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On the review show tonight: Glenn Close's Oscar-nominated turn

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as a cross-dressing butler in the movie, Albert Nobbs. Cate

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Blanchett's dramatic return to London theatre in Big And Small.

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Novelist and playwright Michae Frayn's new book, which moves farce

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from stage to page. And Glee for grown ups, Smash, the latest hit

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musical series from the states. Plus, Richard Wright, Wolfgang

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Tillmans and Jeremy Deller, retour the Glasgow festival of

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contemporary art. Joining me in the studio to discuss all of this, are

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critic, jourpblgist and author of the book, Words and Music, the one

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and only, Paul Morley, broadcaster and former lecturer at Oxford

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University, Susan Hitch, prolific author and documentary maker,

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Marcel Theroux. We will also have live music from

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Rae Morris, specially selected for us by BBC Introducing, as ever you

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are welcome to join in conversation if you are on Twitter. Glenn Close

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is one of the leading actions of her generation, much lauded for

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Fatal Attraction and and as the ruthless lawyer, Patti Hewes in the

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hit series Damages. Her latest outing on the screen, Albert Nobbs,

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has resulted in an Oscar nomination, her sixth, and has been 30 years in

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the making. What is your name? Albert. Your real name? Albert.

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Playing the role of Albert Nobbs has been a labour of love for Glenn

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Close, a relationship which began when she performed the character of

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the hard-working butler, at the start of her career in 1982, in an

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off Broadway production in a play The life of Albert Nobbs. She now

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reprices the role directed by Rodrigo Garcia. Set in 19th century

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Dublin, in Morris's Hotel, Nobbs is one of a team of servants, Nobbs

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has a closely guarded secret, Nobbs is a woman. And has been

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masquerading to escape a brutal and impoverished existence. Having

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hidden her true idea fee for so many years, Nobbs has ambitions to

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escape service. Something she confides to a hotel guest, played

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by Brendan Gleeson. I have been thinking I might purchase a little

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business. A business, fancy that. What kind of a business? Perhaps a

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little shop. What kind of a shop? I'm thinking, maybe tobacco.

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Pauline Collins and Brenda Fricker make up the strong ensemble cast,

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also made up of an unrecoginsable Janet McTeer, whose character is

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married to a painter, with much more in common with Albert than

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Albert realises. Mr Page is working in the morning, and is looking for

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bad, I have told him he can go in with you tonight? With me, mam?

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Mr Nobbs, with you. But. What are you trying to say? My bed is full

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of lumps. Albert's quest for a better life is

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complicated by the courtship of Helen, a maid in the hotel, also

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forging her own escape from servitude, encouraged by her lover,

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Joe. Does Albert Nobbs add up to more than outstanding performances

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by two of the world's leading actresses. I could live here like

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Kathleen. Neither of us would be alone.

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Susan, did you feel you were engaged in this extraordinary

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story? I felt I was engaged by some of it. The emotional heart of it is

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the hotel household, and above all, the lesbian household. Which is

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Janet McTeer, as Hugh, and the young woman that she has set up as

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her wife. That is extraordinary, that is a real relationship, it is

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the only one on offer in the film. Did you think that Glenn Close's

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character, Albert Nobbs, it was almost so restrained, that you

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needed Janet McTeer to bring some he can sub regins. She was a more -

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- exuburance? You wanted her to be the heroine of the film. At times

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Glenn Close was in a slightly different movie to everyone else.

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The movie was naturalistic, and Rodrigo Garcia is that kind of

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director, but she was a grotesque figure. Because you didn't know her

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back story, it was one of terrible abuse and rape, you didn't

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understand why she was so restrained and repressed? It is a

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queer kettle of fish this film, I wonder if at the heart of it is

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Glenn Close's character, but some how he seems to have no heart, and

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you can't work out what sympathy you may or may not have with this

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character. Janet McTeer, in one sense, completely dominates the

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film. In another way, that is character that Glenn Close is

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playing, that she is a shadow. locking at the story itself, the

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literary heritage of this, Garcia himself, and others were involved

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in it, a great heritage? There are traces of that remaining, combined

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with traces of period drama. They are problematic, they have made it

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much too little, they don't trust the medium, it is all overwritten.

