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Piers Morgan. Not pretty, but that Now we can join the news

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You are quite posh. Did you hope it would develop from the phrase,

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fiver, darling? It was one of my first jobs out of drama school. I

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think I was called Carmen. I faxed a note to the producer saying, my

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surname should be Rollers. Talking of Eastenders, we have got some big

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news. Team rickshaw will be riding into Albert Square at the end of

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their 700 mile journey from Larne in Northern Ireland. In fact, the whole

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of Children in Need night will be coming from the home of Eastenders

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on November the 15th, including the One Show. We will be live from the

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Queen Vic. Can you imagine how you will feel at the finish line? As

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well as talking to Amanda tonight, we will be finding out what happened

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to this lard. I set the room on fire. I went upstairs and set the

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beds on fire. There was a person in the house. It was your dad that

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time, was it? Back then he was an 11-year-old arsonist locked up in a

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secure unit. He is here tonight to tell us how he turned his life

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around, with the help of the man who made the original BBC documentary.

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First, the storms overnight cost for macrolides, left over 600,000 homes

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without power and played havoc with travel plans. Our storm Hunter,

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Lucy, spent the day in the West Country. Overnight in Somerset,

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hurricane force winds have been recorded and there's been a

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significant amount of rain. But it's not just here that has taken a

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battering. There's been widespread power cuts, disruption to travel.

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This morning, the Isle of White recorded a wind speed of 99 mph.

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Meanwhile, over 200,000 homes were left without electricity. During

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1987's storm, 15 million trees were blown down. We don't yet know how

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many this storm has claimed, but in storm affected areas there are teams

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working around the clock to clear the debris. Somerset highways agency

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is just one team that has had a long night. Simon White is in charge of

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keeping the roads clear in this area. What is the extent of the

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damage in Somerset? We've had about 75 trees down across the county in

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the space of the last 12 hours. Tell me about the history of this brewer

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fella. You'll a-macro this came down at around 5:30am. It has not rested

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very well, so this is one of our most challenging trees to get down.

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It shows the power of the wind we had last night. 65 of those 75 trees

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are gone and the roads are opened. Once like this which are more

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complex, we've got to bring specialists in an deal with things

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like this. Something this big, once you cut it, give got to get it off

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site, so you've got to have a digger. These guys are not just

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moving the trees from across the highway. There are branches that

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have been dislodged in the storm. They have to get up with a tree with

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a chainsaw right at the top and they have to cut them all off to make

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sure they are safe. It is incredible. As today has shown,

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fallen trees and branches can have fatal consequences. We knew it was

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coming and seemingly we were better prepared than in 1987. But when it

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hits, the St Jude storm was highly localised, creating pockets of

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destruction in certain parts of the country. Where the effects will be

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felt for some time to come. John Hammond is here to talk a bit more

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about this. It was predicted as the biggest storm since 19... Oh, my

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poppy has blown off! The wind is still going! The biggest since 1987.

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Was it what you expected, was it not as strong? Pretty much as we

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expected. The Midlands and Wales got off lightly. But through that zone

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from south-west England, southern England towards the London area,

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East Anglia, we saw gusts that we were expecting. You've got all this

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new technology now that helps you to be a lot more on the button and you

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would have been back in 96 dashed back 1987. Does that mean there will

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be no surprises from now on? Afraid not. The atmosphere is inherently

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chaotic. Despite advances in understanding the atmosphere, we

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occasionally are not going to get it right. But we've gone a quantum leap

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since 1987 to how we are now in terms of the technology, the

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computing power and knowledge of the atmosphere and how we get the

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warnings out as well. We do a lot of liaising with emergency responders

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to get those warnings out early. We had them out at the back end of last

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week. Even though the storm hadn't formed, we were confident it was

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going to. Nailing down exactly where the path of the worst destruction

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was going to be is a more difficult job. It's remarkable when you look

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at what the computers do. Tell us about the sting jet. One of the

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advances in our understanding of the atmosphere is the sting jet, a

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phenomenon. We got the storm forming, the torrential rain. At the

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back-end of the storm we have this sting jet, air rushing down from the

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stratosphere. It spreads out in the form of big gusts. Although the

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coasts normally get hit by strong winds, inland the sting really

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ploughs a path across southern England, including your patch at

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home, and the London area and into East Anglia. Those sorts of speeds,

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with trees fully laden with leaves, bound to cause problems. Amanda, you

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were saying your friend's trampoline was there but now it's gone. Yes,

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she woke up and it was gone. Someone has either nixed it for Christmas or

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it has flown somewhere and done probably horrible damage. This storm

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has whistled across the North Sea, gone through Scandinavia, it's

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moving that fast. The gusts in Scandinavia were worse than here.

