Being Neil Armstrong


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On the evening of July 20th, 1969,

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Neil Armstrong became the first human being to set foot on the moon.

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That's one small step for man...

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..one giant leap for mankind.

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The whole of humanity seemed to hold its breath as

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the same ghostly images danced across screens the world over.

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The pressure was intense,

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but Armstrong appeared to revel in the experience.

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No-one had ever left earth so completely,

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and it's been said that no-one ever saw it more clearly

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than he did then.

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MUSIC: "Light My Fire" by The Doors

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When Neil Armstrong returned from his surreal adventure,

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he was the most famous man on earth.

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But now something strange happened.

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With the world craving his attention, he simply disappeared,

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declining interviews and avoiding the public,

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finally shunning autographs too.

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40 years on, the reclusive Armstrong remains one of our greatest heroes,

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but our most reluctant celebrity.

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For many like me, he is the ultimate enigma.

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I'm Andrew Smith.

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Four years ago, I wrote a book about the Apollo moon walkers.

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Neil Armstrong was the only one who always refused to be interviewed.

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This film is my attempt to understand why.

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I'm going to the key places in Armstrong's life to meet his friends

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and former colleagues and chat with Apollo astronauts.

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Hello.

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'My aim is to find out who he is,

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'and what it's really like being Neil Armstrong.'

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Oh, beautiful!

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The starting point in my journey is the mid western state of Ohio.

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I'm headed towards Neil Armstrong's hometown to

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find out what his childhood can tell me about the mysterious man

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who walked on the moon.

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100 miles north of Cincinnati, I find the small town of Wapakoneta

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where Armstrong was born in 1930 of German and Scots stock.

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His family moved a lot, but Wapa claims him for its own.

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I'm surprised how many old schoolmates and friends

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are still here,

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like Kathryn Metz, who's run the family model shop for so many years,

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the townsfolk call her "Mom".

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This is brilliant, this is all the stuff,

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I did all these models when I was a kid.

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Look, old World War II stuff.

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-Is Mom around?

-Sure.

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Mom, can I call you Mom?

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-Yeah.

-You used to hang around with Neil Armstrong's sister.

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His sister, June, uh-huh.

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Yeah, I graduated with her.

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Right, so you were around him quite a lot.

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Yeah, maybe once

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or twice a week and that would be about it, yeah.

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But you really didn't get to visit with him a whole lot.

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It would have been "Hi, how are you? How's school?" Off he'd go, you know.

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He's not one for just stand around and talk.

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So he was sort of preoccupied

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with his aeroplanes and all that kind of stuff.

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Right, he loved flying.

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Now if you'd talk on aeroplanes, or be in an aeroplane,

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that'd be a different story.

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You probably wouldn't be able to get rid of him then.

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-Was he shy?

-He was just a quiet person.

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I don't think he was, you know, backward that wouldn't talk,

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it was just...

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You have to know his mom and dad - they were very kind,

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very supportive of what their kids were in,

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and they weren't one to always be in the limelight neither.

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And this is, he's just common, you know, he doesn't want

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to be out there where everybody has to,

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you know, pay attention to him.

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He's not for that.

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Now if they had an aeroplane and want him to go fly it

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that might be a different thing.

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I'm amused to hear Armstrong being described as "common".

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Of course, Mom really just means "normal" or "average",

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words which couldn't seem

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more incongruous, in light of his subsequent life and achievements.

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I wish I could be so average.

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I'm not sure I can quite bring myself to say

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how many years it's been since I made one of these.

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Many, many, many, many.

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It's funny because they just look like, you know,

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fairly trivial toys, which they are.

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I used to love flying these as a boy and I expect Neil Armstrong did too.

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In his time, flight must have seemed the most glamorous thing on earth.

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But you do learn about how

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things fly and the laws of aerodynamics and that sort of stuff,

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because the wings, you'll see, are not straight,

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they're bent, off centre.

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I think Neil might have been better at this than me.

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He'd make short work of this.

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There we go, got it!

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OK, test flight.

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3, 2, 1.

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Oh no! All that time spent doing that as a kid, wasted!

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My next encounter with Neil Armstrong's past

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is at the home of one of his closest childhood friends.

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'"Kotcho" Solacoff is now a retired doctor,

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'but he remembers the passion Armstrong had

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'for all types of planes.'

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When he was in school,

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he built lots of model aeroplanes

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and would fly them outside the window, sometimes

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catch them on fire when he's done with it and see it fly out and crash.

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But it was all by the rubber band.

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You know, he didn't have very much money at that time,

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and he was constantly building model aeroplanes.

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In 1969, Neil invited Kotcho to the launch of Apollo 11.

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From the VIP stands,

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he shot his own Super 8 footage of his friend taking off for the moon.

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His vantage point allowed him to record a rare image

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of the Saturn V rocket punching a hole through the sky.

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What was it like watching

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a boyhood friend became the first man on the moon?

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Oh, oh my gosh! Oh, I was sitting right in that room

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with a black and white television, and just yelling.

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And when he sat down there and said "The Eagle has landed,"

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I almost was in tears, you know.

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That was just overjoyous.

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Oh, I stayed up all night.

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I know that some of the astronauts get frustrated with being asked,

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"So, what was it like on the moon?"

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You, presumably, have asked Neil that at some point,

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what was it like? What did he tell you when you asked?

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Well, knowing Neil, very few words.

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He says, "It was fun and it was exhilarating."

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And that's all he would tell me.

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He says, "very enjoyable",

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but he wouldn't actually go into any more detail than that.

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But that's typical of Neil. That's about what I would expect him to say.

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One of the things that fascinates me most about Neil Armstrong

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is that he has this reputation for being

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this very kind of reticent, private...

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Some people think it's aloofness, we're hearing it's not,

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but he's also capable of great poetry actually at times.

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There's the first words,

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which are amongst the most famous words, you know, ever spoken.

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Has he ever talked about where he got those words from,

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the first words, "One small step..."?

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Well, yeah, he did tell me, but then he's said other stuff too,

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so I don't know which one is true.

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Cos I ask him about it and he was... He did say he did not think about it

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until he was on his way to the moon. He did not have that ahead.

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And we used to play, when we were younger...

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Did you ever play, Mother May I?

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You know, you'd take one step, "Mother may I?" "Yes, you may,"

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or "No, you may not," or you can take a giant step.

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-Yeah.

-And that kind of came to his mind, and he thought,

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"Gee, you know, I could say 'a giant step', 'small step'",

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you know, and kind of put those two together.

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And it came from that game that we used to play as little kids.

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So he was the quintessential schoolboy nerd?

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How to make sense of that!

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Only after leaving Kotcho does it occur to me that Armstrong was

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weaned on the exploits of aviation pioneers and World War II pilots.

