Meeting Bryn Terfel


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# Gwlad, gwlad

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# Pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad

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# Tra mor... #

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Bryn Terfel is one of the world's top opera singers.

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He's a bass baritone and sings a wide variety of musical genres.

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He lives in North Wales where he grew up.

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I went to meet him on the final day of a festival in his name,

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the BrynFest, at the Royal Festival Hall in London.

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# ..barhau. #

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I wanted to talk to him about his musical life

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and find out what makes him tick.

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RAUCOUS CHEERING

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Choirs from around the world are arriving

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to take part in the day's performances,

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and I'm going to start the morning with Bryn outside his dressing room.

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15, 16, 17...

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-Bryn, great to meet you.

-Hello there, good morning.

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-Really excited about today.

-Have you warmed up your voice yet?

-I have a bit.

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-Well, I've been practising this aria from The Magic Flute.

-You have?

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-The O Isis.

-Oh, that's really low.

-It's quite low.

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I'm a baritone, I don't know whether I can get that low.

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I thought at some point today, we could give it a go together.

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Why not? Well, we've got the choir here,

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we've got the quarry band here as well, warming up.

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-So it's a hive of musical activity.

-It's a good atmosphere.

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-Yeah, it's fantastic.

-How are you feeling?

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I just went for a coffee over there and already met some members of the choir from Africa, from India...

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It's brilliant.

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-This is the BrynFest, isn't it?

-Yes, yes.

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We've already had three evenings,

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so this is the one that closes the door on the festival of Bryn.

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It's nice to be interviewing someone who's actually taller than I am.

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-Am I?

-I think you are, yeah.

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I think you might be, just a little bit.

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-Shall we do back-to-back?

-Yeah, come on, then.

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What do you think?

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-Me?

-He does it, yeah.

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Yes, it's a good thing I put my heels on today.

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-Shall we go into your dressing room?

-Yes, come on.

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-How do you pronounce your name? You pronounce it Ter-vel.

-Terr-vel, yes.

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Not an F, but a V.

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Yes. In Welsh, one F is a V sound,

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and two Fs, like - what shall I say? -

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Ffestiniog, for instance, where the railway is, it's two Fs,

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so it's a 'fuh'.

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So, Terr-vel.

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How many hours' practice do you put in a day or does it vary enormously?

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Erm, depends what opera I'm singing.

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If it's a Wagner opera, then I sing quite a bit,

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just to bring this vehicle back into your voice

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because, for me personally,

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I don't know if it's the same for any other singer,

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I seem to forget German very quickly.

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So I have to keep on top of it, my finger has to be on the pulse.

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My music room at home has a window that looks over

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the Snowdonia Mountains.

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Many a score has been thrown from corner to corner, you know,

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many a glass of wine or a cup of coffee has been spilt over scores.

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It's sometimes infuriating in the music room all by yourself,

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trying to learn words, learn music,

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but when the final light at the end of the tunnel is there,

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it's such a fantastic feeling to think that you've achieved something monumental.

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I sang for the Welsh National Opera a couple of years ago

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the Meistersinger of Nuremberg which, by any yardstick,

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is the longest role ever written for my voice category.

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It took me a year to actually learn this piece.

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So it's very... Dedication, you know, homework is regimental.

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You cannot just think,

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"Oh, I can't do it today. I'm off on the golf course."

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So, yes, I have to sing nearly every day.

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10 o'clock rehearsal with choir of the world.

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10 until 12.

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Bryn will be singing various songs during the day

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and I'm going to listen to him warm up his voice.

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Bryn took part in the Cardiff Singer of the World competition in 1989

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and this helped to launch his career.

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That should do it.

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HE LAUGHS

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-Are you serious? That's it?

-Yes.

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What were you playing?

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Oh, just a little bit, just to check if it's there.

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Still there, still got it?

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Still there, still ringing.

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Hello. Ti'n iawn, blodyn?

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It's time for Bryn to rehearse with the choirs.

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First, though, there's a chance to catch up with another Welshman,

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BBC newsreader Huw Edwards,

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who will be compering the concert in the hall.

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Chi am ganu heddiw?

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THEY LAUGH

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-Not quite.

-Not quite.

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Na. Yn sicr nid tra bo ti o gwmpas!

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Singing is part of the cultural fabric of Wales

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and Bryn hails from the tradition of the Welsh male voice choir.

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Look at them in their red jackets.

