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Hello and welcome to the One with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker. | :00:15. | :00:26. | |
Tonight we have got two actors with us. Both have been in Gavin and | :00:26. | :00:34. | |
Stacey. Both are writers. Both are comedians. So, please welcome, Mat | :00:34. | :00:45. | |
Baynton and James Corden! Very nice to see you. Smelling divine. It is a | :00:45. | :00:53. | |
big night for you. The Wrong Mans starts tonight. It has been in the | :00:54. | :01:03. | |
papers. Is he the new Ruth Jones? I could not possibly fill those shoes! | :01:03. | :01:12. | |
I don't mean anything by that! He is a very talented lad. Yes. We had an | :01:12. | :01:21. | |
idea for a TV show and we came up with it while we were shooting Gavin | :01:21. | :01:23. | |
and Stacey. That was where the idea with it while we were shooting Gavin | :01:23. | :01:29. | |
came about for the The Wrong Mans. You have played the Sidekick to | :01:29. | :01:37. | |
James quite a lot. Only in that and also in a film called Telstar. James | :01:37. | :01:51. | |
and Ruth wrote me the part in Gavin and Stacey kindly. We then | :01:51. | :01:53. | |
and Ruth wrote me the part in Gavin talking about ideas we both fancied | :01:53. | :01:58. | |
having a go at. And then we thought, shall we have a go at | :01:58. | :02:02. | |
writing it? That was three years ago. We will talk about this a | :02:03. | :02:08. | |
little bit more. We have got some clips. | :02:08. | :02:14. | |
Rick Stein is also here tonight. APPLAUSE He will be taking us back | :02:15. | :02:24. | |
to his childhood home and explaining what on earth in mackerel sky is. | :02:24. | :02:28. | |
It is not really what you are seeing what on earth in mackerel sky is. | :02:28. | :02:33. | |
but that is the best that graphics could do. | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
We were sure he will have something to say on the latest trend in fast | :02:37. | :02:40. | |
food. It is a fusion of two to say on the latest trend in fast | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
different fast foods in the same dish. The new cheeseburger pizza has | :02:43. | :02:51. | |
been in the papers. You have heard it correctly. To be honest, it looks | :02:51. | :02:57. | |
delicious. We ordered it and hopefully it will be here by the end | :02:57. | :03:02. | |
of the show, along with a cabal pizza and a hot dog pizza. We hope | :03:02. | :03:09. | |
you are hungry -- Donna Cabal pizza. This inspires us to ask you for your | :03:09. | :03:16. | |
unusual fusions. I had totally with pesto and fish, breaded fish sticks. | :03:16. | :03:24. | |
It does not work but it did! If you have an unusual food combination you | :03:24. | :03:31. | |
are convinced is the best thing, then let us know. Fried chicken | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
shops are popping up all over the high streets and attracting an | :03:36. | :03:38. | |
shops are popping up all over the alarming number of schoolchildren. | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
Jay Rayner has been to East London to see the new initiative to drive | :03:42. | :03:47. | |
-- to try to divert children away from the lure of fried chicken. | :03:47. | :03:53. | |
Fried chicken, the new staple of the British high street, we can't get | :03:53. | :04:01. | |
enough of it. The market is estimated at £15 billion a year. In | :04:01. | :04:10. | |
east London in 2010, there were over 250 takeaway joints and all 15 | :04:10. | :04:14. | |
secondary schools are within a five-minute walk of one. But today | :04:14. | :04:20. | |
there is a new project in town to combat the fried chicken invasion. | :04:21. | :04:25. | |
Our fried chicken shops a bad thing? Despite being tasty and convenient, | :04:26. | :04:30. | |
it is very unhealthy. Your average fried chicken meal of chips, chicken | :04:30. | :04:36. | |
and a drink has over half of your daily fat and salt and 70% of | :04:36. | :04:41. | |
calories. This street food trader and chef has been busy developing a | :04:42. | :04:52. | |
menu. That is my Caribbean chicken. What is in it? Peppers, onions, | :04:52. | :05:00. | |
fresh lime juice, fresh coriander. It is good food. What is the verdict | :05:00. | :05:07. | |
amongst the fried chicken faithfuls? In terms of being | :05:07. | :05:13. | |
healthy, really good. It has the lovely tomatoes and peppers. It is a | :05:13. | :05:19. | |
lot healthier. The problem is, you are not competing in price because a | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
