28/02/2012 The One Show

Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker and Alex Jones.

Tonight's guest found his Dorothy. He also found his Nancy, his Joseph

and his Maria. Please welcome the man who's now searching for Jesus.

It's Andrew Lloyd Webber. APPLAUSE

Good to see you. Nice to see you. The latest project

is searching for Jesus Christ Superstar, when these shows are on,

your Catchphrase is usually "You can be Nancy or Maria." But it

could be inappropriate to say "You could be Jesus. It could be. The

twist for this one is that it's not for the theatre, it's for a rock

arena tour. We're looking for somebody who can be a great rock

tenor with fantastic charisma of course. It's a slightly different

show, in many ways. What I really want is for it to be completely

live on television. I think it would be fantastic to do away with

pre-recorded tracks. In my real dream is to have a fantastic rock

band on the show, which would be great. Indeed. They have to learn

so many songs. With these reality shows what people don't realise, is

that everybody has to know so much, because, and we're sort of really

going to go for it and make them really perform. You've said the

public always pick the right person. They have done so far. It's pretty

extraordinary. Of the shows, four of the girls are starring in the

West End at the moment in shows, three of them I have nothing to do

with, one, of course, is the lead in, well well, Les Mis movie. It's

extraordinary. There's so much going on at the moment. You don't

know what on earth you're talking about. One of the things we are

going to discuss is Love Never Dies, which we will go onto in a little

while. First when you hear the term "whiplash" what does it mean to you,

a serious neck injury or compensation?

Have you had a road accident that wasn't your fault? You could be

eligible for compensation. 1500 people every day put in

compensation claims for whiplash. 1500 people a day?! What that does

is add approximately �90 onto your and my insurance premiums every

year. They've dubbed the UK the whiplash capital of Europe.

Whiplash is a term to describe a neck injury caused by a sudden

movement of the head where the ten dons and ligaments are damaged. In

severe case it's can cause chronic pain and persistent headaches.

Injury claims for whiplash are up by a third in the last three years,

insurers say the average payout for a personal injury claim is �4,500.

But accident rates are falling overall and experts agree something

is wrong. Accident rates are going down. Seats are getting much better.

It's not engineering. It's not road use. There's something wrong with

the system. According it a recent survey, doctors have seen a sharp

rise in patients attempting to make fraudulent claims for car accident

injuries. In the world of whiplash, it's not just the dumbies that

aren't real, but there are rumblings, the tide's turning. Lee

Robinson had a claim for whiplash brought against him, after he

reversed into a car at a set of traffic lights. As I reversed

backwards I slightly hit a taxi behind me. It was like a nudge, a

kiss on the bumper. Got out, we exchanged details and then early

2011, I got a letter from a solicitor saying the guy had put a

claim in for �900 car damages, personal injury and was suing us

for whiplash. What they didn't know was that Lee is a bit of an expert

on the subject. Morning. We'll sit you up and go through the usual. My

job as a physiotherapist, I treat whiplash every day of my life. None

of his symptoms added up to what I think would have resulted from the

impact. In his practice Lee sees people suffering serious whiplash.

It caused me to have time off work. It's more the pain, the not

sleeping, the turning over in bed and the headaches, that type of

thing, impacts your daily life rather than just your job.

Unusually for whiplash claims, Lee's case went to court and he won.

Lee believe it's will pave the way for others to challenge these cases.

And there are further plans to prevent fraudulent claims in the UK.

In some other countries, if you're travelling at less than 10

kilometres an hour, your claim for whiplash compensation doesn't even

get looked at. But in the UK, it's a slightly different story. You

could put a claim in for that. Experts disagree about whether

whiplash injuries can be sustained at low speeds. The insurance

industry are seeking change. want to look at some of the things

they use in Europe, like Austria and Germany, where you have a

minimum speed at which a whiplash claim can be made. I think what

we're seeing is a system that makes it too easy for people to claim for

whiplash. The Government is so concerned about rising car

insurance premiums, they've met with industry representatives,

discussing whiplash at length. Preferred options on how to cut the

number of fraudulent claims will be presentsed to the Transport

Secretary in the spring. If the measures yield results, the

industry and the Government say any savings will be passed onto the

consumer, resulting in lower car insurance premiums for all of us.

So, is this the end of whacking in a great big claim for every tiny

bump? Could this be the whiplash backlash?

Andrew, your eyes rolled when we went into that film. You know about

this. In my profession, you know what the no win, no fee culture has

led to in America. I was mildly appalled when it was introduced

here. It is so open to abuse. To see lawyers advertising, saying if

you have had a minor accident at work or something, it gets crazy.

