09/03/2012 The Review Show


09/03/2012

Similar Content

Browse content similar to 09/03/2012. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!

Transcript


LineFromTo

We're back on Monday. On the review show tonight, Robert Pattinson

:00:27.:00:36.

swaps vam pieric virgins for - vampiric Virgins for Bel Ami. We

:00:36.:00:41.

talk about the fictional lives of sex offenders in the new book, Lost

:00:41.:00:46.

Memory Of Skin. Sex and society in the 18th century, a new exhibition

:00:46.:00:50.

by the Danish painter, Johan Zoffany, at the Royal Academy. And

:00:50.:00:55.

Stephen Mangan tells us about bringing Douglas Adams detective,

:00:55.:01:00.

Dirk Gently to the screen. Not pontificating over the he can

:01:00.:01:05.

electic election are John Mullan, professor of English at University

:01:05.:01:10.

College London, writer and stand-up comic, AL Kennedy, who has

:01:10.:01:15.

published six novels, most recently The Orange Prize nominated. The

:01:15.:01:18.

Blue Book, and Marcel Theroux, writer and broadcaster, whose

:01:18.:01:25.

latest book, Far North, is a futuristic novel set in Siberia.

:01:25.:01:29.

Good evening, we welcome your thoughts on the subjects, tweet us,

:01:29.:01:34.

we appreciate the feedback, most of it, at any rate. Tonight we start

:01:34.:01:42.

in Paris, in the mid-1800s, where an all-star cast, including Robert

:01:42.:01:46.

Pattinson and Christina Ricci, bring a tale of lust, adultery and

:01:46.:01:55.

ambition in Bel Ami. Set in decadant 1800s Paris, it is the

:01:55.:02:00.

story of George, played by Robert Pattinson, from ex-military upstart,

:02:00.:02:08.

to one of the richest and best connected men in Paris, by a series

:02:09.:02:14.

of mistresses. It has an impressive ensemble class. Ranging from big

:02:14.:02:19.

Hollywood hitters such as Uma Thurman, and Ricci, to respected

:02:19.:02:27.

British talent, Chris tin Scott Thomas, and Philip Glennster.

:02:27.:02:32.

is rotten with money, if you can't succeed here, lie down and die.

:02:32.:02:36.

film premier at the Berlin international film festival, and

:02:36.:02:40.

marks a debut for Declan Donnellan and Nick Ormerod, who worked

:02:40.:02:43.

together in theatre for more than 20 years, with their own company,

:02:43.:02:48.

Cheek By Jowl. Remarkably there were many things in common to the

:02:48.:02:53.

theatre. I think, in a sense, our skills in film separated very

:02:53.:02:58.

naturally. I looked after the visual side, the space, and Declan

:02:58.:03:02.

looks after the ablgtors, that is very much -- actors, that is very

:03:02.:03:07.

much how it works in theatre. Ami tackles theme as lust,

:03:07.:03:13.

deception and emotional abuse, with Pattinson decribing George as

:03:13.:03:17.

completely amoral. There is a thread of timeless political

:03:17.:03:21.

corruption and the manipulation of the media. It springs off the page,

:03:21.:03:26.

it is an incredibly strong, powerful, fascinating story about a

:03:26.:03:29.

fascinating character. It also has incredibly contemporary relevance,

:03:29.:03:33.

in that the whole political background is so up-to-the minute,

:03:33.:03:38.

it is almost laughable. Even since we finished shooting two years ago,

:03:38.:03:45.

the unrolling story of phone hacking, a corrupt media, seem

:03:45.:03:51.

minute-by-minute more and more relevent. So does Bel Ami hold a

:03:51.:03:56.

mirror from past to present predicaments, or merely a tale of

:03:56.:04:01.

debauchry in fabulous frocks. you want to be the man who put down

:04:01.:04:10.

the Government or do you want to be a fool?

:04:10.:04:16.

The directors said they wanted the contemporary subject of political

:04:16.:04:22.

intrigue to come to the fore. Did you find it part of the film?

:04:22.:04:29.

all takes place off screen. It is the Government involved in Algeria

:04:29.:04:34.

but they could have been dealing in orange juice futures, it is all off

:04:34.:04:38.

stage and it is talking, and you don't get a sense it is at the

:04:38.:04:42.

heart of the movie. The heart of the movie is this amoral character

:04:42.:04:46.

making his way in the world. He's supposed to be making his way up

:04:46.:04:49.

from poverty, at no point do you think he has ever been poor in his

:04:49.:04:56.

lie. You think it is a gap year student who might have had his cash

:04:56.:05:01.

card retained in Bangkok and is having lots of sex. The movie has

:05:01.:05:06.

great looking actors, and in lots of scenes they are not wearing

:05:06.:05:10.

clothes. Robert Pattinson was the central vehicle for him, this

:05:10.:05:13.

ensemble cast of beautiful people around him, does he hold the

:05:13.:05:16.

centre? I don't think he does, really. It is not entirely his

:05:16.:05:22.

fault, because it is very difficult, the point of the story is that it

:05:22.:05:29.

is told from Georges viewpoint, that is how De Maupassant tells it,

:05:29.:05:37.

not in his voice but his viewpoint. This heartless person is somebody

:05:37.:05:40.

into whose mind and appetites and sympathies you are drawn. Pattinson

:05:40.:05:45.

has to do it just by lots of close- ups of his face. And not

:05:45.:05:51.

surprisingly, he can't do it. It would take a really good actor to

:05:51.:05:54.

do it. Somebody says about him as a character, at some stage late in

:05:54.:05:58.

the film, there is nobody there. And a lot of the time that is the

:05:58.:06:03.

feeling you have. Did you feel that? No, I saw a different movie.

