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Hello, welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones and Matt Baker. It is

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the night I have been dreading for weeks. Yes, it is the start of

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Strictly Come Dancing 2011, where 14 of us will be doing our best

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impressions of real dancers. Which should give our guest an

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Nice to see you again. Are you dreading it as much as Alex?

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Tonight? Well, I woke up at 5am. I thought, what are those steps? I

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got out my iPod and I started around the bedroom, colliding with

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a chest of drawers. Every time I turned around, quickly, it would go

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on to the next track. It gets to you, doesn't it? I haven't even got

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the track on my iPod. This worries me. She's got a string quartet in

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her bedroom! We spent quite a lot of time together over the last

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couple of weeks. We know that you like to do a bit of a prissy

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impression. AS BRUCE FORSYTH: It goes with the territory, yes.

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was a bit taken aback, when you started doing your impression of

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him? When everybody does the warm- up, I can't resist... AS BRUCE

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FORSYTH: We love to dance. Going up behind Tess Daly, changed that

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joke! Turns around, God! He is a legend. It is officially the

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hottest last day of September in a century. If you've been enjoying

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Later, we will be finding out why Queen guitarist Brian May has

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turned investigative reporter. As he well knows, there is just an

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hour and a half before his wife, Anita Dobson, and half of the

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dancers perform for the first time. These were the scenes earlier,

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queues of people dying to get in. You said you saw some with sun

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burn? There were queues of them, they had been sunbathing all day.

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It's like Centre Court tickets! At least we've got a roof on

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Television Centre, we are guaranteed some play. You're left

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in no doubt that the public owns the show. The tide of goodwill,

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optimism, just warmth. If there is one thing I remember, it is this

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sickness phase you are going through at the moment. It really

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doesn't get any better. It gets progressively worse. You get less

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time to be sick. Anyway, you will be fine. You know what we are going

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through. Just enjoy it. Earlier today I went to Strictly

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headquarters to capture the anxiety, the panic and to disturb Edwina

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Curry in her underwear! So, here we are. This is where

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everybody arrives and get out of their cars. This is Television

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Centre. Harry! How are you? Amusing way through my hands. Can I come

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out? My partner, we did a rehearsal yesterday and she was extremely

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nervous. If you get nervous, it means that you care. In a few weeks

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you have been dancing with James, your buttocks have turned up.

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on! I call her Bambi, she is my little Bambi. She's not the most

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co-ordinated person in the world, but she is improving massively.

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That is all I can ask for. Alex! Yes. Good luck with that, James.

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This is everybody's lunch. Somebody has got some fish and chips. Over

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here is where they keep all of the glamorous costumes. We are not

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really allowed in here. We will Transit! Just in their... Edwina is

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getting changed! -- we will transfer it. After yesterday, I

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literally lost the plot. I couldn't even hear the music starting. Well,

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here we are in make-up. This is probably the most relaxing part of

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the day. It is also the part when you think about how nervous you

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are! This is the really important that. All of the professional

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dancers will walk through these doors to get into the studio. This

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is where I will be feeling really I feel the need to applaud after

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that, I think it's marvellous. How has everything going with your

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training? We've got some footage. Erin is fantastic. I've got the

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best possible partner. Let's look at you in action. Good lines.

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are very quiet. Incredibly quiet. I'm thinking what to do. I have to

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dress in black because of the World Cup. She is from New Zealand, that

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is my All Blacks outfit. I think we should change the rules, when you

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are standing at the top of the stairs, they put a heartbeat into

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the music. They say, and now... We did think of that in our dance

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at the end. The freestyle. Or the Birdie Song? How I your teeth?

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had root canal surgery on Monday. Excuses! It it doesn't affect my

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dancing. But, you know, my face just smelt -- swelled up like a

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balloon. I thought, I don't want that happening at the show. To a

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man and woman, it's a great bunch of people. Jason is so funny.

