12/07/2012 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones and Matt Baker.

With us tonight is a woman looking for Jesus. Some spend a lifetime

trying, she's only got a few weeks, it is Mel C! APPLAUSE Welcome back.

Lovely to see you. Looking gorgeous. Thank you very much. So, you're a

new judge on Lord Andrew Lloyd Webber's Search for Jesus? Yes, I'm

brand new. The live shows start on Sunday. So, what instructions has

he given? What is he looking for? OK. Well, basically, people who

know the show, it is incredible. It is rocky and soulful. Not what you

expect from musical theatre. So they must be strong with the vocals,

with their acting ability and lots of car is mar. I think

vulnerability. Some have gone with it, long hair and beards, are they

barking up the wrong tree with that? Well, we are not being biased,

going with the image of what we believed Jesus would have looked

like, but there is a lot of facial hair, which is not a bad thing.

have seen one with blonde hair, I think he is brilliant. He looks

like a lion. Oh, yes. We understand that you have Jason Donovan to

thank for your part as Mary? When I was asked to be the TV show, I love

Jesus Christ Superstar. I was really happy to do it. The role of

Mary Magdalene was a dream. I thought it was beyond my

capabilities, but working with Lord Andrew Lloyd Webber and Jason

Donovan. I mentioned to Jason that I would love to do it. He said to

go for it. To mention it to Andrew, but he had never thought of it. He

would love me to do it. Where were you when you got the call? I was at

home. I thought it was someone trying to sell me something. Then I

realised it was Lord Andrew Lloyd Webber, so, hello! OK, with the

Barclays scandal, the latest in a long line of bad bank behaviour,

the reputation of some High Street bank names could hardly be lower,

but if you have had enough and you want to put the money elsewhere,

what do you do? Well, Matt Allwright considers the options.

Banks, faceless, impersonal, and at the moment, downright disliked. You

have the LIBOR, the LIBOR rate fixing scandal. Complicated,

expensive and it contains the word lie. The NatWest Royal Bank of

Scotland, computer fas co. You cannot turn it on again. Massive

tax avoidance, massive bonuses. The little pins on the chain. I hate

them. However, switching from the scandal-hit larger banks to smaller

banks, and building societies or credit unions appears to be the

trend. New current accounts of building societies are up 50%. The

Independent Commission on Banking wants us all to be able to switch

accounts whenever we want. Last week in Parliament, the Prime

Minister said that would happen. Being able to move your bank

account. That will be in place later this year. But some people

are not waiting. Rachel and Sam Matthews have moved all of their

accounts from two of the big four banks to the smaller, "". After the

recession, it did not seep a -- seem a acceptable message to sit

around and do nothing. The easiest thing for a customer to do is to

step outside of that field by moving their accounts to an ethical

banks. What were the worries? really wanted to ensure that I

could move to someone that I trusted. We used Moving Money UK to

look at the ethical Rae ratings on the banks and see what the options

were. Banking jargon can be confusing and a barrier to moving.

Most High Street banks are owned bir shareholders who want to make a

profit, but a mutual is owned by the customers. A bank's ethical

ratings is based on factor as to where they invest their money and

the environmental policy. The Government ensures that up to

�85,000 of savings is in any of them. Got that? Good. You can move

your money. So, if your campaign has an effect, what would you like

the High Streets of five or ten years' time to look like? More

varied. Lots of different players. A large presence of mutuals, new

building societies. Credit unions to have shop fronts on the High

Street so, people in need for credit know where they can go. A

lot of it happening off the High Street, online. Is it possible if

people are disenchanted with the financial system to live without

banking? No. We all need transactions, saving accounts,

insurance, I would not advocate anyone putting their money under

the mattress, but we need a diversified financial sector,

different business models, serving different markets, and alternatives

so we are not reliant on the big four. The recent computer glitch

experienced by RBS and NatWest, proved it is just impossible to

live without banks. 17.5 million customers struggled to access money

for over a week. I have electric, gas, food to supply. You need the

money out of the bank, they are not willing to take it out, even though

it is there. But the sudden outburst of switching and swapping

does not convince money saving expert, Martin Lewis that will have

the banks quaking in their boots. It is still a drop in the ocean

that we need for the numbers to switch. We need it make it easier.

A portable bank account number is a solution that I am very much in

favour of. I hope that it will teach people across the nation that

when you walk into the bank, it is there to sell to you. You must know

that or you cannot make the right decision it is a sales-based not an

advisory institution. So it seems that choosing to move your cash

will not necessarily bring the big four banks to their knees, but it

could help to create smaller, more specialised financial institutions,

that could give these boys a run for their money, or our money. Call

that a bonus?! Well, lots of food for thought there. Now we talk more

with BBC Five Live's Declan Curry. Declan, you have a business

programme on a Sunday night, On The Money, there is lots of

correspondent out there with the listeners, what is it people are

saying? People are angry. In a nation where we are more likely to

get divorced than change the bank accounts, people are looking in big

numbers at new accounts. Stop four people out there three of them have

the same bank account that they have when they left school. Whether

they drawn in by the hippos or the pigs. It is a big lure, the piggies.

