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Tonight, on a Book Review Show special, Christmas has come early,

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we are helping you to pick the best books to put under the tree this

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year. With just 21 shopping days until

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Chris marks we have asked each of our panelists to pick their top

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tips for boorbist presents this year. Kate Mosse enthuses about

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Caitlin Moran's How To Be A Woman, and Ian Rankin's crime thriller,

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The Impossible Dead. Marcel Theroux argues the case for Matthew

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Hollis's Fransolent. Mark Ravenhill champions shoe selected stories by

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Alice Munro, and Factory Girls, and Sophie Hannah battles for Why Be

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Happy When You Could Be Normal, and the very, very bad Sex Awards. In

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the week of his death, we know the scene for which Ken Russell will

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always be remembered. Here for a premature Christmas the

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four crickets you dream of meeting under the mistltoe, Kate Mosse,

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Mark Ravenhill, Sophie Hannah and Marcel Theroux.

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This week each of my guest has chosen two books, one fiction, one

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non-fiction, that they recommend you buy someone for Christmas. Each

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has two minutes to argue their case. First up is Kate. Kate's first

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choice is Caitlin Moran's How To Be A Woman, a bomb bastic memoir that

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makes sure there is fun in feminism. It is the funnyiest book I have

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read this year, possibly one of the funnyiest books I have ever read.

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It is part rant, part philosophy, part feminism, part memoir. This is

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not a feminist manifesto, or a call to arms. This is absolutely an act

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of personal enlightenment. And saying, these are the things that I

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thought, this is why I call myself a feminist, you too should call

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yourself a feminist, I will tell you why I think it is. This is the

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anti-Cosmo, it is the anti-women's magazines, this sort of woman or

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that sort of woman. This woman says you can be any woman you want to be,

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you know what, it is fun. Trust me, the minute you do that and lie on

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the floor and look up at the starsa decide the person you want to be,

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your life will change. Anybody who gets this book will laugh all the

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way through Christmas and Boxing Day, they will feel liberated to

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drink and eat as much as they want. When they shut it they will think I

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will give that to another ten people I know. Kate's choice of

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fiction is Ian Rankin The Impossible Dead. His second crime

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drama, featuring DCI Malcolm Fox, a very different rozzer to Rebus.

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Rankin is one of the most important British crime writers, it not, the

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most important. Many people have not been able to get into him,

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because he wrote so many Rebus novels, this is just the second in

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a new series. I want to say to anybody, who has always wanted to

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read Ian Rankin, but put off by the fact there is 25 Rebus novels.

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These new ones with Malcolm Fox are great. They work, why, because they

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are proper plotting, characters, properly clever. They also have

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what all great crime writing has, which is a proper sense of social

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context, and really showing a mirror, holding a mirror up to the

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world. There are all sorts of things about what it means to be a

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carer and juggling the personalal life and professional lie. These

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people are all men, that is refreshing foo. It is absolutely a

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crime novel you can give to anyone who likes crime, it won't offend

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anyone, but when you shut the book you will think that was a proper

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old fashioned puzzle. Caitlin Moran, Sophie did you read it and want to

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give it to ten people and shout hurray? It is a brilliant and

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hilarious book. You can't imagine that any woman with a sense of

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humour wouldn't love it and wouldn't be able to relate to it

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completely. It is just hilarious. It is riven with humour, but makes

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some incredibly serious points. I thought one of the best things was

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when talking about a 14-year-old boy and girl saying, on-line porn,

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why can't it be lovely, it is so scary for both girls and boys at

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that age, let's have more of it, but let's make it consensual, great

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sex. Do you think it was worth reading? I would regift it, I'm

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afraid! After about 25 pages, because I think Caitlin Moran is a

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very attractive person and I love her columns. But that voice, after

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about 25 pages it really pulls. She has developed this thing, a nerdy

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teenager, she's a woman, as the title of the book says. This nerdy

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teenager with a snake bite in one hand and menthol cigarette in the

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other, just ground me down, I found it hard to get through. I'm with