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Part of what goes wrong with the Glenn Close character, is she acts

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it, and then she says it, she is given an enormous numbers of

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speeches, trust it, she is a good actor, there is enough in the can

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for that film for them to have made a slightly different and much

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better film, cutting it differently A less stylised film, without the

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speeches, there was a trace of a one-woman show inside. She did it

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interestingly enough as a play first, that was the way she was

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approaching, it, where everybody else around her was naturalistic.

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The ensemble was terrific? It was brilliant, the look of the film is

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beautiful. The begin something brilliant as the hotel wakes up for

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breakfast, glos glees is -- Gleeson is amazing. And it doesn't turn out

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and as Upstairs Downstairs Downton Abbey. Loved it, it was not done in

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a cliched way, when I talk about the film it sounds like I'm

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thinking it is a masterpiece, but in the end I'm not drawn to it.

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are not allowed to say about the end? My feelings. From the nef

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vessel la, they have had to do -- novella, to fill the Hollywood

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three-act structure they have had to fill the story. The story comes

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from novella written in the 1980s, it is thought it was based on a

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real character, there were so many secrets in -- 1880s, it is thought

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it was based on a real character, there were so many secrets in

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Ireland, and it is not beyond that a you would bind yourself up to get

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a job. It is true it may be that Albert Nobbs is a real character.

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There is the wonderful scene on the beach, two women usually dressed as

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men are suddenly dressed in women's clothes, Hubert Page is there

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looking like Les Dawson in a dress, and Glenn Close looking like she

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might become herself in a dress, she did briefly, and then she falls

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over. It is the perfect metaphor, it tells you about her not being

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able to become a woman and the ordinary discomfort of the clothe,

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and the ambiguous sexuality. She doesn't understand her sexuality,

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she doesn't get it about Janet McTeer, Hubert Page and her real

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loving house hole. There is this comic thing about trying to find a

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wife, and wondering if she will tell her before or after the

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wedding that she's a woman. I love there was a lovely notion of

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secrets, there are so many secrets, that the little childlike something

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out of The Others, can look up and realise both these men are women.

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It is good they have built skeets into the lives of the other --

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secrets into the lives of the other characters. You thought it would be

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Albert Nobbs and then it all fades into the background. I'm thinking

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the reason why the film doesn't come off well. We are talking about

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a great film, it isn't quite a great film, I wonder at the heart

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of it is it can't get away from being a pet project. As much as

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there is the ensemble and the great locations. It needs slicing. Glenn

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Close's accent. I feel like to me that was also part of the accent

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wandering somewhere across the Irish see, back to south London,

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the East End and back again. You know, it feels mean spirited to

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quibble, but with a film like that you have to be seduced to buy the

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whole package. It is 48 hours since I have seen it, and it has stayed

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with me, I think McTeer as Hubert Page is the most beautiful thing I

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have seen. It is a shame to quibble, it could have been unbelievable.

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could have been unbelievable, if you want to quibble, you ought to

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see it yourself, Albert Nobbs is in cinemas next Friday. As we heard,

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Glenn Close spent 30 years getting her character from stage to skron,

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now a fellow Hollywood star is concentrating on her theatrical

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roots. Cate Blanchett has returned to the London stage for the first

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time in 30 years, the star of Elizabeth and The Aviator,

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Blanchett, along with her husband, is co-director of the Sydney

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Theatre Company, transfering from the bark can from Australia, Big

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And Small is a transfer of the work of --

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Blanchett's character is Lotte, a graphic designer who has separated

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from her husband, and who is in the grip of an emotional breakdown. At

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first she seems to deal well with the he is strangement, but as she

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journeys through Germany, she encounters repeated rejection,

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rather than the human contact and affection she craves. Part

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philosophical inquiry, part road movie, the play examines themes of

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despair, disconnectedness, and dissatisfaction, and appears to

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offer a depressing view of a soulless society. And with Cate

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Blanchett on stage for almost the entire performance, and with a

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running time of almost three hours, it sounds like a gruelling

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experience for both her and her audience. But does Blanchett's

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portrayal of a woman in crisis transfix rather than depress? Let's

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talk about the play in a moment, first of all we are talking about

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all these fantastic actresses abounding tonight. Cate Blanchett,

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her ability to command the stage, it is almost three hours she's on

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for? And it is OK. Considering what the play is, as such, it starts

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with a line that could have come from hamlet, it ends with a line

