website. Check

you've typed it correctly. Next, make sure the payment is secure.

You can tell this by looking out for two main things:

There should be a padlock symbol in the browser window frame, which

appears when you attempt to log in or register. Be sure that the

padlock is in the browser and not on the page itself. And second, the

web address should begin with https:// - the 'S' stands for

secure. Look at how it's asking you to pay. Asking to transfer money

into a bank account is unusual. And finally, remember as always that

paying by credit card offers greater protection against fraud

than with other methods. But online fraud isn't just

happening when you pay, is it Matt? Fraudulence reviews are being

posted on sites. There will be comments afterwards a weather has

been a survey and it is printed in one of the broadsheets that says

companies are getting people overseas to review their

competitors poorly and themselves well. It is estimated in a few

years, one in seven reviews on websites will be fraudulent.

when you are looking for a hotel or something, you cannot believe what

you read? You must know all about this?

could name the names. When people are searching for something like a

television, so many on the market, you put the television you want in,

up come all the offers. You are looking at the cheapest. You trust

in the internet. Perhaps too much will stop you go to the cheapest

one, you don't look into the name of the website. That is the problem.

It is led by the price rather than security. We all love a bargain.

Chris, we do hope you are enjoying your television. The Duchess of

Cambridge visited Grimsby yesterday where she met a few locals and some

fire fighters. If she's got a soft spot for fire fighters, perhaps she

should trot off down to Sommerset with Alex Riley to meet their

latest recruit. Not Fireman Sam, but Fireman Ham.

As a fire fighter you need to be prepared. Flames, explosions,

saving lives. And then there is rescuing the animals. Rescuing

animals has become an increasing part of the firefighter's job. That

is why fire and rescue Service are running courses to train

firefighters to evacuate, save and catch the animals. We get about 150

animal rescues a year. There have become a number of incidents of

animals becoming trapped and their owners trying to rescue them, I'm

getting injured or killed. With us doing it by the right training, it

makes it safer for the public and the animals. Part of this is for

them to get experience of working with the animals and understand

their behaviour and thinking, so when they go to an incident they

can remove an animal into a place of safety. In the training is some

sheep, a turkey called cranberry, a horse called James, and a 14 stone

pig. When you go to move your animals in the event of an

evacuation, always no way you will be putting these animals. Animal

rescue trainer, Dawn Watkins knows how to save an animal's bacon. You

deal with a different range of animals, how does a piggy behave

differently to a turkey? Most people would use pig boards and

sticks. The firefighters had used in the past, and riot shields. With

paltry, you are teaching them to use sticks because it gives them an

extension of their arms so it gives them a wider area to help guide the

animals. When the firefighters arrive they are usually worried

about getting up close to these animals. They are large. By the end

of the day, they know where they can position themselves to avoid

getting injured and how to minimise Another pig $:/STARTFEED.

Successfully transferred to a place of safety. For many of the

firefighters, their job is the only place where they are in contact

with animals. Some of us have been around animals

before. Some of us haven't. The ones that haven't have never dealt

with a cow or a shop before and it gives them confidence when we have

got to approach it and go to it. Things like today will help us know

how to keep animals relaxed. Before, it was trial and error and standard

procedures we learned and now we have got official training to back

it up. What's the most difficult animal to

make relaxed? I would say horses because they are flighty.

How do you calm a horse? Catch him around the neck.

Understanding the way an animal behaves could make the difference

between a successful rescue and the rescue that descends into chaos.

Anyway, as well as having to rescue for animals, Fire Brigades are

recruiting them. I have firefighterer Baz -- firefighter

Baz and firefighter, Kerry. How are the dogs helping? They are finding

liquids after a fire has occurred. We use it as part of the fire

investigation process to speed that process up and save us time and

money as well. What do they detect? Ignitable

liquids. Everything that comes out of a barrel of oil that's made into

petrol or diesel or white spirit, these dogs will find it.

