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We like wrapping things up in ribbon in Parliament.

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Since time immemorial, green has been the colour of the House of Commons

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and red the colour of the House of Lords.

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For 100 years,

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a delicate balance of power has existed between our two

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Houses of Parliament.

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This is the splendidly traditional way in which the two Houses

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exchange messages.

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But now, that's under threat.

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Come on, the Lords.

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Come on, your lordships.

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Division!

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We just, we just won, that is great.

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See, the House of Lords, rocking.

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In a year that has seen political orders overturned around the world,

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the Commons and Lords have been fighting their own battle -

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with each other.

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We've been behind the scenes where no-one's filmed before.

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Not all men are keen on wearing diamante buckles on their slippers.

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Who will win this war of wills?

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Hello, Lord.

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Monty, it's Keith, can you take a message, please?

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Yeah, thanks, mate, cheers, bye.

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-OK, Mr Beamish.

-This is the fun bit,

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when the police clear everybody aside

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and it makes me feel like Moses crossing the Red Sea,

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and the waters parting.

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The most important people are made to stand aside.

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I think they're ready.

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Chief clerk David Beamish is carrying a Bill back to the Commons

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with suggested amendments made by the Lords.

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It's probably one of those things that's become fossilised in time

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and nobody's ever thought to change it,

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a bit like the clerks still wearing 18th-century dress with wigs and gowns.

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The Lords' role is to revise legislation and to ask the Government to

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think again.

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The way we describe the whole Houses of Commons is at

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the other end are the students

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and the schoolchildren, they do the work,

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and the House of Lords are the teachers.

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So it's sent up, we mark it, correct it,

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send it back down and then laws and bills are passed.

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Morning.

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On the way out there will be a short test, OK?

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If you get less than 90% you're back in for an hour, all right?

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That includes you.

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If the two Houses can't agree,

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the unelected Lords are supposed to give way to the Commons.

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Division!

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But since the Tories came to power in 2015,

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rebellious lords have thrown their weight around and derailed key

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Government policies.

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The Government has had enough.

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Sometimes people come here and think that they can overturn

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an elected government, and they can't, and they shouldn't,

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and they need to be disabused of that view.

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It's winter, 2015.

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The Prime Minister has called on his party's most canny operator in

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the Lords to rein them in.

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When residing at his London home, rather than his Scottish estate,

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hereditary peer Lord Strathclyde

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has one of the shortest commutes in Westminster.

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I think I can do it in about three minutes,

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maybe even quicker if I have to run.

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The Prime Minister wants him to review the power the Lords has to

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block the Government.

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This is the small, back-door entrance to the House of Lords,

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which I like, it's very quiet and calm.

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I never tire of coming into this building.

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I don't really believe in ghosts,

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but there are ancient voices that come through late at night.

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You somehow feel the spirits

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of the great men and women who have been here in the past...

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And played their part in the governance of the country

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in one form or another.

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George IV, liked dressing up.

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These are well-trodden paths, well-trodden.

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-Hello.

-Hello.

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Lord Garel-Jones, lovely to see you.

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I feel very comfortable here.

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I've been here quite a long time, so I know all these people very well.

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When he first came here, it was a very different place.

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Dominated by hereditary peers like him.

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There's our front bench, there I am,

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a far more youthful me than I seem to remember.

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It was a different House, there's no doubt about that,

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from the way it is today.

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There's a great team of people there,

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as there were on the Opposition.

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I've always said that Labour make a far better opposition than they do

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a government, when it comes to the House of Lords.

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They don't like me saying that, though!

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Reform in 1999 kicked out most of the aristocrats.

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Now Labour and Lib Dems outgun the Tories.

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For the first time we have a Conservative Government who don't

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have a natural majority in the House of Lords,

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which they had for much of the 20th century.

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This is the first time that a Labour Party, in Opposition,

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has had the kind of power and control over the House

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that it has demonstrated.

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I think I need to take their lordships to the clifftop

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and let them look over the edge.

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Well, in some ways, I think

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Tom Strathclyde is an ideal person to do this,

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but he's a foxy, crafty character.

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A former Lib Dem MP, Lord Tyler,

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has a humble bedsit round the corner from the Lords.

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Never used the cooker, ever.

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Well, I think once,

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but it was just to warm up a pizza which had gone rather flabby.

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I think when I was a student I had a slightly bigger room.

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Normally, it's a quick breakfast and then off to the Lords.

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Back again quite late.

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I'm so used to it, it doesn't seem odd.

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I suspect anybody else would think it's very odd,

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peculiar people to live that sort of life.

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The last election saw the Lib Dems

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cut down to just eight MPs in the Commons.

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But in the Lords, they still have 100 unelected peers,

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unwilling to give up any of their power.

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If there was an attempt to take on the House of Lords and try,

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as it were, to lame us, nobble us, neutralise us, make us impotent,

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the Lords would not go down without a fight.

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The stage is set for an historic showdown

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between the Government and the Lords.

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This is not a place that always welcomes change.

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When I tell people where I work and what I wear,

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quite a lot of people don't believe me or refuse to believe it happens

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like this any more. They think it's quite funny.

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We work in this amazing building.

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The uniform goes with the building.

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You put a role on with the uniform and it's a bit of an act.

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We wear a black waistcoat because we are still in mourning

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for Prince Albert. No-one told the doorkeepers,

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"OK, we've mourned enough now, so you can stop."

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We've been in mourning for 150 years.

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It's very strange putting it on for the first time,

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you do hold yourself a bit stiffer and a bit more upright and you act,

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I think, in a little more of a formal way

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once you've got the uniform on.

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But I think that's the point of it.

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When Lords and Commons don't see eye-to-eye there are more votes.

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There's no electronic voting here.

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Whatever their age, peers vote with their feet.

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The whips, who are normally sitting around this area,

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will give us an idea of which groups are likely to have a division.

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First of all we listen out for, "Clear the bar".

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That means there is a division.

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The clerks would start counting eight minutes.

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So, as soon as that happens, we open the doors into the voting lobbies...

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..we lock the door at the other end of the voting lobby.

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As soon as the clerk indicates that eight minutes is up,

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all the doors shut.

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If a member turns up two seconds past, they cannot come in.

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Sometimes you really do literally

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have to slam the door in somebody's face.

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As lords wait nervously for the publication of Lord Strathclyde's report,

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party leaders on all sides urge their members to show restraint.

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But for 83-year-old Lord Dubs,

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there is one burning issue that is more important than party politics

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and bowing to the will of the Commons.

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Across Europe, refugees are fleeing war and persecution.

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He's visiting the thousands of refugees stranded in Calais.

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I want to ensure that Britain plays its part in giving safety to

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the children who are vulnerable to being sucked into trafficking,

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into prostitution, into criminality, into drugs.