Obviously, the idea of legal aid for people who need it is complete

lay different. It's a very important thing. The whole no win,

no fee situation is out of hand. is. Going onto your DVD, Love Never

Dies is out never month. This is based ten years after Phantom of

the op ra. The story carries on, though it's very self-contained.

Could you give us a synopsis of the story. The whole thing is a

curiosity to be honest. I don't think it's been done before. This

is the Australian production, not the London production of Love Never

Dies, which quite frankly, the Australians trounced me and my

London production. They did a superb one, completely on their own.

People said look, it's so extraordinary and mile as way, it

should be filmed. That's exactly what happened to it. It's very,

very intriguing. It is Set ten years later. The Australians kind

of got it. In London, we didn't quite get it. I don't know why or

how. It's a funny thing with musicals. Just one little thing

goes off the rails and the whole thing is derailed, no matter how

good it is. These guyles got it right. It lasted what, 18 months in

the West End? It was a huge disappointment. But I think

probably the whole thing should have been postponed. But then the

Australians came in, completely fresh eyes and ears and I think

they got it right. They did nail it. MUSIC

APPLAUSE And it's still going strong that

production. That was in Mel burn, now it's in Sydney. Yes,

intriguingly for me, it's been shown tonight and it's the first

time with a musical that's a new one, in 550 cinemas tonight in

America. I am intrigued to see what happens. If it works, even if

people don't like my show, what I'm intrigued about, this skill set the

people who filmed this have done, I don't think it existed three years

ago. It has come out of the live asylum ul casts of the opera and --

symalcasts out of the opera. It's amazing. I have never seen it

before. I'm very excited because I think it means a lot of

performances that we would have loved to have seen, or would love

to keep now, coming up, will be filmed in this way. As we spoke

about earlier, you're taking Jesus Christ Superstar to the O2, to a

big arena. And big arenas around the country. How are the logistics

different. It's a much bigger space? Will you lose the intimacy

from the theatre? Obviously you do. Clearly it's not the same

experience at all. But it's been conceived as a rock concert through

and through. Therefore, it's on a very big scale. It will use video

screens greatly. I want it to look very rough. I'd like to, I'd like

it to have something of the news reels that we're seeing from the

Middle East right now, something about that and give it quite a

contemporary edge. You're not going for huge rock stars, you're doing a

talent search, the classic way. We're looking for somebody to play

the role of Jesus. I'm not ruling out anybody at the moment. Quite a

lot of people want to play it. It will go on from Britain and it will

obviously play Europe, Australia, but the real excitement will be

when it goes to America, because in America, the show's thought of as a

rock album. It's not really thought of like we think of it here as a

musical. There they think of it as the rock album it was. Have you got

American rock stars queuing up? There are one or two. I have to

make sure that they can act it as well. Going back to the original

album in 1970, 42 years ago, would you believe, we were blessed with a

fantastic cast who could really do it. The other big character in that

musical is Mary Magdalene. Do you have an idea who might play that

character? I have some thoughts. Mary is an easy role relatively to

cast. She only has three songs. Two of them happen to be the big hit

ones. But the role of Judas is a huge one. That's a big, both are

big rock scenes. It will be interesting to see who the cast are

finally. Love Never Dies is out on Monday, March 12. Last week a

doctor from London became possibly the oldest expert to give evidence

in court. That doctor was William Frankland, still working at the

grand old age of 99. ARCHIVE: Do you suffer from hay

fever or asthma? These are allergies. We may think of

allergies sz a modern day phenomenon, but doctors have been

trying for decades to discover the various causes. In 1912 a pioneer

was born, a man who would dedicate his life to treating allergies of

all kinds. He worked here at St Mary's. William Frankland, now aged

99, has been leading the charge since his early days at St Mary's

Hospital London, work ago longside Sir Alexander Flemming, the man who

discovered penicillin. Amazingly William Frankland is still

practising. He could just be the greatest Briton that you have never

heard of. You were the man who developed the famous pollen count.

How did that happen? We had this special hay fever clinic, where

patients came who only had seasonal hay fever. I had one particularly

annoying patient, who said I know the cause of my hay fever is due to

roses. I said to her, "Roses do not put pollen in the air." From that

moment onwards, I decided I had to teach people who was in the air.

Nowadays if you look at the forecast you have the pollen count

in. I'm sure hay fever sufferers don't need me to tell them, there

are high levels at the moment. fought in the Second World War.

started. I thought I would be in the right place at the right time.

