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We're back on Monday. On the review show tonight, Robert Pattinson | :00:27. | :00:36. | |
swaps vam pieric virgins for - vampiric Virgins for Bel Ami. We | :00:36. | :00:41. | |
talk about the fictional lives of sex offenders in the new book, Lost | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
Memory Of Skin. Sex and society in the 18th century, a new exhibition | :00:46. | :00:50. | |
by the Danish painter, Johan Zoffany, at the Royal Academy. And | :00:50. | :00:55. | |
Stephen Mangan tells us about bringing Douglas Adams detective, | :00:55. | :01:00. | |
Dirk Gently to the screen. Not pontificating over the he can | :01:00. | :01:05. | |
electic election are John Mullan, professor of English at University | :01:05. | :01:10. | |
College London, writer and stand-up comic, AL Kennedy, who has | :01:10. | :01:15. | |
published six novels, most recently The Orange Prize nominated. The | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
Blue Book, and Marcel Theroux, writer and broadcaster, whose | :01:18. | :01:25. | |
latest book, Far North, is a futuristic novel set in Siberia. | :01:25. | :01:29. | |
Good evening, we welcome your thoughts on the subjects, tweet us, | :01:29. | :01:34. | |
we appreciate the feedback, most of it, at any rate. Tonight we start | :01:34. | :01:42. | |
in Paris, in the mid-1800s, where an all-star cast, including Robert | :01:42. | :01:46. | |
Pattinson and Christina Ricci, bring a tale of lust, adultery and | :01:46. | :01:55. | |
ambition in Bel Ami. Set in decadant 1800s Paris, it is the | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
story of George, played by Robert Pattinson, from ex-military upstart, | :02:00. | :02:08. | |
to one of the richest and best connected men in Paris, by a series | :02:09. | :02:14. | |
of mistresses. It has an impressive ensemble class. Ranging from big | :02:14. | :02:19. | |
Hollywood hitters such as Uma Thurman, and Ricci, to respected | :02:19. | :02:27. | |
British talent, Chris tin Scott Thomas, and Philip Glennster. | :02:27. | :02:32. | |
is rotten with money, if you can't succeed here, lie down and die. | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
film premier at the Berlin international film festival, and | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
marks a debut for Declan Donnellan and Nick Ormerod, who worked | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
together in theatre for more than 20 years, with their own company, | :02:43. | :02:48. | |
Cheek By Jowl. Remarkably there were many things in common to the | :02:48. | :02:53. | |
theatre. I think, in a sense, our skills in film separated very | :02:53. | :02:58. | |
naturally. I looked after the visual side, the space, and Declan | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
looks after the ablgtors, that is very much -- actors, that is very | :03:02. | :03:07. | |
much how it works in theatre. Ami tackles theme as lust, | :03:07. | :03:13. | |
deception and emotional abuse, with Pattinson decribing George as | :03:13. | :03:17. | |
completely amoral. There is a thread of timeless political | :03:17. | :03:21. | |
corruption and the manipulation of the media. It springs off the page, | :03:21. | :03:26. | |
it is an incredibly strong, powerful, fascinating story about a | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
fascinating character. It also has incredibly contemporary relevance, | :03:29. | :03:33. | |
in that the whole political background is so up-to-the minute, | :03:33. | :03:38. | |
it is almost laughable. Even since we finished shooting two years ago, | :03:38. | :03:45. | |
the unrolling story of phone hacking, a corrupt media, seem | :03:45. | :03:51. | |
minute-by-minute more and more relevent. So does Bel Ami hold a | :03:51. | :03:56. | |
mirror from past to present predicaments, or merely a tale of | :03:56. | :04:01. | |
debauchry in fabulous frocks. you want to be the man who put down | :04:01. | :04:10. | |
the Government or do you want to be a fool? | :04:10. | :04:16. | |
The directors said they wanted the contemporary subject of political | :04:16. | :04:22. | |
intrigue to come to the fore. Did you find it part of the film? | :04:22. | :04:29. | |
all takes place off screen. It is the Government involved in Algeria | :04:29. | :04:34. | |
but they could have been dealing in orange juice futures, it is all off | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
stage and it is talking, and you don't get a sense it is at the | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
heart of the movie. The heart of the movie is this amoral character | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
making his way in the world. He's supposed to be making his way up | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
from poverty, at no point do you think he has ever been poor in his | :04:49. | :04:56. | |
lie. You think it is a gap year student who might have had his cash | :04:56. | :05:01. | |
card retained in Bangkok and is having lots of sex. The movie has | :05:01. | :05:06. | |
great looking actors, and in lots of scenes they are not wearing | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
clothes. Robert Pattinson was the central vehicle for him, this | :05:10. | :05:13. | |
ensemble cast of beautiful people around him, does he hold the | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
centre? I don't think he does, really. It is not entirely his | :05:16. | :05:22. | |
fault, because it is very difficult, the point of the story is that it | :05:22. | :05:29. | |
is told from Georges viewpoint, that is how De Maupassant tells it, | :05:29. | :05:37. | |
not in his voice but his viewpoint. This heartless person is somebody | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
