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with Matt Baker. And Matt Jones. Our guest is a pedal powered medal

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winning machine. He is 11 time world champion, six time Olympic champion

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and the most successful Olympic cyclist of all time. In fact, in

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terms of gold medals, he is the most successful British Olympian ever.

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None of this would have happened if it was not for a film about a little

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alien in a bicycle basket. To tell us why, please welcome, the one at

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the back, Sir Chris Hoy. It is great to see you. Welcome. How are you?

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Welcome. The ET influence, tell us more? It is the story a lot of

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people think is nonsense but it is true. I watched it when I was about

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six or seven and it is the first BMX bike I had ever seen. I had never

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heard of them before and it was the chase scene at the end, being chased

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through the streets, going over jumps, around corners, and other six

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or seven-year-old it was very exciting and that is why I got into

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BMX. You are ninth in the world eventually. A few years later, I

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started racing at a local track and used to go all over Britain and

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Europe. My dad took me in the car. We would pack up after school on

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Friday, drive to the race and come back up on Sunday night. Do you

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remember your first bike? You never forget it. Was it pink?It was a

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second-hand bike, I think it was �5. My dad got it, re-sprayed it and put

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BMX stickers and big handlebars, convinced me it was the BMX. I

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thought brilliant, went out there and there was a dirt jump area near

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my house. I went there and within about two or three weeks I had

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snapped the frame. You moved onto this one, your second bike. That is

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a belter. My mum called it the girls bike. My next door neighbour, it was

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that old bike and she offered it to me. It did not last long,

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unfortunately. Many others have happy memories of our first bikes,

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so we want to see yours. If you have a picture, send into the usual

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address and we will show them later. We know of at least one MP, three

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lords and one former X factor judge who will be cursing undercover

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journalists this week. Who here is News man turned broadcaster Nick

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Ferrari on the art of the perfect sting. The sting has been around for

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years. It has brought down politicians, sports stars and

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celebrities. It usually works like this. Reporter goes undercover to

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expose wrongdoing. He or she pretends to be someone they are not

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by setting up a fake company, taking on a fake identity or perhaps most

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famously, being a fake sheik. Sting can result in famous -- newspapers

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flying off the shelves. It can ruin lives careers in minutes. But what

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is the recipe for a perfect sting? Well, I am going to speak to some

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other seasoned old hacks to try to find out. Phil Hall was editor of

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the News of the world for five years, a paper well known for its

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Expose is and reporters who, just at the right moment, aid their excuses

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and left. He says the key to a great sting if keeping it simple. What

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makes a good sting? A good sting is a story that probably ultimately

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ends up with the person you are writing about going to jail. What is

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required? What are the ingredients? The You need clear evidence. Things

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will be under the microscope. Newspapers have to have confessions,

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independent witnesses. The end has to justify the means. Which sting

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are you most proud of? The Jeffrey Archer case. He went to jail for

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five years, committed perjury, and it is something newspapers should

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investigate. How do you know it is worth pursuing question mark so many

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stories must come your way. Has to be a high profile out Wash

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individual, criminal activity and something in the public interest.

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What all is not in the public interest as a matter of debate but

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most editors will only authorise the sting if they have some proof

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beforehand that wrongdoing is taking place. The stakes are high for

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everyone. Today's headlines are tomorrow's disaster stories for

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some, so if you are going to go undercover you have to make sure you

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get it right and you don't get caught. How many people are you

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responsible for torturing? Paul Kenyon is an experienced undercover

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reporter, who has gone to extreme lengths to get his story. He has

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even faked his own death. He was almost rumbled when posing as a boat

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fanatic for the BBC. I jumped down onto an area of the yacht that

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looked safe and flat and he turned around and said, you do not know

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anything about yachts, do you pressure up she said, you do jump

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onto this part of the yacht in shoes. There is no way I would have

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known that but it gave it away very suspiciously from that moment.

