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So much of our rugby is familiar, close to home. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
Grand Slams in the Five Nations, the Six Nations. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
Grand days out in places we know. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
But the finest contribution ever by Welsh rugby | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
was made in an alien environment, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
about as far from home as you can go. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
Every three or four years since 1888, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
the best players of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales - | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
what we now call the British and Irish Lions - | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
have been going on tour to the major rugby-playing countries of the southern hemisphere... | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
New Zealand, Australia and South Africa. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
The Lions have won six times in Australia, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
four in South Africa, with a drawn series in 1955, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
but in New Zealand, only the once. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
40 years ago, rugby tours were long. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
The '71 tour would last from May to August - | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
15 weeks, 26 games in total. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
Compare that with the Lions of 2009 - six weeks, ten games. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:35 | |
For me, Hong Kong is the one and only pause, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
but flying to New Zealand is still a slog through the time zones. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
40 years ago, the Lions' BOAC Boeing 707 | 0:02:47 | 0:02:52 | |
stopped at Frankfurt, Rome, Tehran, Delhi and here, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
and from here to Brisbane, Sydney, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
and from Australia to New Zealand. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
They played two games in Australia, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
the first in Brisbane against Queensland. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
They lost, prompting Queensland coach Des Connor | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
to describe them as "the worst Lions ever". | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
They beat New South Wales in Sydney, but nobody in New Zealand thought | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
there would be anything but a routine series win for the All Blacks. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
I've been coming here for nearly 30 years | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
and in all that time, I've seen the All Blacks lose once - | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
one single game - | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
and even then, in 1993, they went on to win the series. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
Touring New Zealand is an exercise in being crushed - | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
every time, bar one. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
Rugby in 1971 was red. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
BILL McLAREN: Edwards. Barry John. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
Nicely along from Hall to John Dawes. This is Bevan inside Steel. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
Beautifully tackled by Rea. Kicked on by John Taylor. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
Booted on by Barry John. Can John make it? | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
This would be a remarkable score! | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
Delme Thomas again. Edwards to Barry John. Out to John Dawes. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:18 | |
John Williams, Gerald Davies. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
Can Ian Smith get him? It's Gerald Davies for Wales! | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
Wales had won the Grand Slam in the Five Nations championship that year, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
and now they supplied - for the first time - | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
the captain of the Lions, John Dawes. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
They also supplied the coach, Carwyn James, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
who was not the coach of his country and never would be. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
Complex Carwyn, often troubled in life, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
brought simplicity to rugby. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
His weapon of choice...the brain. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Think about it. That's the important thing. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
Every single one of you, think about it, think about it, think about it. It's a thinking game. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
The coach of Llanelli sifted his way through the Welsh team. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
He carefully researched the best of the rest of Britain and Ireland. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
Mike Gibson, Ray McLaughlin and Willie John McBride of Ireland. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
John Pullin and David Duckham of England. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
Sandy Carmichael and Ian "Mighty Mouse" McLauchlan of Scotland. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
New Zealand gave them no chance - but inside the mind of the coach, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
thoughts were spinning, ideas were forming. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
He was putting his Lions together, quietly. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
A different kettle of fish | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
to any coach I'd ever met in my life before, cos, you know, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
coaching was the bawling, snarling scenario. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
But not Carwyn. He was very quiet and... | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
just very precise and accurate. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
Eyes on the ball, John. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
Well, Carwyn was really an amateur psychologist. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
Not only was he a great coach - he treated every player individually. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
I was very physical in our training, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
and I was banned from training on Mondays. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
So the weekends, for me, were great. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
People like Derek Quinnell and Chico Hopkins had to train twice a day - | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
they were lazy and perhaps not as fit as they should be. He did treat every player as an individual. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
I think Carwyn would have done a lot of homework. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
I can't remember who was manager of Man United at the time - | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
I think it might have been Sexton or O'Farrell. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
And I know he went up there for a couple of days, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
just to watch what it was like to deal with players - | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
professional players - because you must... | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
Although we weren't professional players, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
to all intents and purposes, we were for that three months. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
GERALD DAVIES: We needed to play a 15-a-side game | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
that each individual player had a contribution to make to the whole. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
We knew where New Zealand's strengths lay. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
We knew the kind of patterned play that New Zealand had - | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
and it was very much a pattern. Er... | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
There was no real pattern to us - our game - I don't think, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
other than to win the ball and to do the best we could with it | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
by running in attack against New Zealand. That was the plan. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
That was the way that we believed as individual players, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
as a group of players, how to play the game. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
It's hard to say why it has always been so difficult to win here. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
Perhaps New Zealand plays tricks. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
Stunning New Zealand, full of sights and sounds | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
