28/02/2017 The One Show

Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker.

It's pancake day, so if you're tucking in

at home right now, we hope you're really enjoying them.

Sadly, tonight's guest is still recovering

That just reminds me, as it is Shrove Tuesday, I have made you

these pancakes from all my leftovers. Now, these ones are lard

and fish paste. And these are the plain ones. With just a hint of

liver. APPLAUSE

Happy days! Mrs Cropley's strange concoctions

were brilliantly funny, but did they really have

fish paste or liver in? No, I think most things that were

called liver were mainly Nutella or chocolate spread or something. We

like to keep it real on the One Show! We have got two plates of

pancakes, one is very beautiful, lemon and sugar, it is pancake

roulette. Because B is liver pate. It is definitely not chocolate

paste. And I have to tell from this distance? Which plate would you go

for? I am going for A. Are you? Can I have a little smell of A?! That is

a good idea! A was a good idea, lovely! I will try that one. It is

good! APPLAUSE

You did good! Just for the proof, go on. Don't

worry! Now, if you have risked a quick phone call behind the wheel

recently, you are one in nearly a third of drivers who have been

admitted to using their mobile phone while driving. But with harsher

penalties on the way, will they be doing it tomorrow?

You would think, after 14 years of a ban on using your mobile at the

wheel, people would have got the message. Apparently not. I am

talking about it now because there is about to be a change in the law.

From March, if drivers are caught using their mobile phone, instead of

a ?100 fine and three penalty points, it is going to be double,

200 points and six points. Ouch! But is that really going to make a

difference? To find out, I'm spending the morning with Zoe

Billings, a traffic officer from North Yorkshire Police. We are going

down to York, we are in a plane vehicle, so we will be looking at

any distracted driving is, mobile phones. Increasingly we get crotch

gazers, they think, just because they are looking down, that we

cannot tell. They know it is wrong, they are trying to hide it. Who are

the biggest culprits? Generally delivery drivers. For the price of a

hands-free kit, that is what I say. Expecting a busy road in York, I am

surprised to find we stop on an industrial estate. There tends to be

high mobile phone use around here, people are looking for places,

distracted, it is easy for us to spot them, it commands your full

attention. I would normally feel safe driving here, but I won't in

future! And it is not just me who would not expected. She soon spot a

driver on his phone who says he is struggling with his Bluetooth. It is

a brand-new van, it takes longer, and it is harder, and I don't know

how to get the number through on the new system. So obviously I am going

to have to learn a lot better now. And not long after, more people

driving distracted. This guy has been called over because he had a

map in his hand while driving. As to whether he gets points, he is in the

hands of Zoe. You realise what you were doing was wrong. I have been

done before. Have you done it since? I have done it since, to be honest.

Louw points? Will this have any effect on you using your phone? I

guess so. It is my own fault, I have got a hands-free kit, I didn't use

it. You have got a hazard, you could have said, ring Dave. There has to

be something that will make you stop doing it. I haven't got a bird

anymore, so she won't be ringing me five times a day! It is modern

society, hustle and bustle, making money. What about going to prison? I

guess so, yeah. If there was a custodial sentence? I guess so. So

you have caught three people on a phone, one using a map, I am quite

shocked. It is an awful lot of people in a small area. Have we

earned a cup of tea yet?! While Zoe takes a break, I am asking more

people what they think it will take to stamp it out altogether, and I

have got four options, finds with points, jail or a ban. If you have

got a family and you have to get to work and you lose your license... I

think it would be enough as long as it is enforced, six points, I know

it is serious, but it seems slightly excessive. I tell you what, you are

the first one to choose jail. They could kill me, they could cause an

accident. I don't want to lose my life. I think jail is a bit much, we

have already got enough people in jail. An immediate ban would stop

people. If my daughter was killed because somebody had been on their

phone, I would be absolutely furious about it. It has to be, doesn't it?

All the people here think the ultimate deterrent to stop people

using their phone is this, a much larger fine and a ban.