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Very vulnerable young people.

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He knows what it's like to be a refugee.

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Mum and Dad, from their Czech passports.

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That's my father, a bit overweight he was!

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And my mum.

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That was about three weeks after the Nazis occupied Prague.

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These were good friends of ours and when the Nazis came eventually

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they both went to concentration camps.

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He didn't survive and she went to a camp and she survived.

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And that's me in the middle.

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He was rescued by the British Government.

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All I remember is we were all on the train, I didn't know anybody else,

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all children.

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I was one of the youngest.

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My mum was there with a friend looking very anxious and all

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the other parents were there looking desperately anxious saying goodbye

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to the children they might never see -

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some of them realised they'd never see them again -

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and off the train went.

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At that time, Britain was the only country that was persuaded to

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take Kinder transport children from Germany, Austria and Czechoslovakia.

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All the other countries said no, even the Americans said no.

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Lord Dubs wants to amend the Government's Immigration Bill

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to give 3,000 refugee children a home in Britain.

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'What I want to do is to give at least some of them the chance

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'of having safety in this country

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'in the way this country gave me safety.

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'I'm seeking support from the bishops,

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'from the Lib Dems and the crossbenchers and hopefully some of the Conservatives

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'because I believe if there's any chance of winning,

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'it's got to be done on the basis of broad political support.'

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Rebellious lords have the advantage that they can't be sacked.

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Unlike MPs,

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they have a job for life and aren't accountable

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to constituents or party - only to themselves.

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I'm quite torn about this, actually,

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because obviously

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as a Conservative peer, which I am,

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I want to support the Conservative Government,

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it's not very mysterious.

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But I do feel that when

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the Opposition put up sensible amendments,

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I do find it quite difficult to vote against that.

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That's part of the spirit of the Lords.

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I was a party political person for many years

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and therefore I always

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obeyed the party whip, or I tended to obey the party whip as far

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as I can remember, but now I'm footloose and fancy free,

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I can vote exactly which way I want, I don't give a damn,

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nobody instructs me, I do whatever I think is right.

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Many peers, like Admiral Lord West,

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are out of step with their party leadership.

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I think I'm slightly unusual in that I lie to the left of centre in

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the way I think and the things that I do but I'm not a member of

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the Socialist Workers Party, that would be too far for me to go.

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I take the Labour whip,

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but if one absolutely doesn't agree with something

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you just don't turn up or, you know, if you really, really are grumpy,

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you vote the other way and if someone puts pressure on you,

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well, you know, rabbit away, mate, is basically it because, you know,

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at the end of the day, they can do nothing about it.

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Lord West is a leading contributor to debates on defence but he also

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pursues his own interests regardless of party policy.

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Because I'm in the Lords, that gives me a platform.

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If I were just AN Other person in Tunbridge Wells, you know,

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Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells, that gets no traction.

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Right, here we go.

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I'll let you take charge of the buttons.

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Today, Lord West is using his privileged platform to entertain

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his passion for flags and heraldry.

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He's persuaded the authorities to let him onto the palace roof.

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Not something one does every day.

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Well, I think Albert probably does, you do it every day, do you?

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Yes, we do, yes.

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There we are.

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The whole parliamentary estate all laid out below us.

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Must be one of the best views in London.

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You can see for miles up here.

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-Do you have your lunch up here, bag meals?

-Oh, no!

-Oh, I would.

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-Aren't you allowed to?

-No food's allowed up.

-Oh, no!

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Well, I'd probably cheat and have a little picnic up here.

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Bloody brilliant it would be, wouldn't it?!

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Before, it only used to fly when the House was sitting and we felt that

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was not correct. This is the seat of the mother of all parliaments,

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the seat of government in this country, and we didn't even fly our

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own flag, which seemed to us totally ridiculous.

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We said, "Why not fly it every day? We should fly it every day."

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We've managed to achieve that.

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Now, one of the next steps is to have the flag of England, Scotland,

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Wales and a bare flagpole

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because there isn't a flag for Northern Ireland

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but we think there should be

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and when they see there's a bare flagpole there,

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this might get some move towards actually producing one.

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Morning, Lord.

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It's January 2016,

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and peers return from their winter break to get their hands on

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the hottest document in Westminster.

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Do you have a copy of the Strathclyde report?

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-It's just there.

-Lovely.

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Thanks very much. Thank you.

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The House of Lords is never going to like this report,

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to which I say, well, you should never have done what you did.

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I don't think it's going to be a best seller.

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The pigeons will be fluttering.

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Who the cat is, in this case, I'm not yet so sure.

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Can we prepare the lobby, please, doorkeepers?

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Lord Strathclyde has decided to go for the nuclear option.

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He's recommended a new law curbing the Lords' powers to block the Government.

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We don't like it.

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We certainly don't like it.

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I don't think the crossbenchers are going to like it

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and they are crucial in this debate.

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Peers will have the chance to debate the report

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but if the Government wants to make the recommendations law,

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they'll be powerless to stop it.

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Well, I'm going to go into the chamber and it will be, I expect,

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about six hours before we get out, maybe even longer than that.

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We'll see.

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Long debates like this one can last many hours.

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The Lords still use a messaging system that predates the digital age

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to keep them in touch with the outside world.

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Some of them are very trivial, some of them are "Please ring home",

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some of them are,

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"Would you like to talk to the Times about this subject?"

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We're supposed to be invisible.

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We don't hang around, we just get the things in and then skedaddle.

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It's very personal, yes, and just somewhat Victorian.

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Lord Strathclyde.

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Hear, hear!

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My Lords, this debate goes to the heart

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of what we believe we are here to do, what we are for.

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It goes to the heart of the relationship that we have between

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this House and the House of Commons.

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'He's using it,

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'trying to pretend that he's concerned about the primacy

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'of the House of Commons.'

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What he's really concerned about and what the Government are

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really concerned about is to stop scrutiny

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and challenging the Executive, challenging the Government.

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The House can always, virtually always,

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defeat the Government and that way chaos lies.

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They're pissed off.

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They want to, you know, basically cart us off,

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lock us up and tell us to shut up

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and that's not how the British system of government works

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and they shouldn't really be trying to get through what

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they're doing now.

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I think that's a very dangerous route for us to go down.

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Hear, hear.

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'It's been a hell of a day.

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'These are serious issues.'

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This is about how we make laws.

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That's why it counts, that's why people get excited about it

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and now the Government will have to think about where it goes next.

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The Lords are now living under a threat.

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Obstruct the Government plans again and they could pay a high price.

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It's February. For a few cold weeks, there's a ceasefire between

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the Government and the Lords.

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And window cleaners prepare to give the palace's 4,000 windows

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their annual scrub.