You ended up being imprisoned by the Japanese. Yes at Singapore.

long were you in prison for? Three- and-a-half years. Did you continue

to practice medicine? Very much so. I knew personally the name of every

man in that camp. You were so close, you did know them personally. I'm

lucky I survived. Lots of my friends didn't survive. I always

count my blessings. He's had a remarkable influence on the whole

discipline, not just in this country, but worldwide. Bill has

devoted over 70 years to medicine and even put his life on the line

for the sake of allergy research. When you have a very severe

reaction you have a feeling of impending doom, in other words you

think you're going to die. I wanted to know what would happen to me if

an insect bit me that I'd never met before. The first bite cause nod

trouble. The next a slight bump, 48 hours later. The eighth bite I

noticed that the ceiling had gone black. My blood pressure had

disappeared. But I found that I hadn't got a pulse. I did the

experiment on myself. I couldn't do it on a patient, because

potentially it was dangerous. The sister of the ward saw me and said

"Oh, I know you've done silly experiments on yourself. I'll give

you adrenaline." Within a minute I decided I was dough live and not

die. Not afraid to take risks, this remarkable doctor has helped

improve the lives of millions of allergy sufferers. One of the

amazing things is that he really predicted that the range of

substances and things that people would be allergic to would increase,

particularly drug allergy. worked with Alexander Flemming,

what was that like? He was a marvellous man. We got on extremely

well together. You did have a disagreement over a key publication

though, it was about how if more people were prescribed penicillin

there would be more allergic reactions to the drug. He wrote a

famous book on penicillin. I was made to write a chapter in his book.

He got out his pen and crossed out my last sentence and he said "The

more recent penicillin preparations rarely cause local or general

reactions." That's what's in the book. With hindsight who was right?

He has always inspired me, and he has taught those who have taught me.

He was a father figure, he has probably now become a grandfather

figure. I may retire when I am 100, but even then, I'm not sure. What

an incredible career, as we saw in the film, but one thing they did

not mention is that you once treated Saddam Hussein, didn't you?

You were flown over because of your expertise in elegies? Yes, I was

sent out in that capacity, but he was not allergic according to that

definition. I treated him correctly, and therefore he is the most

grateful patient I have ever had. Can you tell us what was wrong with

him? If he was not sleeping or praying, he was smoking. He smoked

and smoked, and that was his real trouble. We were allies with Saddam

Hussein then - do you regret treating him now? If you're a

doctor, it does not matter who the person is, he's a patient. He was a

patient and I wanted to help him. We heard in the film, lots of

people are now calling you the grandfather figure of Medicine, so

what do you think of the youngsters who are coming through, taking on

your work? Well, I think so many of the young people have not been

taught enough about allergy, which is becoming more common. Something

like seasonal hayfever, we do not know why allergy is becoming more

common, but it is. My worry is that although this country does very

good research, a lot of the GPs and other people know so little about

how to diagnose it and treat it. Well, you had better not retire,

then. And Bill is 100 years old on 19th March.

APPLAUSE Don't go testing any treatments between now and your

birthday, that's what I say. It is fair to say that spring has

definitely sprung. Here's the evidence, some newborn lambs from

our Farm up in Durham. We have got six already, and triplets are due

tonight. There is an expectant mother, waiting patiently. It may

be a busy time on your farm, but it is also a busy time under water, as

Miranda Krestovnikoff has been finding out. The fight for survival

in the sea is a tough one, with the vast majority of offspring never

reaching maturity. To counter this, some fish spawn huge numbers of

eggs. But others take a very different approach. Many sharks,

rays and skates do not lay eggs, but instead, these little egg cases.

By doing so, they get a bit of a head start in life. To find out

exactly how, I have come to this marine aquarium on the shore of the

Moray Firth in Scotland, which exhibits only see life found in

British waters. This doctor is a shark and res scientist from

Aberdeen University. By producing these egg cases, they get a lot

more protection, they can go into shallow waters, and hopefully be

more successful. So they tend to invest more energy in a smaller

number of offspring? Absolutely. But to boost their chances even

more, the aquarium collects egg cases laid by sharks and rays and

transfers them to a dedicated nursery, in a captive breeding

programme. The programme covers two species are, the Thorn backed rays

and the lesser spotted dogfish. This man is the aquarium's displays

officer. How long does it take for them to emerge? The average for the

dogfish is about nine months. these fairly close to hatching, the

ones at the top? Yes, fingers crossed, we might even see them

hatching today. Have a look at this one, you can see how there's a slip

at the top, it has already been forcing a bit to try and get out.

Look at that! How sweet. Look at him. The babies are only 10

centimetres long when they hatch, but that is giant, compared to most

fish, which start life as larvae. They will spend a year in the

nursery, to get the best possible start in life. Time to go fishing.