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To him, they must have been what rock stars would one day be

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to my generation.

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Of course he wanted to fly.

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He earned a pilot's licence whilst still in high school

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and won a navy scholarship to Purdue University.

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He chose to study one of the buzz subjects of the era,

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aeronautical engineering,

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as glamorous as advertising at the time.

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His naval commitment led to Armstrong flying 78 missions

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during the Korean war in one of the first jet fighters,

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the Grumman F9F Panther.

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After finishing his degree in 1955,

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he became a test pilot in California.

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MUSIC: "Hound Dog" by Leiber & Stoller

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2,000 miles and a seeming world away from Ohio,

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I'm on State Highway 14, a couple of hours outside Los Angeles

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at the edge of the Mojave Desert.

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This is the home of Edwards Air Force Base, a place that's witnessed

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more advances in flight than anywhere else on earth.

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Today, unmanned drones and laser armed jets are flight tested here.

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But the pilots and engineers of the late 1940s and 50s were the

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first to break the sound barrier, and with the X-15 hypersonic plane,

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they even reached the edge of space.

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After being dropped by a B52 bomber,

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the X-15 could reach six times the speed of sound.

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It tested the physical effects of such high speeds on pilots

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and, at the time, was as close to space flight as you could get.

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Armstrong was one of the chosen few to fly the plane.

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'The air force's publicity department has arranged for me

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'to meet Johnny Armstrong.

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'He's not related to Neil, but worked with him in the 1950s.'

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Looking at everything that's involved with this,

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it's almost like a space flight.

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So for Neil it would have been a stepping stone.

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You're right, we had, you know,

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a de-briefing, two de-briefings after each flight.

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One was, OK, everybody that was involved in the flight

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comes and sits down and talks about how it all went,

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from the chase pilots, B52, everybody would gather,

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pat themselves on the back, have a good time, and talk about the flight.

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And then the engineers would take the pilots in a separate,

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smaller group meeting, and talk

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about the real technical aspects of what they were trying to accomplish.

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You worked directly with Armstrong.

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I did. I remember when he was a training to fly the X-15 number 3,

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which was the aeroplane he flew most, the number 3 aeroplane,

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and he was a very well disciplined,

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more than disciplined, he was one of the more technical

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test pilots we had - the paying attention to detail

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of the technical operation of that particular control system.

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There seemed to be a sort of a change in the type of

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pilots who were involved

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from the guys who could really push a plane

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and they were all about flying,

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to these people who could obviously fly brilliantly,

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but were also engineers, and could analyse.

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They were much more analytical.

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Well, that's kind of the way you're describing Armstrong.

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He brought his engineering talents to bear on it quite a bit

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in developing that flight control system for the number 3 aeroplane.

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I can imagine how Neil Armstrong's engineering side must have loved

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developing and flying futuristic planes like the X-15.

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But what was he like away from the cockpit?

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They celebrated after flights, OK.

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They went to the local bars, and had fellowship there too.

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Do you remember Armstrong taking part in that?

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No, you know, I really don't.

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Neil struck me as being a more reserved pilot and less outgoing

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than the other X-15 pilots that we routinely worked with.

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Everyone I meet describes Armstrong as quiet and reserved,

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something of a conformist,

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to the extent that I'm starting to wonder if they're protecting him.

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But his decision to locate himself and his new wife, Janet,

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up in the hills, 50 miles from base,

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suggests a more maverick spirit than I'd have guessed in the beginning.

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He would have driven along this road frequently.

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Somewhere hidden here is Juniper Hills, which is the first town that

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Jan and Neil Armstrong settled in after they got married, 1955.

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It's away from the base.

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You've got to admire his choice though.

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It's lovely here - much, much nicer than further down in the valley.

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This is it.

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Wow!

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There's a car in the drive too. I wonder if that's the estate agent's.

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I knew it was for sale but apparently it's a foreclosure,

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so the bank owns it,

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which means that I can't get permission to go on.

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Amazingly, the people here who are looking at it,

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these people are looking

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to buy the house, don't know that it was Neil Armstrong's house.

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No-one told them.

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And I can't believe any estate agent anywhere in the

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world would let that one pass, but it seems to have happened.

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Amazing.

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Hi. Can I ask you something?

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-Yeah, sure.

-Did you know that this used to be Neil Armstrong's house?

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-No idea.

-No.

-The estate agent didn't tell you?

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I don't think anybody knows. How did you guys find out?

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The local people do,

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so I can't believe the estate agent didn't tell you.

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I guess she doesn't know or they don't consider it a selling point.

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You'd think they would, but it's fallen into complete disrepair, so...

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Yeah, it's a foreclosure, right?

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-Yes, it's unliveable right now.

-Really?

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Yeah, cos there's a hole in the water tank

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and there's no electricity hooked up to the mains.

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Thanks a lot, take care.

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Just as I'm contemplating the isolation of this place, some locals

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arrive who remember what it was like when the Armstrongs were here.

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The Armstrongs didn't have any electricity.

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No water, apparently, as well.

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They hauled water in, in the beginning.

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So that must have been an inconvenient place to live.

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It's very lovely up here, but...

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Well, it was either up here or 40 miles to the north

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in the middle of that godawful desert which his wife did not like.

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Oh, OK, do you know that?

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Is that the story about why they ended up here.

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She didn't care for the desert.

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-Ah, cos I had wondered that.

-He didn't either, for that matter.

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I'd wondered that,

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because it must get very hot down there in the valley.

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It generally stays about 10 to 15 degrees cooler up here.

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Two of the Armstrongs' three children

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were born during his time here.

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As a test pilot, there was nothing to stop him from living a quiet life

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with his young family.

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I wonder if he realised that his decision to become an astronaut

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would change that forever.

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NASA's first astronauts, the Mercury Seven, flew in small capsules on top

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of rockets which were actually designed as military missiles.

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Men like John Glenn, the first American to orbit the earth,

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became instant heroes across the country.

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They were paraded through towns and given keys to cities.

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Becoming an astronaut propelled you to the top of the celebrity A-list.

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It was something Neil Armstrong would have to deal with.

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MUSIC: "San Francisco (Be Sure To Wear Flowers In Your Hair)"

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by J Phillips

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300 miles north of Edwards, I'm heading along Highway 1

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to meet the Apollo 9 astronaut Rusty Schweickart.

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I've heard he's an interesting man who speaks his mind,

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and I hope he'll tell me what life is like as a famous astronaut.

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-Rusty, hello.

-Hello.

-Andrew Smith.

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-Andrew, hi.

-It's really nice to meet you.

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-Come in.

-I know you're really busy, thanks for making the time for us.