into whose mind and appetites and sympathies you are drawn. Pattinson | :05:40. | :05:45. | |
has to do it just by lots of close- ups of his face. And not | :05:45. | :05:51. | |
surprisingly, he can't do it. It would take a really good actor to | :05:51. | :05:54. | |
do it. Somebody says about him as a character, at some stage late in | :05:54. | :05:58. | |
the film, there is nobody there. And a lot of the time that is the | :05:58. | :06:03. | |
feeling you have. Did you feel that? No, I saw a different movie. | :06:03. | :06:08. | |
I was tired and I had a headache and it was really late at night. No, | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
I was very prepared to think that Pattinson couldn't carry it, he has | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
very difficult scenes as you say, he has no lines, he just has to be. | :06:16. | :06:21. | |
I got a real sense of his absolute desperate pursuit of just anything | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
that would mean he could survive. It is not really a film about sex, | :06:25. | :06:30. | |
and the sex isn't about sex it is about power. A lot of that power is | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
taken by the women. That is the whole point, the women in the end | :06:34. | :06:41. | |
have more power. They are fantastic. You have Uma Thurman, Christina | :06:41. | :06:51. | |
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Ricci and Chris ten Scott Thomas, she has a more Kirsten Scott Thomas, | :06:52. | :06:58. | |
she has a more difficult role. think Uma Thurman is great. I think | :06:58. | :07:04. | |
Uma Thurman gives a confidently terrible performance. The scene | :07:04. | :07:11. | |
where she turns the table on him, it sounds like it comes from the | :07:11. | :07:14. | |
director's voice, there is this nullity of the Robert Pattinson | :07:14. | :07:19. | |
character making his way, from scene-to-scene you don't know what | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
he wants. You don't actually know in the end what he's actually | :07:23. | :07:27. | |
driving towards? Sex, he gets plenty of it. What else does he | :07:27. | :07:34. | |
want. He's happy in the first scene when someone gives him five bob and | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
he can have sex with the prostitute, and then he's happy to go back to | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
the decision. Not many actors would be prepared to be that thick. In | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
the book he's thick, he does and says the wrong thing, he looks for | :07:46. | :07:51. | |
the next thing and has no ambition. He has complicated feelings, and it | :07:51. | :07:57. | |
is not that he's a brilliant Machiavellian figure in the book. | :07:57. | :08:01. | |
There is no complication in the film. The whole point is that Uma | :08:01. | :08:11. | |
Thurman, he's just a sieveer for Uma Thurman. Sypher for Uma Thurman. | :08:11. | :08:16. | |
He doesn't care about anything, maybe they did the sociopath thing, | :08:16. | :08:22. | |
there was a vacuum at the heart of the movie. This is the clip where | :08:22. | :08:28. | |
Kirsten Scott Thomas, the final woman he seduces, and is being | :08:28. | :08:33. | |
rejected by him. Take me with you, I need to talk to you. Remember | :08:33. | :08:39. | |
where you are. You shouldn't have seduced me. You should have left me | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
where I was, a happy and faithful wife. Please let me come with you. | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
Please, just for an hour, I have something so important to tell you. | :08:48. | :08:58. | |
Something to your advantage. It is about my husband. Kirsten Scott | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
Thomas has got the depth to play this, and she plays the most | :09:02. | :09:07. | |
difficult part? I find it difficult to watch her throwing her dignity | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
away chasing after that ninny. is just a character. Where have you | :09:11. | :09:16. | |
lived your life like that doesn't happen. He's the best looking | :09:16. | :09:20. | |
member of the sixth form. I feel the sexual politics is at a school | :09:20. | :09:25. | |
level, it never gets out. You have to feel with her, you have to feel | :09:25. | :09:29. | |
that she's somebody whose dignity is destroyed. There has to be a | :09:29. | :09:32. | |
really powerful force that makes her do that. He's very good looking, | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
that is not enough. That is the tragedy of falling for somebody | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
like that, who everybody around you knows it is bad news, still you go. | :09:39. | :09:43. | |
That is what happens in life. about the direction, both the | :09:43. | :09:49. | |
directors talk about spliting it up, they are very, very good on detail? | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
The frocks are fantastic. We obviously disagrow about Uma | :09:52. | :09:57. | |
Thurman. I think the direction, -- disagree about Uma Thurman. They | :09:57. | :10:02. | |
are so concerned about how she comports herself, and the frocks | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
and the amazing interiors, they are very, very lush, they have | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
forgotten to talk about the part she's playing. I love that rb you | :10:10. | :10:15. | |
see faces, there are people who -- you see faces, there are people who | :10:15. | :10:20. | |
know about it, but you see the acting. It is very close up. | :10:20. | :10:25. | |
That scene in the book is tremenduously moving, and his death | :10:25. | :10:30. | |
