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The strip on the right-hand side of your screen | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
should be a good, solid black, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
and the one on the left should be a clear brilliant white. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
You're going to see a lot of photographs and it's important | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
that you should see them to the best advantage, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
so don't hesitate to adjust your set. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
MUSIC: Foot Tapper by The Shadows | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
As television rose, so photography boomed. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
Professional or amateur, it seemed like everyone had a camera. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
Public-spirited as always, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
the BBC tried to teach us how to take better pictures. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
Point the camera in the right direction and press the button. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
SHUTTER CLICKS | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
And you've made a picture - a picture in the camera. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
But the BBC has also inspired its viewers | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
by giving them unique access to the masters of the medium. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
A view doesn't make a picture. YOU make the picture. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
Try a new position. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
Pioneering art programmes have created intriguing portraits | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
of top photographers at work. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
Bring your head towards me. A bit more. Bit more. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
The fashion photographer, their finger on the pulse of glamour... | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
Now, that's marvellous. Now, hold that. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
..domineering personalities... | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
No, who told you to move? Go back the way you were. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
..and celebrities in their own right. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:16 | |
Stay, stay, stay, stay. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
The documentary photographer | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
on the hunt for those decisive moments | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
that define the modern world... | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
I'm interested in life itself. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
..no matter how uncomfortable they make us. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
But do you not get upset when you learn that you've upset someone? | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
I do. It's not my intention to upset people at all. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
The portrait photographer, revealing character... | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
..bringing us close up to stardom and beauty. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
She was always sort of golden looking, almost angelic. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
And the landscape photographer, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:54 | |
inviting us to look again at the places around us. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
I can't be happier than when I see a day like today, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
with great rolling skies, and I cannot be happier. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
-Lovely view, isn't it? -Beautiful. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
These treasures from the BBC's archive bring into focus | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
how photographers have captured our changing lives and times. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
# She's not there | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
# Well, let me tell about the way she looks | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
# The way she acts and the colour of her hair... # | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
Look, it's like this. Here's a lamp, a girl and a camera. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
Light from the lamp travels towards the girl. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
Some of it bounces off and goes into the camera. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
And it's this light that forms the picture. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
SHUTTER CLICKS | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
MUSIC: Jaan Pehechaan Ho by Mohammed Rafi | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
For decades, fashion had been the domain of a wealthy elite. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
But in the 1960s, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
the explosion of British youth culture revolutionised the industry. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
Suddenly, it was open to a new generation of talent. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
Bring your head towards me. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
A bit more, bit more. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
David Hurn was one of the first | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
of the new breed of fashion photographers. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
Directed by a young Ken Russell, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
this Monitor film successfully foresaw the prominent role | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
of the fashion photographer in pop culture. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
MUSIC: Jaan Pehechaan Ho by Mohammed Rafi | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
You're really producing an advertising picture, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
whose sole job is to sell the clothes, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
the manufacturer and the magazine. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
Now, these clothes have been put, by an expert, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
on a very rare kind of female | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
and her job is to be able to look elegant and at ease in them. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
And I have to try to produce as beautiful a picture as I can, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:05 | |
but in such a way as to persuade people buying the magazine | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
that they're going to look the same. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
Hurn creates a relaxed atmosphere for his shoot by throwing a party. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
Although, this just being the early '60s, it's a fairly genteel one. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
The Harper's Bazaar sittings are nearly always in my own studio, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:29 | |
which is also my home | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
and, as the people involved are all close friends of mine... | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
..everything's very informal and, to an outsider, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
it would look a little bit like an afternoon tea party. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
We play records and we dance and everything's very relaxed. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:48 | |
JAZZ MUSIC PLAYS | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
David Hurn's minimalist informal style set the template | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
for what was to come. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
# She walks | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
# Like an angel walks... # | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
By the middle of the decade, three plucky Brits, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
known as the Black Trinity, had taken over fashion photography | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
and their names were synonymous with the '60s - | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
Bailey, Donovan and Duffy. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
Brian Duffy's unorthodox methods were described by one of his models. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
She seems familiar. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
-I worked with Duffy quite a lot. -Joanna... | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
-Duffy's great to work with cos he's sort of... -Patsy? | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
You go in there and sort of three hours later, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
when you've finished all the bottles of wine that are lying around... | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
and you've sort of talked about everything and listened | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
to 100 records of old war songs... | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
..somebody arrives with a sort of handful of clothes, you know. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
Out come all the paper flowers. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
And he's standing there with a camera | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
and you have to go on talking. And he makes you sing, you know! | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
He won't take the shot, and he gets bolshy. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
"I'm not taking the picture unless you sing. Go on, sing!" | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
So, you have to sing, stand there singing in the studio. It's great. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
So, all the pictures are sort of dodgy birds with teeth showing, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
but they're natural. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
What one's trying to do is to try and make her look beautiful. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
If you don't do that, then you lose out. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
And she loses out and then it's a bore. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
I think there is a natural pleasure in making someone look...beautiful. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
# You really got me | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
# You really got me... # | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
The camera eye is vital to this industry, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
as are the men behind it - | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
the top photographers who deal in dreams. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
Open you mouth slightly. Good. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
The winsome David Bailey, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
who created the famous model Jean Shrimpton | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
and married the famous mother Catherine Deneuve, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
shows how to bring out the best in a woman | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
with a combination of charm and authority. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
That's good. Hold it. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
-SHUTTER CLICKS -Good, good. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Make that... Let me... No, who told you to move? | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