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Harness, carabiners, descenders,

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everything we need to get the job done.

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And obviously our ropes, as well.

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Weigh quite a bit.

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It's not too windy, it's not too cold

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and it's not raining. That's always a plus.

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Just setting up our ropes.

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Rigging to the structural steel work

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so that we can get over the edge safely.

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The last thing we want is to create an injury

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or, in the worst case, a fatality.

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This back section overlooks the river

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so we'll be abseiling down with life jacket devices

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to ensure if we did get down to the bottom for whatever reason

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and not through the window, which is our planned route,

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we would be OK.

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We've got to watch our foot on like the brickwork and statues,

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the gargoyles and stuff like that.

0:20:410:20:43

You don't want to be breaking those

0:20:430:20:44

because I don't know how much it would cost to replace that.

0:20:440:20:47

It's a very iconic building, you know.

0:20:550:20:59

They wanted it to stand out and it's certainly done the purpose.

0:20:590:21:02

The window cleaning was probably the last thing on their minds.

0:21:020:21:05

It's a good feeling to be able to say

0:21:080:21:09

I've been on the Houses of Parliament.

0:21:090:21:11

The windows are now clean but the future relationship

0:21:210:21:24

between Lords and Commons is less clear.

0:21:240:21:27

It's just two months since the Strathclyde report was debated

0:21:300:21:35

and already the fragile truce between the Government and Lords

0:21:350:21:38

is being put to the test.

0:21:380:21:40

The Government has introduced a bill to reform trade unions,

0:21:410:21:44

making contributions to political parties voluntary.

0:21:440:21:48

It says individual members, not union leaders,

0:21:480:21:51

should decide where their money goes.

0:21:510:21:53

But the move could drastically cut the Labour Party's funding.

0:21:530:21:57

Good morning, My Lady, how are you?

0:21:570:21:58

-Are you OK?

-All good, My Lady.

0:21:580:22:01

'We didn't pick this fight, it's the Government that's picked this fight.

0:22:010:22:04

'So we're absolutely clear that if they've picked the fight,

0:22:040:22:07

'of course we're going to respond and we're going to try everything in

0:22:070:22:10

'our powers to make sure that we tame this bill in some way.'

0:22:100:22:15

As a party whip,

0:22:180:22:19

Baroness Morgan will be trying to get all Labour peers

0:22:190:22:22

to vote against the bill.

0:22:220:22:25

What happens is that every week, all of the Labour group receives

0:22:250:22:28

a whip telling them what's coming up,

0:22:280:22:30

what's going to be debated and whether they need to be here or not.

0:22:300:22:35

One line means, well, you know, if you turn up that would be good.

0:22:350:22:39

Two line, well, it's quite important.

0:22:390:22:41

But three line is, yes, you need to be here.

0:22:410:22:44

This week is a three line plus plus.

0:22:440:22:47

That is, you need to be here

0:22:470:22:49

and you may be in a bit of trouble if you're not.

0:22:490:22:52

To win, Labour will need support

0:22:570:22:59

from other parties and independent peers.

0:22:590:23:03

Lord Tyler is always keen to take on the Government but he wants to be

0:23:030:23:07

armed with the facts.

0:23:070:23:09

He's joined a cross-party committee set up to try and look at the issue

0:23:090:23:13

without party bias.

0:23:130:23:15

'I felt we ought to demonstrate to the Government that this wasn't

0:23:150:23:18

'just a straight Labour-Tory issue.

0:23:180:23:21

'It had significance for everybody in the House of Lords.'

0:23:210:23:26

What the Government appears to be doing

0:23:270:23:29

is trying to attack the Labour Party

0:23:290:23:31

and doing it in a way which is frankly pretty underhand.

0:23:310:23:35

The committee tables an amendment to the bill which would block

0:23:380:23:41

the changes to party funding.

0:23:410:23:43

-That's the way to do it.

-That's very helpful.

-OK.

0:23:430:23:47

Thanks very much.

0:23:470:23:48

Lord Tyler lobbies peers to vote against the Government.

0:23:480:23:52

'The brush past in the corridor is a very important function

0:23:520:23:55

'of this end of the building.'

0:23:550:23:57

Here, give me your card and I'll drop you a note...

0:23:570:24:00

'It can be incredibly useful.'

0:24:000:24:03

You can't overdo this because if you look as if

0:24:030:24:05

you're sort of a perennial plotter,

0:24:050:24:07

a sort of character from the 18th century who spends his or her

0:24:070:24:11

life wandering about this building to try and make sure that everybody

0:24:110:24:15

is onside, it's a bit too well organised.

0:24:150:24:18

But, you know, you bump into people,

0:24:180:24:20

don't you, and when you bump into people that's your opportunity,

0:24:200:24:23

as was the case just a few minutes ago, just here.

0:24:230:24:25

It's a good moment to have a conversation.

0:24:250:24:28

INAUDIBLE CONVERSATION

0:24:300:24:32

The trade union bill is running up against

0:24:350:24:37

the end of the Parliamentary session,

0:24:370:24:39

when all bills must be agreed by both Houses

0:24:390:24:42

or they won't make it into law.

0:24:420:24:44

Message from the Lords!

0:24:450:24:47

When the two Houses begin to disagree,

0:24:480:24:52

and therefore they send back amendments backwards and forwards,

0:24:520:24:56

this process is colloquially known as ping pong.

0:24:560:25:00

I suppose the ping is when it goes back from the House of Lords

0:25:000:25:04

to the House of Commons,

0:25:040:25:05

and the pong is when it comes back

0:25:050:25:07

from the House of Commons to the House of Lords.

0:25:070:25:09

If the Government and the Commons

0:25:100:25:12

chooses to reject the Lords' amendments,

0:25:120:25:14

it risks being timed out and losing the bill.

0:25:140:25:18

Occasionally there's a row, particularly towards the end of the session

0:25:200:25:23

when time is tight between issues

0:25:230:25:25

that the House of Commons want passed

0:25:250:25:28

and because the Government has no majority in the House of Lords,

0:25:280:25:31

it encourages the Opposition to dig their heels in and make life a bit

0:25:310:25:37

more difficult for the Government.

0:25:370:25:39

I'd like to say there is a mutual respect, but sometimes,

0:25:390:25:42

here you are, you see, just a few hundred yards between the two,

0:25:420:25:45

sometimes it's a gulf as big as the Atlantic Ocean.

0:25:450:25:48

Away from the Westminster bubble,

0:25:520:25:54

the refugee crisis in Europe is escalating.

0:25:540:25:57

Lord Dubs's amendment to allow

0:25:570:25:59

refugee children into Britain is part of the ping pong.

