24/08/2011 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker.

Tonight the multi-millionaire business woman who has been blowing

hot and cold in the Dragons' Den. You are talking potential investors

into your business. It was your job to come on here and make us aware.

You would make my for tickets, mate. I'm not a news, I'm angry, I am out.

It is Hilary Devey. You said that you were not amused, but you were

laughing at yourself. What you see is what you get and he really did

make me itch, my foot in it. What does that mean? It is used very

commonly in my business. When they have not got the right answer at

the right time. Which Dragon make sure foot ditch? It is before the

watershed. We are going to be hearing a lot more about dragons

then later on. We will be giving Hillary the chance to tell us which

of these three brave Cup performers she would put her money on. It is

brilliant. The question is, are you in? First, new research has found

you are more likely to pick up your partner's bad habits than the good

ones. It is bad news if you have hooked up with a nose at picking

couch potato. We sent our very own Mr Perfect to find out if this is

true with holidaymakers in south end.

Kiss-me-quick and squeeze Me slowly. Apparently that is how it starts

for a lot of us, but apparently it goes downhill from there because we

pick up each other's bad habits. We are more to blame than the ladies.

Never. What bad habits have you picked up? And not being as tidy.

Leaving clothes on the floor. the eating in bed. When I first met

you I was slim. Puts my cigarettes out in eight cup of tea. Have you

got a couple of hours? He keeps passing wind and you are doing the

same thing now? Have you picked up any bad habits? Never, squeaky

clean. She picks her nose and eats it. He says really arrogant things

and I repeat the things he says. think you did the toilet in the

shed. What were you like before? Really nice and really quiet.

boyfriend ever picked up a big habits -- bad habits from you?

might pick me up. You have become messier because of her. A lot

messier, but I still love her. us a little kiss.

Extraordinary. I would not believe it for a minute, but have you

picked up any bad habits from your husband? I would hope not, because

I have recently remarried, but he moans incessantly from the moment

he gets up to the money goes to sleep. I really hope he does not

catch that. Her as he started asking random strangers about their

cashflows? He is continuously asking me about my cashflow. Good

news, it is Canal week and it is day three. We have had an e-mail.

Can we have a mention for the tunnel on the Huddersfield narrow

Canal, Britain's longest, narrowest and deepest canal tunnel and it is

200 years old this year will stop that is from the visitors' centre

manager. We have been finding out about the men who build them, the

navvies. The Pontcysyllte Acqueduct. The

locks. The great cut of the Caledonian, all monumental feats of

canal engineering, but there are no monuments to the men who put them

up. The untold story of Britain's canals is of the might and the

muscle of those who built them well before the age of machinery and

armed only with a pick axe and a shovel. They dug through mountains

and forests and valleys. Wherever they went they were shunned by

locals and treated badly by their big money bosses. History has not

been much kinder to them either. There are a few chronicles of the

navvies who changed Britain's landscape. Decades before laying

the railways, they were carving canals throughout the land, like

Devon's Grand Western, built in the early 1800s. From what little we

know about them, their lives were tough. When you look around, there

are not bed-and-breakfasts or 300 blokes. They had to make do with

what they could find. They would have a shanty town until the job

was finished. They would have stayed on the banks of the canal?

Yes, it was very rough and ready. The workforce was tough. It had to

be, it was dangerous. A good navvy could dig and shed 12 cubic yards

in a day. To give you an idea of what that is like... OK? That is a

massive 13 tons of blood, sweat and tears. And all in one day. With a

work ethic like that, then Maddy was much sought after. By 1795,

Parliament had green lit the building of 60 canals in Britain.

The labour supply could not keep up with demand, so the answer came

from overseas. It is a myth they were all Irish, but some were. You

could get a ticket from Ireland to Britain for 12.5 pence and you

could earn that in a couple of days easily, so it was worth coming over.

Local people could not compete with them. These men had so much brawn

and strength that they had become a mighty force on their own. They

began young and soon they learned to live hard as well. Now these

were paid in tokens, so the pubs sprang up where they could spend

their currency and it was their bruising that made it into the

history books. The Taunton courier dubbed them, savage, ungovernable

bandits. Another writer said they were the terror of the countryside.