But Declan, if people want to switch their current account to a

different bank, how easy is it? It seems like a lot of work? It is

meant to be easy. As simple as you pick a new bank, you walk into that

bank, you say to them, I am a customer of this old bank over here,

I want to switch my account to you. They are then meant to take on all

of the switching of your bills and your payments and your direct

Debities and standing orders and they are meant to do it in ten days.

You are not supposed to have to worry about a thing at all. Now,

thing dos go wrong, so there are tips: One is to keep the old

account open for a couple of months. Keep some money in it in case a

bill is not transferred across. Two: In the new account ask the

bank for some sort of interest-free overdraft to keep you tieded over

until the first pay cheque is in. Third, don't forget to pel your

boss that you are moving to a different bank, so they know it put

the cheque in the right bank. heard that David Cameron wants to

make it easier for people to move banks, what is being proposed?

a lot. They are talking about it being done in ten days, that the

banks will switch in seven days. There is more excitement on the

part of the consumer groups like Which?, Martin Lewis mentioned the

idea of a portable bank account number. So it is like a phone

number, if you move to another bank you take that number with you. The

people in favour of this say it means that it is less likely that

direct Debities will get lost in the system during the switching.

Talk to others, they say that is not the problem, but the problem is

that the banks take too long to do it, they make it look complicated

when it is not. There you go. Everything you wanted to know about

banking in six minutes. Now, after all of that talk about anger, let's

all, you at home as well, take a deep breath... Calm down. You are

doing it?! Declan is doing it! all did it! Are you still angry?

That is the question. Maybe you need a shout to let it all out.

Giles has the person to shout at. Once in a while, tempers fray, they

just do. It can't be avoided. For most, there is a range of triggers,

this makes them blow their gaskets. For goodness sake! What is making

you angry? Bankers in general. They get away with what they want.

People doing the wrong thing, jumping fares, doing this, that.

The weather... Education. Complaining, complaining...

husband is angry about everything. The bus routes... Whatever gets

your goat, holding on to that anger can't be good for you? Anger is an

emotion, it is a feeling. It is the fight or flight response you see in

animals. So adrenaline is being pumped to the muscles, they get

ready for the action, they get ready to fight. I have had a

frustrating day, the M4 is a nightmare it is raining. I feel

like I will burst a blood vessel. You can increase heart problems,

cardiac problems if you feel like that, it is not good in the long-

term. What do you want?! I was told... Don't give that! Monty

Python fans may remember the Argument Clinic, but imagine if it

was real? Well, believe it or not, it now is. I came in here for an

argument! Sorry, this is abuse. There is a telephone service where

you can call up and vent your anger and frustration down the phone. I

cannot get a signal, I have -- so I have come to the operation to meet

the ladies who run it. So, who kaels you? Mostly professional

people. Depending on how angry you are and how you express your anger,

you may get loud, scream, shout, curse or just cry. We are there to

ask you the right questions, it really does give you a release.

there a code? Do you allow bad language? You can swear, use bad

language. Scream and shout. We don't mind. Screaming and shouting

I go along with, the bad language I do not approve of. What is your

colleague here... This is so annoying, this is not planned.

Hello, the anger service. You have seven minutes and 32 seconds left.

What is it you would like to vent about today? I think it is time to

let the stress folk of Stratford, let off steam. Get out of the

middle lane, move to the inside lane so I can get my vehicle

through. David Cameron pull your finger out. Sort it out, this is is

a proper East End person talking. Argh! Oh, it did feel good! I think

it is high time I did a bit of venting myself. I tell you what

makes me angry. I come to this beautiful part of London and

everyone is complaining, telling me how angry they are. Well, I tell

you it gets on my wick... He's still going Would they have this

lovely station? The other day they wanted rain... He is still going on.