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Mark, I found the serious sections more moving, when she was writing

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about her decision to have an abortion, when she's writing about

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breaking up with a boyfriend. These kinds of things. I felt she had six

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espressos and tried to write jokes about her underwear. It is funny,

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what is great about the book is her sharing stuff that one would be

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embarrassed to share. That is liberating. There is a great line

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about talking about overweight, saying we were the elephants in the

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room. When you are fat when you are not shaped like a human. Did'nt you

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think the threading of this idea, particularly for younger

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generations, the idea that the serious stuff is threaded through

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with all this humour. I think in terms of talking about abortion, it

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is one of the best and most moving things I have read ever about

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abortion. That is true, I'm obviously not its demographic. I

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thought it was feminism as seen through Sunday Times style section,

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Mulberry handbags and Jimmy choos. Jo there were developments of the

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last 30 years, and if we went back to 1970 most of the problems would

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be solved, it is a peculiar idea of feminism. There is ladishness to it,

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I'm too old for it. I read it because my 21-year-old daughter

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recommended it to me. Although you say it looks slightly regressive to

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cancel it all out, it is more about a different way of looking at some

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of the issues that have not been solved. I didn't find the voice

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greated at all -- grated at all. I loved that voice, she came across

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as such a lovely, funny person. does in her columns too.

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message comes across strongly. is the message? Being a feminist

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involves asking the question, would the men be doing this, are the men

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doing this? I thought feminism was just about discovering you are a

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human being. It is not about saying you can have all kinds of ways, it

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is about personal self-respect and having a reasonable deal in the

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world. She has these ground rules. How do you judge whether you're

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being a feminist and whether you are behaving in an appropriate way,

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she says the question is to ask "are the men doing this?", I

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thought when I was having my mascara put on in the make-up room,

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I thought are the men having mascara. We asked, we were denied.

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Even just the pubgt situation annoyed me, if I had a pound for

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every -- pubgt situation marks annoyed me, if I had a pound for

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every one I would be a rich man. She loves a list, it was like

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reading an awful teenage diary. Final word? I think there is an

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element of age, I think I'm probably too old for this, maybe

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you are too. I think what it is, this is individual feminism, but it

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is also a feminism that is refusing to be defined about what other

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people said feminism should have been. That is incredibly important

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in terms of liberating girls and boys. We move on to Ian Rankin, did

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you find with the book that he absolutely had got his mojo back?

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wasn't aware of him ever having lost it, I have to say. I thought

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it was a brilliant book, what I particularly loved was the absolute

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focus on story. You can tell, all the way through, that the author

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just loves telling a good story, that is his top priority, and I

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sometimes get slightly tired of reading, I read an awful lot of

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crime novel, often I get the sense that telling a brilliant story is

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not the writer's main priority. Here is absolutely was. As you say,

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it is immaculately plotted, it races along. The characters have

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real depth, it is so sort ofers and economical in terms of the prose, -

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- terse and economical in terms of the prose. It is a true story, the

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murder, it felt to me that Ian Rankin had embraced this, and

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thought I will put everything I have into it? It goes like a train.

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You don't know until the last ten pages, which is everything you ask

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in a thriller. I really enjoyed it, in that respect. It was my first

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experience of Ian Rankin. Was it? was glad I could come into a second

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novel in a series and not feel I had all this baggage. It was

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refreshing that the detective was a, he wasn't a maverick, he was a wuss

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and shying away from conflict, it was a relief to dispense from the

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cliches. There is real wit and sharpness about it. It is my first-

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ever Ian Rankin book, the first time I have ever tasted the mojo.

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And it was absolutely fantastic, he's so topical on the money with

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SNP politics, and just feels so much as though it is right in the

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moment. Just the lightest of touches he can establish a

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character and situation. Just as a writer you are rereading this and

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say how can you so quickly establish a character. The dialogue

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is fast, the short sentences, the genre pleasure, he says do you

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think we should speak to the former psyche cotic Scottish terrorists,

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does he have anything to do it, of course he does. He's part of

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investigating other policemen and the mistrust and disDane they are

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held in, and taunted by the other policemen. It is fascinating.

