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Hello. Welcome to the One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker. We're

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iness teemed company tonight. We are Lording it up with a down ton

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peer of the realm and a Walford Lady in Waiting. We booked a real-

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life butler. Colin, would you dot honours, please. Please welcome,

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Lord Fellowes of West Stafford and Miss Nina Wadia off the telly.

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APPLAUSE Ho do we get ourselves into these

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things? It would be nice if we had canapes. Julian, you've clearly met

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Colin before. He's a -- an important part of Highclere. It's a

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very big job. I have come across him before. As we'll be talking

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about, you've left or leaving EastEnders now? Would a period

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drama suit? What do you reckon? Have you brought your CV? I have!

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In just a few minutes, we've also got an exclusive look behind-the-

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scenes of the real Downton Abbey, Highclere castle, with their butler

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Colin, secret doors and all. With somebody else special who we will

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meet shortly. Winterwatch continues on BBC Two later. Through the power

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of this very special remote control, we can access - you're going to

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love this. I can't wait. We can love this. I can't wait. We can

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access their live cameras. There we go. Now these are two very young

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beavers. These are known as kits. We think that yes there you go,

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they may wake up. You can see one is actually, well, showing him in

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all his glory. You could always kick the box. That would wake them

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up. You're not a big fan of animals are you? Anything with more than

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two legs. Not even baby beavers. That is a little bit cute. Though I

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am in favour of shaking the box as well, I'm afraid. You'll be pleased

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to know we'll keep an eye on them throughout the night, then.

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can't wait never, can you? We'll see what else turns up.

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whatever you're having for tea tonight, we are guessing, if you've

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seen the news, that it's not burgers. Our very own food

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inspector, Matt Allright went to see what people thought. If you

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found out you had eaten a burger with horse meat in it, what would

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your reaction be to that? Would it be revulsion? Initial shock, and

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then I would wonder how it tasted. If it's horse meat, they were

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saying that some of the products which were beefburgers had pork as

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well. I'm not a pork eater. They muff tell the customers what is on

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the shelf. I have eaten, well, not a whole horse, I have eaten horse

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meat. Why did you find that acceptable? The same reason I find

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eating cows, lambs and all the other animals acceptable. It's a

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great source of protein. They're quite nice animals. People have a

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connection with horses like with dogs. Whether it's a cow, you don't

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have a connection with a cow. was to eat a horse, I might as well

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eat a dog. And a dog has a personality and I don't know what

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it is, it's just something I wouldn't do. The reason why you

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wouldn't eat the dog is the psychological connection with

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whatever the meat is. Recently been to Christmas market and had things

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like wild boar, spring bok, canning ree, how different is horse.

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there was horse meat in the supermarket, would you give it a

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go? 100%. We eat beef, lamb, pork, why not horses? Gosh. Matt, were

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you surprised by the public's reaction? I was surprised bit range

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of opinions. There was a chap there quite happy to give horse meat a go

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and then there were people who were disgusted. The common thread there,

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whether people were prepared to give horse meat a go or not was

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that they were disappointed to find out that there were things in their

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food that they didn't expect. They weren't clearly labelled. With all

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the guidelines and restrictions about the way we handle our food,

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this somehow has found its way onto the shelves. That's the worrying

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thing. That's the core question. It's not whether or not it's good

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to eat horse meat but that you should think you're buying beef and

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the fact is it's not pure. Absolutely. There are nations that

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eat horses. I'm not particularly anxious to do so myself. Clearly,

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it is a meat. Even with the distinction of companyed meat or

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whatever they call it, we eat rabbit. We have pet rabbits. It

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depends on the country. You can't tell people they're buying one

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thing and give them another. Exactly. We have to cover all bases

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here. It's not all beefburg thaerz we're talking about. There's a lot

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of British farmers worried about reputation. You even had burgers

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for your tea last night. Yes, we do. How do you feel if you found out

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there was horse in those burgers. Oh, my. I was taken by surprise. I

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would not be happy. I would not be happy. Going back to that point. It

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is just certain burgers. There are certain burgers from certain

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outlets which have proved a problem. And there is a widely available

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list of where they're coming from. If you have them, I mean it's your

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choice, you can take them back to the shop. They will give you a

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refund for those. That system is in place. How do you get your refund.

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You just test on them and discover they're horse meat. You don't have

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to test them yourself. There are specific brands which are affected.

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The shops have cleared the shelves of those items. Anything that comes

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back they'll give you your money. We mustn't be too provincial. The

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whole of the French nation eats horse meat and they all look pretty

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fit to me. But it's false advertising. You want to buy what

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it says on the packet. You've been doing the series Food Inspectors,

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are you surprised that a fast quantity of horse meat managed to

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get into the food chain? Again, we have to be clear, this is not a

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food hygiene risk as far as they tell us. This is not a problem to

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our health, but it is just raises questions. I've been to abattoirs.

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They are so strict about the way they handle meat. They have to be -

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there's so much paperwork associated with handling livestock.

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To -- for this to reach this stage, in one case a large proportion of

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horse meat in one product. Like nearly 30%. Yes. Matt, thank you

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very much. Food Inspectors is on later. Now down ton fans will know

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that head-buttler car ton for -- head butler carson has no time for

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any riff RAF. We got an exclusive insight to Highclere castle.

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I'd like to ipbtd deuce you to the biggest TV star in the world right

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now, yes it's Downton Abbey from hitd TV show, Downton Abbey. It

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turns out it's called Highclere Highclere castle near Newbury in

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Berkshire, it isn't just a film set. It is a real house, with a real

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family living here. Just like in Downton Abbey, they have a real

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butler called Colin Edwards. He's not called that in Downton Abbey.

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So the dining room. This is the state dining room. Before you eat,

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you have to polish the cutlery? it has been polished but we

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repolish it to take off all the fingerprints. Is this one of a few

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jobs that you do or, because it seems, when we watch Downton Abbey

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of course, there's a huge staff and they all have quite specific jobs.