Go back the way you were. Come on, back the way you were. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
Good, and that flipping...hand. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
Yeah, good, there. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Bailey's signature style used a stark white background. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
It's kind of my way of making | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
everything minimal and just concentrating on the person | 0:07:19 | 0:07:24 | |
and getting rid of everything else. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
It's just the person I want. That's the only thing I want. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
I don't want anything else in. I don't want their hands. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
I want very sophisticated passport pictures, really, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
which are quite hard to do. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
Good, angel. Yeah, and it's nearly right, if that hand was nice and... | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
And here's Terence Donovan. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
Any resemblance to Austin Powers is entirely coincidental. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
OK, hold it there. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
And just, just push round. That's it. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
Excellent, excellent. Now, just a little, a little... That's it. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
Excellent. Just a little bit more, just a little bit more. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
But what about the models, staying still, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
looking pretty and being bossed around all day? | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
A really good model, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
when you're looking back at the camera, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
is completely involved in what you're doing. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
It's very strange, it's very magic. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:12 | |
One minute they're in a very dull swimming costume | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
and the next minute a huge fur coat, and they change. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
And sort of bring, you know, the face round a little, yeah? | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
Well, I mean, you know. You know exactly what I mean. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:27 | |
But there would have been no Black Trinity | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
if it weren't for Norman Parkinson, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
the daddy of British fashion photography. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
'The name is Parkinson. The other photographers call me The Governor. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
'My life's work is a constant search for beautiful women.' | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
In 1967, the BBC gave Parkinson the full colour treatment, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:51 | |
in a film that captured his world and all its jet-setting glamour. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
MUSIC: The Infant Phenomenon by Johnny Dankworth Orchestra | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
'You'll never see me hung about with cameras like a Christmas tree. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
'But I am a photographer | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
'and photographers are the myth-makers of the '60s.' | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
The film takes us through each stage of Parkinson's process. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
-Could I have your name, please? -Suzanne Bates. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
-Measurements? -Er, 33, 24, 34. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
He starts off at an agency, looking for the right model. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
-I can see that you're a sort 36-cum-24-cum-35 girl. -Yes. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:34 | |
'Many photographers might find what they're looking for here, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
'but it's just not my day. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
'So, not for the first time, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
'it's out into the streets in search of the raw, the rare material. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
'Just a minute.' | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
Do you mind if I speak to you a moment? Did you ever think of...? | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
-Did she ever think of being a model or not? -I don't know. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
Like a fairy godfather, | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
Parkinson plucks Pauline off the street | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
and whisks her off for a shoot, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
coaching her to become the next face of the moment. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
# It's the time of the season | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
# When love runs high... # | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
..the focus off her. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
OK, baby. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
# And let me try with pleasured hands... # | 0:10:19 | 0:10:24 | |
It's a silly thing to say, but give me more style. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
Remember that picture I told you | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
that you might do with your bottom stuck out? Let me see it. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
You can't stick your bottom out at all. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
It's a terrible thing to say, but behave like a model. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
-Stay like that, baby. Don't move. -SHUTTER CLICKS | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
Parkinson made his name with work like this for Vogue, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
breaking convention and shooting his models outside the studio. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
Babe, put the camera on. Bang. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
'While I'm working with Marisa, we're surrounded by the BBC. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
'But it won't really matter if they're in my shot or not.' | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
Ring somebody up that you really like. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
She's great down there. Do I have a film in the camera? | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
And one again. That's it. Stay, stay, stay. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
That's it. Good. OK, we're done, we're done. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
Shall we have a little hand now it's done? | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
-CLAPPING -All done! Thanks a lot to you. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
'We think we've captured Marisa Mell on celluloid.' | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
The only thing that worries me a little is the background. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
-I think it's a bit too busy. -I think it is busy. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
I think it, in a way, sets the scene. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
I rather like that feeling, you know. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
-It's got a sort of "stop press" quality. -Yeah. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
Parkinson's improvised setup pays off. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
The resulting picture has an effortless grace. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
MUSIC: Time Of The Season by The Zombies | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
In a final flourish, the programme pairs Parkinson | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
with the most famous British model of the decade. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
-Just adorable. Twiggy. -Yes? | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
We've seen... | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
We've seen lots and lots of very good photographs of you. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
-We've never seen you move. Would you dance for us? -All right. -So, dance. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
# Jimmy Mack, Jimmy | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
# Oh, Jimmy Mack, when are you coming back? | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
# Jimmy Mack, Jimmy | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
# Oh, Jimmy Mack, when are you coming back? | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
# My arms are missing you | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
# My lips feel the same way too... # | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
The entire 1960s distilled into a few moments of television. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
# Like I promised I'd do... # | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
MUSIC: Boys Don't Cry by The Cure | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
Fresh waves of youth culture would shift the fashion industry again | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
and by the early 1990s, a new photographer had emerged, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
strikingly different from her male predecessors. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
I'm talking to, I think, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
one of the most important photographers of our generation - | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
certainly a person who changed, dramatically, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
what we thought of as fashion photography. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
Before Corinne Day, it was one thing, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
and then after Corinne Day, it was a different thing. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
The pictures that made Corinne Day's name appeared in The Face magazine | 0:13:13 | 0:13:18 | |
in 1990 and they launched the career of our most famous model, Kate Moss. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
When I was modelling, the photographer... | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
The photographs were always about him, not the subject, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
and I reversed it and that's what I did with Kate. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
I captured her presence. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
# I wanna be adored... # | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
This picture has the quality of a snapshot. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
Corinne's camera responds directly to Kate Moss | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
and the photo looks spontaneous and natural. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
I guess, when I saw Kate, I just saw myself. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
She didn't like being told to look at me | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
when the sun was going into her eyes or to look into the camera | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
when the sun was going in her eyes. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
She pulled such funny faces | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