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fearful do you get prior to the moment of confrontation? When you

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hear on a walkie-talkie someone say, he is coming your way, yes, your

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heart leaps out of your rib cage. It is a big moment. The key rules for

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keeping your cover intact, what do you do?

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Keeping cool, having a strong back story. Everything has to be planned

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with military position. We have to know how to use secret cameras. One

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of the stupidest things is putting on an accent. I have been in

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positions before where I thought I used -- I ought to be East European.

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When it went on television my wife said, you sound like a meerkat,

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talking like this. You have to stick to your story, make it believable

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and you have to have some proof before you go undercover. Cash for

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questions, cash for access, cash for fixing. In a sting, money comes into

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it. But when does it become cashing in on the vulnerable? When is it

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merely entrapment? I think newspapers stings must be

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proportionate. If you're going to offer a jockey a sum of money to

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throw a race and he is earning �1000 a week, if you offer him �100,000 he

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would be tempted. It does not mean he is a bent jockey. It has to be

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proportionate. The perfect thing has to be to expose something corrupt or

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some wrongdoing. You have to have a cover story as tight as a Manchester

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United back four. When you go in for the sting you have to catch them

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doing it, not make them do it. Andrew Neil is here. Panorama's

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investigation into lobbying practices, Cash For Questions

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Undercover, is on tonight but in your experience, what have these

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recent finds uncovered for you? People worry politicians are for

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hire. They have become hired guns. They are meant to be our hired guns,

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working for us, the people and people worried that they can be

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bought by powerful interests and represent these interests for

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money, rather than presenting the people. That is not healthy. All of

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them have denied the allegations. am not talking about the recent

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ones, this is going back since 1994. I was told in 94 that some

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politicians, if you paid them, would ask questions in the House of

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Commons. We found it hard to prove. I had to go to America. The acting

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editor, who took over, set up the sting and it works. They took the

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money and asked the questions. did they do that? It was a sting

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operation. The journalists appeared to be lobbyists representing a big

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company and said if you represent our interests, we will pay you each

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month and they said, OK, when do we start? They spoke about entrapment

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in the film. When do you cross the line? When does it become

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entrapment? You should not go on a fishing expedition. You should not

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say, let's take six MPs and see if they bite. You need grounds for

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thinking that they could be susceptible in the first place. The

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second thing is, if they turn it down first time, you can't go back

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and say we will give you twice as much, three times as much, we will

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throw in a holiday because that is becoming troubled. You have to keep

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your eye on the price. If they don't get it first time, you have to walk

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away. Have you had any experience in this field? With drugs around

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cycling, have you found undercover journalists have tried to get things

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out of you? Not that I have been aware of. My experience with the

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media has been positive over the years. There is time!I don't want

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to jinx it. Most journalists seem pretty straight. The biggest thing

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for us in the public eye, it is the wrong road, the wrong phrase, the

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wrong sentence that comes out and gets used against you, with a

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headline. On the whole, I have had a pretty good experience. Andrew,

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thanks and Panorama is on tonight at 9pm and Andrew and his guests will

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be back on This Week at 11:35pm on BBC One. With Molly is a dog. She is

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here with her agent. They said The One Show could not afford her.

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will be watching, tucked up in bed. As well as being an Olympic and

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world champion, Chris also holds the world record for cycling 500 metres

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in a very speedy 24.75 seconds. Incredible. As Iwan Thomas

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explains, even cycling hero like Chris would struggle to beat the

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astonishing achievements of a former greengrocer's boy from

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Stoke-on-Trent. There is one sporting record, a feat

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of endurance so great that almost certainly it will never be broken.