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This is one of my wife's favourites.

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Oh, that's your expenses vouchers.

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This, there are about three or four where my wife has given me these

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on the anniversary of my flight.

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And this is one of the first ones.

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So this was,

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you know, a picture of the night before the launch,

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and a picture of the splashdown on the other side.

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But this is the travel voucher.

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Here it is, "Houston, Texas, Cocoa Beach, Florida, Earth Orbit,

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USS Guadalcanal," ie, the Pacific Ocean and return to Houston!

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All for 143.50.

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Basically it says that the government quarters and meals were furnished,

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and therefore, you know, that was deducted from my per diem.

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That's fantastic.

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Rusty's flight began on top of a Saturn V rocket just four months

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before a sister Saturn took Armstrong all the way to the moon.

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I can't help but ask Rusty what take-off was like.

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The lift-off was really interesting.

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Of course, you're so busy though thinking ahead.

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For the first 10 seconds,

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you have all of these different launch abort modes.

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So you're pretty

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intensely occupied.

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But, interestingly,

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within ten seconds of lift-off, the sound drops right down to

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the point where you really can't hear the engines any more.

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The motion is most intense right at first. It's not acceleration.

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You hardly get off the ground,

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you don't feel any acceleration vertically.

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But the spacecraft is wiggling on the back end.

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I mean, it's the old trick of holding the broom on your hand, you know.

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The broom, the head of the broom isn't moving around,

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but you're moving the bottom around to keep it.

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Because the engines are swivelling.

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The engines are swivelling back and forth to keep that thing vertical.

0:21:010:21:05

But again, within a few seconds, that goes away as well,

0:21:050:21:10

and from 10 seconds on, now you're just feeling

0:21:100:21:14

the gradual build-up of vertical acceleration as you're going up.

0:21:140:21:19

And it's quiet, and it's quite smooth.

0:21:190:21:23

Until cut-off of the first stage,

0:21:230:21:25

it's just this sort of steady increase of acceleration

0:21:250:21:28

as you're going up.

0:21:280:21:30

One of the frustrations that people have with Neil Armstrong,

0:21:350:21:38

for instance, is that he won't talk about what it meant to him.

0:21:380:21:42

Do you think that's because it meant less?

0:21:420:21:45

-No.

-Or it meant... No?

0:21:450:21:48

Neil is a very private person.

0:21:480:21:50

I mean, he's a wonderful guy and he has a terrific sense of humour.

0:21:500:21:54

But Neil Armstrong and John Glenn - you're dealing with firsts.

0:21:570:22:03

And Neil being the first man on the moon,

0:22:030:22:06

he had to go into a hermit-like life

0:22:060:22:12

in order to survive.

0:22:120:22:16

I mean, the demand of the public for

0:22:160:22:21

someone in a position of that kind is so extreme, you just have no idea.

0:22:210:22:26

Describe it for me.

0:22:260:22:27

Because you must have tasted this to a degree,

0:22:270:22:30

because you tell people you're an astronaut...

0:22:300:22:33

Yeah, but that's it. See, I tasted it.

0:22:330:22:36

It wasn't foie gras stuck in my, and ground down into me. I mean,

0:22:360:22:43

if you're someone like Neil, the first man on the moon,

0:22:430:22:46

or John Glenn, first person in space...

0:22:460:22:49

And even, see John - John was just the first American.

0:22:490:22:53

You know, you have to protect yourself.

0:22:530:22:55

You're so in demand.

0:22:550:22:59

I mean, I remember when I first came into the programme,

0:22:590:23:02

and you would go out to a restaurant.

0:23:020:23:04

Well, there was no way that those first seven guys,

0:23:040:23:08

the original seven, could be in a restaurant

0:23:080:23:11

without having everybody in the restaurant

0:23:110:23:15

come over and asking for an autograph

0:23:150:23:17

or wrapping their arms around them and getting a picture.

0:23:170:23:20

And, you know, people are calling them the wrong names.

0:23:200:23:23

It's just... It was sickening.

0:23:230:23:28

Understandable, perfectly understandable,

0:23:280:23:30

because that person asking for your autograph,

0:23:300:23:33

it's the first time they've ever asked for an autograph

0:23:330:23:36

from an astronaut. It's your 10,000th time

0:23:360:23:38

and you're trying to eat your soup while it's still warm.

0:23:380:23:43

You can't do that.

0:23:430:23:44

It's... It is unbelievably intrusive.

0:23:440:23:49

So you know, you're right, I got a taste of it,

0:23:490:23:53

but not the full dose, thank heaven.

0:23:530:23:56

Would you trade places with Neil Armstrong?

0:23:560:23:58

I'd love to trade places with Neil Armstrong

0:24:000:24:02

in terms of the experience,

0:24:020:24:04

but not in terms of the post-flight experience.

0:24:040:24:06

Not at all, no.

0:24:060:24:09

If you could only get them together, would you consider it?

0:24:090:24:13

No, I would not.

0:24:130:24:15

Really, seriously, even if it meant going to the moon, you wouldn't?

0:24:150:24:19

Why? I had my 15 minutes.

0:24:190:24:21

I'm doing so many things that are absolutely fascinating to me.

0:24:210:24:25

I don't need that.

0:24:250:24:27

You know, I have to be honest with you. I'm talking with you now,

0:24:270:24:31

-I'm talking with this audience now about this experience.

-Yeah.

0:24:310:24:35

I hate it.

0:24:350:24:37

I mean, it's OK, you're good, we're having a good conversation.

0:24:370:24:40

Thank you very much.

0:24:400:24:42

OK, seriously. I avoid this like the plague.

0:24:430:24:46

Been there, done that, had the T-shirt.

0:24:460:24:48

I'm done with it, that's history.

0:24:480:24:50

Unfortunately, I have to tell the story again and again.

0:24:500:24:53

And when you've told a story a thousand times, you're sick of it.

0:24:530:24:56

You don't even know any more whether you're making things up or not.

0:24:560:25:00

You're trying not to, but after a while you don't quite know.

0:25:000:25:04

And so, you know, you talk to Walt Cunningham, or Neil, or Buzz,

0:25:040:25:08

or Mike Collins, or somebody,

0:25:080:25:11

and we'll all talk about exactly the same event,

0:25:110:25:14

and we'll all talk about it differently.

0:25:140:25:16

We didn't necessarily experience it differently,

0:25:160:25:20

but over years it starts to diverge, you don't know.

0:25:200:25:23

Rusty's description of the trials of space fame set me to thinking.

0:25:290:25:33

In the run up to my journey,

0:25:340:25:36

I'd considered trying to get in touch with Armstrong again.

0:25:360:25:40

But understanding his perspective a little better now, I'm not so sure.