that she looked great | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
and I took photographs of her moaning | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
and pulling silly faces and just being herself, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
just trying to capture as much personality of hers I could. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
MUSIC: I Wanna Be Adored by The Stone Roses | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
Corinne Day's pictures of Kate Moss became | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
a landmark in fashion photography. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
They defined '90s' style. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
And her approach owed much to another photographic genre. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
# Adored... # | 0:14:34 | 0:14:40 | |
MUSIC: Sunny Afternoon by The Kinks | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
The 1960s were one of the great decades of documentary photography, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
as magazines and the new colour supplements | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
competed for the best pictures. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
The BBC encouraged viewers to take their own documentary images, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
using some slightly scary examples. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
The photojournalist composes and shoots his picture | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
while the action is happening. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
He cannot stop the action while he makes his picture, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
so he develops an instinctive reaction | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
which causes him to press the shutter release | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
at the decisive moment. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
Now, in order to take these kind of pictures, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
these unposed photographs, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
you've got to learn how to operate your camera quickly. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
It needs practice but if you practise enough, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
you'll be able to raise the camera smoothly to your eye, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
press the shutter release, bring it down again, just like that. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
At the decisive moment, up with the camera, press release, down again. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
Practise and practise until you can do it, at least as quickly as that. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
MUSIC: Gnossienne No 1 by Erik Satie | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
The "decisive moment" is a term enshrined in photographic history. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
It was coined by the man who caught these images - | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
a fleeting but revealing instance. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
MUSIC: Gnossienne No 1 by Erik Satie | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
Henri Cartier-Bresson travelled the world | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
in search of his "decisive moments" and, in 1960, the BBC joined him. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
I always have my camera, except for shaving in the morning. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
It's an extension of the eye. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
Photography is very much, to me, a physical pleasure, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
like hunting, except that we don't kill. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
I'm interested in life itself. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
It's a curiosity in the human being, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
it's a curiosity of what is going on in the street. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
It depends how far you're willing to dig into it or to scratch. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
And then you have to be as unobtrusive as possible | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
because, unfortunately, the camera is a very noticeable thing. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
Like everybody's got a fountain pen or a watch, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
everybody's got a camera nowadays. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:54 | |
It's so easy and, at the same time, it's so difficult. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
In photography, we are passive up to a certain point, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
and the world is active in front of us. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
We are active only in the fraction of a second | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
when we press and we decide it is now. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
It's just that choice which is most important. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
Whereas a painter, he is active and the canvas is passive. He creates. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
We don't create, except for that fraction of a second. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
MUSIC: Gnossienne No 1 by Erik Satie | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
Cartier-Bresson moves like a ballet dancer, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
pirouetting around his subjects | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
to find the most expressive, naturally-composed image. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
And it's true photography is a mania. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
You have to do it with a passion. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
MUSIC: House Of The Rising Sun by The Animals | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
One kind of documentary photographer is a breed apart - | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
the war photographer. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
# There is a house in New Orleans... # | 0:18:00 | 0:18:05 | |
No war has been so vividly documented, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
so dramatically photographed as Vietnam, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
and Larry Burrows has worked | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
harder at it than most. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
For seven years, he's returned time after time | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
to record the events of that tragic country. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
To anyone but a photojournalist, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
such persistence must seem an act of madness. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
He prepares for war like a soldier preparing for battle. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
He's a veteran. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:31 | |
During the last 20 years, he's covered Cyprus, Suez, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
the Congo, the Chinese-India conflict and South Vietnam. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
He normally takes 50 rolls of film into the field, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
one pocket for the exposed negative, another for the unexposed. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
The decisive moment for Larry Burrows | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
is when to stand up and when to lie down. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
# Down in New Orleans... # | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
If he lost an opportunity of making a memorable picture, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
either through fear or miscalculation, he'd live with it | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
for the rest of the story and hate himself for having missed it. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
There have been moments, yes, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
when your lips go dry and you sort of lick those, yes. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
And if there's anybody that does not, does not have any fear, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
then he's a complete idiot. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
# The only time that he's satisfied... # | 0:19:23 | 0:19:28 | |
Larry Burrows will spend as much as three days with a patrol | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
before he takes a photograph. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
He wants to feel accepted, on equal terms. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
He wants to share the soldiers' ordeal with them. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
Only then does he feel he has the right to photograph them | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
in their moment of crisis. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
UNCLEAR MESSAGE OVER RADIO | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
EXPLOSIONS | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
EXPLOSIONS | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
People that you had seen alive a few minutes ago suddenly were dead. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:57 | |
And you realise that it could have been you. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
Photography was credited with helping end the Vietnam War, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
by turning public opinion against American involvement. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
But was it possible to become desensitised | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
by repeatedly witnessing such horrific scenes? | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
GUNFIRE | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
Throughout the mayhem, he remains obstinately humane. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
Do I have the right to carry on working and leave a man suffering? | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
To my mind, the answer is no. You've got to help him. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
GUNFIRE | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
But not all his work is concerned with men at war. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
GUNFIRE | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
Well, there's the story - in fact, the last story which I did here, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
which was on a little girl, a little Vietnamese girl called Tron, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
and she was having a leg fitted for the first time. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
And her leg was fitted and she stood up with the crutches | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
and he was encouraging her to let the crutches be taken away, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
which he did. She held onto the bench. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
She just held on with this one hand. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
He said, "Come on, you don't need to do this." | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
And so, she gradually slid her hand off the bench. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
She was holding on with one little finger, then she took it away. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
And then she realised what was happening | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
and she was standing for the first time in many, many months. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