You are going to give us a demo with Barley. Dogs are trained to

search for tennis balls and we swap the odour of the ball so they

search for the smell of the ignitable liquid. The dogs think it

is a great game. scen? The idea so to show you how

quickly the dogs work and how accurately the dogs work. The dog

will not only point to the corner of the tile that has the ignitable

liquid on it. There is an X on there. Look at

that! I am not talking about that huge X,

I am talking about that tiny one there. That's incredible. We will

have to have a talk about embers get up gear? The idea is to protect

her feet from sharps. The safety of the dogs is par mown and --

paramount. With With Paul here, you are a

husband and wife team. Paul, how are the dogs affecting the arson

numbers? They have been reduced and the fire investigation team to

which we like in the Fire Service. Great. Well, keep up the good work

and Barley, you are a star! Dogs in boots, isn't that amazing?

You are both big dog lovers. You are having a new dog soon? Yes, we

are being given a puppy soon. We just lost mine to old age. You lost

yours too Yes, we lost Buster to old age.

Happy corner here! You are about to embark on your

nationwide tour starting in Cardiff on Sunday and then doing the tour

you performing in that very town # Love is to care

APPLAUSE It is such a warm and cosy voice

that you have there. APPLAUSE

places. It was No surprise. That was a great song and they sang

amazing. Wow. Are you doing anything from

Greece? Of course not. Of course not!

Of course, I am! Of course I am, yes. It wouldn't be

the most fun parts of the show. you tell us which tracks? Yes, I do

four songs. I do Youre The One That I Want. I do Summer Nights and We

Go Together. 40 years in the business. How do

you choose which songs you will do and are you going to change them

for each venue? For England I added in songs that were successful and

weren't successful anywhere else. And I do country music which is how

I started out. My first songs were recorded in England, through Xanadu,

through Greece and the different areas of my life and new things

that maybe people haven't heard before, healing songs.

And you did last year, record a record with John Travolta which we

can see here. Is this a tribute to this Christmas record for our

charities, for my hospital and for John's son, Jett. John put it

fun to do a tip of the hat to Greece.

Are you expecting him on the tour? Is there any chance of you hooking

up? I doubt not. You and John in Brighton, I can see

it now? I don't think it will happen.

Speaking of a large catalogue, Billy, you have got the same

problem, when you are touring, which you do all the time, how do

you go about putting together a list? If I see someone before the

show and we mention a song, I have got it on my iPhone and now I have

got a band. The task is to take the new songs that the band play and

the old songs and get the band to well, we did a show in London and

it worked well. I woos woos please -- I was pleased with it.

Where is the most unusual place you played? The most unusual? I did a

gig last year on Cony Island with Steve Erroll and we played in in

front of a big thing that tilts and whirls. The sun went down and we

had a hot dog with Woody's daughter. It was beautiful. Woody's great

grandchildren joined in. They are tiny kids and they joined in.

drinks and then start start writing a letter to a celebrity? No one!

# Return to sender # Return to sender. So you have had

a few drinks and you want to write to someone famous and why not?

The Royal Mail handles 15 billion items every year. And so it is not

surprise that many items just don't reach their intended destination.

Any mail which can't be delivered ends up here at the National Return

Centre in Belfast which handles an incredible number of undelivered

parcels and letters. Some items don't have the right

address. Sometimes they are addressed to people who have moved.

None of them have return addresses. So, decisions have to be made. Tara

Connor worked here for 12 years. 50,000 items are received every day.

Every day? And that includes parcels as well.

So we have got to hurry. We open return address and get the item

back to the sender. OK, let's open it then.

So unfortunately we can't send that back to the sender. What happens to

that then? We will dispose of it as we do with all our items that have

no return items. Thrown away? Confidentially

disposed of. That's a Christmas card, is it?

Dear onan that, wishing you a happy Christmas and New Year. What will

you do with that? There is a return address and we will send it back to

the sender. The variety of objects that come

into this office is astonishing. We receive locusts.

Locusts? People buy them for food for their animals or their snakes

or their reptiles. We have this person that keeps on sending milk.

Milk? Two litres of milk keep getting sent in the post.

That's a milk fanatic? Well, I would say it is something strange P.

This is Star Wars? Yes, that's Darf Vader's helmet.

