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HUM OF TRAFFIC IN BACKGROUND

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You don't take your best pictures in the studio.

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You do them in the streets.

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The rest is bullshit.

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And you know it.

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MUSIC: Be My Baby by The Ronettes

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# The night we met I knew I needed you so

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# And if I had the chance I'd never let you go

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# So won't you say you love me?

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# I'll make you so proud of me

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# We'll make them turn their heads every place we go

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# So won't you please... #

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Welcome to Harrodsburg, home of the 1%.

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Playground of the super-rich.

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Wicked! Whoa!

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I'm telling you, you wouldnae believe the things you see around here.

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Whoa!

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Yeah, take my picture. Go. There you go.

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Wow! You're beautiful.

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I love you!

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'Aye, so I come from Glasgow.

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'I joined the Army straight out of school.

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'When I left, I bought and sold cars for a bit

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'then I got into photography seriously about ten years ago.

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'I bought my first camera in Nepal when I was backpacking.

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'I took a lot of travel pictures and probably thought I was a bit of a

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'Martin Parr at the time.

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'When I started taking pictures in Knightsbridge,

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'I was doing people on the buses.

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'I'd read about how the average life expectancy in Kensington and Chelsea

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'was 87 for women and 84 for men.

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'But in The Calton, in Glasgow, it's 54 for men.

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'So I took the pictures of people on the buses in both places,

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'catching them at traffic lights, shooting through the window.

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'But Knightsbridge, it's like another world.

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'The people round here, the money, it's unreal.

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'There's sort of like a lot of human theatre and drama on the streets.

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'So I just came back shooting and shooting and shooting.'

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Look at her. Look, she's nice, isn't she?

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Do you like her?

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Beautiful!

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Aye, you look gorgeous.

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Probably that one.

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It's the recoil.

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MAN CONVERSES ON PHONE

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BLEEP

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So basically, you come to a bit like this.

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You always have the same aperture on, F-11,

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and a shutter speed controls the background.

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See, the aperture controls the amount of flash hitting the subject,

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so it's all set at manual, it's all set at 80 centimetres

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just under a metre and, actually,

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I can't see here because of the flash gun,

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so I actually just Tippex the markings on here

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and then that's a metre, that's two metres, that's 50 centimetres.

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You know what your shutter speed is,

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you know what the lighting's like.

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You keep going. And then something might happen

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and it's just out of the corner of your eye

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and that's when you get the good picture.

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Oh! We like this. Look, whaay!

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Oh, we like all the bags and look at all that, eh?

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Phwoaa!

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That's the sparkle.

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This is how these things work, because it's your preconceptions.

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She could be...she could be a billionaire.

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The thing about the money is, it's all out there.

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It's all on display.

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It's part of the whole show, you know.

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So I'm just capturing that, really.

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The area is changing, you know.

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The Sloanes, and the old money.

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They're all dying out and the new breed's coming in.

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They've got even more money.

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It's all crazy.

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Wow! I say, guys.

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Yeah, they're always here.

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Wow! Wow!

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Watch my toes!

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They're a bit too smiley, although I don't mind the smiley one.

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That's quite nice.

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Excuse me. I'm taking pictures here. You need to move.

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So, these photos. They're going to be in a book,

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it's going to be called Harrodsburg.

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That's my title for it, Harrodsburg.

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The Sunday Times ran something and they got Peter York to write about it.

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He's good, Peter. He knows more than most people

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about what's going on in Knightsbridge,

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so I asked him if he'd write something for my book.

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On the top of that block, famously,

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the most expensive flat in the world.

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-One Hyde Park?

-One Hyde Park, yeah.

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Do you know that when you look,

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there's something like only six in the whole of all those flats that

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pay council tax.

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-They're all third homes, tenth homes.

-Yeah, yeah.

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If you're here at night, there aren't a lot of lights on.

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Yeah. Lights out, London.

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Lights out, London, yes.

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The overwhelming...

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..feeling about...

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..what young Dougie here calls Harrodsburg

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is a certain kind of holiday shopping

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by people who seem to have absolutely limitless resources

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and have a very different style from the old Knightsbridge people

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and you can see that style.

