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Hello and welcome to The One Show with Reverend Tim Alban Jones

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Matt Baker. Tonight's guest is a rock legend who is in his 30th year

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of making hits like this. # Take my hand

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# Your love is like bad medicine # Bad medicine is what I need

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# I just want to live while I'm alive

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# It's my life... # It's Jon Bon Jovi

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APPLAUSE Welcome to The One Show. Thank you.

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Suep tore have you. Dressed for the weather. Dressed for your studio

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weather. It's nippy in here. Yes, budgets are tight on the Beeb.

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have arrived in the coldest week we have had this year. Snow, is it

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still a big deal? It snows a lot where you are from? We grow

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accustomed to it than you guys are here. People get worried. I

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understand it. Roads freeze up and you are not used to driving in it

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and it causes alarm. You still have fun, are you a skier? I do a fair

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amount. I have a lot of stuff on to hide how foolish I look. I like the

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snow. I get out. OK. As a man, who must have tribute acts all over the

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world, we presume, we thought you might like this. This photographer

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called Francois Brunelle, he has spent the last 12 years trying to

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find unrelated doppelgangers, like these. They have never met before.

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They have come together have these photographs. Extraordinary. The two

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guys in the middle... Have you met a group where you thought, you know,

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what you do look like us and sound like us? If I could get that guy to

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do my interview that is would be awesome? Are you saying you don't

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want to be here? I'm using The One Show to find that future

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doppelgangers. Tonight is the night. If you or someone you know look

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like Jon or Matt or me or any of our reporters send them in. It took

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that photographer 12 years, we will do it in an hour. It's estimated

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one in six schools have been closed or affected by bad weather over the

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past few days. More have shut their doors today. The situation so bad

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that even, Jon, in your hometown your newspaper, the New Jersey

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Herald is reporting on it. They are alarmed. All kids are wearing their

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PJs backwards and inside out. Kids do this in America, inside out and

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backwards and they run around counter clock wise around the table

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to bring the snow to close school. The more you pay for kids to go to

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school, the less they go. If two flakes fall the kids say, "no

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school" my kids don't want to go to school until May. I bet. Catherine

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James from the National Association of Headteachers is here to defend

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Heads from complaints they have closed their doors too easily, but

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it's not an easy call to make as we found out. Head teachers said they

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had to consider the safety of their pupils. It's not over yet. With the

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coldest temperatures expected tomorrow, minus 16 in the Midlands,

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freezing conditions later in the week could prove a further obstacle

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to schools opening. It's a big responsibility for each Head

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teacher to carry. I'm glad I don't have to make that decision. Here at

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Holycross Primary in Oldham one teacher is always up for the

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challenge. E she will do anything to make sure her school stays open,

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whatever the weather. Sorry kids! Her top priority is to get the

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school open, make it safe for the pupils and reassuring parents.

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have to check whether staff can get in. We have to check that we can

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clear the site for the children to walk through. Yesterday, you did

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really well to remain open. Over half the schools in the area were

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closed. Do you think you can do it? By 7.30 am to 8.00 am we will make

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that decision. Will you remain open, you have 100% track record? We are

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staying open. We can chat to the site manager and see what he says.

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Certainly will. How are things? have been around the school. Most

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is gritted now. The footpaths are clear. I'm doing a path for the

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staff. Your hard work make sure the kids make it to school? Dead right.

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Are you proud of that? Yes. Very proud. We are ready? Don't think so.

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I have a job for you. Oh, charming. Getting paths gritted and heating

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on is only the first step to starting this school day. 41

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teaching staff are travelling from snowed-in villages. A few ab

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stances could stop her from opening. Ab stances. Have you checked your

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side roads. You think you will be able to get in? We can open now.

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The first teacher arrives and finds it difficult. Other teachers leave

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their cars at the bottom of the hill. I walked up the hill to get

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here. You get to teach the kids and training for the day? Parents have

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childcare issues, we make sure we are in to support the community as

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much as we can. 5,000 schools were reported to be closed at the start

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of the week, sparking criticism from the Government saying schools

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should prepare more for bad weather. How would your day change if the

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school were to shut? I would have to ring into work and hope my boss

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is understanding and say, "I can't come in today." Not everyone can

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afford childminders. If schools aren't open, please lose money.

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Here in Oldham it's business as usual. Good morning, everybody.

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Good morning. You made it in to school. Yeah? In the snow. Make

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sure you wrap up. We have loads and loads of snow outside in the play

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grounds, haven't we? This Head teachers decision to keep her

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school open has paid off. As the snow hits other parts of the

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country, it's more than likely to affect us for the next few days. As

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you saw Catherine is here. Why can't more Head teachers go to the

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links that that Head did in that film? It's a difficult decision. No

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Head takes the decision lightly to close the school. We have teachers

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who are parents. Heads are parents themselves. They know how difficult

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it is when their kids are sent home. On the other hand, they have to

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make sure that the staff are safe, that the pupils are safe, and that

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they have enough staff in to run the schools. During that film, when

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you sat down, Jon said, "how much inches of snow does it take to

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close a school over here?" There is no clear answer? There isn't. It is

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taken for each individual institutions. We were having a chat

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saying that over here, it's very few days that actually we have such

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severe weather. Particularly in the States you are going to have

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preparation. You have the salt spreaders. People are prepared to

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put on their snow tyres and get on with it. That doesn't... We could

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spend the money here to make all those preparations, but we wouldn't

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have it to spend on something else. 800 schools are closed today. Is

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there an argument, do you think, that Head teachers are too Kay shus.

