Bollywood and Beyond: A Century of Indian Cinema


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Indian cinema is now over 100 years old.

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And from humble beginnings, it's gone on to become the largest,

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most diverse film industry in the world.

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Reflecting the hopes and dreams of a nation.

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That's what's probably unique about Indian cinema.

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That...it has hope in it.

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Who?

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You.

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We rely heavily on emotions. We're an emotional country.

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That's what our nation relies on. Our hope is based on emotions.

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I love cinema, I've always loved cinema,

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and for me cinema is the greatest art.

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And Indian cinema, I think, is particularly unique.

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MAN: How disgusting!

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-ALL:

-How disgusting.

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In this film I'll see the hopefuls and the people who train them.

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And hunt down some of the biggest stars in the industry.

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My journey will take me across India

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and lead me all the way back to London.

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Now, in the time that we have, this is a bit of a whistle-stop tour

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through the films that I think define Indian film

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and also what makes it unique.

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If you haven't seen a Bollywood film before, they're known for

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their song and dance routines and spectacular action.

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Rathore. Vikram Rathore.

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But now a new wave of art house films

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and independent hits have made India a serious global player,

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and business is booming.

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I see this business going through an exponential shift

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over the next few years.

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This really is a golden age of Indian cinema.

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Don't angry me.

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Thank you.

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My experience of going to the cinema in the '60s was with my parents,

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with my family, on a Friday, Saturday or a Sunday,

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our family, and 40,000 others, which means about three Indian families,

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all descended on these three cinemas in the centre of Southall.

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And there were queues...

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I should explain that in a queue, I guess in the West,

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means an ordered line of people...

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..just chatting and looking at their watches waiting to go in.

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A queue in Indian terms means, "Let's go!"

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And everybody is one little aperture, it's like a funnel,

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and everyone just pressing in, and that's what it was like.

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We would get in, we would get our seats

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and there would be laps on laps on laps.

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Health and safety didn't exist at that point.

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It was just, pack as many people as you can into the cinema hall.

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And the reason why people like me

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and families, and particularly kids, kept on going back was that

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Hindi movies for us was the closest we got to a cultural injection

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from the land of our ancestors.

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If you want to get under the skin of the Indian film industry

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you have to start here in Mumbai,

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the home of Bollywood cinema.

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Every time I visit I'm surprised by the sheer pace of change.

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Elaborate towers reach ever higher

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and this city more than any other projects India's global ambition.

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And even after all these years,

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the city is still clearly obsessed my movies,

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their stars and fairy-tale lifestyles.

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They don't call it the City of Dreams for nothing.

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You don't have to look hard for examples

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of how devoted Indians are to cinema.

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Take the Big B for instance. Amitabh Bachchan,

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affectionately known as the Big B,

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is without doubt the biggest movie star on Earth.

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It's a position he's enjoyed for nearly four decades

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and demonstrates more clearly than anything

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the amazing power that cinema has in India.

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I'm making my way across town to the starry Mumbai suburb of Juhu,

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where the great man lives.

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We've heard that on Sundays

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when he's in town, there's always a crowd outside his house,

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but on Sundays he comes out and gives little...

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people blessings to the fans.

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We're outside Amitabh Bachchan's gate.

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Now, as you can see, I'm not the only person who knows that

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he's going to be here.

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Hundreds of people have made the pilgrimage to Amitabh's house.

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TRANSLATION: We've been standing here for three hours.

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Braving temperatures in excess of 40 degrees

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in the hope of a glimpse of their idol.

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Some of them have come literally from thousands of miles away,

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all over India, to come over here to catch a glimpse of him.

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I mean, this is kind of...demigod worship exemplified.

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We've been here about half an hour now

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and the crowd's really built up.

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It must have been like this outside Graceland.

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I can't think of anywhere else that

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people would gather outside this sort of way.

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And there for just a few seconds is the man himself.

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It would be impossible to believe that none of us have had failure

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in our lives and that all of us have had continued success all our lives.

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It's difficult to comprehend the level of devotion

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that Indians bestow upon stars like the Big B.

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But thankfully Anupama Chopra,

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an industry insider with her own movie review show,

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has agreed to give me a window into this crazy world.

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Why in India are the movie stars so worshipped?

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You know, I had in fact done a long feature for The New York Times

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on exactly this. The sort of devotion and the praise

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and, you know, some guy walking from somewhere in Utter Pradesh to

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Bombay because that is a form of penance that God make him, OK.

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Where do you see this? It's impossible.

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I don't think Brad Pitt has this. I don't think Tom Cruise has this.

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It's just these people.

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And so I try to explore exactly this, that

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what makes us so crazy about movie stars?

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And one hypothesis is that the early films were all mythologicals

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and costume dramas and many of them were about religious subjects

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where you literally saw stars as gods.

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And those were the first few years of Hindi cinema.

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To get to the bottom of how Indian movie stars reached their

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present day demigod status, we need to start 100 years ago

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in the silent era.

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Raja Harishchandra, made in 1913, is thought to be the first

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Indian movie and was a tale of gods and goddesses,

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which established the format for the new medium.

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But little has survived to the present day.

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And so the best place to start is the National Film Archive in Pune.

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Here a small but dedicated group of archivists struggle to

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preserve the few surviving examples of early Indian cinema.

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The founder of the archive, PK Nair,

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recalls the romance to early visits to the cinema.

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I watched the movie inside the cinema hall by sitting on the floor.

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Floor means it's filled with sand, white sand from the beach.

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And the chai wallah and the others

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used to come every ten minutes

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because the interval was there, it was single projector.

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So there used to be a number of intervals.

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So they used to come every now and then

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and offer you tea or coffee or whatever it is.

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Because early negatives and prints contain silver,

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many were stripped of their precious metal and lost for ever.

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Then in 2003 a fire at the National Archive tragically wiped out

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many of the prints that PK Nair had painstakingly collected.

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One precious survivor is the 1943 film Kismet.

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It's the story of a pickpocket who falls in love.

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And in its day proved a massive hit,

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giving India its first superstar, Ashok Kumar.

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For the first time movie stars were calling the shots.

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The first company of note at that time was a company called

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Bombay Talkies.

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And this was formed primarily by two people,

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Himanshu Rai and Devika Rani,

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who were both stars of the screen at that time.

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So in a way the closest equivalent I guess in America would be

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United Artists.

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And these guys would be like Douglas Fairbanks and Charlie Chaplin

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and people like that.

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Actors who had formed their own studio.

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The early talkies were more than just popular entertainment.

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In the run up to Indian independence, films like Kismet

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sent a very clear message.

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While India was still under British rule there were censorship

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restrictions on what can be filmed and what can be said on screen.

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But clever film-makers could see the enormous appeal of the new medium

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and found neat ways around the censor.

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They told censors at that time, "This is a war film.

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"It promoted the effort for the war."

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So that is why they got this exemption.

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So they managed to put in an anti-British song

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-in effect paid for by the British?

-Yeah.

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That's quite clever, isn't it?

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Whilst on the surface the protest songs in Kismet

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were aimed at the Japanese invader,

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the spirit of resistance they represent was aimed directly

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at India's colonial masters.

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The audience knew it was meant for the British.

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That is the greatness of the film.

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So it seems that from the very beginning, songs which appealed to

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the common man played a central role in Indian cinema.

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What is the purpose of the song, the musical number in Hindi film?

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Songs have always been the part of a dramatic narrative.

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This has been millennium old tradition in our country.

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And that is what the cinema inherited.

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The very first talkie that we made was Alam Ara.

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It had, fasten your seatbelt, 50 songs.

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-50?!

-Yes. 5-0.

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But the song used to be two minutes long.

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But it had 50 songs.

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So there was never any confusion that whether we will have songs

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or we won't have songs.

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Simple lyrics loaded with a nationalist pride of a new republic

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was a sure way of capturing the public's imagination,

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and film-makers who chose the right songs

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could ensure their movies became hits.

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Raj Kapoor had a very canny ear for picking a good song

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and a catchy song.

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Like the one from Shree 420 - Mera Joota Hai Japani.

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The kind of films he made, I don't think anyone can do that today.

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Why is that?

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I think because they were so simple.

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And now suddenly everything is like snazzy,

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there's computer graphics, songs, there's expensive costumes,

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lavish sets.

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Whereas back in the day when films like Boot Polish and Awara,

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even Bobby for that matter,

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simple love story that just stormed the nation.