lot of these guys do a meal deal for are not competing in price because a | :05:21. | :05:28. | |
99p, £1 50. There are definitely cheaper things and we cannot get | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
down to 99p, you are right, but it is competitive. Do you worry that | :05:32. | :05:41. | |
price could put them off? Yes but if they are aware of it, our sixth form | :05:41. | :05:47. | |
still has a canteen on-site but I think something like this would be | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
beneficial because it offers them wholesome food rather than greasy | :05:51. | :05:57. | |
junk food. Lots of Caribbean chicken with rice, very fresh and fiery. I | :05:57. | :06:02. | |
love it. The challenge for the project will be to get kids off the | :06:02. | :06:08. | |
nasty deep-fried stuff and onto this, which is clearly so much | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
better for them. What would you do for lunch? Chicken and chips. | :06:12. | :06:19. | |
Chicken and chips. Chicken and chips. This is a lot nicer than what | :06:19. | :06:26. | |
we get normally and hopefully our concentration will be better in | :06:26. | :06:31. | |
school because after lunch, you feel really drained, especially after a | :06:31. | :06:36. | |
greasy meal. We don't see any reason why you could not have healthy, | :06:36. | :06:41. | |
popular mobile traders serving food outside schools all over the UK. | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
They are relatively cheap to set up and run and there is no reason why | :06:45. | :06:50. | |
the kids shouldn't love them and be healthy at the same time. There is | :06:50. | :06:55. | |
no doubt this is a brilliant idea but so far we have only had five | :06:55. | :06:59. | |
students, and one of them is the head girl. I wonder what would | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
happen when the camera crews are not here. But it is only the first day | :07:03. | :07:08. | |
and these take a while to build up steam. Let's hope these go back to | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
school and tell the rest of their pupils that there is a good thing | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
going on. This is delicious! He looks like he enjoys his food, that | :07:17. | :07:24. | |
lad. Which ones would you go for? We have fried chicken. Which smells | :07:24. | :07:32. | |
very nice. Speaking as a vegetarian, I can safely say I would have | :07:32. | :07:41. | |
neither. Rice or chips. The chips or ice that haven't touched the meet. | :07:41. | :07:51. | |
-- rice. 471 calories in the chicken in a box, and 1165 calories in the | :07:51. | :07:59. | |
traditional fried chicken. Now, today, I would eat this one, but | :07:59. | :08:04. | |
when I was at school, I would have eaten that one, and that is the | :08:04. | :08:09. | |
message to send to the kids. If you start eating that one now, you will | :08:09. | :08:16. | |
not have to backtrack like I did! Or be a vegetarian and have none of | :08:16. | :08:22. | |
those issues. As we were staying at the start of the programme, The | :08:22. | :08:28. | |
Wrong Mans starts tonight. This is your first venture into writing | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
mainstream as we would call it. your first venture into writing | :08:30. | :08:36. | |
you explain the premise. It is a comedy thriller. It is a plot that | :08:36. | :08:41. | |
we tell a whole story over six episodes. It is kind of hard to | :08:42. | :08:49. | |
describe without starting to tell the story. It starts when my | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
character picks up a phone that rings at the sight of a car crash | :08:52. | :08:59. | |
that is not his phone. He gets embroiled in a big kidnapping | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
conspiracy and he seems to be the only one who can help this woman. | :09:02. | :09:11. | |
And the only person he trusts is my character, who is a | :09:11. | :09:11. | |
And the only person he trusts is my distribution assistant at the | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
council. He lives for this distribution assistant at the | :09:15. | :09:23. | |
They get embroiled in something far bigger and darker than they ever | :09:23. | :09:29. | |
dreamt possible. Let's have a look at a bit of tonight's episode. Your | :09:29. | :09:34. | |
characters are in turmoil, they don't know what to do. If this phone | :09:34. | :09:40. | |
had gone three seconds later I would not even have heard it! I should | :09:40. | :09:51. | |