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that could have come from Beckett, in the middle is like Alice In

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Wonderland. She's journeying through what is essentially an

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Alice In Wonderland series of events and things that happen. At

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times it verges on clownish, at times it verges on she could be

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speaking a series of things we have given her to say. It is almost an

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extraordinary enthralling demonstration of technique, above

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anything else. It is amazing, and beyond anything else, you are

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basically watching Cate Blanchett do this. You can't get away from

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that. Can you get beyond the idea that the technique is amazing and

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she goes through all these different kinds of acting and

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scenes? It is not just her, the ensemble is really amazing and the

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staging is really amazing. When I saw it there there was a standing

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ovation at the end. To me I don't think the play is very good. I

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think it is a play from the 1970s, it is rooted in those times. There

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is a sense of alienation making sense when there was two Germans,

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and the red army was over -- Germans, and the red army faction

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was blowing up people in west Germany, I found it baffling and

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incomprehensible a lot of it. Her performance was what kept me in the

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theatre. Her performance made sense of it. There is so much of about

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that 1978 world not recoginsable for us any more. For women as well?

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Especially for women. There is a sense that this is the wrong tool

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for dealing with the difficulty of our world. It is this absurdism,

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that was 1978, we do irony and satire. That is what gets us. What

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you have here is something that doesn't make sense until she does

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something total low recoginsable through it, that is part of the

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brilliance -- totally recoginsable through it, that is part of the

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brilliance. You talked about a terrific ensemble, with her

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commanding the stage, could it have been done in a different way?

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should have been a one-woman-show. You could lose everything else,

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without a problem. It would be wonderful. We have seen two

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vehicles, Glenn Close in Albert Nobbs, that wasn't a vehicle at all,

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it was a proper ensemble piece, even if it was a bit skewed. This

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one you want to slice it away with a one woman show at the heart of it.

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I would Putin her in a different vehicle. Glenda Jackson did it in

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the 1980s and people walked out. With another actress in the role it

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wouldn't have worked. If you take away the celebrity aspect, that is

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the essence of it, there is many things about this play that people

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would be squealing in horror and walking out. Even at the Barbican!

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What it enables Cate Blanchett to do is be extraordinary, we are

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allowing it to be. So I thought of it as a one woman show, in way,

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even though there is the ensemble, I thought it was a one woman show,

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she's always there in tense different settings. The whole idea

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is this playwright is talking about angst and break-up of relationships

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and alienation. Unfortunately this thing, which is drained away by two

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or three translations, by the feel of it, it becomes merely the

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backdrop of Cate Blanchett to demonstrate how extraordinary she

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is. The whole thing seemed to be leaning towards the inevitable

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standing ovation, which she delivers, out of character, and yet

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in character. We don't know if we have just been watching three hours

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of Blanchett because in way she's still that character. There

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something interest about where she found that character, I found it

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enormously recoginsable because it is about the excessive enthusiasm,

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and eagerness to please of the outsider at school. It is not the

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geek outsider, the one person she makes a friendship at a bus stop,

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but the one trying too hard to please and puppy like, you found

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that, that makes an actress does it. Going to the old school friend she

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hadn't seen since she was 13, and she was humiliated again. She comes

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out of that scene with the school friend becoming heir ter kal

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illness, -- hysterical illness, with a whooping cough-like terrible

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breath, she has absorbed it from her school friend. What dominates

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your mind, is what drew her to this, what does she think it is doing for

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her. What it is doing for her is ultimately an A to Z of how great

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she is. It was a three-hour by star solo, had you to admire the

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musician and all that, but do you want to sit through three hours of

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somebody playing Purple Haze. was the amazing bow they take.

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There was all sorts of things, wrestling with God in a sequined

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suit. She's physically very flamboyant, very appealing.

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play throws up the possibility it might be religious, extension,

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political, and then it is just all -- existential, political, but it

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is all just about Blanchett. can catch it at the Barbican.

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Michae Frayn has enjoyed a glittering career in theatre,

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fiction and journalism, with a seemless ability to sash shai

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between formal to the comedic. His award-winning farce, Noises Off, is

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enjoying a revival in the West End 30 years after it first premer ined,

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his first novel in a decade brings farce from stage to page.

