24/02/2014 The One Show

to be attempting to broadcast live on both BBC One And Radio 2. I'm not

sure we have thought it through. It is this way! Come on!

Well, hello and welcome to the One Show. For the first time ever, we

are live on BBC One And Radio 2. For the next in it or so. There is a

good reason, Augustine at's guest is still doing his day job... It is

Simon Mayo! I can't tell you how excited he was just coming in the

lift. Complete indifference normally. What have you got around

you hear? A load of rubbish. Dust bins, paperwork telling me what I'm

supposed to do. The music is on the hard drive. Here it is. It used to

be seven inch vinyl, then it was cartridges, then it was CDs. It is

colour-coded? Speaking of which, it is good that you have got the One

Show sofa green here. Now, Simon is going to say goodbye shortly. Year

macro for those of you watching on BBC One, we are staying with music.

Richard Mannering has been to see what makes the perfect drivetime

tune. There are 35mm vehicles on the road

in the UK. At some time in your car, I bid you crank up the music N Sync

loudly. -- I've set. What makes great driving music? Can

you think of any fantastic driving songs? Ocean Drive. It takes me back

to San Francisco. Joy riding home to Christmas, I'm driving back home and

I hear that was -- driving home. AC/DC! I love that. I have come to

the Academy of considering using to find out what makes these songs are

wine you sing along to -- the ones you sing along to. I am eating

Fraser. What makes a great driving song? Usually make up of movement,

something positive, usually something quite uplifting. They all

seem to have an uplifting tempo. It is a lovely, clappy kind of thing.

And massive hook. Something where everybody knows the words. I was

thinking of Whitney Houston, I want to be with somebody. But

actually... The courts don't change. What keeps it going is because

underneath. -- the chords. They tend to be quite high, vocally. Then you

have to shut them out. Like Bon Jovi. In terms of tempo, you can

also have the downbeat. So, power ballads. It is difficult for blokes

to sing. Richard Park is the head of global radio, the largest commercial

radio group in Europe, which runs national stations, including gold,

heart and F M. Are you at the back of your head thinking, that is a

great driving song? Is that one of the ideas? Absolutely. You are

always looking for that great driving song. You are looking to

make sure they stay tuned. When the playlist is put together, you are

always looking for those songs that are going to trigger in motion. What

makes listening to music in a car so special? If you are looking for a

really good song to set the car journey off well, go for Bruno Mars.

In the main, the old classics go down a storm. It is the end of your

working day, you have had enough, suddenly on comes one of those real

gems. We have done it! We have got to the studio. Go and take a seat

over there. So, Simon, did we have different voices on the radio? Yes.

We went up, and you smiled more. My voice has gone into a strange TV

mode. I walk past here every day, having finished on the radio, and I

always wave, and nobody pays any attention. Do need to get a

loud-hailer. In that film, it was all about the ability to sing along.

In the 30 years you have been a DJ mates do you have a clue of the most

requested song? What about your requests on a Friday? It depends. If

the rugby is on, Tom Jones and Delilah. It just comes on every

single time. It is great because not only is it a fantastic song from

1965 or wherever, but it does a whole life to it. Tom is on the

telly every Saturday. -- it has a whole new life to it. We have lots

of Cyndi Lauper, lots of ABBA. Wow, they are on it! And are these the

kind of songs on the new arm? The idea of this CD was just put a whole

bunch of fantastic Radio 2 records on there. We have live bands. What

are we doing here that is different? Taylor Swift has come on

a couple of times and played live, and she is fantastic. Squeeze have

done a live track. Paul Weller has them alive track. That is what will

make it different. The rest is weak, singalong, wind it up... Was it a

big decision about what to have put on first? It might well have been. I

would love to have been the sequencer. For viewers of a

particular age, the sequencing of tracks is important. If you listen

to it on shuffle, nobody cares. I think it matters. The Lumineers

first. -- are first. There they are. Simon, your love affair with the

radio, is it fair to say it started in the back of your dad's are? I was

in the front, actually. -- your dad's are?

