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Hello. Welcome to the One Show with Alex Jones and Matt Baker. Ow guest

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tonight is a man who has watched some extraordinary homes take shape.

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From an old water tower in Buckinghamshire, to a derelict

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castle in Yorkshire, but tonight, in his honour, we have constructed

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a vision on a scale that's never been realised in such a way before.

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Inside is Grand Designs' Kevin McCloud.

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APPLAUSE What a sport you are. That is not a

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house. It's a kennel. Lovely to meet you. It's wrong, the plans. We

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ran out of time and the budget went heywire. It's clearly finished.

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are used to that. Let's pass over that. It hasn't got planning

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consent. Presumably this is something you have come up against,

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people having not measured properly and budget being not correct.

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usual. It's all to do with that age-old drive that we have as

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humans, to get up in the morning and make things and ignore all the

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best advice from everyone around us, because we are think we are capable

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- if we weren't all like that, we would all be living in caves still.

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True. It's the flipside. I'm a big, big fan of the show. We'll find out

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later about your thoughts on the new proposed planning laws as well.

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Also, we give you the chance to show Kevin McCloud, your designs.

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Whatever you have built from a potting shed to a book shelve. Send

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us a picture of you standing proudly in front of it and we'll

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see what Kevin makes of it later. E-mail us. Thanks for that! It will

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be great. People disagree about whether

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alternive medicine works or not. When it comes to a father and son

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relationship and the father is a doctor and the son is the patient

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and the illness is a brain tumour, then it becomes difficult. My

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daughter Karen was 43 when she was diagnosed with breast cancer. She

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went down the conventional medal route and then wanted to add other

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therapies, complimentary therapies and alternative, anything that

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might just cleanse her body of this hideous disease. The use of

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unproven alternative therapies against medical siepbs has always

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sparked a passionate debate. 24- year-old Sam has a brain tumour. He

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has turned to alternative therapies. His father is a cancer specialist,

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where he is working on a cure at Leicester Royal Infirmary.

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immediate reaction was we'll get this fixed. Sam, you were emphatic

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and you said, "You're my father, not my doctor." There needs to be a

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line drawn. Having exhausted conventional treatments, Sam's

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opted for the alternative route. decided that I'm going to try my

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stuff out. Some of the lifestyle changes are radical. Sam now

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follows what he describes as an anti-cancer diet, based on a

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mixture of flaxseed oil and cottage cheese and contacted spiritual

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healers. All three of them gave me heat inside the head, actual

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physical heat. It was real and it did happen as I'm concerned it is

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valid. Many people would analyse it and it is just clutching at

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anything just in case. I don't clutch. I look at it very carefully.

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I'm been conned before. I know how it feels. I'm very, very careful,

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to the point of paranoia. Sam uses drum ing to help him relax, but

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believes more potent remedies could help. One of them is the chemical

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sodium dichloroacetate or DCA. It has had limited clinical trials,

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but is currently viewed as a potential cancer treatment. His

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father believes it caused Sam nerve damage when they took too much and

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then there is the illegal stuff. Cannabis oil has been proven in

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certain laboratory situations to destroy cancer cells and brain

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tumours. Your dad is shaking his head. That is in the lab. It's not

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really a drug. It's a mixture of a whole variety of compounds and

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that's the problem. People watching would be very uneasy with the fact

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that it is illegal. That is the other point. Sure. We have to make

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that point. Absolutely. We have to have the right to cure ourselves.

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For a trained doctor that approach can be hard to accept. Some of the

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drugs that he's used are very potent chemicals and he's managed

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to get those from the internet. That is a huge problem to me.

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there any evidence at all in Sam's experience and his results, that

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would encourage you to say to a patient, for example, you might

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want to try this? Sadly, no. I really can't. The situation with

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Sam, as you said, is extreme. Young man, terminal diagnosis, have to

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try everything. For many patients now with the new therapies the

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prognosis is not so bad. Many of them can be cured or even have

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retained long-lasting remissions with conventional treatment. Sam is

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convinced something he's doing is working. His tumour has shrunk and

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he says it can't all be down to conventional treatment. He believes

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the evidence is compelling and deserves properly scientific

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investigation. Are these cures really so impossible to take

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seriously? I don't think so. I think we should take them seriously

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and I think there should be clinical trials, absolutely. The

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sooner the better, because people may be dying needlessly and that's

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a hoshing thought. What gesture do -- horrible thought. What gesture

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do you think the medical profession will make to perhaps a new

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treatment? I hope they find it and continue doing what they are doing.