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Michael Gove seems to think so, would you agree? I would not

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necessarily say I agree. I know some people think so. You have to

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remember a lot of people are saying - isn't it better to air on the

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side of caution. If your child was injured, I mean, can you imagine

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the repercussion that is would come back on a school like that you are

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damned if you do, damned if you don't. What is the situation like

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in the States with the suing culture? America gets into a lot

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of... That is another story. In the North East where I live it's common

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place there is more snow. There is a lot more preparation. We have

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salt spreaders and ploughs, there is a lot of preparation prior for

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the sidewalks and the streets. It is easier to do it. In a school in

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Russia in Jon it has to be minus 52 before the school closes? I'm sure

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there are plenty places in Eastern European countries or Alaska that

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laughs at New York yaes -- New York's snowfall. Airing on the side

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of caution. Big shout out to caretakers. The cold nights have

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probably left you scraping your windscreens each morning. Hopefully

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you have done a Bert job of it than this maniac. If you are getting

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frustrated at how long diseasing the car takes here's Marty Jopson

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and science to rescue. The Highway Code say that is your windscreen

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should be completely free of ice before you set out, not just a

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little patch like. This what is the easest way to de-ice a car? We

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brought in an expert to explain why ice is so hard to shift. Glass is a

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particular type of surface that forms a bond to the ice. This is a

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weak bond, there are so many of them, the iesz has stuck to the --

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ice has stuck to the glass and it is difficult to push off. Using a

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scraper on it is own. Are you ready, GO! 40 seconds dead. Well done.

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YES! We asked our second driver to spray a supermarket de-icer on to

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her windscreen. 3-2-1. GO! We are allowing everyone to use their

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wipers or scrape tore clear the ice, but not their car heaters. Stop now,

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it's over two minutes. How is this supposed to be working. The de-icer

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contains something like an alcohol which can disrupt the bonding in

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the ice to turn it back into water. It goes from the top down. That is

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why it takes time to work. alcohol is the crucial ingredient,

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vodka should work too, shouldn't it? This time, we will try the

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penguin scraper as well. Clearly, the most expensive and stupid way

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to do this. Are you ready? Yes. 2-1. GO! It does seem to work.

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I think you're done. That's 1 minute 7 seconds. Perfect.

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alcohol contained in de-icers works, it needs the scrape tore break the

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icy bond with the windscreen. Is there anyway you can avoid scraping

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altogether? We asked driver No 4 to spray a product called Night Before

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De-icer on to his windscreen last night. The theory is it should stop

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the ice sticking. 3-2-1. GO! Oh, not quite. A bit of frost over

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there. That is amazing. 10 seconds. Just straight off. How does this

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stuff work then? The ice that's forming on top of the windscreen is

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forming on top of the de-icer which will prevent it from forming the

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ice network and bond together glass. Our final option is for those who

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don't want to use chemicals but don't fancy the hard work of

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scraping either. Jo you use boiling water, that is what you will do

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today. Are you ready? Yes. OK, 3-2- 16 seconds, pretty good. But this

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is not recommended by experts. can undergo thermal shock. There is

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a rapid expansion on a hot areas, the cold areas are still contracted

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and you get cracks in your glass. So, the results of the challenge

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are in. The worst method turned out to be this one, using D I said that

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you spray on after the windscreen is already frozen. -- D I said. The

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best method was this. This is the one that you spray on the night

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This we haven't taken into account the cost, which is why I rely on

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this, a scrape and elbow grease. The experiment was just a bit of

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fun. But my lovely clear windscreen means that we are good to go, as

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long as we can get out of frosty I use a CD case. Not Bon Jovi's?!

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have a lot of them that you can use. Mine is terribly boring, you just

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put a blanket over the windscreen. But that requires organisation.

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Which I don't have, unfortunately. We were just mentioning, that you

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were due to come on that the show back in November, but you had to

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leave very quickly because of Hurricane Sandy? Yes, I was here

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when it happened. I did not heed the storm warnings. Nahal Oz meant

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to do The One Show and some things here, when it hit in New York. For

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good reason, I had to get home. There is some footage of my home

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town. That was the day that I arrived, to see the devastation in

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the town that I was born in. your house hit? Property damage, no

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house damage but a lot of property damage. You took part in this big

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benefit concert at Madison Square Gardens. I think we can see some

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footage. How was the recovery, generally? Well, in our time of

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need, people of different walks of life who, by New York standards run

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past each other and never acknowledge each other, they come

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together. If it was 9/11, or now Hurricane Sandy, we collectively

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come together and take care of each other. It must have been a strange

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atmosphere, in comparison to the other ones you had been doing

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around the world? In truth, it helped you remember that when

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tragedy hits somebody else, it is real and not just something you

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witness on television. When it hits you in dockyard, you are even more

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aware, next time it hits tornado alley, Downend Florida or wherever

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it might be. You are much more aware because you have been through

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it yourself. North of Manhattan, people were hailing cabs and going

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to theatre, downtown, the lights were out for a week. Speaking of

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families, you grow up with two parents that were in the Marines.

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There are no musical genes in your family, until you came along? Where

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did it come from? I don't know, you will have to ask my parents. Maybe

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you have to ask my mother! Where did your love of guitar come from?