0:25:590:26:03

It has passed in the Lords, but been rejected by the Commons.

0:26:030:26:07

I was obviously disappointed that the Commons overturned the amendment.

0:26:110:26:16

I'd hoped for a better outcome.

0:26:160:26:18

It does make me more determined.

0:26:200:26:22

There are no parents or anybody to support them.

0:26:240:26:27

Some of them have been on their own, doing a difficult journey,

0:26:270:26:29

perhaps it's taken them a year or so, so they are pretty vulnerable.

0:26:290:26:33

But, of course, they put a brave face on it.

0:26:330:26:35

All I've argued along is that we should take our share,

0:26:370:26:40

we shouldn't take them all, we can't do that.

0:26:400:26:42

We should take our share of these young people,

0:26:420:26:45

and that's a fairly small thing to ask, really.

0:26:450:26:47

He submitted another amendment,

0:26:490:26:51

which demands some children be allowed in,

0:26:510:26:53

though not the 3,000 he was originally asking for.

0:26:530:26:57

It's a slightly softer amendment,

0:26:570:26:59

but the key principle is still there.

0:26:590:27:01

There are a number of people who feel that we shouldn't vote again on

0:27:030:27:06

an issue which the Commons has overturned.

0:27:060:27:09

But I would argue that there are certain occasions when the issue is

0:27:100:27:14

so important, it is such a matter of principle in humanitarian terms,

0:27:140:27:18

in terms of human rights,

0:27:180:27:20

that it is proper for the Commons to have to think again,

0:27:200:27:24

not just once but more than once.

0:27:240:27:26

Lord West has a very different issue which needs an answer from

0:27:310:27:35

the Government before term ends.

0:27:350:27:38

Hello, have you got a copy of my question on Boaty McBoatface?

0:27:380:27:42

OK, let me have a look.

0:27:420:27:44

A public poll to choose a name for a new polar research ship

0:27:440:27:47

has voted overwhelmingly for the name Boaty McBoatface.

0:27:470:27:52

Ah, lovely, thank you very much indeed.

0:27:520:27:54

Lord West isn't happy about it.

0:27:540:27:56

The question was "to ask Her Majesty's Government

0:27:560:27:59

"in the light of the fact that the Royal research ship being built

0:27:590:28:02

"for the British Antarctic Survey is a ship and not a boat,

0:28:020:28:06

"what is their assessment of the suitability of the name

0:28:060:28:09

"Boaty McBoatface for that vessel?"

0:28:090:28:12

It's all very amusing, and I think you get what you ask for, don't you?

0:28:120:28:15

If you ask the British public to come up with some ideas,

0:28:150:28:18

they come up with very amusing ideas like Boaty McBoatface and Usain Boat

0:28:180:28:22

and Boatimus Prime, all these names that were put in.

0:28:220:28:25

Well, I can call it Shippy McShipface...

0:28:270:28:30

Could be very, very difficult if one said it quickly,

0:28:300:28:33

I think it would be very awkward.

0:28:330:28:35

It is March, and the day of the big vote on party funding in

0:28:430:28:47

the trade union bill.

0:28:470:28:48

Labour Lords will need other rebel Lords to support them if

0:28:480:28:51

they are to defeat the Government.

0:28:510:28:53

Yes, trade union bill today.

0:28:530:28:55

There's obviously a bit more of a buzz in the air.

0:28:550:28:58

I'm well, thank you.

0:28:580:28:59

We've got quite a few of the Lords that don't take part in anything

0:29:010:29:04

in the House, they don't come in if they don't need to,

0:29:040:29:07

but they do have to come in, they say, when there's a division.

0:29:070:29:10

The cafes are fuller, the restaurant,

0:29:100:29:13

the bars are fuller, definitely.

0:29:130:29:15

Going around, you get a feeling very quickly there's a sort of tension.

0:29:260:29:29

People who are normally really friendly and easy-going are a little bit grumpy, that sort of thing.

0:29:290:29:34

There are some of us, like me,

0:29:340:29:35

who are not deeply, deeply political, who,

0:29:350:29:38

you know, we sort of bumble around, but you can certainly feel it.

0:29:380:29:42

-Hello there.

-You're here.

0:29:460:29:48

We need to talk...

0:29:480:29:50

'We've been e-mailing, texting, writing, phoning people,

0:29:500:29:55

'just to make sure that they are here for this really important vote.

0:29:550:30:00

'The biggest problem for us today is making sure they stay,'

0:30:000:30:03

because we're expecting a really late vote today.

0:30:030:30:07

Well, certain people are here that you don't normally see.

0:30:070:30:11

In the old days it used to be Mrs Thatcher, or Lady Thatcher.

0:30:110:30:15

Now, I don't know who...

0:30:150:30:17

Sometimes Lord Mandelson is a bit of a giveaway.

0:30:170:30:21

The doorkeepers are supposed to know every one of the peers by sight.

0:30:260:30:30

I've been here two and a bit years

0:30:300:30:33

and I think I'm on about 80% ish, on a good day.

0:30:330:30:38

But there's always one that you get stuck on.

0:30:380:30:42

Er, no... Baroness, no.

0:30:450:30:46

'But the ones that catch you out

0:30:490:30:51

'are the ones who aren't regular attenders,

0:30:510:30:53

'and you won't see them for months and months and months

0:30:530:30:56

'and then they show up,'

0:30:560:30:58

and you just think, "I have no idea."

0:30:580:31:00

I'm relatively weak, I think, on the crossbenchers, and also the bishops.

0:31:060:31:11

Because...

0:31:130:31:14

..I find that bishops all look very similar.

0:31:160:31:18

Dressing up to go into church is familiar to us,

0:31:230:31:26

so this isn't so peculiar.

0:31:260:31:28

Fortunately now we have allowed mobile phones and other devices

0:31:280:31:32

in the chamber on silent,

0:31:320:31:34

because it's really difficult to read your watch

0:31:340:31:37

with these round your wrists.

0:31:370:31:40

Labour need every vote they can get.

0:31:460:31:48

Their Chief Whip, Lord Bassam,

0:31:490:31:51

is going low-tech to make sure everyone is here.

0:31:510:31:55

Like a school register, yes, but it's a rolling one.

0:31:570:32:00

When you're at school, you do it at nine o'clock,

0:32:000:32:02

or five to nine, I think it was when I was a kid.

0:32:020:32:04

Now they come in during the course of the morning

0:32:040:32:07

and afternoon and they let me know that they're here.

0:32:070:32:10

-Here we are.

-Hello.

-I'm here.

0:32:110:32:14

Ah, fantastic.

0:32:140:32:15

I'm always pleased to see you, and I'm always pleased to see David.

0:32:150:32:19

Very good.