0:25:400:25:45

After 40 years, it must be nearly impossible

0:25:450:25:48

to say something new about walking on the moon.

0:25:480:25:51

I feel torn between a desire to find out more

0:25:530:25:57

and my reluctance to become just another intrusion into his life.

0:25:570:26:01

I'm not sure whether to contact him or just leave him alone.

0:26:020:26:07

September 16th, 1962.

0:26:100:26:13

It's announced that Neil Armstrong has been selected

0:26:130:26:16

as one of a second group of astronauts.

0:26:160:26:18

Amid great excitement, the press dubs them 'The New Nine.'

0:26:180:26:24

ARCHIVE: '...Neil Armstrong, 32, NASA test pilot on the X-15 rocket plane.

0:26:240:26:28

'Major Frank Borman of the Air Force, 34...'

0:26:280:26:31

The astronauts are moved to NASA's new mission control

0:26:310:26:34

and training centre in Houston, Texas.

0:26:340:26:37

Most of the astronauts are still active military pilots,

0:26:370:26:40

so their pay is only slightly more than a school teacher's.

0:26:400:26:44

But life as an astronaut does have its perks.

0:26:440:26:47

MUSIC: "Born To Be Wild" by Mars Bonfire

0:26:470:26:50

# Get your motor runnin' Head out on the highway

0:27:000:27:05

# Lookin' for adventure And whatever comes our way... #

0:27:060:27:13

This car is a 1965 Corvette Stingray

0:27:130:27:18

like a lot of the astronauts drove, in fact.

0:27:180:27:21

I've never driven one of these before and I'm just really enjoying

0:27:210:27:25

myself, trying not to look too smug, and, I suspect, failing miserably.

0:27:250:27:30

It's fantastic!

0:27:300:27:31

These things are so beautiful, and space age too, the styling of it.

0:27:310:27:36

It's one of the most beautiful cars I've ever seen

0:27:360:27:39

and certainly the most beautiful car I've ever driven.

0:27:390:27:43

These streets are a sub-division of Houston

0:27:450:27:48

which is just a stone's throw from NASA.

0:27:480:27:51

It's where most of the astronauts and their families lived,

0:27:510:27:55

in very close quarters...

0:27:550:27:57

..and you get a real sense of what it must have felt like

0:27:580:28:01

to have been them at that time.

0:28:010:28:03

They'd been flying their jet fighters

0:28:030:28:06

and then working in the lunar lander simulators over the

0:28:060:28:10

road at NASA, and then driving home in one of these,

0:28:100:28:13

in a, you know, fairly modest middle class district.

0:28:130:28:17

But all the same, how much more on top of the world could you get?

0:28:170:28:21

Not very, I think.

0:28:210:28:22

But this high-octane lifestyle came with serious risks.

0:28:250:28:29

Just 14 months before the launch of Apollo 11, Armstrong was polishing

0:28:350:28:40

his lunar landing skills in the lunar landing training vehicle.

0:28:400:28:44

The LLTV was designed to mimic the approach and feel

0:28:440:28:47

of landing on the moon.

0:28:470:28:49

A pair of rockets reduced the effective weight of the craft

0:28:490:28:52

to simulate the moon's reduced gravity,

0:28:520:28:55

but with no wings, the craft couldn't glide back to earth

0:28:550:28:58

if anything went wrong.

0:28:580:29:00

Astronauts called it the flying bedstead.

0:29:010:29:05

Management didn't like it.

0:29:050:29:07

It scared them.

0:29:070:29:09

But on this day, 100 feet from the ground,

0:29:110:29:13

a thruster leak left Armstrong with no control.

0:29:130:29:16

With a split second to spare,

0:29:160:29:18

he fired his ejection seat and narrowly saved his life.

0:29:180:29:21

Within hours, an apparently unfazed Armstrong

0:29:260:29:29

would be back in the office at work.

0:29:290:29:31

Perhaps his calm nature made him an ideal candidate

0:29:310:29:35

to land a spacecraft on the moon.

0:29:350:29:38

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:29:380:29:40

In July 1969, the former boy scout who loved building model planes

0:29:430:29:47

found himself plunging towards the lunar surface

0:29:470:29:51

at the controls of the Eagle lander.

0:29:510:29:53

As the world listened in, few could know

0:30:010:30:04

that Armstrong and his partner Buzz Aldrin were in trouble.

0:30:040:30:08

Don Willis, an Apollo controller at the time,

0:30:110:30:14

tells me about the unfolding drama.

0:30:140:30:16

The position we had there

0:30:180:30:21

was basically to drive all of the displays that the flight

0:30:210:30:26

controllers, the ones you see on TV in the control room itself...

0:30:260:30:29

All those maps and all those displays and everything were driven by a huge

0:30:290:30:35

bank of computers which were located one floor below the control room.

0:30:350:30:39

A standard PC today would probably have better speed

0:30:390:30:44

and about the same capacity as one of those IBM 360/75s.

0:30:440:30:50

The first warning occurred at an altitude of 2,000 feet

0:30:500:30:54

when the crew was alerted to an overload alarm

0:30:540:30:57

of the onboard computer known as a 1202.

0:30:570:31:00

There were some overload alarms where the computer is not able to complete

0:31:030:31:08

its full range of processing.

0:31:080:31:11

It's not good to have alarms,

0:31:110:31:12

because you're never quite sure what's not getting done.

0:31:120:31:17

Because Armstrong, when he was asking "What is the 1202?",

0:31:170:31:20

his voice was terse at that point.

0:31:200:31:22

-Yes.

-And he asked a number of times,

0:31:220:31:25

and his heart rate apparently went up to 150 BPM.

0:31:250:31:28

-ARCHIVE:

-Bravo 2, we have a reading on the 1202 programme alarm.

0:31:290:31:33

-We're "go" on that, flight.

-Roger, we got you.

0:31:330:31:37

We're "go" on that alarm.

0:31:370:31:38

The people who wrote the software and who were actually operating it

0:31:410:31:45

knew what a 1202 was, and knew that it was

0:31:450:31:48

not life threatening, not mission threatening.

0:31:480:31:50

-ARCHIVE:

-Has it converged?

-Yes.

-OK, all flight controllers,

0:31:500:31:53

-go now go for landing. Retro.

-Go.

-Vital.

-Go.

0:31:530:31:56

-Guidance.

-Go.

0:31:560:31:57

-Control.

-Go.

0:31:570:31:59

Capcom, we're "go" for landing.

0:31:590:32:01

Eagle, Houston, you are "go" for landing, over.

0:32:010:32:04

DON WILLIS: And as they started the descent burn,

0:32:040:32:07

the landmarks on the way down were

0:32:070:32:09

not quite where the astronauts thought they should be.

