10/03/2017 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Angela Scanlon.

And my co-host for tonight, the one and only Jeremy Vine!

Tonight we are welcoming one of Britain's most original directors,

and the start of her new film... You are needed in the studio in two

minutes, are you ready? Are we ready?...

13 minutes. Well, we'll do better next time! After all of that, he's

decided to go more casual! Please welcome Hugh Bonneville

and Gurinder Chadha. That look like quite a production in

and of itself, getting into those costumes every day. Lord Mountbatten

loved a bit of finery, he loved his uniforms. Absolutely, yes. He did

not want to spend more than two minutes pressing, and so he got his

staff, particularly when he was out in India to fast track him, and he

got zippers into the Navy, elastic to lace ups on issues, he would slip

them on. Very practical man, great inventor. The joy of going to a

different time and a different place, the joy of period. I had

never before done a period film, so to go back to 1937... I have watched

a lot of period films but I have never seen Indians in period

costume. -- 19 47. So I freak out when I see Indians with round

glasses, you know, in 1940s costumes. But obviously, the big

man, Lord Mountbatten, was very particular about his medals. --

1947. And so was my costume designer. It looks very

straightforward, but you do not know the choreography that was involved

in all of those medals! What we were allowed to use, how we had to do it.

You wear it very well! To demonstrate, it's all to do

with instant custard. I promise it will be

a trifle exciting. It'll be an exciting

day tomorrow too for Lincoln City fans

when they become the first non-league team to play

in the quarter finals of the FA Ahead of the big match

against Arsenal, sports reporter Mark Clemmit has

been to meet the brothers managing swapping school sports fields

for the Emirates stadium. Here in this bourbon exes -- this

suburban Essex street, two brothers are planning one of the biggest

upsets in British football history, world months ago, they were PE

teachers at a school in Essex, then they gambled everything by quitting

their day jobs and moving almost 150 miles away to manage Lincoln City,

they are the Cowley brothers and they have led the club on an

unbelievable run in the FA Cup, even claiming the scalp of Premier League

Burnley. LAUGHTER This is one of the great shocks in

the competition, Lincoln City have made history! VOICEOVER: The first

non-league club in over a century to contest a quarterfinal in the FA

Cup, they play Arsenal tomorrow in the game of their lives. Nice to see

you. Can you quite believe everything that has happened over

the last 12 months? It has been crazy, definitely it has been manic.

This time last year, preparing for GCSEs! It has been a bit of an

adventure since then. People will be watching this and think, they gave

up a secure teaching job for the precarious world of football

management, what were you thinking. You only have one life, it is about

making the most of it. We have always wanted to be in professional

football, having the opportunity to manage full-time at Lincoln City was

one that was too good to turn down. Behind the brotherly management

team, another management team, mum and dad, Jill and Steve. Almost from

when they were walking, kicking a sponge ball around, yeah. Danny is

three years older, Nicky was an extra one, for the team! To go to

the park. Has there been any moment you have ever known where they have

fallen out. They have had arguments and little scraps, they have been

pulled apart a couple of times! LAUGHTER

But, no, nothing that has gone into the next day. Do you make the

connection between little boys kicking a little ball about, and

what they are now doing? No, you just... You don't make the

connection. It's still really seems... It is surreal, because it

has happened so quickly, but every now and again, it will hit you,

you'd pick up the newspaper, turn to the back page, you see their faces

on it. Or, when they won at Burnley, the front pages! And it is a

complete shock. What if a really big opportunity came along for one of

you but not the other...? No, I would never do that. I really

wouldn't. If anybody could not see that our relationship was the reason

why we have had the success we have had, then they would not be the

right people to work for. How big an impact is the brothers success

having on their wives, Lauren and Kate? It is exciting, but I'm

expecting it to end, I think the bubble might burst, but we will be

the ones bursting. Kids are so excited. Do you think the kids know

what is going on? With school and things, have you been getting other

kids coming up and saying, your dad is Danny Cowley and all of that?

Yeah, yeah. Makes it all worth it. All the hard work is paying off.

Staggering, how far they have come. For us, it is great, that we have

the support of the family, because without that, it just wouldn't be

what it is. STUDIO: Follow the match

on Five live tomorrow. As the director of Bend It

Like Beckham could the Cowleys' I think it is a beautiful story,

look at the lovely parents, everyone so proud, if the team need to go

further, they need to get in an Indian girl, who can bend it...

LAUGHTER When we made the film, I had to show

it to David Beckham first, so we went up to Manchester, and the

cinema was laid on, free popcorn, free nachos and David Beckham was

getting all of this, he brought these two young kids with him, I

asked my husband... My husband said, it is Gary and Phil Neville!