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I wan cancer to be gone preferrable -- want cancer to be gone,

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preferrably within my lifetime. I am planning on going on and it's

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possible. Much like my daughter, Karen, Sam has refused to let his

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illness take control of his life. The path he's chosen is not without

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risk. It has given him fresh hope. Cancer Research UK says there is no

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evidence that any alternative diets can prevent, treat or control the

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disease. Although, as Sam says, seeing a spiritual healer has

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helped him cope, the charity says there is no scientific evidence to

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support alternative healing as a cure. Kevin you have tried the

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therapies? For asthma, not for anything more serious than that.

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Chronic asthma, that is pretty bad? I've had it for 30 years. It's been

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a lifetime companion really. It got to the point a few years ago when

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it got seriously bad and I found a consultant, this is after 15 years

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of not drinking alcohol and not touching wheat and having

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supplements and other stuff and finally he put me on some

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conventional drugs. I'm back on the booze now! All I'm saying is I'm

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very interested by this idea of alternative, because I see it as

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complimentary and I think if conventional medicine fails, and

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clearly you are going to want to try and find anything you can to

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support you, whether that is counselling or whatever. The

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important thing is one shouldn't necessarily throw away conventional

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medicine and say no. The two can live together. We think you are

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going to love our next film. Archeologists in Northern Ireland

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are excited about this discovery. What they have found has been

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hidden for centuries, but it's now slowly revealing itself in the

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shadows of this castle. Joe has been to seen history in the making.

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Since the 1408's, this castle has stood on North Antrim's coastline.

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From here, generations of chieftans were able to dominate. The castle

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is steeped in legend. Everything from tales of love to tales of war,

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but now archeologists and historians have discovered an

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untold story. It's hidden for hundreds of years, just outside the

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castle walls. Photographs reveal scars in the field surrounding the

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cast. Land surveys backed up what was seen and the pastures were

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definitely hiding something. The only way for us to find out what

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was hidden under the fields was to dig. And their discoveries took

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even the experts by surprise. Buried just a few feet below the

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surface of that grassland is an entire town. Colin is the

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archeologist whose hunch led to this discovery. This is an amazing

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site. Give me a sense of where we are standing nought within this

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town that you are uncovering? is an amazing site. It's probably

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the best site I've ever worked on. The town itself was built in 1608

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and freestanding by 1611. 400 years ago you would have come down this

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surface which stretches across to the wall. There would have been

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another line of buildings on the far side of the cobbled surface.

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This was a significant settlement. This isn't a village? No, no, this

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was very much a town. It would have had anything up to 60 to 90 houses

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across the whole of the town and a population of something between 900

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and 1,000 people. Wow. You said we are standing on cobbles that go

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down to the castle. This seems to be a bit of a feature here? What we

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actually have is a series of drains running down the surface, but what

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the drain is telling us is that there's a change in society and

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people who lived in the town are conscious of hygiene and conscious

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of their appearance. What we are really seeing here is a movement

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into the modernity On site there's a museum displaying previous year's

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finds. Is there one favourite item? I have to say there is. It's this

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object, a small bronze item. This is actually a late 16th early 17th

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century tuning peg for a harp. That find was found literally in the

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gutter, just outside the blacksmith's. We know that

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travelling musicians were visiting the houses at tight within the

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settlement. It is tempting to say that this harpist left the house

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very late at night and made his way back up the surface and bumped

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against the corner of the blacksmith's and lost this quite

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valuable item. Not so many documents survived that describe

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the town or what happened to it, so how or why was this forgotten

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about? Professor Brian Williams is the man responsible for the

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castle's heritage. Brian, was was it a town was built outside the

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castle walls? What is the idea? 1608 was a time of massive

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political upheavel and change for the whole island of Ireland. The

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Earl of Antrim was trying to position himself politically and

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read the ruins how to survive in this time and he decided to set up

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a series of towns to grow the economy. He went to Scotland and

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brought in proven business people, entrepreneurs, merchants, who had a

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track ro record. -- a track record. They could set up business with him

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over here. Where did it all go wrong? The town thrived for 30-odd

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years, but then got caught up in the maelstrom of Irish history and

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in 1641 there was an Irish rebellion and rebels attacked the

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town and what we have found is they simply folded the houses in on

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themselves. The walls were pushed in and the whole town of 1,000

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people were flattened and it became a grassy field in no time. It's

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amazing to think that this quiet stretch of coastline was once a

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thriving commercial centre. The lost town was more than just a busy

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market town. It was a unique community. Scottish settlers and

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Irish natives lived side by side here. What is more, as this dig

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shows, they built this forward- looking and sophisticated society

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together. Grand Designs back then as well. Your very own home is 500

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years old? It's not as beautiful as that. I live in a Tudor eco-home,

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built out of the field in which it sits. Has it got loads of glass in

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it? Yes. Is it open-plan? No. It's got small, tiny windows and it's

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dark and gloomy, but I'm fond of it. The people like their homes to be

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flooded with light and I'm - I The new series has started. Let's

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How do you balance, on the one hand, this desire to create the Arts and

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Crafts spirit of the nineteenth- century, the 21st century, with

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your instinct as an accountant to save money? Because this sat --

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house is never about money. You will be surprised to hear that.