When the navvies could not find people to exchange their tokens

with, as often happened, all hell broke loose as it did here near

Exeter in April 1811. A mob of 300 cash-strapped navvies who had been

digging out the Grand Western Canal descended on the village. They

headed for the local boozer. It was fair day. The globe in was one of

the many pubs where they would have been drinking. They started about

three in the afternoon, throwing stones and breaking windows.

Eventually they came across a person in the street they recognise.

The account in the local paper read, the rioters followed him to the

house. They broke the windows. He considered it necessary to

discharge a loaded pistol at his assailants and one man fell dead on

the spot. That now beat was buried somewhere here in their village

cemetery. His chances of justice were pretty unlikely. The coroner

ruled his death was a justifiable homicide. And one final insult,

there was no money for a headstone, so no one knows where he was buried.

I suppose in that way he remains anonymous like so many of his

compatriots. The navvies came and went through Victorian Britain,

avoided and unknown. But in almost every county they have left their

mark on our land. Incredible. Tomorrow we will be finding out

about how canals were the main mode of transport for delivering eyes

and ice-cream in that 18 50s. made a fortune in the haulage

industry working with lorry drivers up and down the country. What would

they say about you? Well... It is 7 o'clock. I would like to think they

would say quite nice things. I think particularly in my original

family business, without doubt they know how hard I worked to get the

business to where it is today. I think they know I am very firm, but

I am equal -- equally very fair. I would like to think they say nice

things, but I can talk their language if they need wheatear.

Always be a lady and not have to do so. You said you worked hard to get

the business started. You were not born with a silver spoon.

Absolutely and I have had some hard times. Even when I started the

business I used to measure the amount of food I bought into how

many pallets I could move that night. How did it all start? It was

a concept, not a particularly new one. It had been done already in

the parcel industry, but it had never been done in haulage. The

concept was there were loads of lorries going about the country

empty. I started thinking about the environmental consequences and the

cost consequences of that. Haulage is based on wheels. I thought how

can I utilise 100% of that space so we can reduce the amount of lorries

on the road and reduce the Co2 emissions, and also give hauliers a

greater margin. They are the hardest working industry

undoubtedly in this country and work on some of the lowest margins.

They are the most heavily penalised. You ended up selling your house and

your car. Yes, absolutely. I started from a Second World War

aircraft hangar that was overrun with rats with two chemical toilets,

that I shared with 40 lorry drivers, so I learnt excellent control. The

computers constantly failed and I literally had no money. We used to

buy ink and inject the cartridges to save money. Nothing is for

nothing. Event away from the business, it is fair to say you

have had your ups and downs. Even the birth of your son was

distressing. The birth was delightful end that I adore and

worship the ground he walks on. But the subsequent break-up with his

father was incredibly distressing. It was perhaps when he was 20

months old I found out he was already married with five children,

one of which was only a few months younger than my own son. It was

quite heartbreaking at the time. Does that make you Taffia? Yes, I

think it gave me the resolve to carry on, because I then had two

choices. I focused on a career and earning money to give him the

lifestyle I wanted to give him. Or I joined the rest of civilisation

and did what everybody else did. And it is not easy. It is not easy.

We are delighted to have you on Dragons' Den. Let's have a look at

next week's episode. I think you are fabulous, but I can go to parts

of the world and by that for 300 euros. A garden in Morocco will

have a chair of some distinction like that. If you are saying it is

costing you �800 to make them here, you would not be paying it out of

that in Morocco. It is about making things in the UK it. We do not

outsource everything. But business is also about making money and

profitability. You are absolutely right. The bottom line. One of the

things you have brought to the den is a sense of style. Was that a

conscious decision, or do you always dress like that? I always

dress like that. Even when you are not at work. If you see me on a

Saturday shopping in Oxford Street, you would see me in a pair of

leggings and a baggy sweater. bigger the shoulder pad the more

the power? No, I do not think so. I'd just like shoulder pads. It is

my style. Britain has taken you to their hearts. You have made an

incredible impact. I hope what they see is what they get. I am very

much on their side, I love my country and what we are trying to

achieve. Dragons' Den is on on Sunday night at 8pm on BBC Two.