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In the 1930s, a competition to cycle the greatest distance in a year was

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known simply as the year record. Related by cycling magazine and

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followed avidly by thousands of readers, the record in 1937 was held

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by an Australian, Ozzy Nicholson, and stood a little over 62,000 650

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miles. On January one, 1939, British cyclist Tommy Godwin put his life on

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hold, secured sponsorship and set out to break it. He would need to

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cover on average over 170 miles a day, that is between ten or 12 hours

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in this hard saddle, everyday, for 365 days straight. Cycling

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journalist and author Dave Barter has studied his record-breaking year

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in great detail. He would not have had the smooth tarmac we have today.

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He would have had to ride on rough roads like this, granite settops,

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almost hard compact it tracked. Most of his days he was averaging 16 or

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20 miles an hour. All year round. Rain, wind, hail smoke, he was out

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there. 1939, one of the worst winters for a long time. He was

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riding through snow, ice, he crushed countless times, terrible weather

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conditions. Still, he persevered. Sundays, Tommy would ride the

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equivalent of London to Manchester on what today would be a museum

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piece of a bike. I have a bike similar to the bike Tommy would have

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written. You have a modern-day bike. Can I compare the wait? That is like

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one finger. Despite. Ella Bob in this bike weighs �16. The replica

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bike would have weighed about 28 or 29. You have the gears. He had as

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great -- state of the art bike to ride on. My bike has 30 years.

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needed to fuel the miles and he consumes far more than two and half

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thousand calories needed by the average man. In front of us, a

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typical day. He would have eaten between 6000 and 10,000 calories

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every day to keep itself going. see a lot of food but no meat?

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was a vegetarian after working in the pie shop. Put him off?It put

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him off and he was vegetarian. a few cakes. Yes, three o'clock in

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the afternoon was his treat time. Having done 100 or 125 miles, you

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would want something to look forward to. For much of the year he was

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unsupported. Peacock took the miles by riding regular routes between his

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home in Stoke and Hemel stamps -- Hemel Hempstead, sometimes going

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further afield in search of better weather. Every day, he had to log

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his mileage. It had to be verified by someone in authority, like a

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policeman or vicar, then he was ready to post it to the cycling

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magazine. On October 26, 1939, two months shy of the full year, he rode

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into Trafalgar Square with the record in the bag. On he rode,

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eventually clocking up over 75,000 miles. It has never been beaten and

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will not be. Modern athlete tried recently and abandoned after just

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three months. The effort its toll. Niall Hemmings Road with Tommy as a

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boy. I'm writing thinking when he achieved the record he had to learn

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how to walk again? I remember when you shook hands with him, his hands

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were very clenched, very sinewy. Obviously his feet were the same. He

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had to have physiotherapy and support at hospital to help him walk

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again. Looking at his diary, in this week alone, Tuesday, 295 miles,

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Wednesday, 360. I would moan, having to drive 361 miles in a car. He had

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a day off because he was invited to meet the Prince of Wales. He has put

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in his diary, past the record, day off, Prince of Wales. People around

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him must be very proud of his achievements. Tommy died at a

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relatively young age of 63. He collapsed after a social ride to a

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castle. He may be gone but I have got a feeling that record will stay

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be beaten? It is astonishing, when you work out day-to-day what he had

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to do, and with the equipment, the bikes, the clothing - everything,

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the road surface. Unbelievable. bloke who might be able to give it a

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go of course is Sir Bradley Wiggins, who is out of the Tour de France

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because of injury. I know Bradley will be bitterly disappointed. It is

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frustrating. It is part of what makes sport exciting, as you know

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anything can happen at any time. It makes his achievements last year all

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the more amazing because he was able to overcome the pitfalls along the

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way, to not be ill or have a crash and to perform at that level. He'll

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bounce back. How is life for you now as a cycling spectator. You

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announced your retirement two months ago. Has it sunk in? I think it did

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when I watched the World Championships back in February. I

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was then still making up my mind whether I was going to continue on

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to the Commonwealth Games. I watched the World Championships at Minsk. It

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was weird watching and not being there, but I thought I had made the

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right decision. My body is at the end of its life as far as a

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professional cyclist is concerned. Have you noticed a difference in

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your thighs? I've noticed I can get my jeans on a little easier.