:06:03.:06:08.

I was tired and I had a headache and it was really late at night. No,

:06:08.:06:12.

I was very prepared to think that Pattinson couldn't carry it, he has

:06:12.:06:16.

very difficult scenes as you say, he has no lines, he just has to be.

:06:16.:06:21.

I got a real sense of his absolute desperate pursuit of just anything

:06:21.:06:25.

that would mean he could survive. It is not really a film about sex,

:06:25.:06:30.

and the sex isn't about sex it is about power. A lot of that power is

:06:31.:06:34.

taken by the women. That is the whole point, the women in the end

:06:34.:06:41.

have more power. They are fantastic. You have Uma Thurman, Christina

:06:41.:06:51.
:06:51.:06:52.

Ricci and Chris ten Scott Thomas, she has a more Kirsten Scott Thomas,

:06:52.:06:58.

she has a more difficult role. think Uma Thurman is great. I think

:06:58.:07:04.

Uma Thurman gives a confidently terrible performance. The scene

:07:04.:07:11.

where she turns the table on him, it sounds like it comes from the

:07:11.:07:14.

director's voice, there is this nullity of the Robert Pattinson

:07:14.:07:19.

character making his way, from scene-to-scene you don't know what

:07:19.:07:23.

he wants. You don't actually know in the end what he's actually

:07:23.:07:27.

driving towards? Sex, he gets plenty of it. What else does he

:07:27.:07:34.

want. He's happy in the first scene when someone gives him five bob and

:07:34.:07:38.

he can have sex with the prostitute, and then he's happy to go back to

:07:38.:07:42.

the decision. Not many actors would be prepared to be that thick. In

:07:42.:07:46.

the book he's thick, he does and says the wrong thing, he looks for

:07:46.:07:51.

the next thing and has no ambition. He has complicated feelings, and it

:07:51.:07:57.

is not that he's a brilliant Machiavellian figure in the book.

:07:57.:08:01.

There is no complication in the film. The whole point is that Uma

:08:01.:08:11.

Thurman, he's just a sieveer for Uma Thurman. Sypher for Uma Thurman.

:08:11.:08:16.

He doesn't care about anything, maybe they did the sociopath thing,

:08:16.:08:22.

there was a vacuum at the heart of the movie. This is the clip where

:08:22.:08:28.

Kirsten Scott Thomas, the final woman he seduces, and is being

:08:28.:08:33.

rejected by him. Take me with you, I need to talk to you. Remember

:08:33.:08:39.

where you are. You shouldn't have seduced me. You should have left me

:08:39.:08:43.

where I was, a happy and faithful wife. Please let me come with you.

:08:44.:08:48.

Please, just for an hour, I have something so important to tell you.

:08:48.:08:58.

Something to your advantage. It is about my husband. Kirsten Scott

:08:58.:09:02.

Thomas has got the depth to play this, and she plays the most

:09:02.:09:07.

difficult part? I find it difficult to watch her throwing her dignity

:09:07.:09:11.

away chasing after that ninny. is just a character. Where have you

:09:11.:09:16.

lived your life like that doesn't happen. He's the best looking

:09:16.:09:20.

member of the sixth form. I feel the sexual politics is at a school

:09:20.:09:25.

level, it never gets out. You have to feel with her, you have to feel

:09:25.:09:29.

that she's somebody whose dignity is destroyed. There has to be a

:09:29.:09:32.

really powerful force that makes her do that. He's very good looking,

:09:32.:09:36.

that is not enough. That is the tragedy of falling for somebody

:09:36.:09:39.

like that, who everybody around you knows it is bad news, still you go.

:09:39.:09:43.

That is what happens in life. about the direction, both the

:09:43.:09:49.

directors talk about spliting it up, they are very, very good on detail?

:09:49.:09:52.

The frocks are fantastic. We obviously disagrow about Uma

:09:52.:09:57.

Thurman. I think the direction, -- disagree about Uma Thurman. They

:09:57.:10:02.

are so concerned about how she comports herself, and the frocks

:10:02.:10:06.

and the amazing interiors, they are very, very lush, they have

:10:06.:10:10.

forgotten to talk about the part she's playing. I love that rb you

:10:10.:10:15.

see faces, there are people who -- you see faces, there are people who

:10:15.:10:20.

know about it, but you see the acting. It is very close up.

:10:20.:10:25.

That scene in the book is tremenduously moving, and his death

:10:25.:10:30.

is greatly moving. We are in this situation, we have Robert Pattinson,

:10:30.:10:34.

the Twilight crow, and mums and dads wanting to go -- crowd, and

:10:34.:10:39.

mums and dads wanting to go and they are saying I'm not sure you

:10:39.:10:43.

can go that? People saying you can't lose money with a film with

:10:43.:10:46.