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had all these different sets of cops, he managed to delinate them

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incredibly well very quickly, you got a clear sense of character.

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What is so clever about it, there are essentially two parallel

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stories, the nature of terrorism, how in the mid-1980s many of us

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lived in that sort of way, now we are in a different generation of

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terrorism. It is so light, there is no, let's pretend we were in the

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same place as then, it means you come away thinking the patterns go

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around and comes around. It does end with two guys chasing each

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other in a forest. Which is standard. As elaborate as it is,

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the pay-off ends up there. Any way, one for the stocking I think. Next

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up to get into the Santa spirit, is a different selection, a biography

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of the war poet, Edward Thomas, and a 700-page graphic novel. The non-

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fiction is Now All Roads Lead To France, a touching biography of

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Edward Thomas. It is not the first biography but the best. It focuses

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on the last five years of his life. He's an interesting character, he

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came to his poetic vocation late. It is about the crisis he went

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through that leads to him finally discovering what he's supposed to

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be in life, which is a poet. It is about the world of 100 years ago.

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It starts around 1911, it is a world that is vanishing, but it is

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the world that our grandparents and great-grand parents knew. It has a

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trace of fame yart about it, at the heart of it is a really --

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familiarity about it, and at the heart of it is about creativity

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ruining your life. He's a miserable sod throughout the book, not a

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sympathetic character. The catalyst of his become ago poet is his

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meeting with Robert Frost, coming to London, part of the literary

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world, their friendship uncorks something in him and it comes to

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right. He gives a good account about how poetry happens, a very

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plausible description of what a poet does and how a people comes

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into being. It is a timely book, we are coming up to 1914, the

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centinary of 1914, and thinking about the First World War, this is

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one of those books that sets the scene for that period of

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remembrance. For his fiction choice, he hasic

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abouted Habibi, a rich and summous graphic novel by Craig Thompson.

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What I liked about the book. It is graphic Noel that tells the story

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of two orphans, it is a rip-roaring read t has a lot of sex in it. It

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isn't for children, it is graphic, it is for adults. It is set in an

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Arabian Knights world of desspottic Sultans and uniques and hare

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recommends, it is also -- There is Arabic kal lig fee, there is an

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extraordinary lovely object out of this, which would be a lovely thing

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to find under the Christmas tree. The he had war Thomas first. I

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wonder -- The Edward Thomas first, I wonder if Richard Thomas set out

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to write this, and thought how difficult a person Edward Thomas

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was, it starts as a story of someone who becomes a poet from

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being a cricket, then there was all this dark stuff about him? The film

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was so suck sibgt in why the book works. It was beautifully written.

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There is the life and the expression of poetry and how

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creativity works, the destrubgtiveness of being poisoned

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by creativity with no outlet. But I wish I hadn't read it. I have

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always very much enjoyed his poetry. I hate to look at art through the

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prisism of his life, they are not the same thing, the man, the woman,

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the art. I have always, there is always a filter around the First

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World War, we all know a lot about it, it is one of those periods of

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history that we know. He's not just a miserable old sod, he's self-

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obsessed, preoccupied all the time, he leads his wife, children,

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friends a merry dance, and there is a horrible sort of mythology of the

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great man of letters, when he isn't even one. So I found it very

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interesting as a biography, or all sorts of reasons, but I wish I

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hadn't read it. Ted Hughes talks about him being the father of us

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all? God help us. His wife wrote a memoir of their relationship, which

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is an interesting work. I'm not claiming anything exemplary about

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their relationship. They got married very young and it was a

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difficult relationship. He was so cruel to her. The idea of him

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blossoming out into a poet, before he gets to that point, the one time

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he actually turns back on his critque, is on pound. He says Ezra

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Pound is this marvellous as new writing, then he reverses his

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decision when he's facing other poets' wrath. I thought that was an

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interesting point in the book, it was almost when he stopped being