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A simple storyline with basic technique of shooting.

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Raj Kapoor was one of the brightest stars

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of the newly independent India.

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In Shree 420, which he also produced and directed,

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he plays the lead character.

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With more than a passing resemblance to Chaplin's Little Tramp,

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he proved hugely popular

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and the film remains influential to this day.

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Before starting any film of mine...

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and now even today...

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I see his one film Shree 420.

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I've seen that film more than 200 times.

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Because that film made in '50s or '60s, is today's film.

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Now, the interesting thing about Raj Kapoor as a film-maker is that

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what he did was he made populist film,

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he made films that had social messages,

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but as a creator of film he got to understand

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what every department on a film does.

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He understood the process like no other film-maker.

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Raj Kapoor was amongst the first stars to establish their own studio.

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In the process, began a dynasty that still rules the industry.

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One of his granddaughters, Kareena,

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is amongst India's most popular stars today.

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I was wondering, when you were a kid,

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at what point did you become aware that you were part of this dynasty?

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Well, I don't know. I don't think I was aware as such

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because I think everyone in the family for us

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it was like, it's a job, a passion that has become a job.

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So no-one really took success or being movie stars

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or big directors or producers or actors very seriously.

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It was just something that we loved doing.

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That was always the atmosphere that was around.

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And, for me, I don't think I ever thought of anything else

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apart from just becoming a movie star.

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I think that while I was in my mother's stomach

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I think I was ready to dance and sing

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and just kind of take off into the Indian film industry.

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It's in my DNA.

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In India we still have joint families here.

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Like, my son stays with me.

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There is more closeness,

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so I feel that that is a strength of the family.

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To be close and work together.

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We Indians are made in that manner.

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Kapoor's leading lady, Nargis,

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would also go on to become movie royalty,

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and the role which would propel her into cinema history

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was her portrayal of the iconic Indian mother

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in one of the most influential Indian films of all time -

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Mother India.

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It's an incredibly moving film about a young widow

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who struggles to bring up her two children,

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finding hope in the face of abject poverty.

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Mother India the film,

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I don't remember how many times I've seen it in my school days.

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And the character Birju left a very deep impact on me, and the mother.

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Mother traditionally has been respected,

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worshipped in our society.

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Mother is a god.

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You can't say that, "Once upon a time there was a bad god."

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So you can't say that, "Once upon a time there was a bad mother."

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So if you are praising the mother, admiring her, worshipping her,

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nobody can question you.

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So that is a totally bankable character, as a matter of fact.

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You can put your last shirt on it.

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Mother India, I would say, is a very beautiful performance,

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but Mother India started this image of suffering women

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because they were constantly looking out for the family

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and sacrificing themselves for the family.

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They were the suffering wife,

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the all-forgiving mother,

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the sacrificing sister

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and what have you.

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The decision-making roles always went to the man.

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If not the hero, then the villain.

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He was the more powerful of the lot. Women were the good person.

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We didn't live as an individual.

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Modernity is about the individual.

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And they never put themselves before the family or the community.

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It wasn't until the 1950s that women started to become represented

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in a more sophisticated way, with the rise of what became known as

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parallel cinema or what we might call art house.

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It was with the advent of parallel cinema that you started seeing

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women in greater complexity and maybe having shades of grey

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and certainly having a more independent voice.

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The '50s gave rise to the film-maker.

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So we had people who were cinema literate

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who were making films in India.

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These were kind of film-makers who were very aware and influenced

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by films from around the world and particularly from the West.

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So we had people like Guru Dutt, who made classic films like Pyaasa

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and Kaagaz Ke Phool.

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And he was influenced by people like Orson Welles,

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and you can see it in his framing.

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The godfathers of Indian parallel cinema, auteurs like Guru Dutt,

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were convinced that cinema has a power

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that goes far beyond mere entertainment.

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Despite a tragically short life and career,

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Guru Dutt left an enduring legacy.

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These are the people who have proved beyond any doubt

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that it was possible to make an extremely aesthetic, nice, sensible,

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intelligent film which can do great box office.

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They have done it again and again.

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Pyaasa was a very big hit.

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Pyaasa, or "thirst", is the tragic tale of the life and loves

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of a struggling poet.

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Guru Dutt stars and directs in a film that is thought to be

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at least partly based on his own experiences.

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And it's so beautifully made that it is commonly regarded

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as one of the greatest films of all time.

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He could talk through visuals.

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If you watch Guru Dutt's films, you can see the film was possible

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only with this kind of visual.

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Pyaasa, the script,

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could have fallen flat on its face with an inferior director.

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Another leading light of parallel cinema was Satyajit Ray.

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And in Apur Sansar, he launched the career of Sharmila Tagore,

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then just 13 years old.

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The first day's shooting was Apu gets married.

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He goes to this village and his friend takes him

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and he somehow has to marry this girl and he brings her back.

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And Apu and Aparna, that's my character,

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are waiting outside.

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And then Ray's voice rang out.

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He said, "Start sound. Camera. Action."

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And Soumitra opens the door and walks in

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and looks at me and says, "Come in."

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Means come in.

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And I cross the threshold,

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walk in and then he tells me, "Walk forward."

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I look up, "Look towards your right, raise your shoulder, sigh.

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"Cut. Excellent. Next shot."

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And then very soon after that we did that shot that everybody raves about

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when I go to the window.

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And overwhelmed with everything that's happened, I start crying

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and then there is a child and the mother playing downstairs.

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So I look through a torn curtain.

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Everybody has raved about that shot.

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Apparently it's the perfect framing,

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and it's like Mona Lisa, from whichever angle you see that.

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The World Of Apu would go on to become a hugely influential trilogy

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and gave Satyajit Ray his rightful place in

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the firmament of world cinema.

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But this low-key realist cinema was a far cry from what

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Indian cinemagoers were accustomed to.

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At that time, acting was very theatrical.

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I mean, usually what we saw, it was a bit OTT.

0:22:500:22:53

He wanted to actually use the medium because he was hugely influenced by

0:23:000:23:04

the European directors and Hollywood, so he had a different concept.

0:23:040:23:11

And he created a bridge between his beloved Bengal

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and the rest of the world,

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but didn't reach out to the other parts of India.

0:23:160:23:20

It's interesting because Satyajit Ray

0:23:200:23:23

was never as popular within India as he was outside of India.

0:23:230:23:28

And I wonder if that's to do with the fact that his films were

0:23:280:23:32

social realism, they didn't have songs in them,

0:23:320:23:35

he wasn't pandering to the masses at that point.

0:23:350:23:39

Ray's sophisticated aesthetic came at a high price.

0:23:390:23:43

By rejecting song and dance, he'd broken one of the cardinal

0:23:430:23:46

rules of Indian cinema.

0:23:460:23:49

Then sound came into cinema.

0:23:500:23:53

We used to have 16 songs in each film,

0:23:530:23:57

20 songs in each film,

0:23:570:23:59

and our films were all musicals, like they were in the West.

0:23:590:24:02

But we never came out of the musicals, we just stayed with that.

0:24:020:24:06

And so for us, a film is not a musical because there's songs in it

0:24:060:24:12

-because that's like a normal film for us.

-Right.

0:24:120:24:15

So, actually, when I look at Hindi cinema or Indian cinema

0:24:150:24:19

and it's not just Hindi, it's Tamil, Telugu, everywhere...

0:24:190:24:22

it's a bit like Broadway.

0:24:220:24:24

Our films are like West End or Broadway musicals.

0:24:240:24:28

-If you know what I'm trying to say.

-Yeah.

0:24:280:24:30

So it's not odd to us as an audience when people break into a song.

0:24:300:24:34

Will you reject Italian opera because everybody is singing?

0:24:340:24:39

You have kabuki in Japan.

0:24:410:24:43

Would you condemn kabuki because, "Oh, it's not real.

0:24:430:24:47

"Nobody moves or walks and talks like this."

0:24:470:24:50

Would you say that? No.

0:24:500:24:52

What people know us by also is the song and dance because when you

0:24:520:24:56

go to Hollywood or when you talk to an English actor, when you say

0:24:560:24:59

you're from the Indian movies, the first thing,

0:24:590:25:01

and they have a beautiful smile on their face, is, "Wow!

0:25:010:25:04

"The songs and the dances." Because that's what we are.

0:25:040:25:08

So we shouldn't try to be something that we're not.