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You were in a hotel last night right near to the weather studios so you

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could get to work. We were. We had to be there for when it hit this

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morning. But I've got to go home tonight. I don't know what the

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damage will be like. You've got no electricity, have you? No, the power

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is out at home. Fittingly, Mary Poppins said that she would stay

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with the Banks family until the wind changed. A new story starring Emma

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Thompson tells the story of the woman who created the world's host

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famous nanny. # A spoonful of sugar helps the

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medicine go down. Walt Disney's Mary Poppins has

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charmed audiences for decades. Julie Andrews plays the most famous nanny

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in cinema history. Disney gave her big-screen break in 1964. But you

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might be surprised to know that a childminder with magical powers had

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a lifelong before Hollywood came calling. Mary Poppins first appeared

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in book form in 1934 a fictional creation of author PL Travers, who

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was quite surprised to find her story being published at all. It

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never occurred to me that anyone would want to publish it. I was

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writing it really for myself. I thought, well, a publisher won't

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want this, but apparently he did. A fiercely private woman, her

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background was long shrouded in mystery, with the writer Brian

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sibling knowing her well. He knew her secrets. She was born in new

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south wales Australia. She grew up very much caught up in the world of

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storytelling. How did she end up in England? She wanted to escape from

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Australia. Her father died when she was seven, her mother tried to

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commit suicide when she was ten. It was in London that she wrote the

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first of the stories. The books were very successful, successful not just

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in Britain but America. It captured the imagination of the daughter of a

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Hollywood producer, none other than the king of animation, Walt Disney.

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He became convinced a film version of the story would make a fortune.

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Disney was used to getting his own way, but Pamela Travers was no

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pushover when it came to negotiating the film rights. It took nearly 20

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years to get those rights. She didn't like the idea of Mary Poppins

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becoming an animated character. At that time, Disney only made animated

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films. It was only when he persuaded her he could make a movie of Mary

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Poppins that wasn't a cartoon. Was it the money that persuaded her?

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That was part of the equation, and was away re-establishing the fact

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you was the author of this well-known character. People knew

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the character but didn't know who the author was anymore. Production

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began in 1963. While the characters were having fun on screen, tensions

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on the set were brewing right from the start between Travers and

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Disney. The didn't really get on. It was very stormy. It really was a

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head-on collision between two very charismatic, very powerful, very

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independent people. She was somebody that wasn't going to be brushed

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aside. She had long and very difficult consultations. A lot of

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what she said founded into the film. The film premiered in 1964 and

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received a rapturous five-minute standing ovation. Disney felt

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vindicated. He had a huge hit on his hands. But there was one woman in

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the auditorium who was not clapping. Far from it, she was in floods of

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tears. Pamela Travers. She hated the cartoon elements of the film. And a

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lovely thing she is too! Travers was so appalled, she vowed never to work

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with Hollywood again. 50 years on, her story has been turned into a

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film starring Tom Hanks and Emma Thompson. Well, Pamela Travers. You

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can't imagine how excited I am to finally meet you. My name is Mrs

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Travers. What do you think that PL Travers union would have made of

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this new film? She would have been appalled, outrage and horrified. But

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somewhere underneath, I think she would have been secretly quite

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pleased. But she would definitely have notes for everybody about how

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it should have been done! Let us begin. She has a lot of ideas. What

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kind of ideas? No, that is not a word. We made it up. PL Travers

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wrote another seven Mary Poppins novels but none of them match the

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success of the first. The film version made her a multimillionaire

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race, but it was a high price to pay for such a very private person. You

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can find out more about PL Travers and Mary Poppins in a special on

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November the 30th on BBC Two. I was never a fan of those cartoon bits.