LAUGHTER They looked like little boys!

Presumably the boys approved as well. Well, they had their free

nachos and they went in. Let's go back to Viceroy's House,

you play Lord Mountbatten who was given the task of giving

India back to her people. It is about partition, it is about

independence. He was a naval man, a man of action,

really, I suppose, and he was not a natural diplomat. And he said to the

king, he said, I don't think I can do this, what if I fail? Was a man

on used to failure, in his eyes. And the king apparently said, yes, but

what if you succeed, and that was enough to spur him on, he was a man

who likes to be at the centre of things. The British would agree that

they would hand back India but they ran into the quicksand and could not

get people to talk to each other and Lord Mountbatten, for any other

faults he may have had, he was good at getting people to talk together

and getting people to trust him and get round the table. The logjam was

broken. Here you are, with your

wife Lady Edwina, played by the lovely Gillian

Anderson, discussing the task ahead. I could not be blessed with a more

active, able wife, but sometimes we have to accept what we cannot

change. I know, but we can change a lot, Dickey, we really can, and we

absolutely have two. These problems are not just political, they are

social and economic, almost half the baby is born here die before age

five, that cannot be the British leave India after three centuries.

We have enough time to improve the infrastructure... That is not why we

are here. You will wear yourself out. APPLAUSE

Really, really, really hot that they! It looked lovely.

Gurinder, this film isn't just about the politics but also how

which is very personal to you isn't it?

I grew up in London under this shadow of the partition, the

foothills of the Himalayas, my ancestral homeland, that became a

new country, Pakistan, all my family had to leave. They became refugees

overnight, to cross over into India. That had always been a shadow over

me and the fact I never had a village, grandparents house where I

could say, that is where come from. It was only when I did my episode of

food you think you are, that I went back, and I went back to my

grandfather's house, I was a bit reticent about going, because it was

a different country. -- Who Do You Think You Are?. But when I got

there, I was overwhelmed with the welcome that I received, and the

whole town came out and said, you are our daughter, and coming, this

is your home, they threw flower petals at me, they gave me a shawl

and really welcomed me. And I saw how much pain there was with them as

well as on the other side. And at that point I felt I wanted to make a

film about the effects of 1947, and the partition of India, that nobody

really knows about, 40 million people became refugees overnight. I

wanted to make a film about the ordinary people and what had

happened to them. As you reregister story, did you think, hello, what I

was told school was not right? I learned that there is no such thing

as objective history, every author has an angle often depending upon

their surname and the country they come from. And so it was... It was a

horrible mess in many ways. It was inevitable that there was going to

be some tension but no one foresaw the bloodshed and the scale of the

refugee crisis. You sometimes wonder if we have ever learn from history.

You met the daughter of Mountbatten, to get a sense of that, was she

helpful him thinking you -- wishy helpful in helping new research? For

me, he had a ways been an establishment figure, central the

Royal family for so long, Mountbatten, though it was a bit of

a myth... To hear some family stories, to watch footage, home

movies of him lurking about at Christmas, that humanised him. We

wonder whether the Queen will watch it. I know that you have had a bit

of contact with Prince Charles. A few years back, when we were writing

the script, I met Prince Charles. I said I was making a film about his

uncle, and he was very interested about what we were basing it on, we

had a detailed chat, he mentioned other texts that we should look at,

apart from what I was already looking at. He has always been

interested, and when I saw him again a few times, he would say to me,

make sure the actor does this, my uncle did this, all the time!

Started giving us tips, directing tips. It was only when I went to the

Palace recently, for the celebrations, the celebrations

between Britain and India for the anniversary of independence, that I

did my usual... With everybody, waiting, shaking hands with the

Queen, and... She was told who I was, and about my film, and she

said, I have seen the trailer, when can I see the film? Well, she can

see it! Viceroy 's house is in cinemas now.

Our next film celebrates a food that was a real

And chef Tony Singh loves it so much, he's dressed as one

There is a British puddings celebrating a very special

anniversary this year, happy 50th birthday, Angel delight! First

launched in 1967, those very same people that brought ask us to

powder, Bird's, we have been stocking this instant desert in

kitchen cupboards for 50 years. -- brought us. It epitomised the

instant food revolution which included other favourites such as

Smash and Cup-a-Soup. By the 1970s, they had double the market for

instant desert, as this cheap and convenient powder pudding became a

hit with households up and down the country. The thing about Angel

delight, is that it tastes deliciously creaming. But does it

still have a place in the 21st-century kitchen? How do you

keep Angel Delight up to date, modern, what are you doing now, what

is different? We are launching a ready to eat Angel delight in pots.