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We tend to multitask. In the olden days there was a person to do every

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small job. One person would polish the cutlery. One person would wash

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it. But now, we have to do everything. There are two sides to

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Highclere, there's the very private side with the family. Then there's

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the very public side. It's the focus of attention around the globe

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now. The Americans are the main visitors. They're just over the

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moon. They're screaming when they come in. They just can't believe

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that they're going to see the actual inside of the house. The one

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thing I would like in my house is a system of bell pulls. Are they

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still working here? They're still here, they don't work. Just imagine

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you're down stairs and then you get ding, ding, ding and you've got to

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go. You get back and ding, ding, ding, the ladyship wants you. Then

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the Earl wants you. It's a long way. This is the modern bell pull. I'm a

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little bit disappointed. Just a little bit. But I know it's

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practical. There's been a house on this site since the 18th century.

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But in 1838 the home was transformed by Sir Charles Barry

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into the grand mansion you see today. Diana Mitchell has the job

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of explaining to ministers just what is fact and what is fiction.

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Are there places where there are eerie similarities between the

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history of Highclere and the fictional history of down ton?

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the second series of Downton Abbey, we're in the wartime now, in

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Downton Abbey this was a convalescent home. In real life in

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the First World War we were an operating theatre for officers.

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you have genuine points where the scenes being re-enacted here are

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earily similar to what was happening here at the same time.

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Absolutely, which makes it very interesting because you can relate

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to Downton Abbey because so much of it is following some of the lines

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of the life here in Highclere. Some of our visitors think we are

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Downton Abbey. Of course, meanwhile I'm wondering which bedroom it is

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here that all the saucy nonsense with the Turkish gentleman took

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place? It's down this side, this corridor. The far corridor is where

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Daisy peeped out and could see them dragging the body along the

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corridor. Has Highclere kaftdle aka Downton Abbey. It turned out it has

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a real butler and a real hiftdery all its own.

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-- history all its own. It does have a real butler who has a night

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off. Jim Carter who plays Carson, has he asked you for any tips?

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Unfortunately, no. Not at all? he had a chat wu, surely! We've had

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a talk, but he's never asked my advice on how he should play his

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part. What do you think of his performance then? Very good. Do you

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all sit round and watch Downton Abbey? Of course. Are you saying

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that because Julian is sitting here. I was going to say that was an

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unfair question. I thought he'd be working. Lord and lady Caernarfon

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insist we watch it. Let's go back to the Christmas special. I've got

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a bone to pick with you. I bet I know what that is. We were having a

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lovely time, the chocolates were out, there was sherry. Next thing

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Matthew leaves the hospital, everybody is in a great mood. He's

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dead. Life's full of surprises. was obviously because Dan Stevens

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was leaving. What was the moment when he said he had to leave.

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issue was really that he wanted to leave cleanly. He wanted to go into

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the next part of his career. If he'd been playing a servant that

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wouldn't have been an issue, they would have got another job and gone

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off. But because it's a member of the family and Mary has a baby, how

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believable is it that we would literally never set eyes on him

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again. You couldn't -- he couldn't go off on a polar expedition and

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never return. Once he wasn't prepared to come back and do, you

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know, a couple of episodes or something in a series, that would

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have been fine, then he could have gone off on some Government thing.

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Once he wasn't going to come back at all, I don't want to sound - I

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mean, he's a young man. He's got his way to make and his career.

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Running an acting career, you know, it's a gut thing. Nina has just

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left EastEnders for exactly the same reason. You weren't killed off,

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were you? No, I did ask. I wanted a huge explosion or I wanted to jump

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out of a plane. But, no, I got huge respect and they've left me and

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left the door open. I think I understand where he's coming from.

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You do, as an actor, you reach a point where you go, I've done

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service to this show and I fell like I want to be creative again

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and do something fresh and new. was interest in him in America. He

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was offered a show on Broadway and We are devastated but there is a

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new series of Downton, how are we going to cheer everybody up? I am

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not sure I do cheering up? beautiful Indian woman arrives,

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right? Yes, it is perfect! The truth of the matter is nothing is

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harder to dramatise than happiness. That is why in a great Hollywood

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movie, they kiss at the end and get married, they don't do it in the

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middle, because once people are happy, they are kind of done and

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dusted in terms of narrative. Now we have Paul widowed Mary, she has

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the baby, she has the estate, how can she find happiness? We are off

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to the races! And Julian, we know one of your other passions is the

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big houses. You class them as almost a character themselves, and

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this is the basis for your new series. It is. I think the whole

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sort of art form, one can really say, the English country house,

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which fascinates many people all over the world, it is because of

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its kind of complete this, it is like a world, it has every layer of

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society and every activity, and a real working estate, like Highclere,

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farming, racing, it is all going on, all of these different skills and

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lives being lived. And the opportunity came in for this

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programme to have a look not just that the families who built these

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great palaces, but the men and women who worked there. A you are

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presenting this, it is not a drama. Yes, it is me, blathering on.

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have a look catch you blathering on. He built this house to show a great

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dynasty and to entertain his queen from a Elizabeth the first, the

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greatest of the Judas. -- Tudors. But Elizabeth never stayed here.

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News of smallpox in the house kept her away. Life was fragile then.

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It kind of flip-flop between the stories of the upstairs and the

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downstairs, and they are dramas in themselves. There is one particular

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story that we deal with about an undercooked called Thomas, who was

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killed, I am quite sure accidentally, while he was in

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service by a guest of the Lord's. And when you follow the story, I am

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sure it was terrible and everyone was very sorry, it isn't that, it

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is the way it was covered up, the way he does it is so roofless, and

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yet he was also a fantastically brave man -- roofless. In pursuing

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the Queen of Scots, although she is a romantic heroine, but the fact is

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he was putting the interests of the country above his so that could

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have lost his head, so you have got this rootlessness, plus bravery,

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which I suppose are the key elements of a Tudor or statesmen.

