28/05/2013 The One Show

with Matt Baker and Alex Jones. years ago, tonight's guest decided

he wanted to become a pig farmer and millions watched him on Jimmy's

Farm. Since then, he's rarely been off our screens, tackling

supermarkets or challenging Gwyneth Paltrow to a game of Chubby Bunny.

Every time you put one in your mouth you have to say chubby bunny. She's

done it! Please, welcome, Jimmy Doherty. It's such a weird voice.

was. What was the outcome? I thought I was leading. But that woman can

put them away, I can tell you. she? Yes. Any idea how many? I did

about seven and I think she did around 12, something like that. She

- because she is really love and slim in the fashingS but she was

tucking them away, bang, bang, bang. It was pretty grim coming out back

out again to count them. Let's not talk about them. Let's talk about

the farm. How are things? All very good. We have lots of pigs on the

farm. The Essex pig - there's one of them there - a big love for me,

because being from Essex I love the breed of pig. What happened is there

are two breeds of pig, one is the Wessex and the Essex pig and in 1967

they were brought together, but four bloodlines exist of the pure Essex

so it made sense to me to try to track them down and make the most of

them. Things have gone well then? Yes. We could talk about farming all

night. I don't know, I like talking about Essex pigs. It's my favourite

topic. We have been there for ten years. We have the Essex, but

British saddlebacks and Tamworths. A tropical butterfly house. There's

the farm shop, restaurant and we have a big petting area and I think

that's really important for children to get among it. Rabbit hill, you

have? No, guinea pig village.Sorry. Get it right. The thing about the

tropical butterfly house is kids come in and see them from all around

the world, but when they leave they understand about the importance of

insects to farming and how important it is to protect them. We'll talk

about it later on. First, we are going to kick off with a story of

eight children, one dedicated dad and a handbook written by a

marvellous mum. It's time to meet the Milnthorpes. Comen, bedtime.

-- comen, bedtime. Ian has come to see the family. Things always

haven't run as smoothly in the house. Ian met his wife Angie in

1976 in their home village in Yorkshire. We got married in 1985.

She always said that after we get married we wanted to start a big

family. We run our family traditional like our parents did. I

went to work, working long hour underground and she stayed at home

and looked after the children. 2007, aged just 46, Angie fell

terminally ill with cancer. thought about it straightaway and

then she looked at me and I could see the fear in her eyes, but no

tiers and she put her arms around me. From there on, Angie had just

one mission - to make sure Ian and their children would cope when she

was gone. One morning she shouted me in the kitchen. She wanted me to

look. Just watch how I do this. For something like me, doing hair is

like working with sawdust. I looked at her. She said, "One day you'll

have to learn to do that yourself." I realised what she was talking

about, that when she dies I would have to do it. She started showing

me how to make the special meals that the kids loved and how to bake.