just... No! Stop! Look it up! Lock it up! Lock it up! If that phone had | :09:51. | :10:02. | |
run three seconds later, but it didn't. It runs three seconds | :10:02. | :10:05. | |
earlier and there is a reason for that. Someone out there needs us, a | :10:05. | :10:12. | |
beautiful woman. We have to save her. Or there will be blood on your | :10:12. | :10:21. | |
hands. APPLAUSE When we were filming that, James added the repetition of | :10:21. | :10:31. | |
lock it up every take. You both wrote and produced this. | :10:31. | :10:38. | |
How does the dynamic work? To you as late? As director is the boss. He | :10:38. | :10:47. | |
was the boss without question -- the director is the boss. He is a | :10:47. | :10:54. | |
wonderful director who has only shot some big films before. That is what | :10:54. | :10:59. | |
you have to do. Once you write it, you hand it over and we concentrated | :10:59. | :11:04. | |
on playing our parts. You never really stopped writing. I probably | :11:04. | :11:11. | |
wrote a few too many look it ups in there! But that was more just to try | :11:11. | :12:53. | |
wrote a few too many look it ups in hands. APPLAUSE When we were | :12:53. | :13:04. | |
I was very happy in this bedroom, wrote a few too many look it ups in | :13:04. | :15:40. | |
I was very happy in this bedroom, looking out of this window and | :15:40. | :15:41. | |
I was very happy in this bedroom, thinking, that is my world. This was | :15:41. | :15:53. | |
Indian country as well. This was the drawing-room. This was my dad's | :15:53. | :16:03. | |
study as well I suppose. All through my teenage years he was getting more | :16:03. | :16:08. | |
and more bipolar. One minute you are very depressed and one minute you | :16:08. | :16:14. | |
are absolutely crazy with ideas. What was a beautiful childhood just | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
got tinged with this dress and my mother really... Eventually, sadly, | :16:19. | :16:40. | |
my dad committed suicide. It was a working farm. Still a lot of the | :16:40. | :16:47. | |
original buildings are there. My friend layers, he and I used to roam | :16:47. | :16:50. | |
original buildings are there. My around them and Mr behaved -- Les. | :16:50. | :16:59. | |
Hello, Les. How are you keeping? When you came back to hear from | :16:59. | :17:03. | |
Hello, Les. How are you keeping? boarding school and you said, Les, I | :17:03. | :17:06. | |
have something to show you that we boarding school and you said, Les, I | :17:06. | :17:11. | |
did at school. You were having a PE and drinking water at the same time | :17:11. | :17:15. | |
and you said, look at that, it goes straight through you. Oh my god! | :17:15. | :17:20. | |
Shoving off these naughty straight through you. Oh my god! | :17:20. | :17:21. | |
learnt at school! Exactly! Your dad straight through you. Oh my god! | :17:21. | :17:29. | |
ran the farm and he said, your boys are so naughty! The memories just | :17:29. | :17:41. | |
come flooding back. People associate me with Cornwall and seafood and all | :17:41. | :17:45. | |
this, but this is just as much a part of my culinary heritage and I | :17:45. | :17:57. | |
will never get tired of coming back. I love those films. It is so nice to | :17:57. | :18:03. | |
have you here to be able to thank you. What a lovely film. It really | :18:03. | :18:09. | |
got to me I have to say. We have a glass of water if you need to! I | :18:09. | :18:13. | |
didn't think they would use that bit! The biggest revelation to us | :18:13. | :18:23. | |
today is that you are not actually called Rick Stein at all. Tell us | :18:23. | :18:26. | |
today is that you are not actually what it is. I was christened | :18:26. | :18:33. | |
Christopher because my mum wanted it to be shortened to Kit. But then I | :18:33. | :18:40. | |
had the Jungle book read to me and the story about Ricky Dickey and my | :18:41. | :18:48. | |
brother started to call me Ricky, and I suppose I was a bit like a | :18:48. | :18:54. | |
mongoose, and it start! Does everybody call you Rick? Only in | :18:54. | :19:00. | |
Australia because on my credit card it is Christopher and they call me | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
Chris, and I don't like it! It really irritates me! The revelations | :19:04. | :19:11. | |
don't stop there. You left the farm, you even tried male modelling! Very | :19:11. | :19:19. | |
nice, Rick! We heard all about your childhood. | :19:19. | :19:31. | |
That was a lovely film you made. But how did you become a chef? What | :19:31. | :19:36. | |
