Episode 3 Gareth Wyn Jones - Milk Man


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Milk - we pour it on our cereals and stick it in our tea.

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In the UK, we consume over nine billion pints every year.

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But have we forgotten where it comes from?

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I don't think people really know how much work goes into getting milk

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onto our shelves.

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Along with the dairy farms and cows that produce it,

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milk has shaped our countryside and our way of life.

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The dairy industry is just one piece of the jigsaw,

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within the whole countryside.

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But now the industry is facing a crisis like never before.

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This is the worst period I've seen in my working life.

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Over the past 15 years, the number of dairy farmers

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in Wales has halved.

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On average, three farmers leave the industry every month.

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It's an embarrassment on me and myself that I can't make it pay.

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The traditional family dairy farm is in serious trouble.

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There isn't a future for every dairy farmer.

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Milk is now a global commodity and dairy is big business,

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at the mercy of the world markets.

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Can Welsh farmers survive in this new cut-throat world?

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There must be room for the small family farm.

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My name is Gareth Wyn Jones.

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I'm a hill farmer and campaigner for the best of Welsh food and farming.

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Do you know how much you are paying for your milk?

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I want to explore the dairy industry from the inside,

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from the cow to the consumer

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and from the farm to the supermarket shelf.

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I want to see what it takes to satisfy our thirst for milk

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and find out if there is a future for the Welsh dairy farm.

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On my journey through the Welsh dairy industry,

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I've seen the challenges dairy farmers face

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in an increasingly volatile global market.

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The underlying thing is that we don't know

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what's going to happen tomorrow.

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I've seen how the big retailers source their milk and challenge

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them on their prices.

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As a farmer myself,

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I feel supermarkets have played a big part in devaluing milk.

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And how milk is processed on a huge industrial scale.

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This is what it takes to supply the major supermarkets.

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So, I want to see what the future holds for the dairy industry

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in Wales and if there is another way of working.

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I'm in the hills outside Lampeter to meet organic dairy farmer

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Patrick Holden, a man with a different vision for the future

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of Welsh agriculture.

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In my opinion, as a kind of direction,

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we need to try to think of the farm as being the main source of all the

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food that the animals eat.

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What we are trying to do here,

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we are trying to feed our dairy cows to the maximum extent

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from this hill.

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Feeding the livestock is one of the most expensive parts

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of the farm's outgoings. So, Patrick aims to grow as much as possible

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on the farm, all organic,

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keeping the business as sustainable as possible.

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With a bit of luck, and some clement weather, this crop,

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which is oats and peas, will constitute about 50% of the grain

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that we are feeding to the cattle in the winter.

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So, you are going back to the old-fashioned way of farming,

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really? This is what would be here maybe 50 years ago.

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Yes. After the war, there was still a lot of mixed farming in Wales,

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a mixture of sheep and cattle, including dairy herds,

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and arable land, growing grain, very often to feed the cattle.

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So, this is really a way of you being self-sufficient, saving money,

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-isn't it, really?

-Our ideal would be to produce as much food as we can

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from this hill, with the minimum reliance on outside inputs.

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At a time when farmers are under pressure to increase herd sizes

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and cut costs, Patrick is swimming against the tide and staying small.

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Do you think some of these bigger companies have driven people just

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for that end goal, which is profitability?

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During the time that we have been here,

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farmers have been encouraged to get on a treadmill of intensification,

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to have more and more animals, and I think that has done no-one any good,

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especially the farming community, ironically.

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Are you telling me big is not better?

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I think small is beautiful.

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We walked very slowly up to them all together.

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Patrick moved down to West Wales in the '70s,

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as part of the first wave of organic pioneers,

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determined to start a quiet revolution in food.

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Come on, girls. Let's do a fan shape and get them in now.

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He's farmed the 130 acres of Bwlchwernen Fawr ever since,

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and now milks around 70 Ayrshire cows.

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Problem with modern dairy cows is that we've chased the yield...

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-Yeah.

-Resulting in cows that never get out,

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give 10,000 or 12,000 litres of milk.

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Do we really want to drink the milk from those cows?

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Ayrshires don't produce as much milk as other breeds.

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But the milk is rich in butter fat and protein.

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It's the perfect raw material for another product.

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Since 2006, we took a big step,

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we commenced cheese-making.

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Before that, we were selling our milk away.

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But we felt that we wanted to add value to the milk here on the farm.

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And as we speak, 80% of all the milk that is produced here on this farm

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is going just across the yard there through an underground pipe

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into our cheese vat.