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the critic, when he realised it wasn't for him. I found all the

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gossip about the poetry world, all these people who you hear as

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legendary games in poetry, you read their work, suddenly -- names in

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poetry, you read their work, and suddenly they are ordinary human

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beings with ambition and squabbling. I agree with Kate, Edward Thomas

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comes across as such an awful person. I'm usually sympathetic to

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unsympathetic characters, I love them, he was a peculiar brand of

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self-absorption. Spiteful. It says his children sat in silence at the

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dinner table every night because they were so scared of saying

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something that would bring on one of his bad moods. I thought I'm not

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interested any more. If your children were that scared of you,

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then I don't care how good your peoples are, I'm not interested.

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Poems are, I'm nod interested. makes the book powerful is we know

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where it is heading, it is going to the war. This man gets obsessed by

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these little battles between poets and the daily grind of cruelty to

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his family and hardship of living. We know we are heading towards the

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First World War, when we get there he can't quite say why he's going

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or fighting. He has a fatalistic sense of why are we doing this?

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thing we haven't mentioned is his love for the landscape, and what he

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feels about nature, it is very profound. I feel I should say a

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word in his defence. I think one of the things that makes him so

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prickley, is because he hates himself for the way he behaves

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towards his family.'S on the bread line,'s earning beans and he can't

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feed his family. He finds -- he's on the breadline and earning beans

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and he can't feed his family. not just his family, there is one

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bit that resonates, it describes a friend of his builds him a house to

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live in from all the best new materials, his comment is the house

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is full of old griefs, full of new griefs to come. I just thought what

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an ungrateful get. There is something ruthless about an artist,

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any artist. I think maybe we are a bit schemeish because we recognise

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something in our glrb squemish because we recognise it. Let's talk

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about Habibi, it is the Koran, Old Testament, it is sex, saidism,

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isn't it? I thought it was great. I hadn't appreciated how much

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connection there was between the Koran and the Old Testament, and

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how many of those stories from the two Bibles cross over. Then it

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takes on this huge epic journal year, it is graphic novel, all

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about ink and symbols, it has this weird sexuality in the centre of it

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that is really quite disturbing.S had attitude to sex and sexuality

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is very strange, that drew me through the book. He grew up in an

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evangelical household, there is some distaste or something about

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the sex in the book. I found it difficult to navigate it through,

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you had to go back, you were trying to work out was she telling the

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story to the little boy. That was good, you looked at all the

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beautiful caligraphy. That was so beautiful about the book, the

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stories within stories, the reminding of the be a -- be a

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hammic faiths have. It is beautiful and interesting about the Old

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Testament and Koran faith, but I was appalled. This book starts with

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the rape of a nine-year-old. Although we are saying this sex is

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distasteful, I think it is a bit more than that. If this was a book

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that had been discovered, in the deserts, in 1600, I would possibly

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find it less worrying than I do. This is written by a young man, now.

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All the way through the book, it is a series of, the lead child, as she

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is, being raped over and over again. It is not sex, it is rape. For me

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it was too much. What did you think about that? My views on this book

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should probably be completely discounted, because I hated it. But,

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I'm sure it is brilliant, I have a problem with the graphic Noel as a

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form, eventhough I abs -- graphic novel as a form. Eventhough I love

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novels, as soon as I saw Habibi I thought, oh no, I just hated it. I

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don't know how much was that this specific graphic novel. The great

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thing about this as a graphic novel is he is able to move through

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different forms of story telling, some of the pictures look like

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something out of a Disney film and he moves through into script.

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is the problem, it is seductive. The idea that some how, because it

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is very beautiful and very clever, all of those things I agree with, I

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did actually, in a weird way, enjoy touching it and looking at it in

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all sorts of ways. But in the end it is still images of a child being

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raped repeatedly through this entire book. I couldn't get past

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that to appreciate the beauty, I'm sorry to say. You will be getting

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it. The sex is disquieting. It is meant to be. Next to poke their

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head above the parapet is Mark, with a selection of short stories

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that almost qualifies as new, and unChristmassy account of working

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life in China. Mark's non-fiction choice is

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Factory Girls by Leslie T Chang, knows narrative of the largest

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migration in history, is an explanation of what motivates the

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largely female work force. expect the book to be an expose say

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of the terrible conditions, and the conditions are very, very tu. But

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it is also a tribute to their energy, and their determination.