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Was there a lot of music in the house? Not particularly. I

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gravitated towards it, like every teenager does, with a tennis for

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racket and a broomstick. Visions of being in a rock'n'roll band. But I

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pursued them, I was serious enough about it to make little steps

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towards where I am today. Was it tricky in New Jersey? The drinking

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age was 18. You could be 16 and sneak into a bath. That was very

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helpful. -- sneak into the bark. There was no real responsibility,

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no overhead like you would have as a grown man. When you were able to

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write, there were places for you to play original music. That was, of

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course, what differentiated Club bans from record labels. Can you

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remember the moment when you thought, this is it, I've made it?

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You always think it was from the block dance, to the record deal.

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But you think you have never got there, even today. You think, we

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are almost there, we are almost big. You say we, you have been together

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30 years. The old ball and chain! It's amazing you have been together

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so long. And the complications, as you get older? It's fantastic. We

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have been through everything from births, deaths, weddings, babies,

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we have seen it all together. # I don't want to be another wave

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in the ocean. # I want to be the one you run to,

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when you need a shoulder. # I ain't a shoulder, but I'm here

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Its from the album, What About Now. That is just one of the videos that

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you have made? There actually four? Four completely different videos.

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It's almost like a mini movie. A man by the name of Fisher Stevens,

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he had just written a film that I Making videos is boring, we wanted

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to do something different. He saw the album cover and he said, these

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are the videos, he pointed to the photographs that are from different

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songs. I said, you are going to put yourself into a corner and make

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four videos. We made four a distinctly different videos that

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tied back to the album cover. Because of this Augmented Reality,

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now the album cover, you click on these images and it'll take you to

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a different video to accompany Because We Can. You can piece them

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together. Its out in March? that's right, the single is out now,

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the album is out in March, the tour... We will come onto that!

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American guests like to tell us that everything back home is bigger

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and better. When we looked for a wildlife film to fit with a rock

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and roll legend like Jon, we pushed the small birds to one side and

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A golden eagle, soaring high. These days, a rare sight in most of the

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UK. But here in the Scottish Highlands, there are still some

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breeding pairs left. Two chicks are being raised in this valley are

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almost ready for their first flight from the nest. Before they apply,

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we have a chance to enlist them for a special mission, which will allow

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the RSPB to track their movements every step of the wave. First, we

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have to get to them. The nest is high on a hillside. Young eagles

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fly hundreds of miles to establish their territory. It's important to

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know more about their flying patterns to help conserve the

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population. The chicks are to be fitted with a GPS tracker so that

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we can understand more about their movements. Stewart and Brian from

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the RSPB had been monitoring them since they hatched eight weeks ago.

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They have to move now to fit the GPS devices. It's just days before

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the fully-grown chicks fly from the nest for the first time. It's a

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steep approach up the mountainside to do this vital work. The good

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news is that it will cause little disturbance to the parents, as they

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have already flown off to watch Just go easy. They are massive!

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Stewart is going in for one of the chicks. They are quite feisty,

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Stage one completed! The chicks will be returned in no time and her

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parents will be back to feed them as if nothing has happened. How

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about that? What do you think, healthy? Very healthy, absolutely.

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Covering their eyes will make the work of a routine health check as

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stress-free as possible. I can't believe I've got a golden eagle

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between my hands! The satellite tags have to be fitted when they

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are fully grown, so their growth will not be impaired. Each one only

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weighs the same as a mouthful of food, so it causes no discomfort.

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Being solar-powered, it is good for up to five years. We can track

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where they are going, but it is more than that? Unfortunately,

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there are people in Scotland and Britain who detest them, they don't

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like them at all. Although it is completely illegal and has been for

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decades, they will quite happily kill these birds. Having a

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satellite tag to tell you where they are, it allows you to find it

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if it has gone down, and, hopefully, act as a bit of a deterrent as well.

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Personally, I am astonished that some misguided gamekeepers should

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or poison them to protect their grouse stocks. Two chicks, how good

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is that? Fantastic, there may be only 20 or 30 sets of twins each

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year in Scotland, so having twins like this is really good. This is

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top territory. Look at that! What a wingspan. Isn't that amazing? You

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can see all of the feathers. This golden eagle chick in my arms has

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to be the most precious thing I have ever carried. The best thing

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of all, when it pledges, we will be able to track it every step of the

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Wonderful, wonderful. Stewart has made the trip down from Inverness

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to tell us how those beautiful golden eagle chicks are doing. Six

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months on, how are they doing? Fantastically well. They are

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sisters, both female. The older one has been a bit of a stay at home.

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Hasn't really moved more than five or 10 miles. The younger one is

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showing her the way. It left on St Andrews Day on 30th November,

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headed away from the territory and went into the Cairngorms. It stayed

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there for a while. Then it shot back West, it wanted to see her

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what the West of Scotland look like. It's so on Ben Nevis at the moment.