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brilliant! I feel that I've got a string on the top of my head, and a

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poll up my backside. And Russell, he couldn't be happier, darling! I

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am so happy! And Vincent, I spoke to Vincent today... He has got a

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very strange way of speaking. Nancy and Anton is worth watching

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tomorrow. When I get nervous, actually, I just go into doing and

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Do you find when you spend time with people that you start

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automatically impersonating them? Or do you think you will do a bit

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of homework? I'd been doing it a lot recently. People have been

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asking if I can do impressions in the dancing. Occasionally, doing

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the salsa, I'll do Sean Connery. It becomes the shalsa. Ended say that

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she loved dancing with a different celebrity each day. She's brilliant.

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Have you got Alex done? She came on and said, are there any Fritz? She

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was so excited, she arrived on the set. -- fruits. But, I mean...

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Before this, you were known for doing so more political stuff on

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Channel 4. Why do you then feel that you want to enter the world of

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spray tan? There was such a tide of positive energy. You say, I'd been

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asked to do Strictly. They say, I love that show! There comes a time

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when you shouldn't take yourself too seriously. Take the show CVC,

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but not yourself. You throw yourself into it. I was worried I

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would make Ann Widdecombe look like Ginger Rogers. The worst thing that

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can happen is that you will be totally humiliated, someone once

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said. And I like fake tan! We'll take our mind of the dancing with

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comfort food. There's nothing better than a freshly baked loaf of

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bread. But some are better than others. Here's a question for you.

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How many loaves of bread does the average household eat in one year?

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Invented in 1961, the Chorleywood baking process provides 80% of the

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bread that we eat now, boosted by extra yeast and additives, it is

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cheaper, faster and baked in huge quantities. But it has not been

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without critics. Many say it has made bread Dole and reduces flavour.

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Others point to the large amounts of salt used in some loaves of

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bread. But there is an alternative bread that can be traced back as

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far as Ancient Egypt. Now, as then, the sourdough method relies on

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naturally-occurring used, rather than blocks of commercial yeast.

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The foul and water then entered here is the basis. -- flower. As

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the yeast keeps reproducing, bakers keep starter dough that dates back

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years. It breathes life into bread to make it rise. The good way about

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making this bread, you don't need much commercial yeast or salt

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either. Each mix needs just a small amount of starter dough. As long as

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you keep feeding it with flour and water, the precious used within the

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starter just keeps reproducing. Ind deary, it can live for centuries. -

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- In Theory. Some of these starter doughs have past two generations,

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crossing Continents on the way. was brought over by our head baker

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from South Africa and it has stayed here ever since. Are they is a

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fanatical? When they arrive in the area, they will share it with other

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bakers and create their own starter. They will feed it and it just

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becomes their life, really. It becomes part of them. Time to

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uncover the secrets of the well- travelled yeast with in this mother

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DoH. This is coming with me. This is a East Bank in Leatherhead,

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where hundreds of different strains are analysed, perhaps locked and

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frozen in liquid nitrogen at temperatures of -190 degrees

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centigrade. Science is insuring the tradition of artisan the yeast is

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not lost to future generations of brewers and bakers. Some clients

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have their own strain that they guard very jealously. We are able

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to bat bat for them and look after it for them. It's a sort of a back

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stock in case they have some sort of a disaster. -- Bank that for

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them. This living collection of the state back to the late 1800s. It

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contains 850 strains. I've brought one more for analysis. You have to

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have a look at the sample that we have brought to you from rosy's

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bakery. That would be great. are really enthusiastic about it

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aren't you? Definitely, it's fascinating. It's going to take a

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few days to analyse the unique properties of the sourdough yeast.

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Back at the bakery I am carrying I can see why it is called sour

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dough. There is a pronounced Tanni nest to it. It is a Joel -- chore

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worker. You must be very proud? It is good stuff. The effort involved

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means that sourdough often costs double the price of standard bread.