0:25:080:25:12

We should be proud of what we are.

0:25:120:25:14

I'll tell you one thing I said in the Birmingham Film Festival.

0:25:140:25:18

I said, "I just saw Godfather last night."

0:25:180:25:22

I said, "What a stupid film.

0:25:220:25:25

"It's dumb. It's so boring."

0:25:250:25:27

There was silence.

0:25:270:25:28

I said, "Nobody was singing."

0:25:300:25:32

And all the Asians started clapping.

0:25:340:25:37

You know what? We sing. That is our culture.

0:25:370:25:41

Therefore, for me, it's...

0:25:430:25:46

I have grown up, my mother sang songs on my birthday,

0:25:460:25:49

we sing songs in marriages, we sing songs in death,

0:25:490:25:52

we sing songs when we do whatever.

0:25:520:25:55

So that is how we grew up.

0:25:550:25:58

That's our culture. Music is really part of our culture.

0:25:580:26:02

And therefore our cinema,

0:26:020:26:05

which is meant to entertain us, has to have that.

0:26:050:26:09

Do you know, you got me thinking about the Godfather.

0:26:090:26:11

I just think the big musical numbers are,

0:26:110:26:13

"I made him an offer he couldn't refuse."

0:26:130:26:15

-Yeah.

-"Sleeps with the fishes."

-Absolutely.

0:26:150:26:19

Now, on film you want the best-looking guy

0:26:190:26:23

with the best voice doing the best dialogue.

0:26:230:26:26

When you want to hear a song, you want a guy or a girl

0:26:270:26:30

with the best singing voice.

0:26:300:26:33

Now, obviously the two always don't go together.

0:26:330:26:36

And that's where the rise of the playback singer came in.

0:26:360:26:39

Songs were so important that audiences were able to completely

0:26:390:26:44

overlook and forgive the fact that their hero was not singing the song.

0:26:440:26:50

Because the songs were that good and the songs were that important.

0:26:500:26:54

And the kind of singers that emerged at that point then dominated

0:26:540:27:01

the industry for the next 40 years.

0:27:010:27:04

You had singers like Mohammed Rafi.

0:27:040:27:07

You had singers like Kishore Kumar.

0:27:070:27:10

Lata Mangeshkar.

0:27:100:27:12

Mukesh.

0:27:120:27:14

And Asha Bhosle.

0:27:140:27:17

ASHA BHOSLE SINGS O MERE SONA RE

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It was playback singers like Asha

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who from the very earliest days

0:27:310:27:34

helped transform mere actors into silver screen deities.

0:27:340:27:38

1947 I started my career in Hindi film.

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You know, at that time the equipment was very poor. One track machine.

0:27:460:27:51

I sang one track machine with all musicians,

0:27:510:27:56

one mic, and I'm singing, then duck, then flute.

0:27:560:28:02

Flute's playing and then they're playing.

0:28:030:28:08

After that I sang in Bombay, Mohan Studio.

0:28:080:28:12

The studio is full of musicians,

0:28:120:28:15

no place, so I sang outside studio.

0:28:150:28:20

The one tree, they put mic on that tree,

0:28:200:28:24

big mic, so big and I'm singing.

0:28:240:28:29

Asha-ji has the most recorded voice in history.

0:28:380:28:42

More than 12,000 songs in a career lasting more than 60 years,

0:28:420:28:46

and she's still going strong.

0:28:460:28:48

Fantastic.

0:28:520:28:54

Isn't she amazing? She's over 80 and she sings like that.

0:29:000:29:04

And she was holding back, we were sitting down in a room.

0:29:040:29:08

Asha Bhosle's fame was still rising as the '60s arrived.

0:29:100:29:14

But styles had changed

0:29:140:29:16

and Indian cinema was moving in step with the times.

0:29:160:29:19

This was also the era of Shammi Kapoor.

0:29:200:29:23

Another member of the burgeoning Kapoor dynasty.

0:29:260:29:28

While his brother Raj played the lovable everyman,

0:29:280:29:31

Shammi made his name as a thoroughly modern playboy.

0:29:310:29:34

Hindi cinema had always borrowed freely from the West,

0:29:370:29:40

and in one of my favourite movies,

0:29:400:29:42

the murder mystery Teesri Manzil, Bollywood embraced rock and roll.

0:29:420:29:46

For classically trained musicians like Asha Bhosle,

0:29:480:29:50

the new style proved a challenge.

0:29:500:29:52

SHE SINGS

0:29:550:29:58

-That was a very difficult song.

-Why was that difficult?

0:29:580:30:02

Because that...

0:30:020:30:03

-That's very difficult to sing.

-How did you prepare for that?

0:30:090:30:13

First he came to me, "Can you sing?" I said, "Yes, why not?

0:30:140:30:19

"I am a singer."

0:30:190:30:21

He played song.

0:30:210:30:23

It was very difficult. I can't sing this.

0:30:240:30:27

And I said, "OK, I will try."

0:30:330:30:35

I can't say no.

0:30:350:30:37

I'm very stubborn too. I have to sing this.

0:30:370:30:40

So 15 days I practised that...

0:30:490:30:52

-Like that harm...

-Harmonica.

-Harmonica.

-Yeah.

0:30:540:30:58

Like that.

0:31:000:31:01

SONG: Aaja Aaja

0:31:010:31:05

So the 1960s, this is where I come in,

0:31:100:31:13

in person because I was born,

0:31:130:31:16

which made it easier to go to the cinema.

0:31:160:31:19

And at that time, from memory, Southall had three cinemas.

0:31:190:31:24

There was the Dominion, Century and Liberty.

0:31:240:31:29

Those were the cinemas that just showed Hindi films all the time.

0:31:290:31:33

It was a fantastic communal experience,

0:31:330:31:36

we were all in it together.

0:31:360:31:38

And people were singing along with the songs,

0:31:380:31:41

people would applaud the hero.

0:31:410:31:43

It was kind of pantomimic in its way, but it was just people

0:31:430:31:47

getting involved, and that was kind of lovely cos everyone was doing it.

0:31:470:31:50

And the trick at that time was for the men, particularly,

0:31:500:31:56

to guess where the intermission was going to come in

0:31:560:31:59

and then run out to get to the samosa

0:31:590:32:02

and tea stall, behind which was one very old,

0:32:020:32:08

very asthmatic lady,

0:32:080:32:11

who was dealing with a queue of about 3,000 people.

0:32:110:32:15

It would be somebody going, "Give me 18 teas. 35 samosas."

0:32:150:32:18

And she was...

0:32:180:32:20

HE COUGHS

0:32:200:32:22

These were those plastic cups

0:32:230:32:25

that as soon as you put hot water in it, they deformed.

0:32:250:32:29

Those are the things that you had to carry,

0:32:290:32:31

plus the bag of samosas as well.

0:32:310:32:34

So I discovered at that point that there is a very specific

0:32:340:32:38

Indian male sound for pain in public.

0:32:380:32:42

And that is...

0:32:430:32:45

Wee!

0:32:450:32:47

Wee!

0:32:470:32:49

For half the people, they would come back and the film had started.

0:32:490:32:52

So they were coming back into darkness.

0:32:520:32:54

They had no idea where their families were.

0:32:540:32:58

And I don't think this is a racist thing to say, but in the dark...

0:32:580:33:02

..Indian families kind of all do look and sound the same.

0:33:060:33:11

And they would come in and they've got samosas in one hand

0:33:110:33:13

and they would look around, come into darkness

0:33:130:33:15

and not know where they are.

0:33:150:33:17

And all they could think of saying was that very original,

0:33:170:33:20

"Where are you?"

0:33:200:33:22

To which someone would say, "Here."

0:33:220:33:25

And they'd go, "OK. Here."

0:33:250:33:28

And once there was a bright scene or something lit up, they'd go,

0:33:280:33:31

"You're not my family!"

0:33:310:33:32

There was one film more than any other

0:33:340:33:37

that defines my childhood experience of Indian movies.

0:33:370:33:41

Seeing the cinema of the world, Magnificent Seven, Mackenna's Gold

0:33:550:34:01

and Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid

0:34:010:34:03

and all these kind of films.

0:34:030:34:06

And there are all these...stereophonic sound,

0:34:060:34:09

all this was big stuff, and why can't we do it?

0:34:090:34:15

For me and my generation, it was the equivalent of Star Wars.