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We found a book in Camden library which has got a brilliant story in

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it which could be turned into an historical series, but we can't get

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hold of the author. I don't know if you can help us. Where is it? There

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we are. Very limited film potential in this one! Just and light and us.

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I can do it. -- enlighten. The author's interests include writing,

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gardening and Phil Yates and she helped to run a children's campaign

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and lives in Surrey with her dogs. In the second book, she had opened

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a care home for dogs. Who is this? I am afraid, I have to come clean,

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that is me. Let's read a little bed. There is

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no limit to the amount of ridicule -- ridicule.

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"she could hardly get the words said. It has happened! I and his

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mistress! He seemed to revive physically. The king loves me".

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king loves Me! There you are. of that has rather drifted away

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from my writing style. It is a bit 50 Shades. And the four people who

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got it out of the library all agreed it is a good read. All right

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then you can see Julian's Great Houses on ITV next Tuesday at 9pm.

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We are keeping an eye on the beavers that this sort earlier on

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with the Winterwatch cameras. Shall we have another look? -- that we

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saw. There is only one left. This could be either Timber for...

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in a further. That burgers. There are nine of them. Mom and dad are

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there, they are about nine months old. This is just like Big Brother.

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I would stay in there, it is minus five. Poor little beavers. Nina?

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Aww! We are going to be talking to the Winterwatch people later on in

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the show. Two things you need to know about the next film, the

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hippocampus is located in the media temporal lobe of the brain. Clearly.

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And secondly, apparently taxi drivers have in large ones. Michael

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Mossley explains why we should help the modest cabbies.

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Look around you on a typical high street. How can you spot people

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with bigger brains than yours? Here in London, they are easier to find

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that you might imagine. Or you have to do is stick your hand out and

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hail one. London cabbies famously have fantastic memories. They have

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all passed the test, the Knowledge, and they need to know the location

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of all of London's Street, around 25,000. Even more impressively,

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they have to know the shortest distance between any two points.

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Researchers believe that cabbies are no more naturally gifted than

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you or me, so does their remarkable ability to memorise the streets of

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London make them geniuses? OK, King's Cross station to Hyde

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Park Corner. Euston Road, cut through Grafton Way, left on

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Fitzroy Street, through Charlotte Street.

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Into Piccadilly. And up to Hyde Park Corner. It seems we have

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feasibly court improved special memory. Tests show that parts are

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the taxi driver's brain, the hippocampus, is noticeably bigger

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than normal. I have come to London Hammersmith Hospital, where our can

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be Paul has agreed to have a brain scan. He is under they supervision

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of Dr Jennie wild. So what is the physical evidence

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that taxi drivers have different brains? University College London

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conducted a ground-breaking study where they looked at the size of

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the hippocampus in London taxi drivers, and they compare that to

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people who are not a taxi drivers, men who are not taxi-drivers, and

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they found that the taxi drivers had a significantly larger memory

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centre in their brains, which led them to conclude that being able to

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navigate very well and learning the Knowledge through London led to the

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paper camp has been wider. -- the hippocampus been wider. Sir Paul is

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in the machine, and they are scanning his brain. That is to

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measure if the hippocampus is larger than average.

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Let's see if all of that training has made any difference?

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They hit the canvas being larger can improve recall and navigation.

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Looking at this image of Paul's brain, the hippocampus is 28%

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larger than in an average man. To see what difference this makes

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beyond their taxi cabs, we are going to conduct an experiment,

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here at the Maze in Leeds Castle in Kent. On one team, taxi drivers.

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And on my team, a couple of really smart cookies. Two senior lecturers

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from Canterbury Christchurch University. We are confident.

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Around the maze, we have positioned portraits of five famous geniuses.

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Both teams will have 30 minutes to navigate the maze, search for the

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portraits and memorise their locations. Then one by one, they

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will be asked to go from Beethoven to Stephen Hawking, to Isaac Newton

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to Socrates and finally Einstein, in the right order. The quickest

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route should take just 13 turns, but that means getting everything

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right first time. The lecturer's seemed confident, but what about

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the cabbies? We had just gone round in a circle. It is the wrong way.

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With 30 minutes are up, it is now their chance to beat the clock. If

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like him, Paul's fellow taxi drivers have of the hippocampus

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that is larger, they should beat mighty D handstand.

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I have the result and it is very clear. The fastest by a long way

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was Adam. The slowest well long way was me.

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-- by a long way. All of the other competitors took

:25:11.:25:15.

roughly four minutes. Although roughly unscientific, it does show

:25:15.:25:18.

that paper qualifications are not enough to get around the maze and

:25:18.:25:23.

when it comes to finding your way from place to place, the brains of

:25:23.:25:32.

the cabbies come out on top. So, Michael, did you find your way

:25:32.:25:38.

to the studio tonight? I had been here before! A you were supposed to

:25:38.:25:43.

be here at the start! Earlier in the week, we saw the Radio Times

:25:43.:25:47.

had featured the top 50 greatest British inventions and in your new

:25:47.:25:52.

series, you get the chance to express your favourite. Yes, I love

:25:52.:25:57.

inventions and inventors. I think we are in in difficult times and we

:25:57.:26:01.

need to recapture that spirit of 100, 200 years ago when they went

:26:01.:26:07.

out and did stuff and sold it to the world. What was your favourite?

:26:07.:26:11.

My favourite was the steam car, the first one, which went off down the

:26:11.:26:17.

road before the Battle of Trafalgar. Isn't that fascinating? I love that

:26:17.:26:23.

sort of thing. Here he is, going full steam ahead.

:26:23.:26:28.