She didn't want me forgetting the kids' birthdays. She pulled out a

note book and wrote them all down and when I looked down, she had

wrote down all the list. She wanted me - things she didn't show me, but

things I wanted to know. Check their hair regular while they're at school

for knits. Don't leave iron too hot for shirts because I burnt one last

year. Number seven, don't leave in bath alone. It's almost three years

since Angie passed away and the family are still learning to cope

without her. When I started doing this I were really finding it a

struggle. I was burning toast and cornflakes were soggy. I've burnt

that one. The children like to help too. Today, the family are

remembering Angie at a bench and plaque that's been put up in her

memory at her favourite place, this bay. See if you can pick it out. No,

that is your nana's. It's that one. Angie's list has helped me a lot,

mentally and physically. Sometimes I've just felt like breaking down

and crying when things have got really hard and I've sat down and

stopped feeling sorry for myself and I think about her in last six

months, how she was determined to make sure I could look after them

kids. What was she like, your mam? Always laughing. Always laughing. A

big, massive laugh. It does make me feel proud that I'm looking after

the kids and I can see them enjoying themselves and getting back on with

their lives and that's what Angie would have wanted. Ian's got a book

out and it's called Mum's Way. It's out now and it might be a nice

present for Father's Day which is 16th June. Sorry. We'll talk about

the second series of Food Unwrapped, which explains the food -- which

explains why we buy the food we do. You phone the customer services and

you phone them and ask whether you can eat mouldy bread. Is it OK to

pick that off and eat the bread? don't think so. I don't know. I

would advise not to consume it though. My kid sister does the same

as you. Cuts it off. And toast it. Is that the same mould that you'll

find in sill tonne? What type of mould? Things that go with cheese as

well. A bit of cheddar. Where does the enquiries lead from there,

because I guess they didn't know. It's an interesting way to start the

programme, because on the back of packets is the helpline and you

think if you ring up what will they say. They've got a very good way of

not necessarily avoiding things, but if you say oh, do you drink, no, I

don't. Do you ate bread, no I don't eat bread. It was to ask simple

questions, is bread OK to eat if it's mouldy? I always used to think

as a student it was fine. No. No. Yeah. Never eat mouldy bread.

eaten mouldy cheese. This got us thinking. We'll throw it out there.

If you've got anything nasty growing in your fridge, put on some rub

rubber gloves, fish it out and send us the pics. You can stay anonymous

if you want to. Just food.We'll try to protect the guilty. What else are

you looking at? There's a whole array of foods across the series. On

the first episode, it is mouldy bread. We look at chicken kievs and

storing apples. How do they store English apples to last almost a

year, but it's fascinating, because the series is not necessarily about

the air-dried foods, but the everyday food and how they're

produced and the little tricks, because everyone wants to know about

mass-produced food and it's not always negative. There are some

fascinating sciences behind them. There was a little thing we were

going to show, but we thought it was too gross to show at this time of

night, about how the mould works it ways through, but it should be a

good watch. It starts on Monday at 8. 30pm on Channel 4. We'll visit

the childhood home of a champion. Nicola Adams, the first woman to

first win Olympic gold. She went to Yorkshire, her first house where she

beamed that famous smile. I'm Nicola Adams and I'm going back to the

street in Leeds where I grew up. Dent Street, Richmond Hill, LS 9. I

was born here and live here until I was ten with my mum, my brother and

little brother used to play a lot in here and justed to jump from one

sofa to the other and play little games and hide and seek and stuff,

so it was really good fun. My love for boxing started in this house. My

dad used to watch a lot of the big fights here, Frank Bruno and Mike

Tyson and we would be bouncing around in front of the TV and told

to sit down. I just absolutely loved it. I never thought for one second

that I was actually going to grow up and be an Olympic champion one day.

I've got a lot of good memories in this house and then a couple of bad

ones as well. My mum and dad got divorce divorced just as we were

moving out, so yeah, but most of the time good memories. The house was

always busy. I would have a lot of uncles and cousins and friends

coming around. I remember the Christmas dinners with the turkey

and my mum used to put the toys that we weren't allowed to play with or

the sweets or anything of interest, up on top of the cupboard up the top

and me and my brother could gets the stools from underneath and he would

hold me so I didn't fall and I would try to grab stuff. She probably

still doesn't know we used to do this. My mum was the softer one and

my dad was the strict one. It walls, "Wait until your dad gets back." Me

and my brother would just sit there. There's only one place in the house

that used to scare me and that was the cellar. It used to look so dark

and scary and all the cob diveBs and the spiders. -- cobwebs and the

spiders. I would get to this point and look around the corner and I was

so afraid to go around that corner I would just go back up and I think I

might go back up now! Wow. This feels strange being back in this

room again. Me and my brother sharing this room, it was OK. I was

in charge, so it was all right. Me and my brother have always been

really close to each other. He was always like my little shadow.

Wherever I went, he went. But I looked after him and he sometimes

looked at me. I can see over the top of this gate now. I never used to be

able to do that when I lived here. The area was quite rough. There was

a lot of cars being stolen and drove up and down. I used to love getting

on my bike and going up to the BMX track. This was the hill where it

would make you or break you. It was almost like an initiation. The first

time I got down there pretty OK. The second time I did it I wobbled and I

come off and bust me lip. That didn't deter me. I still went down

again and again and again. It didn't really matter what was going on

outside in the area. Once I was in the home I had my mum, dad and

brother and everything was OK. Just being able to spend time with my

family and have fun, you can always get through anything. How infectious

is that smile? Even the scary cellar. BMWing away. -- beaming

away. Jimmy, you had a special friend that you still work with and

you are still mates, Jamie Oliver. We have got a superb picture of you

two. Here it is. Oh, yes. That's right. That's around my house. He

always stays over. This one's pretty good. Look at those curtains.How

old were you there in We must have been 16. Look at the beads around

the neck. Lovely. What is the naughtiest thing you've got up to?