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Skios, Frayn's first novel in ten years s a mad cap farce set in the

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Mediterranean. World renowned scientist, Dr Which have which have

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which have, is on the way to deliver a co-note speech at a

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cultural foundation, when his suitcase is purlioned by an

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opportunistic cad, Oliver Fox. While fox ememploys his charm to

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lap up the luxury of the intellectual retreat, the real Dr

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Which have which have stumbles around the island on a series of

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events with taxi drivers, women and goats. People have lives that are

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all very predictable, they make one wrong step and everything falls to

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pieces. And what is interesting is to see the fabric of causality

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interrupted by some quite abitary action on the part of a particular

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human being. "Gooden thought Oliver as he saw the smile, she thinks I'm

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him. All at once he knew it was so, he was Dr Which have which have

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which have." One of the things that makes farce possible in the theatre,

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is that the audience is a corporate animal. When people laugh, it

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enables other people to laugh. Whether farce is possible if you

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just have an audience of a single reader, I don't know. I would like

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to claim in this book, it is not just mere entertainment, it is

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experiment mental literature. "What kind of lecture was he going to

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give any way, had he some how got hold of the real Dr Norman

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Wilfred's text, or would he create a mockery of the electionure, a

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hoax lecture, in the spirit of the mass raid he was still performing,

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or would there be no -- masquerade he was performing, or would there

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be no lecture at all". It is a farce for you and no-one else, for

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the single man or women, it was an experiment, did it work? It is a

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very ingenious book. I used think there was two Michae Frayn, the

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deep thinking one and then the farceer. In this book you can see

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they are one in the same person. In the video we watched, he was

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talking about the fabric of causality, that is the

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preoccupation with the book. It is a philosophical novel about

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uncertainty and randomness and chance, and how human behaviour is

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absolutely contingent and unpredictable, it works as a

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philosophical exploration of that. Writing in a sense to entertain

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himself, did he entertain you with it? Not enough, I'm not sold on the

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single person farce theory, I think you need a lot of people in the

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theatre to have the patience for the long, long set up, and to enjoy

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it. That is a collective enjoyment. This is full of good jokes while

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you wait, it is a very long wait. Can I check your call ten times.

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And Mr Fox Oliver taken as a Greek greeting. Full of very, very good

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jokes. It is cleverly plotted, he puts it in the beginning and pays

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off ten chapters later. I wonder if he produced it with algebra. But it

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is cold, I don't read all ge bra for fun. -- Alg ebra for fun.

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stops you in a moment spinning and takes you back in. I was impressed

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by the ability, another technical challenge, can you make the idea of

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the farce work in a world of mobile phones and e-mails. Because in way,

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that should stop all, but it adds to it. Only if you believe the

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premise, which is that the girl, we won't go into the detail too much,

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so she's stupid enough to believe he's the main man. The girls are

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very stupid. He doesn't write stupid women particularly, but

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these are very stupid women. In a lot of films you have to get rid of

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the mobile phone, he keeps it going. Keeping technology in there. I

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enjoyed the dialogue and the characters, the minor character,

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the Crispin, the writer in residence at Skios seemed like

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familiar, struggling to write his poems. There was lots, you could

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imagine it was 10thou post-its on - - 10,000 post-its on the wall.

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Isn't there a lack of empathy in farce. It is also that there is

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something interesting about working on stage, actual lean when Jamie

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falls down the stage in the current production of Noises Off, you think

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ouch, ouch, ouch, as you go, and restraining your own imperfect pain,

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so with a distance of effort you see the distance between the actor

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you care about and the character you don't care about. The character

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didn't bother me at all, I cared about the conclusion, and I cared

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about the fact it was like a semi- crazed essay, I understand when you

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say about it being experimental. was thinking how is Michae Frayn,

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what rabbit will he pull out of the hat now. You are watching a

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magician saw his assistant in half. At the end he shows you the trick

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almost. You can read this book, and see it entirely on the stage, or

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you can see it in a goofy film. You can see it in either of those place,

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in a sense you can see it more easily than on the page? It is

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longing to be a film. It is such a reation from his previous group.

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Wonderful, painful, difficult, memoir of his father. Now he has

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gone back into all ge bra. He has never written the same book twice.

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He's a wonderful writer. He's still taking risks. He put himself

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through it and wrote it in a year, and managed to weave it together.