0:34:150:34:19

It was the Star Wars for my generation.

0:34:190:34:21

I saw it in India.

0:34:210:34:23

I then came back to Southall where it was on all three cinemas

0:34:230:34:27

all the time for about three months.

0:34:270:34:30

And because we had to go to the cinema every week,

0:34:300:34:32

I saw it every week for three months.

0:34:320:34:34

So we all sat down, Salim-Javed, writers, myself, my father

0:34:340:34:40

and we all sat down and decided, let's do something big.

0:34:400:34:46

When it was being made, cos it took that long to make,

0:34:460:34:50

the film industry had started sniggering about it.

0:34:500:34:54

They had started laughing and making little jokes and,

0:34:540:34:56

"Ah, Ramesh is still making Sholay."

0:34:560:34:58

Sholay is the story of two small- time crooks who are hired to help

0:35:110:35:14

save a village from ruthless bandits.

0:35:140:35:17

It's a Western buddy movie, Indian style.

0:35:170:35:20

GUNSHOT

0:35:350:35:37

Salim-Javed wrote that incredible script,

0:35:370:35:40

copying pieces from many other films.

0:35:400:35:43

But what they did is they took bits and pieces here and there

0:35:430:35:47

and put it together in this way that had never been seen before.

0:35:470:35:52

It then replicated itself by us kind of recreating scenes...

0:35:520:35:56

This is slightly embarrassing.

0:35:560:35:57

This is something like a counselling session.

0:35:570:36:01

Recreating scenes of it in the playground or at people's houses.

0:36:010:36:05

We would get together and go, "Which one are you going to be?"

0:36:050:36:08

Inevitably they said, "You have to be Dharmendra

0:36:080:36:10

"cos I'm taller than you."

0:36:100:36:11

And you kind of go, "Yes, but I've got the voice."

0:36:110:36:14

And in particular I remember, with some embarrassment now,

0:36:160:36:20

try and replicate one song.

0:36:200:36:24

SONG: Yeh Dosti

0:36:240:36:28

APPLAUSE

0:36:580:37:01

The number of bicycles I fell off trying to do that.

0:37:010:37:03

And you know what? This is true.

0:37:030:37:05

If you couldn't find a bicycle, you got a skateboard

0:37:050:37:07

and you'd try to do that.

0:37:070:37:08

And if you couldn't find a skateboard or a bicycle,

0:37:080:37:11

cos obviously we were too young to ride scooters and motorcycles,

0:37:110:37:14

you just got a little kid and you jumped on his back and you said,

0:37:140:37:17

"You have to be the motorcycle."

0:37:170:37:20

Sholay really did change the game.

0:37:210:37:23

Crucially the songs weren't just decorative,

0:37:230:37:26

they provided a narrative function.

0:37:260:37:28

But critics had roundly dismissed the movie

0:37:280:37:32

even before shooting was complete.

0:37:320:37:34

People started saying, "What happened with this?

0:37:340:37:37

"We don't know what Ramesh is doing."

0:37:370:37:39

"What's he doing?"

0:37:390:37:41

Yeah. "He's in Bangalore in some rocks making what? Who knows?"

0:37:410:37:45

And they've been just shooting this movie and shooting this movie.

0:37:450:37:48

A trade magazine, instead of waiting till the picture was released

0:37:480:37:52

on Friday, brought out a special issue -

0:37:520:37:55

"Why Sholay has flopped."

0:37:550:37:57

-Oh.

-The whole issue discussed

0:37:570:38:00

why such a big film has flopped so badly.

0:38:000:38:03

And obviously it was an extremely credible trade paper,

0:38:030:38:07

so everybody believed it.

0:38:070:38:09

Wherever we went people used to tell us that the basic idea was wrong.

0:38:090:38:14

This could not have run and why.

0:38:140:38:16

They would give us ten reasons that why this picture

0:38:160:38:19

could not be a successful film.

0:38:190:38:21

What were the kind of reasons they gave you?

0:38:210:38:23

What was their reasoning to say this will flop?

0:38:230:38:26

What is the lady's interest in the picture?

0:38:260:38:30

It's too white and too masculine.

0:38:300:38:34

The premiere itself was fairly kind of divided audience.

0:38:340:38:38

I think maybe Raj Kapoor or someone else said that,

0:38:380:38:43

"What is the friendship in this?

0:38:430:38:46

"One friend is saying bad things about the other friend.

0:38:460:38:50

"There's too much violence.

0:38:500:38:52

"You start with the train sequence."

0:38:520:38:53

-And people actually called it Cholay.

-Right.

0:38:530:38:57

And they said it was a flop, it's a disaster.

0:38:570:39:00

-Cholay meaning chickpeas.

-Meaning chickpeas.

0:39:000:39:02

"Cholay. It's nothing."

0:39:020:39:05

In the first week, in those same very trade papers,

0:39:050:39:08

we gave a page, Salim and me,

0:39:080:39:12

that we, Salim-Javed, writers of Sholay, guarantee that this picture

0:39:120:39:17

will do more than one crore in every territory.

0:39:170:39:20

Crore was a fantasy that time. No film had done one crore.

0:39:200:39:24

So we had become a laughing stock.

0:39:240:39:27

It wasn't until the film went on national release that the

0:39:290:39:31

true audience reaction started to make itself felt.

0:39:310:39:35

An exhibitor called me and he said, "I have to tell you one thing.

0:39:350:39:40

"At interval these guys don't come out,

0:39:400:39:43

"they don't have any Cokes or any of my snacks,

0:39:430:39:47

"samosas and things like that."

0:39:470:39:50

This is really rubbing it in. He's calling me to say,

0:39:500:39:56

"Forget the ticket sales, my refreshments are not being sold."

0:39:560:40:02

But he said, "Do you know why?

0:40:040:40:07

"That's because nobody wants to get up from their seats."

0:40:070:40:11

They had never seen a film like this before.

0:40:110:40:14

That's an incredibly confident thing to do, to take out your own ad...

0:40:160:40:20

But then we too were proved wrong because it did four,

0:40:200:40:25

five time more than one crore.

0:40:250:40:27

And when you see it in the theatre,

0:40:270:40:30

we were a privileged family

0:40:300:40:31

living in Bhopal,

0:40:310:40:33

and there wasn't much to do apart from

0:40:330:40:35

play cricket or shoot things.

0:40:350:40:37

So one of the people working for us said,

0:40:370:40:39

"Why don't you come and see a movie?"

0:40:390:40:41

And it was a single screen, there were no multiplexes,

0:40:410:40:44

and we sat there with the masses.

0:40:440:40:47

And everyone was highly entertained.

0:40:470:40:49

So there's something collective about that kind of audience

0:40:490:40:53

that basically poor people looking up at the screen and Mr Bachchan

0:40:530:40:56

was entertaining them with songs and dialogue and action.

0:40:560:41:01

Sholay's enormous success established beyond any question the

0:41:050:41:09

career of a man who would dominate the industry for decades to come.

0:41:090:41:13

Through the '50s and at least some of the '60s,

0:41:140:41:17

it was a very hopeful nation.

0:41:170:41:19

Independence had just happened.

0:41:190:41:21

You believed things would be good and things would be right

0:41:210:41:25

and there was this whole Nehruvian Socialism and hope.

0:41:250:41:28

There was a lot of hope.

0:41:280:41:30

But by the '70s, that hope had been completely dashed to the ground.

0:41:300:41:34

This gave rise to a character that became known as the angry young man.

0:41:340:41:38

And in a way, I suppose, it was a kind of rebel

0:41:380:41:43

but with lots of hidden causes.

0:41:430:41:45

So for this new character that was going to be more meaningful

0:41:450:41:50

to the Indian public, they needed a new kind of hero.

0:41:500:41:56

The pretty boy romantic heroes of the '60s just wouldn't cut it.

0:41:560:42:01

They needed someone who had the physical kind of athleticism

0:42:010:42:05

and charisma of a Clint Eastwood.

0:42:050:42:09

They needed somebody who had the voice of a Richard Burton.

0:42:090:42:13

They needed someone who had the smouldering appeal

0:42:130:42:17

of a Marlon Brando.

0:42:170:42:19

And the acting chops of a Robert De Niro.

0:42:190:42:23

Cue Amitabh Bachchan.

0:42:230:42:26

Amitabh Bachchan was more than a movie idol.

0:42:260:42:28

He was someone the man in the street felt they knew and could relate to.