An inventor driven by economic beat to get around a costly patterned

:26:28.:26:31.

ended up achieving something other inventors have been trying to do

:26:31.:26:36.

for centuries. It was more powerful than the engine of James Watt and a

:26:36.:26:41.

fraction of the size. And so he could put it on wheels, the age of

:26:41.:26:46.

steam locomotion had begun. And to be fair, we wouldn't be

:26:46.:26:53.

where we are today. No, it was the first time high-pressure steam was

:26:53.:26:59.

captured. Why did we have a steam car now? We do. Why can't I have

:27:00.:27:06.

one? The price of water is rather more acceptable than petrol. Yes,

:27:06.:27:10.

that would Sorcha lead. There are steam cars that go at incredible

:27:10.:27:15.

speed, it is making a comeback. would be thrilled by that. You have

:27:15.:27:18.

learned something. Besides giving us entertained, there is civil

:27:18.:27:23.

mission behind this. Absolutely, we should celebrate inventors, they

:27:23.:27:28.

make things and sell things that we are fantastically good in Britain,

:27:28.:27:31.

coming up with scientific things, theories and things like that, but

:27:31.:27:35.

it is the stuff that people want to buy and that transforms the economy.

:27:35.:27:40.

We want to celebrate it. Americans are better at recognising

:27:40.:27:44.

what they have come up with, so all of our great adventure does go

:27:44.:27:49.

across the Atlantic. Delightful was not Thomas Edison, it was Joseph

:27:49.:27:56.

Swan and the first place was the Savoy Theatre -- the light ball.

:27:56.:28:01.

And the good old BBC, we have a whole season about this. Absolutely,

:28:01.:28:04.

it is a celebration of that what Britain has done in the past and

:28:04.:28:09.

what we are capable of now. You are going to love it, Julian. I love

:28:09.:28:12.

all of this stuff, but it does annoy me how so many things that

:28:13.:28:16.

were invented here but only developed... I am not attacking the

:28:16.:28:20.

Americans, good luck to them because they see the potential and

:28:20.:28:26.

I went to a medical science convention last year and they had

:28:26.:28:33.

come up with plastic glasses filled with water and if you take a little,

:28:33.:28:39.

it suggests it -- it just said so they can get their glasses out

:28:39.:28:47.

cheaply. All of today, we have been saying "That is a good idea".

:28:47.:28:50.

Inventiveness is alive and well and we have three young inventors with

:28:51.:28:56.

us, Emily, Jake and Dan. Let's go to them. I had a little go at

:28:56.:29:00.

Emily's invention and the arm. The proof is in the pudding and I found

:29:00.:29:05.

this absolutely brilliant. -- earlier on. They have a project on

:29:05.:29:09.

the front of the handlebars of your bike which projects this image

:29:09.:29:13.

around five metres ahead. Yes, it gives them a presence outside of

:29:13.:29:17.

your normal food print which alerts drivers ahead of you who can't see

:29:17.:29:22.

the bike. -- footprint. My normal bike light is on there, it is the

:29:22.:29:32.
:29:32.:29:35.

whole thing. It is a bike light There it is. Are you ready? There

:29:35.:29:41.

you go, look. Stop, there's a cyclist. That is the point. I felt

:29:41.:29:44.

a lot safer having it on there, knowing that those ahead of me

:29:44.:29:49.

would know I was coming before I arrived. Anything to make you more

:29:49.:29:55.

visible as a cyclist and increase at wairpbs of the bike on the road.

:29:55.:30:02.

-- the awareness of the bike on the road. I have raised funds for it

:30:02.:30:07.

and we're having conversations with the big retailers. It's all steam

:30:07.:30:11.

ahead. Jake, I love yours. This is a vacuum cleaner with a difference.

:30:11.:30:15.

Definitely. It still performs scablgtly the same as every other

:30:15.:30:22.

vacuum on the market, but the outer shell is made out of cardboard and

:30:22.:30:27.

cardboard has taken such a big rise in recent years. It's being used in

:30:27.:30:31.

furniture, lielgting and construction. Why not a -- lighting

:30:31.:30:36.

and construction. Why not make a light. You repair it yourself, you

:30:36.:30:43.

can doodle over it. The box is the bag essentially. Yes. Pimp your

:30:43.:30:47.

vacuum cleaner. Dan, your invention is brilliant. There's enormous

:30:47.:30:52.

problems with catching fish that aren't ready to be caught yet and

:30:52.:30:57.

wastage. Talk us through it. This is the escape ring part of a safety

:30:57.:31:01.

net larger system. The money I've received from the James Dyson

:31:01.:31:04.

foundation has allowed me to prototype this further. This fits

:31:04.:31:09.

into the net and allows smaller fish to escape to freedom. It's

:31:09.:31:15.

like an emergency exit. How many of those would you have on the net?

:31:16.:31:20.

Ten to 15. Good luck. All of you, good luck to you. Hugh Fearnley-

:31:20.:31:25.

Whittingstall is going to love you. He will. As will so many fish.

:31:26.:31:29.

Michael's series The Genius Of Invention starts next Thursday at

:31:29.:31:34.

9pm on BBC Two. One invention that's celebrating its 150th

:31:34.:31:37.

birthday is the London underground. Over the years it's had a big

:31:37.:31:41.

effect on some of you. I'm Tom. I've been a London Underground

:31:41.:31:45.

busker for six or seven years. I love it because I like to brighten

:31:45.:31:51.

up people's days. One day I was busk -- busking for two hours in

:31:51.:31:57.

Waterloo and got a -- an apple from a lady. I got a Canadian girl's

:31:57.:32:03.

number that day too. I think the underground is an important part of

:32:03.:32:05.

London's cultural identity. It's something I'm really proud to be

:32:05.:32:15.
:32:15.:32:17.

part of. I'm Michael. This is Rufus. He's a Pyrenean mountain dog. He's

:32:17.:32:22.