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what's next? I have barely had a day off since I've retired. I thought

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retirement was supposed to be injury. I'm now ambassador for the

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Commonwealth Games in 2014 in Glasgow. I'm ininvolveded with the

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youth Olympic bid for Glasgow. So many different things and

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opportunities. It is great. You can help out with charity events and

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help people get involves in cycling. You are passing on your experience

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to people who can ride bikes. What's the biggest challenge for the likes

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of us? I don't know if you saw the episode of the Simpsons where Homer

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got to design a car. It is not like that surely! He builds a car which

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is great for himself but no-one in the world wanted it. Ehis horn play

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played the Copacabana. The difficulty was not designing a bike

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that I thought would be perfect more me but no good for anyone else but

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to get one that's ideal for the leisure market. There'll be a full

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range going up to the top level bike soon. It is just about getting back

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on your bike, reminding yourself what it was like when you were

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getting into sport. The things that got you off the bike, the things

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that within uncomfortable, the things that you liked. Is there a

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basket, is there a bell? It is a practical bike but there are neither

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of those on it, I'm afraid. You have to buy them as extras? It is easy to

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ride, it is light. Hopefully people will enjoy them. And you've moved on

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to four wheels. I've not seen this. Check out your corners. How long

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have you been doing this? I had a road track car I've been using every

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now and then. This is a new thing I've started again this year, the

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Radical SR one cup. It is the most fun I've had on four years. And how

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far do you want to take this, Chris? Is I'm realistic. It is amazing fun,

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a great adrenaline rush. It is a new thing. It is exciting when you are

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with 37 years of age and doing something new. Do you feel you've

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got a knack for it? I don't think I've got a knack for it but I enjoy

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it. You are very good at going high speed round and round in circles.

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is the corners. From your book, you said you had retired from five

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sports by the the time you were 18. You've obviously got the competitive

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drive you had since you were a lad. Yes, and it is nice to have

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something you can vent it on. When you're on a track you're giving

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everything you possibly can. You're raising as fast as you can to win

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the race, but if you don't win it, you're not devastated if you lose.

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Cycling, I've loved it all my life, I've done it since I was a wee boy,

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but at the Olympic Games there's a lot of pressure, so it is nice to do

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something with no pressure. We wish you all the best. Now here is Cerys

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Matthews with a tale of monks, and wizards and magic.

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2013 is a huge year for Derry Londonderry having been awarded UK

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City of Culture all eyes are on this once troubled town. And never more

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so than this weekend when the city's people will take part in a huge

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parade to celebrate the return of which patron saint Colum. He was a

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member of the O'Neill clan, a privileged family from the north of

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Ireland. But 1,500 years ago, and with 3,000 dead on his conscience he

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fled in shame to Iona. Here he repented and began to preach peace

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and lover. Rumour has it has he fought a monster in the river Ness.

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He returned to Ireland and set about establishing monasteries to spread

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his word. The first one is rumoured to be lying under the church here in

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the centre of town. Frank boys aim aims to replicate the success of the

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Olympics opening ceremony. The thing for me was the volunteers. All

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races, all classes, all abilities. To do that in a small city is even

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more exciting. It would settle have a big impact. And the performers are

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locals aren't they? They are almost all from Derry. At a secret location

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on the edge of town locals congregate to rehearse and build

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giant floats in preparation for this big weekend. So this is Dopey Dick.

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This killer whale swam up the Rover Foyle in 1977 but with the goodwill

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of the people of Derry it escaped to the open seas. John, what's going on

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here? This is the Amelia air Hart fulcrum. In 1932 Amelia air heart

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crashed a plane on her way to Canada. -- Amelia Earhart. I don't

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like flying but I do like dressing Derry women are renowned for their

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glamour but these 20 foot motorised dresses are something else. Do you

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need a driving lesson? On board this huge ship a nod to the city's

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maritime past, local musicians will be performing and reviving the myth

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of this famous patron saint. There's never been anything about Colum

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before. He was a good warrior cheeft taken who believed there was

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different ways of achieving those ends. And Derry songs on the day?