0:42:280:42:31

A truly working class hero.

0:42:310:42:34

You had this man who was not traditionally handsome.

0:42:340:42:38

I always said that he looked like somebody who had a bruised soul.

0:42:380:42:42

-Right.

-He had been hurt by something, someone,

0:42:420:42:45

by just an indifferent society.

0:42:450:42:47

His next film, Deewaar,

0:43:030:43:04

tells the story of two brothers fighting over their mother's love.

0:43:040:43:08

When the boys grow up, one becomes a policeman

0:43:080:43:11

and the other becomes the biggest gangster in town.

0:43:110:43:15

The confrontation between them

0:43:200:43:22

is one of the most famous scenes in all of Indian cinema.

0:43:220:43:25

Shashi Kapoor is standing there.

0:43:260:43:28

Shashi was the policeman.

0:43:280:43:30

He is an outlaw. And he comes in a car. He's a big man now, rich man.

0:43:300:43:34

And he says thank you when he looks at him that he is in plain clothes.

0:43:400:43:44

HE REPEATS LINE

0:43:570:44:00

That's the beginning.

0:44:000:44:02

-Mm-hm.

-That both of them have taunted each other.

0:44:020:44:06

HE REPEATS LINE

0:44:240:44:26

Now when you were writing that, what were you feeling?

0:44:260:44:30

Did you feel the same...?

0:44:300:44:32

As I said, I get goose bumps when I remember it now.

0:44:320:44:36

One night I was not able to sleep, so I thought,

0:44:360:44:41

"OK, since I'm not able to sleep, let me try that scene."

0:44:410:44:45

And I wrote it in one go.

0:44:450:44:48

That's all. No line was added, no line was cut.

0:44:490:44:52

Those trailblazing films of the early '70s established

0:44:550:44:58

a recipe for mainstream Indian movies that would hold for decades.

0:44:580:45:02

And even today,

0:45:020:45:04

movie hopefuls are expected to master those same ingredients.

0:45:040:45:08

In Dharavi, one of Asia's largest shanty towns,

0:45:100:45:13

I've been told there's an acting school that has helped launch

0:45:130:45:16

the careers of several actors,

0:45:160:45:18

including kids featured in Slumdog Millionaire.

0:45:180:45:21

And they start young.

0:45:210:45:23

MUSIC PLAYS

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On Saturday mornings, these kids are taught

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everything from the latest dance moves to basic fight sequences.

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THEY TALK IN OWN LANGUAGE

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No!

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I decided to eavesdrop on one of Baburao's classes

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where the students are drilled in the highly emotional

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kind of acting for which Bollywood has become famous.

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THEY WAIL

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THEY SOB

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-How disgusting! ALL:

-How disgusting!

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-How disgusting! ALL:

-How disgusting!

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The teacher, Baburao, has himself made a film in which he demonstrates

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all the techniques needed to make it big on the silver screen.

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MUSIC PLAYS

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HE SINGS IN OWN LANGUAGE

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HE LAUGHS

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HE COUGHS

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THEY SPEAK IN OWN LANGUAGE

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HE LAUGHS MANIACALLY

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Kuldi Bhai.

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Kuldi Bhai!

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HE SPEAKS IN OWN LANGUAGE

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After a few years, the narrative breakthrough, which had been

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made in the '70s by films like Sholay, was slowly forgotten.

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And while films still relied on the basic elements of song,

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dance and action, they had lost the plot.

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Basically, any semblance of plot there ever was

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just went out the window.

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Any semblance of emotional through-line went out the window

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and they went from set piece to set piece.

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Welcome to the '80s.

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Now, I think the '80s have got a lot to answer for in terms of fashion...

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AUDIENCE CHUCKLES

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..in terms of music and certainly in terms of film,

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and particularly in Indian film.

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They were really derivative and, you know, they were trying to

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kind of ape Western films in all the worst kind of ways, you know?

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There's the fashion, you had kind of weird techno music that

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came in and it was kind of like what does this mean?

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This means nothing, absolutely nothing to me at all.

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So I kind of fell out of love with Indian cinema at that point.

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The late '80s was probably the worst period of Indian cinema, I feel.

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I hope I'm not hurting anybody.

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HE SIGHS

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Because? What?

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I think the kind of stories that were written,

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the kind of films that were made,

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the level of work in each department, whether it was music, lyrics,

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acting, direction, cinematography, visual effects, I mean anything.

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It was all...not good.

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MUSIC PLAYS

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The angry young man became a superhero

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and the '80s was the absolute low point, you know,

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the bottom of the barrel which was

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when they were just doing these hideous dances in awful costumes

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and there was nothing. I mean, the women had nothing to do.

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# Super, super, super, super, Superman... #

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By now, light borrowing had turned into outright theft.

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In the '80s, everything from Superman to the latest

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Hollywood action thriller would get the Bollywood treatment.

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Films had become a cynical way of making money and Bollywood movies

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of the '80s are so bad that some of them are strangely watchable.

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You can't just steal but that's what they did for years and years.

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Well, copyright meant the right to copy, I think that was the reason.

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You know, I'd interviewed Robin Bhatt,

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who was a very successful writer, about 15, 17 years ago

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and they had taken Lethal Weapon

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and stolen elements of it and made it into a film called Sadak,

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a very successful film with Sanjay Dutt.

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So I said to him, "But, Robin, you know, where is your talent in this?"

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And he said, "My talent lies in knowing what to steal."

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THEY LAUGH

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In those years, it was like

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you make these superhero movies

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and it was easy to spend money on it,

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it was easy to think that we can make money out of it

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until you actually...

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There's a burn-out.

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But nothing is pushing forward or breaking new ground

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or making new cinema.

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HE SINGS IN OWN LANGUAGE

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But at the dawn of the new millennium,

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a new kind of Indian cinema did finally come into being,

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characterised by films designed to appeal to the Indian diaspora.

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A new international aspect dominated storylines

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and the modern era of Indian cinema had begun.

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I think film-makers realised that there was an audience

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outside of India that was watching their films.

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Also, India had opened up its borders,

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there was more investment going into India.

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There was a middle class that was growing exponentially.

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Indians were beginning to travel a lot more

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so those influences were a lot closer to home.

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Satellite TV arrived.

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You know, it wasn't quite as easy to just steal stuff from Western

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films because people knew where the source was,

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what you were stealing, where you were stealing it from.

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And also, within that growing middle class,

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there was a sense of pride as well about being able to achieve,

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about India being able to be a world player.

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Generally, what's happening is you have

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two set-ups for films in India now.

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You have the single screen, which is the large, almost Shakespearean type

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of theatre with the stalls, you know, for the poor people

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and the balconies for the slightly better-off and...

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Generally, large single-screen theatres, they're called,

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which contribute about 30%, 20% of a film's revenue.

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80% of it, if I'm getting my maths right, is now the multiplex

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and that multiplex is a very expensive ticket in comparison

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and representative of an emerging middle class in India

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that has a bit of money to spend,

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that is also quite aware of what is happening in the West

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in terms of exposure to television and films

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and would like to be stimulated in a similar way.

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What happened was film-makers started just to focus on that

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multiplex audience.

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You know, the urban, the educated, the slightly more nuanced,

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sophisticated, satellite-shaped audience

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rather than the rural audience

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and I remember doing interviews in the '90s with directors

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and they were like, "You know, who cares about that village?

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"We're done.

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"So now all our stories are going to be New York

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"and everyone's like falling in love in Australia or London."

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I mean London was like our back yard. Every second story was London.

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# You and I, you and I

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# We're like diamonds in the sky... #

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A whole wave of films that presented

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the newly attainable dream of a Western lifestyle,

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and the consumer culture that went with it, had taken over.

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# I knew that we'd become one right away... #

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Global movie studios could see the opportunity

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and suddenly India was flooded by the likes of Sony, Warner Bros

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and Disney all hoping for a piece of the action.

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Initially, when foreign companies came in,

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there was a lot of excitement,

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but they did not understand the Indian market.

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They had their own executives from abroad, they just did not know

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how to handle the chaos and the lack of transparency of the Indian market.

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It's only the experts who had spent their lifetime dealing

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and doing business in this market who understand how it works.

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The studios have all come in and many of them

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have already built their hands making local product in the early

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years, so Sony made Saawariya,

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Warner Bros made Chandni Chowk to China.

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All of these films were just God awful.