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We were a massive fan of Mary Poppins. Lexie, my daughter, is

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learning a song from it as we speak. She's watching at home. You

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dedicated your autobiography, No Holding Back, to Lexie and Holly.

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It's interesting how things started for you. Your mum had a very

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different experience to you, bringing up your daughters. It was

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pretty tough for her. It was heroic. She was on her own a lot of the

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time. She had to cope with so much. She gave us the most amazing

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childhood. I always remember being happy. She used to let me and my

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sister, Debbie, very cutlery and crockery in the garden to keep us

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happy! Weeks later we would dig things up. I remember digging up a

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stainless steel teapot and giving it to my grandad for his birthday. He

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must have been thrilled! You say in the book that you wouldn't allow

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your daughters to do that. My mum said, I did it to keep you quiet.

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She had three jobs at one time. I don't blame her. There's no way my

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daughters are allowed out of the house with crockery, no! What is

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really obvious from the first chapter is you were surrounded by

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lots of strong women. The one I Love is your gram. She's amazing. Tell us

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about her. She is 93. She lives in Gloucestershire. She is completely

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independent, she's at home is still on her own, stubborn to the point of

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annoyance. But that generation don't want any help, they don't want to

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make a fuss. My mum is fantastic with her and my mum's sister, always

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visiting. She sends them away all the time and says, you've got your

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own lives, dear. Is that the grandparent whose cat you named? My

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mum keeps telling me off because she says it's not true. My Nan had a cat

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called Mandy. Towards the end of its life it was just this mattered,

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mangled creature. It was very sad. But I was due to be borne any minute

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and my mum called me Amanda. Mandy and Amanda. My mum says it was from

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a sitcom, which is probably true. But the fact is Chris calls me

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Mandy, everyone does, just to annoy me. There are lots of funny bits in

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the book, but there is a serious side as well because at the

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beginning it tells us about the difficult childhood you had. Did

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that play a part in how driven you were? I honestly think it did. Even

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though we were so happy and had a great upbringing, I think it was

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that matriarchal line that me and my sister had. We had a feistiness

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installed in us to survive and keep moving forward, and I think that

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came from my mother and her work ethic. She was incredible and did a

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great job. When you got on stage it was not because you wanted any fame

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celebrity. Yes, every celebrity says that but we did not have those

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celebrity magazines when we were growing up. We did not have the same

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culture as we had now where everybody wants to be famous. All I

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wanted to do was be on stage so I would sing in the back garden and

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annoyed the neighbours. I would charge people 5p to come and watch

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my production! It was the production of Aladdin when you got turned down,

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was it not? Angie, who has been on the show before, you threw her out,

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I wanted the lead, and she did not give it to me. I was absolutely

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mortified, and she gave me a sherry to calm my nerves. I will not say

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how old I was! My grandma used to make me very weak martinis! My

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mother did not even know, she was appalled. What have your friends and

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family made the book, then? What did they say, what with their reaction?

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Overall, it is OK. My family found it difficult because I am in the

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public eye and they are in my life so they have to be dragged into it.

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Overall, they are quite happy about it. They are a massive part of the

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story, and I would not have survived if it had not been thanks to them.

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There is a sense that you have written it all down to... It is

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there for my daughters to read when they are older. I have not held back

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and I have been very honest. No Holding Back is out in the shops

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now. In 1975 the BBC aired a fly on the wall documentary featuring an

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11-year-old arsonist whose future was being decided by psychologists

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and social workers at the secure assessment centre in County Durham.