is greatly moving. We are in this situation, we have Robert Pattinson, | :10:30. | :10:34. | |
the Twilight crow, and mums and dads wanting to go -- crowd, and | :10:34. | :10:39. | |
mums and dads wanting to go and they are saying I'm not sure you | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
can go that? People saying you can't lose money with a film with | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
Robert Pattinson in it. We haven't mentioned the script, that is the | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
big hole in the film. The script doesn't move forward. You have no | :10:49. | :10:54. | |
sense of his motivation, even if you did, even if you assume he's | :10:54. | :10:57. | |
hungry for something, I don't know what it is, I don't know how he's | :10:57. | :11:02. | |
going about getting it. It is because he's a young guy. | :11:02. | :11:07. | |
script is insufficient. You notice the direction, the music, it is one | :11:07. | :11:13. | |
of the films which seems to have music that desperately tries to | :11:13. | :11:19. | |
impart drama that the script hasn't earned. I law a different movie. | :11:19. | :11:26. | |
you would like to see -- I saw a different movie. Bel Ami is | :11:26. | :11:32. | |
released today. Undersage sex and internet porn is hardly fodder for | :11:32. | :11:38. | |
Richard and Judy's Book Club, but Johan Zoffany chose -- Russell | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
Banks chose just those tough themes for his latest novel, The Lost | :11:42. | :11:51. | |
Reflection. An unknown 22-year-old male, known as The Kid, is released | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
from prison after committing a sex crime. He's forced to live in the | :11:56. | :12:00. | |
Florida Causeway, one of the few places where convicted sex | :12:00. | :12:06. | |
offenders are allowed to stay. Banks was inspired to write the | :12:06. | :12:11. | |
book after seeing a group of offenders living below his | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
apartment. The tunnel causeway crosss are from the mainland over | :12:15. | :12:23. | |
to the Barrier Islands, Miami Beach. I could see the causeway, I decided | :12:23. | :12:28. | |
to go and look in person and see who and what was there. It was a | :12:28. | :12:32. | |
completely ragtag and bob tail of sex offenders? The Cheek By Jowl, | :12:32. | :12:37. | |
you had serial rapists and some poor old drunk who maybe was | :12:37. | :12:42. | |
arrested for urinating in a public place. You had this mixed bag of | :12:42. | :12:47. | |
people, all of whom were essentially under permanent, on | :12:47. | :12:52. | |
going surveillance. Your anti-hero is guilty of a sex offence, but | :12:52. | :12:58. | |
still a virgin, he didn't physically touch anyone. Could you | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
write this book about any other character, who was a legislature, | :13:01. | :13:06. | |
who raped very young children? honest answer is I couldn't, this | :13:06. | :13:10. | |
was the first time I felt myself blocked out. I couldn't get into | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
his head. Not just because I didn't want to go there, but I didn't, I | :13:14. | :13:19. | |
was unable to imagine what was on the other side of that man's face. | :13:19. | :13:25. | |
I think it was because he had no remorse. If I can't feel affection | :13:25. | :13:30. | |
for a character it is very difficult for me to get | :13:30. | :13:35. | |
sufficiently intimate to write about a character. "the kid is no | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
psychologist and has no insight into what make as sex offender | :13:39. | :13:43. | |
offend. They are like chimps or neanderthals, who eventually would | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
have evolved into normal human beings, if it weren't for their DNA | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
having got scrambled some what. The kid wonders if all across America | :13:52. | :13:57. | |
there is some kind of strange radioactive leakage, like from | :13:57. | :14:02. | |
high-tension wires, or cellphones, or road and parking lot as falt, | :14:02. | :14:11. | |
turning thousands of American men, young and old of all-races into sex | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
offender, so instead of being attracted to women their own age, | :14:14. | :14:22. | |
they are attracted to young girls and little children. "You pay no | :14:22. | :14:26. | |
attention to the victim, why not? The victim has got plenty of | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
attention elsewhere and by other writers and other media. For me I | :14:30. | :14:33. | |
thought it was important to try to look at it from the point of view | :14:33. | :14:42. | |
of the perp. Novelists have been doing that for 400 years now, | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
looking at the world, not just through the point of view of the | :14:45. | :14:48. | |
victim, but the point of view of the person who has hurt the victim. | :14:48. | :14:52. | |
Alison, it is dark and distressing material he is writing about, he | :14:52. | :14:56. | |
doesn't write about the darkest and most distressing of the characters, | :14:56. | :15:03. | |
as he says himself, he can't do it? No, it is a strange book. I mean, | :15:03. | :15:10. | |
word-for-word, the way he writes, he's a writer, he can do it. There | :15:10. | :15:14. | |
are beautiful, descriptive passages, he talks about light coming off a | :15:14. | :15:18. | |
building being chummed into the dark. He nailed it. I thought | :15:18. | :15:22. | |
reading the first third of it, he has done a stunning book, the great | :15:22. | :15:26. | |