0:32:090:32:12

And as they got down very, very low, the low fuel alarm light came on,

0:32:120:32:18

meaning that they had

0:32:180:32:21

just a small amount of fuel left, like 60 seconds or something.

0:32:210:32:25

-ARCHIVE:

-60 seconds. Lights on.

0:32:270:32:29

The mission rules had said if you get this low, you should abort,

0:32:290:32:34

but he was basically over-riding that, and said,

0:32:340:32:37

"No, I can get this, I can get it down.

0:32:370:32:39

"We can achieve the mission."

0:32:390:32:41

When he saw the crater,

0:32:430:32:44

realised he had to get over on to the other side to really land.

0:32:440:32:48

-ARCHIVE:

-Forward, just into the right a little.

0:32:520:32:55

-Down a half.

-30 seconds.

0:32:550:32:58

Picking up some dust.

0:32:580:33:00

Contact light. OK, engine stopped.

0:33:060:33:11

We copy you down, Eagle.

0:33:110:33:13

Houston, Tranquillity Base here. The Eagle has landed.

0:33:130:33:18

Roger, Tranquillity, we copy you on the ground.

0:33:180:33:21

You got a bunch of guys about to turn blue. We're breathing again.

0:33:210:33:24

Thanks a lot.

0:33:240:33:25

(DON WILLIS) "The Eagle has landed", the call came out.

0:33:250:33:28

There was just a tremendous cheer.

0:33:280:33:30

And it was not only the people in the room, but all those people

0:33:300:33:33

in the back rooms and everything,

0:33:330:33:35

all across the mission control centre was just a huge big cheer.

0:33:350:33:39

And a lot of people, I think,

0:33:390:33:42

exhaling, myself included, like "Ah, we've made it,

0:33:420:33:47

"and we're safe on the surface."

0:33:470:33:52

And it'll be very interesting when we go back to the moon some day to check

0:33:520:33:56

how much fuel was actually in that tank.

0:33:560:33:58

But I think it was pretty well on zero

0:33:580:34:01

when he touched down and he got engine shutdown.

0:34:010:34:03

-ARCHIVE:

-I'm at the foot of the ladder.

-Roger, Neil.

0:34:040:34:10

I'm going to step off the LEM now.

0:34:140:34:17

That's one small step for man...

0:34:190:34:22

..one giant leap for mankind.

0:34:230:34:26

I don't know that I've ever tried to calculate how many

0:34:290:34:33

thousands of people were focussed and working for that single event.

0:34:330:34:37

But I know, and I've read Mr Armstrong's book and there

0:34:370:34:42

wouldn't be one person that I know of at NASA that wouldn't agree with him.

0:34:420:34:47

That this was a team effort and probably many of them would agree

0:34:470:34:50

that it was one of the greatest teams ever assembled.

0:34:500:34:55

Neil Armstrong had become the first man to walk on the moon,

0:34:590:35:02

but I wonder what the other astronauts made of him being first?

0:35:020:35:06

-Mr Cunningham.

-Yes.

0:35:080:35:09

So I'm paying a visit to Apollo 7 crew member Walt Cunningham.

0:35:090:35:14

I think Neil has the admiration

0:35:140:35:17

of all of us from those days, by the way he's handled the notoriety.

0:35:170:35:25

And there's others that haven't handled it all that well.

0:35:280:35:33

And I feel very fortunate,

0:35:330:35:35

standing at a reception in 1969, the Society of Experimental Test Pilots,

0:35:350:35:43

and we were making Charles Lindbergh an honorary fellow that year.

0:35:430:35:48

And of course, that was right after Neil's first steps on the moon.

0:35:480:35:53

And I was like a fly on the wall.

0:35:530:35:56

I was about one foot behind Neil and Charles Lindbergh when I

0:35:560:36:00

heard Charles Lindbergh advising Neil Armstrong on how to handle

0:36:000:36:05

all of this attention, this notoriety,

0:36:050:36:07

and about keeping a low key, kind of staying

0:36:070:36:10

out of the public eye because, you know,

0:36:100:36:12

Lindbergh's experience was not all that wonderful.

0:36:120:36:16

And Neil has done that.

0:36:170:36:20

Walt Cunningham's comment about Armstrong meeting Charles Lindbergh

0:36:240:36:27

has got me thinking about the similarities between the two men.

0:36:270:36:31

In 1927, Lindbergh made the hazardous first solo flight across

0:36:330:36:37

the Atlantic from New York to Paris,

0:36:370:36:40

but it was the consequent fame that almost destroyed him.

0:36:400:36:44

He was besieged by the press and public alike.

0:36:440:36:48

His infant first son was kidnapped for ransom and then killed,

0:36:480:36:52

a son who coincidentally was born the same year as Neil Armstrong.

0:36:520:36:58

Lindbergh wrote in his autobiography,

0:36:580:37:01

"As one gains fame, one loses life,"

0:37:010:37:04

a view which still resonates.

0:37:040:37:07

His solution was to become a recluse,

0:37:070:37:10

avoid interviews, and refuse to sign autographs.

0:37:100:37:14

To survive the dark side of fame,

0:37:140:37:15

Lindbergh devised a formula to focus on what he called

0:37:150:37:21

"the core" - his family, friends, the things he loved, like flying,

0:37:210:37:27

to shield these things from prying eyes and the ravenous media.

0:37:270:37:31

But I'm fascinated by the notion that Neil Armstrong's reticence,

0:37:340:37:38

so often taken for aloofness or reserve,

0:37:380:37:41

may in fact form part of a deliberate Lindbergh-inspired

0:37:410:37:45

strategy for dealing with the trauma of the public's intense gaze.

0:37:450:37:49

Unfortunately, this thrusts me right back

0:37:510:37:54

into the jaws of my old dilemma.

0:37:540:37:56

OK, I've just decided to do something that I really didn't want

0:37:590:38:03

to do and I've been resisting for quite a long time,

0:38:030:38:06

despite people telling me I should do it,

0:38:060:38:08

and send Neil Armstrong an e-mail.

0:38:080:38:11

People keep asking, "Have you asked Neil?

0:38:110:38:13

"Have you talked to Neil?

0:38:130:38:15

"You should get in touch with Neil."

0:38:150:38:17

And, you know, I haven't really wanted to do it because

0:38:200:38:23

I know he doesn't like doing it, he doesn't really do interviews,

0:38:230:38:29

but the Lindbergh stuff changes the way I feel about that

0:38:290:38:32

to some degree, because I think this is something

0:38:320:38:35

that's really genuinely interesting

0:38:350:38:38

which actually he might respond to because

0:38:380:38:41

flying and Charles Lindbergh are two things he feels

0:38:410:38:44

very strongly about,

0:38:440:38:47

from what I can see.