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Yes, the new streets of Derry, a song I wrote.

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# As I walked home through the streets of Derry... #

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But these giant contraptions aren't the only things hitting the city at

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the weekend. At the end of the evening we are bringing a gigantic

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Loch Ness monster up the loch and there'll be a showdown between the

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Saints and this huge monster the size of a church. Also back home

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this weekend is legend legendry songwriter who wrote

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Congratulations. I wonder if you will teach me a beautiful song,

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please. It will be a great pleasure. # There was music there

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# In the Derry air # Like a language that we all could

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understand # I remember the day that I earned

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my first pay # When I played in the small pick-up

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# There I spent my youth and to tell you the truth

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# I was sad to leave it all behind # For I learned about life

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# And I found a wife # In the town I loved so well #.

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APPLAUSE Cerys, beautiful. A legendry song

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and writer. It was a lot of fun visiting Londonderry Derry. There's

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lots of things coming out. The longest day of the year, Friday 21st

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June. They are really turning the city into the music city. They've

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got a sky orchestra. Do you know what that is? No idea.They are

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going to set off in seven hot-air balloons at dawn, playing music.

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Ethereal. As the sun comes up they'll have music. They'll have

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musicians from all over the world, from Cuba, Beirut players and Harare

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as well. Local musicians amateur and professionals. And this is a really

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exciting events, 11th to 18th August the first all -island fleadh, that

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is singing is, dancing, a lot of Gaelic speaking as well. Derry

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Londonderry is the first UK City of Culture. The next one is in four

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years' time. The nominations are in now. Applications are now closed.

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All around the country is represented, from Aberdeen, Swansea,

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Dover, Canterbury. The short-list is announced by the end of this month

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and the winner announced by November. Aberdeen or Dundee Chris,

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what do you reckon? I used to go to University in St Andrews, across

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from Dundee. Either will be nice. Are we going to finish with a bit

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more music? It is a classic song. The words are 100 years old but the

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tune is much older. It is an Irish tune published in 1855. It toes:

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# Tis I'll be there in sunshine or in shadow

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# Oh Danny Boy # Oh Danny Boy I love you so #.

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APPLAUSE Beautiful. Can you play Teenage

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Kicks? You need electric guitars. Do you know this one? Yes!I wanna hold

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Cerys, thank you and thanks for bringing your guitar. Don't panic

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but we won't be here tomorrow. We have a day off. To explain why, it

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is over to Holly and Reggie from The Voice.

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Hi Alex and Matt and to you Sir Chris Hoy. We are very sorry to be

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taking over at seven. 00pm on BBC One tomorrow. It is the first live

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shows of The Voice UK. We've got a brand-new set. Take a look. She's a

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beautiful thing. The 12 termified the acts and four shy and retiring

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coaches. And for the first time this series viewers can have their say on

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who stays and who goes. I cannot wait. That's tomorrow night at

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seven. 00pm on BBC One. Our coaches have been sitting in those red

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chairs forever. Any tips on saddle soreness? I reckon vaseline, Paddick

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shorts and you don't wear underwear. No seams. Do you go for the one pair

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or two? Just the one.Earlier we asked for pictures of of you with

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your first bike and we have had low your first bike and we have had low

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loads of them in. My first bike in 1961, I had to pay ten shillings a

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week to a local hardware store, Jez Jed Parker. Mike, getting ready to

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rev up on my first bike. Isn't that wonderful? Thank you.

:28:51.:29:00.
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And this is J Taylor on her Raleigh bicycle aged seven. Nina from

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Margate in her back garden in 1951 riding her bike.

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This is ten-month-old Stephanie Williams on her first bike. That's

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