Well, Anita is here to explain more about the change in the law, but do

you think ?200 and six points is enough? We saw people in the film

were saying go to jail. It is hard, isn't it? So much damage could

happen. Definitely, I think it is right to increase the penalty,

definitely, and I probably will get caught now, won't I? Not if you

don't touch your phone! But you can talk. This is the way it works, the

rule of thumb, it is all changing tomorrow, this new law is coming in,

do not physically have your phone in your hand. If you want to use it as

a sat nav, but the codes in, but the postcode in before you set off, put

it on the right place, but the minute you touch your phone, you are

in the danger zone. It is terrible if you are a first-time driver. It

is really going to affect the newly qualified, two years. If you get

caught in those two years, you will get a ?200 fine, you will get the

six points, but you will get your license automatically revoked, then

you have to to get the provisional and said the test again, and you

will still have the six points once you have done the test again. So it

is an absolute disaster, so bottom line, and I think it is because, you

know, relatively speaking, phones are a new technology, and we are

learning. And the amount of accidents caused, over 2000 in the

last few years, and in 2015, there were 22 deaths. Don't touch your

phone, we need to learn to live without our phones in the car.

Unless, of course, you have an integrated system. OK, the irony is

that people was taking photos of people doing it to try and catch

them! It is getting more confusing! Don't confuse it and drive your car

hands-free? I tried that, it doesn't work! Very good point! Can you

believe it was 23 years ago that the Reverend Geraldine Granger arrived

in Dibley, much to the surprise of the locals. She was one of the first

women because, but how much have things changed for female clergy

since then? According to Gogglebox's reverend Kate Bottley, quite a lot.

# This is a man's world... # Authority is associated with males.

For centuries, the hierarchy of the Anglican Church was totally male

dominated. It wasn't until 1992 and after 70 years of campaigning that

women like me at last were allowed to become priests. And just two

years ago, we finally got our first female bishop, although not without

opposition. Is it your will and she should be ordained? It is! No, not

in the Bible, with respect, your Grace, I asked to speak on this

absolute impediment, please. The objection was overruled, and history

was made. I ask one more time, is it your will that she should be

consecrated? Yes! With women making an impact, things

are changing. I've come to Oxford's Trinity College to meet reverend

Emma Percy. Man has historically tended to perpetuate the idea of God

as being male. Those in power made Daly in their own image, almighty,

King, Lord and father, and women need to find a way of reconnecting

more fully to the idea that female and male are made in the image of

God. So see what it feels like to parade to God as mother and address

God as she. What is going on here is bold, Emma is repairing to God as

female, a mother figure. Sublet us prey. God, our mother, creator of

all that is, whose compassion is boundless...

I loved your sermon, it was pretty bad a cost of, why are you calling

God she? -- it was pretty radical stuff. Because we have used these

male images, it is easy for people to think that God really is a bloke,

and that has made it harder for women to connect to God. The

suggestion that men are more like God. These are the pictures of God

that we know, I realise how silly it is to suggest that we know what he

looks like, but an old man on a cloud? I think it has meant that

there is a certain entitlement to being in authority, that has often

been assumed by men. Half the human race experience life in a woman's

body, and that they are made in the image of God. How has that gone

down? Mixed! Mixed. People want to tell you that you are wicked. Or

silly. It is not only on behalf of the staff that the gender bias has

been challenged. Good feminists that we are, we are going to look at some

clothes! -- on the heavy stuff. This is one of the first clothing ranges

specifically designed for female clergy.

# This is ladies' night, oh what a night... #

I was ordained three years ago, and I was disappointed with what was on

offer at the time, and I was quickly disappointed, they didn't fit, they

looked uncomfortable, but there was something deeper than that.

I felt that we weren't really being embraced, because there was nothing

out there except badly adapted menswear, which made me feel as if I

was a man in drag and I was being subdued.

We thought, why don't we try to make something for women? It is a supple

challenge to the male domination in the ministry. -- supple. The new

look is going down a storm. It is a liberating experience. This isn't

just about clothes, it's about celebrating ourselves as women in

the Church. Watching this, it's 1 million miles away from the old male

dominated institution that the Church of England once was. I reckon

God would approve all stop wouldn't she?