Robert Pattinson in it. We haven't mentioned the script, that is the

:10:46.:10:49.

big hole in the film. The script doesn't move forward. You have no

:10:49.:10:54.

sense of his motivation, even if you did, even if you assume he's

:10:54.:10:57.

hungry for something, I don't know what it is, I don't know how he's

:10:57.:11:02.

going about getting it. It is because he's a young guy.

:11:02.:11:07.

script is insufficient. You notice the direction, the music, it is one

:11:07.:11:13.

of the films which seems to have music that desperately tries to

:11:13.:11:19.

impart drama that the script hasn't earned. I law a different movie.

:11:19.:11:26.

you would like to see -- I saw a different movie. Bel Ami is

:11:26.:11:32.

released today. Undersage sex and internet porn is hardly fodder for

:11:32.:11:38.

Richard and Judy's Book Club, but Johan Zoffany chose -- Russell

:11:38.:11:42.

Banks chose just those tough themes for his latest novel, The Lost

:11:42.:11:51.

Reflection. An unknown 22-year-old male, known as The Kid, is released

:11:51.:11:56.

from prison after committing a sex crime. He's forced to live in the

:11:56.:12:00.

Florida Causeway, one of the few places where convicted sex

:12:00.:12:06.

offenders are allowed to stay. Banks was inspired to write the

:12:06.:12:11.

book after seeing a group of offenders living below his

:12:11.:12:15.

apartment. The tunnel causeway crosss are from the mainland over

:12:15.:12:23.

to the Barrier Islands, Miami Beach. I could see the causeway, I decided

:12:23.:12:28.

to go and look in person and see who and what was there. It was a

:12:28.:12:32.

completely ragtag and bob tail of sex offenders? The Cheek By Jowl,

:12:32.:12:37.

you had serial rapists and some poor old drunk who maybe was

:12:37.:12:42.

arrested for urinating in a public place. You had this mixed bag of

:12:42.:12:47.

people, all of whom were essentially under permanent, on

:12:47.:12:52.

going surveillance. Your anti-hero is guilty of a sex offence, but

:12:52.:12:58.

still a virgin, he didn't physically touch anyone. Could you

:12:58.:13:01.

write this book about any other character, who was a legislature,

:13:01.:13:06.

who raped very young children? honest answer is I couldn't, this

:13:06.:13:10.

was the first time I felt myself blocked out. I couldn't get into

:13:10.:13:14.

his head. Not just because I didn't want to go there, but I didn't, I

:13:14.:13:19.

was unable to imagine what was on the other side of that man's face.

:13:19.:13:25.

I think it was because he had no remorse. If I can't feel affection

:13:25.:13:30.

for a character it is very difficult for me to get

:13:30.:13:35.

sufficiently intimate to write about a character. "the kid is no

:13:35.:13:39.

psychologist and has no insight into what make as sex offender

:13:39.:13:43.

offend. They are like chimps or neanderthals, who eventually would

:13:44.:13:48.

have evolved into normal human beings, if it weren't for their DNA

:13:48.:13:52.

having got scrambled some what. The kid wonders if all across America

:13:52.:13:57.

there is some kind of strange radioactive leakage, like from

:13:57.:14:02.

high-tension wires, or cellphones, or road and parking lot as falt,

:14:02.:14:11.

turning thousands of American men, young and old of all-races into sex

:14:11.:14:14.

offender, so instead of being attracted to women their own age,

:14:14.:14:22.

they are attracted to young girls and little children. "You pay no

:14:22.:14:26.

attention to the victim, why not? The victim has got plenty of

:14:26.:14:30.

attention elsewhere and by other writers and other media. For me I

:14:30.:14:33.

thought it was important to try to look at it from the point of view

:14:33.:14:42.

of the perp. Novelists have been doing that for 400 years now,

:14:42.:14:45.

looking at the world, not just through the point of view of the

:14:45.:14:48.

victim, but the point of view of the person who has hurt the victim.

:14:48.:14:52.

Alison, it is dark and distressing material he is writing about, he

:14:52.:14:56.

doesn't write about the darkest and most distressing of the characters,

:14:56.:15:03.

as he says himself, he can't do it? No, it is a strange book. I mean,

:15:03.:15:10.

word-for-word, the way he writes, he's a writer, he can do it. There

:15:10.:15:14.

are beautiful, descriptive passages, he talks about light coming off a

:15:14.:15:18.

building being chummed into the dark. He nailed it. I thought

:15:18.:15:22.

reading the first third of it, he has done a stunning book, the great

:15:22.:15:26.