She looked up and a big smile came on her face. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
At that point, tears were running down my cheeks. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
And you cannot go through these elements | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
without, obviously, feeling something yourself. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
You cannot be mercenary in this way | 0:21:36 | 0:21:37 | |
because it would make you a lesser photographer. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
And so often, I wonder whether it's my right to capitalise, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
as I feel so often, on the grief of others. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
But then I justify my own particular thoughts by feeling that, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
if I can contribute a little to the understanding | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
of what others are going through, then there's a reason for doing it. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
In 1971, two years after he recorded this interview, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
Larry Burrows died when his helicopter was shot down. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
Images of the war fuelled the debate | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
about the ethics of documentary photography. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
The BBC invited the influential critic Susan Sontag | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
to air her concerns. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
Look at this advertisement. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
All but one of the group looks stunned, excited, upset. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:29 | |
The one who wears a different expression | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
is the one who holds a camera to his eye. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
He seems self-possessed. He's almost smiling. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
The others are passive, clearly alarmed spectators. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
Having a camera has transformed | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
one of these people | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
into someone active, into a voyeur. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
Only he has mastered the situation. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
MUSIC: Ever Fallen In Love With Someone by Buzzcocks | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
By the 1990s, a new school of street photographers had arrived, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
who were no longer deferential to their subjects. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
New Yorker Bruce Gilden was downright in your face. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
# You make me feel I'm dirt and I'm hurt... # | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
But by now, the photographers weren't being shown | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
much deference either. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
On The Late Show, Martin Parr was put on the spot | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
about his candid documentary photographs. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
Some of the images, as we've heard, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
have actually upset the people involved. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
Do you think it's acceptable | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
to focus on an individual in that way, to make a wider point, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
however uncomfortable that image may be for the person in it | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
and for the person looking at it? | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
People come up to me and say, "You can't photograph me. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
"I know my rights." The irony is, of course, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
that their rights aren't actually there to stop me taking photographs. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
You can actually take photographs | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
of people in public places and publish them. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
So, they say they know their rights, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:52 | |
but the irony is that, in fact, they don't. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
But they think that because they understand, perhaps, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
the power of photography or the power in the media, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
that they should have some input into that decision | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
as to whether the work gets used. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
Parr had to continue defending his work for many years to come. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
In fact, he became rather adept at doing it. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
Inevitably, because I was angry in the '80s | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
about what was happening in Britain, you had to, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
at the expense of individuals - and this has obviously been the point | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
where my critics have a good field day - | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
make photographs that show people in situations | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
where it wasn't particularly complimentary. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
When you had Thatcher saying to everybody | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
that we were a great country and people really seemed to believe it, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
this is the thing that really, sort of, would gall me, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
and this is why I would look round and find places like New Brighton, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
which showed quite clearly the country | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
wasn't the great country it was for everybody. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
Viewers were able to scrutinise | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
Parr's working practice for themselves | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
when the BBC challenged him to make a documentary film, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
using one of the latest lightweight digital video cameras | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
and pairing him with one of their producers. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
Martin thought it would be good to have | 0:25:05 | 0:25:06 | |
one known element in the project | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
and so chose tourism as his subject to film. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
-You're good at French, aren't you? -LAUGHTER | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
Eventually, I came up with a group of ladies | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
who were taking a weekend trip to Paris. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
They were from the former mining village | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
of Ystradgynlais near Swansea. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
Martin's most recent exhibition is a series of pictures of food | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
so, at the motorway services, he was eager to get stuck into the action. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
One of the things I wanted to explore was this idea | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
of just doing details and not having the wider situation | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
which you'd normally get with television filming, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
but just coming right in and going for very simple visual language. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:49 | |
These tight shots have the kind of objective quality | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
that's textbook Martin Parr. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
But he soon realised they couldn't capture what was really going on. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
Where's that then? | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
Is that for us? Can we go there? Can we go there? | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
What you notice is the more detached, cool approach | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
at the beginning had been superseded by a more involved approach, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:15 | |
where I wasn't paying the attention to the visual shot | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
that I thought I would be in the first place | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
and I was just letting the situation flow along | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
and I would be filming it almost by accident. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
They are beginning this afternoon | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
and they stop at a quarter to eight, I think. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
Oh, we could have gone to that, could we? | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
-I think that's a private party. -Oh... | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
I think, to a certain extent, I've been seduced by these ladies | 0:26:38 | 0:26:43 | |
and I've made quite a sweet film about them. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
In fact, it's probably more sweet | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
than I thought it would be in the first place. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
The sharp gaze of Martin Parr was clearly softened | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
by the ladies from South Wales, | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
revealing a gentler side to Britain's most acerbic photographer. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
SHUTTER CLICKS | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
MUSIC: Foot Tapper by The Shadows | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
Sitting for a portrait is an awkward business. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
It's hard not to feel like a bit of a lemon - | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
as poor Anya demonstrates for us, live on television. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
There we are. Now, you should be able to see the picture now. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
There is it. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:32 | |
There's Anya, and we're not playing games - | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
the picture really is upside down. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
But the greatest portrait photographers have sought to achieve | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
something altogether more ambitious than a simple headshot. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
From the earliest days of the medium, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
portrait photographers have used the camera | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
to immortalise and, ideally, to flatter. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
For actors and performers, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