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Disney made Roadside Romeo with Yash Raj.

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None of them worked and I think there was a certain arrogance

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that we'll just walk in and, you know,

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people in Burbank will decide what people in Bollywood should be doing.

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It doesn't work like that.

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It's a very unique market, it's a very specific market,

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it's a very relationship-driven industry.

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It's a different place and I think that the studios quickly realised

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that it's not going to work. You can't walk in and just sign cheques.

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MUSIC PLAYS

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While global movie studios lost huge amounts of money

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trying to seduce the middle class Indian market,

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the domestic Indian industry was doing just fine without them,

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giving the old recipe of song and dance a modern twist.

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I'd fallen right out of love with Indian films,

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particularly at that time, and then a friend of mine basically said,

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"Have you seen any of these films that are out?"

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And I said, "No, not really. I went off them a few years ago.

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"It's not for me."

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I was kind of enjoying the Indiana Jones films

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and all the stuff that was coming out of Hollywood.

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And he said, "You should take a look."

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And the film he handed me had dance sequences in it,

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the like of which I hadn't seen before.

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The '50s and '60s, it was mainly classical,

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and it was mainly the women who were doing it.

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I remember Rajesh Khanna's one dance move was this...

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LAUGHTER

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That was it. Amitabh's was this.

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LAUGHTER

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But slower, obviously, I've sped that up.

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But this was a kind of real hybrid and the film was Dil To Pagal Hai.

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MUSIC PLAYS

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Bringing an international attitude

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to the Indian staples of song and dance

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prove to be a real challenge for choreographers.

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When I started the first film, Dil To Pagal Hai,

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the style was a very Indo-contemporary style,

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which is not the normal Bollywood ... what you see.

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It was more...

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Like a Western Indian style, very unusual.

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Not really Indian Indian and not really Western,

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it was a mix, a very fine mix.

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I think that is what the Shiamak style is,

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it's where you don't know if it's Bollywood or Hollywood, it's neither.

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MUSIC PLAYS

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Were you kind of at all nervous about the reaction

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and how did you deal with that?

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I was nervous, I was petrified,

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I thought it would never work because it was too Western.

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I even told Yash, I said to Yash Chopra, "You must know that

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"it's never going to work, my style."

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He said, "I want your style."

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I said, "But it's not Bollywood, I can't do that. I can do what I know."

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He said, "No, I want that only

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"because the story's about a choreographer

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"and there's Madhuri there and there's Karisma Kapoor there."

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So I said, "OK, Madhuri, let me see."

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There was a song I did with Karisma and Madhuri.

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It was in a small little area and they were competing,

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the two best dancers in the industry,

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and it was like a battle, a dance battle.

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MUSIC PLAYS

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And it was quite difficult

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because suddenly they had to do these jazz or contemporary movements

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and they're used to doing only Bollywood stuff

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so they were like blown out of their heads, they had to adjust,

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but they worked so hard that it just turned out to be a cult film

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in the end so I was happy.

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Can you spot the actors who can dance and the actors who can't?

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It's very easy to get somebody.

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I'm still trying to pin you down to exactly...within ten seconds.

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-Is it grace? Is it co-ordination?

-See?

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You moved your arms extremely well now.

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See? That means you can dance.

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THEY CHUCKLE

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Come. We're going to teach Sanjeev a step.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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-Sexy boy.

-Fat guy at the front. OK?

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-So...?

-Step together.

-Yeah.

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-Step...together. Now, we're going to add the pelvic with it.

-Right, OK.

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So, we're going to go...

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HE IMITATES BEAT

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You know you're quite good.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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I've just realised the one thing that those moves, those dances did,

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was stop aunties requesting songs at weddings

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because prior to that, they would say,

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"Oh, come on, play that song from Kati Patang."

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And then this. Aunties trying to keep up with that would be too much.

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BOYS CHEER

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Left, right, left. Left, right, left. Left, right, left.

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But then there was a surprising development.

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After a few years,

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dreaming of new lives in New York or London,

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Indian film-makers turned their gaze back,

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reclaiming the elements of Indian cinema that made it unique.

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There were a lot of films being made for the people of Indian

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origin living outside of India.

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I didn't do too many of those, you know?

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I remember when we were making Lagaan, people were saying...

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I mean there were many reasons why Lagaan was not supposed to work

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and some of them were the fact that it was not a romantic film shot

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in Switzerland where the actors and actresses were not wearing DKNY

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and you were wearing totis and bundis

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and you were speaking in Awadhi.

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I decided that if this film has to be produced then

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I have to produce it myself and I was never a producer

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but I got into production in order to get that film made.

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Lagaan is a Raj-era drama about a group of Indian villagers

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who are forced to play cricket against their British oppressors

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in a match with life-or-death stakes.

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And the film won the hearts of audiences all over the world.

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-Finally, got the damned creature.

-Good shot.

-Thank you.

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Anyway, it did really well and all of us were really pleased.

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It did really well in Germany, in the UK, in the US.

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It was nominated at the Academy Awards for Foreign Language

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so we were really thrilled, the entire team was really thrilled

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with the kind of emotional connection it had with people across the globe.

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Music and dance is an essential part of...

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-Indian cinema.

-..Indian cinema.

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Is that part of a formula

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or is that something to do with how Indians are?

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Music and song...

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-helps you to sharpen an emotion.

-Mm-hm.

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So, you've seen Lagaan.

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When the film begins, there's no rain, it's not raining.

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And the village is going through troubled times,

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it hasn't rained for two years.

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And then they see this cloud. And they get electrified.

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Man, it's going to rain and there's a song over it.

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MAN SPEAKS IN OWN LANGUAGE

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THUNDER CRACKS

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CHILDREN CHEER

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MUSIC PLAYS

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And they sing with abandon because they feel it's finally going to rain.

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THEY SING IN OWN LANGUAGE

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And the cloud comes and it passes, it doesn't rain.

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And they're left stranded and it's like a deep dejection.

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-Now, this sharpening of emotion happens because of that song.

-Mm-hm.

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If you remove that song, the story will still remain the same,

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it's a place where it hasn't rained, and the story will move on.

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But the fact that they get so excited when they see one cloud

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and the whole village starts celebrating the rain as it's

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about to approach, so that song helps you to sharpen the emotion.

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THUNDER CRACKS

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SHE SPEAKS IN OWN LANGUAGE

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Now, the interesting thing about Aamir Khan is that he's been able...

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In a way, he's kind of like a George Clooney

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in that he's political - small P - he's got a social conscience

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so he makes interesting, social conscience films

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but the film that he then acted in which caught everyone by surprise

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was 3 Idiots.

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THEY SPEAK IN OWN LANGUAGE

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The story of 3 Idiots is there are three friends and one of them

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has disappeared and the other two are looking for him.

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The whole film unfolds with these two friends on a journey

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searching for their lost friend, they've lost contact with him.

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And they're trying to figure out where the hell he is.

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3 Idiots, I think, was the most basic simple story, you know,

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about three college students and I don't think there's ever been

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a greater film in the recent years as that.

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Did you know it was going to be a success? At what point did you know?

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I think it's the best narration from a director that I've ever

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heard in 15 years of my career.

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-Explain the narration.

-The reading.

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When he approached me, he called me to his office and he was like,

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"I'd like you to hear the script."

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And for four hours, he read out the entire script

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and I actually stood up in his office

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and I was clapping on my own that I'd never heard something like this.

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In 3 Idiots, Aamir plays a rebellious college student

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who defies the cold hand of authority.

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3 Idiots, Rancho was a lot of me,

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I walked out of every class in the Film Institute.

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They failed me, I'm a failure, they failed me, I didn't get my diploma.

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Excuse me.

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3 Idiots was a huge hit,

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at the time of its release,

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the highest grossing Bollywood film of all time.

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At its heart lies a clever reinvention -

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the angry young man of the '70s has been transformed.

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The action hero reinvented

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as a sensitive, lovable man of the people.

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Excuse me.

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Because I am very, very culturally connected with my culture,

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with India, and I want to live and die here,

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I love the way this country is, the people of this country,

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I think perhaps that resonates in my writing and in my movies

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and maybe that is why most Indians connect with it...

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because it is their culture.

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We do not have all day!

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Rancho, who is Aamir Khan in 3 Idiots,

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a lot of all that came into that character.

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So I mean I relate to that character totally and I'm so glad

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so many people liked it.