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What Chang manages to do is really personalise it, she is of Chinese

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origin herself. She has really personal connections with the sbt

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matter, but she -- Subject matter, but she follows it into the

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factories. When you read the book you get projected back to yourself,

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the past, you get a sense of what it must have been like to be part

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of the Industrial Revolution in England in the 1840s, that sense of

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phenomenal social change. The most popular book to date about the

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Chinese situation has been Wild Swans, that very much focused on

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events of 40, 50 years ago. For any reader, this is a really great book

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to get a sense of where China is now, and where it might be going.

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In the fiction catagory, mark has chosen New Selected Stories by

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Alice Munro, a compendum of some of the author's finest work. What is

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great in a few pages she manages to capture 30 years. There is huge

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momentous changes in individual's lives, often women, often set in

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her native character. There is as much incident as a Thomas Hard

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Times novel, but written with the - - Thomas Hardy novel, but written

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with the lightest of touches. They are ordinary situations, how we

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feel about being married, being a parent, our relationship to the

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past. There is something about the sense of humour, there is a slight

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sense of her characters being pioneers. I think there is

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somewhere in there a Canadian sensability. I don't think that

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could have been written by an English or Scottish writer.

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This is some of her best known stories, do you think reading them

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again, did it reinforce her reputation as a famous short story-

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teller? I think she's one of the best writers on the planet right

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now, this collection is amazing. She has a buy onic level of

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observation. She's -- bionic level of observation. She's hearing and

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seeing things that other writers don't get. Whether it is nature or

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a glance between lovers, or something in a marriage or

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relationship, as you read the story you see it with an incredibly

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enhanced level of intensity, that stays with you some what when you

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put the book down. She has an exceptional gift. It is a gift for

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the short story, but is the short story itself satisfying, she brings

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these wonderful characters to life and they are gone in a puff of

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smoke? That is always my feeling about short stories. That I often

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feel a little bit like a need another piece of toast, I'm not

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quite full. I think she's equisite. It is the literature of observation,

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it is the literature of the moment, rather than the overblown, purple

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prose, that would be all over the place. I think that what makes her

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different from any of the other short story writers, of course, is

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she had sequences of characters, ages -- ageing of characters, there

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 195 seconds

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They were liberating themselves in a way. She had -- she said she had

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read more about the bottom of Oprah Winfrey than about China! I was

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really pleased to have read it. There is no sense at... You are

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right that this is liberating and actually these young women, I

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thought particular the chaps in the village and that was all very good.

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They have not got more power. That is precisely it. For me, the most

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poignant moment... It is about their possessions. Depending on

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their job status, their power relationships within the family

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changes. But still, that counts for a lot. It has one of the characters

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is... Hang on. Let her finish at point! I found it an incredibly

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gripping book and I could not put it down. I thought it was so

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interesting about the relationship between women's career aspirations

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and their family relationships and how those things work together.

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There are so few books about women's attitudes to their working

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lives. Even in the West. brilliant thing about this was that

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it was life-affirming in the way they helped each other. Some of the

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girls didn't but many did. What we don't see are these terribly

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downtrodden slaves, which we thought we were going to see. But

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things are changing and you get the sense of massive upheaval. Let's

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move on to your choice, as Sophie. One from the celebrated crime

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writer and the real story behind Oranges Are Not the Only fruit.

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This non-fiction choice details and upbringing in Accrington and a

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child who had lived in the shadows of her mother. The title is a

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direct quote from Mrs Winterson, Janet's adoptive mother, when she

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tells her she is in love with a girl and she tries to explain to

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her that it makes her happy being in a relationship with this girl.