a career could be made or broken by the quality of a portrait. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
# Stars shining bright above you... # | 0:28:00 | 0:28:05 | |
In the 1940s and '50s, Angus McBean was Britain's | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
preeminent theatrical portrait photographer. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
'I suppose I was stage-struck. The theatre was an unreal world. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
'It was fantasy. It was what you wished it to be. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
'I used to go to The Old Vic, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
'into the gods, of course, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
'and somehow or other, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
'I realised that what I was watching was something transcendental - | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
'I think that's the right word - | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
'and it was the acting of Laurence Olivier. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
'I used to take my camera and a couple of lights | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
'and get Larry into the corner of the stage and take a photograph.' | 0:28:46 | 0:28:51 | |
# Stars fading | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
# But I linger on, dear... # | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
McBean was the photographer of choice | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
for the biggest names in showbusiness | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
and his pictures were theatrical performances in themselves. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
# I'm longing to linger till dawn, dear... # | 0:29:06 | 0:29:11 | |
He began by experimenting with surrealism in the 1930s... | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
..creating elaborate photomontages in his studio. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
'Strangely enough, I was born, I think, the same day as Salvador Dali | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
'and his work has always fascinated me, absolutely fascinated me.' | 0:29:25 | 0:29:30 | |
McBean combined surrealism with his commercial work | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
to create a unique, unearthly style of portrait. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
This 1951 picture of a then unknown Audrey Hepburn | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
is one of his unconventional masterpieces. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
McBean was the master of artifice. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
He played with camera techniques and lighting | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
to make his sitters look like stars. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
People want to look young, they want to look virile, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
they want to look attractive. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
You can move one light and you can make ten years' difference | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
to a person's appearance, and so why not do that? | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
Everybody wants to be flattered and, what's more, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
they'd go to endless lengths to be beautiful, with their make-up, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:26 | |
with the lighting, with the whole illusion of the stage, | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
all towards making them look absolutely glorious, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
so my job was to preserve this. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
This portrait of Quentin Crisp is a perfect example | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
of McBean's careful composition and flattering lighting. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
I only accidentally get below the surface. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
But if the sympathy between me and the sitter is high, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
then you do get under the surface in a very odd way. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
What I'm looking for is the skin texture, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:04 | |
the planes of the face, the physical outside of people. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:09 | |
The fact that it's the outside of their souls | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
is of secondary matter, in a way. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
The McBean look was widely imitated. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
Throughout the 1940s and '50s, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
Hollywood studios commissioned portraits of their leading actors | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
in a similar style. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
But one photographer rejected all this artifice. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
For her portraits of the stars, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:40 | |
she preferred a more down-to-earth approach. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
The traditional Hollywood still, you know, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
was to try and flatter | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
and titillate as much as possible. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
so that in lighting, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:53 | |
you would light it as though you were lighting up a cigarette pack. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
You would light for the eyes and the legs and, er, the breasts. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:02 | |
And so, each little bit became something very special. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
You never get a sense of the person. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
It was just that commodity that was being sold. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
And in the early '50s, I was just beginning as a photographer | 0:32:11 | 0:32:16 | |
and I got a crack at trying to get away from that traditional look. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
And I got a call from Marlene Dietrich, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
asking me to come to Columbia Records, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
where she was recording all those songs | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
that she'd made famous during the Second World War. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
I walked in and the studio was very stark. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
It was like a big barn, there was no lighting. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
She was sitting on a stool, singing away, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
and I just wanted the reality of that situation. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
I didn't want to flatter her. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
MUSIC: Doin' The Rounds by Humphrey Lyttelton | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
Eve Arnold gave the celebrity portrait a fresh modern look | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
and her work caught the eye of the savvy young Marilyn Monroe. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:59 | |
What happened was Marilyn had seen a set of pictures I'd done for Esquire | 0:32:59 | 0:33:05 | |
on Marlene Dietrich and she looked at me and she said, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
"If you did that well with Marlene, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
"could you imagine what you can do with me?" | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
Which I thought was quite wonderful. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
And she was very clever, she was... | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
When she sensed a camera - cos sometimes I didn't even know | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
there anybody else there with a camera - | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
suddenly the breasts would heave up, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
the back, the buttocks would jut out, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
and there she was. She was the movie star. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
The smile was brilliant. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
She was always sort of golden looking and because... | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
..she had a down, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
just very fine golden hairs all around on her face, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:47 | |
it trapped the light. It was extraordinary. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
I've never seen it before. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:51 | |
It acted as a nimbus, so that she looked almost angelic | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
and it was marvellous to photograph her. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
And the fun was to watch what she would do, | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
because you would set a situation, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
you would say, "Shall we do so and so?" | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
And she would say, "Fine, let's go with it." | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
MUSIC: I Wanna Be Loved By You by Marilyn Monroe | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
The BBC took Eve Arnold back to the location | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
of her most famous portraits of Marilyn | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
and Eve explained what it was like to photograph her. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
I'm not going to lie down - no, thank you very much! | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
It was always a collaboration between us. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
I don't remember where I began and she ended or the other way around. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
She was always having bright ideas. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
It was always her session, it was never mine. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
It was never the photographer's. She was in charge. She loved it. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
Eve and Marilyn enjoyed a truly creative partnership | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
and their easygoing approach | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
to what had been a rather rigid style of portraiture | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
produced genuinely surprising and touching images. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
Eve would use the techniques she developed with Marilyn | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
throughout her career. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:58 | |
Sometimes it's a great sense of excitation. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
You know you've got it. It's within one frame or another. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
Isabella, give me some stuff. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
'They're always successful if they tell something about the subject | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
'that I would not have expected to be given.' | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
Move your arms a little. 'Cos it is a collaboration | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
'between you and the person you're photographing.' | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
MUSIC: Have A Good Time by The Brand New Heavies | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