0:38:470:38:49

And so in doing this, I understand that I'm adding to his pile,

0:38:490:38:56

his mountain of unsolicited messages,

0:38:560:39:00

but I also think that it's...it's something that I need to do,

0:39:000:39:04

just because it's interesting, and I would like to have an answer

0:39:040:39:08

and like to give him the chance to have an answer.

0:39:080:39:11

Until you've sat down and tried to write an e-mail to Neil Armstrong

0:39:110:39:15

or someone like Neil Armstrong,

0:39:150:39:16

is there anyone else like Neil Armstrong,

0:39:160:39:20

you don't realise how sort of nervy an experience it is. It's odd.

0:39:200:39:24

"Dear Neil..."

0:39:240:39:26

He can't object to that.

0:39:260:39:28

"Dear Neil..." No. Idiot.

0:39:280:39:33

"Dear Mr Armstrong..."

0:39:330:39:35

"Dear Mr Armstrong,

0:39:380:39:40

"we are in the process of making a documentary film to commemorate the

0:39:400:39:44

"40th anniversary of the first moon landing.

0:39:440:39:47

"I know you're reluctant to pronounce on matters of opinion,

0:39:470:39:50

"but I was hoping you might be able to help

0:39:500:39:53

"with a few small, but important, matters of fact."

0:39:530:39:55

He might like that. At least that's gonna

0:39:570:40:01

not get off on the wrong foot

0:40:010:40:03

by asking him what it felt like to walk on the moon.

0:40:030:40:08

Sometimes I hate writing.

0:40:080:40:10

"We also understand that Mr Lindbergh was someone you

0:40:130:40:16

"greatly admired and met with in the run up to the launch of Apollo 11.

0:40:160:40:20

"Indeed, it has been suggested that you took advice from him.

0:40:200:40:23

"Is it true?"

0:40:230:40:25

All we can do now is wait.

0:40:270:40:29

I hope e-mailing him was the right thing to do.

0:40:290:40:33

The Kennedy Space Centre is America's gateway to space.

0:40:380:40:43

Today, the space shuttle stands on the launch pad where, 40 years ago,

0:40:430:40:47

Apollo 11 began its mission to the moon.

0:40:470:40:50

Not much has changed here since the space race ended,

0:40:520:40:55

least of all the place

0:40:550:40:57

astronauts stayed and played when they were preparing for flights.

0:40:570:41:00

When NASA first came to Cocoa Beach, there really wasn't a lot here.

0:41:020:41:06

One thing which did exist was the Holiday Inn

0:41:060:41:08

which is where the astronauts stayed while they were training

0:41:080:41:12

and getting ready for flights.

0:41:120:41:13

And happily for me, it's where I'm staying.

0:41:130:41:16

There it is.

0:41:160:41:19

MUSIC: Fly Me To The Moon by Bart Howard

0:41:190:41:21

During the early days of the space programme,

0:41:250:41:27

Mercury and Gemini astronauts are said to have had

0:41:270:41:30

a pretty wild time here with a combination of sun, sea and sex.

0:41:300:41:35

But by the time of Apollo 11,

0:41:370:41:39

there was too much serious work to be done.

0:41:390:41:42

Back in my hotel room, I turn on my laptop

0:41:440:41:47

and check my e-mails a little nervously.

0:41:470:41:50

I've come back into the room and there's a reply.

0:41:520:41:55

There's lots of it too.

0:41:550:41:57

"Dear Mr Smith, here are some replies to your questions."

0:41:580:42:03

And down the bottom it's signed "Neil Armstrong."

0:42:030:42:05

I can see the words, "I hope that is helpful. Neil Armstrong."

0:42:050:42:09

The first question was about Lindbergh's Autobiography Of Values.

0:42:090:42:13

We'd noticed the parallels and connections

0:42:130:42:16

between Lindbergh's experience and his.

0:42:160:42:18

"I became an aviation enthusiast aged nine or ten, and never wavered.

0:42:180:42:25

"I read every aviation book and magazine that I could

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"and built airplane models constantly.

0:42:280:42:31

"I wanted to become an airplane designer

0:42:310:42:33

"and learnt about the great ones.

0:42:330:42:35

"Alexander Seversky, RJ Mitchell, Igor Sikorsky,

0:42:350:42:40

"Tony Fokker, Don Berlin, etc.

0:42:400:42:42

"I had no aspirations as a pilot at that time,

0:42:420:42:45

"but avidly learnt about the record setting flyers -

0:42:450:42:48

"Alcock and Brown, Mattern, Post, the Mollisons,

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"Lindbergh, Earhart etc.

0:42:510:42:53

"I don't remember focussing on Lindbergh.

0:42:540:42:56

"Probably read more about all those who preceded him

0:42:560:43:00

"across the Atlantic by air.

0:43:000:43:02

"The only advice..."

0:43:020:43:04

OK, now this is good.

0:43:040:43:06

"The only advice I can remember him giving me,"

0:43:060:43:08

brackets, "although there may have been others,

0:43:080:43:12

"was to not give autographs.

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"When I read Autobiography Of Values many years ago,

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"Lindbergh's autobiography,

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"I was also struck by a number of similarities to my own experiences.

0:43:230:43:28

"I hope that is helpful, Neil Armstrong."

0:43:280:43:31

He spent some time on that, thinking about it,

0:43:340:43:37

and...it's really sweet.

0:43:370:43:42

It's really sweet,

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and does confirm a lot of what we were suspecting.

0:43:440:43:49

And now we've got to decide whether we want to follow up

0:43:490:43:54

with another e-mail,

0:43:540:43:55

or whether we want to see whether we can meet with him.

0:43:550:43:58

And that seems tricky now because after everything I've heard,

0:44:000:44:05

do we want to go and...

0:44:050:44:06

..disturb his privacy or not?

0:44:070:44:14

And maybe we do. I don't know, we'll have to think about it.

0:44:140:44:18

But it's exciting to get this. It's really exciting to get this.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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When Apollo 11 returned to earth, the world's press was in a frenzy

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to interview the first man to walk upon the moon.

0:44:290:44:33

It was our pleasure to participate in one great adventure.

0:44:360:44:41

It's an adventure that took place not just in the month of July,

0:44:430:44:48

but rather one that took place in the last decade.

0:44:480:44:51

The entire country was lined up to see Armstrong and shake his hand,

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and despite Lindbergh's advice,

0:45:030:45:05

he felt an obligation to the US taxpayers for their

0:45:050:45:07

contribution to the space programme, so he continued to sign autographs.