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We rely heavily on emotions, we're an emotional country,

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that's what our nation kind of relies on -

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our hope is based on emotions.

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And he just got everything right.

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THEY SPEAK IN OWN LANGUAGE

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Yeah.

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Who?

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You.

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I really loved 3 Idiots, I thought it was great.

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You know, it was devoid of any violence,

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it didn't need car chases, it didn't need explosions,

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it didn't need any of those things that I'd come to associate

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with the excess of Hindi films.

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And in many ways, I think,

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it's a film that harks back to some of those films of the '50s and '60s.

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I think there's a simple storyline, I think it's well written,

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I think it's well acted and I think the songs are great.

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MUSIC PLAYS

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It was old school, classic romance transformed on-screen.

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It was nice, it was simple and I loved it.

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Hindi film has been my kind of main experience.

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I haven't really seen too much of regional films.

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I've always known that they've played an important part.

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Satyajit Ray's films were obviously Bengali films

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and I'd seen a couple of those but, you know,

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I'd heard about how big

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and important the Tamil film industry was, for instance,

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but I just thought, "I don't speak the language, maybe it's not for me."

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And then people started telling me, "You know what?

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"Some of their films are pretty good.

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"I mean the production values are fantastic

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"and the shot selection is amazing and you should have a look."

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So I went to Hyderabad.

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Ramoji Film City in Hyderabad

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is the largest film studio in the world.

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Over 1,100 acres of ready-made movie sets, locations and sound stages

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all set against the evocative backdrop of the Deccan Plateau.

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Every day, thousands of tourists come from far and wide

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to marvel and gawp at the movie-making process.

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It's like the tour at Universal Studios but on a much larger scale.

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Here, punters can do everything from play

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a cameo in their favourite movie...

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..to having a go at special effects for themselves.

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But I'm here because alongside all the tourist attractions,

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there are a number of real movies in production.

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MUSIC PLAYS

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This one's a low-budget transvestite teen comedy.

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I've been invited to visit the set of a truly epic film called

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Baahubali, the highest budget movie ever made in Southern India.

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It's a fantasy with the scale and ambition

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of The Lord Of The Rings

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and the director, Rajamouli,

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is giving me a privileged peek behind the scenes.

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The story is very much layered but if you take the plot,

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it is quite simple.

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It is about a father who is murdered, a son who is thrown away,

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presumed dead, and he comes back and avenges the father.

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The story, if you take the plot, it is so simple.

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This film actually is a film of families, it's a film of deceit,

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it's a film of treachery, it's a film of all of those.

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My character in this film,

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the only thing that he needs is the throne,

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and that's where he's getting at and to be there,

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he will get everyone out of the way, whether it's his brother or

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whether it's his parents, so it's a hard, mean machine.

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The sheer ambition of Baahubali dwarves anything ever made

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by Indian regional cinema and with so much at stake,

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no footage has been revealed.

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But I can tell you that they're drawing upon the finest

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martial arts and technical professionals from around the world.

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Just goes to show that today, the massive commercial potential

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of films which appeal to Indians all over the world,

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allows for truly epic movies to be produced.

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The biggest film I have done before is 1/8 the size of this.

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Luckily, the market was also expanding.

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Where is the market expanding to and from?

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Mainly, it's US but now we are taking to

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so many parts of the world.

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Telugu is a race that started moving out of India in the early 1900s

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and they moved in to places like Malaysia, Taiwan, the Middle East.

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The second big migration happened after the rise of the IT boom

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that happened in America

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so you see a lot of Telugus who have settled in many different

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pockets of America, who obviously continued with their culture

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who are still modern in their thoughts and approach.

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So they kind of found that big Telugu industry in America.

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Telugu audience are very dedicated to film.

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Actually, if you can go to a big star film release

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in the smaller towns,

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you will see the print being carried on a carriage with music

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and dancing and throwing flowers and garlands on the print,

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the film print, all the way to the theatre

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and then from the theatres, you'll see 60-foot,

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70-foot cut-outs of the hero, garlanded, being pulled over the star.

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It's quite an experience.

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THEY CHUCKLE

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Another way in which the film Baahubali is breaking new ground

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is in how the latest cinematic technology is being employed

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to tell ancient mythical stories.

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Will this be entirely a physical set or will there be CGI?

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There's a lot and lot of CGI involved.

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When it comes to CGI, our principle is the thumb rule.

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The thumb rule is anything that the actors interact with is live.

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Anything that they don't interact with is CG.

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And because we wanted scale everywhere,

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it has to be scale length, it's impossible for us

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to actually build anything that we are imagining.

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Cutting edge visual effects have become an enormous growth area

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across the country,

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tapping into the world-leading IT sector and mainstream

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Bollywood cinema has also grasped the exciting new opportunities.

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I remember, as a kid, going to see Bollywood films

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and every time there was a special effect,

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-there was a little bit of me that was sick.

-Yeah.

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I kind of vomited inside.

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I never vomited outside because it's not my style

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but on the inside, I did.

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Just the quality of technique in Indian cinema has

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improved by leaps and bounds over the last few years.

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When you see some of the very interesting movies being made here,

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they could have been made anywhere in the world in terms

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of the quality of the cinematography, the quality of the sound,

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and in fact, the quality of the visual effects.

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I mean a lot of the visual effects in movies in the west are actually

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being outsourced here to India.

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What we didn't have earlier was we had the ability to technically

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work to a brief but we didn't have film-makers here who were

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actually creating those briefs for these organisations

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and you do have that today.

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I can't think of anybody else who has created a science-fiction

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franchise in Indian cinema.

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You must be the first.

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Yes, I think I'm the first, yeah.

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You're a pioneer.

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So can you just explain how that came about?

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Did you always envisage that there would be three or four

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-films in a story?

-No, no.

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One day, I saw Lord Of The Rings, I saw all three parts of it together.

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I said, "If they can do it, why can't we? Let me try."

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The result was Krrish,

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a blockbuster franchise

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which has already had three

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hugely successful instalments.

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Krrish was a journey.

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The first half where I established that he had a lot of powers

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but he didn't know what to do with them.

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And in the second half, we show how he uses his powers.

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And then the third, Krrish was a full-blown superhero film

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with a supervillain and all the characters in the film.

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Aside from the commercial success of this new franchise, films like

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Krrish have created a world-class Indian special effects industry.

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We have got good technicians in India.

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So I said, first of all, I will make Krrish 3 with Indian talent,

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so I hired Shah Rukh Khan's studio - Red Chillies.

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99% of the Indian films, when they are made,

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they do a lot of special effects,

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but they don't get time for special effects.

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I finished my film and I gave them 18 months to do the special effects.

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I said, "I should give the Indian talents a chance,

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"so that they also get used to it, and then when we make other films,

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-"they will be more experienced."

-Mm-hmm.

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Indian cinema has clearly come a long way

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since the cheesy rip-offs of the early eighties.

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And Indian films have evolved,

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the production values now are as good as anything in the West.

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We've got to a point now where Indian companies are investing

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in Hollywood production houses,

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buying into DreamWorks, co-financing.

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You've got it the other way round, you've got companies like Disney

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that have bought UTV and created Disney India to make local content.

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As the Indian movie industry has developed at an exponential rate

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in recent years, with a huge growth in global revenue,

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multinational film studios like Sony and Disney

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have learned from their previous attempts to

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crack the Indian market and adopted a much smarter business model.

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We're actually the Indian arm of the Walt Disney Company,

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and what the Walt Disney Company is doing in India is being able

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to understand what the audience tastes and preferences are.

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It's not like you're just taking one product

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and saying it's a one size fits all, you're actually modifying it

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to suit the local tastes and preferences of an audience there.

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In recent years,

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Indian cinematic tastes have widened,

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to include new genres like sci-fi and historical fantasy.

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But they haven't left more traditional fare behind.

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HE SINGS IN OWN LANGUAGE

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Chennai Express is a great example of how the industry has moved on.

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SHE INTERRUPTS IN SONG

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A classic Bollywood romance with great songs and major stars,

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it was financed and distributed globally,

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and became one of the highest grossing films in Indian history.

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What I think is really interesting over the last few years

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is that studios have come in here

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and started making local language movies.

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Realising that India really is a local market,

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and that we like our own heroes, our own heroines, I mean,

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we are a movie-obsessed nation.

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There are three billion admissions in this country every year,

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which is pretty much half the population of the globe.