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We are making it into a cheddar style cheese called Hafod,

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so, really, the whole story is right here.

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Working with expert cheesemakers,

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Patrick and his family developed their own recipe.

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They now produce 200kg every other day

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and sell to shops all over Britain.

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Wow!

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That is a sight to see.

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-This is a cathedral of cheese.

-It is! It's amazing!

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It's just something that you don't expect to find on a farm, do you?

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And these big lumps... When I looked in to begin with,

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I thought they were just logs.

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And you can just smell it.

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There's 30 tonnes of cheese in this store.

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And there's something wonderful about this place holding the fruits

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of the farm's labour for a whole year.

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I'm just getting a strange smell of hay.

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Like I'm in a barn, a hay barn, an old-fashioned hay barn.

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The cheese is a product of the farm, so the smells are of the farm,

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of the grass, that the cows ate.

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-Yes.

-So, this cheese is unique to this farm.

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This store is full of microbes that are slowly transforming the raw milk

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into cheese and giving it its distinct flavour.

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That is just to break the seal, is it?

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Yes, that's right. Right, now, what you do is take a piece off...

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That's it. That's perfect.

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That is just so creamy.

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-Beautiful.

-You can taste another one if you want.

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Just to try the difference.

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Do you know what? I am definitely wanting to try another one.

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But that was amazing.

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The cheese tastes strongly of the farm and the land that made it.

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This is your pride and joy now, isn't it?

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Yes, it is and all food has a back story,

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it's just that mostly we don't know it these days.

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Because it is hidden from us.

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-People have lost that connection with how this is done.

-Yeah.

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It must be really lovely for you to come in here and see the fruits

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-of your labour.

-It is, it's quite moving, really.

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Of course, it's also scary, because we've got probably a quarter of a

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million worth of cheese in this store, which all had to be borrowed,

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because we didn't have capital to put into this business.

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So, it's high-risk,

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you do the best you can with all the different variables,

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and then you wait and you cross your fingers.

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We are just about climbing out of this big debt mountain that we've

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accumulated. It looks as if we are going to start really paying off the

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-borrowing now.

-But a massive gamble, a massive challenge.

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The truth is that we had to go on this journey of adding value to our

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milk as part of our survival strategy,

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because you will know as well as I do that a dairy farm of 70 cows,

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which in my opinion is the right size for a family scale dairy,

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is not viable any more.

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So, unless you add value to the milk one way or another,

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it's difficult to survive economically.

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I believe that this model of taking a raw material, in our case milk,

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adding value to it on the farm and then selling a product with a story

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is the right way to go -

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not just for us, but for all farmers who have the capacity to do that.

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Patrick found his farm at this size was not going to be sustainable

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and he's looked for another way to make a profit out of what he's

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producing and it's a big gamble and he has invested everything he's got.

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But the control is in his own hands now.

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If we can get more people to do this,

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maybe if there could be more of a sustainable future for some of our

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smaller family farms, this might be, you know, a way forward.

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This isn't the first time that dairy farmers have had to adapt

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in the face of adversity.

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Now, the figures are startling.

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More than 4,000 dairy farms have closed in the past four years.

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The National Farmers Union says the industry is on the verge of

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collapse, with thousands of...

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The union believes up to a third of all dairy farmers

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could go out of business in the next year, if they don't get more cash.

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In the '80s, the European Union introduced quotas on the amount of

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milk farms could produce and putting a levy on any surplus.

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Milk prices crashed.

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Here in Wales, some dairy farmers took to the streets in protest.

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Leading the charge was Pembrokeshire dairy farmer's wife Thelma Adams.

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Thelma, how bad was it 32 years ago?

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Well, it was pretty bad.

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We were told that any milk that was overproduced and that we would send

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to the dairies would incur a charge of 30p a litre.

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So, a lot of people just threw their milk down the drain.

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Because there was no alternative.

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People's livelihoods were at stake.

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What were we to do on the family farm?

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Was it worth carrying on?

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But you felt very strong about it.

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Your feelings were that something needed to be done...

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-Yes.

-And it needed to be highlighted.

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I thought of this idea of sitting in the bath and bathing in milk.

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And we rode through the town of Carmarthen

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on tractors and completely snarled up the country town.

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Thelma, along with a handful of other farmers' wives,

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took inspiration from Cleopatra, the Queen of ancient Egypt,

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who was said to bathe in milk.

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So, did the campaign work?