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What have you learned about golden eagles by using the tracking

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system? All being well, they will roam around Scotland for four or

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five years until they are old enough to set up territory and find

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a mate. We can find out what sort of areas they are favouring. That

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is important with things like wind farms, to keep them away from the

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best areas for them. The other thing that we are finding is how

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and where they are dying. Unfortunately, as we said, there is

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still a bit of a problem with persecution of golden eagles. We

:26:39.:26:47.

have had then shot, poisoned, trapped. Unfortunately, a lot of it

:26:47.:26:53.

is Indies intensively managed This technology is helping you with

:26:53.:26:57.

other species across the world? technology is getting better and

:26:57.:27:01.

better all the time. As it improves, you can put it on smaller birds and

:27:01.:27:05.

small animals. You find out stuff that would be impossible to find

:27:05.:27:09.

out any other way. Previously, you would have to catch a bird, put a

:27:09.:27:15.

ring on it and then catch it again. All it tells you is it was at that

:27:15.:27:18.

point when you caught it and another one when it was found. This

:27:18.:27:23.

is more or less constant. I don't even need to leave my office.

:27:23.:27:29.

Handy! It is sent directly to my computer. On a horrible, snowy day

:27:29.:27:32.

like this, you can sit at home in the office and find out what they

:27:32.:27:37.

are doing. Are you aware that so the new Jersey is a hot spot for

:27:37.:27:42.

birdwatchers? Actually, I wasn't. It's one of the top places in the

:27:42.:27:48.

world. When you say you're going to look for a bird in New Jersey...

:27:48.:27:54.

It's a different thing, yes. We are going to bring snow up again. This

:27:54.:27:59.

weekend, everybody can help, get out and feed the birds? You have a

:27:59.:28:04.

special thing on the website? small birds do not do well when it

:28:04.:28:07.

is snow and ice like its. Feeding them is really important. Putting

:28:07.:28:12.

food out, giving them water. This weekend, we have the Big Garden

:28:13.:28:19.

Birdwatch, which the RSPB has been running for the last 13 years. It

:28:19.:28:23.

allows you to count birds, sending your information. It is collected

:28:23.:28:27.

throughout the UK and gives you an idea of how they are doing.

:28:28.:28:33.

will love this, you can do this on your bird table at home. Put a

:28:33.:28:37.

ping-pong ball in the water. Doesn't that help? It moves around

:28:37.:28:46.

and stops ice forming. Have you got that, Jon? Thank you very much.

:28:46.:28:49.

In the hostile driving conditions we have had to put up with recently,

:28:49.:28:56.

thank heavens for the shining beacons of hot food and warm covers

:28:56.:29:00.

that out roadside cafes. If you have to pullover in Lincoln, make

:29:00.:29:09.

sure you have the camera at the At first glance, you would be

:29:09.:29:13.

forgiven for thinking that Lincoln is the very more of a classic

:29:13.:29:18.

cathedral city. For much of the 20th century, it was home to one

:29:18.:29:21.

architect, whose buildings were so cutting-edge that they are only now

:29:21.:29:25.

beginning to be appreciated. Perhaps because their beauty lies

:29:25.:29:35.
:29:35.:29:37.

With steel rationed in post-war Britain, concrete was the go-to

:29:37.:29:45.

material for roofs. Sam Scorer took this material and gave it wings.

:29:45.:29:55.

Scorer's roofs were based on a gee metric shape. This church, designed

:29:55.:30:00.

by Scorer was completed a decade before the Sydney Opera House. It's

:30:00.:30:08.

built on the same principles. In its simplest terms it can be

:30:08.:30:18.
:30:18.:30:20.

explained with this. It has one concave curve along this axis and a

:30:20.:30:25.

curve along this one. It wasn't to everyone's taste. People were

:30:25.:30:29.

astonished. When it was being built people were full of rumours about

:30:29.:30:34.

what it was going to be like. They wrote letters to the paper saying

:30:34.:30:38.

it's awful, not proper church architecture. They got this amazing

:30:38.:30:42.

construction which nobody had expected. Outside it might have

:30:42.:30:49.

appeared a little aircraft hang ar- like it's inside that the roof's

:30:49.:30:58.

design makes sense. Not only is the shape dramatic, it's very strong,

:30:58.:31:08.
:31:08.:31:08.

creating an uninterrupted space with no columns or or support

:31:08.:31:18.
:31:18.:31:22.

pillars. His work mirrors other architects. This service station on

:31:22.:31:27.

the A1 is north of northing ham. Originally an elegant floating roof

:31:27.:31:33.

structure, it late her a brick building added underneath to form

:31:33.:31:39.

what became known as Britain's only architect tuerl significant Little

:31:39.:31:44.

Chef. Despite being derelict today, it's arresting lines are more than

:31:44.:31:53.

enough to turn heads. AliLampard drove past it one day. The first

:31:53.:31:57.

time I saw this building I was blown away by how unusual it is. It

:31:57.:32:04.

moved from a pyramid to this beautiful exotic shape. I just

:32:04.:32:11.

resolved to be back there, that evening, with a tripod and take

:32:11.:32:15.

some photographs. His love grew to object cession. He has returned

:32:15.:32:19.

several times over the years to photograph the building, even as it

:32:19.:32:25.

fell into disrepair. Today, we have had permission to access one view

:32:25.:32:30.

he has never seen before. And, I think you might say his face says

:32:30.:32:37.

it all. Once you are up on the roof of this remarkable building you can

:32:37.:32:44.

appreciate the gee news of it is design. It's phenomenonal

:32:44.:32:53.

hyperbolic, even the name is space age. Sam Scorer died in 2003,

:32:53.:32:57.

nearly nine years before English Heritage Grade II listed this

:32:57.:33:02.

structure recognising it as being nationally important. I think the

:33:02.:33:08.

shot to get is the one from up here, looking north, looking up to

:33:08.:33:11.