American novel for this decade, he has nailed it, he cares about | :15:26. | :15:31. | |
social issues, he's addressing where America is now, that it is so | :15:31. | :15:34. | |
divided that people can be utterly cast out with a complete lack of | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
justice. He's really going for it. Slowly he went further and further | :15:38. | :15:43. | |
away, the two characters, the Kid, the sex offender and the Professor | :15:43. | :15:48. | |
who comes in from outside. Professor, is essentially drawing | :15:48. | :15:53. | |
the story out of the Kid? He's Watson. I found the Professor quite | :15:53. | :15:58. | |
unbelievable for quite a lot of the time, and the Kid, I think, became | :15:58. | :16:01. | |
less believable as things became more allegorical. There is a sense, | :16:01. | :16:06. | |
this is to do with him trying to talk to America, that you are being | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
shouted at any somebody who expects you to be not listening, and not | :16:10. | :16:14. | |
sympathetic and not aware of shades of grey. He did say that he can't | :16:14. | :16:17. | |
get inside the head of a character unless he has some sympathy with | :16:17. | :16:22. | |
the character. In a sense, is that an Achilles heel with this book? | :16:22. | :16:30. | |
is a bit. We must be careful with the plot, it does have a plot. But | :16:30. | :16:34. | |
the particular offender, into sympathy with whom we have to be | :16:34. | :16:43. | |
drawn, turns out, by my standards, not really to be a terribly | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
challenging or worrying figure. In some ways the plot, he's actually | :16:47. | :16:51. | |
treated rather unjustly, he has been treated rather unfairly. I | :16:51. | :16:57. | |
agree with Alison, I think, this is really a sort of what, what the | :16:57. | :17:00. | |
reference call a novel which has something specific to say. It is | :17:00. | :17:05. | |
there in the title, Lost Memory of Skin. What it is saying is there is | :17:05. | :17:10. | |
a kind of range of maladjustments which are created by people living | :17:10. | :17:14. | |
virtually, and living just through the Internet and that's the cause | :17:14. | :17:20. | |
of this person's sexual malaise. There difficult thing to write | :17:20. | :17:25. | |
about would have been the humble character, or to write the Jonathan | :17:25. | :17:28. | |
Little character, and the kindly ones, a difficult character guilty | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
of terrible things? Yes, and I don't want to give too much away. | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
He's struggling with his own, the author is struggling. I enjoyed the | :17:36. | :17:41. | |
bok, it was three quarters of a terrific novel. He struggled with | :17:41. | :17:47. | |
the character of the Professor. To me it is hukle berry fin with a | :17:47. | :17:53. | |
massive porn collection. The kid is actually a very resourceful heroic | :17:53. | :17:56. | |
character, and you don't know what he has done and you want to like | :17:56. | :18:01. | |
him. In terms of plot and structure it moves really well. It is well | :18:01. | :18:07. | |
paced. The pacing is nice. The description works really well, with | :18:07. | :18:13. | |
the way the description is paced. I sthout it was a terrific craft -- I | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
thought it was a terrific craftsman the writer. In the last pit about | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
of the book he's wrestling with the revulsion and what it means for the | :18:22. | :18:28. | |
character. Margaret Atwood says he's the writer of the dark side | :18:28. | :18:33. | |
about the dark side. But he turned away. Essentially what he says it | :18:33. | :18:39. | |
means is The Most Memory of Skin, is about the Internet, where nobody | :18:39. | :18:43. | |
makes connections with each other. He's down on the Internet and down | :18:43. | :18:47. | |
on parenting in the same way. He said he thought the problems with | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
parenting in America is really bad? There is this peculiar thing which | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
seems to me rather sort of evasively done about the Kid's | :18:56. | :19:00. | |
relationship with his mother. She is basically, she is a single mum | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
who has brought him up, in his head, and he moves around inside people's | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
heads just as he wants to. In a rather dismaying way, sometimes. In | :19:09. | :19:14. | |
his head the bid thinks she has been a good mum to me -- the Kid | :19:14. | :19:19. | |
thinks she has been a good mum. But with her being promiscuous, there | :19:19. | :19:24. | |
is a connection, when she's having it off with her boyfriends, he | :19:24. | :19:28. | |
turns to pornography. There seems to be some sort of narrative link. | :19:28. | :19:33. | |
He has a fairly bog standard slightly neglected childhood. You | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
know that you can't necessarily trust what he's saying, or indeed | :19:37. | :19:42. | |
what anybody is saying, which ultimately becomes difficult, | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
because everybody is unhelpful, and looking at the author, helplessly | :19:46. | :19:50. | |
unreliable. You kind of drift into fantasy. When he's trying to | :19:50. | :19:55. | |
address something that is terribly real and he's passionate about. | :19:55. | :20:00. | |
Professor is given slabs of theory to think. He doesn't say them. | :20:00. | :20:07. | |
Those are surely Russell Banks theory. Who is to say about | :20:07. | :20:11. | |