A sick, whisk it up, pop it in the fridge, what is the difference? The

pots are made from the same ingredients as the sashays but we

have added the milk and we have with it and he did the product so that it

has a long shelf life without any preservatives. As if the package one

convenient enough. -- and we have heated the product. Angel Delight

Has cropped up in a variety of flavours, including black cherry,

peach, popcorn, and even bubble gum! So, can it be made into any flavour?

What about my signature desert, passion fruit powder over? You went

from this... To this... We have, would you like to taste it? I would

love to, it smells of passion fruit. -- passion fruit pavlova. The Angel

delight starter is an unflavoured mix. -- Angel Delight. The passion

fruit and Moran flavouring is added to it. You can tell it is passion

fruit. -- passion fruit and merangue.

Growing up, Strawberry was my favourite flavour. Still the most

popular, we launched with that in 1967.

The most delightful taste around! Let's face it, this is no desert

worthy of serving in my restaurant, but could it be given a makeover by

using it as an ingredient in something as Scots consider quite

classy, I am going to make the national desert of Scotland, one

that is definitely worthy of a birthday celebration, but instead of

whipped cream, I am going to be using Strawberry Angel delight.

Fresh raspberries... A dollop of honey... And of course, the Angel

Delight. Honey, loads of fruit, dead light,

lovely. It's usually made with whisky but not today. Mine is going

to be family-friendly. So what will the good people make of it? And will

anybody be able to guess that I made it with angel delight? Yoghurt of

some sort? No. You like it? Have a taste. Yoghurt and oats. Can you

guess what it is? No. It's nice and light. Angel Delight. You've got it

- on the nose. If I was to say we've got Angel Delight in there. Wow.

Nice ain't it? Very nice. Only one person guessed I used Angel Delight

but everyone seemed to like it. Well, almost everyone. There you

have it, an empty pot says it all. Here's to another 50 years of Angel

Delight. That was pure joy. Another Angel Delight lover Joe is here to

tell us about more instant food. You have got some Angel Delight here.

What is your favourite flavour? We used to fight over the strawberry.

Angela's never had Angel Delight, not even rehearsing today. So let's

just watch this. It's nice. Do you like that? Nice

actually. Joe, you have the coffee one. I have camp coffee that goes

all the way back to 1876. It has a link to India. It's thought it was

requested by the Gordon Highlanders who were fighting imperial battles

overseas and they wanted something a bit more practical than grinding up

coffee beans on the field. They wanted something that could be mixed

with hot water and they drink this coffee. So that's where it came

about. What is interesting is, we have got a picture of the label.

That is what I was going to say, I remember the label. That is the very

original one. You see a Highlander sitting being served his camp coffee

by a Sikh man servant thought to be the soldier, general Sir Major

Hector McDonald. When you go forward a few decades, that's seen adds

imperialist, it raises issues about being racist, offensive. The label's

changed. They change it subtly and take out the tray which maybe

doesn't do a lot. Then in 2006, you have this. The soldier sitting side

by side with the Sikh. As recently as 2006? Yes, both have coffee in

their hands, no-one's served anyone. We should talk about the man behind

Birds because we are going to get to the custard explosion soon which I

know everyone is excited about. He was an interesting chap? Al freshed

Bird came up with custard powder in 1837, his first big success. The key

to it was it was egg free. His wife was allergic to eggs, I suspect it

was a labour of love therefore. He wanted to share the joy of custard

with his wife. He created this egg-free powder and it was a huge

success. The joy of custard! It was a very popular desert that his wife

had been denied unfortunately. This was her first opportunity. It was

very successful, it outsold many of the egg-based custards that were on

sale but it has this unusual quality that in powdered form, it's

explosive, it's very, very flammable. In all seriousness, there

was an explosion at the Banbury factory in 1881 and people were

hurt. Stuart, are you safe to proceed with this explosion of

custard? Thumbs up. Please, please, don't try this at home. Ready?

Three, two, one... That's custard exploding. Amazing.

Let us see that again in slow motion. Watch that again, right to

the top of Broadcasting House. And that is a very small amount of

custard powder as well. 300 grammes. Be careful with that stuff. Does it

work with Angel Delight? We don't dare try. What about Birds

Trifle? Next week. From instant food to instant success for the band who

raised their first single Tainted Love. Gary's been to say hello and

wave goodbye to Soft Cell. The Soho of days gone by. That Neon-lit back

street Bohemia was the inspiration for a young northerner experiencing

London night life for the first time. Marc a Almond of Soft Cell.