72 kilos in weight. He comes with me every day because we go to work

:32:22.:32:28.

together. He is the big celebrity of the underground. As far as dogs

:32:28.:32:36.

go, he's been photographed in sces of 50,000 times by members of the

:32:36.:32:41.

public. Whenever we travel with Rufus you have to allow half an

:32:41.:32:46.

hour, 45 minutes longer. We always miss at least two trains. People

:32:46.:32:52.

get on the train, going the -- go in the wrong way to sit with him

:32:52.:32:56.

and make a fuss of him. They get off at the next station and travel

:32:56.:33:03.

back. He's the best friend I have. People love him. They say the only

:33:03.:33:07.

good thing in rush hour on the underground is if you get a spot

:33:07.:33:16.

next to Rufus. I've been here for 13 years. I am the man that wakes

:33:16.:33:19.

people up at the end of the night and gets them off the train, out

:33:19.:33:24.

and home, hopefully. I've grown up with the underground most of my

:33:24.:33:29.

life. My aunt used to own a confectionary come tobacco stall at

:33:29.:33:32.

the old Trafalgar Square underground station. My granddad

:33:32.:33:37.

used to have storeys about during the bombings in London in the

:33:37.:33:40.

Second World War and going into the underground as an air raid shelter.

:33:41.:33:50.
:33:51.:33:51.

I've always been brought up with that. 18 years I work for London

:33:51.:34:01.
:34:01.:34:02.

Underground. I enjoy every minute of it. It was a cold November day

:34:02.:34:06.

1965, somebody told me that there was something left in the ladies

:34:07.:34:13.

toilet. When I went in there, I find this little new baby, so I

:34:14.:34:20.

took it up, tried to do what I could to see that I baby was warm

:34:20.:34:26.

and comfortable. Then I get my station master to come and take

:34:26.:34:32.

over. Then I make inquiry and they told me that the baby was adopted.

:34:32.:34:42.

After 30 years I was reunited with this young man that was one thing,

:34:42.:34:47.

one moment that will never leave me, as long as I live. I will always

:34:47.:34:57.
:34:57.:35:00.

remember that baby. One, two, three. You put the passenger in, in, out,

:35:01.:35:05.

you shake them all about. Open doors, close doors, mind the gap.

:35:05.:35:08.

That's what it's all about. When we retired we had to have something to

:35:09.:35:11.

do. We decided to travel on the Northern line and get off at every

:35:11.:35:19.

station and write about it. # All up the Northern line

:35:19.:35:29.
:35:29.:35:38.

# Morden, Edgware, high Barnett # You were singing along? I was.

:35:38.:35:46.

That's being taught at the nursery. "Yous off that EastEnders, aren't

:35:46.:35:50.

you? Yes I am. Where is Walford east? There is no Walford east.

:35:50.:35:56.

Yeah, it is. I seen it on the telly. I went, it's not real. I gave up

:35:56.:36:02.

and I thought I'll join the loon. That's what he will have seen. It's

:36:02.:36:06.

very considering. It's between Stratford east and Bow. And I left

:36:06.:36:11.

him. It looks convincing. It does. You've left EastEnders. How did

:36:11.:36:19.

your cast members take the news. You're a very tight-knight cast --

:36:19.:36:24.

tight-knit cast. Yes, quite sad if I'm honest. How does it work. Do

:36:24.:36:28.

they tell you and they tell them? came to the decision in January of

:36:28.:36:33.

last year. I thought about the decision for about three months.

:36:33.:36:38.

Then it was time for my contract to be renewed and I said thank you,

:36:38.:36:44.

but I think I'd like to make a move instead. A big decision. Very big

:36:44.:36:49.

decision. I didn't make it lightly. It took me a few months to think

:36:49.:36:55.

about it. I feel, a lot happened to me also last year. I lost some very

:36:55.:36:58.

dear friends around my age. I thought life's too short and I want

:36:58.:37:02.

to do something else. At least they didn't kill you in a sports car.

:37:02.:37:07.

Yes. They obviously were kinder than we were. Yes. That sounds

:37:07.:37:15.

really exciting. You are supposed to be getting married to Masood on

:37:15.:37:19.

Valentine's Day. Is there going to be a duff, duff moment that messes

:37:19.:37:24.

that up before then? You can't ask that? I'll ruin it for so many

:37:24.:37:30.

people. So many millions. We can say that you were a fiery character.

:37:30.:37:35.

Here she is dising out a bit of relationship advice. You don't want

:37:35.:37:39.

to appear too keen. But then you don't want to appear too cold

:37:39.:37:42.

either. The really important thing is that you must get what you want

:37:42.:37:47.

from the man before he gets what he wants. That is the golden rule. It

:37:47.:37:51.

lays the foundation for a lifetime of female dominance. You took your

:37:51.:38:01.
:38:01.:38:03.

Now that you're off the East Ender tread mill, what has that enabled

:38:03.:38:09.

you to do then? My husband and myself have our own production

:38:09.:38:12.

company. We made a movie called Four. And we're starting the next

:38:12.:38:18.

movie, which we will start in March or April with Stephen Lord. It's

:38:18.:38:25.

change Strangeways Here We Come. You were in the Keith Lemon thing.

:38:25.:38:29.

We can't show that. I'm not surprised you can't show anything

:38:29.:38:35.

from that movie. Tune back in four hours' time. Are you hoping for

:38:35.:38:41.

more comedy roles? Yeah. I think it got a bit heavy for me for a while.

:38:41.:38:45.

I am looking forward to doing that. I'm looking forward to writing

:38:45.:38:50.

again. There's a world of opportunities out there. We've

:38:50.:38:55.

picked up somehow during the show that you're not too keen on animals.

:38:55.:38:59.

I don't mind animals. Having said that, we're hoping to convert you

:38:59.:39:04.

now. Last time you were on the show, you named a baby gore illa. That's

:39:04.:39:10.

different. You settled on kukenga, different. You settled on kukenga,

:39:11.:39:17.

which means "love". Here he is now. The big one? No, the little one.

:39:17.:39:26.

my goodness me. He's lovely. He's almost as adventurous as you are.

:39:26.:39:30.

He's like the main attraction there. Was it the little one you named?

:39:30.:39:36.

The little one. The big one looks as if he'd name you. He'd own me.

:39:36.:39:40.

We put it out to the viewers and you chose it. That was the nicest

:39:40.:39:44.

name that came through, you're right. It was something about love.

:39:45.:39:52.