Got some lovely styles there! I have never seen so many female

beggars in one place, is it a prayer of vicars? -- vicars. Do you

remember your first car sick? I had to have it fitted in quite a Ben

Reynolds lies -- in quite a Benn Robinson place in Westminster. I was

getting it for a TV show, but it had to be correct, and it was quite an

embarrassing experience, because the men that were working there hadn't

fitted women. Although a cassock is supposed to de-sex you, women have

got lumps where men do not have, so you have to measure, and the men

were going bright red! It was a bit embarrassing for them.

Did you get a sense of how inspiring you would be? For the women in the

film, you were an inspiration. Maybe. Richard Curtis wrote the

show, and it was his decision to write a female priest like that, and

to normalise it. And we did have some angry people, just as there

were angry people when Libby was consecrated and ordained as a

bishop. People objected. They did object back then, even to the

sitcom. They knew the sitcom might be quite powerful in normalising the

situation. But Joy Wallace, or Joy Carroll, she wasn't married then,

there she is. She is wonderful. She was the person I did my research

around. She was the person most like the character I wanted to play. I

asked her, how do you wear the dog collar and when? I agree with the

women in the film, it is impossible to find something a bit feminine.

Look, yeah... I rest my case. We will leave it there, that was over

20 years ago. We will move onto your most recent project. You have been

meeting some of the most talented youngsters in the world. Let's see

you having a lesson from young Shaolin monk.

Just spin it. Just, you know, spin it. APPLAUSE

You've got it. Definitely don't try that at home. That caught me on the

knuckles and it really hurt. He was amazing. He came out, and as he

approached me, he had his swords, I don't know what they call them, he

is a Shaolin Warrior, producing a sword from his back, putting it very

close to my nose. Really surprisingly, unbelievably talented

young guy. Interestingly, this is the first time you meet the children

when they come into the studio setting on the sofa. That must be an

amazing experience for you. You don't know what you will get, did

they know who you were? We know you as an incredible comedian, but how

was it for the kids? They know me as a smelly, middle aged woman!

The kids on the show are between four and 13, and kids don't really

know who I am. I did a bit orbit in Harry Potter, they know that. The

kids are far too young to know me. But we decided not to meet them

before they came on to do their special talent, because kids can't

fake meeting you and meeting you again, and I wanted to see them for

the first time. It seemed to work, because we made friends on the sofa.

How is this working? Is it a demonstration of skill and are they

competing? How does it work? It is no competition, no judgment or

prizes, nothing like that. We didn't want to reject any kids or make them

feel anything other than utterly relaxed, showing us what ever they

can do, whatever their passion, their skill or talent is, the

spotlight is entirely on them in a positive way. They come on and tell

me what they have done, come additions they have won, how they

have learned to do what ever it is, kids from four years old, a chap is

a shepherd, he came on and showed me his sheep. That's his being. Amazing

kids, those boring dancing kids, Kerry and Joshua, kids with amazing

talents. Some of these kids are from viral Internet things, and

sensations. Of course. Some of them have had 16 million hits. We had a

young boy from the Philippines, his thing was cool, he did a dance by

the pool, and everyone saw that. It is so refreshing as well. It is very

innocent, light-hearted, positive, perfect for this time in our lives,

wouldn't you say, in our crazy, upside-down world, it is something

positive. Everybody can see it for themselves, 8pm on ITV, Little Big

Shots. Now, as we know,

talented children have to grow up. And with us tonight are

some adults who performed on TV Before that, Nitin Ganatra has

the amazing story of how 100 children from Liverpool found

themselves sharing screen space Of the biggest grossing films in

Britain in 1958 was Being Of The Sixth Happiness. In 1914, Ingrid

Bergman rescued 100 Chinese orphans by tracking them to safety across

war-torn China. It was filmed right here on these mountains, but we are

not in China. It's a place with dramatic, snowcapped peaks, wild

mountain rivers and acres of dense woodland. Snowdonia in North Wales.