# Let's all just have a good time... # | 0:35:30 | 0:35:35 | |
Not just a pretty face, is she? | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
Din-dins. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:41 | |
There you are. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:44 | |
How's our dustbin dog? | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
Far away from the glitz of Hollywood, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
one of Britain's finest portrait photographers led the life | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
of a country housewife for most of the week... | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
..only commuting to London for a couple of days | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
to take her portraits for the Observer newspaper. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
When did you get interested in people then? | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
Um...I think they were rather forced on me. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
Although Jane Bown wasn't exactly a people person, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
she developed a singular style | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
which reveals these sitters' characters. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
Jane worked with minimal equipment and natural light. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
In each of these photographs, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
nothing distracts from the face, which almost fills the frame. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
That's better. That's it, that's it. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
When you go on an assignment now, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
do you always know who the people are and how...? | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
-No. -Do you try and find out about them? -No, no. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:52 | |
'But I don't think I need... I just see their faces. I don't... | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
'..necessarily need to know how they tick or what they do.' | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
You want to come over here and sit on my lap, darling? | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
'I purely just see things. I don't think about people.' | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
That's lovely. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
Do you think you get what you want? | 0:37:10 | 0:37:11 | |
'I go to town to get what I want.' | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
Yes, I need you looking this way. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
'And when I feel I'm losing... | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
'..and not getting what I want, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:23 | |
'perhaps sometimes I become a bit of a bossyboots.' | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
Look straight at me. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
On assignment for the Observer, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
Jane sometimes only had a few snatched minutes to get her shot, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
but years of practice taught her how to make the best of any situation. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
Right, what are we doing? | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
-I thought I might put you down there. I don't know. -Mm-hmm. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
But I'm going to start moving... I wonder if you can squat down there. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
Is it...? I don't know. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
I may be wrong, you see. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
-Can you squat? -Just here? | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
I just want to see what the light's like. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
-Very beautiful. -Now, I notice that the whole session took 18 minutes. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
Is that fairly standard? | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
Um, I like to think I have half an hour, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
but I'm usually quicker than that, yes. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
20 minutes is fine. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
-Bye-bye. -Bye-bye. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
-That was quick, wasn't it? -What a charming lady. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
I thought she was very pleasant, very nice. Straight to the point. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
MUSIC: Looking For Turner by Humphrey Lyttelton | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
In the late 1980s, Arena profiled a portrait photographer, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
whose work and life were a world away | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
from the prim and proper Jane Bown's. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
It's like you get to a place and you can do it with a flower, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
you can do it with a cock, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:50 | |
you can do it with a portrait, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
where you don't know why it's happening, but it's happening. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
You've, like, somehow tapped into a space that's magic. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:01 | |
The leading light of the New York arts scene, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
Robert Mapplethorpe was one of America's | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
most controversial photographers. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
MUSIC: What New York Used To Be by The Kills | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
At the height of the AIDS crisis, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
his work was openly and often explicitly gay. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
Maybe it was the forbidden because I was young, you know. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
That if I could get that across and make an art statement, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:26 | |
do it in a way that just kind of, like, | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
reached a certain kind of perfection, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
that I would be doing something | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
that was uniquely my own. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
Most of the time, people, photographers, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
who move in that direction have a disadvantage - | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
I think a disadvantage - in that they're not part of it. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
They're just voyeurs, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
moving in on a scene | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
and with me, it was quite different. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
They were most... | 0:39:56 | 0:39:57 | |
Often, I had experienced some of those experiences | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
that I recorded myself firsthand, without a camera. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
But Mapplethorpe's notoriety was matched by his skill | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
and in the '80s, he became the go-to portrait photographer | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
for some of the biggest names in the arts. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
Specially commissioned portraits | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
cost the sitter up to 10,000 a session. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
He often uses his friends for his models. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
Here, artist and musician Laurie Anderson poses | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
for her new record cover. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
INDISTINGUISHABLE | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
The whole shoot of... | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
..of Laurie Anderson was worthwhile for those two pictures. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:39 | |
I like them both with the eyes open and the eyes closed. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
The picture with her eyes closed captures a moment | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
that you're not so familiar with. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
Anyway, I think I have the... | 0:40:52 | 0:40:53 | |
The work involved in taking pictures is deciding which image | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
is the right image in the end. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
One of Mapplethorpe's more mischievous sitters | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
knowingly poked fun at his most provocative pictures. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
I thought it was going to be a catastrophe and I prepared for it. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:16 | |
I thought I could not imagine what would go on, | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
but I knew it would, everything would go on, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
er, if I was not prepared. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
So, even though I travel light, I did take a piece of mine. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:30 | |
Why did you choose a large phallus? | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
This gave me security and I brought this big... | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
this big, dark kind of one. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
You look, in the photo... You've got a grin on your face. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
Yes, of course, because I knew what people were going to say. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
But what I would like you to tell me... | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
I thought it was a good collaboration, right? | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
Because he's famous, not for his flower pictures, | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
but he's famous as a controversial artist. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
And this photograph fitted in his, in his album. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:08 | |
Right? | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
MUSIC: Lullaby by The Cure | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
Another New York-based photographer has repeatedly presented us | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
with images of herself, although Cindy Sherman's pictures | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
are anything but conventional self-portraits. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
Some people use a camera just straight on | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
and document exactly what they see, but, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
but I think it's more interesting to show | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
what, perhaps, you might never see | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
and, um...um... | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
It's showing maybe what's in somebody's imagination. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
Cindy Sherman's photographs are as distinctive | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
as any of Mapplethorpe's, but for very different reasons. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