Yeah it means "to love". It is time to join some animal lovers in

:39:52.:39:59.

invernnessshire. It's the Winterwatch team. We heard earlier

:39:59.:40:04.

on, it's minus five up there. How is the wildlife coping, obviously,

:40:04.:40:11.

snugled up? Yeah and we're a bit snugged up. We have loads of layers

:40:11.:40:16.

on. We look a bit like Tellytubbies. Some of the wildlife hibernates,

:40:16.:40:20.

some migrate and some of it, like the beavers that we've been

:40:20.:40:24.

privileged to watch on our live cameras over the last few days, is

:40:24.:40:26.

perfectly adapted. You wouldn't think it, watching that one. But

:40:26.:40:31.

that is a kit, first Time Out on the ice. As you can see struggling

:40:31.:40:39.

a little bit. Skraiting on thin -- skating on thin ice. One of the

:40:39.:40:44.

contestants from Dancing On Ice, I think. We've had a question from a

:40:44.:40:46.

One Show viewer, asking why are birds singing through the night at

:40:46.:40:53.

the moment? Do you have the answer? Well, if they're in towns, the most

:40:53.:40:56.

likely animal that's going to be is the Robin. They sing all year round,

:40:56.:41:01.

particularly under street lights. In our cities at this time of year,

:41:01.:41:04.

when robins are beginning to argue about their territories with spring

:41:04.:41:09.

in mind, there's a lot of Robin singing going on, occasionally a

:41:09.:41:14.

few blackbirds as well. After a busy night on Christmas eve, Martin,

:41:14.:41:20.

you're showing some reindeer action tonight. I am. It's a great story,

:41:20.:41:27.

this, because a Laplander came over here to Scotland, looked around and

:41:27.:41:31.

thought "there's something missing." so he brought some of his

:41:31.:41:34.

herd over here. That's the origin of these reindeer. Tonight I'm

:41:35.:41:38.

lucky enough to get hands on with these lovely creatures. It would be

:41:39.:41:42.

good if a Brazilian came over here and got them to import football as

:41:42.:41:46.

well. LAUGHTER

:41:46.:41:53.

Chris, you're looking for One Show viewers' help. Well, down south

:41:53.:41:58.

we've had a lot of hard, heavy weather at the moment, lots of snow

:41:58.:42:03.

and ice. We'd like any interesting sightings of things that have come

:42:03.:42:08.

into people's gardens, birds and mammals, anything like that.

:42:08.:42:12.

Contact us via our website bbc.co.uk/Winterwatch. Pictures,

:42:12.:42:17.

comments, anything. Thank you guys. Winterwatch is on BBC Two tonight

:42:17.:42:22.

straight after us. When did he bring the reindeer in, when did

:42:22.:42:26.

that happen? I'm not sure. We can't go back to them now. That's

:42:26.:42:30.

disappointing. I can tell you an interesting fact. What reindeer do,

:42:30.:42:34.

they have this incredible coat on them, they stand into the wind. So

:42:34.:42:38.

if you see a reindeer, it closes its eyes and puts its ears back.

:42:38.:42:43.

The reason is so that the wind flattens down its coat, which keeps

:42:43.:42:48.

it warmer. If you're cold, stand into the wind. It wouldn't work for

:42:48.:42:54.

me. But after that, Julian, how can some people out there want to

:42:54.:42:57.

gratuitously harm some of our country's wildlife. Here's a story

:42:57.:43:00.

of how one brave walker turned prosecution witness in a wildlife

:43:00.:43:06.

crime. For hundreds of years, badger

:43:06.:43:10.

baiting, where people set dogs on badgers for entertainment, was one

:43:10.:43:16.

of Britain's most gruesome blood sports. But despite being outlawed

:43:16.:43:20.

badger baitding is still going -- baiting is still going on today.

:43:20.:43:24.

This is the story of an artist who stumbled across this medieval sport

:43:24.:43:29.

and then risked his life to bring the badger baiters to justice. For

:43:29.:43:33.

25 years wildlife painter Robert Fuller has been finding inspiration

:43:33.:43:40.

for his work by taking photos of his subjects. In January, 2011, he

:43:40.:43:45.

was doing this with a friend along the river Derwent in Yorkshire,

:43:45.:43:49.

when the normally serene sounds of running water and bird song were

:43:49.:43:55.

interrupted. I could hear a lot of dogs barking, very anxious dogs,

:43:55.:43:59.

out here on a peaceful Sunday afternoon. It was quite an unusual

:43:59.:44:03.

event. As we got closer, I could hear a badger squealing and

:44:03.:44:08.

chitering and wailing. It became obvious that something was

:44:08.:44:12.

definitely wrong there. The two men wanted to investigate

:44:12.:44:16.

where the commotion was coming from. From behind some branches Robert

:44:16.:44:26.
:44:26.:44:26.

I concede two dogs attacking a badger and a group of men were

:44:26.:44:31.

watching -- I could see. There were several other dogs and a call to my

:44:31.:44:34.

friends straight away to call the police and when I ran back through,

:44:34.:44:41.

I grabbed my camera. Robert started taking photographs to document what

:44:41.:44:46.

was happening, just 70 yards in front of him. At times, he could

:44:46.:44:50.

clearly see the legs of the badger being flung around by the dogs.

:44:50.:44:54.

Robert was potentially putting himself in harm's way, as the men

:44:54.:44:59.

were carrying shotguns. You must have been incredibly

:44:59.:45:06.

scared? Yes, it was quite a tense moment. Robert collected as much

:45:06.:45:09.

evidence as possible and he even managed to capture the moment of

:45:09.:45:15.

the badger's death, with the smoke from a shotgun hanging in the air.

:45:15.:45:18.

This was also the instant when he knew he had to get out of there. It

:45:18.:45:24.

appeared one man had spotted him. Robert beat a hasty retreat,

:45:24.:45:27.

holding his own close to his chest to avoid raising further suspicion.

:45:27.:45:33.