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It's both nonchalant modest, yet fantastically bling.

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I just want to take the side bit of the glasses.

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There we are. Cool.

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You look beautiful.

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I mean, I could do them, but they would go crazy.

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Do you think I should do them? I've never ever done before.

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Wow-wee!

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Yay!

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-Oh, my God!

-See you later.

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'The average asking price for a property round here is about 2.5 million.

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'I mean, 2.5 million quid.

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'You read the statistics about London property prices,

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'it's all boom time again.

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'That's what they keep telling us,

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'but you go to Glasgow and tell them Britain is booming...

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..they'll laugh their heads off at you.

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ENGINE REVS

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Show this to people...

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..in Liverpool, Newcastle and Glasgow.

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Show them what's going on. This is what you want to show them.

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They come here, spend the money and that's all right.

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I'm not bothered about them displacing the local residents,

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traditional residents, whatever you want to call them,

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with the mustard chinos and all that.

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I'm not bothered if they displace them.

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I mean, I'm not going to bleed purple pish out of my heart for them,

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you know what I mean. But I'm just showing what's happening,

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just, I'm just shining a wee bit of a torch on them, you know.

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It's like, you know, you don't shoot the messenger.

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'As far as other photographers go,

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'I suppose the one I admire the most is probably Martin Parr.

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'I mean, he was a big influence on me

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'when I first started taking pictures.

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'I've got to know him a bit now,

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'and he's bought 20 prints off me for his collection,

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'so I'm going to drop the last ones off to him today.'

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'Hello?'

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Morning, Martin. Dougie.

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Right, Dougie. Come up. How you doing?

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-Good. Good.

-Come in.

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So, more prints, eh?

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More prints, Martin. The last five.

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Whoa. Nice.

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I love this one eye business and that light through there.

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Is that a flash, or a reflection, or what?

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I think it's more a light.

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-Cos it's more than a flash.

-Mm-hm.

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And what's he dressed up as?

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Don't know! Some sort of prince or something.

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THEY LAUGH

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He maybe IS a prince.

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Yeah, maybe.

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Prince Farouq, or something like that.

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-I like the fact that you're in this.

-I know, I know.

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-That's great. Don't you think?

-I know, I know.

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I mean, was a guy like this OK about you shooting?

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Well, I just done it quick and he was doing a selfie and then, you know.

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That's good. I like the fact that you're in there.

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That's why I selected that one.

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He's got seven skins he's wearing.

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-Crikey!

-Leather hat and gloves too.

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What is this? Three, I don't know.

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What is it, alligator or what?

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Some sort of reptile.

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-Four, five, six...

-Totally disgusting, isn't it?

-..seven.

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Seven different skins he's wearing.

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He went a bit bonkers, that guy, actually.

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-Did he?

-Yeah. Yeah, he had a bit of attitude.

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So, what happens then, when these people go bonkers? What do you say?

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Well, the last thing I'd do is delete it.

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But, you know, you just kind of walk on.

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It depends. Sometimes you just feel like standing your ground with them.

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But do people say, "Oh, I'm going to call the police"

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-and all that stuff?

-Yeah, you get that sometimes.

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You go, "On you go. I'll give you the number - 999."

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You know, it's not any... THEY LAUGH

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-It's an occupational hazard, isn't it?

-Yeah. Oh, definitely.

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Very sharp, that, isn't it?

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-Crikey.

-That's probably about a 1/60th, 125,

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double flash arrests it little bit.

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-Double flash.

-One at the top. One at the bottom.

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So you get the... That's how you get that,

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there's not any shadows around anything really, you know.

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Great stuff, Dougie. Thanks very much.

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Thanks, pal. No problem.

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I think the first thing you've got to be when you are going so close to

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people is absolutely bold and confident and, you know,

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he's just got the brash sort of attitude

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that cuts through all the shit and means you can go up to people.

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It's a very intimidating thing to do and a lot of these people won't like

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being photographed, because he couldn't give a shit, really, in a sense,

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if some posh Arab is going to tell him off.