journey did you go on after leaving Oxfordshire? It was a long journey. | :19:36. | :19:43. | |
At that stage as a male model I was working in a railway gang in the | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
desert in Australia! I did lots of odd jobs there. I came back and went | :19:48. | :19:54. | |
to Oxford University. I left Oxford with a very low degree, I started a | :19:54. | :20:00. | |
disco and bought a nightclub with a friend in Padstow. We were closed | :20:00. | :20:05. | |
down by the police because of fishermen fighting in there so I | :20:05. | :20:09. | |
ended up running a restaurant as a way to pay the bills. So I am not a | :20:09. | :20:15. | |
dedicated chef! I started in the 70s. But then you could build up a | :20:15. | :20:19. | |
restaurant out of nothing and I have been there ever since. Christopher, | :20:19. | :20:25. | |
this is amazing. Remarkably similar to my life story. The modelling, the | :20:25. | :20:32. | |
fights with fishermen. It is all in the book. Under A Mackerel Sky. I | :20:32. | :20:40. | |
love watching your programmes. It doesn't stop with your writing. What | :20:40. | :20:46. | |
do you put your quality of writing down to? My mother read to me from | :20:46. | :20:51. | |
an early age and I always enjoyed reading and when I came to start | :20:51. | :20:59. | |
writing my cookery books, the book -- the bits I really liked were | :20:59. | :21:01. | |
writing my cookery books, the book making the recipe is personal to me | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
and writing the introductions. I have written 17 cookery books now. | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
When I thought I would like to do some proper writing, I do not have a | :21:09. | :21:15. | |
novel in me, but I thought I could write my life story. It was a bit | :21:15. | :21:20. | |
like common people think chefs are just good at cooking, or a bit dim, | :21:20. | :21:25. | |
but I wanted to show that chefs are sensitive human beings. Just to | :21:25. | :21:32. | |
clarify. Under A Mackerel Sky. Lots of people will not know what that | :21:32. | :21:39. | |
means. The thing was, a third of way through the book I am on my way to | :21:39. | :21:44. | |
Australia, my father has just died, I am in term all, I made the | :21:44. | :21:46. | |
decision run away to see to I am in term all, I made the | :21:46. | :21:52. | |
Australia and just as I am leaving a pub in Notting Hill gate in London, | :21:52. | :21:58. | |
I come out, about to join a boat in Southampton, and I see a mackerel | :21:58. | :22:03. | |
sky. For Cornish people, a mackerel sky means bad weather to come so I | :22:03. | :22:08. | |
used it as a symbol of an unsettled time ahead. I did not come up with | :22:08. | :22:15. | |
the titles, somebody with -- at the publishers did. It all fits. The | :22:15. | :22:23. | |
picture on the front is me aged 11. And Rick Stein's autobiography Under | :22:23. | :22:30. | |
A Mackerel Sky is out now. We are following several British | :22:30. | :22:33. | |
businesses over a year. Four months ago we met entrepeneur mum | :22:33. | :22:38. | |
Amanda Jenner, who is desperately trying to earn enough to pay herself | :22:38. | :22:46. | |
a salary. Germany may seem an unlikely | :22:46. | :22:52. | |
destination for a Dorset -based business but there is a good reason | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
why I have come to Cologne. Over the next few days, buyers from the baby | :22:57. | :23:02. | |
industry will flock here and Amanda Jenner hopes it will give her potty | :23:02. | :23:07. | |
business the boost it needs. When I first met her in June, she was | :23:07. | :23:11. | |
hoping to take the world of toilet training by storm. I invented this | :23:11. | :23:18. | |
ten years ago, the world's only leak-proof potty. I invented it to | :23:18. | :23:23. | |
try to solve potty training problems when you are out and about. It is on | :23:23. | :23:30. | |
sale in 27 countries. But so far all of the prophets have had to be | :23:30. | :23:36. | |
ploughed back into the business. It is a constant struggle being a mum | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
and a businesswoman as well but you have to stay positive. Three months | :23:41. | :23:45. | |
later, she is setting up her stall at the world's largest baby and | :23:45. | :23:57. | |
children's trade fair in your report this is the moment of truth. What is | :23:57. | :24:04. | |
different about this? We have three new animal designs to make it more | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