He gave the emergency operator their exact location. 15 minutes

:45:33.:45:37.

later, the police arrived. The men were still close by and all of them

:45:37.:45:42.

were arrested. This was the first step in getting a conviction but it

:45:42.:45:46.

would take the expertise of the RSPCA to bring the men should test

:45:46.:45:51.

-- to justice. A lot of the time we don't have the evidence there. In

:45:51.:45:58.

2011, we had 192 big -- incidents of badger-baiting reported, and

:45:58.:46:02.

seven of them have resulted in prosecutions going to court.

:46:02.:46:05.

this case would turn out to have no lack of incriminating evidence.

:46:05.:46:10.

Along with Robert Fuller's photographs, the police found part

:46:10.:46:15.

of a locator collar carried by the men. A tour of modern badger-

:46:15.:46:22.

baiting, they offer to around a terrier's neck, before it is set to

:46:22.:46:27.

find the badger. They then use the locator to dig at both of them up.

:46:27.:46:32.

Once out, the larger dogs are released on the badger. It would be

:46:32.:46:35.

easy to think that this case was closed, but to get a definite

:46:35.:46:42.

conviction, the team needed proof that badgers had been killed. They

:46:42.:46:49.

had to find the bodies. A police sniffer dog found one badger dead

:46:49.:46:55.

in a marshy area, ripped to bits and shot. And the second dead

:46:55.:46:58.

badger was found when they dug down. This was the conclusive proof of

:46:58.:47:05.

the officers needed. In January 2012, Paul Tindall, Alan Alexander,

:47:05.:47:08.

William Anderson and Richard Simpson were each jailed for 16

:47:08.:47:15.

weeks. Two other men, Christopher Holmes and Malcolm Warner, were

:47:15.:47:19.

given 12 weeks suspended sentences. And a teenager who stood on the

:47:19.:47:24.

sidelines was placed in a youth rehabilitation programme. And none

:47:24.:47:28.

of this would have been possible without Robert's bravery in taking

:47:28.:47:34.

the photos in the first prize. Every year, it is thought that

:47:34.:47:38.

thousands of badgers are tortured and killed by badger-baiting as in

:47:38.:47:41.

the UK, but as the public become more aware of this gruesome and

:47:41.:47:45.

horrific crime, hopefully it will become consigned to the history

:47:45.:47:50.

books. Hopefully. Miranda, Robert showed

:47:50.:47:56.

incredibly -- incredible bravery. Yes, he was a total hero, he has an

:47:56.:47:59.

award from the RSPCA to acknowledge his bravery. Here he is receiving

:48:00.:48:05.

it. We need more people like him out there. What can you do if you

:48:06.:48:11.

do see always best a wildlife crime? You need to do what he did,

:48:11.:48:14.

he Brown 999 because he was that the scene of the crime. If you are

:48:14.:48:17.

not there, and you want reported later on, go to your local police

:48:17.:48:22.

station or you can go to your RSPCA offers, because they have the power

:48:22.:48:27.

to prosecute. You cannot condone killing like that, it is barbaric,

:48:27.:48:31.

but there are people who believe that badgers spread tuberculosis,

:48:32.:48:37.

we have covered the item many times, and the proposed cull was postponed.

:48:37.:48:41.

Yes, there was a big U-turn. The Government announced the cull in

:48:41.:48:45.

September and there was a U-turn in October, to postpone it until at

:48:45.:48:49.

least the summer. That is just in England. In Scotland, there are not

:48:49.:48:54.

any cases of TB. The Welsh Assembly have decided to go down the

:48:54.:48:57.

vaccination route and in Northern Ireland, they are looking at the

:48:57.:49:03.

eradication programme providing vaccination with a possible cull --

:49:03.:49:08.

combining. One has to remember that for farmers, it is their livelihood.

:49:08.:49:12.

It isn't enough to just have one's eyes welling with tears. This stuff

:49:12.:49:16.

is horrible and as long as it tense, that is great but if there is a TV

:49:16.:49:21.

risk, we have to take it seriously, like grown-ups -- TV. We do but

:49:22.:49:26.

more research is to be done and scientists say that even if you do

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have a cull, it is not necessarily going to reduce the risk of

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tuberculosis. More work needs to be done, more money and research,

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before they announce something like that. It will be a trial cull when

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it goes ahead. Very controversial. There are so many sides to this,

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you can go on and on. Sorry... general, there has been an increase

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in wildlife crime. Wildlife crime Serran the increase. You look at

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them and you think it is something that happened he hundreds of years

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ago -- are on the increase. Badger- baiting, hare-coursing. I did a

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piece recently on cock fighting. And there is a blood sport caught

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Lam Ping, which is very popular in the winter months, long and dark

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nights, where people that with very bright lights and dogs and try and

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bring down foxes and deer and badgers. It is Justice Board, there

:50:20.:50:24.

is no financial gain and it is on the increase -- just a sport.

:50:24.:50:28.

Potentially, there is so bad news for the Wildlife Crime Unit. As if

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there wasn't enough, the national Wildlife Crime Unit are at risk of

:50:32.:50:37.

losing their funding in March this year. This is a very small number

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of incredibly dedicated people, people who are committed to

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eradicating rhino horn theft and trade, and trade of reptiles and

:50:45.:50:51.

persecution of birds of prey, and they may lose this funding in March

:50:51.:50:54.

of the Home Office do not renew it. There have been a lot of cuts in

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police funding and they are one of the people who may suffer. We will

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see what happens. Miranda, thank you very much. Julian, the reindeer

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we saw earlier on, that was for 1952. I thought it was 19th century.

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So it was nearly there. Anyway, we are polite bunch of The One Show,

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and that is not being a economical with the truth, if you understand

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what I'm saying. Gyles Brandreth is no exception and he has had a look

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at the British obsession with euphemisms.