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He'll just sort of shrug it off.

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You know, it's just street life, isn't it? It's in your face.

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It's brash, it's loud. And therefore it's absolutely appropriate

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for the times that we live in.

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'When I first started taking pictures,

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'I wasn't really trying to make a living.

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'I was just taking pictures of my friends and stuff that was happening

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'roundabout Shoreditch where I live.'

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That does say Brick Lane.

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That's Gary, in fact. Let's see Gary.

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Here's my mate. This is Gary's club.

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-BBC Four. Doc on me.

-Oh, is it?

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-For a doc.

-Oh, that must be an interesting afternoon's work.

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What's the programme called?

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What Artists Do All Day.

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THEY LAUGH

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See you later. Bye.

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My first book was Shoreditch Wildlife.

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I used to take my camera out every night and go partying.

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Up all night at parties and then they're looking for somewhere to go after it.

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All day Sunday, people would be lying on the floor.

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It was all crazy times.

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There was a lot of drugs. And mostly cocaine was about then.

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It still is, but, you know, I don't...

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It's nothing to do with me any more.

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That's where I took the bagel shop picture with that mirror.

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I was just in there getting a bagel.

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I saw a taxi driver with a cabbie's badge on.

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I just took a him as he was looking into the mirror.

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Maybe two in the morning or something.

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That's where I shot that one where she was in the burqa,

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looking to buy a dress.

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And this, before it got built, is that picture, you know, the old guy,

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and he looks like the...old hipster.

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So I just followed him.

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That's where you get them off kilter.

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But it was crazy, because one time

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I shot someone outside the bagel shop.

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A week later it was on CNN.

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You know, all these pictures were on CNN.

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I'd only shot it a week before.

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It's crazy, you know, how things happen.

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That's what you're looking for.

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I used to buy and sell cars back in Glasgow, years ago,

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when I got out of the Army.

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Then I moved on to buying and selling camper vans.

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You have to find a way how you can fund a project that you're doing,

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so for me, it was through the camper vans,

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but also I could go to Blackpool,

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pick them up there and bring them back.

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So it was like a free trip.

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Blackpool was the first sort of like one where I said I think this could be a book.

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It could be a story, you know, I can keep shooting.

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Ended up in 30 trips to Blackpool.

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This is one of the pictures here.

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It was like a school, opera, pantomime, wi' them all.

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There's that one and this one and the cheeky one and stuff, you know.

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In every group there's a cracker though.

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And the bride in that, she looks like a girl-next-door type.

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I quite like her.

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And I seen the Subaru tattoo.

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Turbo Ted! HE CHUCKLES

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And he goes by with the dog.

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So by then I'd probably flashed at them a couple of times.

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That's how they're starting to get annoyed.

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You can see some of them going, "Who's he?" And that.

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And yeah, it helps if they're a bit drunk,

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you know what I mean. You don't know if they're drunk, but you just take it that they're drunk.

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Same with me. Sometimes I would be.

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You know, I've been here paralytic drunk before here as well.

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Cos if you're going up to take pictures of them, you know,

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it's just kind of like going up asking somebody to dance in a bar.

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If you've had a couple of drinks, it's easier.

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We're going to cut up here.

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Basically just walking to the... BINGO CALLER ON PA

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10p-a-go bingo. 10p.

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What can you buy for 10p?

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There's Eddie there. Look, talk of the devil.

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Eddie? EDDIE LAUGHS

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Hello, Dougie. How are you doing?

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-Good, good.

-Nice to see you.

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This is a real doorstep challenge.

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-This isn't set up.

-How are you doing, buddy? Nice to see you again.

-Good.

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-Are you all right?

-Yeah.

-What can we do for you, Dougie?

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Are you just having a wee day out in Blackpool, are yous?

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It's my new book. My new story.

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Well, your last one was excellent.

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-Oh, right. That's good.

-Really was excellent.

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-Yeah, yeah.

-Yeah, yeah. So, you approve it, then?

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Very much so. It was very good.

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I don't know if the council would have been too happy about it, but...

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-No...

-It was the truth.