American novel for this decade, he has nailed it, he cares about

:15:26.:15:31.

social issues, he's addressing where America is now, that it is so

:15:31.:15:34.

divided that people can be utterly cast out with a complete lack of

:15:34.:15:38.

justice. He's really going for it. Slowly he went further and further

:15:38.:15:43.

away, the two characters, the Kid, the sex offender and the Professor

:15:43.:15:48.

who comes in from outside. Professor, is essentially drawing

:15:48.:15:53.

the story out of the Kid? He's Watson. I found the Professor quite

:15:53.:15:58.

unbelievable for quite a lot of the time, and the Kid, I think, became

:15:58.:16:01.

less believable as things became more allegorical. There is a sense,

:16:01.:16:06.

this is to do with him trying to talk to America, that you are being

:16:06.:16:10.

shouted at any somebody who expects you to be not listening, and not

:16:10.:16:14.

sympathetic and not aware of shades of grey. He did say that he can't

:16:14.:16:17.

get inside the head of a character unless he has some sympathy with

:16:17.:16:22.

the character. In a sense, is that an Achilles heel with this book?

:16:22.:16:30.

is a bit. We must be careful with the plot, it does have a plot. But

:16:30.:16:34.

the particular offender, into sympathy with whom we have to be

:16:34.:16:43.

drawn, turns out, by my standards, not really to be a terribly

:16:43.:16:47.

challenging or worrying figure. In some ways the plot, he's actually

:16:47.:16:51.

treated rather unjustly, he has been treated rather unfairly. I

:16:51.:16:57.

agree with Alison, I think, this is really a sort of what, what the

:16:57.:17:00.

reference call a novel which has something specific to say. It is

:17:00.:17:05.

there in the title, Lost Memory of Skin. What it is saying is there is

:17:05.:17:10.

a kind of range of maladjustments which are created by people living

:17:10.:17:14.

virtually, and living just through the Internet and that's the cause

:17:14.:17:20.

of this person's sexual malaise. There difficult thing to write

:17:20.:17:25.

about would have been the humble character, or to write the Jonathan

:17:25.:17:28.

Little character, and the kindly ones, a difficult character guilty

:17:28.:17:32.

of terrible things? Yes, and I don't want to give too much away.

:17:32.:17:36.

He's struggling with his own, the author is struggling. I enjoyed the

:17:36.:17:41.

bok, it was three quarters of a terrific novel. He struggled with

:17:41.:17:47.

the character of the Professor. To me it is hukle berry fin with a

:17:47.:17:53.

massive porn collection. The kid is actually a very resourceful heroic

:17:53.:17:56.

character, and you don't know what he has done and you want to like

:17:56.:18:01.

him. In terms of plot and structure it moves really well. It is well

:18:01.:18:07.

paced. The pacing is nice. The description works really well, with

:18:07.:18:13.

the way the description is paced. I sthout it was a terrific craft -- I

:18:13.:18:17.

thought it was a terrific craftsman the writer. In the last pit about

:18:17.:18:22.

of the book he's wrestling with the revulsion and what it means for the

:18:22.:18:28.

character. Margaret Atwood says he's the writer of the dark side

:18:28.:18:33.

about the dark side. But he turned away. Essentially what he says it

:18:33.:18:39.

means is The Most Memory of Skin, is about the Internet, where nobody

:18:39.:18:43.

makes connections with each other. He's down on the Internet and down

:18:43.:18:47.

on parenting in the same way. He said he thought the problems with

:18:47.:18:51.

parenting in America is really bad? There is this peculiar thing which

:18:51.:18:56.

seems to me rather sort of evasively done about the Kid's

:18:56.:19:00.

relationship with his mother. She is basically, she is a single mum

:19:00.:19:05.

who has brought him up, in his head, and he moves around inside people's

:19:05.:19:09.

heads just as he wants to. In a rather dismaying way, sometimes. In

:19:09.:19:14.

his head the bid thinks she has been a good mum to me -- the Kid

:19:14.:19:19.

thinks she has been a good mum. But with her being promiscuous, there

:19:19.:19:24.

is a connection, when she's having it off with her boyfriends, he

:19:24.:19:28.

turns to pornography. There seems to be some sort of narrative link.

:19:28.:19:33.

He has a fairly bog standard slightly neglected childhood. You

:19:33.:19:37.

know that you can't necessarily trust what he's saying, or indeed

:19:37.:19:42.

what anybody is saying, which ultimately becomes difficult,

:19:42.:19:46.

because everybody is unhelpful, and looking at the author, helplessly

:19:46.:19:50.

unreliable. You kind of drift into fantasy. When he's trying to

:19:50.:19:55.

address something that is terribly real and he's passionate about.

:19:55.:20:00.

Professor is given slabs of theory to think. He doesn't say them.

:20:00.:20:07.

Those are surely Russell Banks theory. Who is to say about

:20:07.:20:11.

pornography and the Internet, and the extent to which we are

:20:11.:20:14.

inundated with pornography. In previous centuries nobody would see

:20:14.:20:18.

the numbers of images of naked people, people engaged in different

:20:18.:20:26.

sexual acts with the click of a mouse you can see them. The book is,

:20:26.:20:29.

perhaps heavyhandedly towards the end about the loss of innocence and

:20:29.:20:33.

the serpent in the garden of Eden? There is a lot about that.

:20:33.:20:38.

whole idea he has set out with a thesis, and interesting what you

:20:38.:20:45.

were talking about Steinbeck, he does it in a more imaginative way.

:20:45.:20:49.

Russell Banks will talk about the disadvantage in America, endlessly.

:20:49.:20:53.