What are your triggers, what makes your angry, Mel? People who drive

on the phone. People who don't indicate when they drive and

litterbugs. Don't get him started. I don't like that. Nor the voice in

the ear that says move on! Are the It is happening now. So, after the

first week, you witled it down. Let's have a look at who you have

# I see you got your smile back... I'm watching, I'm interested.

Let's move on. It's very nice having lots of young, handsome,

talented men at singing at you. You've got 30 of these Jesus. What

happens now? The have another show on Saturday, where it goes down to

maybe 20 or 10. No come on Saturday we find our final 10. The live

shows start on Sunday. What happens, it's a week of live shows? Yes, we

go Sunday through to Friday. Then the following Monday to Wednesday,

which is the final when they find our Jesus. In its going to be

exciting. It must be quite interesting

looking for the person that you are going to be playing opposite. Does

that bring a different dynamic to it? Absolutely. And when I start of

the show I hadn't been cast in the room at that point, so it totally

changed the goalposts for me. But I'm still looking for the same.

Obviously it is kind of more important in a way. You initially

auditioned for the Spice Girls. How does it feel being on the other

side? You've obviously got a lot of empathy with the people. Absolutely.

I've done quite a few auditions before I started working with the

Spice Girls. I went to performing arts college, so why have a similar

background to a lot of guys on the show. Myself and Jason, we both

thought it was important for the guys we were sending home, to send

them home at feeling they've learnt from the experience, with really

constructive things to go away with. The vocal coach is very good.

is. I'm not singing for her, she scares me.

I do not believe you! So Polestar is on Saturday at 8pm

on ITV1. In the 64 years between London 1948 and London 2012,

there's been a revolution in how athletes prepare for the Games. The

One Show has been bringing together members from Team GB from then and

now to see what the biggest differences are. Tonight, we are

going for a little swimmer. Britain won six swimming medals at the last

Olympics. It was a stunning performance in the pool. Rebecca

Adlington became the new sporting star. But this year in London the

metal target is even higher. And there's a new Rebecca on the

starting blocks. 19-year-old Rebecca Turner surprised everyone

by qualifying for the Games, thanks to a huge finish at the British

championships. Rebecca Turner wins the trial. In doing so, she is

going to go to the Olympic Games on the 200 metres freestyle. When

London last hosted the Games in 1948, Britain's mum old Steadman

completed in the 100 metres freestyle. He is now 84 and is

The One Show has brought these two Olympians to get back at Rebecca's

training centre in Sheffield, to compare notes on swimming past and

present. In 1948, preparation for the Olympic finals was basic.

Swimming-pools were small and even Olympic athletes got no special

privileges. We had no indoor pools of 50 metres to his women at all in

England at the time. The access to the swimming pools was restricted.

A lot of my training had to be done in public sessions. We didn't

necessarily have frequent free access to an empty swimming pool.

We have to go in when the public were in and do the best we could.

To have the 50 metre pool here is a fantastic facility. What is your

coach like now at the moment? really important. As well as the

training, he reassures me that everything is going well. Ronald,

would you have liked to have a full-time coach in your

preparations? I think so. Today, swimming is virtually professional

now. Nowadays there were no amateurs. Everyone in those days

had to do a full-time job, as I was in the army. A lot of the girls had

to full-time jobs and swam in their spare time. Sometimes it would be

difficult to get time off on -- to do their training, but not on a

six-hour day basis. The over the past six decades, modern

professional coaching has helped swimmers go faster. In the blue

Riband event, the 100 metres freestyle or two lengths of the

pool, the 2012 the Libyans will cover the distance around eight

seconds quicker than their 1948 counterparts. -- the 2012 Olympians.

How many meals would you have a day? A bowl of cereal before

training, I have a protein shake after my first session then go and

have another bowl of cereal. A piece of fruit and then go and have

lunch. Before training have another piece of fruit or a snack, then a

sheikh after training again and teatime. Would you have had seven

portions of food a day? We didn't have enough food for that! In 1948

austerity Games, spectators came to watch the races at the Empire Pool,

Wembley Arena as we now know it, but this year they'll be coming to

the purpose-built Aquatic Centre. One of the biggest differences

between 1948 and now is what the swimmers wear. To be as quick as

they can, swimmers strive to be streamlined. Precise movements and

careful positioning of the body play a part. But when winning

margins mean a split-second, even the clothing is high-tech and

designed for gliding smoothly. put on a normal swimming hat, my

God calls and then another hat on top to keep the straps in. Two hats.

Yes, so it's all smooth and keeps everything together and the goggles

don't fall off. Then I have my racing suit underneath. The

swimsuit is very tight it squashes you altogether. It tightens you up

and reduces the extra drag. We had rather floppy ones! That's the

style I like. For the Olympics we were given costumes made of

polyester and nylon, so they were quite thin but weren't designed for

streamlining. The other thing we didn't wear well goggles. Now you

hear about the guys shaving, totally hairless to be smooth in

the water. The we weren't in that league. We were amateur swimmers

enjoying ourselves. We are already a nation that loves to swim and it

should be a strong event for us at the Games. Rebecca is going in the

200 metres freestyle, and her form is good. Ronald Steadman will be

among the millions urging her on. Melanie, you were waving that

before we came back. A massive supporter of Team GB. You are

losing fitness and well-being at the moment. You are looking so bad

yourself! You obviously still spend quite a lot of time working out.