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It bears relationship to this book, wrote, The Human Touch, a

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philosophical inquiry. The mixture of order and chaos, that tipping

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into chaos. The chaos being the fundamental nature of things. And

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the lack of any absolute certainty about things. He's interested in a

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deep quantum level, and understands it. And it comes off on a comedic

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level. It is a quantum farce. don't think it is a philosophically

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subtle book. It is, and very easy to read, that is a remarkable

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achievement. A remarkable achievement, or not? Wonderful

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technically, and I don't care. it for yourself, Skios is published

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on the 3rd of May. If you prefer Michae Frayn on stage, or love both,

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you can catch Noises Off in London's West End.

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What links Marylin Monroe, musical theatre and Steven Spielberg. These

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arem soft elements that make up Smash, Sky Atlantic's new series

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set in the uber competitive world of musicals, which follows the

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highs and lows of putting on a show. Mr Schu and his glee club geeks

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became an surprise hit in 2009, with a mix of music and drama.

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Where glee Glee is all about aspiration, Smash heads deep into

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the big time. # Somewhere over the rainbow

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Focusing on successful songwriting duo Tom and Julia, played by Tony

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nominee, Christian Boyle and Deborah Messing, best known for

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Will and Grace, determined not to rehash an old musical, the pair

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come up with an original score, based on the life of Marylin Monroe.

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You could do a baseball number. With the help of the producer,

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Eileen, played by Anjelica Houston, who adds a sprig of comedic

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chemistry. They just need a leading lady.

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Katharine McPhee, American Idol runner up, whose innocence makes

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her perfect for the young Norma Jeanne.

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# Every day is so wonderful # Suddenly

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# It's hard to breathe However, hot on her heels is Ivy, a

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sexy, back row Broadway hoofer, desperate to be released from the

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chorus, Played by the star of the hit music

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of Wicked. It is not all American jazz hands, as London's glittering

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West End vies for attention, with a couple of Brits starring in the

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cast. Most notably, Jack Davenport, who stamped his mark on the UK

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psyche in his role in This Life. Smash she is his return of his

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bullying best, with the slightly dodgy director part of Derek.

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Darling I need to see everything you have got. Mrs Plenty of

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bitching and backstabbing, it is a surprise it is produced by firm

:27:56.:28:00.

family favourite, Steven Spielberg. Smash has original music, written

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by the team behind the hit show Hairspray, and rock, pop and

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country cover, and it melds rehearsal run-throughs with

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polished performances, will the more adult take on the genre be a

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smash with the viewers. That was so great. Is it Glee for

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grown-ups? I fell for the trailer and looked past by the givaway of

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executively produced by Steven Spielberg. I thought it would be

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for non-Glee fans and be an edgey take on the show. It is a soppy,

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fairly heart warming version of that idea. And dreadfully throws up

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all sorts of possiblities in terms of Spielberg joining in with Lloyd

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Webber of being part of popular music. The Marylin musical at the

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heart of it, will become the musical. You are so cynical.

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Because it is written, it is plausible. It is written by the guy

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who wrote Hairspray. Is it cheesey and camp enough? It is just cheesey

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UN I thought it was a great guilty pleasure, I really enjoyed it.

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There are sacharine moments, but what saves it from becoming too

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sweet is Jack Davenport comes on like a squeeze of lemon and is

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truck lent and repricing his Miles role from This Life. I really

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enjoyed it, stick in a few song and dance numbers. Nothing like enough

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lemon for me. There was something very interesting about the big

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American musical with two English characters in it. One, Jack

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Davenport, is straight out of Henry James, Europeans are difficult,

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dishonest, you don't know how to read them, this one is British and

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very dodgy indeed. I'm afraid he's the only moment I get interested.

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Not even in Anjelica Houston? quite good. I love Anjelica Houston

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and Deborah Messing, and The House at Pooh Corner house character is

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disappointing. She could be more acid. It is a set up for a long run,

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12 parts. I think it is very slick. There is a bit of a drop in the

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third one, a drop in energy, they have resolved some of the plot

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points from the first two. Do you think? Which of the two girls is it

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going to be? It is the other side, we have the pop song, the popular

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song, whether from Broadway or, what also happens outside the

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Marylin musical, is the characters themselves have their journeys,

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told through popular song, as you can see from Christina Aguilera,

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Adele will turn up later, exploiting the history of popular

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music without giving us a reading into why these things are so

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engaging and enduring. What happens is they have all the rehearsal

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sequences which turn into the full banana. Selling the musical, Kirsty.