Darlington, Newcastle. I can almost see Edinburgh from here. What

:33:11.:33:15.

better place to display it than this, one of the last ever

:33:15.:33:22.

buildings he designed, a gallery that still bears his name. For the

:33:22.:33:26.

people of Lincoln at least, Scorer's modern vision still

:33:26.:33:32.

resonates. It shows that we had a very forward thinking architect at

:33:32.:33:37.

that time. That I think is a legacy he has left behind, one we should

:33:37.:33:44.

look to maintain. You have to hope it's not too late for this jewel in

:33:44.:33:52.

Sam Scorer's crown. You know where to stop now when you are on tour.

:33:52.:33:56.

Little Chef, got it. You spend a lot of time on the road. You are

:33:56.:34:04.

coming up to your 15th World Tour. In the studio we have all your tour

:34:04.:34:09.

T-shirts in chronological order. Any particular favourite? All of

:34:09.:34:15.

them. Did you deany of those? always have your hand in. It I'm

:34:15.:34:21.

involved throughout the process. it a big deal the Tour T-shirt?

:34:21.:34:26.

is when you prized one as a kid. I think so, you want it to be

:34:26.:34:33.

timeless and classic. I hope they like the ones they've got. We have

:34:33.:34:39.

Eddie here. Where is Eddie? There you are. Eddie has an incredible.

:34:39.:34:46.

Tell Jon what your connection is with him? 1984 I saw you with Kiss

:34:46.:34:54.

when I was 11. I went with my friends and my parents. Your first

:34:54.:34:59.

gig here. One of your first ever UK gigs. The headliners were Kiss.

:34:59.:35:04.

2,500 people were there. From the moment that show finished everybody

:35:04.:35:12.

was talking about the band, Bon Jovi. 29 years on. Do you remember

:35:12.:35:18.

that? I do. It reminded me of a high school gym. It was rather

:35:18.:35:27.

small venue. That band, Kiss, who took us here in 1984, on our fir

:35:27.:35:32.

ever tour really -- first ever tour really of the UK we expected to see

:35:32.:35:38.

Madison Square Garden we walked into a high school gym. One of the

:35:38.:35:45.

band members was painting something on his amplifyer with his spray

:35:45.:35:55.

paint. He paut little on his amp and his face. -- put a little on

:35:55.:36:01.

his amp and his face. Jack you spent a special moment with Jon

:36:01.:36:05.

here. What happened in Coventry? went to Coventry to see him. We got

:36:05.:36:09.

tickets to go to the to the side of the stage. He came up to me and

:36:09.:36:14.

invited me on. What did you say to him if he asked to you come up?

:36:14.:36:19.

didn't know exactly what he meant. I tell you what he meant. We have a

:36:19.:36:26.

brilliant, brilliant moment. Show. This will take you back.

:36:26.:36:36.
:36:36.:36:45.

# It's all right # It's all right... #

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APPLAUSE Jack, that was brilliant. It was.

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Have you done that again since? No other band has come around. You

:36:54.:36:59.

are not doing a tour of your own yet? We will have to do the reunion

:36:59.:37:03.

tour. I don't know if I could lift you any more. You have grown quite

:37:03.:37:09.

a bit. Hi, Jack. The UK leg of your tour starts in June here, doesn't

:37:09.:37:13.

it in Manchester? Yes. All these people are wearing their T-shirts.

:37:13.:37:19.

Some have bought tickets already. Have you doing Living On A Prayer

:37:19.:37:23.

and all the classics. Anyone who comes to see us the classic are

:37:23.:37:27.

obvious. The set lists change all the time. OK. Who knows where we

:37:28.:37:32.

will be on any given night. There is a lot of material from a lot of

:37:32.:37:36.

albums to play. You made a point of keeping the prices of the tickets

:37:36.:37:40.

down so many people can come? too. I think it's important just

:37:40.:37:43.

because we're touring it doesn't mean that you have to give an arm

:37:43.:37:49.

and a leg to come and see it. We're very aware that people are having a

:37:49.:37:55.

hard time and the economy being what it is. How many of you lot

:37:55.:38:01.

have tickets? Yes. Nearly all of them. The Because We Can starts in

:38:01.:38:06.

Manchester. You added a new date as well, haven't snu Hyde Park. Yeah.

:38:06.:38:11.

So, we will be back in Hyde Park. I love that venue. It was a dream

:38:11.:38:17.

venue when we first did it in 2002. We were given licence, growing up

:38:17.:38:20.

having seen the pictures of the Rolling Stones paying there after

:38:20.:38:24.

Brian Jones passing and Jagielka coming and the doves flying I

:38:24.:38:30.

wanted to play there. The first time we did it. Now, it's a bit

:38:30.:38:36.

nostalgic. It's kind of like another check mark. Did it, did it.

:38:36.:38:40.