0:32:190:32:21

It's a very simple technique, and it works!

0:32:210:32:24

-OK, cheers.

-Cheers, thanks a lot.

0:32:240:32:27

There are no good excuses.

0:32:290:32:31

You know, people do have to look at their diaries and they do have to

0:32:310:32:34

think about organising their priorities.

0:32:340:32:36

I don't think it's an unreasonable expectation

0:32:360:32:38

to hope that they can be here

0:32:380:32:39

when pretty much the future of the Labour Party's at stake.

0:32:390:32:42

INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS

0:32:440:32:46

It's amazing what nooks and crannies of this funny building,

0:32:510:32:54

that you sometimes find yourself in having a conversation.

0:32:540:32:57

I won't tell you where I was earlier this morning...

0:32:570:33:00

It was the sort of place that only male peers would be allowed to go,

0:33:000:33:04

but we had a very useful conversation there.

0:33:040:33:07

-Hiya.

-Have you seen Anita?

0:33:070:33:09

I haven't seen Anita.

0:33:090:33:11

Right, so who've I got left?

0:33:110:33:13

Anita, Una is not in yet.

0:33:130:33:16

Right, we're all done.

0:33:160:33:18

We need to keep them here now, that's the challenge, isn't it?

0:33:180:33:21

-That's always the challenge.

-Yes, we'll see how it goes.

0:33:210:33:24

-I think we're doing OK, though.

-Very good.

-Right, see you later.

0:33:240:33:28

There is a tendency, amongst some members,

0:33:300:33:32

to approach the whole issue of voting and division not with head or heart,

0:33:320:33:36

but with stomach.

0:33:360:33:38

If the stomach is rumbling

0:33:380:33:39

and people think they'd like to get away for supper,

0:33:390:33:41

it's very difficult to keep them here for a big vote.

0:33:410:33:45

So what have we got here?

0:33:470:33:49

We've got sirloin of beef, scallops, cured pigeon,

0:33:490:33:54

mustard macaroon.

0:33:540:33:55

Pulled ham hock...

0:33:560:33:58

Very nice.

0:33:580:33:59

Smoked salmon, my favourite.

0:33:590:34:01

Potted brown shrimps and sourdough.

0:34:010:34:05

Sounds like they do well, doesn't it, really?

0:34:050:34:07

Hello, darling.

0:34:110:34:12

Oh, do you remember where Mummy said I was going to be this evening,

0:34:120:34:16

can you remember? We were talking about it.

0:34:160:34:19

Yes, that's right, sweetie, yeah, Big Ben and Parliament.

0:34:190:34:23

Well done, darling.

0:34:230:34:24

Bye, bye, bye.

0:34:240:34:26

There's definitely a reason to be here,

0:34:270:34:30

but sometimes you're literally just waiting and waiting and waiting,

0:34:300:34:33

and then when the vote doesn't happen, you want to die.

0:34:330:34:36

I do wish to test the opinion of the House.

0:34:390:34:42

Hear, hear.

0:34:420:34:43

My Lords, as many are of that opinion will say content.

0:34:430:34:46

-Content.

-To the contrary, not content.

0:34:460:34:49

Not content.

0:34:490:34:51

Clear the bar.

0:34:510:34:52

Just after six, the vote is called.

0:34:520:34:55

The result will show whether rebellious Lords are still prepared

0:34:550:34:59

to stand up to the Government.

0:34:590:35:01

-Division.

-Division!

-Division!

0:35:010:35:04

BELL RINGS

0:35:040:35:05

Sorry! Thank you.

0:35:150:35:16

The Government have got a strong whip on,

0:35:240:35:26

and I think they will have somewhere in the region of 210 people here.

0:35:260:35:31

But, of course, they've all got to vote for the Government.

0:35:340:35:37

Not all of them will, hopefully.

0:35:370:35:38

It's not just whether we win or not, it's by how many we win,

0:35:400:35:45

because the bigger the victory here in the House of Lords,

0:35:450:35:48

then the more pressure we can put on the Government.

0:35:480:35:51

Supporters of the cross-party amendment flood through the content lobby.

0:35:510:35:56

On the Government side, there are some notable absences.

0:36:020:36:06

Rather than vote against the Government, I said I'll be absent,

0:36:080:36:12

so I'm going to take my wife out for dinner.

0:36:120:36:14

Conservative Lord Cormack is going a step further and is voting against

0:36:180:36:22

the Government.

0:36:220:36:23

Nice to see a Tory face, excellent, thank you very much.

0:36:250:36:28

How does it feel walking through that other lobby?

0:36:320:36:35

Well, I've done it before.

0:36:350:36:36

I've done it before, both in this House and the other one.

0:36:360:36:40

If you believe something

0:36:400:36:43

is very important, and you're going to stand up for it,

0:36:430:36:45

then you have to put your vote with your voice.

0:36:450:36:49

My Lords, there have voted

0:37:020:37:05

contents 320,

0:37:050:37:09

not contents 172, therefore the contents have it.

0:37:090:37:14

Hear, hear!

0:37:140:37:15

-Good?

-Very good.

0:37:240:37:25

It's good when you win,

0:37:270:37:28

but to win on something as important as this to the trade union member

0:37:280:37:32

and the Labour Party is phenomenal.

0:37:320:37:35

It really takes you into a different place.

0:37:350:37:38

Result. Utterly demoralised, that's the way we like it.

0:37:380:37:41

Great news.

0:37:410:37:43

I think it is the biggest margin since the election, yes.

0:37:430:37:47

But I take no delight in that.

0:37:470:37:50

I mean,

0:37:500:37:52

I did what I thought I had to do.

0:37:520:37:54

The amended bill will now go back to the Commons.

0:37:560:38:00

I am very happy, but then, you know,

0:38:000:38:02

until you've actually got Royal assent,

0:38:020:38:06

complete change to a bill like this,

0:38:060:38:09

at the very end of the process,

0:38:090:38:11

you can't start cheering and raising a glass in celebration.

0:38:110:38:15

Hello, My Lady.

0:38:240:38:26

-Morning, Ma'am.

-Morning.

0:38:290:38:31

-Thank you.

-Have a good day.

-You too.

-Thank you.

0:38:310:38:34

'The Lords do say that when I'm in a red coat, the summer's here,

0:38:360:38:38

'and they also blame me'

0:38:380:38:40

for when it's raining, which isn't right, but that's the way it goes here.

0:38:400:38:43

The red coat, though, is only a summer coat, so, as you can see,

0:38:430:38:46

it is quite thin. During the winter I have a black woollen coat.

0:38:460:38:49

Hello. However,

0:38:490:38:50

some of the Lords have said that I should have a red woollen coat.

0:38:500:38:53

They've approached Black Rod, he said no.