The thing that wo take it beyond the thesis is really -- would take

:20:53.:20:57.

it beyond the thesis is really engaging with both people, it

:20:57.:21:00.

becomes natural and organic. Because he is, as he says locked

:21:00.:21:06.

out of both them. There is a lyricism of it, and a buetyo in it,

:21:06.:21:11.

there is a lyrical -- beauty of it, there is a lyrical quality. There

:21:11.:21:18.

is lost people, a Lord of the Flies, and Coral Island, Ien joyed the

:21:18.:21:24.

book. Before we finish -- I enjoyed the book. Before we finish, let's

:21:24.:21:29.

talk about the six-foot character that slithers along the road. The

:21:29.:21:35.

boy is so attached to the Ig uana that his mother smuggled into the

:21:35.:21:41.

country when he was a baby. There are some really good bits of

:21:41.:21:44.

description, when Russell Banks for a second forgets what he's writing

:21:44.:21:50.

about and writes. One of the great bits is when he gets the pet ig

:21:50.:21:55.

uana and it bites hard on his hand, and they have to go to hospital to

:21:55.:21:59.

get it off, and they want to kill it. It is the most intimate thing

:21:59.:22:04.

that happens to him. It is the memory of skin. The family portrait

:22:04.:22:10.

these days is likely to be a snapshot. 300 years ago it was a

:22:10.:22:18.

paint brush, easal and outfits glol lor. German painter, Johan Zoffany

:22:18.:22:23.

was a big noise in London, to imhas not been so kind to his legacy. A

:22:23.:22:33.
:22:33.:22:39.

new exhibition at the Royal Academy I think it is a great moment for

:22:39.:22:43.

Zoffany, there hasn't been an exhibition since the 1970. Most

:22:43.:22:49.

won't know him. He's unlike Gainsborough, Reynolds, we know

:22:49.:22:55.

them well, but he's a discovery. Charles N'Zogbia arrived in a

:22:56.:23:00.

bustling London -- Johan Zoffany arrived in bustling London and made

:23:00.:23:05.

his way into society. A sexual adventure and timeless, he had an

:23:05.:23:08.

eye for British aristocracy and the capital's institutions. He looks at

:23:08.:23:11.

the world very much as an independent thinker, with a great

:23:11.:23:15.

deal of intelligence, and as an outsider, you always get the

:23:15.:23:19.

feeling that Zoffany is something of a fly-on-the-wall. He takes a

:23:19.:23:24.

view on society, on art, on traditions, that are quite

:23:24.:23:29.

individual, sometimes quite eccentric.

:23:29.:23:34.

When Zoffany first came to London he was taken up by David Garrick,

:23:34.:23:39.

the great actor and theatre manager, it was through that Zoffany first

:23:39.:23:46.

gained his own celebrity in England. He was also taken up by George III

:23:46.:23:52.

and Queen Charlotte. It was through their patronage he painted these

:23:52.:23:56.

informal, domestic portraits. Arranged by theme and featuring 60

:23:56.:24:02.

oil paintings and a small selection of drawings and prints. Society

:24:02.:24:07.

Observed is Zoffany's depiction of the rarified life at court, the

:24:07.:24:12.

tricky arristok circumstance and his work inspired by his exotic

:24:12.:24:18.

travels from Italy to India. The A Christmas Trifle is possibly

:24:18.:24:28.
:24:28.:24:30.

Zoffany's most celebrated picture. -- the tryna -- We have grand

:24:30.:24:36.

tourists ogling Venus, not because she's an art object, but a sex

:24:36.:24:43.

object too. It is a very wry look at society. While Zoffany's

:24:43.:24:47.

detailed portrayal of the upper echelons of British society hold

:24:47.:24:51.

many historians spell bound, will this overlooked and unsung artist

:24:51.:24:57.

manage to pull in the punters. It is amazing, the Royal Academy,

:24:57.:25:02.

you have these massive queues for Hockney, and not so much for

:25:02.:25:07.

Zoffany. But there is so much to see in the small space it exists in.

:25:07.:25:10.

I hope lots of people discover Zoffany through this. He is tucked

:25:10.:25:16.

away. It is hard to find it. I think it is a wonderful little

:25:16.:25:23.

exhibition. It really justifies the things being said there about his

:25:23.:25:32.

interest. He's not a deep pierceer of the human soul, but there is

:25:32.:25:39.

enough zest, and glisening clutter of 18th century polite life to

:25:39.:25:48.

amuse and entertain any viewer. He arrives and David Garrick takes him

:25:48.:25:53.

up. It is a chance to paint this huge array of David Garrick himself

:25:53.:25:58.

and unlocks other areas? He seems to have known everyone and gone

:25:58.:26:01.

everywhere, you get his penalty through the exhibition. It is like

:26:01.:26:05.

a photo journalist being unleashed through the 18th century, and

:26:05.:26:15.
:26:15.:26:15.

taking it on. He's interested in what people are wearing, what they

:26:15.:26:20.

clean their shoes on. Then he goes to India, and suddenly you are in

:26:20.:26:23.

this extraordinary landscape and he's recording that as well. It

:26:23.:26:28.

feels like you have gone into a time machine and come out. You like

:26:28.:26:33.

the Indian ones? It is an extraordinary time. The East Indian

:26:33.:26:37.