We were the annoying kids that were pretty naughty at school, but

somehow got away with it. We would sweet-talk the teacher. One of the

naughtiest things he ever did, his dad has quite a good pub and

restaurant in the village, and Jamie bought the stink bombs and threw

them outside all over the place, but then trod them all the way in

through the pub on a busy Sunday lunch. He got told off. Right, on we

go. It's rare that a medicine becomes a buzz word for a generation

but that is true of pro-Zac. Since it was launched 25 years ago it's

featured in best-selling books to even Blur lyrics. Here some of those

who have predescribed the so-called wonder drug talk about the Fame

Academy it's had on their lives candidly. It's my drug of choice. It

was a real relief to have an answer to something that had really been a

big problem to me. Prozac is a By-word for a fix. It's not the

wonder drug that it's made out to be. Depression feels like being the

bottom of a big, black hole and when I've had it really, really bad,

unable to even get up out of bed, not wanting to do anything, no

interest in anything, but when I'm taking Prozac that all goes away.

I've been on it about 22 years, so I must have been one of the first

people to try the drug. If I don't take it then my husband usually says

kwoshingS "Are you take -- "Are you taking your tablets?" And I say,

"No, I haven't taken them for a little while." He wants me to take

them because he can see a difference. If I'm addicted I'm not

bothered. It definitely, definitely helps me to face the day and live a

far better life. It's incredibly popular. I can't think of a single

GP who's never prodescribed it. It is used for PMT and migrain and

chronic pain and that means the amount we are using has rapidly

increased. The best practice of anyone who presents with symptoms of

depression or anxiety. We could try to persuade them for cowsling or CBT

that works really well and there's no side effects of talkative

therapies. My daughter Caitlin was going through what I can only call

to this day typical teenage angst. She had been to America and found

out there was this drug Prozac and you get it here for free and she

went to the GP and said he was suffering exam frights and boyfriend

problems and arguing with mum and she took it for 63 days. But 63 days

later she took the horse's lunge rope and put it over the beam in the

guest bedroom and hanged herself. She left a note. In the note she

declared that she loved everybody forever but she thought everybody

hated her and we lost her. In the early days after her death I

resorted to anti-depressants for complex reasons. And I found that I

did not feel good and I would sit in front of the television like a

zombie and my partner would say, "It's time for bed." I just did

nothing. I did go off them very get out of the house and meet people

and to resume some sense of normality. I do believe that

medication has a place in treat treating mental health and

particularly depression, from my experience, but it absolutely has to

be in conjunction with other things and for me that was seeing a

therapist. It was about becoming engaged in meaningful activity and

building relationships with people. You need to take time for things to

happen. There's a natural pace in the world that you can't alter.

such a common drug that people ask for it by brand and that's probably

got a lot to do with the branding and marketing. I understand that

some people do have great benefit from the drugs, but what I hope they

know is they are also very power powerful, mind-altering drugs.

wouldn't dream of going off it, because I know that it keeps me on

an even keel. We have had some sad stories on the show. Dr Sarah Jarvis

is here. Taking everything into account, it has been quite a success

story? Anything that was going to offer help to people with depression

was going to be a help. It wasn't the first anti-depressant. There

were lots, but this was the first of a new family of drugs called the

SSRIs and it was the first time that there were drugs that would treat

depression for some, but didn't have so many side effects. The cure was

almost worse than the condition. These days, I rarely predescribe it

-- prescribe it because there are others on the market and we have to

think about money on the NHS, but we have to bear in mind it has changed

the culture and there are always risks. They started off with the

great bang and they were the wonder drug and we started to worry where

they increasing the risk some people of feeling suicidal. People who are

depressed are at risk with that, it goes with the territory. The

manufacturers have asked us to point out that in 1991 an American drugs

administration panel said that there was no credible evidence to link

anti-depressants, including Prozac with suicide suicidal behaviour.