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Yes, yes. In a light-hearted way, but getting, hopefully,

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getting the message across that it was serious.

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One of your catchphrases back then was that milk is cheaper than water.

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The sad thing is that things are still just as bad, or even worse,

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32 years later.

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Because what other product can you say now is cheaper

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than it was 32 years ago?

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As a result of the crisis in the '80s,

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Thelma and husband Gwynfor decided to steer their farm

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in a new direction.

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This is the curds that are actually being formed.

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We are making sure they are the right sort of moisture for the

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natural starter cultures to do their work.

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And today, their business continues to thrive under the watchful eye of

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Thelma's son, Carwyn.

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They now produce a variety of speciality cheeses,

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including Thelma's original Caerphilly

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and their award-winning Perl Las.

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So, this is all one type of cheese, this one?

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Yeah, this is all Perl Wen, this one.

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Perl Wen wheels, they'll be about 1.2 kilos in weight.

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-Oh, there's a weight on that.

-There is some weight.

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-But there's still a lot of moisture left in that.

-Yes.

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So, that will drain slowly overnight. They are quite big,

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but they'll end up about half that size by tomorrow morning.

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-Right, this is tough.

-Is it?

-Really tough, yeah.

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-OK.

-Whatever you do, don't let go.

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-You pick it up and turn it over.

-Just... Just be gentle now, OK?

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-Because...

-Up off this and flick it over...

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-OK.

-Ready?

-Yeah.

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That's it.

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That's not easy. That's not easy.

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-That goes back, then?

-Yeah.

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Leave it to the professionals.

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The farm no longer has its own dairy herd, but instead,

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sources all of their milk from farms in the surrounding areas.

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And the farmers that supply you are quite happy with the price

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-they are getting?

-I hope so.

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We can actually give them a bit of a premium back

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from what they would get on a commodity market.

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They want stability as much as we do.

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And I also want to be fair as well, at the end of the day.

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-It's a working relationship.

-Yeah.

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The last thing I want is an angry supplier, because, you know,

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somebody angry isn't going to put love into the work, are they?

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No, no. No. You are the middleman, really.

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You've got the power, as much as anybody else here.

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I guess so, yes.

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Basically, the plan really is to buy as much milk as I can,

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so we can process more and hopefully have more sustainable countryside.

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That's the challenge for me, really. So I can give something back

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-to the economy.

-Is it a nice feeling to take that power back

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to yourself, really? You are helping a lot of people

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within the local economy by doing this, are you?

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Yeah, I like to think so.

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At the end of the day, it's a business, but, you know,

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there's lots of other businesses you can do.

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This is something quite close to my heart, really.

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-Yeah.

-It's difficult to find work around these areas.

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So, if I can do something in the countryside

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and make other people work in the countryside, then it's great.

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Yeah. By diversifying, Thelma and her family

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have secured the future for their farm

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and for other farms around them.

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Many people believe this is the way forward.

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Dr Sean Rickard is a former chief economist

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for the National Farmers Union.

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He believes there are big opportunities for producers

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who are brave enough to embrace change.

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Farmers are going to have to just learn,

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as every other small businesses learn,

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that you survive if you delight your market.

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There's tremendous opportunities out on the world for people

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producing quality dairy products.

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There's not much opportunity for people who are just producing

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bog-standard milk.

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Dairy farmers need to turn their milk into a really good butter

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or cheese and offer people something a bit different.

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And you can find a number of relatively small farmers

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who have very profitable businesses doing that.

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So you're telling me there is a light at the end of the tunnel for

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-the dairy industry?

-Of course.

-And that might be a way forward

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-for these people?

-Absolutely. If I'm offering you a cheese

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with a certain flavour, perhaps a certain additional whatever,

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which has been produced from the grass grown in Wales, or whatever,

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that's a different value proposition and what you find is that an awful

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lot of people are quite prepared to pay a few more pence for that.

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That's the way to do it. That's the clever way to do it.

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That's the sustainable way to do it.

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Wales is at the forefront of a food revolution.

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All over the country,

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Artisan food producers are reviving traditional methods

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or developing new products.

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-Hi, Gareth.

-Hello.

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This is really different to see on a farm, a dairy farm especially.

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-It's great.

-At her farm near Ruthin, Anna Taylor and her family

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are using the milk from the organic Swiss Brown herd

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to produce something for those with a sweeter tooth.

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Woo-hoo!

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Lovely. It started as a bit of a joke, actually, and we said,

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"Wouldn't it be great to make ice cream?"