May the force of the Royal Mail be with you.

Some of the items are worth considerable sums. One package

contained a Picasso sketch. Most mail is held for two months and

then disposed of, but anything believed to be valuable is held for

longer. If you think they are historically important? We will

hold them indefinitely. Why waste the money on this stuff? It does

cost for this operation to be run over �3 million a year, we manage

for the parts that we can't find a How much do you make on that?

sender. If we can't find the sender Some of the most difficult items to

deal with are those with sentimental value. There is so much

stuff here hardly worth keeping. nothing to us, but to the family

involved they could be priceless. The staff say they are kept because

one day they might be returned to their rightful owners and who can

That's a good point. John has given us three items that

are stuck in postal limbo and have no home. We want you to help us

find the sender or the person they have been addressed to? This the

writing says, "Mummy before she married and it is dated 191. Yths -

- 1912." There are Pictures of family holidaying in Italy and in

the Bahamas in 1953. Ring any bells with anybody? If it

does, let us know. Olivia. Does anyone recognise this

little boy? The handwriting says John six-and-a-half months old

taken at Porthcawl. He would be nearly 64-and-a-half years old.

Wouldn't it be great to get in touch with the owners?

We have one last one. I am guessing somebody will claim this because it

is worth a few quid. This is the final draft script of

Jaws. So, Royal Mail says it is the

complete script. If you are thinking of claiming it, you have

to produce some ID. If you are the person mentioned in

the film, sending milk through the with yourself!

get in touch with the Royal Mail or drop us an e-mail.

Don't bother writing it probably won't get to us.

Billy, you are waiting for something really important? I am

It's been five years since you last recorded an album and this is

normally the point where we would play a clip from the album, but

you're going to go one better than that for us Billy. It has been five

years. A proper album that goes into the record shops. The you have

brought your guitar? I wrote a song called Handy man Blues, about a my

inability to do anything useful around the house.

# Don't be expecting me to put up shelves or build a garden shed.

# But I can write a song that holds the world how much I love you

instead. I am not any good at pottery, so

let's shift the settee. # I will find a way to make my

poetry put a roof over our heads. # Aynho it looks I'm only reading

the paper. A # But these ideas will You and my boyfriend would get on

great. There will be men who identify it. Women say to me, you

have written that about my husband. You've recorded the entire album in

just five days, why the rush? was recorded in five days of. I

went to South Carolina -- California. I normally take about

five weeks to make a record. But the record industry, the way it is

now, it has to be cost effective. It helped me get a focused, get at

them and get the songs I had into shape. That five days it was like

boot camp. We had 10 songs by the end of the week. I wrote a couple

more and we completed the album. When you are in the studio and the

clock is ticking, it is surprising. Bolivia, you know all too well?

quickest I did was a dance track album, we only had a date. But I

did not have to write them. It is very relaxing. It is a shame we

have not got any -- a little camp fire. Were you nervous about going

back into the studio? I was watching an interview on your

website this morning, and you seemed a bit nervous about bringing

a new album out? Yes, where do I fit in the record industry? Not the

music industry, the record industry. They have been topical songs and I

have put them on my website for a free download. As a result, apart

from the political songs people think I am famous for, there was

the love songs. Most of them I write on a songs. That struggle to

maintain relationships, particularly long-term

relationships is as worthy about writing about the struggle to

change the world. I have always tried to write about both. Gritty

stories, you came out and said he did not have a good voice. I once

lost my voice at a gig in Minneapolis. I said to my manager,

these people are coming to see me. He said, nobody comes to he using!