0:45:070:45:11

But unlike previous astronauts,

0:45:140:45:16

Armstrong was not just a hero in America.

0:45:160:45:19

He had become an inspirational figure for the entire world

0:45:190:45:23

and there was nowhere to hide,

0:45:230:45:25

no place he could escape a potentially all-consuming fame.

0:45:250:45:28

Perhaps Lindbergh's advice came to mind

0:45:310:45:34

because Armstrong appears to have retreated to his core self.

0:45:340:45:39

A neighbour would speak of Neil's desire

0:45:390:45:42

to get back to the fundamentals.

0:45:420:45:45

With the world at his feet,

0:45:450:45:47

he slipped back to Ohio to become a teacher.

0:45:470:45:50

In 1971, Armstrong became a professor

0:45:500:45:53

of aeronautical engineering at the University of Cincinnati.

0:45:530:45:58

'After the creativity of Apollo, academia must have been a shock.

0:45:580:46:01

'Dr Ron Huston was in the mirthful position of being Neil's boss.

0:46:010:46:06

'He's taking me to see the man's old office.'

0:46:060:46:10

This is the office I was telling you about.

0:46:100:46:12

And this is where he would enter and you notice there's a partition there,

0:46:120:46:17

so Neil would be in here

0:46:170:46:20

-and his secretary would be in this little alcove.

-Right.

0:46:200:46:25

And so you'd go in there and you could see him.

0:46:250:46:28

Now what was interesting is when he first arrived,

0:46:280:46:30

it was just like this and students would

0:46:300:46:34

sort of build a human pyramid

0:46:340:46:36

-so they could get up and peek into the windows.

-No, really?

0:46:360:46:40

And that went on for a while until then they put a

0:46:400:46:43

sort of a curtain or a cover, just put some paper on the window so

0:46:430:46:46

that they couldn't see in.

0:46:460:46:48

And it...burned off.

0:46:480:46:52

It took about, I would say roughly one quarter,

0:46:520:46:56

which is three months, for it to subside.

0:46:560:47:00

And then things went on. This started in the autumn and then by the

0:47:000:47:04

winter time it got dreary outside,

0:47:040:47:07

-people got more interested in their own things, and so it passed.

-Right.

0:47:070:47:10

Were there a lot of requests for autographs and that kind of stuff?

0:47:100:47:14

Oh, well, ha-ha, that's what this lady did.

0:47:140:47:18

If you wanted to get an autograph,

0:47:180:47:21

it was no big deal, because NASA wanted to take advantage of the

0:47:210:47:25

notoriety, and so they gave him, they paid for, part of his secretary.

0:47:250:47:31

And what she did was arrange for autographs.

0:47:310:47:33

So you would go in there and write your name on a list,

0:47:330:47:36

so every morning, Neil would come in for an hour or two

0:47:360:47:41

and just write his name on these autographs.

0:47:410:47:44

And how long did that last for?

0:47:440:47:46

Oh, that went on for the entire time that he was here.

0:47:460:47:50

I mean that went on for years.

0:47:500:47:53

Did you hear him complain about that? That would drive me insane.

0:47:530:47:56

I think he just did what he...

0:47:560:47:58

He was disciplined, he was disciplined,

0:47:580:48:00

so he did what people told him to do.

0:48:000:48:02

He'd just come in here, sign the autographs,

0:48:020:48:05

then he'd be teaching his classes, then he would go fly airplanes.

0:48:050:48:09

In 1979, Neil Armstrong abruptly resigned his position

0:48:100:48:14

at the University of Cincinnati.

0:48:140:48:17

In the years that followed,

0:48:170:48:18

he worked in a number of advisory posts for engineering firms.

0:48:180:48:22

Having committed himself to signing autographs through the 70s and 80s,

0:48:250:48:29

the advent of the internet alerted Armstrong

0:48:290:48:32

to the fact that people had been selling them straight away.

0:48:320:48:34

This drove him to take Lindbergh's advice

0:48:340:48:37

and he hasn't signed an autograph since.

0:48:370:48:40

But the lengths to which people would go to exploit Armstrong's fame

0:48:450:48:49

reached a peak of absurdity in 2005,

0:48:490:48:53

when his barber, one Marx Sizemore,

0:48:530:48:55

sold cuttings of his hair to a hair collector.

0:48:550:49:00

A guy from Colorado named Todd Mueller,

0:49:000:49:04

back in '04 started calling me on the phone

0:49:040:49:07

and asking me if he could buy some of Neil's hair.

0:49:070:49:12

For two weeks I told him no.

0:49:120:49:15

And then he asked me a question like,

0:49:150:49:19

"If you don't sell me the hair, next time he comes in

0:49:190:49:21

"and gets his hair cut, what are you going to do with it?"

0:49:210:49:25

And I said, "Probably sweep it up and throw it away just like I always do."

0:49:250:49:29

And he said, "All right, sell me your trash."

0:49:290:49:31

So when I thought about it that way, I thought,

0:49:310:49:34

"You know, it's not that big of a deal."

0:49:340:49:37

So I let him, I entertained an offer from him. He offered me 3,000

0:49:370:49:45

and so next time Neil came in, I swept up before he got here

0:49:450:49:49

and once he left,

0:49:490:49:51

I swept it up again and bagged it up and sent it to him.

0:49:510:49:55

So Neil's reaction was?

0:49:550:49:58

He wasn't too happy about it.

0:49:580:50:00

He asked me if I thought I could get the hair back, and I told him that

0:50:000:50:05

I would call and see, but I called Tom

0:50:050:50:08

-and of course he didn't want to sell the hair back, so...

-Right.

0:50:080:50:12

I called Neil at his house and told him that.

0:50:120:50:16

He gave you his home number?

0:50:160:50:17

-Yeah, he gave me his home number.

-So he trusted you with that?

-Yeah.

0:50:170:50:21

That would be worth quite a lot of money to some people.

0:50:210:50:24

Well, how much will you give me? HE LAUGHS

0:50:240:50:26

Well, we can talk about that afterwards.

0:50:260:50:31

He threatened legal action,

0:50:310:50:34

so I released it to the media and it became a huge story.

0:50:340:50:41

It went worldwide.

0:50:410:50:43

I think once he'd seen how big of a

0:50:430:50:47

news article it was becoming, he backed off.

0:50:470:50:52

His lawyers didn't want no more to do with it.

0:50:520:50:56

So Marx, this was all about 4 years ago.

0:50:560:51:00

Have there been any further developments since?

0:51:000:51:03

Well, the guy I sold the hair to,

0:51:030:51:05

he's thinking about coming out with something for the 40th anniversary,

0:51:050:51:11

-so he says we have enough hair to do 250,000 items.

-Oh, my God.