0:38:530:38:56

Hello.

0:38:560:38:59

One of the Lords also said I should have some for shorts for the summer.

0:38:590:39:02

That's not happening either, not with my legs!

0:39:020:39:05

It's late April, and the game of Parliamentary ping pong in which

0:39:160:39:19

bills bounce between Commons and Lords is about to begin in earnest.

0:39:190:39:23

The Lords' amendment to the trade union bill has been agreed by

0:39:250:39:28

the Government and the Labour Party's funding is protected.

0:39:280:39:32

But it looks like the immigration bill, and Lord Dubs's amendment,

0:39:350:39:38

will go right to the wire.

0:39:380:39:40

In these last days of a session,

0:39:430:39:45

the atmosphere gets slightly more... charged.

0:39:450:39:50

I've called it more poker than ping pong.

0:39:550:39:58

It's a mixture, I think, of politics and tactics and timing.

0:40:000:40:03

PHONE RINGS

0:40:160:40:18

Hello? It's Alf Dubs here.

0:40:180:40:20

When?

0:40:200:40:22

PHONE RINGS

0:40:220:40:24

Hello?

0:40:240:40:25

83-year-old Lord Dubs's amendment on child refugees has sparked a national debate.

0:40:250:40:30

..committee's there...

0:40:300:40:32

PHONE RINGS

0:40:320:40:34

What time would suit you?

0:40:340:40:36

PHONE RINGS

0:40:360:40:37

Ten o'clock at the peers' entrance, yes.

0:40:370:40:40

PHONE RINGS

0:40:400:40:41

I had an invitation for the 22nd, 23rd and 24th.

0:40:410:40:44

..OK, bye-bye.

0:40:480:40:51

Oh, God.

0:40:540:40:55

-What's that?

-It's just an interview for Channel 5, Channel 5 News.

0:40:550:41:02

Oh, dear.

0:41:020:41:03

PHONE RINGS

0:41:030:41:05

'It's ridiculous, really.

0:41:070:41:08

'I want a quiet life.

0:41:080:41:09

'It's difficult to say no,

0:41:130:41:14

'because it helps put pressure on the Government to have more'

0:41:140:41:18

sympathetic coverage in the media, so I suppose it's worth doing,

0:41:180:41:21

but it's got a bit out of hand.

0:41:210:41:22

PHONE RINGS

0:41:270:41:29

Judging by the number of messages I've had from people I've never met

0:41:290:41:32

before, in terms of public opinion, my sense is it's pretty popular.

0:41:320:41:36

I think the public support for this, I hope,

0:41:360:41:38

will help to make the Government think again.

0:41:380:41:40

It's not just in the palace that Lords and Commons are at loggerheads.

0:41:420:41:47

MPs and Lords are limbering up for the annual Parliamentary boat race.

0:41:470:41:51

I'm looking forward to it.

0:41:520:41:54

It is the one event that the Lords has the edge on the Commons.

0:41:540:41:58

Having a captain as youthful

0:41:580:42:00

as ours, in Lord Taylor, who's in his 70s.

0:42:000:42:03

We have trained.

0:42:040:42:05

I know the Lords have been out and they managed to swamp

0:42:050:42:08

their boat.

0:42:080:42:09

We've had some quite eventful times, you may have heard,

0:42:110:42:13

where the Commons' boat sunk and we haven't sunk yet,

0:42:130:42:16

but I don't want to be too optimistic.

0:42:160:42:20

Always like to try and make sure that those democratically elected

0:42:220:42:25

come out on top.

0:42:250:42:26

I think we've got some very fit and active people,

0:42:260:42:29

so we're very hopeful.

0:42:290:42:31

In the Commons they say something like

0:42:330:42:35

that bunch of superannuated silly

0:42:350:42:36

old idiots who've gone up there, let's forget about them.

0:42:360:42:39

And then that adds to the tension.

0:42:390:42:41

It's thoroughly good to thrash the other place in everything that one does.

0:42:420:42:46

Previously, the Commons have won five races to the Lords' four.

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But the Lords are hopeful that this year they will draw even.

0:42:530:42:56

OK, both crews. Please make yourselves ready to race.

0:42:560:43:01

They're taking their bloody time, aren't they?

0:43:010:43:04

Attention. Go!

0:43:060:43:08

Come on, the Lords!

0:43:110:43:13

The Commons' boat sort of seem to be striking quite well.

0:43:170:43:19

There's a bit of a horlicks in the Lords boat, it looks like it.

0:43:190:43:22

We seem to have one oar that's not working at all in the Lords boat,

0:43:220:43:25

for some obscure reason.

0:43:250:43:27

Come on, the Lords!

0:43:270:43:30

It looks to me as though the Commons are slightly ahead,

0:43:300:43:32

I hope they didn't cheat at the start.

0:43:320:43:34

Oh, dear. Well, I'm afraid the Commons have won it,

0:43:340:43:37

that's one of those things. I think we had a broken rod.

0:43:370:43:41

They probably sabotaged our boat.

0:43:410:43:43

But not all is lost for Lord West.

0:43:480:43:52

The Government has overruled the public vote.

0:43:520:43:55

Boaty McBoatface has been sunk and will instead be called

0:43:550:43:59

the RRS Sir David Attenborough.

0:43:590:44:02

I'm delighted now they've come down with a name that's sort of acceptable.

0:44:020:44:06

I mean, normally ships are named after people who are dead,

0:44:060:44:09

not always, and I hope they're not sort of making any judgments about

0:44:090:44:14

how long he'll live for.

0:44:140:44:15

The decisions have to be made in the other place,

0:44:150:44:18

in the Commons, obviously.

0:44:180:44:19

That's absolutely right, because they're voted and we're not.

0:44:190:44:22

But at least we're able to get things moving and make people think about these problems.

0:44:220:44:25

Lift your left arm.

0:44:250:44:27

Left arm...

0:44:270:44:29

It's like playing in Mum's dressing up box, isn't it?

0:44:310:44:33

Yeah.

0:44:330:44:34

The final Acts of Parliament will be signed into law in a ceremony

0:44:340:44:38

at the end of the session.

0:44:380:44:39

But first, the House of Lords' top brass must rehearse.

0:44:410:44:45

The actual ceremony is very quick and easy.

0:44:450:44:48

It's a bit of a faff to set up.

0:44:480:44:51

That's the front, is it?

0:44:510:44:53

-That way?

-It's just like putting a dressing gown on, really.

0:44:530:44:56

But slightly posh, with gold bits.

0:44:590:45:03

This is Lord Laming's old one, my lord.

0:45:030:45:05

Would you like to try that?

0:45:050:45:07

Is there a back and a front?

0:45:070:45:09

It doesn't really matter, does it?