-- here you sing. I have never been technically a great songwriter. As

I have got older, my voice has dropped a little, and with a bit of

forethought, I am getting there. The people of Dagenham a luvvie of

ways, even if you think it is below par. They had come out in force to

show how talented you are. All the culture you once is in

Dagenham. I'm joined by a gymnastics club. I want the Youth

Olympics. I got five medals. Coach, Lorraine, how talented is she?

is very talented. We have a Hungarian International, 1 GB

international, and everybody's goal is Rio. Lauren over here is a

genius. Recently I achieved a 61 in an IQ test. That makes you cleverer

than Stephen Hawking, that is very good. She is very talented? We are

very proud of her. Just keep it up. Everyone in Essex is clever, and

this is why. You have been nominated for a lifetime

achievement Award... A we have believed that, because of

the sound. My brother still lives there. I recently did some stuff

and made a programme. It is my home. We had the Dagenham Girl Pipers.

thought, how are they going to fit on the sofa? They are amazing. And

they were around when I was a kid. They must be getting a bit on -- on

a bit now. Used to see them sums Saturday nights in the Wimpy Bar by

Dagenham's stations. Our current affairs man is normally out and

about breaking news stories for The One Show. But tonight in the first

of two films, he discovers the secrets on his grandfather's plan

designed past and how he might have been a prototype to James Bond.

always renew my grandfather had served in the Second World War.

It is only three recently the family learned at the extraordinary

truth, that he was hand-picked to be part of a top-secret,

intelligence gathering commando units, runs from here in the heart

of Whitehall. I want to find out more. His daughter, my relative has

been researching of family history. What do you remember? He was an

entertainer. He was a life- enhancing. He was a Jo Good, a

wonderful sense of humour. You have this wonderful photo of him. That

is what you see in this. Twinkly eyes. The for the war he was a dry-

cleaner, so how did he end up in a frontline intelligence unit? He was

39, and he was too old. They wouldn't have him. He just badgered

and kept on. He was ecstatic when they heard he would be taken. They

took him into the Royal Naval Reserve. Do you know what he was

doing in the war? I knew he put on a diver's kit and went underneath

to defuse a magnetic mines. But he was more than a bomb disposal

expert, he had been recruited into a crack, covert unit run by a

visionary commander. The man was Ian Fleming. And the men he

recruited at whether real-life inspirations the James Bond. It

superior submarines, torpedoes and the Hon cracker ball and make no

code meant Germany had the upper hand in the early years of the war.

Commander Fleming proposed a simple solution - steal the technology.

This is where he spent six years of the second world war in this room,

the heart of naval intelligence. Where did the idea come for this

unit? It started when he wrote a memo on 20th March, 1942. We have

got the original memo. My tea is a proposal for the unit. He puts it

up to his boss, Admiral Godfrey. He has written at the bottom, "yes".

With an invasion of France imminent, Fleming needed men with technical

know-how. My grandfather found himself summoned to the new

headquarters in Littlehampton. was selected because he had a great

record and gallantry. Unveiling minds and torpedoes. He was

recruited to lead the specialist team. He was going across to France

and the idea was he would catch a naval intelligence, has deservedly

targeting torpedos. And very important role. As a commando, my

grandfather would have to get fit. Lance Corporal Alan Royle is one of

only a handful of surviving veterans of 30 a youth. He was

always on speed marches, street fighting. Abseiling up and down the

local workhouse walls. Everybody knew D-Day was coming. Just a

question of when. D-Day, the greatest amphibious invasion in

history was about to begin and the unit was about to play a small but

important role. Their mission - to capture Secrets and signed his in

an effort to aid the battle to crush the matts seas. My

grandfather played his part in that. That is where my grandfather and

his troops would have headed? Tamara Clarke -- tomorrow will be

following his mission and discover what happened to him when he landed

in Normandy. Billy, you're saying your dad was

part of the tank regiment? He was in the 43rd Royal Tank regiments

and bake trained on a secret thing, the canal defence graft. That is a

picture of my dad. The turret is false, it was daylight to which

they deployed on battlefields to deploy at night. It was so secret,

nobody knew it existed so they never used it will stop my dad

ended up in India after the war. When there were riots in the

streets, these tanks were very valuable because they had such

powerful searchlights will stop that is the only place it saw

service. You were born in the UK to a Welsh father and he played a part

in the second world war? He was part of the team that crack the

code. It he was at Bletchley Park and he was a wing commander in the

air force and broke perfect -- spoke perfect German for some he

could not talk about it. Ian works at Bletchley Park and he is going

to fill the gaps in the EU and tell you more about your dad. Your

father worked in a place called huts three and was involved in

turning the decipher it messages into intelligence. We have a

picture of him here. They took these deciphered messages and saw

what was important and worked out which ones needed to be sent on to

the field urgently and which went on for routine work in London.