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So cynical. Do they sow in, it seemed to me by the third episode,

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that stuff didn't meld at all, you didn't want any more of that.

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did turn into Glee, it seemed a bit of an idiom. They are trailing the

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musical. I don't think it will be that good. Marylin the musical is

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an elephant's graveyard. We talked of course, we saw shall we have a

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Joe deimaginey, shall we get a baseball line in. # Who's that man?

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He's the first place coach. # Throw him out

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# There isn't a doubt # That all men like to play

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# The national best # And I was just a little girl

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# I liked being dainty # And pretty

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# But now that I'm giving M # Sports a whirl

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# I find I kind of like # To get dirty

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Maybe it would have been better if the two Marylins would have been

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Glenn Close and Anjelica Houston. I do find musical theatre

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embarrassing, it is like Morris dancing. They are both equally bad.

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Both embarrassing. Paul's obsessed with this idea that we will have

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Marylin the musical. He wants to see it. The idea of using Marylin

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as fresh, minted music and using the covers. It is the Spielberg

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that they are allowed to commission an entire musical and create a

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slight weight soppy sitcom, that is an epic commission. There are dark

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lines in it? It is all about struggling actors with the

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rejection, that is ever green stuff. Going to auditions. It is cliched.

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Everyone loves seeing that. woman sexy, the other tender and

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sensitive, by the third episode the sexy one is now sensitive. What

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will happen next? It is cliched stuff. And Jack Davenport will get

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his jum uppance. He's in it to the end. With Homeland and House, the

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Brits are doing well in terms of American films on television and in

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the movies? If they are the only ones allowed to be complicated and

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interesting, as in this country, I'm not surprised. They are great

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on other roles, but capable to speak American. You don't get

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anyone who can't can cannot speak American, and Jack Davenport can

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speak American. Smash is on tomorrow evening at 10.00pm. Here

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in Glasgow, the biannual Glasgow international kicked off a visual

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festival this week, in every corner of the city. We sent these three to

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explore before they came into the studio. Here are some highlights.

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The festival's an event that happens across the city of Glasgow.

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It takes place in a lot of familiar contemporary art venues, but also

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in less expected places for contemporary art. Including

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Kelvingrove Art Gallery, known for its historic art collection.

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Richard Wright lives and works in Glasgow, we are looking at 14 years

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of work, works using traditional art and stories called techniques

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and spray-painting in enamel. There is a complexity in the work

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reflected in the exhibition. Carla is another artist from

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Glasgow with amazing opportunities all over Europe, not in Glasgow

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until this exhibition in Goma, her most substantial thing to do in

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Scotland. She has achieved differenciation in colour through

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all the wood she has used. That contrasts with a more plastic

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material that she has used. Wolfgang was the first artist ever

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to win the turner prize as a photographer. There is a real

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richness and depth, there is landscapes, portraits, still lives,

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there is what you could describe as abstract work, it is all our

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history in one exhibition. The festival very much grew out of the

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arts scene in Glasgow, it wouldn't happen if it wasn't for the fact

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that there is a healthy constituency of artists and

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independent art organisations in the city. The it came along as a

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moment to celebrate that. You might have spotted the fact

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that one was a bouncey castle and it ofn't quite a bouncey castle, it

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was a bouncey Stonehenge. You felt you were part of Stonehenge.

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loved it. I I'm not sure I felt I was part of Stonehenge, the

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original, I believed it in as a construction. It is beautifully set

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on a rising hill. You look at everything else around it. There it

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is. Everybody jumps an on the green bit, if you fling yourself against

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one of the great rocks it falls over, it is terrifying and great

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fun. How long did it take to blow up, I can't imagine. I thought

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concept actual art is childish and that makes it explicit. Did you

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jump around? I did, I thought more things like that around, in the

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Millennium Dome, they could have done that. Did Jeremy Deller entice

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you on to Stonehenge? He was standing around looking self-

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conscious on the side. The artist is like a city planner, it is like

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the wheel when it went up it brought pleasure to people. This

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will move around. It was cunning to have it open in Glasgow. I think if

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it had opened in the middle of the Olympics, which it is commissioned

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for, we might have been nor jaundiced. Very clever to bring it

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in Glasgow. Releases the joy. very hard work jumping on it.