This man that grew up in London played in good Bergman's adopted son

when he was six. Look at you. Yeah! You haven't changed a bit. You have

the same smile. Everyone was friendly, Ingrid was very warm. It

felt like she was my adoptive mother. The scene with Ingrid in the

paddy fields. I remember being told to run along a wall, point, the

planes coming in, then run down. The planes would fire and I was really

terrified. But why was all of this happening in Wales? In fact, the

film was supposed to be shot in Taiwan on the book producers fell

out with the government there. They wondered if they could fool VI by

building a Chinese set in a wild, unspoiled mountain spot elsewhere.

-- fool the eye. Nearby Liverpool was visited by producers, and

brought the children to Wales by the bus-load. Today, some of them are

back to meet us. My mum is so pleased. My sister! This was one of

the babies recruited to play another one of Ingrid Bergman's adopted

children. I was quite young. I don't have any recollection of what went

on, but my elder brother Roy does. Throughout filming, he was shown to

me, and taken away, and I would cry afterwards. That is how I was made

to cry. I see! Peter, you will 14, you must have vivid memories. What

other memories do you have of the time? There were scenes where we

walked for miles. They made us do it 20-30 times, a couple of mile walks,

and we were really tired. When you see us on film as knackered, so to

speak, we were tired. I claim to fame is that I am the only person to

have appeared naked with Ingrid Bergman. There are not many people

that can say that. I don't think anyone else can say that.

One of the film's breakthrough talents was Bert Kwok. His character

led the kids in the dramatic crossing over the yellow River. The

scene was shot here. For an actor like Bert Kwok, this was one of the

films that launched him. It must have been a coup. Most Asian

characters in those days were played by white people. He actually was the

forerunner, so to speak, of bringing Chinese out. Chinese kids are

playing a Chinese part. It was just so totally new. To celebrate the

film's significance, locals are helping stage a special screening

for the cast. But how has the film aged after nearly 60 years?

You know what the coldest sound in the world is. It's teeth chattering.

CHEERING It's given me a lifelong affection

for Wales. If I watched it on my own, I would be blubbing away. I am

a bit of an old romantic for it. Lovely story. Great to see them back

together. It's time to meet some of the stars

of past child TV talent shows. Dawn, will you do the honours

and introduce our first guests? Representing Bognor Regis,

please welcome James Carroll, Simon Capes and Gavin Wickham,

also known as the Rockettes! APPLAUSE

Here they are. This is what they look like now.

And here they are performing on Crackerjack back in 1977.

# Lost in the rhythm # It was a jungle... #

Who was on drums? Are you still together as a band? Not as a band.

But as friends. What do you do now? I run a medical laser company. I am

a sound engineer. I used to be a cameraman, but now I am an artist.

You have been a talent judge, would you send them through to the next

round? I would and I would tell them to reformat and tell them to think

about a tour! Simon, wave the Crackerjack! Crackerjack!

Representing the Southampton area, please welcome

And here she is performing as Margaret Thatcher back in 1978.

I sat next to Jim Callaghan fatigue. It was just as I feared it would be.

His rumblings abdominal were truly phenomenal, and everyone thought it

was me. LAUGHTER Kate, you are still in the business,

as a voice-over artist. Do you still do impressions? I do. Give us one.

Hello, it is gorgeous to see you on the one Show. Gorgeous to see you.

What do you think of that, Dawn? You are the other half of me! My people

will call your people, come on, darling, let's do lunch.

Please welcome tap dancer and singer Vivienne McMaster!

Let's see her competing in Crackerjack Young Entertainer

This is my favourite. # Every minute, he leans on my

shoulder. # He's kissing me

# # That's impressive. You are tapping

on point. Look at your legs now. They are OK, I used to put white

spirit on my toes to harden them up. You are still a trickle toes today.

I still am. I performed in musicals, pantomimes, all of that, I teach

kids and also the over 60s. I have a group of performing pensioners.

There they are. I love it. You can rejoin the performers, and let's say

a big thank you to all of our wonderful guests. APPLAUSE

We're looking for stories behind your first dance at your wedding.

They could be funny, unusual or romantic.

That's it for tonight, huge thanks to Dawn.

Looking forward to Little Big Shots tomorrow at 8 o'clock.

Dawn tonight and tomorrow some more brilliant guests -

Samuel L Jackson, with Tom Hiddleston and Brie Larsson.