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It was the truth. You were really showing the truth.

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# Every year when summer comes round

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# Off to the sea I go... #

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Here you go, bride-to-be.

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# I said when it was done, is that supposed to be me?

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# You properly mucked it up, the only thing I can see

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# Is me little stick of Blackpool rock. #

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You know, I always thought the pictures

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were a little bit like Beryl Cook.

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End of the pier, kind of like, saucy postcards, you know?

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Blackpool's like Las Vegas with a Victorian twist.

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Southerners, they don't come here.

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Everybody who comes here is all from... They come from Wales

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and a lot of them come from Glasgow or West Coast

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and they come from all your Durhams, Newcastles

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and Manchester and Liverpool.

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WOMAN LAUGHS

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Famous.

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PROJECTION SOUNDTRACK

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Are you the bride?

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WOMEN LAUGH

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This'll be a good one.

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Blow some bubbles? Blow some bubbles.

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I love these colours.

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Let's see. WOMAN LAUGHS

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This is where I took a picture of the lassie with the skint knee.

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She was just right here.

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The kebab shops are good, cos they are really bright at night

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and you can switch the flash off and just shoot through the windows.

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Just use the natural light.

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I used to go in at night and hunt about for pictures, you know.

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That's about the only kebab shop I've ever been barred from, in my life.

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Someone dressed as a crayon.

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You wonder where the green ones and the blue ones went.

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The cyan and the yellow.

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Look - you've got the pink and the red left.

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I just need to be a wee bit ahead of the picture, to be in the moment, you know?

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I know when they're going to fall down, skin their knees,

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get the tits out, before they're going to do it. You know?

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It's like I've seen everything.

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I only know what they're going to do next because I've done it myself.

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# Hey, baby, ooh-aah! #

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What I like when they're looking at you is kind of, like, the fourth wall,

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you can see them pointing and saying something to you.

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That's what I like. Where you can see people...

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expressions, emotions, you know, like, talking to you.

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What's up?

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But anyway, let's go.

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LETTERBOX RATTLES

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-Morning.

-Morning, pal.

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-There we go. See?

-Bye!

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More flash guns.

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You can't have too many flash guns.

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I've broke about four in the last couple of weeks.

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These are all the dead ones.

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I used to get them for about £10 on eBay and now they've went up to about 20.

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Yeah. These are all old dead ones here, as well.

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Usually what I do is end up gluing them,

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it's like welding so they end up like that, with superglue.

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Cos the bits break easy.

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I know everything about these flash guns, although, you know,

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I break that many of them.

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It's not working.

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It's another 20 quid.

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It's all money. It's, like, if one of these cables go, that's 45 quid.

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HE EXHALES SLOWLY

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That's superglued, then we'll be away, Jack.

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So we're going up to gay Knightsbridge and Mayfair and that.

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Surprise the day, ain't we?

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Eh?

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I'm starting to wonder is that me, an artist, now? That's good.

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Because you're here, now I can really call myself an artist, I think.

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I don't know... I'm just a photographer really, aren't I?

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Not exactly down on my luck, but not exactly making hundreds of money or anything,

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so maybe I am an artist.

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'I've been working on the Harrodsburg project for a 2.5 years now.

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'I've done about 70 trips up to Knightsbridge.

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'I've taken thousands of pictures.

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'It's probably time to wrap it up.

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'But, you know, there's always one more trip, one more picture to be had.'

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This is kept all like that for horses,

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even though you can't see any horses.

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So one time, when there had been old money

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and they'd have been going up and down on horses

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instead of going up and down in Bentleys and Ducatis and,

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I don't know... Ducati's a motorbike, isn't it?

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Stop!

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What is it?

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No? For what?

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See you later.

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Go, go, go, go.

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I don't listen to them.

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They're just going to say, "Oh, give me your number, please," and stuff.

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I don't know.

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See these ones on the double lines.

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What do you do with them on the double lines?

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Do you lift them ever? See, there's a big Bugatti there, are you allowed to lift them?

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But do you lift them?

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Why? Cos you'd damage them?