Yes, it's so silly, I've got my nickname, Sporty Spice, but I do

love sport and keeping fit. I did my first triathlon last year. I'm

hooked. Unfortunately, this year I haven't got time to fit one in, but

it's something I want to do more of in the future. The last time you

were in we talked about a little bit about the musical, but now

girls all over Britain are waiting for an event, Viva Forever. You

can't wait! So exciting. It is happening eventually, the press

conference was a couple of weeks ago. Can you give us an idea of

what the musical is about? It is a wonderful show, we are really

pleased with how it's turned out. The wonderful Jennifer Saunders has

written the story. Basically, she was inspired by the Spice Girls'

music to write the show. It is about a girl band, but it's not the

Spice Girls, there's only four members of the band. They go to a

casting show process, a little bit like Jesus Christ Superstar and

that kind of thing. Yes, it's the trials and tribulations, it's about

relationships with mothers and daughters and friends and fame and

all of these things. It is funny and heart-warming and emotional.

It's got everything. Have you seen it yet? We'd seen workshops of both

acts. At that point macro they were brilliant. But it has moved on even

more. We are casting at the moment. Thinking back to that moment when

you saw the advert for the first time, we've got something for you.

This is the only one left, that's the original paper. That is what

you would have been looking at. I don't know if you can have it but

we can let you hold it and have a look at it. I actually got a flier,

so why didn't see it in the stage. But it was exactly the same. That's

a bit of history for you. Looking at the weather behind us, not

exactly perfect gardening weather but that never stops Christine.

Tonight, she's in a highly fashionable garden.

I was expecting this garden to be full of colourful blooms. It

belongs to Nicole Farhi, a leading fashion designer. Her summer

collection is full of colour. It was even based on flowers. Well,

that is the world of work for Nicole. It is full of colour. But

when I look at this garden, what do I see? Green, green and more green.

But look more closely and there are bursts of colour. I like perfusion,

I like disorder. Usually people who plant their flat was well planned

them in pots. It is very orderly. I hate order. I have no knowledge of

gardening. I just by what I like. It becomes sometimes overgrown.

there is a designer's I at work. For someone with no knowledge of

gardening, it is very clever. like different shades, texture,

different shades of the same colours. It is all in this garden.

A we've got a great contrast. This Bikey japonica. I love those great

things. I didn't know it was japonica. Then you've got the shape

of leaves here. The soft froth. These are great because they come

in different colours. Just look at the shade there, the contrast. Then

contrasting with the rhododendrons. I love them. You might have guessed

from that wonderful accent, Nicole grew up in France. But her parents

were Turkish and she has lived in England for 30 years. So she brings

a cosmopolitan approach to the garden. In fact, it was in India

that a friend's garden inspired her fashion range. I came back to my

office and said to my team, listen, I've got a good idea. We are going

to do a collection based on flowers. This was something we blew up and

printed on net. Another one was another print which we blew up to a

point that it became abstract. Here, we had some sequins cut into the

This is a beautiful walk. It is so atmospheric. It is lovely. You've

got some beautiful scented plants here. The Philadelphus coronarius

is gorgeous. That's right. There were even more before but sadly

they didn't last. These are smelling so delicious at the moment.

What is the story with the gazebo? It's quite a funny story. David, my

husband, wrote the screenplay of a film, Damage. By complete fluke,

this location scout knocked at the door and said, can I use the garden

for the film? They needed a gazebo for azine. They built it up so I

kept it. It's been there for about 20 years now. A super spot for a

gin and tonic in the evening! Around the garden are signs that

Nicole has another talent. These wonderful sculptures. It is

interesting you are using text in the garden, but you are also using

the sculpture. Your personality always comes out, always. Not only

in the garden but all aspects of your life. What do you think the

garden says about you? Probably it says that I am in formal, eclectic

and unruly, maybe. It's me, I think. Informal is a good word for it.

Gentle colours that don't clash, shrubs and plants that fill out and

tamed. The best sort of unruliness. A garden for living in. I wake up

in the morning, my bedroom is upstairs. The first thing I do, I

hear birds and lookout to the garden. I am happy. What a vision

that must be. I bet the house is lovely inside,

too. Arthur Smith is in it.

During the film we were scanning through this old copy where the

original Spice Girls advert was. If we looked to the right of the

advert, let's have a look. Over to the right... Is an illusionist's

assistant. That could have been you on a cruise. It could have been.

Any thoughts on that one? None. I'm speechless. Well, we look forward