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Nazi war criminal Hermann Goering. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
A member of Hitler's inner circle, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
and a leading architect of the extermination of the Jews. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
This is Bettina. Goering was her great uncle. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:36 | |
Amon Goeth was the sadistic commander | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
of the Plaszov concentration camp in Poland. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
He was responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
This is his daughter, Monica. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
Heinrich Himmler was one of the most powerful men in Nazi Germany. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
Leader of the SS and the Gestapo. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
His great-niece is Catherine Himmler. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
Hans Frank was another of Hitler's closest associates. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
As Governor-General of occupied Poland, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
he was responsible for the ghettos and the death camps. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
This is his son, Niklas. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
Rudolf Hoess was commander of the Auschwitz concentration camp. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
His grandson is Rainer Hoess. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
For the descendants of Hitler's most hated henchmen, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
will the past always be present? | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
And will the future ever be free of guilt? | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
This is the story of how five men and women | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
have struggled to free themselves from the sins of their forefathers. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
The Institute for Contemporary History in Munich. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
Rainer Hoess wants to show a family heirloom to journalist Eldad Beck. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
This fireproof chest, weighing 40 kilos, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
was a gift from Himmler to Rainer's grandfather, Rudolf Hoess. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:29 | |
As a boy, Rainer was sure the box would reveal yet more horrors | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
of his grandfather's reign as the Auschwitz commander. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
But instead, the box contained a series of photographs, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
documenting the private life of the Hoess family. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
Rainer's father and his brother and sisters | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
growing up in a grand house, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
separated from the gas chambers by just a few yards. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
This is what he wanted Eldad to see. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
Rainer's father is the younger of the two boys in these pictures. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
He grew up in this idyllic villa, in the grounds of Auschwitz. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
Journalist Eldad Beck is a third-generation holocaust survivor. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
Rainer and Eldad agree to make the journey to Auschwitz together. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
The descendent of a Holocaust survivor and the grandson of a man found guilty of genocide. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
Niklas Frank, a generation older than Rainer, was able to witness | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
some of the horrors of Hitler's Holocaust at first hand. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
Childhood for the descendants of the Third Reich | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
could never be entirely innocent. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
For many, it was also devoid of any parental love. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
On the train to Auschwitz, where his father spent his early childhood, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:18 | |
Rainer Hoess recalls a cold, distant relationship. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
Niklas Frank's childhood was equally devoid of parental love. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
Monika Goeth was only one-year-old when her father was tried | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
and hung for the murder of tens of thousands at Poland's Plaszow concentration camp. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
She was brought up by her mother, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
as if the horrors of Plaszow had never happened. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
She refers to her father by his first name, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
Amon. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
As she grew up, Monica began to question | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
this rose-coloured version of her father's history. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
And she confronted her mother. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
Niklas Frank has written books about his parents and what it was like | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
growing up as the son of one of the leaders of the Third Reich. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
He describes how his mother loved going shopping in her Mercedes, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
escorted by the SS. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
Niklas tours Germany, reading extracts from his work. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
He presents his parents as he continues to see them, as monsters. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:38 | |
And he is equally tough on himself. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
Here, he describes a day out to visit a concentration camp. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
Katrin Himmler thought she had a good relationship with her father | 0:19:33 | 0:19:39 | |
until she started to research into the family's past. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
Katrin's family descended from one of the most notorious of all Nazi war criminals. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
Her grandfather was the brother of Gestapo and SS Chief Heinrich Himmler. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
Bettina Goering remembers her grandmother denying | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
there had been any wrongdoing by the family at all. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
I was like 11, 12, something like that. | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
We saw a documentary about the Holocaust on TV | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
and she was there and she'd say, "It's all lies, it's all lies!" | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
And we went, like, "How can you say that? Look at all that happened." | 0:22:07 | 0:22:12 | |
So I remember that there was...big fighting already, yeah, at home. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:17 | |
So, yeah, that's how those people dealt with it. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
If they would have admitted what happened, I mean, it would have been terrible. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
So best way to go is say it didn't happen at all. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
The night before his arrival in Auschwitz, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
Rainer is tormented by the thought that he might be recognised, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:57 | |
identified as the grandson of the concentration camp commander. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
As he tried to go to sleep that night, he realised that | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
another source of anxiety was the pictures from his grandfather's box. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
In particular, the photograph of the gate, which separated | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
the grand home from the horrors of the concentration camp. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:20 | |
The Gate to Hell began to symbolise for Rainer | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
the doorway he was stepping through himself to face | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
and to try to separate himself from the full weight of his past. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:54 | |
Sooner or later, all these sons and daughters of the Third Reich have looked through that gate | 0:25:09 | 0:25:15 | |
to have the horrors of their forefathers revealed to them. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
For Monika Goeth, the chance came in the form of Manfred, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
the owner of a bar in Munich. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
Amon Goeth was portrayed by Ralph Fiennes in the film Schindler's List. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:50 | |
It was this film that finally brought home to Monika | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
the full horror of her father's history. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
Monika left the cinema suffering from shock. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
She now knew what her father had been. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
Auschwitz was organised as the first. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
The commandant, the organiser, appointed for this place was Rudolf Hoess. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
Rainer arrived at Auschwitz fully aware of the reputation | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
of his grandfather, Rudolf Hoess. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
And he had known about the villa, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
the idyllic home on the edge of hell, for most of his adult life. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
But he was now about to see it for himself for the first time. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:42 | |