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And then once we looked into it more and more,

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it became actually a really feasible option.

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We are going to be making honey and lavender.

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So, it's using a locally sourced honey

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from the Denbighshire area and a really delicious

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lavender essential food oil.

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-It's really good.

-Wow!

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-So, you're going to do it all.

-Oh, right! OK.

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'While most of the farm's milk is still sold into the organic bottled

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'market, some of it ends up here in the family's very own

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'miniature ice cream factory.'

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So, everything is weighed in. A bit of skill to this.

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-Definitely.

-Honey is not the easiest thing in the world to pour, really,

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is it? You've just got me to do this, haven't you...

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-Yeah.

-Because it's difficult, I think.

-OK.

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Lavender. I love the smell of lavender.

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-Pure lavender oil.

-Yeah.

-That is beautiful.

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Yeah. That's it.

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God.

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'In a crowded marketplace, packed with big powerful brands,

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'new businesses need to find a way to stand out.'

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Really smells nice.

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'Clever marketing, a unique product, and a positive story.

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'Even the big companies were small once.'

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So, do you want to try a bit?

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You made that.

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I can truly say that is absolutely amazing.

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Those cows have been milked this morning, we've taken the milk,

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brought it in here and turned it into something

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that anybody can enjoy.

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It's making a lot more money for the farm than you could do ever selling

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-liquid milk.

-Absolutely, yeah.

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It gives us the opportunity to offer stability for the farm,

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but also something else,

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a different option for our children to have when they grow up.

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And it's quite an easy way to add value to a product, really.

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Definitely more value than just selling the milk.

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When you consider what they are charging for milk in a supermarket

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and the farmers aren't getting much, really, as a general rule,

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it is adding value to that product

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and showing how fabulous that milk is.

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It's fantastic to see these new products doing so well,

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but I know it's not the answer for all farmers.

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So, what about good old-fashioned liquid milk?

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Over the past few weeks,

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I've seen how complex the milk industry has become -

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a vast national supply chain, very efficient and massively competitive.

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So, you'd think this would be the last place for a small producer to

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take on the big guys.

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Well, you'd be wrong.

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On the Lleyn Peninsula at Madryn Isaf is Llaethdy Llyn.

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-Bore da, Nia. Sut wyt it?

-Helo, Gareth!

-Ti'n iawn?

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-Ydw.

-Ti'n iawn?

-Pwy 'dy'r hogyn yma?

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In the far west of North Wales,

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they are too far from the motorway system to try and win one of the

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supermarket milk contracts.

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And as a small farm with just 80 cows,

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Nia Jones and her family have found themselves struggling.

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You know, our options are quite narrow, to be honest.

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The farm isn't big, so we can't increase the herd.

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The infrastructure isn't there. You know, we'd need some more

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sheds, we'd need more land, we'd need a bigger milking parlour.

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And it just...

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-The maths doesn't add up at the moment, to be honest.

-Yeah.

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So, they've been forced to find another way of working

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and Nia believes she's spotted a gap in the market.

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There is no local milk at all in north-west Wales.

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It's all brought in to an area which is full of dairy cattle.

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-Yeah.

-Absolutely mad.

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But that's what we're aiming for.

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That's our selling point.

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It's fresh, it's local, and it's out on the shelf in a day.

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They are taking back control of the whole supply chain.

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They are milking, processing,

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bottling and delivering their milk to the local area.

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The Jones family are literally betting the farm on the idea

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that people will buy local milk.

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You've taken a big step into the unknown, really.

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We have.

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Still nervous about it?

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Yeah, yeah. Yesterday was a bit of a...

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"Oh, my God, what have we done?" day!

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And then you have a good day,

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because you've got all these insecurities.

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People, do they want it, you know?

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-Yeah.

-And then when they start buying it, "Wow, they do want it."

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-Does that give you a buzz?

-Yeah, it does.

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When I saw it on the shelf in Spar in Nefyn for the first time

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and I saw a man putting it in his trolley...

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-Yeah, yeah.

-After I'd finished snogging him...

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I put him down.

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That's the best sales pitch I've ever heard.

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And Nia is not just selling milk, she is selling a story -

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a small family farm,

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a traditional way of working and a personal relationship with the cows.

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I've got names for a lot of them.

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-Have you?

-Mm.

-So you've got favourite as well?

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-Oh, yes. Definitely.

-This cow behind you keeps looking round.

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Yeah, they do. She's called Horny,

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-for obvious reasons.