Are we good audiences for you. You have the whole world? We have

:38:40.:38:47.

played a lot of venues. We closed the Old Wembley stadium. Yes, you

:38:47.:38:51.

did. It was all planned. We were closing the old one and opening the

:38:51.:38:55.

new one. Ask the construction crew what happened there? I went and

:38:55.:39:00.

actually took the pictures of the venue when the arch I'm standing

:39:00.:39:05.

outside. I should have gone inside to realise it wasn't done! We have

:39:05.:39:09.

done it all. We have gone from nightclubs to the biggest stadiums

:39:09.:39:13.

there are. We have done it all. Look forward to the tour. There has

:39:13.:39:18.

been a chill on the high street this winter with well-known names

:39:18.:39:28.

from Jessops, HMV and Blockbuster going under. Each week though many

:39:28.:39:31.

more local shops disappear with no fanfare, not because they've run

:39:32.:39:36.

out of customers, but because landlords have pushed up their

:39:36.:39:40.

rents often by thousands of pounds a year. With household names going

:39:40.:39:46.

bust, it's no wonder businesses are worried about their future. As we

:39:46.:39:51.

reign in our -- rein in our spending more businesses are going

:39:51.:39:55.

out of businesses whrfplt you rent office space, restaurant or retail

:39:55.:40:00.

property you might be finding it hard to meet the rent bill in the

:40:00.:40:03.

current economic climate. What are businesses paying on this high

:40:03.:40:11.

street? In 2002 this shop was paying �20,000 a year. In 2012 he

:40:11.:40:20.

paid �33,000. This shop was paying �34,500. Last year it was �52,000.

:40:20.:40:25.

Rent increases are managable when the economy is growing. When a

:40:25.:40:29.

business's takings drop, paying a high rent become as problem. This

:40:29.:40:34.

shoe shob shop has been here since 2004 when they were paying �30,000

:40:34.:40:41.

a year. Now it's nearly �50,000. to probable 18 months ago I would

:40:41.:40:48.

say our average turnover annually was between �400 to �450,000. We

:40:48.:40:53.

are down 30%. Can you afford to stay in business? That is

:40:54.:40:57.

questionable. I'm funding my business out of my personal funds.

:40:57.:41:02.

That is how we keep going. We are a business in danger r. Some shop

:41:02.:41:06.

keep remembers finding their rents are more than their business can

:41:06.:41:13.

cope with. It seems bleak. I need to have a cup of coffee to recover.

:41:13.:41:17.

We have been here for four years now. Our rent has gone up from

:41:18.:41:22.

�18,000 to �23,000. A huge increase? It is. It is going up.

:41:23.:41:28.

65% of our outgoings is rent alone. Landlord is getting a pay rise all

:41:28.:41:32.

the time. When is the last time you got a pay rise? We took a pay cut.

:41:32.:41:40.

Is everyone in the same boat? you are in the lease landlords are

:41:40.:41:44.

reluctant to negotiate. Two businesses have closed their doors

:41:44.:41:51.

for this reason. New tenants have negotiated a lower starting rate.

:41:51.:41:56.

new coffee shop can get a Bert deal than you can? Absolutely. This shop

:41:56.:42:01.

is 700 square foot. On London's Bond Street it would cost you

:42:01.:42:07.

�350,000 a year. A similar prime spot in Birmingham would be closer

:42:07.:42:12.

to �140,000. In Manchester, �120,000. Many businesses are

:42:12.:42:16.

struggling with high rents and dropping income. Some have no

:42:16.:42:22.

escape. Locked into long, expensive and inflexible leases. Rents are

:42:22.:42:26.

unresponsive to what is going on in the high street. Small businesss

:42:26.:42:30.

have to incur costs in terms of their raw materials and pay staff,

:42:30.:42:34.

pay rates and the rents. Rents are going to keep going up. Whilst

:42:34.:42:37.

small businesss are struggling it will make it difficult for them to

:42:37.:42:41.

compete and many might even consider moving elsewhere, maybe

:42:41.:42:45.

where it's cheaper or going out of business altogether. Judy run as

:42:45.:42:49.

shop at the opposite end of the high street. Her rent more than

:42:49.:42:55.

doubled over 10 years. Last year, her landlord wanted another 20%. So

:42:55.:43:00.

she fought back. I stood at my door and I looked out. I looked at the

:43:00.:43:05.

awash of "to let" boards within 10 shops of my shop. I took

:43:05.:43:09.

photographs of what was in my area. Some of these shops had been there

:43:09.:43:15.

for 30 years, they had closed. I said to them - I can't do it. Do

:43:15.:43:21.

you want another board outside my shop? I appealled. I said 20% was

:43:21.:43:28.

unrealistic. They asked me what I was freepd play. I said p.--

:43:28.:43:32.

prepared to pay. I said 5%. Landlords have to make a living,

:43:32.:43:36.

they do. What Judy has shown is that some are willing to negotiate.

:43:36.:43:40.

In tough financial times, for some businesses it could make the

:43:40.:43:49.

difference between staying afloat If so many shops are empty, why

:43:49.:43:54.

can't landlords just reduce rent? Some landlords say they can't,

:43:54.:43:56.

because the rent agreement they have with the shop owner says that

:43:56.:44:00.

when rents are reviewed they will only go up. A lot of rental

:44:00.:44:04.

agreements have that written in to them. The other reason is that some

:44:04.:44:07.

of them just will not. They have gone into property because they

:44:07.:44:11.

want the rent, but they also want the property to keep its value.

:44:11.:44:15.

They worry that if they cut the rent, property values will fall and

:44:15.:44:21.

they end up paying twice. As Matt mentioned, we have already seen big

:44:21.:44:27.

high-street chains like Jessops, Blockbusters and HMB, but there is

:44:27.:44:31.

some news on HMV today? This is really interesting. It is

:44:31.:44:37.

effectively being controlled by a company which is a turnaround

:44:37.:44:40.

specialist. The interesting bit is that we hear this afternoon that it

:44:40.:44:44.

is also interested in buying the Jessops brand name. Not the shops,

:44:44.:44:50.

but the name. If it ends up with both, you might see Jessops cameras

:44:50.:44:55.

on sale in HMV. It makes it more distinctive. The one to watch is

:44:55.:45:01.

the record companies and the movie studios. If they do not have HMV

:45:01.:45:07.

selling their CDs and DVDs, they have to do more business with Tesco,

:45:07.:45:11.