0:51:110:51:18

I mean, if anything, if we just tape a piece of the hair to a postcard,

0:51:180:51:26

and mail it out,

0:51:260:51:27

you know, I mean even if we get 50 bucks a piece, that's 12.5 million.

0:51:270:51:33

So, I mean, it could be quite a big...

0:51:330:51:37

So you could actually become a millionaire out of this hair?

0:51:380:51:42

I could, possibly, yeah.

0:51:420:51:44

So ask me again if I would do it again.

0:51:440:51:47

'With money-making schemes like this around, it must be impossible

0:51:520:51:56

'for Armstrong to know if he can trust anyone, including me.'

0:51:560:52:00

A big improvement, thank you.

0:52:000:52:01

The more I learn about Armstrong's life,

0:52:050:52:08

the better I understand why he avoids contact with the public.

0:52:080:52:11

But I have an idea, a way of offering rather than demanding.

0:52:140:52:19

Armstrong will undoubtedly refuse an interview

0:52:190:52:23

but perhaps he'll come out to play.

0:52:230:52:25

His love of flying stems from the day in 1936

0:52:250:52:29

when his dad took him for a ride in a visiting plane.

0:52:290:52:33

To better understand the effect of this experience,

0:52:330:52:37

I am going up in an original 1940s Boeing-Stearman biplane.

0:52:370:52:42

And so, just in case,

0:52:420:52:43

I'm writing Armstrong a final time to invite him to join us.

0:52:430:52:48

You never know.

0:52:480:52:50

Waiting for a response,

0:52:570:52:58

I kill some time in Wapakoneta's Neil Armstrong Museum.

0:52:580:53:02

It's a wonderful collection of items

0:53:020:53:04

from the different periods of Neil's life.

0:53:040:53:06

There is everything from his bicycle to his first plane,

0:53:060:53:11

his flight jacket from the Korean war, his Edwards test pilot boots,

0:53:110:53:16

his Gemini space suit, the Gemini 8 capsule,

0:53:160:53:20

his Apollo space suit, and even a moon rock.

0:53:200:53:24

But the best thing for a big kid like me is the Lunar Simulator

0:53:240:53:29

where you can have a go yourself at landing on the moon.

0:53:290:53:32

This is where I get to be an astronaut or not be an astronaut.

0:53:320:53:36

I'm getting it, I'm getting it now...

0:53:360:53:39

No, I'm not. Come on, come on!

0:53:390:53:42

I'm getting this one. This is going to be the one.

0:53:420:53:45

Here we go, here we go, here we go.

0:53:450:53:48

SIMULATOR: OK, we're climbing.

0:53:480:53:49

Just hold the throttle back, drifting backward.

0:53:490:53:52

20 feet down. Contact.

0:53:520:53:54

Oh, you utter... Oh, I had it that time!

0:53:540:54:00

Oh, that's so unfair.

0:54:000:54:02

I was coming down perfectly!

0:54:020:54:05

"Don't call us, we'll call you."

0:54:050:54:08

Back at my hotel room, I have mail.

0:54:100:54:13

I've got another reply from Neil.

0:54:170:54:18

"Dear Mr Smith, it is impossible for me to remember what thoughts

0:54:210:54:25

"went through my head 70 years ago.

0:54:250:54:27

"I guess it was a combination of reading about airplanes and building

0:54:270:54:31

"and flying model airplanes that was the chief motivating factor.

0:54:310:54:35

"In reading, I learnt of the history and exciting developments

0:54:350:54:38

"of aviation, and in flying model airplanes,

0:54:380:54:41

"I learned of the logic of what contributed to performance,

0:54:410:54:44

"stability and control of aircraft.

0:54:440:54:46

"Both invigorated my interest in design.

0:54:460:54:51

"Thank you for your invitation

0:54:510:54:53

"to join you at the Stearman flying event.

0:54:530:54:55

"I am already committed on both days but I'm confident that you will get

0:54:550:55:00

"a new appreciation for a breeze in the face

0:55:000:55:02

"and the sound of the wind in the rigging.

0:55:020:55:05

"Best of luck, NA."

0:55:050:55:08

No surprise there then,

0:55:110:55:13

but I'm not going to waste my chance to punch a hole in the sky.

0:55:130:55:18

I'm disappointed Neil won't be coming.

0:55:280:55:31

I'd like to have seen his engineers' eyes light up

0:55:310:55:34

at the sight of this stunning machine.

0:55:340:55:37

But my disappointment vanishes in the Stearman's open cockpit

0:55:370:55:41

as I feel the rush of air across my face just as he did.

0:55:410:55:44

Hey, we're up! Ha-ha!

0:55:470:55:51

This is fantastic!

0:56:030:56:04

It would have been wonderful for Neil to have come,

0:56:080:56:11

as I know he'd have loved the plane and enjoyed the ride.

0:56:110:56:13

HE LAUGHS

0:56:200:56:22

Up here, it's so easy to see

0:56:380:56:41

how a six year old boy's love affair with flying might have begun.

0:56:410:56:45

Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

0:56:450:56:48

You feel free in the air, and it's great fun.

0:56:480:56:52

But I'm still not sure what he meant about the wind in the rigging.

0:56:520:56:55

When we come in to land, the really nicest part of the flight,

0:56:550:56:58

I'll pull the engine back to idle

0:56:580:57:01

and you'll just hear the wind whistling through the wires.

0:57:010:57:04

It's just really peaceful.

0:57:040:57:06

Do you know what? Neil Armstrong mentioned that.

0:57:060:57:09

He said I'd enjoy that.

0:57:090:57:10

Yeah, you will.

0:57:100:57:12

ENGINE QUIETENS, WIRES WHINE

0:57:120:57:14

Oh, yeah...

0:57:190:57:20

Richard's just cut back the engine and the wires are singing.

0:57:220:57:26

WIRES HUM

0:57:260:57:28

Oh, what a peaceful vision.

0:57:430:57:45

I finally think I understand the

0:57:460:57:48

mystery of Neil Armstrong's retreat from the public.

0:57:480:57:52

In a sense, it's you and me he's retreating from -

0:57:520:57:54

our childlike wish that we could have been with him,

0:57:540:57:58

that he can tell us what it was like.

0:57:580:58:00

And he's right in his modest belief that the Apollo fame should be

0:58:020:58:05

shared among the thousands of people responsible for its success.

0:58:050:58:09

As Lindbergh himself wrote,

0:58:090:58:11

"My landing was like a match lighting a bonfire.

0:58:110:58:15

"People began to confuse the light of the bonfire

0:58:150:58:18

"with the flame of the match."

0:58:180:58:20

In the end, Neil Armstrong's greatest gift to us

0:58:210:58:25

could be his silence.

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