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But you really get what you pay for. And not about to suggest that all

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bread should be baked this way. There is always going to be a place

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for industrial scale breaking -- baking, producing a lot of bread at

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affordable prices. But it's good to see that with the help of artisan

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bakers, the old sourdough alternative is thriving. As for the

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analysis of the dough, it looks like an about to find out the

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results. Speaking of results, Rory, how many

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do you think? How many loaves of bread? 150. It is 80. Food would

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have thought? More results! I had in my hand some a GAR jelly with

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the yeast from rosy's bakery. It's not that great, they Iraq three

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different kinds of yeast in here. In the kind of bread you buy from

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the supermarket, there is only one. That is what is so great about

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sourdough bread. It's a much more serious blow for bread. I've got a

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serious bread face on. I'm glad you have an appropriate face. Sourdough

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is quite expensive, but prices are bred in general are rising? There

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was a big spike between 2006 and 2008. It went up from 75p to �1.28.

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UN sliced bread is slightly cheaper than sliced. The less they do to it,

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the more you get. The problem is, it is all about wheat. That is now

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an international commodity. It is traded around the world. The

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harvest has been pretty good, but there is a whole host of factors

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that can influence that. Supermarkets try to keep the price

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down, because it is what gets people into the shops. But we can

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never guarantee that it will always be cheaper. It has been a bad

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summer? The wheat harvest is looking pretty good across the

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world. Talking of people that buy their bread from supermarkets, they

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are missing out on variety? I'm not going to condemn any body for

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having a busy life and getting their bread from supermarkets. What

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bothers me is that we risk losing those artisan skills of baking. If

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it all becomes industrialised, nobody will know how to make the

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stuff. You get very individual bread from local bakers. Nothing

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better. You off bread? It's just a chance to do a bit of detox. While

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I'm doing Strictly I just wanted to... Slim down? Dancers are so

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careful about what they eat. I think bread is something I just

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thought I would... You don't want a Have some of that. This is Japanese

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bread, wrapped in cooky dhow. Brian May is one of our most

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successful musicians, but when he was last here, he told us he would

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rather be remembered for his love of animals than for music. One of

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his passions is the protection of badgers. He is worried about the

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proposed Cole, which the Government says is needed to protect cattle

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from TV. -- cult. Here we are in the beautiful

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countryside and how peaceful it looks, but there is a war going on

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out here between people who want to protect their cattle from disease

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and those who want to protect wildlife. Badger culling is a

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proposal, as part of a wider controlled programme for bovine TB,

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a very serious disease of cattle in many parts of England. I think the

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notion that we could actually eliminate the disease by culling

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badgers is completely misguided. The Government is about to license

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the killing of hundreds of thousands of badgers in an attempt

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to control bovine TB. Are they justified? TV is a disease called

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by breathing in airborne droplets from an infected animal. Right now,

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farmers have to kill any cow that has tested positive for TB to try

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to control the spread of the disease. That is why they are upset.

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For years, the finger of suspicion has been pointed out badgers. --

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pointed at badgers. I am here because I believe animals have

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feelings and my work to try to protect wildlife. If the two sides

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can pool their resources, there is a chance of beating the disease of

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bovine TB in cattle and in badgers. Badgers living a network of tunnels

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which can be hundreds of years old. But they live in a network of

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tunnels. They are a protected species. Jan is the spokesman for

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bovine TB for the National Farmers' Union and runs a dairy farm in the

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middle of a TV hot spot. How many badger setts in the neighbourhood?

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Probably five main ones that affect us. This is probably one of the

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entrance holes and there are more back in the bushes of there.

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1971, that is the time when a badger was first found on a farm

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with TB. It began at that point. It appeared that TB had gone from the

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cattle into the badgers. That has to be the assumption. But it was

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only since it came up the Cotswold escarpment towards us, in the

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badgers, and we saw it in the badgers on this farm before it got

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into the cattle. One year, three different badgers that we found

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dead had TB, and the next time we had a TB test, about six months

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later, we went down with it and have been going down of the sense.