My mother would always say how exciting it was to work at the BBC,

so that is what I thought I would do. The thing you are referring to

is Tony Blackburn doing the radio show. I was insistent that I would

stay in the car. I would want to stay until I found out what number

one was because the charts really mattered. I knew he was itching to

put Radio 4 on. He was desperate to get this stuff off. I wanted to hear

that rundown of the chart. I would say Simon is one of the voices that

has carried me through my life. I would agree. I drive home with you

in the evening. You have been with me for a long time. Thanks very

much. Let's move on. Tomorrow, the Director of Public Prosecutions for

England and Wales makes a speech tomorrow on criminals hiding assets

aboard. Tony Livesey has been to the Costa Del Sol to meet a Spanish

policewoman who already has British, nor is running scared.

-- British criminals. This is the head of the Spanish police fugitives

unit. Last year she brought 300 criminals

to justice. This year she promises more. Right now we are close to a

few of them that we have been working for for along time. It is

going to be a good year for us, a bad year for them. 2013 was a bad

year for this British villain. The team pay him a surprise village --

visit. Mark Lilly was the mastermind behind a ?1 million drug dealing

racket. He had been on the run for 13 years after skipping bail during

his trial in the UK. It took us 45 minutes. He was taking a shower when

he heard something. He moved into the panic room. He had retreated to

a heavily fortified secret room. But he was eventually flushed out. You

are armed today. Is that normal? Yes, always. You never know how they

are going to react. Olga and her team worked with the National Crime

Agency in the UK. Every time they suspect the criminal is headed the

Spain, they tipped her off. With such a large British community, it

can be easier for them to disappear, which means there's a lot of

legwork. Right now I am in Malaga, and I don't know when I am going to

be back in Madrid. I understand that if you have got a husband or

boyfriend and kids, that this is not the place to be. And you have none

of those. Now, just work. How do you feel about that? I am happy. Gerard

is a British journalist based in Marbella. They want to be with

people who look and sound the same. They like that there is a criminal

support structure for them. If they want to be protected by their own,

so to speak, and work in murky areas, they can carry on doing so.

What about Olga? Has she made a difference? I think so. Andrew

Mullen was one of Britain's most wanted criminals, a convicted armed

robber from Salford University on the run for four years. Until

Olga's team pounced as he was relaxing by the pool at his villa.

It was one of the most satisfying arrests of her career. That was

personal business. When I try to get him in 2012, he hid the car and

almost killed one of my guys. He ran away. We thought we had lost him. We

found him in May, 2013. That was great! He is now serving 6.5 years

in a jury jail for offences he committed on the run. Once he has

done his time in Spain, he will be deported to be sentenced for his UK

crimes. You are not looking for nice guys. The message is, choose another

place. If you come to Spain, we are going to find you, that is for sure.

Wow. Tony has made it safely back. She is a remarkable woman. Is it

right that she has a screensaver? Yes, those two guys were her

screensaver until she called them. She is absolutely dedicated. She is

formidable. And the sacrifices she has made... There is news on that.

The Director of Public Prosecutions tomorrow will announce tomorrow even

tougher measures going into this. Olga is going to get help. There are

six more specialist lawyers going into this field. The first two will

be specialists in asset recovery. This is a phenomenal statistic. 60%

of the acid recovery officer's work is related to Britain. -- asset.

What will happen to that money? We would like it to go back to the

victims but in some cases they cannot be found, they must make sure

they take the money off the criminals because they pump it back

into the criminal world. Just this weekend there was a large arrest.

Yes, David Madder. Sentenced to 18 year, he was caught near the border

of Spain, he will be extradited and this is part of the scheme Olga is

involved with. The Crimestoppers charity as well and they have

targeted 76 people since 2006. 76 targeted. They have 58 of them.

It shows they mean business. It's a great deterrent, to see Olga is out

there doing what she is. She does that, walks up and down the streets,

looking in bar, she is armed and ready. I said what do you do if we

see someone. She said I'll be in there. I said I won't.

You did go all Ross Kemp on us there. I was one scared man.