fun for the children. It is more of an egg shaped. It has gripped so it | :24:10. | :24:16. | |
is nonslip. In some markets, like America, they are training later so | :24:16. | :24:21. | |
we have made it a bit bigger. The new parties will cost between £23 | :24:21. | :24:29. | |
and £25 on the high street but not a lot of that is profit. We only make | :24:29. | :24:33. | |
a couple of pounds for each potty because of the distribution, | :24:33. | :24:40. | |
packaging, manufacturing. £23 at the till and only £2 for you. We have to | :24:40. | :24:47. | |
sell a lot to make the money so that is the aim of the show. The door is | :24:47. | :24:55. | |
open. Over the next few shows, more than 20,000 retailers will visit the | :24:55. | :25:02. | |
show. Amanda is one of 1000 distributors trying to convince them | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
to put their products on their shelves. I am nervous but excited. | :25:05. | :25:13. | |
It has cost us ten grand. We need to sell 10,000 potties to make it | :25:13. | :25:19. | |
worthwhile. We are hoping to get the big names like John Lewis. We do not | :25:19. | :25:21. | |
worthwhile. We are hoping to get the know who they are, sometimes they | :25:21. | :25:25. | |
have their badges turned around. Hopefully, the big names. Two hours | :25:25. | :25:30. | |
in and it is clear there is Hopefully, the big names. Two hours | :25:30. | :25:35. | |
something not right. It is a bit quiet. For this time of the day, it | :25:35. | :25:40. | |
is a bit worrying. Hopefully it will start picking up. Eventually, some | :25:41. | :25:48. | |
by years to arrive. I like your product and I would like to sell | :25:48. | :25:51. | |
them on our website in Spain. Brilliant. Ten of those, ten of | :25:51. | :26:00. | |
those, ten of those. These are positive enquiries but they are for | :26:00. | :26:05. | |
small deals. Amanda needs interest from a major retailer. Finally, a | :26:06. | :26:13. | |
glimmer of hope, from the Chinese. We have more than 400 stores. That | :26:13. | :26:21. | |
is amazing. That is a big deal. Really big. As it continues, there | :26:21. | :26:28. | |
is further interest. If you can e-mail me with a quotation for the | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
Hong Kong price and I distribute in New Zealand as well so we would do | :26:32. | :26:39. | |
it for both markets. 2500. They come in parts of six. Your target was to | :26:39. | :26:47. | |
sell 10,000. How close did you get? We have had no signing on the dotted | :26:47. | :26:52. | |
line. We have had some really good leads so hopefully I can turn them | :26:52. | :26:57. | |
into business. No firm deals but expressions of interest from big | :26:58. | :27:04. | |
international companies like Amazon. Amanda is hopeful they will | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
lead to the orders she needs but it will be a number of months whether | :27:07. | :27:12. | |
she knows for certain whether her £10,000 gamble to come to the trade | :27:12. | :27:17. | |
fair will pay off. Early in the show we ask for your | :27:17. | :27:24. | |
favourite food fusions. We ordered a cheeseburger pizza earlier and it | :27:24. | :27:29. | |
should be here any minute. You have been sending in your food | :27:29. | :27:33. | |
fusions. Mike is having a pickled egg doughnut. In the words of one of | :27:33. | :27:41. | |
the contributors to my Indian programme, absolutely horrendous! I | :27:41. | :27:50. | |
agree. This is bacon crisps. An ideal replacement for bacon. Stephen | :27:50. | :27:59. | |
Smith's favourite dinner is fish fingers, chips with a tin of tomato | :27:59. | :28:08. | |
soup or Don. That was the door bell! The pizza has arrived. We are | :28:08. | :28:17. | |
uploading pizza, I don't know why. Thank you, Ashley. First name terms | :28:17. | :28:23. | |
with the pizza delivery man. Here we go, the latest fusion for pizzas. | :28:23. | :28:28. | |
That beauty is a cheeseburger pizza. It doesn't look great, I will be | :28:28. | :28:40. | |
honest. If anybody wants some, obviously it has made in it. I have | :28:40. | :28:49. | |
the best excuse. 288 calories per slice. 2880 calories in the whole | :28:49. | :28:57. | |
pizza. Pretty hefty. That looks relatively normal. It has got a | :28:57. | :29:05. | |
Frankfurt in the crust. I worry about how the pizza company came up | :29:06. | :29:11. | |
with that. I think I know why you saying that! We are pre-watershed! | :29:11. | :29:19. | |
That is my worry. I want the reaction on this one, ready? Kebab | :29:20. | :29:32. | |
pizza! Thank you everyone. Good luck tonight. | :29:32. | :29:35. |