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-This brings you alive, doesn't it?

-Oh, yeah.

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The older I get, maybe I'm a little bit more...

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..melancholic. I love it.

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I could have a little tear already but I'm keeping it back, maybe.

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This is the moment where it does all start to come together, doesn't it?

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Hey, they like their 'amens'!

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Amen!

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Do you think...

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-..the piano would be better there?

-In the middle?

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The problem with that is that there are choirs down here in the first half.

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-Oh, they are, right. That's fine, yeah.

-In front of the band.

-OK.

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-Let's see what it's like coming out.

-Yeah.

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See whether you're OK and whether we can be heard,

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-and Mick will decide with you if we need amplification for you.

-OK.

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# I'se weary of waitin' for the gospel train

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# Old, tired and dreary

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# Take me home again

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# Massa calls me to join... #

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Conductor Paul Bateman has worked with Bryn before.

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Who's in charge when you're working with Bryn?

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Ah, that's a good question, when working with all singers.

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It's a collaboration, you know.

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In a sense, the soloist is going to be the soloist and, therefore,

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you're accompanying the soloist.

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At the same time, you might have musical ideas

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to suggest how you want the music to be.

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But, in general, people come to a pretty quick understanding.

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# ..for the gospel train. #

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Woo-hoo!

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LAUGHTER

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Calm down, calm down!

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SHE LAUGHS

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Bryn's got a rehearsal with the pianist Annabel Thwaite,

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who's going to be accompanying him.

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-I wish I could play the piano.

-You can. We saw you earlier.

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Not like this.

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# If I can help somebody as I pass along

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# If I can cheer somebody with a word or song

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# If I can show somebody he is travelling wrong

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# Then my living shall not be in vain. #

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Good work!

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Der-dum-tsssh!

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Incredible sound! I mean... In the tiniest of rooms, as well.

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Just fantastic.

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I did a duet once with Tom Jones in one of his An Evening With Tom,

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and sang in a rehearsal room like this.

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He has - well, had - an operatic voice as a youngster.

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He could have been a tenor, undoubtedly.

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# I chwalu'r holl amheuon

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# Anfonaf angel atat ti

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# A guardian angel keeping watch till morning

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# A guardian angel with undying love

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# I'm safe with you to guide me and rest with you beside me

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# My guardian angel from above

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# My guardian angel from above. #

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-Great!

-Beautiful.

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Annabel, your instrument's the piano,

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your instrument is your voice...

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Do you treat it as an instrument and treat it with real care?

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Yes.

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I...sometimes treat it with care,

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especially when I've got big debuts and Wagnerian operas.

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That is go back home and lock the door,

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but, usually, I'm pretty, you know, comfortable.

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I like to also enjoy a little bit of life.

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-So, I've got the words, I've scribbled the words down...

-Yes.

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..to an aria from The Magic Flute.

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Yes. And this is sung by Sarastro, yeah, which I've never sang.

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-You've never sung it?

-No, because it's a bass role.

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So it's lower than you and it's actually lower than me, really,

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-cos I think I'm a bass baritone.

-Let me see, then.

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# O I... #

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Put your hands down! Why are you putting your hands up?

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-Why do my hands need to be down?

-Stay still.

-OK, I'll stay still.

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Cos people want to look at your face, not your hands.

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I'll keep my hands down, all right.

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# O Isis... #

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Your hands are up again.

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# ..und Osiris schenket

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# Die Weisheit Geist dem neuen Paar... #

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Nice. Breathe.

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# Die ihr der...

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# ..Wand'rer Schritte lenket

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# Staerkt mit Geduld sie in Gefahr

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# Staerkt mit Geduld sie in Gefahr. #

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Fantastic! Nice.

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When I had a singing teacher, he could play the piano,

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he could speak six languages,

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and he was perfect for what I had to learn in music.

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You know, I came from a little farm in North Wales.

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My dad has sheep and cows - or had, cos he's retired now.

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So it was a big culture shock to leave the square mile of North Wales,

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but I had told myself, you know,

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"This is your only chance, so you better embrace it."

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People often want to know how a big star becomes a big star,

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so how did you start out in music?

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I sang in competitions in Wales, little Eisteddfod, they call it.

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It's a gathering of people competing against each other.

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So I started performing when I was about three or four years old,

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reciting, then going into singing.

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And my parents were very influential,

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in the fact that they drove me to these different places -

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north, south, east, west.

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And it certainly gave one a love of performance.