0:45:090:45:11

I think that's fine. That's perfectly comfortable.

0:45:110:45:14

Do you want to pretend you're reading?

0:45:140:45:17

We don't want to read, we just need to make sure...

0:45:170:45:19

The Clerk of the Crown will read out

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the short titles of the act,

0:45:210:45:23

and I in each case turn to the Commons and say

0:45:230:45:26

in a good loud voice, "La Reine le veult."

0:45:260:45:29

'La Reine le veult is simply Norman French for the Queen wishes it.'

0:45:290:45:34

La Reine le veult.

0:45:340:45:36

Does anyone actually speak Norman French any more, apart from us?

0:45:360:45:39

House of Commons Members' Fund Act.

0:45:420:45:45

I've done it many times.

0:45:510:45:53

As long as it's properly coordinated and done in an appropriate way,

0:45:530:45:57

choreographed, then I think it's always good fun.

0:45:570:45:59

The trick is getting the timing right, but really,

0:46:010:46:03

I mean, how difficult can all nodding at the same time or doing that be?

0:46:030:46:07

Sorry, sorry.

0:46:070:46:10

Try that one again, sorry!

0:46:110:46:13

The first time you were a little bit slow,

0:46:150:46:17

a little bit late and a little bit slow.

0:46:170:46:20

-Don't worry, David.

-We jumped the gun!

0:46:200:46:22

The system here's working well.

0:46:220:46:25

I jumped the gun.

0:46:250:46:26

'I saw them practising this morning,'

0:46:290:46:31

I said to them they reminded me of Gilbert and Sullivan,

0:46:310:46:34

and we don't want that kind of image.

0:46:340:46:36

The second chamber should be looking at how we deal with legislation in

0:46:360:46:40

a proper, effective manner,

0:46:400:46:42

and this kind of thing distracts from it.

0:46:420:46:45

With just days to go before the end of the session,

0:46:550:46:57

Lord Dubs is about to make his case to the Lords a second time.

0:46:570:47:01

Basically, it will leave unaccompanied child refugees

0:47:010:47:05

in a vulnerable position.

0:47:050:47:07

None of us would want our own children to be subject to that

0:47:070:47:10

sort of environment.

0:47:100:47:12

I've been astonished at the amount of popular support there's been,

0:47:120:47:16

and as a country with strong humanitarian traditions

0:47:160:47:20

I believe we can do better. I beg to move.

0:47:200:47:24

Hear, hear!

0:47:240:47:25

Peers must now vote on whether, yet again,

0:47:320:47:34

they will defy the Government

0:47:340:47:36

and bat the amendment back to the Commons.

0:47:360:47:38

BELL RINGS

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We do not have the right, in my view, as unelected people,

0:47:430:47:48

to overrule the Commons. They're the elected ones,

0:47:480:47:51

they have the final say and they should always have the final say.

0:47:510:47:54

There comes a time when you have to say, thus far, no further,

0:47:570:48:02

and the body that has to drop the bat

0:48:020:48:07

at the end of the ping pong is the House of Lords.

0:48:070:48:10

There is a degree of doubt as to how far either side is going to take the

0:48:140:48:18

game of poker.

0:48:180:48:19

'I'm not good at predicting these things,

0:48:230:48:25

'but if one believes in something, I think one should go on pushing it,

0:48:250:48:28

'because all my experience of politics is that if you have

0:48:280:48:31

'an issue that's worth it and you keep pushing it,'

0:48:310:48:33

quite often in the end something positive will happen as a result.

0:48:330:48:37

I'm going to be really honest that I can't quite tell you how it's

0:48:430:48:45

looking, even though I've just come out of the voting lobby.

0:48:450:48:49

There aren't as many as sometimes when we win by a lot.

0:48:490:48:52

It's also later in the evening

0:48:520:48:54

and they kind of drop off the later it goes.

0:48:540:48:57

My Lords, there have voted

0:49:040:49:08

contents 279, not contents 172.

0:49:080:49:12

So the contents have it.

0:49:120:49:14

We just won, we just won.

0:49:240:49:25

That is great, see, House of Lords, rocking.

0:49:250:49:29

-Speech!

-APPLAUSE

0:49:290:49:32

Speech!

0:49:430:49:45

HUBBUB OF CONVERSATION

0:49:450:49:47

'I'm gratified and delighted that there was such support.

0:49:560:49:59

'I think the Government will have a job to dig themselves out of this.'

0:49:590:50:03

So I think we may get something, we may win something.

0:50:030:50:06

Something, I hope.

0:50:060:50:08

Just a few days before the end of the session,

0:50:150:50:19

Lord Dubs gets some news.

0:50:190:50:20

I haven't come to terms with it yet, you know.

0:50:200:50:23

It's only just happened.

0:50:230:50:25

I still can't quite believe it, to be honest.

0:50:250:50:29

His amendment has been accepted by the Prime Minister.

0:50:290:50:31

-Congratulations.

-We've won, yes.

-Yeah, well, that's very impressive.

0:50:310:50:34

I watched Prime Minister's Questions. I just mentioned it to some colleagues.

0:50:340:50:37

-Oh, that's good.

-You must be delighted.

0:50:370:50:39

I'm delighted. I'm absolutely delighted, yes.

0:50:390:50:42

Well, your place in heaven is now secure.

0:50:420:50:44

My place in heaven! Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

0:50:440:50:48

-Will you be joining me?

-Well, I'll try.

0:50:480:50:50

-Just coming back. I came back last night.

-Oh, wow.

0:50:550:50:58

I was in the refugee camps.

0:50:580:50:59

Met the kids. And, you know, fantastic.

0:50:590:51:02

-People are talking about what you're doing here, and...

-Oh, well.

0:51:020:51:05

-It's wonderful, well done.

-Oh, well, thank you very much.

0:51:050:51:07

-Fantastic.

-Well, look, it's only a small amendment.

0:51:070:51:09

-But we're moving them.

-Yeah, OK.

-In the right direction.

0:51:090:51:12

Thanks.

0:51:120:51:14

Lord Dubs, are you pleased that the Prime Minister's finally moved,

0:51:160:51:20

or are you disappointed that he had to be brought to this position

0:51:200:51:23

kicking and screaming?

0:51:230:51:24

Well, the outcome is what matters,

0:51:240:51:26

and the outcome is that a lot of,

0:51:260:51:28

or a number of vulnerable unaccompanied child refugees

0:51:280:51:31

in Europe will find safety and a decent home in Britain.

0:51:310:51:34

That's what matters.

0:51:340:51:35

I'm going to disappear into anonymity after all this.

0:51:400:51:44

I can't sustain... Can't sustain this level of excitement, you know?