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You are assuming badgers are the main problem. A lot of people would

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say it is more from one account to another. It is only when you get

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cattle living alongside the endemic effected badger population that you

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get this persistent recurrent TB. The transmission route from badgers

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to cattle has not been proven. Animal welfare group the badger

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trust reject the theory that badgers are the main cause of

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transmission of the disease. They believe that infected cattle slip

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through TB testing and infect the rest of the herd. The so-called

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skin test to test cattle at the moment is at best only 80% accurate.

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So we hear this figure from farmers about 25,000 cattle being

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slaughtered last year in England alone. And we feel sorry about that,

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as we do about the death of badgers. But what that means is that there

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are over 6000 infected cattle left in the national herd. That is the

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single biggest problem. A ten-year scientific study concluded that

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culling badgers cannot make any significant difference, so why are

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farmers still pushing for it? I am saying is that we have passed

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evidence here that it makes a very big difference. The proposed

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culling areas we are talking about are going to be much bigger. We are

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going to look carefully at the boundaries of those areas. We are

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talking about culling badgers in close proximity to cattle in the

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south-west of the country where we know we have a problem. If this is

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not the right solution, what is the solution? We very strongly believe

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in vaccination for both cattle and badgers. Why are you rejecting

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vaccination? It is colossally expensive to use and totally

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unproven as to whether it actually reduces the disease enough in

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badgers to stop its billing back into cattle. You and I strongly

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believe in the long run vaccination will be the answer, probably

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vaccination in cattle, but we are many years away from that being

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allowed an being effective. We are going to head towards 40,000 cattle

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being killed the game this year. We have to do something about it.

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would it take for you to sit down at a table with people like the

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badger trust? I am sure that I and a few colleagues would be happy to

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sit down with them and try to get a better understanding of where they

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are coming from. Would you be amenable to that? Certainly, we

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would be amenable to any discussion that might move things forward.

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These talks are now going ahead but we need them to succeed in finding

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some new answers, because if they do not, we will soon be looking at

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slaughter of our wildlife on a huge scale. Bryan joins us now. What did

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you have to achieve by making this film? First, awareness, because I

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meet people in the street who go, what, what is going on? I want

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people to know there is this terrible crisis and we are looking

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at losing thousands of badgers, a lot of whom would be healthy,

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probably most of them. The other thing was that I was trying... I

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rejected the idea that we should fight the farmers. Many people

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think that would be the way to go, to boycott the farmers. I thought

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from the beginning that was a bad idea and the way to conquer the

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disease is to team up with farmers and try to help them solve their

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problems. And did your views change when you met up with the farmer?

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kind of knew the script. Both sides are entrenched. He is great. I

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think he tells his story very well and I have great sympathy for him

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and the farmers going through this. But my contention is that Carling

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is not the way to go, particularly the one which has been proposed by

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the Government at the moment. -- culling. It was great that we heard

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that both sides are prepared to talk but what do you see as the

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solution? I am excited that they are going to talk in the same room

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together and I will be there. I hope to see some thinking outside

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the box. Both sides have to rethink. Vaccination is what I would like to

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see. It is expensive, but it should not be about money, it should be

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about ethics, whether we should be killing healthy animals, or solving

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our business problems in another way. There are other things. I get

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unpopular when I say what else could happen. If I was a farmer and

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bringing up my cows in a particular place where I knew they were going

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to get sick, I would stop doing it and do it someplace else. You can

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do it in East Anglia. Moving your farm? I have operated myself many

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times. I know that is a hard thing to do. -- I have up rooted myself.

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But there are ways around this. Culling is a very risky business.