Yesterday was his 99th birthday. had quite an impact on the social

side of things as well? He was a major player in the amateur

dramatics and operatic Society. This is a programme from a

production called, by candlelight, and you can see the pictures with

your father performing. This was signed by all of the cast at the

end, November 1945, so they were about to depart to the civilian

jobs at the end of the war. There is your father's signature. He had

a beautiful voice, he was a Welshman. I thank him for some of

the genes he gave me. He was also quite a dashing chap. This is a

production of Pride and Prejudice. He actually played Mr Darcy.

Really?! I have never seen this before, thanks so much. You were

talking about his voice and being Welsh. We have one last surprise

for you. You will hear the performance of her the marriage of

Figaro which was done by the Bletchley Park operatic society,

and your father performed the role That is very special. It is a

scratchy performance but used by the BBC on their workers' playtime.

We will do a copy of those photos. That would be lovely. While we

share some more memories, we are marvelling at the memory of the

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eyes than most of us realise. There is one bug which has a very special

trait. The humming bird hawk moth has an

incredible memory. They can remember and learn which flower has

the best source of nectar and will return time and time again to feed

there. This unusual summer visitor to British gardens need a lot of

energy. They flap their wings at over 85 beats a second and live for

up to four months. All this flying uses up their energy resorves --

reserves quickly. To demonstrate this impressive brain power,

Alistair has raised and nurtured humming bird hawk moths for The One

Show. With a week of training using

artificial flowers and a sugary solution, Alistair has taught the

moths to ig ignore their preference for blue flowers by providing food

incentives only behind the yellow ones. I have been keen to find out

how they have been getting on. You are predicting this moth should

avoid the blue? It should go straight to yellow, but we are

looking at animals here. We will wait and see!

There you go. Alistair's training has worked. This moth ignores the

blue and heads to the yellow flower with the abundance of nectar. Many

insects waste time and energy by searching for food, but the humming

hawk moth's ability means their ability to remember which coloured

flower provides the best source of food sets them apart from other

insects. We have seen them feeding at the artificial flower, but will

they feed of a real flower the same colour? We will put one in and sees.

A simple switch from yellow yellow to a real flower and the moth

wastes no time in seeing this colour as a potential food source.

That is quite impressive, isn't it? They can learn on an artificial

flower or fake food source and then translate that into the real world.

It is not just colour that these amazing moths can remember.

Research has shown a flower's shape and size and smell can be learnt

and memorised by these fury flyers. Watching them in super slow motion,

it is easy to appreciate why they need to feed on such energy-rich

nectar, remembering where those vital flowers on allows them to

keep on flying. Although the experiment is simple,

it is the principle behind what we have shown today that is

extraordinary and experiments have shown that various moth can do the

same thing, but none are so clever or smart as the humming bird hawk

moth. There is a way of harnessing that

talent, but I haven't worked it out yet.

Billy, as it happens, you have had a run-in with a moth. A large moth!

Those moths were flying around me when I was was doing a gig in

Oklahoma and I am standing on the is 30 degrees hot and the lights

are on me and the moths are coming to where the light is and they were

flying around like sparrows. It was me shoulder for a um can have

songs! -- for a couple of songs.

When you took the picture of the moth, did you think, "This will be

handy when I go on The One Show?" We think Mike has identified the

family. Would it have killed me? On the wildlife wildlife theme, you

are doing a bit of tree planning? Yes, I am I am going to plant a

tree in Hyde Park. We are hoping the education department implement

that every child when they are at school, plant a tree. Did this in

Australia and we want to take it worldwide now.

Excellent. Right then, Bill Billy, it is time for you to get

the guitar out. They asked me if I could play a bit

on the programme. Do you remember this one?