The gate... | 0:30:42 | 0:30:43 | |
My private hell. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
Rainer is immediately drawn to the gate, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
and looks again at the photographs of his own father as a boy, | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
growing up in the shadow of the gas chambers. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
The boy who would grow up still enamoured with the Third Reich. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
RAINFALL | 0:31:05 | 0:31:06 | |
Horrible, horrible. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
Here, they are murdering people... | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
Millions. Childs. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
And they bring their families here and they, you know, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
they grow their families here, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
and, you know, everything is just as normal as it should be. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
Horrifying. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
Entering the villa itself, the guide points out how close | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
the family would have been to the gas chambers. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
You see? And small garden. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:44 | |
And small garden. Yeah? | 0:31:47 | 0:31:48 | |
Yeah. We go visit inside. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
So we close this... | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
Yeah. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:56 | |
And the small gardens. You see? And walls from camp, you see? | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
Yeah. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:01 | |
-You see? -Yeah. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:02 | |
So they are so close, the whole family, close to the chambers. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
Yeah. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
Your father grew up with this. With the smell. With the smoke. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
When they pick up the strawberries, my grandmother said, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
"Please wash it first, because it smells," about ashes, you know. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:27 | |
BELL TOLLS | 0:33:03 | 0:33:04 | |
BELL TOLLS | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
It took Rainer until he was in his mid-40s to make this trip. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:34 | |
Some of the descendents of the Third Reich don't get this far. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
Others have denied, ignored or turned away. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
For Himmler's great-niece Katrin, the shadow of the Holocaust | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
hung more heavily over her when she travelled abroad. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
Good girl. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
For Bettina Goering, on the other hand, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
getting away from Germany was a huge step forward | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
on the way to coming to terms with her past. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
She now lives in Santa Fe, New Mexico. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
I haven't lived in Germany for 30... I don't know, some years. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:37 | |
35 years by now. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:38 | |
It is easier for me to deal with the past of my family from this great distance. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:49 | |
It's not our life, you know, we have to digest | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
but the life of our grandparents or our parents, whichever. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:58 | |
And they didn't deal with it or they couldn't deal with it, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
or only to a certain point could they deal with it, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
and then you can absorb all that stuff, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
and now we have to deal with it, like, sort of... | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
You have to be almost psychic to deal with it. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
Bettina may have found it easier to face her past since she moved to the United States, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
but how much is that to do with distance, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
and how much to do with isolation? | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
We live outside of Santa Fe. Way out, actually. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
I don't think anybody has lived here for good reason, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
because there's very little water. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
We only get our water from rainwater, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
and we're off the grid, that's the other thing. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
There's no electricity. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
So we have to make our own, by solar, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
and luckily, we have a telephone company, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
so we are connected to the world through the internet or the telephone, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:57 | |
but, yeah, we're very far away from everything. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
And yet isolating herself in a distant corner of a foreign land | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
still couldn't excise all the demons of her inheritance. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
For Bettina, there was another, even more drastic, step to take. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:19 | |
Sterilisation. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
Niklas Frank thinks you should not try to escape your past. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:24 | |
On the contrary, he works ceaselessly to bring the past | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
to the attention of as wide a public as possible. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
Niklas tries to convince his audience that there is evil in the world. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
It exists. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:03 | |
His readings are a warning. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
Katrin wrote the Himmler Brothers about her grandfather and two great-uncles, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:48 | |
and she has mixed feelings about its impact. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
Katrin's book about the Himmler brothers | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
finally exposed the full horror of the past | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
that her family had tried to keep hidden. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
RAINFALL | 0:46:31 | 0:46:32 | |
In Auschwitz, an emotional Rainer has come face to face | 0:46:36 | 0:46:40 | |
with his family's dark past, | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
but he's about to face an even sterner test. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
He stands before a group of Israeli students, | 0:46:57 | 0:47:01 | |
unmasked as the grandson of the Auschwitz commandant. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
Ask questions. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:12 | |
Ask the questions. I think it's... | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
It's better? | 0:47:15 | 0:47:16 | |
Yeah, a little bit nervous also. It's the first time. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:21 | |
Why are you here? | 0:47:23 | 0:47:24 | |
Why are you here? | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
Warum bin ich hier? | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
To... | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
To see the horror what my grandfather made, | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
and the lies what I have all the years in my family. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
You say lies, what lies? | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
The family, my family lies. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
I was a young boy when I met my grandmother, | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
and I asked her a couple of times, what's going on with the name? | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
But there was no answer. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
I think a lot of these... Yeah. It wasn't spoken in my family. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:02 | |
Do you feel guilty for what your grandfather did? | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 | |
-Yes. -Do you feel responsible? -Yes. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
I feel guilty. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
SHE SOBS | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
It's a pleasure for me. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
I feel sorry for that what's going on with his family. | 0:48:55 | 0:49:00 | |
What would you do now if you can meet your grandpa? | 0:49:01 | 0:49:05 | |
Oh. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:06 | |
You want to hear that, what I will do? | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
I will kill him myself. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
CHATTERING AND LAUGHTER | 0:49:12 | 0:49:14 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:49:26 | 0:49:28 | |
The lives of Hitler's children have all taken different paths | 0:50:56 | 0:51:00 | |
as they have tried to face up to or free themselves from | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
the sins of their forefathers. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
But can they ever truly escape the shadow of the past? | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
These children of Hitler can never undo the deeds of their forefathers | 0:57:52 | 0:57:55 | |
but by confronting their shared past in different ways, | 0:57:55 | 0:58:01 | |
they have perhaps eased the burden of that guilt | 0:58:01 | 0:58:04 | |
from the next generation. | 0:58:04 | 0:58:07 | |
CHILDREN LAUGH | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:58:42 | 0:58:45 |