pornography and the Internet, and the extent to which we are | :20:11. | :20:14. | |
inundated with pornography. In previous centuries nobody would see | :20:14. | :20:18. | |
the numbers of images of naked people, people engaged in different | :20:18. | :20:26. | |
sexual acts with the click of a mouse you can see them. The book is, | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
perhaps heavyhandedly towards the end about the loss of innocence and | :20:29. | :20:33. | |
the serpent in the garden of Eden? There is a lot about that. | :20:33. | :20:38. | |
whole idea he has set out with a thesis, and interesting what you | :20:38. | :20:45. | |
were talking about Steinbeck, he does it in a more imaginative way. | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
Russell Banks will talk about the disadvantage in America, endlessly. | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
The thing that wo take it beyond the thesis is really -- would take | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
it beyond the thesis is really engaging with both people, it | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
becomes natural and organic. Because he is, as he says locked | :21:00. | :21:06. | |
out of both them. There is a lyricism of it, and a buetyo in it, | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
there is a lyrical -- beauty of it, there is a lyrical quality. There | :21:11. | :21:18. | |
is lost people, a Lord of the Flies, and Coral Island, Ien joyed the | :21:18. | :21:24. | |
book. Before we finish -- I enjoyed the book. Before we finish, let's | :21:24. | :21:29. | |
talk about the six-foot character that slithers along the road. The | :21:29. | :21:35. | |
boy is so attached to the Ig uana that his mother smuggled into the | :21:35. | :21:41. | |
country when he was a baby. There are some really good bits of | :21:41. | :21:44. | |
description, when Russell Banks for a second forgets what he's writing | :21:44. | :21:50. | |
about and writes. One of the great bits is when he gets the pet ig | :21:50. | :21:55. | |
uana and it bites hard on his hand, and they have to go to hospital to | :21:55. | :21:59. | |
get it off, and they want to kill it. It is the most intimate thing | :21:59. | :22:04. | |
that happens to him. It is the memory of skin. The family portrait | :22:04. | :22:10. | |
these days is likely to be a snapshot. 300 years ago it was a | :22:10. | :22:18. | |
paint brush, easal and outfits glol lor. German painter, Johan Zoffany | :22:18. | :22:23. | |
was a big noise in London, to imhas not been so kind to his legacy. A | :22:23. | :22:33. | |
:22:33. | :22:39. | ||
new exhibition at the Royal Academy I think it is a great moment for | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
Zoffany, there hasn't been an exhibition since the 1970. Most | :22:43. | :22:49. | |
won't know him. He's unlike Gainsborough, Reynolds, we know | :22:49. | :22:55. | |
them well, but he's a discovery. Charles N'Zogbia arrived in a | :22:56. | :23:00. | |
bustling London -- Johan Zoffany arrived in bustling London and made | :23:00. | :23:05. | |
his way into society. A sexual adventure and timeless, he had an | :23:05. | :23:08. | |
eye for British aristocracy and the capital's institutions. He looks at | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
the world very much as an independent thinker, with a great | :23:11. | :23:15. | |
deal of intelligence, and as an outsider, you always get the | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
feeling that Zoffany is something of a fly-on-the-wall. He takes a | :23:19. | :23:24. | |
view on society, on art, on traditions, that are quite | :23:24. | :23:29. | |
individual, sometimes quite eccentric. | :23:29. | :23:34. | |
When Zoffany first came to London he was taken up by David Garrick, | :23:34. | :23:39. | |
the great actor and theatre manager, it was through that Zoffany first | :23:39. | :23:46. | |
gained his own celebrity in England. He was also taken up by George III | :23:46. | :23:52. | |
and Queen Charlotte. It was through their patronage he painted these | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
informal, domestic portraits. Arranged by theme and featuring 60 | :23:56. | :24:02. | |
oil paintings and a small selection of drawings and prints. Society | :24:02. | :24:07. | |
Observed is Zoffany's depiction of the rarified life at court, the | :24:07. | :24:12. | |
tricky arristok circumstance and his work inspired by his exotic | :24:12. | :24:18. | |
travels from Italy to India. The A Christmas Trifle is possibly | :24:18. | :24:28. | |
:24:28. | :24:30. | ||
Zoffany's most celebrated picture. -- the tryna -- We have grand | :24:30. | :24:36. | |
tourists ogling Venus, not because she's an art object, but a sex | :24:36. | :24:43. | |
object too. It is a very wry look at society. While Zoffany's | :24:43. | :24:47. | |
detailed portrayal of the upper echelons of British society hold | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
many historians spell bound, will this overlooked and unsung artist | :24:51. | :24:57. | |
manage to pull in the punters. It is amazing, the Royal Academy, | :24:57. | :25:02. | |
you have these massive queues for Hockney, and not so much for | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
Zoffany. But there is so much to see in the small space it exists in. | :25:07. | :25:10. | |
I hope lots of people discover Zoffany through this. He is tucked | :25:10. | :25:16. | |
away. It is hard to find it. I think it is a wonderful little | :25:16. | :25:23. | |
exhibition. It really justifies the things being said there about his | :25:23. | :25:32. | |
interest. He's not a deep pierceer of the human soul, but there is | :25:32. | :25:39. | |