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Euphemism. Euphemism. I am looking for an alternative and I can't find

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one. But perhaps I don't need one, because a euphemism is the

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alternative, and when the 18th century lexicographer Dr Johnson

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was compiling his first comprehensive English dictionary,

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he actually left the word out. He was a man who liked straight

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talking. If you go back to the Greek, the origin of the turbines

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to speak fair, which is what you can listen does. There is a

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wonderful definition by Quentin Crisp, he said that euphemisms are

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run pleasantries wearing diplomatic Cologne. I think that one defeat

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describes how we sidestep something unpalatable. It is there to make

:52:13.:52:18.

something sweeter, gentler. exactly, to add a bitter foe.

:52:18.:52:23.

Rees rota book on euphemisms, helped by his better half -- wrote

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a book. My wife has a good definition, which is when you don't

:52:28.:52:32.

call a spade a spade. You call it an agricultural lifting instrument,

:52:32.:52:41.

to avoid using the D-word, spade. Of course, the subject that we

:52:41.:52:45.

think we need change according to the times we live in.

:52:45.:52:50.

Victorians for fat childbirth, bankruptcy, prostitution -- avoided.

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They used to cover up the legs of chairs. It may not be true, but

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linguistically they referred to chair legs as "Limbs". Similarly

:52:59.:53:04.

with chicken, we were not allowed to talk about "Chicken breast", it

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had to be "White meat closed with - - white meat". Winston Churchill

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was asked and he said he would like rest and was told in no uncertain

:53:15.:53:18.

terms they were not allowed to use the word and he asked what to say

:53:18.:53:23.

and they said "White meat". And the next day, legend has it, he sent

:53:23.:53:29.

the woman who said that to him a course large saying "but this on

:53:29.:53:34.

your white meat". Some of them have been constant for centuries, like

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getting drunk, procreating and going to the lavatory, a euphemism

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in itself. The most charming euphemism for going to the lavatory

:53:43.:53:48.

was from a woman in Norfolk tennis club, who broke off playing and

:53:48.:53:58.
:53:58.:54:01.

said I'm just going to "Turned a My uncle said"I'm just going to

:54:01.:54:06.

make a telephone call to Henry". Death, of course, remains something

:54:06.:54:10.

we are all squeamish about and a lot of the accepted words we use

:54:10.:54:15.

about it today actually started out as euphemisms themselves. We talk

:54:15.:54:18.

about undertakers, which began as simply anybody who would undertake

:54:19.:54:24.

a task. We talk about funeral parlours, memorial centres. Even

:54:24.:54:27.

the lead coffin began as a euphemism because it means a little

:54:27.:54:32.

basket. There is a whole soft focus surrounding all of these subjects

:54:32.:54:36.

and they have been many wonderful sketches that have played on that,

:54:36.:54:42.

including the dead parrot sketch. It was used by Margaret Thatcher --

:54:42.:54:47.

Margaret Thatcher. She quoted Monty Python to refer to Liberal-Democrat

:54:47.:54:57.

and the legendary dead Python sketch. This is an ex parrot. It is

:54:57.:55:05.

not merely stunned, it has ceased to be, Expired, and gone to meet

:55:05.:55:09.

his maker. Everybody got the joke that she did ask if Mr Patten was

:55:10.:55:16.

one of us? Politics is an area rich in euphemism, it is all lies, damn

:55:16.:55:26.
:55:26.:55:29.

lies and euphemism. So, to you for advice or not to you for mice?

:55:29.:55:37.

euphemise. I suppose people uses to cannot be direct, to avoid it,

:55:37.:55:41.

which they should. You can use it to deliver irony, kindness, humour,

:55:41.:55:45.

almost anything and as long as we are social animals, we will always

:55:45.:55:55.
:55:55.:55:55.

needed. If you would excuse me, I have got to see a man Got to turn

:55:55.:56:00.

the vicar's bike around. I have got a wring out my socks.

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Wring out my socks? Julian, you are writing a 4th series of Downton

:56:08.:56:12.

Abbey, you have to get that phrase about turning the bike around.

:56:12.:56:22.
:56:22.:56:25.

is rather a big task, I think we could do it by just having the

:56:25.:56:32.

vicar in. Gyles Brandreth is the only man I have and I had a bath

:56:32.:56:36.

with. We were both three years old. We tried to get hold of that

:56:36.:56:40.

photograph, but basically he told us it is in one of his mother's

:56:40.:56:44.

family albums. Now, we are going to put your knowledge of stately home

:56:44.:56:54.

salacious stories to the test. It is time for this.

:56:54.:56:59.

We will read out stately home shenanigans stories and you have to

:56:59.:57:05.

guess which stately home they happened in. Very easy. Colin has

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got a plate of fresh scones, with some jam and cream on them, which

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are up for grabs, but you have to get three correct. Are you ready?

:57:14.:57:19.

We shall start. In which house did the infamous

:57:19.:57:23.

Emma Hamilton Lady -- later become mistress to Lord Nelson, and she

:57:23.:57:33.
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danced on the dining table that Let's find out from the map. That

:57:34.:57:44.
:57:44.:57:44.

is correct. Very good. You are at a slight disadvantage. A slightly!

:57:44.:57:48.

The Lady of this house was considered slightly eccentric. She

:57:48.:57:52.

continued to hunt until she was in continued to hunt until she was in

:57:52.:57:54.

her 80s and had to be strapped to your cause, despite being almost

:57:54.:58:00.

blind and been told where to jump. -- her horse. She nearly burned

:58:00.:58:04.

down the west wing of her house when her feathers caught fire.

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Hatfield House. That is correct. Yes!

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Here we go. In which ousted the gardeners insert a tap into the

:58:15.:58:18.

pipe carrying beer from the brothers' house to the seller so

:58:18.:58:28.
:58:28.:58:31.

they could have a cheeky find? -- brewer's? Chatsworth House. That is

:58:31.:58:37.

correct. Yes! correct. Yes!

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Very quickly, on Friday's show, we will be talking about confessions,

:58:40.:58:44.

so if you had anything you want to get off your chest, e-mail us at

:58:44.:58:48.

The One Show. That is all we have time for, thank

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