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It's all about the style and design, beat money is... The money is

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almost completely irrelevant! will not disclose the amount. Do

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you think it is money well spent? When you walk away, will you be

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pleased? I am sure that he believes it is. I'm sure he thinks he has

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spent his money wisely and well. It isn't foolish to build a very

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expensive house, in an expensive part of the world. It's the south

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of London, an expensive area. Real estate costs a lot. I'm sure he did

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the right thing. I'm being very correct, as you can guess. What I

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want to say about this is that... I shouldn't be talking too much, it

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is on in 105 minutes. But he does run out of money at the end. It is

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a cautionary tale. Many of the project will broadcasting are,

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because the money is not there. awkward Steve Field, when you are

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talking about the Budget? It is their life, everything. -- How

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awkward do you feel? You know, I'm not really interested in money. I'm

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really interested in the design, the architecture, the experience of

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the building, what it contributes, what it says about where it is and

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how the talks about its neighbours. Where did that inquest come from?

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My dad was an engineer and scientist. We were encouraged to

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take things apart, like engines. rocket scientist? Well, he built

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bits of rockets. Systems for missiles. We have to ask, there are

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lots of things in the news about the proposed changes to planning

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laws. What is your view on it? nutshell, it is a guide. It is 52

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off 58 pages. The last document, in 1957, was 1000 pages long. Whatever

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this government did, it would get in trouble. They have produced

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something that says, we want to see sustainable development. We are

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going to say yes to this sustainable development. Then it

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defines what that is. The design bench marks are really quite

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stringent. But because it is a discussion document and a guide,

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everybody is up in arms. They are saying, this is outrageous, we are

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going to see green land carpeted over with rubbish housing

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developments. Well, that may or may not happen. It is at a very early

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stage. I'm interested to see how it works out in the detail. That will

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be down to local authorities, not to central government. We do live

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on an island, there is a certain amount of space and there are more

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people now. We are the most populous country in Europe, it is

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going to be a big issue. Now, how do you deal with the green menace

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of bracken without destroying the countryside? Kate Bevan goes to

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Herefordshire to find out how horse power is proving an efficient way

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to tackle the problem. This is a very special, hard

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working horse. She is part of a pioneering conservation project to

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protect our countryside from a plant that is taking over. It is

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bracken. You would not expect such a familiar firm to be a problem.

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Until recently, it wasn't. In the past, it was cut for livestock

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bedding. But changes in farming practices means that it now covers

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nearly 3 million acres of Britain. And it's spreading. The problem

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with bracken is that it smothers the forest floor with a toxic

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blanket of dead leaves and blocks out the sunlight, excluding all

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other plants. In turn, that deprives insects of food. So, the

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countryside has declared war on bracken. That is where Ella and her

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owner come in. They specialise in controlling bracken in

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environmentally sensitive places, like here, amid the ancient oaks in

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Herefordshire. The blanket of bracken threatens the future of

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these Oaks, as the acorns cannot germinate in its shadow. But the

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park is protected by laws, due to its Lydney -- unique flora and

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fauna. Chemical sprays and heavy vehicles cannot be used. So they

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are pioneering an alternative technique. She's pretty nimble on

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her feet? She is, this is the advantage of horses. Wigan Wigan

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more difficult places. A quad bike or a tractor could not. It's very

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special, isn't it? These are some of the oldest oak trees in Britain.

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They are allegedly 1000 years old. The bracken is on the increase.

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designed this yourself? It's based on a technique from the 1920s. I've

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produced this designed specifically for horses. Wouldn't it be easier

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just to chop it down? It would, but then the route, the biggest part of

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the plant, would throw up new growth. It wouldn't control it.

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bashing it, what actually happens to it? Well, bashing, these are not

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sharp. They crush it. You can see the wounds in the bracken. That

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makes the plant try to carry on living. But the sap leads out. It

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can't put food back into the Ritz. So it is weakened over winter.

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bit of a battle of wits? Yes, I hope I'm cleverer than Bracken!

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Bracken bashing has become popular right across the country. Not only

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is it good for the environment, as there are no nasty chemicals, it's

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also cost-effective because there is no need for diesel. So, it has

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become popular, so he has had to take on apprentices to take on

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extra work. This area you can see behind me has been brats. When we

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first came here, the bracken was 8 foot tall. It's now very standard

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and there are grassy areas. Have you seen differences with wildlife?

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The benefits are immediate. The bracken is crushed and it doesn't

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come up again. Things like violets, the grass is, they can grow through.

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We've seen an increase in all sorts of insects, butterflies. In

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woodlands we will get natural regeneration of the trees.