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you're not 0-5 you are knackered. At least you didn't jump on the

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Karla Black, Goma, what did you make of it? I loved it, the smell

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hits you when you first go in. It is extraordinary, it is

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unreproducable, it is in the classical hall of Goma, it almost

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hills it with this huge wonderful smelling perfumed, layered, with

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the neo-classical, cellophane wreaths hung above it. It makes you

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very excited about the building and, wonderful, it doesn't come across

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in photographs. The point of it is the thing itself. That is rare and

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marvellous. I went to see the Richard Wright, I love him, so much

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about him is impermanent, this was works on paper over 14 years, my

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big disappointing, I love the gallery, but it is so hard to find

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it without much signage. What we want to sing from the rafters is

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isn't Richard Wright wonderful. The intcy of the work is amazing. --

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intricacy of the work is amazing, there he is, working away, making

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no fuss, 2009 Turner Prize winner. I went to see the new artists, to

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see, what does a young relatively unknown artist think about what

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they are now. Do they create stunts and incidents and events and epic

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scale. What was interested about this exhibition is you felt these

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new artists were crushed into a koorn. There was very little for

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them to express themselves in ways that we know. If there was one name

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in this collection that I in theed, that I thought may become that kind

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of artist was Ian Giles. In a sense here is someone that could begin to

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explore what a modern artist is, different med ya a being famous.

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Wolfgang Tillmans, the only photo- er to have won? This passed me by.

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I went, they said eclectic, I thought random, I thought it was

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abstract and heartless. I thought it was me. I thought my visual

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sense may have abandoned me. There is a brilliant view outside the

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window looking at the Clyde, it ofn't there. It is a selection of

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highlights, the whole point about the Glasgow festival, it is

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continuing until the 3rd of May. Just before we go, legendary by

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starrist, Bert Weedon best known for his guitar manual Play In A Day

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has died, aged 89, Eric Clapton, and others were some of the

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celebrities. He talked about his passion for guitars. Are you ready

:39:47.:39:51.

for rock'n'roll. What is it then about the guitar that makes it

:39:51.:39:54.

something which has got such popular appeal, even if you want

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play it well, people want to have one and play it? I don't know, it

:39:59.:40:08.

has got a symbol, a sexual thing, it is a beautiful thing, it is a

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thing of emotion, it is like a beautiful woman, you can cuddle it.

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I don't know what it is about the guitar, but it is, to my mind, the

:40:18.:40:28.
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loveliest instrument of all. Can't be underestimated the impact

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he had. Not at all, before Bert Weedon this country had no guitar

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tradition, it was all coming from America, the blues and country, the

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idea that he did was create the possibility for there to be British

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guitar players. So he was basically the first guitar her ro. And he

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basically gave people the per-- hero, and he gave people in this

:40:54.:40:58.

country permission to be a guitar player, and we have become a

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country of great by star players. The generosity of the book, and

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hard learned skill over 40 years, made him a national treasure sure,

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before there was ever really such a word. Essentially he was the first

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then produced magnificent guitar heros because of Bert Weedon.

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is almost all from us. My thanks to Susan, and Paul and Marcel. We will

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be back with the book special on 11th of May. Stay with us on BBC

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Two for later with Jools. To get you into the mood, here is the last

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of the BBC Introducing musicians, Rae Morris, sheer she is with Don't

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# I keep hoping that we'll find # Another reason to compromise

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# And this time I'll break # Inside

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# I keep staring # To the past

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# And Alloa those feelings he compromise

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# This time I'll break down in side # Don't go

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# Don't go feel like you have to # Only if you want to

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# Fill my world with hope again # Hope again

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# Sometimes people make the wrong moves

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# Walking in the wrong shoes # Make me feel like hope again

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# Hope again # We keep on changing

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# And all the answers are hard to find

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# This time we'll go hand from hand # I'll shed some sorrow

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# Shed some sin # I hate this state we're in

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# This time I'll break down inside # So slowly

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# falls from your mind # Falls from your mind

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# Hope dies slowly # Falls from your eyes

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# Don't go # Don't you feel like you have to

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# Only if you want to # Fill my world with

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