Christine Walkden, our gardening correspondent, loves the perks of

her job. She gets to snoop around the gardens of the rich and famous.

Tonight it is the turn of Radio 2 DJ Jo Wiley.

The owner of this garden is used to a bit of March, whether it is in

Glastonbury, or getting stuck into her own potato patch, Jo Wylie is

not frightened of getting her hands dirty. I got a potato. Alongside

her lifelong love of rock music, she has developed a real passion

for gardening. Where did you love of gardening come from? My grandad

was into gardening and I remember him pottering around all the time

and he had a lovely green house and an abundance of tomatoes. My mum

has always done gardening as well This is a family garden so it's

also got to be a playground because Jo and her husband Steve have four

children. This garden is just massive and expansive and wide and

has a real sense of freedom. It just suits the way we live and the

way we like to be so we can all run wild. It's like a blank canvas as

well. There's a lot that needs doing to it and that's where I have

been floundering. What do you want to achieve with this garden? I want

a beautiful border. I am obsessed with going to country houses and I

have been taking photographs of their gardens and keep trying to

replicate those. Something that you might want to consider is making

that border wider because narrow borders are always very difficult

to get a balance. If you took it out probably another foot or even

two feet you would be able to do so much more with it. OK. Although

it's a lot of work. It's more work! You don't buy a picture, you grow a

picture. It's a garden in the making is what I have here. This is

the pond. Yeah. It was supposed to be like a flowing river and some

beautiful water feature but it's a bit of a puddle really. It's

stagnant. It's a nice size and it could look very beautiful but it's

a big project. One day. This is nice. It's lovely, isn't it.

I am quite proud of this. My daughter is two and a half and I

think every single day we come out here, she wakes me in the morning

and says can we go to the vegetable garden, mummy. The tomatoes are

coming on a treat. When do I know if the carrots are ready? Scratch

around the top you will find they have a shoulder and these haven't

so they're not ready. You want to thin them as well. If you leave

them like that... I can go to the village show with that that! These

are really sweet at this stage. they all right? Yeah, go on.

it's all right. Course it is, very I am never happier than when I am

in the garden. My husband says I look like I am in a bad mood, no,

this is me being happy. I live a frantic life surrounded by music

and manic and when I come to the garden it's me on my own. I don't

listen to music, I like escaping being with my thoughts and the

flowers and the earth and it kind of helps me cling on to my sanity.

Barely, but I do. I think it's working.

Two extra foot on your borders. We have another Lancashire lass here,

Christine is here. Now autumn is approaching. Absolutely, it's the

time to keep gardening, harvest your herbs. If you want anything in

flower for Christmas now is the time to get the bulbs in, radishes,

Leticia lettuces. Keep harvesting. They'll be better plants next year.

You have a big garden in Staffordshire. That's good advice.

Yeah, she's brilliant, Christine. She will keep you right. Let's look

at your garden in Morocco. You are welcome. Anyway, just very quickly

I have something you might be interested in. This is an invention,

it's called The Baker Hose. The idea is here, it doesn't get stuck

around walls because this is tapered. Give me a shake when he is

finished. What do we think? Are we in or out? Philip, where are you?

will have a word with Peter Jones. You have done an interesting thing

with a pallet. It's amazing what you can do. Look at this, this is

what you can do with a pallet. Make a pallet guard and, Hillary. All

you need is some plants and a pallet, landscape fabric, compost,

line the back of the pallet, fill it with compost. Staple it well.

Firm the compost in. Plant as many plants as possible. Make sure the

top is really ran down. Leave it on the ground for a fortnight for

plants to root into. Stand it up and the flowers will grow cover.

That is unbelievable. There's something for the garden in Morocco.