Company is in flow. These Masters of the Universe travelling out

:26:37.:26:40.

there to make their fortune. And Zoffany is obviously in with them

:26:40.:26:45.

and doing pictures of him, this is a cock fight he's doing one of

:26:45.:26:49.

these group portraits. All the different personalities, they are

:26:49.:26:54.

arguing about the cock. So full of, so vibrant, I didn't know there was

:26:54.:26:57.

a record of this. What is great, this particular, there is a lot of

:26:58.:27:00.

them, but the stories they tell within the paintings, that you have

:27:00.:27:04.

to be in the know, and you know you can imagine the whole, particularly

:27:04.:27:12.

in the London ones as well, all the stories going round about who is

:27:12.:27:15.

sitting beside whom in the paintings and what the hand going

:27:15.:27:21.

down there really means? He's a master of that, he's so lively, and

:27:21.:27:28.

he's intoxicated by the livingness of the people. There is a guy in

:27:28.:27:33.

one embracing this young, slightly worried looking boy. There is a

:27:33.:27:37.

Redcoat with obviously his Indian mistress, there is sexual politics

:27:37.:27:44.

going on between the colonel and others. It is so alive. He was

:27:44.:27:47.

doing this, he was doing it for money. Obviously he would be

:27:47.:27:50.

offending some people and not others, depending on the painting?

:27:50.:27:54.

The money is part of the juice of it. He comes to London because of

:27:54.:27:58.

the money. He starts off he's going to be a history painting and paint

:27:59.:28:02.

biblical subjects. He goes to Rome, to learn how to. Thank God he

:28:02.:28:12.

didn't do that? He sees these milordy, and he thinks, London.

:28:12.:28:16.

London in the 18th century, you get the impression that England and

:28:16.:28:24.

London was this vibrant place fuelled by cash. Because the

:28:24.:28:30.

Hanover ians are coming, here you have Zoffany, a fellow German, and

:28:30.:28:35.

George takes him to his bossom. Whether he's painting the Royal

:28:35.:28:41.

Family or nay bobs, you get this wonderful mixture, he's doing his

:28:41.:28:46.

job, getting paid and serving these rich people. He's not mocking them.

:28:46.:28:50.

He's naughty. He's mischievous as well as doing his bit. He haven't

:28:50.:28:58.

actually got an impage of it, there is him dressed as -- image of it,

:28:58.:29:04.

there is him dressed as a friar, with condoms hoind it? You have a

:29:04.:29:08.

Madonna and child on the front and on the back there is him dressing-

:29:08.:29:14.

up as a friar to go out to the night. There is a Tyneyo thing in

:29:14.:29:19.

the back of it -- tiny thing in the back there is a friar being tempted

:29:19.:29:28.

by naked ladies. He has fun with the painting. He's there, he's

:29:28.:29:33.

trying to flog a paint he sold, the Madonna. This gets him in trouble,

:29:33.:29:43.

the sense of naughty nis, the in the Uffizi painting you see them

:29:43.:29:51.

staring at the bum, and a notorious homosexual pointing and doing those

:29:51.:29:55.

things. Queen Charlotte was so offended he got no subsequent.

:29:55.:29:59.

fingers going up to the two guys wrestling. The gentleman with the

:29:59.:30:04.

green coat and the gentleman standing behind him has a startled

:30:04.:30:07.

expression. It is a mad painting, one of the things he was brilliant

:30:07.:30:10.

at was painting people's, he painted people's possessions, he

:30:10.:30:14.

painted people's art works. There is several paintings where actually

:30:14.:30:18.

there is a painting within the painting, he renders them

:30:18.:30:25.

beautifully. There is amazing Dutch sea scenes owned by Lord Dundos,

:30:25.:30:30.

there he is with his grandson, that one the scene is immpossibly full

:30:30.:30:36.

of stuff and people. Also, the idea that some of the Scottish paintings,

:30:36.:30:41.

and the Scottish aristocracy, obviously they spent a lot of time

:30:41.:30:46.

in London. The Drummond family is painted in London by Zoffany, but

:30:46.:30:51.

someone takes the painting north and a Scottish painter fills in the

:30:51.:30:54.

background. I'm sure he would have loved to come up, maybe he didn't

:30:54.:31:00.

have the time. He went to Calcutta, that took a while. You get the

:31:00.:31:08.

sense at the end of a very full life. It is very moving, in the end

:31:08.:31:14.

you have a doddery, his eyesight is failing, he has dementia, he has

:31:14.:31:24.

been a biggest, he has lost a son. You -- big ga mist, he has lost a

:31:24.:31:30.

son. The David and Golaith, it is coquettish? If I could adopt that

:31:30.:31:40.
:31:40.:31:42.

position my life would be very, very different. You can see why

:31:42.:31:50.

history paintings was no much fun. It is a gland there, I don't know

:31:50.:31:56.

what it is? It looks like a gland broken off a penis. One more of

:31:56.:31:59.

Zoffany's jokes. It was in tune of those he was painting. He wasn't

:31:59.:32:06.

having a go at him, it gives you sense these were sophisticated and

:32:06.:32:10.

witty people. A Society Observed is on at the Royal Academy until the

:32:10.:32:16.