enough zest, and glisening clutter of 18th century polite life to | :25:39. | :25:48. | |
amuse and entertain any viewer. He arrives and David Garrick takes him | :25:48. | :25:53. | |
up. It is a chance to paint this huge array of David Garrick himself | :25:53. | :25:58. | |
and unlocks other areas? He seems to have known everyone and gone | :25:58. | :26:01. | |
everywhere, you get his penalty through the exhibition. It is like | :26:01. | :26:05. | |
a photo journalist being unleashed through the 18th century, and | :26:05. | :26:15. | |
:26:15. | :26:15. | ||
taking it on. He's interested in what people are wearing, what they | :26:15. | :26:20. | |
clean their shoes on. Then he goes to India, and suddenly you are in | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
this extraordinary landscape and he's recording that as well. It | :26:23. | :26:28. | |
feels like you have gone into a time machine and come out. You like | :26:28. | :26:33. | |
the Indian ones? It is an extraordinary time. The East Indian | :26:33. | :26:37. | |
Company is in flow. These Masters of the Universe travelling out | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
there to make their fortune. And Zoffany is obviously in with them | :26:40. | :26:45. | |
and doing pictures of him, this is a cock fight he's doing one of | :26:45. | :26:49. | |
these group portraits. All the different personalities, they are | :26:49. | :26:54. | |
arguing about the cock. So full of, so vibrant, I didn't know there was | :26:54. | :26:57. | |
a record of this. What is great, this particular, there is a lot of | :26:58. | :27:00. | |
them, but the stories they tell within the paintings, that you have | :27:00. | :27:04. | |
to be in the know, and you know you can imagine the whole, particularly | :27:04. | :27:12. | |
in the London ones as well, all the stories going round about who is | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
sitting beside whom in the paintings and what the hand going | :27:15. | :27:21. | |
down there really means? He's a master of that, he's so lively, and | :27:21. | :27:28. | |
he's intoxicated by the livingness of the people. There is a guy in | :27:28. | :27:33. | |
one embracing this young, slightly worried looking boy. There is a | :27:33. | :27:37. | |
Redcoat with obviously his Indian mistress, there is sexual politics | :27:37. | :27:44. | |
going on between the colonel and others. It is so alive. He was | :27:44. | :27:47. | |
doing this, he was doing it for money. Obviously he would be | :27:47. | :27:50. | |
offending some people and not others, depending on the painting? | :27:50. | :27:54. | |
The money is part of the juice of it. He comes to London because of | :27:54. | :27:58. | |
the money. He starts off he's going to be a history painting and paint | :27:59. | :28:02. | |
biblical subjects. He goes to Rome, to learn how to. Thank God he | :28:02. | :28:12. | |
didn't do that? He sees these milordy, and he thinks, London. | :28:12. | :28:16. | |
London in the 18th century, you get the impression that England and | :28:16. | :28:24. | |
London was this vibrant place fuelled by cash. Because the | :28:24. | :28:30. | |
Hanover ians are coming, here you have Zoffany, a fellow German, and | :28:30. | :28:35. | |
George takes him to his bossom. Whether he's painting the Royal | :28:35. | :28:41. | |
Family or nay bobs, you get this wonderful mixture, he's doing his | :28:41. | :28:46. | |
job, getting paid and serving these rich people. He's not mocking them. | :28:46. | :28:50. | |
He's naughty. He's mischievous as well as doing his bit. He haven't | :28:50. | :28:58. | |
actually got an impage of it, there is him dressed as -- image of it, | :28:58. | :29:04. | |
there is him dressed as a friar, with condoms hoind it? You have a | :29:04. | :29:08. | |
Madonna and child on the front and on the back there is him dressing- | :29:08. | :29:14. | |
up as a friar to go out to the night. There is a Tyneyo thing in | :29:14. | :29:19. | |
the back of it -- tiny thing in the back there is a friar being tempted | :29:19. | :29:28. | |
by naked ladies. He has fun with the painting. He's there, he's | :29:28. | :29:33. | |
trying to flog a paint he sold, the Madonna. This gets him in trouble, | :29:33. | :29:43. | |
the sense of naughty nis, the in the Uffizi painting you see them | :29:43. | :29:51. | |
staring at the bum, and a notorious homosexual pointing and doing those | :29:51. | :29:55. | |
things. Queen Charlotte was so offended he got no subsequent. | :29:55. | :29:59. | |
fingers going up to the two guys wrestling. The gentleman with the | :29:59. | :30:04. | |
green coat and the gentleman standing behind him has a startled | :30:04. | :30:07. | |
expression. It is a mad painting, one of the things he was brilliant | :30:07. | :30:10. | |
at was painting people's, he painted people's possessions, he | :30:10. | :30:14. | |
painted people's art works. There is several paintings where actually | :30:14. | :30:18. | |
there is a painting within the painting, he renders them | :30:18. | :30:25. | |
beautifully. There is amazing Dutch sea scenes owned by Lord Dundos, | :30:25. | :30:30. | |
there he is with his grandson, that one the scene is immpossibly full | :30:30. | :30:36. | |
of stuff and people. Also, the idea that some of the Scottish paintings, | :30:36. | :30:41. | |
and the Scottish aristocracy, obviously they spent a lot of time | :30:41. | :30:46. | |
in London. The Drummond family is painted in London by Zoffany, but | :30:46. | :30:51. | |
someone takes the painting north and a Scottish painter fills in the | :30:51. | :30:54. | |
background. I'm sure he would have loved to come up, maybe he didn't | :30:54. | :31:00. | |
have the time. He went to Calcutta, that took a while. You get the | :31:00. | :31:08. | |