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# Y gwrol hyn a gar wlad

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# Y gwerin a fu'n gariad... #

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Maybe I liked performing at that age,

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but then the voice started developing and people started noticing.

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I would win a couple of these competitions which is an incentive.

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For me, it gave me a little bit of money,

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which bought a new football boots or new Manchester United kit.

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It was very important for me then.

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During rehearsals,

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there's an opportunity to have a chat with Huw Edwards backstage.

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Describe Bryn's voice for me in a couple of sentences.

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Instantly recognisable,

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resonant,

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immensely powerful,

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and yet able to be sensitive.

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Probably the best quality voice of its kind anywhere in the world.

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Doesn't get much better than that.

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'Before he performs,

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'Bryn's been invited to a function hosted by the Welsh government.'

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John Morris was the British Secretary of State for Wales in the 1970s.

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Wherever you go, if you think of Welsh music these days,

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it is Bryn Terfel first, second and third.

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Roger Lewis is the group chief executive of the Welsh Rugby Union.

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I've been fortunate enough to stand in front of Bryn Terfel

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when he has sung the national anthem Mae Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau at the Millennium Stadium,

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and I tell you what, it's like having a front seat

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at Covent Garden

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because, behind me, towering, was Snowdon, vocally.

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# ..bur hoff bau

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# O bydded i'r heniaith barhau. #

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Preparations are continuing behind the scenes.

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-How are the nerves?

-Fine. No problem.

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Did you have nerves when you started out?

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I did, incredible, terrible nerves. They were...

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-..so bad that I nearly gave it all up.

-Really?

-Yeah.

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But I learned to kind of regulate them.

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You know, you do need your kind of adrenaline, I don't know...

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There's a sudden build-up to having a certain kind of nerves,

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but to be able to use it to your advantage -

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that's what you have to maybe teach yourself, or I did.

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Later in my career,

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I think I'm enjoying my singing much more than I did when I was young.

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I think more about my music.

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I embrace it more.

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When I know I've got big operas coming up,

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I look forward to them now.

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Whereas before, it was...

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..making a living, you know?

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But now it's...

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I've got Wagner's Ring coming up in Covent Garden.

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I can't tell you how much I'm chomping at the bit to get it done

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because I controversially pulled out when The Ring was there

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a couple of years ago because my son had an accident with his finger.

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And, you know, I've got three boys,

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so whilst my wife was looking after one child who was having a couple of operations,

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I had to be home to look after the other two,

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and that's the first time, really,

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that I made a decision that was primarily for my family.

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Of course people were disappointed that I pulled out of six shows, in essence.

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But I've got the chance now to repay them

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with three Cycles coming up in the autumn.

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What have you got there?

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-The Royal Festival Hall visiting artists book.

-Oh!

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I know you signed a previous one when you did your Bad Boys concert.

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-Yes.

-But could you sign these?

-Do I sign it again?

-Yes, please.

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And you can write something in Welsh, if you like.

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-You're after Harry Belafonte.

-Harry Belafonte! Well, well.

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Do you lift weights?

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-No, I don't.

-You just naturally seem very strong, then.

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I don't know. Maybe I've got the size of a rugby player from the '70s.

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I wouldn't even get into the Welsh team now. I'd be too small.

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What about the acting? Where do you learn to act?

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I... I couldn't answer you that question

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because I've always made the distinction that you should always

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trust what the director says.

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And if he says for me to do something, then I listen,

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and I write it down in my score, you know.

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I might disagree sometimes,

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but I've learned not to disagree in this profession,

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because the road ahead of you is much clearer

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and people seem to react better to you if you say yes.

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When you trained as an opera singer, did you also train to act?

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Yes, when I was at the Guildhall we had acting lessons.

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We had everything at the Guildhall,

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-jazz, blues, tap dancing - can you imagine that?

-No!

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Fencing, opera, oratorio, lieder,

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so it was like a big tree

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and all the branches were there to guide you in a given way.

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I went to the operatic branch.

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I think it's fair to say that there's a stigma attached to Wagner.

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He had extreme views and Hitler used some of his music.

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As a performer, do you leave that to one side or does it trouble you?

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Certainly, I'll leave it to one side.

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Look, I've got enough on my plate to think about,

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especially when you're singing such an important vehicle as Hans Sachs, for instance,

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and the music that you refer to was taken from the Meistersinger.