10th June. This weekend would have been the 60th birthday of writers

:32:16.:32:25.

Douglas Adams, after a successful pilot, it seems timely that Dirk

:32:25.:32:29.

Gently is back on BBC Four, reunited Stephen Mangan and Darren

:32:29.:32:35.

Boyd. Why do you think it is a bomb. I didn't say it was, I said it was

:32:35.:32:38.

a suspicious package. If we think it is a bomb we should call the

:32:38.:32:43.

bomb squad. It could be the local bomb squad who sent it to me,

:32:43.:32:48.

accidentally kill a man's wife and he might thank me, accidentally

:32:48.:32:56.

combust a man's sniffer dog and you will give never forgive you. Dirk

:32:56.:33:01.

gets his theories from quantum physics, it makes for a tricky

:33:01.:33:06.

process. He's not one to hone down on the fine details of finger

:33:06.:33:10.

prints and boring things like evidence. Douglas Adams, the

:33:10.:33:16.

originate for of hitch hiker's guide to the galaxy, died at the

:33:16.:33:21.

age of 49, his peculiarly British way of writing science fiction

:33:21.:33:25.

introduced the genre to a British audience. There is a lot of ideas

:33:25.:33:32.

in the book, the ideas of us as a nation, our foibles, our paradoxs.

:33:32.:33:36.

In his humour you are always looking to translate. It is a fine

:33:36.:33:41.

line, they are detective shows, you want an element of drama, Spence

:33:41.:33:45.

and tension. It is an interesting conundrum when you are filming, how

:33:45.:33:49.

much do you go for the comedy and the drama. Our director, Tom

:33:49.:33:56.

Shankland, has shot the three episodes as dramas. Rather than

:33:56.:34:00.

adapting the original text verbatum, the writing team have taken a more

:34:00.:34:05.

fluid approach to the scripts? books as written are almost

:34:05.:34:09.

unfilmable. Trying to turn them into a neat, one-hour television

:34:09.:34:12.

with a beginning, milledle and end and a story that is -- middle and

:34:13.:34:17.

end, and a story that is self- contained, is impossible. You

:34:17.:34:23.

wouldn't do justice to the books with that. Who is sending me a

:34:23.:34:28.

Valentine's card in April, what has led this woman to fall complete low

:34:28.:34:32.

and hopelessly in love with me. Will this latest TV installment of

:34:32.:34:39.

an Adams text, assuage the concerns of his fan base, or is it an

:34:39.:34:46.

abridgement too far. We have had the one episode, two

:34:46.:34:51.

more to come. In 2010 when they made the pilot on this, on BBC Four

:34:51.:35:01.
:35:01.:35:02.

it got three quarters of a million. There is no question of doing a

:35:02.:35:06.

series. They are funny physical comedians, the pilot you are

:35:06.:35:11.

referring to was the most successful effort. It was a cheaper

:35:11.:35:15.

and shonky thing, blowing it up it has become more glossy, it has lost

:35:15.:35:19.

some of the charm the pilot had. It is the struggle Stephen Mangan says

:35:19.:35:23.

you have, it is essentially how do you turn Douglas Adams, essentially

:35:23.:35:28.

a huge brain, coming up with flights of fancy for its own

:35:28.:35:31.

amusement, how do you make 60 minutes of TV out of that. I think

:35:31.:35:37.

it is impossible. The thing to do would be to make it funny. I don't

:35:37.:35:41.

think there is enough jokes in it. Do you think the spirit of Douglas

:35:41.:35:44.

Adams is alive in this? I don't think he has much to do with

:35:44.:35:50.

Douglas Adams. I enjoyed it, has a lot to do with past Taoiseachs of

:35:50.:35:59.

things we are used to -- pastiches of things we are used to. Pastiches

:35:59.:36:09.
:36:09.:36:09.

of Sherlock, Spooks and Doctor Who. It is entertaining rips and par

:36:09.:36:15.

December on some of the cliches of detective -- parody on some of the

:36:15.:36:20.

cliches on detective and drama like Sherlock. I think you are riot,

:36:20.:36:24.

Darren Boyd and Stephen Mangan are ter -- right, Darren Boyd and

:36:24.:36:26.

Stephen Mangan are terrific together, you want them to build

:36:26.:36:30.

the relationship over a longer period of time? For me it didn't

:36:30.:36:40.

make me laugh. I felt it wanted to and was trying to. It is low-energy

:36:40.:36:44.

and drawing the oxygen out of it, you have Stephen Mangan, not high

:36:44.:36:48.

energy either, up against the dramas you have mentioned. We have

:36:48.:36:52.

a high-energy, central figure, who carries one of theseam belief lent

:36:52.:37:00.

things, is he a genius -- ambivalent things, is he a genius

:37:00.:37:03.

or not at all In a drama you have to care about the characters, do

:37:03.:37:09.

they care about the characters, or are they all puppets, an hour is a

:37:09.:37:14.

long time to spend with puppets. is dark in episode two? They were

:37:14.:37:23.

trying to open it up emotionally. I noticed because you have Bill

:37:23.:37:29.