Thank you Tony. Last week Dan Snow shared the story of his family

heirloom from World War I, which just happened to be the Treaty of

Versailles. Tonight he meets three One Show

viewers with theirs. For those who fought on the front

line, to the family they left at home, the great war had an immense

and unforgettable impact on the lives of millions of people. Now,

100 years on, individual stories are being kept alive, by the very

personal, precious mementoes and keep sakes they give us a memory of

the dark days. From letters and diaries to

decorated artillery shells, over the coming months, we will uncover the

hidden history behind them. My name is Simon. My great war

heirloom belonged to my great uncle. It was a small green army issue book

he kept in his breast pocket. Pierced.

Patrick and three other men were sent out on night watch, the sentry

wasn't made wear there was a patrol out there and they opened fire, and

as you can see, the bullet pierced the book. Patrick was killed and he

was one of the last casualties of the war. Two days later it was

finished. To realise he was that close to the end of the war, to be

killed by his own side, it brings home the futility of the war. To

hold the book where you see he has written notes and prayer, it means a

lot to our family, to have this, it is the last kind of thing we have,

to remember Patrick by. Every night when I am in bed, I have

such awful dream, in fact, the neighbours grumble. I wake them with

my screams. But when I got to hush a bye I dream

I was back home. Last artefact I remember Patrick by. It is very

personal to him and very important to our family. The fact I have this

in my hand, I mean, it is incredible really.

My Great War heirloom is my grandfather's 21st birthday card.

My dad passed away, and in the bottom of his wardrobe we found a

21st birthday card that was hand made. It was given to my grandad in

world war one, he would have been a volunteer and given the job to

contact people who had lost people, either missing in action, or had

been killed. Someone had sat down and they have

scrolled and lined and drawn and got all these signatures on it, for my

grandad. It was given to my grandad and

passed down to my father, and now, I have got the honour of having it. I

feel that I am privileged to have it and see it. My name is Stephen Bull

and my great war heirloom is a sweetheart brooch of the royal

flying corps that came from my grandmother. She was born in 1900 so

she was 14 when the war started. It had a very big impact on her life,

really. For her time, she was quite a modern thinking sort of girl, she

rode a motorcycle as a young age, she was keen on dancing and there is

a lot of photographs. Perhaps one of the most interesting ones to me, is

a patriotic shot where she is wearing the flags of the allies and

doing a dance. It is so much of its period, really.

The sweetheart brooch was given to my grandmother by a Scottish airman,

about 1916 or 1917. My grandmother gave me to believe that he was a

prospective boyfriend, so where he went and what happened to him, sadly

I don't know. But it was something that she hung on to for more than

half a century, so it did have a meaning to her, and equally it has a

meaning to me. That is why it is my Great War heirloom.

Incredible to still have hold of these heirlooms and wonderful for

Stephen to share in his grandmother's life and the brooches

were not common, but they there were a lot of them. 19th century, things

like the brooches, or this badge here, became more normal for average

people. People who didn't have a lot of money could afford things like

this, and here is one celebrating Gallipoli day, a couple of years

after Gallipoli. A picture of the king. A badge, so these things

normal people could afford these and have them in their families. Where,

would those be available back sheer Probably here, for chart tab causes

to help the service people. I know Simon will like this. This is called

trench art. Those are mass produced. This is the tip of a bullet,

probably wasn't fired, and you would, people would make sort of you

know, jewellery out of it and send it home or send it to loved ones or

family. So look at that. That is is a bullet brooch. It has Woolwich on

it. I am amaze amazed everyone showed you their heirlooms, where do

you go with the Treaty of Versailles? I have the Magna Carta

here? ! This was made probably in France, so it is a French Frank

here, on the reverse it -- franc. It has the guy's name, his unit. They

would send that back and the person at home knows they are thinking of

them and they are safe, and it is a memento. For the person in the

etrenches doing this, it is a great bit of escapism. There is a lot of

metal lying round, so you scoop it up. This is a blade of a shell

casing, so you can polish it and turn it into something. It is a nice

thing for them to do. And people at home lovely to get the sense they

are OK, they have time to snake something. We would love to hear

from other viewers about their personal heirlooms so send your

stories and a picture of the heirloom to the usual address. It is

on the screen. Now, you mention the Treaty of

Versailles, and... How could you not? Viewers have been in contact

since your film went out. You said in that piece you didn't have any

photos from the Conference of 199. Someone has been in touch -- 1919. A

guy called David Hawkin, his ancestor was there and he has some

pictures so I will check them out. Now, time for something even older.