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Because if you damage a wing on a Bugatti, it's £1.5 million.

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It's not worth his, you know?

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The new money people own the Ferraris and Bugattis.

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They seem to hate getting their picture taken.

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They certainly don't stop and chat.

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Some of the old eccentrics that I snap, you know,

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they don't seem to mind so much.

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So, what's with the out-to-lunch nails, Neville?

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Everybody thinks it's an affectation, but the reality is I'm an artist.

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I work with my hands.

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A lot of time I'm working with paints and aerosol -

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black and dark colours,

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so all of that paint gets up and under my nails and just looks gross.

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It's just a bit of self expression, really,

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in this rather bland world we live in.

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Do you like the photographs?

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I'm not telling you!

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No, I thought your photographs were quite fun.

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I mean, you're obviously...

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you like to go a bit edgy, don't you?

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You're trying to rattle a few cages.

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You try to provoke a little bit.

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There's that bit of that in there.

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But do you think they're racist at all?

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-The pictures?

-You're showing it as it is and, let's face it,

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all the old school people, all the old, arrogant,

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English people that used to go there,

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that generation is dying out now.

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As interesting as some of them may be.

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And now it's all different wealth from different countries, isn't it?

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So, I think you're just...

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It's like reportage what you're doing, really, isn't it?

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It's reportage in an art format.

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-How big's your legal team, Dougie?

-Hey, you're looking at it.

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Hello. Can I take your picture?

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When I studied photojournalism for a year,

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one of the things when they looked at your portfolio to get in

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was you could see that you could get near people

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and that's something even a lot of photojournalists can't do,

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they can't go near people.

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Without them seeing them taking a portrait.

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You have to be able to get near people to take pictures.

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There's a point where you're in the picture, when you get that close,

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you are in it, rather than just here, looking at it -

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you kind of come in it.

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-Can you delete it?

-No. Bye.

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-Hey. That's private property!

-You're not allowed, OK.

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-OK?

-You're on video.

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Hey. You're on video here.

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Sorry. Hey, you're on video, you assaulted me.

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You grabbed this. You'd better run away.

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We're going to call the police.

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Well, bye, then. Go and do it.

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Cheerio. Bye.

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The whole project isn't about Arabs.

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It isn't about women.

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It's just that the women go shopping in these places more than men do.

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I'm not picking on women, but women do photograph better.

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Older women photograph the best,

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then younger women and then older men,

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and then younger men. That's what I think, anyway.

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There's a lot of them documentaries out there that are poverty porn

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and I think that this is like an antidote to it.

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To me, this is like seeing it from the other side.

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I'm not an activist, you know?

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That's up to other people.

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You know? Just show the pictures and they can decide.

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DOORBELL RINGS

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Hi, Dougie. How are you?

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-Good, good. Book edit day.

-Yeah.

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First edit.

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I think that Dougie is the best

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street photographer working at the moment worldwide.

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-There are some that fit into documentary...

-Yeah.

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..but actually what's interesting is not really that,

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it's the portraits.

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That's great. That's great, of course.

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A street photographer needs to be very curious about people.

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-That one I love.

-You like that one?

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Yep. They are a part of the photograph.

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They're not just voyeurs.

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'Although they are taking pictures that are sometimes a little cruel,

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'they're not doing it out of cruelty.

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'They are doing it out of curiousity

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'and fascination with people.'

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I mean, I love her.

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-So, we've got a book then.

-We're more or less there.

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Yeah, no. Happy. It's looking brilliant.

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For me, a great photographer, an interesting person

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and someone I think who is going to be around for a long time.

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It's on a disabled bay.

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I don't think he's got a disabled badge.

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MUSIC: Rubber Biscuit by The Chips

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Can you kiss the dog? Do you kiss the dog?

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Look. He doesn't want to be kissed, here. Look.

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Wow, man. That's some car.

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Is that a Mercedes? Nice one, innit?

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I'd rather have that.

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That's my dream. That's how I started by selling camper vans.

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If I was still doing that, I'd be a millionaire, instead of...

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That or packing shelves.

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Packing shelves, I'd make more money.

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