Amazon and Apple. They are tough to negotiate with. It's in their

:45:11.:45:16.

interests that it survives. You had a strong relationship with HMV?

:45:16.:45:21.

They did very well by us for a lot of years. Declan is right, it's

:45:21.:45:24.

going to be very difficult to negotiate when there is nobody to

:45:25.:45:30.

negotiate with left. It's very hard to get the music into the hands of

:45:30.:45:35.

people to hear it again. A lot of people would have bought their

:45:35.:45:43.

singles and their Bon Jovi albums there. Watching these mom and pop

:45:43.:45:49.

shops go down, that is more difficult. That is what gives the

:45:49.:45:55.

culture personalities. What is the high street like? Or is it out of

:45:55.:45:59.

town in the States? It's the same thing, they went away and they are

:45:59.:46:05.

trying to come back about as many big boxes. Are you nostalgic over a

:46:05.:46:09.

certain shop that you remember going in? It would be a lot of

:46:09.:46:13.

those things. A shoe store or a record store that you supported,

:46:13.:46:20.

eventually went back again, and it's gone. It is also easier, it

:46:20.:46:24.

is... It's a difficult place, it's easier to press a button. It's

:46:24.:46:28.

easier to press a button and get your shoes delivered. But you want

:46:28.:46:33.

to support those stores. So many brands that we have to keep our eye

:46:33.:46:41.

on, because we are not out of deep woods yet. Do you remember Athena?

:46:41.:46:49.

I used to love going through their Men are vulnerable people have had

:46:49.:46:54.

their GP checking on them at home. In the Cotswolds, Dr Ian Davies's

:46:54.:47:01.

patients can have peace of mind that he will get there, because

:47:01.:47:04.

when he's not there he is a polar explorer.

:47:04.:47:09.

Today is a really snowy day in the Cotswolds. I look after lots of

:47:09.:47:13.

remote patients, boast the farmers. Most of them live down dirt tracks

:47:13.:47:17.

in the middle of nowhere and they are particularly susceptible to bad

:47:17.:47:22.

weather. The husband of a lovely farming lady, unfortunately wasn't

:47:22.:47:27.

very well. I saw Mrs Partridge yesterday. She was OK, I gave her

:47:27.:47:32.

some treatment. The idea was to keep her out of hospital. I called

:47:32.:47:35.

first thing this morning and she had had a terrible night. She was

:47:35.:47:39.

not well enough to stay at home. Unusually for Mrs Partridge, she

:47:39.:47:43.

actually wanted to go to hospital. For me, that meant that she really

:47:43.:47:47.

was quite unwell. The ambulance service has done a great job in

:47:47.:47:51.

this terrible weather and managed to get us up to the door, which is

:47:51.:47:55.

incredible. The only other option to get a patient out of here is the

:47:55.:47:59.

air ambulance. With this low-lying fog, that is really tricky to do.

:47:59.:48:05.

It can get hairy, particularly with weather like this. Nice to see you.

:48:05.:48:11.

How are you? A little bit watery eyed. It has been tricky, with your

:48:11.:48:20.

wife? On the back of the tractor. That is me. Throwing hay out to the

:48:20.:48:27.

animals? What is the deepest you have seen? 16 locked. So we are

:48:27.:48:33.

getting a bit worried about half a fat, and you've seen 16? I saw it

:48:33.:48:38.

was your wife's birthday, she would be 86? She is still prepared to get

:48:38.:48:42.

onto the tractor, she has still got it. When your wife comes out of

:48:42.:48:46.

hospital, you are worried, or if they are saying things in hospital

:48:46.:48:51.

you do not understand, call me and I can explain it to you or ring the

:48:51.:48:58.

hospital. Dearing visits like this and looking after somebody like Mr

:48:58.:49:04.

Partridge reinforces why I do medicine. Its huge job satisfaction.

:49:04.:49:07.

Side-effect free, it doesn't cost anything to knock on somebody's

:49:07.:49:12.

door. Hopefully it reassures him that people around. I am just a

:49:12.:49:19.

small cog in the wheel. Most of the work is done by district nurses,

:49:19.:49:26.

midwives, district health workers. Sometimes the local policeman will

:49:26.:49:29.

knock on their door. That is how it happens in the countryside, up and

:49:29.:49:34.

down the country. It's fantastic. There was some post in the door, I

:49:34.:49:39.

saw, save you going to the doorstep. Because it is a dangerous place at

:49:39.:49:47.

this time of year. Very slippery. You just had a delivery of shopping,

:49:47.:49:51.

do you want me to put it away? all right, I'll -- the helper to do

:49:51.:49:55.

it when they come. Are you sure there is nothing I can do? It all

:49:55.:49:59.

right, Doctor. You have somebody coming in a bit? Nice to see you

:50:00.:50:04.

again. He's lived on his own like that for a long time. A lovely guy.

:50:04.:50:08.

There are people like that up and down the UK, getting on with life

:50:08.:50:12.

in the snow. All of the services that support them, they struggle

:50:12.:50:16.

along and I think that is what is great about Great Britain.