-Horny?!

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I'm glad it's for obvious reasons.

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Yeah.

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My husband didn't do a very good de-horning job with her.

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That's nice, that, isn't it, Nia, but you've got names for them?

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They think I'm absolutely batty.

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No, I don't think so.

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There's one called Nia Mai, which is my name.

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-She was born on the same day as me.

-Oh, brilliant.

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Milking is just the start of the process.

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While about half of the farm's milk still goes to a large processor,

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the other half is loaded into a tank ready for the next stage.

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-All the milking done and all loaded up.

-Yeah. Ready to go.

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There's about 1,500 litres in there.

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Unlike the milk we buy in supermarkets,

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which can travel hundreds of miles to and from huge processing plants,

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this milk is going just down the road.

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In nearby Pwllheli,

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Nia's husband Sion looks after their new processing plant.

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A substantial investment for the new company.

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This looks a really complicated operation.

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Today, they are processing this morning's milk.

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In this one room, the milk is separated, pasteurised,

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and homogenised.

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Everything has to be done to the highest standard

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-and is strictly monitored.

-And the gauge on the front

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is like a lorry tracker graph.

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Every time we pasteurise, we've got to keep that as a record,

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that it has gone to temperature.

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It's not just milking the cow and sticking it in the bottle.

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No. There is a lot to it, yes.

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They also provide a range of products

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to cater for different tastes.

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This is what they call the separator.

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Depending on what milk we want,

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it separates the cream out of the milk and we are left with the skim.

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So, you do the same as any other big dairy, really?

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You've got to really acquire for everybody's taste here.

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Yes.

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Every week, this plant can bottle almost 10,000 pints of milk.

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And it's all done by hand.

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It's a bit of a different world for you to be in here

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-than to be in the parlour.

-It's the only way I can see

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that we can go forward.

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I think this will be a better way of sustaining the farm from now on.

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I'm overwhelmed with work, really.

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We've had a bit of a shock how much milk goes into these places.

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-Yeah.

-We are taking over 100 litres just to the Spar in Abersoch.

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So, you are taking 100 litres to one shop?

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Yes. Yes, and I have been every day.

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While most of the major retailers sell four pints for a pound,

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it costs around 50p more for four pints of Nia and Sion's milk,

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but they believe it's worth every penny.

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Does it give you a good feeling to see it here in the local shop?

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-It is good actually. It is.

-You are in control of the price.

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You are in control of the whole system.

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And that's why we've done it, that's why we've done it,

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more than anything, is to get that control back.

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-Yeah.

-You know. It's the only way I can see forward

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for my son, for my children as well, yes.

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Nia and Sion have taken on a huge task.

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Where once their job finished at the farm gates,

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now they're taking on the whole supply chain.

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-So, what's at stake here?

-Well, everything.

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-I might as well be honest, you know.

-Is it?

-Yeah.

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Put all your eggs into this basket.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, just hope that it works, you know.

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You've taken a massive leap of faith, really, haven't you?

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So, you must have a lot of faith in this product?

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Oh, yes, I do.

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And, you know, it shouldn't be sold for less than it's worth.

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There's a lot of science that goes into that.

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Many, many years of experience and if those farmers go,

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where you going to get that experience from?

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-It's time for things to change.

-Yeah, yeah.

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And you're taking that first step, taking that change,

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-hopefully?

-Hopefully, yes. Yes.

-Yeah. Da iawn.

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I've got massive respect for Nia and Sion.

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They didn't want to go bigger,

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so they have taken that massive leap of faith and really gone for it.

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They are selling the milk, bottling it, processing it, doing everything,

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they are not depending on anybody else.

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They are really standing up for what they are producing.

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And I hope, I really do hope, that they succeed.

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And so my journey through the dairy industry is over.

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I've learned so much over the past few months.

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It is an amazing operation.

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I think it's changed my outlook.

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Farmers are facing a complex set of challenges,

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and I know there are no easy solutions.

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-Keep going, that's what's important.

-Yeah, yeah.

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-Thanks, Gareth.

-No problem. Diolch yn fawr.

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But I really think that we, as the public, as consumers,

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take milk for granted.

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It takes a heck of a lot of work to put it into that bottle,

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to put it on that shelf.

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It doesn't cost a lot to buy, but it's worth a lot to those

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who produce it.

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And I think we need to value it more.

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So, can I ask you all,

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to raise a glass of this fantastic white stuff to all the hard working

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dairy farmers out there.

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Iechyd da.

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