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Otherwise they would be killed by the bracken. Then are enormous

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By bringing working horses like a lead back into the countryside, he

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has shown that bracken can be beaten, wherever it grows. It seems

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that even in 2011 there is still a place for the great British horse

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We love bringing old friends together on this show. Unbelievably,

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Kevin knows that horse personally. I've worked with her. I spent a day

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with her. It was for a Grand Designs programme, coming up in

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this series. We went with the owner of this extraordinary house that he

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is building in the forest. We went with her, and her other job, when

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she is not smashing bracken, is pulling out felled timber from

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National Trust's Boris's -- forests. Because that doesn't damage the

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floor. It looks like I'm sitting between two keen loggers!

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You've been sending in your wonderful Grand Designs. A modern-

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retro party shack. Have you got a line for that? What would you say

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at the end of the programme? It's a 50s American diner, with added

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relish. Then we've got this one. This has been sent in by Peter and

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Amanda from North Dorset. This is a picture of a barn that they built.

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They also have a house, to clarify! There are no windows. Yeah, a

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charming, con textually responsive, timber clad, green route the Koh

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Phi Phi barn. This is a grand Now, all week we have been bringing

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you wonderful sights from The One Show hot-air balloon. Today you why

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in for a real treat, as with Goodman reveals how 18th century

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discovery not only changed how we drink tea, but also transformed the

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# Would you like to ride in my beautiful balloon? # What could be

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more British than a cup of tea? These days we take fine china for

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granted. But there was a time when a porcelain tea cup was reserved

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only for the richest of the rich. The Far East had a monopoly on the

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precious resource and charged merchants a small fortune. When it

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finally arrived back in Europe at the beginning of the 17th century,

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the Italians named it after the beautiful shell-like translucence.

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The British aristocracy simply named Trina. It was far superior to

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anything the West was producing at the time, both in strength and

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beauty. Understandably, the Chinese were reluctant to reveal the secret

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recipe and relinquish their monopoly. That was until 1746, when

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a British chemist named William Cook were the made an observation

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that would change the china industry forever. He went to visit

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a Cornish tin mine in Cornwall. He noticed that the miners were

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repairing the cracks and holes in their furnaces with its local

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material. This pale white clay was remarkably resistant to extreme

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heat. On closer inspection, this humble material turned out to be

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very high in porcelain's secret ingredient. It shattered China's

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monopoly and made a Cornish quarry the envy of the world. The china

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clay industry in Britain exploded. With the techniques of extraction

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moving on since William Cook would be's day, past -- poll Slim was no

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longer reserved for the rich. Britain was producing fine china

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for the masses. What began as a small mining in west Cornwall has

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become the biggest china clay pit in the world. It has changed parts

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of the Cornish landscape beyond recognition. The St Austell china

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clay pits covered 25 square miles and are known locally as the

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Cornish Alps. The only way to appreciate the magnitude of the

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workings is from the air, in The One Show balloon. Ivor Burdett used

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to work for the mining operation. Today, he's an expert on the

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history of the clay pits. We are looking at an area that has been

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intensively mined over 250 years. The lakes are in fact disused

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workings, which fill up with water. The largest of the Six minds that

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we operate is over 200 hectares in size. They are giant holes in the

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ground. The all of this is to make cups and saucers? Not at all. That

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is our oldest market, 50% of what we produce goes into the

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manufacturing of paper. Paper?! have 20% going into things like

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paints, adhesives, pharmaceuticals. We probably use china clay in some

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form or another every day. Nevertheless, the impact of William

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Cook were the's findings has been immense. The Eden Project has been

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praised for its reclamation of 37 acres of china clay pit. But these

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works cover 16,000 acres. Mining is likely to go on for another 100

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years. Over the last 20 years it has been a fairly intensive

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programme of reshaping some of the old pits, creating up to 750 acres

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of heathland, planting over 1 million trees. A lot is going on

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today. Well over 113 million tonnes of china clay have been extracted

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from Siddle stroll over the last 200 years. It will take decades to

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turn this lunar landscape back into something approaching its original

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state. I think William Cookwere the would be stunned to see this now.

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He'd never have thought that his experiments would not only break

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China's monopoly on porcelain production, but also transform a

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Far Eastern treasure into Britain's most versatile resource. There are

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few who can claim to have made quite such an impact on the

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countryside. Now, more grand designs. They have

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been flooding in. Kevin? I've got a dome of made out of plastic milk

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containers. I like it. It's lovely. It's a little bit of a love shack.

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I think you'd need to tie it down. This one is a home-built structure

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from Kevin. Did the cat build it? That would have been interesting.

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This one is lovely. A bridge built with two other students at Bath Spa

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University. It's from Annabel Williams. They knitted it from

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recycled wool. That is all we got time for. We're going to be

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returning to the subject of Dock training tomorrow. If you do have a

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