Any of these, we will go for the near one. What a beautiful, a tiny

baby shark. Lovely! To make sure they release the release site in

top condition, the dog fish are put in a oxygenated sea water, and put

in insulated boxes before being driven to a suitable stretch of

shoreline. But the one thing I find slightly puzzling is why relatively

common and widespread species need to be released into the wild.

the case of the lesser spotted dogfish, they are getting caught up

a lot. They can do well if they are thrown back in time, but with

different laws coming in, it might impinge on the species numbers.

we are trying to get ahead of ourselves a bit black absolutely,

help the species before it becomes a bit too late. Chris has given the

dogfish time to acclimatise before releasing them. We have even seen a

female dog fish in this area coming in to lay her eggs. Fantastic,

look! He is now a wild dog fish. Wow! Look! That's so wonderful.

is always great to see, look at him. Just swimming off. It is a big

ocean for a small fish. Some sharks and rays beat the opposition in the

wild by using their energy to make these extraordinary underwater

incubators, instead of laying millions of eggs. And hopefully,

some of these guys will start laying egg cases all their own. Now,

our Sport Relief challenge, The One Show 1000, is upon us, and we need

you to get involved. The idea is to run a relay of 1001 show viewers,

each running one mile. It will stretch from the Isle of Mull to

the Royal Mall in London. We need people all along the route. Today,

we are focusing on one of the first sections, from Scotland over to

Northern Ireland. Mull is already full, so no applications there,

full, so no applications there, please. But we do need runners in

the following regions... You can apply on the Sport Relief website,

it is for a brilliant course. Some of the Sport Relief project's work

with homeless people, but homelessness has not always been

dealt with so sensitively, as Gyles dealt with so sensitively, as Gyles

Brandreth discovered. The British Pathe news archive provides a

precious window into the past. In times gone by, life, it could be

said, was somewhat simpler than it is today. In the 1940s, for none

more so than at the man without a care in the world, the Trump.

NEWSREEL: His worldly possessions can be tied in an old handkerchief,

but the birds still greet him in the morning. He has nothing, and

yet everything. According to Pathe, happiness, and the occasional

handout from a sympathetic housewife, was all the homeless

needed to survive. The tramp would travel from door-to-door, leaving

behind his ingenious messages. NEWSREEL: This sign, for instance,

means, no go. This one means, too many callers. And finally,

dangerous, don't touch it with a barge pole! That's how the Knights

of the road conduct their correspondence. So, was this

betrayal from British Pathe a true representation, or was there a

larger problem which Pathe was ignoring? The truth is that

homelessness was on the rise in Britain, following both the Great

Depression and the Second World War. By the 1960s, Pathe was opening its

allies to the fact that numbers had increased dramatically, and the

nature of homelessness itself had changed. Alcohol abuse and drug

abuse were escalating, and sympathy from the public was falling.

cannot sustain or absorb this number. As the problem escalated,

in the early 1970s, Pathe began to paint a different, and arguably

more honest picture. This is a jungle. But it was that same decade

that saw the opening of the Charing Cross shelter.

NEWSREEL: This morning, the first move was made towards what

everybody hopes will be a better life for the homeless of London.

Charles Fraser, now the head of the charity, first began working there

more than 30 years ago. What would he make of Pathe's early attitude?

His kingdom is the highway, his treasures, the air, the blossom and

the sunshine. What comes across is that it is completed delusional. It

is important to remember that in those days, there was relatively

little help for homeless people. How has homelessness actually

changed since the Second World War? For an awfully long time,

homelessness was linked with migrant labour. In the 1980s, it

came to be seeing much more as a housing problem. What we see now,

increasingly, is that homelessness is a health problem, particularly

around low-level mental health. Pathe may have woken up to the

problem, and the numbers were at their worst, but today,

homelessness has far from disappeared. Recent figures suggest

that on any one night, 2,100 people were sleeping rough in England last

year. Experts believe the true number to be much higher. I was

suffering with mental problems, I was drinking too much, and the

council came and took my house. you actually slept on the streets?

Yes, make no mistake, it is no way to exist. I had had houses and cars

and nice jobs, and I was terrified, that was my lowest point. What do

you say to people who think it is never going to be them? I spend a

hours every day with people who think it will never happen to them,

but beware, it is easier than you think. It was shot alike Charing

Cross which saved Alan from a life on the streets. Today, he works for

homeless charity, helping others. Despite their initial ignorance,

Pathe were there to report on a world waking up to the problem of

homelessness. But even today, it is more of a problem than Pathe ever

knew. Gyles Brandreth cannot help himself, diving into the Pathe

archives. On Chris Evans's' Breakfast Show on Friday, you

confirmed that you and Gary Barlow would be collaborating on a song

for the Diamond Jubilee - do you know who will sing that song yet?

We do not know yet, Gary Barlow will be going around the

Commonwealth, searching for artists who could be involved in it. We