sense at the end of a very full life. It is very moving, in the end | :31:08. | :31:14. | |
you have a doddery, his eyesight is failing, he has dementia, he has | :31:14. | :31:24. | |
been a biggest, he has lost a son. You -- big ga mist, he has lost a | :31:24. | :31:30. | |
son. The David and Golaith, it is coquettish? If I could adopt that | :31:30. | :31:40. | |
:31:40. | :31:42. | ||
position my life would be very, very different. You can see why | :31:42. | :31:50. | |
history paintings was no much fun. It is a gland there, I don't know | :31:50. | :31:56. | |
what it is? It looks like a gland broken off a penis. One more of | :31:56. | :31:59. | |
Zoffany's jokes. It was in tune of those he was painting. He wasn't | :31:59. | :32:06. | |
having a go at him, it gives you sense these were sophisticated and | :32:06. | :32:10. | |
witty people. A Society Observed is on at the Royal Academy until the | :32:10. | :32:16. | |
10th June. This weekend would have been the 60th birthday of writers | :32:16. | :32:25. | |
Douglas Adams, after a successful pilot, it seems timely that Dirk | :32:25. | :32:29. | |
Gently is back on BBC Four, reunited Stephen Mangan and Darren | :32:29. | :32:35. | |
Boyd. Why do you think it is a bomb. I didn't say it was, I said it was | :32:35. | :32:38. | |
a suspicious package. If we think it is a bomb we should call the | :32:38. | :32:43. | |
bomb squad. It could be the local bomb squad who sent it to me, | :32:43. | :32:48. | |
accidentally kill a man's wife and he might thank me, accidentally | :32:48. | :32:56. | |
combust a man's sniffer dog and you will give never forgive you. Dirk | :32:56. | :33:01. | |
gets his theories from quantum physics, it makes for a tricky | :33:01. | :33:06. | |
process. He's not one to hone down on the fine details of finger | :33:06. | :33:10. | |
prints and boring things like evidence. Douglas Adams, the | :33:10. | :33:16. | |
originate for of hitch hiker's guide to the galaxy, died at the | :33:16. | :33:21. | |
age of 49, his peculiarly British way of writing science fiction | :33:21. | :33:25. | |
introduced the genre to a British audience. There is a lot of ideas | :33:25. | :33:32. | |
in the book, the ideas of us as a nation, our foibles, our paradoxs. | :33:32. | :33:36. | |
In his humour you are always looking to translate. It is a fine | :33:36. | :33:41. | |
line, they are detective shows, you want an element of drama, Spence | :33:41. | :33:45. | |
and tension. It is an interesting conundrum when you are filming, how | :33:45. | :33:49. | |
much do you go for the comedy and the drama. Our director, Tom | :33:49. | :33:56. | |
Shankland, has shot the three episodes as dramas. Rather than | :33:56. | :34:00. | |
adapting the original text verbatum, the writing team have taken a more | :34:00. | :34:05. | |
fluid approach to the scripts? books as written are almost | :34:05. | :34:09. | |
unfilmable. Trying to turn them into a neat, one-hour television | :34:09. | :34:12. | |
with a beginning, milledle and end and a story that is -- middle and | :34:13. | :34:17. | |
end, and a story that is self- contained, is impossible. You | :34:17. | :34:23. | |
wouldn't do justice to the books with that. Who is sending me a | :34:23. | :34:28. | |
Valentine's card in April, what has led this woman to fall complete low | :34:28. | :34:32. | |
and hopelessly in love with me. Will this latest TV installment of | :34:32. | :34:39. | |
an Adams text, assuage the concerns of his fan base, or is it an | :34:39. | :34:46. | |
abridgement too far. We have had the one episode, two | :34:46. | :34:51. | |
more to come. In 2010 when they made the pilot on this, on BBC Four | :34:51. | :35:01. | |
:35:01. | :35:02. | ||
it got three quarters of a million. There is no question of doing a | :35:02. | :35:06. | |
series. They are funny physical comedians, the pilot you are | :35:06. | :35:11. | |
referring to was the most successful effort. It was a cheaper | :35:11. | :35:15. | |
and shonky thing, blowing it up it has become more glossy, it has lost | :35:15. | :35:19. | |
some of the charm the pilot had. It is the struggle Stephen Mangan says | :35:19. | :35:23. | |
you have, it is essentially how do you turn Douglas Adams, essentially | :35:23. | :35:28. | |
a huge brain, coming up with flights of fancy for its own | :35:28. | :35:31. | |
amusement, how do you make 60 minutes of TV out of that. I think | :35:31. | :35:37. | |
it is impossible. The thing to do would be to make it funny. I don't | :35:37. | :35:41. | |
think there is enough jokes in it. Do you think the spirit of Douglas | :35:41. | :35:44. | |
Adams is alive in this? I don't think he has much to do with | :35:44. | :35:50. | |
Douglas Adams. I enjoyed it, has a lot to do with past Taoiseachs of | :35:50. | :35:59. | |
things we are used to -- pastiches of things we are used to. Pastiches | :35:59. | :36:09. | |
:36:09. | :36:09. | ||
of Sherlock, Spooks and Doctor Who. It is entertaining rips and par | :36:09. | :36:15. | |
December on some of the cliches of detective -- parody on some of the | :36:15. | :36:20. | |
cliches on detective and drama like Sherlock. I think you are riot, | :36:20. | :36:24. | |
Darren Boyd and Stephen Mangan are ter -- right, Darren Boyd and | :36:24. | :36:26. | |
Stephen Mangan are terrific together, you want them to build | :36:26. | :36:30. | |
the relationship over a longer period of time? For me it didn't | :36:30. | :36:40. | |
make me laugh. I felt it wanted to and was trying to. It is low-energy | :36:40. | :36:44. | |
and drawing the oxygen out of it, you have Stephen Mangan, not high | :36:44. | :36:48. | |
energy either, up against the dramas you have mentioned. We have | :36:48. | :36:52. | |
a high-energy, central figure, who carries one of theseam belief lent | :36:52. | :37:00. | |