0:51:440:51:50

Can't do it! So a bit of quiet anonymity would do me good.

0:51:500:51:54

But Lord Dubs' rest is short-lived.

0:52:000:52:03

Only about 350 unaccompanied children would be allowed in before

0:52:030:52:06

the Government shut the door again.

0:52:060:52:08

He's fighting the decision.

0:52:100:52:12

It is now the end of the session.

0:52:180:52:21

INDISTINCT SHOUT

0:52:240:52:26

'Well, there've been some tense moments in the last few weeks.'

0:52:280:52:32

There have never been so many Government defeats

0:52:320:52:36

in the modern era.

0:52:360:52:37

It's unusual, and it's unprecedented.

0:52:370:52:40

Although the Lords has challenged

0:52:400:52:42

the Government robustly with amendments

0:52:420:52:44

that have left their mark,

0:52:440:52:45

all Government bills have been passed into law.

0:52:450:52:49

At times, I've felt we were getting very near the edge of that dividing

0:52:490:52:53

line between complementary and trashing the Government's business.

0:52:530:52:58

I think we've now ended up on the right side of that line,

0:52:580:53:02

and that's a very good thing.

0:53:020:53:04

Members of the Commons are now summoned to the Lords,

0:53:070:53:09

where the bills are formally agreed.

0:53:090:53:13

Immigration Act.

0:53:130:53:15

La Reine le veult.

0:53:170:53:18

Energy Act.

0:53:200:53:21

La Reine le veult.

0:53:230:53:25

The battle between the two Houses has reached a delicate truce.

0:53:270:53:31

But the threat of Lord Strathclyde's review

0:53:310:53:34

will still hang over the Lords when the new term starts.

0:53:340:53:37

They just need to learn the lessons from this session,

0:53:380:53:41

do the scrutiny which the House of Lords is so good at

0:53:410:53:45

and the revision,

0:53:450:53:46

but not necessarily to be a block to the will of the elected House.

0:53:460:53:50

It's May. And the countdown has started to the Queen's Speech,

0:53:550:53:59

when the monarch comes to Parliament to open a new session.

0:53:590:54:03

Everyone wants a seat.

0:54:030:54:05

And the exploding size of the House, now with over 800 members,

0:54:050:54:09

becomes impossible to ignore.

0:54:090:54:11

It's just luck of the draw, exactly that, the draw.

0:54:110:54:15

Here we are at Black Rod's office.

0:54:150:54:18

Nicola looks after me very well,

0:54:180:54:20

but she's completely fair about the draw,

0:54:200:54:22

which is really irksome.

0:54:220:54:23

So no matter how much I butter her up, it doesn't make any difference.

0:54:230:54:26

The good news is that your daughter

0:54:260:54:28

was successful in the eldest daughter's ballot

0:54:280:54:30

in the chamber, so she'll have a standing place.

0:54:300:54:32

-Lovely.

-You weren't successful in the robe ballot, I'm afraid.

0:54:320:54:35

No, I never am. So I'm going to have to pay for that.

0:54:350:54:37

So that's it, sell another grandchild.

0:54:370:54:40

Staff have just a week to turn

0:54:430:54:44

the palace from a place of work to a stage set.

0:54:440:54:47

She's coming.

0:54:470:54:49

The Queen. Elizabeth.

0:54:500:54:52

Ma'am!

0:54:540:54:55

-What's this?

-That's where the...

0:54:570:54:59

The thing goes on top of it.

0:54:590:55:01

-What thing?

-Like, a big sword thing.

0:55:010:55:04

This time of year, everyone sort of comes together,

0:55:060:55:09

and sort of like mucks in.

0:55:090:55:11

You've got to get it done on time.

0:55:130:55:15

Have you got the black paint?

0:55:200:55:22

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

0:55:220:55:24

No-one can change the date.

0:55:240:55:26

We know when the Queen's coming.

0:55:260:55:28

Little room for manoeuvre on this one.

0:55:280:55:31

We can't ask her to go around the block a couple of times

0:55:310:55:34

while we're not ready.

0:55:340:55:35

The Queen's representative in Parliament, Black Rod,

0:55:380:55:42

will be the master of ceremonies.

0:55:420:55:43

Everybody's very motivated.

0:55:430:55:46

All our people who've got a hand in this really want it to be tiptop.

0:55:460:55:50

Nobody wants to be picked up on the Black Rod's inspection

0:55:500:55:53

for having not done something.

0:55:530:55:54

Good morning, sir, how are you?

0:55:540:55:57

It doesn't need power washing,

0:55:590:56:01

just someone with a bucket and brush

0:56:010:56:03

just to get the blobs of bird shit away.

0:56:030:56:05

We normally leave him something to find, to be honest with you.

0:56:070:56:10

Because as soon as he's found something, he normally moves on to the next room.

0:56:100:56:13

He's a stickler for the smallest of detail,

0:56:130:56:15

like if there's a screw that we've left on a carpet somewhere,

0:56:150:56:18

he'll actually see it from a distance.

0:56:180:56:20

I'm not sure if he brings the screws up himself

0:56:200:56:22

and leaves them lying about

0:56:220:56:24

so he can pick them up, but he's quite funny like that.

0:56:240:56:26

And straight lines, we have to have straight lines everywhere.

0:56:260:56:30

Ex-military, what do you expect?

0:56:300:56:32

From her throne in the Lords, the Queen will announce

0:56:370:56:39

the Government's plans for the coming year.

0:56:390:56:43

Some expect House of Lords reform to be on the agenda.

0:56:430:56:46

Should there be an age limit when they have to retire?

0:56:490:56:51

Should there be a certain amount of time that they spend in here?

0:56:510:56:54

They say there's too many,

0:56:540:56:56

but how do you govern what numbers we have in the House?

0:56:560:56:59

I have some ideas, but they're probably best kept to myself.

0:57:000:57:03

Hello, Sir.

0:57:030:57:04

-Have a good day, My Lord.

-Thank you.

0:57:060:57:08

Next time - the Queen comes to Parliament.

0:57:100:57:13

I am going to get out of my trainers.

0:57:130:57:15

-Eventually.

-That's my concession for Her Majesty.

0:57:150:57:18

But the Palace looks like it's crumbling down.

0:57:190:57:22

We're running out of buckets.

0:57:220:57:24

Almost every area of the parliamentary estate has had

0:57:250:57:29

some type of water damage today.

0:57:290:57:31

And Brexit hits the Lords with a bang.

0:57:310:57:35

This is much bigger than anything

0:57:350:57:37

I've encountered during my political lifetime.

0:57:370:57:41

It will open up a firestorm of resentment in the country.

0:57:410:57:44

As many of that opinion would say content.

0:57:440:57:47

Content.

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0:57:500:57:53

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