Would you be concerned with someone being on it for 22 years? I don't

think she is dependent on it, but what we need to bear in mind when

doctors talk about addiction they talks about valium and sleeping

tablets, which we hate giving, because we know the more you take

them the more you need to get the same effect and if you don't take

them you crave them. I wouldn't recommend to anybody that they be on

them for routinely, but if your life has been revolutionised by them, on

an individual basis they may need them long term. Thank you. If you

are affected by this and you need more information there are some

links on the website. Now, whilst some of us enjoyed the Bank Holiday

weekend, for others in the west it was rainy old business as usual.

This was the picture of the UK at around 3. 3.15pm. I mean, seriously.

It's liked there's a massive bucket of water over it. The last thing is

we need for some smarty-pants science presenter to go and make

more clouds. Whoops!Clouds - they are all too visible on most days in

Britain. And they come in all shapes and sizes. But why are clouds clouds

and can we make a spectacular one ourselves? All clouds are basically

made when warm air rises and hits cold air. Cooling and condensing

water vapour in the sky on to tiny particles in the atmosphere. Things

like dust, or pollen and that makes water droplets and as they grow,

they eventually become visible and when seen en masse, that's what we

know of as clouds. The amount of water vapour, height, treple tour,

air pressure and movement determines what type of cloud is created. The

puffy white cumulus are made from pockets of rising air, but they

don't always have to appear in the sky. You have heard of a ship in a

bottle, but this is cloud in a bottle. You need the same three

things that you need to make a real one, water vapour, there is some

water in here. Shake it up. We need dust particles for the water to

begin to condense on. There's dust in the air all around, so it's

already in there. The last thing to do is cool the water vapour and for

that, you pump air into the bottle and then release the pressure

quickly. Look at that! Cloud in a bottle. But that's not a small --

but that's on a small scale. I think we can go bigger. Over last year,

one artist has been making clouds indoors. Hovering inside unusual

spaces. They are then photographed. But he's always on the lookout for

the next ideal cloud-making location. He needs cold, damp,

darkness, which is why I've come into the bowels of the earth to this

old, underground prison in the heart of London. The house of detention

has been a prison since the 17th century. And the latest inmate is

Dutch art Bertrand. Why did you want to make the clouds in the first

place? People have projected so many ideas on them for centuries already

and I had this idea of walking in an empty space with nothing around it

and there was a cloud in one location and it would be confronted

with that. To create the effect of his own puffy cloud, he uses a fog

machine that pumps out a cloud of condensed water vapour, but on it's

own that creates a foggy mist. To make a proper cloud he needs to get

more water droplets into the air. What we are doing is spraying lots

of water so that when we turn on the fog machine we'll get a bust of fog

to hit that water. It will make it form a little cloud hopefully, which

will then hang in the air just for a few seconds. It's the idea at least.

He hopes to make the cold room to make the water droplets stick

together to produce a thick cloud, just like it does outside, but as we

are indoors, it will only last for a brief moment. There will have --

they'll have to be quick to photograph it. Here We go. As the

fog hits the droplets in the air an the cloud takes shape, the

photographer is taking as many shots as he can, before it dissipates.

Threw the fog -- through the fog, I think it worked. We made a cloud!

But the proof will be in the picture. It's really good. I'm happy

with that one. It looks like a proper, little cloud. It does, yeah.

Just like in a real cloud, the darker areas are where the water is

most dense. I'm so going to go home and get a cycle pump and a bottle

and make a cloud. His hair looks like a big cloud. You have been

looking at the weather and temperature and how it affects human

behaviour. There is a new show out called Human Swarm and it's about

our collective behaviour and how it changes when the weather changes and

the unique thing about this, we have been studying human behaviour by

looking at the data we leave behind through the wep sites we go on, if

we use Twitter and using all the interesting data we can see how we

behave and it's been remarkable. Talking about leaving data behind or

forgetting to throw it away, we asked you for your mouldy

photographs to see what life dporms you've been cultivating in the

kitchens. You haven't disappointed. One from your fridge, Matt. This is

from Samantha Butler from Dorset and this has put her off eating pasta.

It matches my jumper. This is from Martin in Port Call. An average

grape fruit from Vanesssa. It's a lovely one. That needs to go to the

bin. That's all we have time for. Good luck with Food Unwrapped and