These portraits conjure up strange figures and menacing scenarios. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
Sherman explained to the BBC how she began transforming herself | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
into such unnerving characters. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
I always sort of retreated into my room, | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
whether it was my bedroom or my studio and, um, | 0:43:06 | 0:43:11 | |
shut everybody else out and then would turn into these other people. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:16 | |
I don't know why and it wasn't about how lonely I was | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
and I wanted a friend, I wanted to pretend I had this other friend. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:25 | |
It wasn't really about that, it was more, like, | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
changing the angles of my face to become different faces. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:33 | |
# In the gathering gloom... # | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
Sherman revealed how her transformations became | 0:43:35 | 0:43:39 | |
even more elaborate. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:40 | |
I started using some fake body parts...a long time ago. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:48 | |
I guess it started out with fake noses, | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
as just an extension of ways to make my face change. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:56 | |
And then, probably around this time | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
that I shopped for a lot of these novelty things, | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
I found these fake breasts and fake asses. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
That's when the nudity started in with the body parts. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
# Quietly he laughs... # | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
Sherman employs props, make-up and costumes to cinematic effect. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
Her pictures look like still frames from a horror movie. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
And she's constantly on the lookout for new toys. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
When I'm looking for things for photographs, | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
it's not like a day-to-day or even project-to-project kind of search. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:38 | |
I don't look for things while I'm taking the pictures. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
Mostly I just keep my eyes open | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
for anything that seems potentially weird. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:49 | |
A bride. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
A child bride. That's... That's very nice. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:55 | |
Some of these are great, though. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
I can dress up my little preemies in these sicko outfits. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:06 | |
Cindy Sherman uses portrait photography not to flatter | 0:45:08 | 0:45:12 | |
or document, but to express the imaginary and unconscious. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
Through a photograph, you can make people believe anything, | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
so, um...it's not really the camera's doing, | 0:45:19 | 0:45:25 | |
it's really the person behind it | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
and figuring out ways to, um... | 0:45:27 | 0:45:32 | |
to...to tell lies, in a way. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:36 | |
When it really seems to suddenly click | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
is when I don't even recognise what's in the mirror. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
I mean, in a way, maybe it's like possession, | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
but I guess that's why I don't feel like it's me, | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
or it's a fantasy of some hidden desire, | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
because it's never planned out, | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
it's just like, suddenly, like this apparition is there. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
SHUTTER CLICKS | 0:46:12 | 0:46:13 | |
I was wondering around the coast of the west of Ireland the other day | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
and I rounded a headland | 0:46:20 | 0:46:21 | |
and came across this mountain in the distance. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
Without thinking, I pressed the shutter release | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
and, as always happens with these snapshots, | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
the result was pretty terrible. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:29 | |
The BBC invited its audience to think carefully | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
about landscape photography. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:33 | |
The mountain is obscured by cloud... | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
Transforming scenery into a decent picture takes imagination, | 0:46:36 | 0:46:40 | |
technical skill and patience. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
..And a few hundreds yards away, got a much better viewpoint. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
I put a filter on the camera and got the clouds to stand out, | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
got the horizon a third of the way up from the base, | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
and even got a white cottage | 0:46:53 | 0:46:54 | |
somewhere near one of the dividing thirds of the picture. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:58 | |
Even the most hardened photojournalist can be seduced | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
by the allure of landscape. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
SHUTTER CLICKS | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
'I want to be a photographer. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:06 | |
'I want my pictures to speak for themselves. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
'I don't really want to be involved in political punch-ups. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
'I want to take pictures of the English countryside | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
'without any other reason than the countryside looks beautiful.' | 0:47:14 | 0:47:19 | |
Don McCullin is Britain's most famous war photographer. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
For him, the landscape has offered a kind of therapy. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
I've seen every facet of life, so I'm much calmer now | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
and I'm getting a lot older | 0:47:30 | 0:47:31 | |
and there are good things about getting older. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
You calm down, you've done it all, you've calmed down, | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
you've had experience and you change your opinions. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
I'm thrilled now to go and walk over those fields | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
and do some landscape photography. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:45 | |
Cos, after all, if you've been to all those wars, | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
I take pictures to nourish my sanity. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
I can't be happier than when I see a day like today, | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
with great rolling skies, and I cannot be happier. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
And a couple of rolls of film in my camera | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
and I don't need anybody else. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:04 | |
All I need is the sky and the freedom. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:08 | |
The light's almost too good for me now. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
I don't like this kind of light. It's boring, | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
so I'm going to wait for those thunderclouds to come over. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
About another 15 minutes. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
It's too tranquil and too peaceful. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
In fact, it was two hours before there were enough black clouds | 0:48:28 | 0:48:32 | |
to make him really happy. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
McCullin's devotion to his light meter is legendary. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
Even in battle, he won't shoot without checking the exposure. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
It's coming together a bit. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
But landscape photography isn't just about capturing | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
our green and pleasant land. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
MUSIC: Disorder by Joy Division | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
Chris Killip is drawn to the industrial North of England. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:04 | |
What I was interested in taking this picture is the idea of placement | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
as people against industry, how dominant it is on their lives. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:14 | |
And yet, at the same time, how the woman is quite oblivious to it. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:18 | |
# I've been waiting for a guide to come and take me by the hand | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
# Could these sensations make me feel the pleasures... # | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
I tried to incorporate all the elements of the playground | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
but minus the children that play there. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
That's taken from outside the playground, | 0:49:36 | 0:49:38 | |
but you're looking INTO the playground | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
and you can see everything it's surrounded by. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
It's not pretty, but the playground isn't pretty. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
People live and work in what we're calling the urban landscape | 0:49:47 | 0:49:52 | |
and I'm going to where this activity is taking place. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
It's not something I'm inventing or creating out of my own imagination. | 0:49:55 | 0:50:00 | |
It's working within realism, | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
where the majority of people in England are living. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:05 | |
And this is what interests me about photographing that, | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
with existing conditions and in real settings. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
It's a new town in the North of England. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
I think it's the most awful place | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
and it's totally dehumanised | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
and surrounded by these barracks behind, which are the new housing. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:28 | |
Putting the people in the photograph is to try and give the idea | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
of what the human element is up against. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