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Why be happy when you could be normal? It is a brilliant title.

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And debris and moment in the book, because at that point, a new kind

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of realise, well, this is what we are dealing with. I don't buy into

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this idea that if you write about upsetting things then you have

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written a depressing book. If you have written brilliantly about

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difficult, traumatic experiences, that is uplifting. To see somebody

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can go through such a horrendous experience and come out not only

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intact, but also as brilliant a Sophie's fiction choice is Faithful

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Place by Tana French. The police detective Frank, is told by the

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police that the suitcase of his girlfriend has been found of 20

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years ago, they were supposed to elope together, and she disappeared

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and nobody saw her again. Frank is determined to get to the bottom of

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this and find out what happened to the love of his life who

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disappeared 20 years ago. My main interest in Tana French's writing

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and this book is the human story. Her characters are so real. I think

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thatth's because she gets right into their minds. She writes about

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character -- I think that's because she gets right into their mind, you

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know what they are thinking, even when they are having unworthy

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thoughts, even if they are being selfish and a bit grotty and not

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doing the noble thing, you are right there inside their heads with

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them. It is as well written as any Booker Prize winner. And as

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brilliantly plotted as any best- selling commercial novel. It is

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virtually a perfect book, in my view.

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Mark, for you is a virtually a perfect book? On the re-gift pile

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again. For me, the central character was PC Plodding, really.

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I'm not good with crime models, maybe a bit butch for me. These

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middleaged men with troubled family lives, plodding through a plot, I

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find dull. I thought the writing a novel about how much Dublin,

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Ireland has changed, was really a great thing. I wanted that theme to

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have room to breathe. I felt it was trapped by genre and even the

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tropes of genre writing. Very much like Ian Rankin's book was set in

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Scotland, the Dublin of this was very well realised? I have never

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read Tana French because the jacket it had made me think it was

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extremely violent and not for me. I think it is a superbly written book.

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I entirely agree, there is the unusual combination of a very well

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put together story, but there is also this incredible sense of place,

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and outstanding dialogue, I would say. The sense of poor Dublin. For

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me, what made it work particularly was, oddly with the books we have

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in this programme, it was how do you get out of a life that you

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don't want to live. How do you get away from the violence that is

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endemic and all around you? How do you carve yourself a tiny bit of

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space? Almost like The Facts Of Love, and I thought this was, for

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me I went and bought her other books because I wanted to read them.

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I don't think it is a Booker Prize winner, but it is exceptionally

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good dialogue. You had read Ian Rankin and converted to crime

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novels, did this do it? I found myself shouting out "he's behind

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you" from page 40, it was obvious who done it. For 300 pages you are

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thinking why on earth. To me it was bizarrely, badly-plodded, it was

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obvious who the killer was. I have to disagree with that. I had no

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clue who the killer was. Don't say who it is? I won't, absolutely not.

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I'm not the Grinch! I think it is interesting, the fact that you say

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you don't read a lot of crime. I think if you read as much crime as

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I do, you would know that Frank, the central character in this, he's

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not like all the other cops. He's a maverick hard-drinking cop divorced.

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Seeing his children on the weekends. He's fighting to get back on the

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case, I recognise all the cliches. You are looking at the CV points,

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you are right inside his mind, I promise you, he is far more

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lovingly described and fleshed out and psychalogically complex than

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almost any detective I have read. Led's move on to the second choice

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-- let's move on to the second choice, Jeanette Winterson 's, what

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Oranges Are Not The Only Fruit was to fiction, this is the story of

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Jeanette Winterson, I found it a deeply, deeply sad book. I found it

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a very sad book, but a superb book. It is neither a memoir or biography.

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For me, it was actually, how do you, the same point, working-class men

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and women, particularly in the context of this show, working-class

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girls, how do you get out of the path that you have been put on.