There is more information on our website. Thank you, Christine.

one of the last bastions of social life is in decline, the good old

working men's club. Three club acts will be performing. We asked

Russell Watson to find out how they're adapting to life in the

21st century. The Blackpool Philharmonic club,

it's been 15 years since I performed here and what immediately

strikes me is it hasn't changed a bit. The working men's clubs and

institutes union was formed in 1862 by reverend Henry Solly, the clubs

were set up as an alternative to pubs, focusing on wholesome sports

and games. Within a decade drinking joined these activities and the

mould was cast for clubs for the next 150 years. Clubs grew from

strength to strength after the war and up until the middle of the

1970s where there were over 4,000 clubs that we know about. Follow me.

This was - I suppose what you could describe as a bijou dressing room.

Your fan heater for the cold months in Blackpool. Of course, every

singer's very own personal ashtray. Since the heydey the number of

clubs has nosedived to just over 2000 and attendance is dwindling.

32 clubs in Blackpool, there are now 15, which to me is a disaster.

It's not just Blackpool. It's everywhere in the country. If the

club world dies out what do you think you will lose as a society?

social gathering place. You come to a club, you sit in a concert room,

you don't know the person next to you but in five minutes you are

talking to them because everybody is so friendly. In 1972 there were

probably around six million people going to clubs on a regular basis,

I mean for some men every night and twice at the weekends. Already

there were signs they were unpopular with a younger generation

and they weren't taking place. It's not all doom and gloom, you

know. This is one of the clubs I played at as well. This is thriving

at the moment and we are going to find out why.

The Bloomfield Club is a mile from the Philharmonic yet it has a

three-year waiting list. They've gone back to the roots of the clubs

using games, social activities and entertainment to attract the

working men and more importantly, their wives. Originally women were

only allowed into the clubs on special occasions, for concerts and

at weekends, but it was with the arrivals of the Sex Equality Act

that by law they had to be allowed to become full members. Nice to see

you again. I believe you have something interesting to show me.

This is the book of all the artists that appeared in 1997 and as you

can see, there you are. Russ Watson. That was a bargain price, pal! What

do I attribute to the success of this club? I think the bar prices

are right. The entertainment we put on is first-class. We have to put

on something which will attract the younger element. It just seems to

be that the social clubs aren't their scene, but again to join the

local football team with football teams within the club, we have

snooker teams, bowls teams, the funds are there for them. With so

many clubs struggling they've certainly got their work cut out to

ensure the tradition of the working men's clubs continues. To survive

they're going to have to move with the times.

It's been a real trip down memory lain for me. This is where I served

my apprenticeship as an entertainer and it put me in great stead for my

career. Is this the end of the working men's club era? I hope not,

because it's a great British tradition and hopefully long may it

continue. Thank you very much indeed. And

thank you all, quieten down, please. Thank you very much. Hi there. Now

tonight we thought it would be right to celebrate some of the acts

still performing in the clubs circuit. Could there be another

star in the making? Hillary, we know you are not somebody who

minces your words, so for fun we would like to know which of the

three acts you would invest in. Are you comfortable in your dragon's

chair? Yes, I would like to take it with me. It's a present from us.

First, a comedy impressionist from Derby. Tonight he is Freddie

# You thanks, Rick. Next a familiar face on the comedy

circuit on the northeast, give it up for Sue Sweeney. There's no

money about, is there? I have just been on the market, you will never

guess what I saw. Fake Primark jumpers. I didn't know what to wear

tonight, nothing fits. My kids said why don't you wear the magic

knickers, you can lose 10lb in weight, I said get us two pair.

Have you seen the magic knickers, they're this big. It took

neighbours and all next door to pull them up on us and you can

never get the Guset where it should be. It's a nightmare.

Wonderful stuff. Marvellous. Finally, a Swansea

tphraeufrt, she's -- favourite. She sings everything from Dame Vera

Lynn to Lady Gaga, take it away # Let me get right to the point

# Hey big spender What about that. All right, ladies

and gentlemen. Well, Big Spender very apt for Hillary. If you had to

invest which would it be? It's my era, it's Freddy. What about that?