:50:16.:50:21.

Ian has become our snow doctor. We have discovered him during the snow.

:50:21.:50:26.

Best discovery ever! Have a look at this. This is a

:50:26.:50:31.

musical instrument. Have you seen one of these? I actually have, yes.

:50:31.:50:37.

Have you tried playing one? With one finger, yes. We might be

:50:37.:50:43.

needing that. Thomas Bloch is an absolute expert. Give us a run-down,

:50:43.:50:46.

for everybody looking at this and wondering what it is. How it is

:50:46.:50:52.

made up and how it makes the sound. You used wet fingers and you rub

:50:52.:50:59.

the cups. Then it rains, normally. By luck! -- rings. How long does it

:50:59.:51:07.

take to get a sound? If you are a professional, like I am, it takes

:51:07.:51:17.

no time. Otherwise, maybe one or two years. Only five of you play

:51:17.:51:21.

this? Professionally, in the world, yes. And it was invented by an

:51:21.:51:27.

American? Benjamin Franklin. Do you see the link? You have prepared a

:51:27.:51:37.
:51:37.:52:04.

I will try. I don't know if he will For those that don't know, what was

:52:04.:52:14.
:52:14.:52:19.

We were wondering if you could teach Jon to play? Oh, that's a

:52:19.:52:26.

little pressure... I told you, one finger. OK, go for one finger.

:52:26.:52:31.

While Jon has a goal on the glass harmonica, here is the tale of the

:52:31.:52:36.

man who invented it. If 1998, builders were carrying out

:52:36.:52:41.

work on the basement of an historic London town house. Days into the

:52:41.:52:46.

job, work was halted when one of them they made eight macabre

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discovery. They were digging down here. They unearthed a bone. It

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appeared to be a human thigh bone. The police were called immediately

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and unearthed a shallow grave containing more human remains. It

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proved to be Sam 1900 bones in all, from at least 28 corpses. The sheer

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quantity led to the possibility that they had stumbled on the lair

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of a Serial Killer. Dr Simon Halla San from University College London

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led an investigation to identify the origins of the bones in the

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basement. They were the bones of humans and they were cut up. They

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were dated to the late 18th century. That ruled out a modern-day murder

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investigation. For the police, the case was closed. But the doctor

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began to piece together the truth behind this grisly mystery. These

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are some of the bones. This is the top part of the skull. These were

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dead people's bones? There is no healing. When that happens, new

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bone is deposited. We can see nothing like that. Somebody was

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cutting up dead bodies at the home occupied by Margaret Stevenson at

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the time. The lodger there was no other than Benjamin Franklin. Here

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he is, adorning the 100 dollar bill. He was one of the founders of the

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United States of America. He signed the declaration of independence. He

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helped draft the constitution. Before that, he lived here in

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London. He was one of the greatest Americans. This is his only

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surviving home. He came to be a colonial agent, in a sense

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Mediatique on behalf of the columnists in the dispute between

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Britain and America. As well as a diplomat he was a scientist,

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carrying out early research into the nature of electricity. It would

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be truly shocking if the first American had also been

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experimenting on the dead. Then a clue changed the course of the

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investigation. A turtle spine used in a bizarre experiment. Further

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research revealed a record of that in the Royal Society in 1770. The

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scientist was William Houston. He turned out to be a friend of

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Benjamin Franklin and shared the same address, 36 Craven Street,

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from which he was running a private anatomy school. In Georgian England,

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a growing demand for an education in surgical medicine led to the

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creation of such schools. The only legitimate source of bodies for

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study were the corpses of the 50 or so criminals executed each year in

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the capital. To acquire enough bodies, he must have occupied the

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shadier fringes of the Age of Enlightenment. Demand for fresh

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corpses for the anatomy schools far outstripped the official supply. So,

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Houston turned to those gentlemen of the night known as Resurrection

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nests. They were body Snatchers and procured bodies for cash. Craven

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Street was ideally located for a supply of dead bodies. At one end

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was Hungerford Dock, where the bodies of those who had died at sea

:56:17.:56:25.

or been drowned on the river Thames were brought to dock. At the other

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end, the notorious gallows, just behind chairing Cross station was a

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graveyard. We may never know the whole truth. But it seems unlikely

:56:37.:56:40.

that Benjamin Franklin would have been unaware of the nocturnal

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comings and goings. They couldn't simply return the cut up courses. -

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- corpses. He decided he had to bury them in the backyard, away

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from prying eyes, where they remained hidden for more than 200

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years. As for Benjamin Franklin, he returned to America and said

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goodbye to 36 Craven Street. An embassy, an historic house and a

:57:07.:57:17.
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Slightly morbid, music to match. Listen to that. Jon Bon Jovi on the

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You heard it, I am walking away and leaving it to the professionals.

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Considering it takes a year for some people to get a sound from it,

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good going. He was good down dissent, the lower note. He had a

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good teacher. Back in history, a lot of composers used this. Mozart?

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And many others, yes. 400 works have been composed on this

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instrument. What is the most bizarre instrument Bon Jovi

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experimented with? We tried some different kind of strange

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instruments especially over the years. This is what you need! Get

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him on board. Would you give us a little bit of something special?

:58:13.:58:23.
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Classical music? Whatever takes Look at that, for a double. This is

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my partner, Orlando, with my daughter. It doesn't say who it was

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