MUSIC: Flamingo by Ronnie Scott Quartet | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
In 1983, viewers were able to witness | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
one of photography's all-time greats at work. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:54 | |
MUSIC: Flamingo by Ronnie Scott Quartet | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
Ansel Adams is America's most revered photographer | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
and the world's leading figure in landscape photography. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
An ardent conservationist, he has spent almost half of the century | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
exploring nature and recording its grandeur in photographs. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:14 | |
Born in San Francisco in 1902, Adams has never moved far away | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
from the sweeping landscape of his native California. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
Very good..for an experiment. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:32 | |
Ansel Adams spoke to the BBC just a year before his death. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
In this rare television interview, | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
he discussed his working practice and reflected on his lengthy career. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
This must be your most famous picture, isn't it? | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
Well, it's the best-known, I guess, yeah. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
It's, er, it's been rather popular. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
Does it bother you that this image has become | 0:51:58 | 0:52:02 | |
so popular and now become a museum piece? | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
No, I think it's good that people like it. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
I think sometimes the values could be, to an outsider, excessive. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
But it's completely out of my control. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
This could be seen and I just happened to see it | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
at an extraordinary moment. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:19 | |
And the picture was actually made with a leeway | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
of about 13...15 seconds, because the sun went off... | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
The crosses were illuminated from a very western sun | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
going along the edge of the clouds. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
Would you call this a perfect picture? | 0:52:33 | 0:52:35 | |
No, it comes pretty close to it, | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
but I couldn't find an exposure meter, | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
so I had to rely on what I do, is the brightness of the moon, | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
or the luminance of the moon, as we say. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
And I could have given it more exposure with a little more support | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
in the lower area, but I can't cry over spilt milk. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
Have you taken the perfect picture yet? | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
No, the best picture's around the corner, like prosperity. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:59 | |
If Ansel Adams had a British counterpart, | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
it was, perhaps, Fay Godwin. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
And in 1993, she gave viewers of the BBC's Countryfile | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
their very own masterclass. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
Just a couple of miles away, Sussex meets the sea - | 0:53:16 | 0:53:20 | |
in photographic terms, often a forgotten piece of countryside, | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
but one which Fay Godwin has been developing and printing for years, | 0:53:23 | 0:53:28 | |
documenting, quite simply, the way it is. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
OK, let's take a little look around here. What views strike you? | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
What would you take photos of here? | 0:53:36 | 0:53:38 | |
Well, I've endlessly photographed the groynes | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
and various kinds of sea breaks, cos I'm interested in the way | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
people are always trying to defend themselves from the sea. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
And they also make very sculptural | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
and interesting patterns on the beach. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
And the other thing is these land forms, | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
with the kind of mud flats and the moulding of the light on those | 0:53:55 | 0:53:59 | |
are endlessly interesting | 0:53:59 | 0:54:00 | |
and the colour is, of course, very beautiful - | 0:54:00 | 0:54:03 | |
that lovely lime green on the land. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:05 | |
What about the film and the choice | 0:54:05 | 0:54:07 | |
of whether you use colour or black and white? | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
Well, I like using black and white for rural landscape. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:13 | |
I feel it gets at the bones of the landscape better than colour. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:17 | |
I feel that colour is more about the outside. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
It's about the clothing of the landscape | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
and I'm very interested in getting right at the bones. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
I'm doing more and more colour work, | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
but it tends to be fairly close-up work, | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
and I use colour on the beach sometimes. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
MUSIC: Forgive by Burial | 0:54:31 | 0:54:35 | |
One of the things I find that amateurs do is so often, | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
they'll think, "Wonderful view, open space," and they take a picture | 0:54:42 | 0:54:46 | |
of the open view and they've got really nothing when they look at it. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
And I have a sort of war cry, when I teach on my workshops, | 0:54:49 | 0:54:54 | |
is "A view doesn't make a picture. YOU make the picture." | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
You have to work to make the picture. It isn't just there. | 0:54:57 | 0:55:00 | |
Just the sheer discipline of looking at the landscape makes you begin | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
to see things and see how the light affects the landscape. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
MUSIC: Forgive by Burial | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
-Lovely view, isn't it? -Beautiful. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
One of today's leading landscape photographers is Albert Watson. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:23 | |
But he doesn't just photograph the land as he finds it. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
Stuart, it's Albert here. Could you bring up a couple of sparklers? | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
Don't forget the matches. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
What I'm looking for is the kind of place that fairies hide, | 0:55:36 | 0:55:40 | |
you know. So, I'm just going to run a test here, | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
with some sparklers I got, and maybe some Roman candles | 0:55:44 | 0:55:48 | |
and see if we can work some of that sparkle into the shots here. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:54 | |
There we go. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:55 | |
Look at these two fairies working with the lights here. OK, hold on. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
-Now, just... -SHUTTER CLICKS | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
So, you don't have any kind of qualms about, like, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
-manipulating nature to get the shot, do you? -Not at all. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
When a painter... | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
If Monet's painting his Lily Pond, guess what - | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
those colours aren't exactly what was in the lily pond, so I mean... | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
It's... You're doing impressions of things. You're creating images. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:22 | |
Do you think it's going to go up? | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
What we're just adding on top here | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
is a little bit of, we hope, mystery, | 0:56:29 | 0:56:31 | |
a little bit of suggesting some magic here, which fireworks are. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
FIREWORK CRACKLES | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
Stuart, a little bit to your left. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
I'm sure there are times in the year when there is some mist | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
coming through here, but I'm not really able to sit here | 0:56:53 | 0:56:57 | |
for 365 days until that mist drifts through exactly the way I want it. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
That's about 20 packs of cigarettes you had there. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
Do you ever think, "What am I doing here?" | 0:57:13 | 0:57:15 | |
in bad weather conditions, or do you always want to go to work still? | 0:57:15 | 0:57:20 | |
No, I never think, "What am I doing here?" | 0:57:20 | 0:57:22 | |
I think, "I'm lucky to be here." So, er... | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
When you have a camera in your hand, you don't really, | 0:57:27 | 0:57:30 | |
as a photographer, you don't really... | 0:57:30 | 0:57:32 | |
You don't notice anything, actually. I can easily work ten hours. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:37 | |
I don't even need to eat anything. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:39 | |
So, you can just keep going, as long as you have a camera. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
Take away the camera, then suddenly you feel hungry, tired, | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 | |
thirsty, whatever, you know. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:46 | |
MUSIC: Familiar by Nils Frahm | 0:57:46 | 0:57:50 | |
That's my rush in doing photography. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:57 | |
You've somehow tapped into a space that's magic. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:02 | |
'Photography is an amazing business. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
'It's a piece of sensitive emulsion put inside a piece of technology. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:11 | |
'But, in effect, that's got nothing to do with photography, in a way. | 0:58:11 | 0:58:16 | |
'The true arrangement is in my head. That's where my camera is.' | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
'Sometimes, it's a great sense of excitation. You know you've got it. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:25 | |
'It's within one frame or another.' | 0:58:25 | 0:58:28 | |
'And it's true photography is a mania. | 0:58:29 | 0:58:31 | |
'You have to do it with a passion.' | 0:58:31 | 0:58:33 |