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All of those that have been done in the past have made the problem

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worse, so you have made -- you are taking a terrible risk. You have

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farmers who have been on the land for generations. You heard those

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facts, 25,000 cattle culled last year. And it is costing the

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taxpayer. Something has to be done. On that, we agreed. Am hoping there

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will be enough common ground that some kind of plan can be involved -

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- evolved which makes more sense and does not involve killing and

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killing, because that will go on forever. In other news... Your wife,

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Anita Dobson, a huge night for her. How is she feeling? How has she

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been? Well, it is hell. She is in Boot Camp, but she loves it. I have

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never seen that Lady so happy. She loves every minute. She does not

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want to win, just to stay in long enough so she can do the training.

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She adores every aspect, the dressing up, the make-up. Sprayed

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Tam, for God's sake. She is a serious Shakespearian actress.

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think they need a vaccination programme for dancers! Thank you

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for your photos. We know that it is not sunny everywhere, so send some

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pictures of you in the rain as well. Jamie Crawford as a story of a

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British landscape photographer who started horsing around to settle a

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bet. It is so easy to take split- second stills and slow-motion film

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for granted but some of these techniques are far older than you

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imagine. More of the way we see the world and how we understand bodies

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in motion. It all began with a bet on the horses. Eadweard Muybridge

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was an astonishingly innovative photographer who initially worked

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with some of the first plate cameras in the 1860s. He put

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himself in precarious positions to photographs stunning natural

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landscapes. But it would be his revolutionary study of movement

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that would make him famous the world over. The story goes that

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railroad tycoon and horse breeder and the Allen Stanford approached

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Muybridge to settle a bet on the theory of whether all four of a

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horse's hooves were off the ground at any point. It was a hot topic in

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the time, but seemingly impossible to prove. They had no reliable

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shutters. They had to rely on their own devices for exposing the

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photographic negative. So they needed long exposures in order to

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let a huge amount of light into the camera. Yes, and that meant

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effectively you could not capture fast movement. How did he sold it?

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He set up banks of cameras and develop his own unique form of

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shutter. They were set up in front of a white background and the track

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was very white as well, so he would reflect a lot of light into the

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lens, but the image would be better defined against the white

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background. The horse would run across and trigger the threads and

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it would trigger the shutter to open in one-hundredth of a second.

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The horse galloped through in less than one second and each camera

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caught a different stage of the motion. For the first time,

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Muybridge captured motion impossible to see with the naked

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eye, proving that all four of a horse's feet left the ground at the

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same time, and Stamford won his bet. But Muybridge had caught more than

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just an image of unsupported transit. He captured the full

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anatomical process of a horse's gallop. By tracing each stage on to

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a zoopraxiscope, his own invention, he was able to project the motion

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16 years before the creation of the film projector in France. We have

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come to Epsom Downs to recreate this momentous event and see if we

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can also capture a horse in unsupported transit. Muybridge was

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also surrounded by a assistance, and I am, too. Instead of using the

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chemical triggers, we have a rank of people to do it manually. Here

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comes a horse. The question is, have any of these cameras caught

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the horse with all four feet off the ground? And here is the proof

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of unsupported transit, recreating Eadweard Muybridge's technique over

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130 years later. Today, we could have just filmed a horse on a high-

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speed video camera. But even today, stills cameras can have the edge

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over a single video camera. Imagine, for example, Muybridge's cameras

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perhaps curving around the subject, capturing the action. What you get

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is a virtual fly around. If it seems familiar, a version of this

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technique, at times lies, was hailed as cutting edge in the

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Hollywood blockbuster of the Matrix, and this clip shows all of the

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stills cameras lined up, just like Muybridge's. There is no doubt that

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Muybridge changed the way we see the world, making the invisible

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visible by showing how bodies appear in motion. He deepen our

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understanding of photography, and more than 100 years on, his

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innovation still has the power to stop us in our tracks.

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Unbelievable, the lengths people will go to to settle the debt.

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Loads of pictures have come in. This was sent in by Kate. This was

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