Pattinson coming in, suddenly a different approach to acting, a

:37:29.:37:35.

more dramatic approach to acting, it thraers -- flares up and that

:37:35.:37:40.

seems to do more. Maybe it is because it has this conceit, all

:37:40.:37:44.

parts of direction unknown to these. That is fine and silly, but it

:37:45.:37:49.

seems to me, however Silvio the plot, it should have had -- silly

:37:49.:37:53.

the plot, it should have had a silly logical. It should have been

:37:53.:38:00.

logical at some point? The trouble is. A witness box web of

:38:00.:38:04.

interconnecting events? I don't think Douglas Adams is a profound

:38:04.:38:09.

thinker. Steady, steady. everything is connected it becomes

:38:09.:38:16.

a meaningless thing. It is these kinds of things. That is the thing

:38:17.:38:26.

I really missed, Douglas Adams was a very serious writer, he did very

:38:26.:38:28.

melodious dialogue. He cared about the human commission and was

:38:28.:38:31.

compassionate and dark in some of the ideas he did. None that have

:38:31.:38:36.

was there. He had a real focus, it was insane, but he was really

:38:36.:38:40.

focused on how terrible human beings could be and they needed to

:38:40.:38:44.

be saved from themselves. Read Douglas Adams if you can, the first

:38:44.:38:48.

episode is on the iPlayer, episode two is on Monday.

:38:48.:38:55.

Today marked the beginning of Glasgow's festival, Aye Write, it

:38:55.:39:05.
:39:05.:39:07.

features a host of talent, with Natalie Haines and Alex Preston and

:39:07.:39:13.

MartyFeldman. We thought it would be rude not to ask Karen Cunningham

:39:13.:39:18.

about the best of the festival. aim to bring the best of Scottish

:39:18.:39:21.

writing to the city. We are not like any other book festival, we

:39:21.:39:27.

are based in the Mitchell Library, one of Europe's largest reference

:39:27.:39:31.

libraries. It is a fantastic cultural programme, people are

:39:31.:39:37.

finding it harder to engage with the formal political process, so it

:39:37.:39:41.

is coming to a book festival like Aye Write gives them an opportunity

:39:41.:39:46.

to debate, to discuss, to argue, and to be there with like-minded

:39:46.:39:51.

people. One of our events this year is Scotland's book shelf, which is

:39:51.:39:55.

mass reading campaign. We will have 20,000 copies of a free book to

:39:55.:40:01.

give away, and a free downloadable e bok available, that will

:40:01.:40:06.

encourage people to -- e-book, available that will encourage

:40:06.:40:09.

people to read about Scotland's heritage. We have managed to bring

:40:09.:40:18.

in a last-minute event, that is John Ashton's book on Al-Megrahi,

:40:18.:40:24.

and we know it will be a particular relevance to a Scottish audience.

:40:24.:40:28.

One of the special events at Aye Write we are bringing together for

:40:29.:40:36.

the first time. The three Poet Laureates, from Wales, Scotland and

:40:36.:40:39.

the UK laureate, they all happen to be women, that will be a really

:40:39.:40:44.

special event. Aye Write runs until the 17th of

:40:44.:40:47.

March, that is all we have time for, don't forget to look at the website.

:40:47.:40:52.

We are looking forward to the literary riches on display by way

:40:52.:40:57.

of Twitter. Thanks to my guests. Next week we will be reviewing the

:40:57.:41:03.

new ITV series, Titanic, the latest crime fiction phantom, with guests

:41:03.:41:13.
:41:13.:41:13.

including historian BettanHug hes and Ian Rankin. Taking us into the

:41:14.:41:17.

interview is another BBC Introducing acts, this time it is

:41:17.:41:24.

Dear Prudence with Valentine. # I want to place

:41:24.:41:29.

# Always out to die # The colours blink

:41:29.:41:35.

# And leave me black # Do I know

:41:35.:41:44.

# Filling every corner of my mind # I know that you hear it too

:41:44.:41:51.

# Valentine # With a heart as black as white

:41:51.:41:59.

# Through lonely eyes # We watch you from the outside

:41:59.:42:08.

# Valentine # Just let the roses die

:42:08.:42:13.

# Keep us alive # And I will keep you safe

:42:13.:42:18.

# My Valentine # Dear heart

:42:18.:42:25.

# The missing page # In the golden fairytale

:42:25.:42:31.

# A memory to thank to tell # Why

:42:31.:42:38.

# Those dancing # Whispers in the dark

:42:38.:42:45.

# But I know that you see them too # Valentine

:42:45.:42:52.

# With a heart as black as white # Through lonely eyes

:42:52.:42:58.

# With worlds from outside # Valentine

:42:58.:43:06.

# And just let the roses die # Keep us alive

:43:06.:43:15.

# And I'll keep you safe # My Valentine

:43:15.:43:19.

# Lips fade # On the fringes

:43:19.:43:24.

# On sidelines # I'll hold you close

:43:24.:43:33.

# And we can disappear # Oh oh oh

:43:33.:43:39.

# Oh Valentine # With a heart as black as white

:43:39.:43:45.

# Through lonely eyes # With what you do

:43:45.:43:50.

Download Subtitles

SRT

ASS