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Mini and Me was directed by Franc Roddam and had an impact on the

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public. It is being shown on BBC for tomorrow and in a moment we will

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catch up with Franc Roddam and Mini. First a flavour of the

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original documentary starting with an explanation of why he was locked

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up. You are here following two offences of arson. It is a school

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for maladjusted children. Michael set fire to his home while his

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father was asleep upstairs. Two months later he returned to the

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house and set fire to what remained. Michael and squandered 18 times. He

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received regular psychiatric treatment through this period. There

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was a box of matches their and I said, I will have them! There was

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too much time to burn the down. It was lucky there was not a person in

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the house. What do you think about it? You think it is a good thing to

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do? To me, it is. To others, it is not. Do you understand what you are

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saying? Yes. What if you set a fire to somebody's house? You think you

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should be allowed to do that? No. Well, I can tell you what has not

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happened. You are not going back home. We are not sending you to an

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ordinary school. What is going to happen is that you going to be here

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for the next three or four weeks. We will find out who is going to have

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you. I will let you know myself, all right? I promise I will tell you

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where you are going. I will tell you who is going to work with you, OK?

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Yes. Well... As I said before, I do not think it would be right for you

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to go back to an ordinary school. It would not be good for you, it would

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not be good for other people. In view of the history of

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anti-social behaviour and the serious risk that Michael presents

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to himself and the community, he would require long-term treatments

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under conditions of physical security.

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Well, Mini and Franc Roddam are here. It is a powerful documentary.

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The fact that it was about your life, it is quite upsetting. There

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was a real public reaction after that, was there not? There was a

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strong reaction towards him. I do not think much has happened since

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then. The documentary had a big impact and I think it is because

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Mini has a strong personality. You were thinking that this kid should

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not be locked up. All of the letters that came in for Mini, he had no

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idea, did he? No, it was Franc some years later who told me that there

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were lots of letters at the BBC. My understanding was that the

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authorities got rid of them. Were you not allowed to watch the

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documentary interview 21? How did you feel the first time you saw the

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documentary, especially the end bits that we saw there? It had an impact

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on me. I was watching it as a 21-year-old man. Part of me wondered

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where that boy had gone too. By that time, I felt like my psyche had been

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fractured slightly. I was watching this young boy the speak with such

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confidence. I was struggling myself at that time. What did happen to

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you? You did not go down south, did you? No, the authorities did a

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U-turn. There is that finale to the documentary where, unanimously, they

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are saying that I need to be locked up. They did the complete opposite

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and sent me to the other side of the campus with no bars on the windows

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or locked doors. Franc, Mini spent his life in and out of prisons and

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hospitals but you believed that it could have been so different. It is

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interesting. If he had come from a middle-class family, he would not

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have been locked away. I remember the psychiatrist in the film had

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said that I should get rid of the romantic notion that people can be

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cured. He said that some people should be managed and he put Mini in

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that category. I disagreed with him and I think that is why we formed a

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friendship. We finished the film and Mini said that this was a great

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moment. He started jumping on trains and coming to London. In 18 months,

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he ran away 18 times, I think. My wife and I gave him some supper and

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we took him back. We formed a long friendship and the authorities told

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me that I cannot see him any more because I am disrupting his

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treatment. I said, OK. They did not tell Mini. He thought that I had

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abandoned him. We got together ten years later, I think. They actually

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told me that it was Franc's idea that we did not meet. You have

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written it down in an autobiography. How cathartic was it for you to

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write that? Hugely. It was an opportunity to have an expression,

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vent some anger in a positive way. Obviously, as a child setting fires,

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that was my expression. Franc came along and gave me a voice. He told

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me to be myself. It was an invitation to good to refuse. It

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reconnects you with what you were thinking of as a boy, I guess? Yes.

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When I had written the book, I felt like I had got the strength back

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that I had when I was ten years old. You talk to Fire Services and all

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sorts now? Yes. Well, listen, we wish you the very best. The book,

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Mini and Me by Michael Cooper is out now and you can see Alan Yentob's

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Mini: A Life Revisited tomorrow night on BBC Four at 10pm. Thank you

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to M No Holding Back is out now. We mentioned a trampoline that had

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flown away. We have found the! No way! Somebody has contacted us. We

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are a public service! Before we go, David Bowie has been paying tribute

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to Lou Reed who died yesterday, aged 71. In 1997, the BBC elaborated with

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the singer on a special version of the song, Perfect Day. It went to

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number one. He said that he had never been more impressed with the

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performance of one of his songs. # Just a perfect day. MUSIC: "Perfect

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Day". # It's such a perfect day, I'm glad I spend it with you.

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# Such a perfect day you just keep me hanging on. # You just keep me

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