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Whether it is the Caitlin Moran in a totally different way, and the

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Jeanette Winterson, that is why I suppose I found the Factory Girls,

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something depressing for me, doing it through the make-up and the

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selling. Here you have Jeanette Winterson, books saved her loif,

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she just made the decision she could -- life, she just made the

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decision that she could not be this person, this pretty abusive

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childhood, she started with A, B, in the library, she made herself so

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powerful she didn't needing to through the alphabet in order. It

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was sad in some ways, but it is an incredibly uplifting book about the

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power of words. She is unflinching about herself? She doesn't come

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across amazing. The other figure in the book, the mum, Mrs Winterson,

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her adoptive mother. One of the things I took away with the book,

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the sense her mum is her muse, I know it was a miserable childhood,

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you wouldn't wish it on anyone, this is what made her a writer.

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This is her Dickens in the factory experience. As strange as her mum

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was, her mum has huge respect for words, she burns books. Of the ones

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we have read, this was a stand-up book i thought it was incredible.

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Although Jeanette Winterson's story in some ways is so peculiar, it is

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all our stories, it is about reconciling yourself to your

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relationship with your parent, whatever that parent might be. She

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is rawly honest about herself, but it is a much bigger story than her

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own story. This whole experience of a working-class culture that

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educates you, and finally she goes back to the library, and the

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literature A-Z section is take Anne way and it is devastating. It is

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wonderful to the way to describe adoption, culling through part way

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through the story. -- coming through part the way through the

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story. Going to find her birth mother, confession about how she

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has felt low in her own story. identity crisis is brilliantly

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paralleled. The adoptive family and the birth mother, that is

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paralleled by the reference she maids to her public persona as a

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writer, in brackets she mentioned her critical reception, some people

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say she's brilliant, and some say she's rubbish, that is mentioned in

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passing. Even as a writer she doesn't know who she is. So much I

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had reading the book, where Jeanette Winterson became a loved

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public figure like Alan Bennett, Victoria Wood, like a warm, cuddly

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northerner, then she says something so sharp like "I could murder

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someone", then you think she won't be that character, she will always

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be edgey. The thing I loved about it, she really is one of the stand-

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out writers, whatever the books you might like or dislike. The fact

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there is a bravery, to say, you know what, these 20 years inbetween,

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I won't tell but those, they are not your business at the moment.

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That takes a writer of real genius to go, you know what, it is my book.

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The line by line is great, it is so easy, it is like someone chatting,

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she will turn a phrase, you think this is not someone chatting, this

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is honed prose. Buy it for Christmas, at least for one person.

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Do not regift. If one thing enthuses people more than Christmas

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books it is Santa-size-sackfuls of sex, next week's literary awards

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will capture the imagination. As an extra treat, or not, we asked each

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of the panel to raet their favourite nominee. Going first with

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his -- rate their favourite nominee. Going first is Marcel.

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The Land Of The Painted Caves, "he went lower, found the entrance of

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her warm, wet cave, she spread her legs to give more access, he got up

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and lowered himself". Kate? Mortgagefying, I'm reading Lee

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Child for The Affair. "we stood up again, and kissed again, by that

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point in my life I had kissed hundreds of girls, I was ready to

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admit this was the finest of them all. She was spectacular. She moved

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and quiffered and trembled, she was strong but gentle, passionate but

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not aggressive, hungry but not demanding. The clock in my head

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took a break, we had all the time in the world. We were going to use

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every last minute of it. This is Sebastian Barry, "we got

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rid of our dammed clothes, and clung, he was in me when, they were

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happy, lapy, young n that room by the water, and in those -- happy,

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happy and young, in that room by the water, and in those moments we

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knew we would marry and not a word would be spoke about it ". This is

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Stephen King, 1/11/63. "is that all of it, or is there more? I haven't

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been with a woman in such a long time. It turned out a lot more, in

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the end she began to gasp, oh my dear, oh my dear, oh my dear God,

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oh sugar!" Luckily we have run right out of time before mine! On

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that salacious note, that is all for this week, thanks to my little

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helpers, Kate Mosse, Sophie Hannah, Marcel Theroux and Mark Ravenhill.

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You can find out more about tonight's items on the website.

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