The hit record Say Hello, Wave goodbye, was set in Soho. I thought

Soho was London, that was it. I thought it was a magical place. He

formed a band with Dave Ball after they met at art college in Leeds.

Their reworking of an old track went on to become the best-selling single

of 1981. Dave was the musical mastermind behind the trademark

sound. Teenage years was northern soul. When I heard Craft work, it

was the sound of the synthesizer and I was like, I wanted to know how the

sound was made and it was the idea of the machine with the soul singer,

the blueprint for Soft Cell. Soft Cell were ambitious to make their

music go further. Say Hello, Wave goodbye was one of the main songs we

did. We wanted the vibe to sound a bit 60s, so I did what Phil Spector

would do with a synthesizer. It was like a power ballad, I suppose. Set

it in a Soho scene and the influences were 60s films, the

black-and-white ones, tabloid headlines like the Politician and

the Dancer or the Lord and the Show girl. I wanted it to be a song which

told the story of characters, having an illicit affair. She's being needy

and embarrassing, so he's singing, go away, I'm finished with you now,

I've had a good time, so wave goodbye and she's left standing in

the rain. Always strikes me it's a dark song? I like bitter sweet

songs. They have that pop sound to them but they are also quite dark,

have a dark edge to the lyrics as well. The Neon-infused video was

directed by Tim Pope, also a fan. That was their sound and Marc's

slightly off key vocals and the arrangement and drama and the sort

of delightly parochial quality that I think the lyrics had got were

fascinating and interesting. Just wonderful atmospheric, almost like

film music in a way which enables me to cut my teeth and film it in an

interesting and dark sort of way. It was the edgier side to Soft Cell

that attracted criticism, not to mention the eye liner. I remember

when the Say Hello Wave Goodbye on Top of the Pops, I took the glasses

off and there were loads of complaints about the make-up. It was

like walking down the street, getting hurled abuse at you, it was

scary but thrilling. We empowered a lot of people. Marc was very daring

and brave to do what he did. I think that's fantastic. 35 years on, the

original song has been covered many times by other artists. Marc himself

has recorded several versions. Today, it's a special performance

back in Soho just for The One Show. # Standing at the door of the Pink

Flamingo # Crying in the rain... #

. It was always a favourite with the fans. We always finished a set with

it. # Take your hands off me

It's a song that I felt in my heart was last as a Soft Cell classic,

more than other sings. That's the song that sums me up as an artist I

think. # Say hello, goodbye.

# Say hello, wave goodbye. # Say hello, then wave goodbye.

. Brilliant. The Best of Marc Almond

and Soft Cell is out today. We have seen you around the office. We have

got a very exclusive clip that we are going to show, featuring none

other than Sir Lenny Henry now. It's great that you could come in for

this, Lenny. In terms of things for you on the night itself, Siobhan has

been doing... You see this year the idea is funny. Funny. You are so

going to love this. Brilliant. Brilliant. Right OK put it on. I'm

not wearing that OK. The thinking is Lord Lenny, it's like Lord Nose. No.

I'm not wearing that OK. He's not a Lord, Siobhan, he's a Sir. I'm

sorry, I'm not doing this OK. OK well it's good to have clarity on

this. Is it? So that's all good. APPLAUSE.

What would the BBC's head of values make of this show tonight? I think

bearing in mind that every problem is a solution waiting to happen, I

think this is one enormous solution and you have triumphed with it.

Triumphed again. What about that? ! What a shoe to work on. We enjoy it

immensely don't we? Of course you started in the Beeb? At radio WM at

Pebble Mill. I used to read the travel news, the weather and the M1

junction 16 was the bane of my life. Still the bane of many people's

lives. That show is very funny. If you have ever had any associations

with the BBC... It's not a comedy, it's a documentary. It's very

affectionate though. Very hard to walk in here though and not to go,

are we not going to Frankie Howard's, we end up saying all that,

don't sghe Absolutely! We have had a brilliant week of guests and there's

more to come next week. Next week on the one show: Harry

Hill. Jake gillen Hall. Rebecca Ferguson. Ryan Reynolds. Sheena

eastern. Dan Stevens. And not forgetting The One Show team entry

to Let's Sing Dance for Comic Relief. That's almost it for

tonight. A huge thank you to Hugh and Gurinder.

# Do, do, do, come on and do the Conga...

What's going on? Firstly, who blows up custard? ! We do. Just the once.

That's madness. I'm here to tell you, Red Nose Day starts in two

weeks, 24th March, download your starter pack from the website, raise

money, anything at all, pence or pounds, we'll take anything. We are

Conga-ing, come on, get up! # Do, do, do, come on and do the

Congo...