things, is he a genius -- ambivalent things, is he a genius | :37:00. | :37:03. | |
or not at all In a drama you have to care about the characters, do | :37:03. | :37:09. | |
they care about the characters, or are they all puppets, an hour is a | :37:09. | :37:14. | |
long time to spend with puppets. is dark in episode two? They were | :37:14. | :37:23. | |
trying to open it up emotionally. I noticed because you have Bill | :37:23. | :37:29. | |
Pattinson coming in, suddenly a different approach to acting, a | :37:29. | :37:35. | |
more dramatic approach to acting, it thraers -- flares up and that | :37:35. | :37:40. | |
seems to do more. Maybe it is because it has this conceit, all | :37:40. | :37:44. | |
parts of direction unknown to these. That is fine and silly, but it | :37:45. | :37:49. | |
seems to me, however Silvio the plot, it should have had -- silly | :37:49. | :37:53. | |
the plot, it should have had a silly logical. It should have been | :37:53. | :38:00. | |
logical at some point? The trouble is. A witness box web of | :38:00. | :38:04. | |
interconnecting events? I don't think Douglas Adams is a profound | :38:04. | :38:09. | |
thinker. Steady, steady. everything is connected it becomes | :38:09. | :38:16. | |
a meaningless thing. It is these kinds of things. That is the thing | :38:17. | :38:26. | |
I really missed, Douglas Adams was a very serious writer, he did very | :38:26. | :38:28. | |
melodious dialogue. He cared about the human commission and was | :38:28. | :38:31. | |
compassionate and dark in some of the ideas he did. None that have | :38:31. | :38:36. | |
was there. He had a real focus, it was insane, but he was really | :38:36. | :38:40. | |
focused on how terrible human beings could be and they needed to | :38:40. | :38:44. | |
be saved from themselves. Read Douglas Adams if you can, the first | :38:44. | :38:48. | |
episode is on the iPlayer, episode two is on Monday. | :38:48. | :38:55. | |
Today marked the beginning of Glasgow's festival, Aye Write, it | :38:55. | :39:05. | |
:39:05. | :39:07. | ||
features a host of talent, with Natalie Haines and Alex Preston and | :39:07. | :39:13. | |
MartyFeldman. We thought it would be rude not to ask Karen Cunningham | :39:13. | :39:18. | |
about the best of the festival. aim to bring the best of Scottish | :39:18. | :39:21. | |
writing to the city. We are not like any other book festival, we | :39:21. | :39:27. | |
are based in the Mitchell Library, one of Europe's largest reference | :39:27. | :39:31. | |
libraries. It is a fantastic cultural programme, people are | :39:31. | :39:37. | |
finding it harder to engage with the formal political process, so it | :39:37. | :39:41. | |
is coming to a book festival like Aye Write gives them an opportunity | :39:41. | :39:46. | |
to debate, to discuss, to argue, and to be there with like-minded | :39:46. | :39:51. | |
people. One of our events this year is Scotland's book shelf, which is | :39:51. | :39:55. | |
mass reading campaign. We will have 20,000 copies of a free book to | :39:55. | :40:01. | |
give away, and a free downloadable e bok available, that will | :40:01. | :40:06. | |
encourage people to -- e-book, available that will encourage | :40:06. | :40:09. | |
people to read about Scotland's heritage. We have managed to bring | :40:09. | :40:18. | |
in a last-minute event, that is John Ashton's book on Al-Megrahi, | :40:18. | :40:24. | |
and we know it will be a particular relevance to a Scottish audience. | :40:24. | :40:28. | |
One of the special events at Aye Write we are bringing together for | :40:29. | :40:36. | |
the first time. The three Poet Laureates, from Wales, Scotland and | :40:36. | :40:39. | |
the UK laureate, they all happen to be women, that will be a really | :40:39. | :40:44. | |
special event. Aye Write runs until the 17th of | :40:44. | :40:47. | |
March, that is all we have time for, don't forget to look at the website. | :40:47. | :40:52. | |
We are looking forward to the literary riches on display by way | :40:52. | :40:57. | |
of Twitter. Thanks to my guests. Next week we will be reviewing the | :40:57. | :41:03. | |
new ITV series, Titanic, the latest crime fiction phantom, with guests | :41:03. | :41:13. | |
:41:13. | :41:13. | ||
including historian BettanHug hes and Ian Rankin. Taking us into the | :41:14. | :41:17. | |
interview is another BBC Introducing acts, this time it is | :41:17. | :41:24. | |
Dear Prudence with Valentine. # I want to place | :41:24. | :41:29. | |
# Always out to die # The colours blink | :41:29. | :41:35. | |
# And leave me black # Do I know | :41:35. | :41:44. | |
# Filling every corner of my mind # I know that you hear it too | :41:44. | :41:51. | |
# Valentine # With a heart as black as white | :41:51. | :41:59. | |
# Through lonely eyes # We watch you from the outside | :41:59. | :42:08. | |
# Valentine # Just let the roses die | :42:08. | :42:13. | |
# Keep us alive # And I will keep you safe | :42:13. | :42:18. | |
# My Valentine # Dear heart | :42:18. | :42:25. | |
# The missing page # In the golden fairytale | :42:25. | :42:31. | |
# A memory to thank to tell # Why | :42:31. | :42:38. | |
# Those dancing # Whispers in the dark | :42:38. | :42:45. | |
# But I know that you see them too # Valentine | :42:45. | :42:52. | |
# With a heart as black as white # Through lonely eyes | :42:52. | :42:58. | |
# With worlds from outside # Valentine | :42:58. | :43:06. | |
# And just let the roses die # Keep us alive | :43:06. | :43:15. | |
# And I'll keep you safe # My Valentine | :43:15. | :43:19. | |
# Lips fade # On the fringes | :43:19. | :43:24. | |
# On sidelines # I'll hold you close | :43:24. | :43:33. | |
# And we can disappear # Oh oh oh | :43:33. | :43:39. | |
# Oh Valentine # With a heart as black as white | :43:39. | :43:45. | |
# Through lonely eyes # With what you do | :43:45. | :43:50. |