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If you think about that, it's a pretty staggering statistic,

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to imagine that three billion footfalls go into

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movie theatres in this country every year.

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In cinema, what really counts at the end of the day is

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-how many people have seen it.

-Mm-hmm.

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And we have more people to offer than any other country in the world.

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And the thing with the multiplexes,

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which have now started to come in, is that they've

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kind of allowed room now for other kinds of Indian films to be made.

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So, in addition to the blockbusters that we still have -

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the latest of which is Dhoom 3,

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which kind of broke all box office records,

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people are flocking to them as they always did -

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but there's also emerging quieter voices,

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in a resurgence of parallel cinema, or art cinema.

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Recent successes like The Lunchbox

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and Dev D have proven

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that Indian arthouse - or "parallel" cinema -

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has been resurrected, and has managed to reach out to what

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were previously mainstream audiences both in India and around the world.

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The line between art and commercial cinema has blurred

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over the last decade, and we've seen more and more of that.

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In the '80s you had movies that were art cinema,

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they were watched on dual version,

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they'd probably get a theatrical release

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of two or three prints in the key cities, and that's pretty much it.

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And they would win national awards and be critically appreciated,

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but a mainstream audience would still not have access to them

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unless they saw it on television.

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But today, you've got movies like Dev D or Kai Po Che!,

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films that we have made in the last five years that are actually

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themes that might have been called art cinema in the '80s,

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but which are actually enjoying massive commercial success today.

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The most recent break-out hit from out of left field is The Lunchbox.

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It's an intimate story about a lonely man who exchanges

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love letters with the woman who makes him lunch.

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A surprise commercial success, it's also won awards

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and critical acclaim at festivals around the world.

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This is the biggest myth that we have lived with all these days,

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we have been told that our cinema does not have that kind of reach

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and people don't want to watch films from India, and really,

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they are films, if we make them more universal, we can always reach out.

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It happened with Lunchbox, it happened with Wasseypur,

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it's happening with...

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-And Lunchbox has been released in some 91 countries.

-Mm-hmm.

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I saw it in London.

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It has found a commercial audience,

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and that's a film that we actually marketed and distributed in India.

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And it did tremendously well.

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It is an English film at the end of the day,

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with a very Western sensibility, a very European style of film-making.

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It takes its time, the pace of the narrative is slow

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and it tells a very intimate story,

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but it resonated tremendously

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-in India, it did great business.

-Mm-hmm.

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But what's really interesting is, you've got your

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mass commercial entertainers working at the same time.

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It's not like they're going anywhere,

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so a Salman Khan or Akshay Kumar movie today

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is still doing great business, but a Lunchbox and a Kai Po Che!

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are also doing great business. So the audience tastes have broadened.

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It's still the same guy going and watching both movies,

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but he wears a different hat.

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When he goes in to watch Akshay Kumar he leaves his brains at home,

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and he says, "I'm just going to have a good time."

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My journey now is almost at an end, and it's strangely fitting

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that my last encounter with Bollywood should be here in London.

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I'm on the set of a brand-new thriller which is

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currently shooting at Tower Bridge.

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The film, Phantom, stars Katrina Kaif and Saif Ali Khan,

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and it's a truly international production.

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The journey is very international,

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because Kabir likes to shoot in exciting places, so we made an effort

1:22:321:22:37

to shoot in Kashmir and Beirut, and to shoot...

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This is probably the easiest part.

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We shot in north India, which was quite rough,

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because it's very crowded.

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It's not easy to set up a camera and make something look

1:22:481:22:51

the way it is, because there are people everywhere for a start.

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Somehow in England we're trying to put people in the background,

1:22:531:22:56

whereas in India we're trying to get rid of them.

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SANJEEV LAUGHS

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While always keeping an eye on the box office,

1:23:001:23:03

commercial Indian cinema now has the confidence

1:23:031:23:05

to make more challenging movies too.

1:23:051:23:07

When I joined films, we were told to put our personal thoughts

1:23:071:23:11

and feelings onto a back burner and to do what is required,

1:23:111:23:16

because ultimately we're catering to a market,

1:23:161:23:19

and now that market is becoming very much like we think.

1:23:191:23:22

So that's very exciting and liberating, that you can think

1:23:221:23:25

and have ideas and act on a sensibility that is yours,

1:23:251:23:28

rather than trying to cater to what I would call

1:23:281:23:32

a simple people in a simple way.

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It can get more interesting in terms of stories that people wouldn't have

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made five or ten years ago because they wouldn't have seen

1:23:411:23:44

any financial value in making that story,

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they would have called it niche.

1:23:461:23:47

When I started my career,

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Aditya Chopra said I'm a multiplex hero,

1:23:491:23:52

meaning I'm not Shah Rukh Khan, doing things for all India.

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And that I should focus on something like that,

1:23:591:24:01

and now, just a few years later, a multiplex hero would have

1:24:011:24:06

many takers for being an extremely lucrative professional.

1:24:061:24:09

But now, I've got choice.

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So I can go and see Lunchbox and feel fulfilled,

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I can go and see Dhoom 3 and feel fulfilled,

1:24:161:24:19

and - as I did - I can go and watch them both...

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and feel doubly fulfilled.

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Where it's headed?

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A lot of people look to Bollywood as a surviving film industry that

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hasn't been totally taken over by Hollywood,

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and even though in our industry we have films like

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Transformers releasing, and we get a bit nervous, saying,

1:24:381:24:41

"Damn, we've got Transformers releasing next weekend,

1:24:411:24:43

"what's going to happen?", but they haven't taken over yet.

1:24:431:24:46

HE SHOUTS IN OWN LANGUAGE

1:24:461:24:48

While Indian audiences may have acquired a taste for

1:24:501:24:53

Western production values, the stories that appeal to them

1:24:531:24:55

somehow remain fundamentally Indian.

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Actually, India is the only country where Hollywood films don't do well.

1:24:591:25:03

And surprisingly, I had a meeting with guys at Sony Pictures,

1:25:031:25:08

it's the only country where the business of Hollywood cinema

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-has decreased in the last five years.

-Why is that?

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Because there's been a lot of co-financing, a lot of mergers.

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I think culture. I was very surprised when I was told,

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but I think it's because we're really different

1:25:211:25:24

in terms of culture, and we've still resisted the influence.

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If we made great films, like Raj Kappor used to make,

1:25:301:25:33

and catered to that market

1:25:331:25:35

and organised international distribution,

1:25:351:25:37

there would be an alternative to Hollywood,

1:25:371:25:39

and there is a large section of the world

1:25:391:25:42

that isn't American, that isn't basically...

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That doesn't think like a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant.

1:25:451:25:49

-You know?

-Mmm.

-So there's a market there.

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SHE SINGS IN OWN LANGUAGE

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The phenomenal growth of the global market for Indian movies,

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combined with its huge potential,

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mean that Indian cinema is developing at an astonishing rate,

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with films being made in every genre

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and appealing to all of India's diverse population.

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This really is a golden age of Indian cinema, as I see it,

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and I think as most people working here today in cinema see it.

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It's a time when all sorts of genres are working.

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As long as you're delivering an entertaining film

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that engages your audience, you don't need to be tied down to one

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sort of cinema, which you were for years in India earlier.

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And art and commercial cinema today are not really words

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we use at all, it's either a good film or it isn't.

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From the '50s song epics of the early years,

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to the golden age of parallel cinema,

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from the angry young man to hi-tech sci-fi,

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Indian cinema has come a very long way.

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From humble beginnings,

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it's broadened into a massive global industry.

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But somehow managed to retain a distinctly Indian identity.

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HE CRIES OUT IN OWN LANGUAGE

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Today, Indian films are reaching far beyond

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the traditional limits of Bollywood.

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So I kind of found myself falling in love with Indian film...

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in a kind of deeper and more meaningful way than I ever did.

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Because all the stuff that I got from Indian films

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from being a kid, all the nostalgia stuff,

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the sounds, some of the visuals,

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and the language of my parents

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and some of those very Indian moves in dance and music,

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are still there.

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So I think Indian film right now is great.

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I think it's involved in terms of its production values,

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how it looks, how it's edited,

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all the technical things are still great,

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and all the things that I used to love about it,

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I now understand the reasons why I love it.

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Thank you very much. Goodnight.

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MUSIC: Zoobi Doobi by Sonu Nigam and Shreya Ghoshal

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