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It comes up in rehearsals, you talk about it with the director

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but, in essence, once that overture starts,

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there's only one thing on your mind -

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to be concentrated, your style, your interpretation,

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and that's what's really important.

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Other views you can leave to yourself when you close that door when you're at home.

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-Good luck, Bryn.

-Thank you, sir.

-Enjoy.

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Bryn Terfel, thank you very much.

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APPLAUSE

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# When other helpers fail and comforts flee

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# Help of the helpless

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# O, abide with me

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# Hold thou thy cross before my closing eyes

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# Shine through the gloom and point me to the skies

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# Heaven's morning breaks and Earth's vain shadows flee

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# In life, in death O, Lord, abide with me

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# In life, in death O Lord, abide with me. #

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APPLAUSE

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Wow!

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There we go. A little song.

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-How did that go, Bryn?

-That? Oh, excellent!

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Wow!

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Does the voice become more powerful as you get older? Or richer?

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No. No, I don't think so.

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Maybe there are tricks of the trade

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that you are content to use later on in life, I don't know.

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Ask me in about ten years.

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But, at the moment, I'm enjoying my singing,

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and you can't beat that -

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to walk into your office with a smile on your face.

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CHEERING

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The day concludes with the big sing,

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where members of the public can join with Bryn

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and the choirs in a medley of songs.

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# Can you hear me? #

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-AUDIENCE:

-Yes!

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Let me sing some Wagner first to just warm the voice up.

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LAUGHTER

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# Abendlich strahlt die Sonne... #

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Yeah, that's OK.

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LAUGHTER

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# I am weak, but thou art mighty

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# Hold me with thy powerful hand

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# Bread of heaven

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# Bread of heaven

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# Feed me till I want no more

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# Want no more

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# Feed me till I want no more. #

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# Agor y ffynhonnau melys

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# Sydd yn tarddu or Graig i maes

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# 'Rhyd yr anial mawr canlyned

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# Afon iachawdwriaeth gras

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# Rho im hynny, rho im hynny

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# Dim i mi ond dy fwynhau

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# Dim i mi ond dy fwynhau

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# I will ever give to thee Give to thee

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# I will ever give to thee. #

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CHEERING

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There are plenty of autographs to sign and photos to be taken

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when the music stops.

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I'm going to slip this inside.

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Bryn's first language is Welsh and he's got an interview with Welsh TV station S4C,

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before I get to ask some final questions in English.

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..stad y Faenol, yn yr awyr agored o flaen y Fenai.

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How do you actually deal with the celebrity side of things?

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Look, I have seen Placido Domingo,

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I have seen Jose Carreras sign

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signatures and books and scores and pictures till 3am,

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in a place called Peralada in Spain.

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And I was the last one in that queue, when I was 23 years old,

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for Carreras to sign my score and I said to him,

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"Jose, I've learnt something from you today.

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"You are the most gracious, most warm human being that I've ever seen.

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"And you only gave your time." You know, he signed for four hours.

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I signed for 30 minutes, so if Carreras can do it,

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then it's good enough for me to do it as well.

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I want to ask you what your top karaoke song is or,

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if you don't do it, what it would be.

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It would be...

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# I went to the desert on a horse with no name

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# It felt good to be out of the rain. #

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America.

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Here's, perhaps, a silly question, but do you ever have to audition for anything any more?

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HA! Huh!

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Erm, good question!

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-No.

-No, I haven't auditioned for anything apart from one thing,

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which was a couple of years ago.

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I sang an opera that Roger Waters from Pink Floyd had written -

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Ca Ira it was called - and I auditioned for that.

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It was kind of a recording audition, though,

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in San Francisco, New York and Los Angeles.

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-I finally got to record the whole piece...

-So you got it?

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I did, which was an incredible meeting of horns again,

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because I loved Pink Floyd when I was a teenager,

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and have since become friends with Roger.

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He's an avid golfer, fisherman,

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he's a big supporter of Arsenal and I'm a supporter of Manchester United.

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He loves his English rugby and I love my Welsh rugby,

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so it's just the perfect collaboration.

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But that was the only time, maybe the last time,

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I had to audition for something.

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What would you like your legacy to be?

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My legacy is that I tried my best.

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Bryn Terfel, thank you very, very much for letting me spend the day with you.

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Ah, it's been a pleasure! Thank you very much.

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# ..hoff bau

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# O bydded i'r heniaith barhau. #

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CHEERS AND APPLAUSE

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