A scroll so ancient its contents have remay main add mystery, that

was until Marty got his hands on it P -- remained a mystery. Ancient

documents are a historian's best friend when it comes to piecing

together the lives of our ancestor, the most famous are the Dead Sea

scrolls. When they were discovered in 1947 historians were amazed but

how well presevered they seemed. But opening documents is risky.

Ancient scrolls are often so delicate, and damaged, if you try

and unroll them they just fall apart if your hands and the information

contained in them be lost forever. But, a new innovation means it may

soon be possible to read the pages of history without ever opening

them. Gary from the Norfolk record office

has a passion for piecing together the daily lives of our ancestors.

Show me what you have got Take it down a bit. So this is from about

1409, 1410. It is 600 years old. Yes. So can you unroll it any

further? We can't go any further I am afraid. Why not? In the past,

this document has got wet, and the parchment has fused together. So if

pull it any further it will disintegrate and we won't be able to

find out what was written in it. 600 years ago pressing Hamann nor was

home to 400 people. Gary hopes this scroll will give him a glimpse in

their day-to-day lives. The scroll is the first to undergo a new

technique, pioneered here at Queen Mary university in London. But they

aren't specialists in record keeping, or art history, it is a

dental school. Dr Graeme Dey advice has developed a

super sensitive x-ray machine that looks inside teeth. It can

distinguish between two materials just one 50th of a millimetre apart.

That is a fraction of a human hair. But now, he has turned the

technology to looking inside ancient scrolls too.

The ink that was used in medieval times contains iron, so in the so we

can see iron in the ink because it a heavy element. It shows up more

compared with the parchment it is written on.

The machine scans very fine slices of the scroll and builds them into a

digital model made up from 11 billion 3-D pixels.

The scanned scroll is still rolled up, but Dr Paul from the University

of Cardiff has worked out a way to unwrap it digitally. What is this

image here and what do you do with it? So we get 10,000 x-ray cross

sections which are showing a cross section as we go along the length of

the scroll, and they have this bright outline, which is the

parchment and the bright points core spend to ink. So you have a slice

through the role. Yes And these little splotches, that is the ink.

Yes, so we have to extract out the parchment, we have to do the

unrolling, we have take the intensities and stick them all

together, to form the resulting image.

It has taken months to carefully line up thousands of these tiny

slices. Today, Paul is going to show archivist Gary the result. If it is

readable it will be a world first. Let us look. It has been 600 years

since this has been read. This is what we can see. Now, we we have

uncovered all this. That is really good. It is better than I

anticipated. Can you read any of this? This is dealing with the sale

of fishing rights. Someone called William Skeet. He is the Reeve. The

manager who these accounts are being made for. So he sold himself the

fishing rights? Yes, that is the That is the way it works. The scroll

is only the begin, in the near future it is hoped this technique

will be able to unravel more of history's hidden secrets.

Wow. On the writing theme, Simon you were saying you have written three

kids's science novels. Yes the first was Rich. Then Itch Rock, so yes,

and then Itch Craft comes out in September. Your incentive for

writing them? I just have a blast. It's the most thrilling visceral

thing, so I am a radio presenter, you are a TV presenter, if you, you

work with teams, you have to work with very good people. If you are a

writer you do it on you own. Didn't you initially, you have this

inspiration for your son, because you wanted your son to have books...

He was ten at the time. He came from school not interested in sport, only

in science so I thought I would write him a short story. It became a

big story. I came across this phrase element hunter which is someone who

collects the periodic table. He discovers dangerous rocks. They are

great reads. We have run out of time. Thank you for coming in. It

was fantastic, come over any time. I will be back tomorrow with Simon

Callow.