# If not for you # I couldn't even findted door

-- find the door # I I couldn't even see the floor

# I would be sad and blue # If not for you

# There would be no spring # I couldn't hear a robin sing

# I will be sad and blue # If not for you

# If not for you my sky would fall # Rain would gather too

# Without you I would be nowhere at # I would be lost if not for you

APPLAUSE Brilliant!

Once a star, always a star. Once a busker, always a busker!

That's my husband's favourite song. That's for you, honey!

Lovely. Last time you came on, we Greece, but we are not allowed! We

will have a look at Xanadu and we have a clip of you and Gene Kelly

APPLAUSE Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.

I called the original Dancing With The Stars!

I had to learn tap dancing. I had three months to learn and it was

pretty intimidating, but he was lovely and he made it easy.

Were you nervous on your first day? Very nervous. He did a lot in one

take so you couldn't do little bits, you had to do the hole thing and

not trip over your own feet! Was that a highlight for you?

yeah, very exciting. How lucky am I to have danced with Gene Kelly and

John Travolta? And you sang with Billy Bragg.

Well, it is the biggest dance festival in the UK this weekend and

we have got a performance from one of the groups taking part. There

they are. They are brilliant. First, Laura tells us us what it was like

to grow up with a famous mother mother.

My mother was Laura Ashley. My mother didn't like to be referred

asked if she had an official job tight until the company and -- job

title in the company and she said, "Yes, I was the secretary to the

chairman." They built up the company, Laura Ashley. In 1960, my

family moved from Kent up to to mid-Wales and there was myself and

my brother and sister, Jane. My mother was Welsh and she said,

"let's forget England. Let's go to Wales." This was our first home in

Wales and it was only after we we lived in the house for a few months

that it became a shop and this was the first of all the Laura Ashley

shops around the world. I love your shop. It is fantastic.

My mother used to sell tea towels and rugs and fabric. Yeah, I heard

so many good things about your mother and the shop and how welcome

she was. She would make them cups of tea. Did she print the tea

towelss? My mother and father went to see a film with Audrey Hepburn

and my mother loved the silk scarf she was wearing. She went to the

library and got a book on how to do printing and started and that's how

it started. And behind this door that I haven't been through since I

was 12 years old was our bedroom. I would sleep there. I I can hardly

fit in it now. I remember standing here at about this height and

looking out. Amazing. And this is where my father and

mother found their first factory in Wales. It doesn't look much to look

at now and it probably didn't look much then. This is where the whole

thing started, this little factory here. Mum and dad started off

printing materials for curtains and as the demand grew, they got more

and more into clothing. And then in about 1967 the station closed down

and it gave my mother and father an an opportunity to buy that station

and the land next to it. So we moved addross the road.

It is the centre of a �10 million business export to go Europe, North

America, Australia and Japan. We were very lucky because we

happened on this village in mid- Wales. They were always telling us

we helped them a lot, but they they helped us more.

NEWSREEL: Laura Ashley has died in hospital in Coventry. She was

injured nine days ago when she fell dawn the stairs -- down the stairs

at her daughter's home. She never regained consciousness.

The press made it impossible for my to have had because they were just

outside the hospital and inside the hospital. Some of the disreputable

newspapers threatened to run a story about how my mother was

pushed down the stairs just the fact that the press was so awful

took me many more years to mourn my mother's death than it otherwise

would have taken. We, as a family, decided that the

village more than any other place that we have been in our lives

seemed to be the best place for mum and later for my father to be

Thank you very much, David. It is time to meet Boy Blue

Entertainment and none of them are wearing Laura Ashley. You were

perform at the Olympics? That's right. How was that? We got to work

with thousands of volunteers as well as professionals. It was

working on that six months to a year.

This weekend you are part of a new dance festival called Move It?

is the UK's biggest dance festival and it show cases all of the

different styles at all levels of dance. So we do masterclasses and

there is taster classes and performances. It is at the London

Olympia. You were saying that street dancing

was in Xanadu? Yes. We had street dancing then.

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If you are a smoker thinking about quitting, or if you would like help

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That's it. Olivia's tour starts in Cardiff on Sunday night. Billy's