and smells that are totally alien. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
It's beautiful, but it's also a country full of menace and danger. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:41 | |
Fall in there and you're dead. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
And their rugby's a bit like that. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
CHEERING | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
New Zealand were the kings. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
And they thought their forwards were...the cream. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -Pretty useful wheel, that, by New Zealand. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
And here's the real power stuff. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
Never worry about coming second to a pack they were facing, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
and that's their mentality. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
The philosophy in New Zealand was they were always better than us | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
and that, possibly, they were much more physical than we were. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
I mean, they had a plethora of tremendous players. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
Kirkpatrick was a fantastic player. Alex Wyllie was a fantastic player. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:39 | |
Sutherland was a great, great player - number eight - | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
and, er...Meads. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -..by Colin Meads. The referee waving "play on". | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
And it's out. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
That's what makes you want to play the game - | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
it's standing up to the best, or what you consider to be the best, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
and, certainly, New Zealand's reputation was such that, er... at the time they certainly were. | 0:08:55 | 0:09:01 | |
CHEERING | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -He's over. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
Rugby Union was invented in England, for young gentlemen. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
A chap called Charles Monroe brought rugby here | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
when he returned from his English public school. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
But soon, it was working New Zealanders who were playing. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
Here, they loved the sport invented for gentlemen, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
hated the amateurism designed to keep them out. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
They toed the amateur line because in such geographical isolation, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
there was a reluctance to break sporting links. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
But those ties could be a little strained. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
In Te Kuiti, King Country, where Colin Meads played his rugby - | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
he was an All Black for 14 seasons - | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
they would have been aware that over in England, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
there was a rugby establishment that was ever so slightly suspicious | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
of the likes of Colin Meads playing their game. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
Not a gentlemen. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
And rough, tough Meads set about the representatives of that old establishment with relish. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:12 | |
Some of our rugby, in those days, was just "win at all costs", | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
and test matches and whichever you thought you could do, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
whatever way you thought you could do it. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -And it's getting like the old maul in goal in there. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
Colin Meads trying to sort it out, but Willie John McBride, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
Tom Lister, Sean Lynch... | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
This is an absolute tragedy. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
You WERE the enforcer. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Well, that's what they say, but not... | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
You know, I was just one of them. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
Well, no, I mean, you didn't just go out there | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
to hit somebody for the sake of hitting them. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
You go and play the game, but if you jersey-pulled me, you'd get an elbow. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
If you did it again it might be, "Do that again and I'll bloody hit you." | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
Yes, there was kicking, punching, gouging, fighting. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
But again, I expected it and, as I said, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
as long as all the players stuck together - | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
all the forwards stuck together - then, OK, we'll take it. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -And this... | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
Not a pleasant sight to see in rugby. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
We're going to show you. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:16 | |
You know, we're the colonials | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
and we're not meant to be good at this game, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
and we'll show you that, you know, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
we can play this game better than you. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
There were ten games to play before the first Test - | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
five on the North Island and five on the South. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
There were interesting sub-plots in these warm-up games for the four Tests. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
The youngest Lion, 20-year old wing John Bevan, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
scoring six tries in his first three games. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
The weather, surprisingly fair. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
The Lions were winning. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
Nothing was going wrong at all, | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
but nothing was going particularly right. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
It was steady, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:04 | |
but nothing was happening to make New Zealand sit up - | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
until they came to game five, their last of stage one on North Island. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:12 | |
They arrived in the capital. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
-GARETH EDWARDS: -Maybe Wellington were being talked about | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
as probably the best side in New Zealand at that time. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
And to this day, it probably ranks as one of the best games | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
that I ever played in. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -Gibson. Here's Dawes. The double round. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
Past Cleeland. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
Williams. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:41 | |
Bevan. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
I just remember the quality of the running. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
The wizardry and the silkiness of the back division, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:54 | |
with Mike Gibson and John Dawes and Barry. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
That really stood out for me. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -No-one seems to want it. This is Slattery. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
Here's a chance. Out to Duckham. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
Must score, I think, if he's got the pace. John. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
We probably averaged about 25, 26. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
And, so, probably just peaking nicely and, obviously, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:18 | |
we hit a bit of luck weather-wise and so on, and everything clicked. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
And you could feel it from the start. You know, marvellous. Great feeling. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
The Lions ran up nearly a half-century of points, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
with Bevan scoring four tries. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -Gibson. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
Bevan. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
Try to Bevan. Marvellous try! | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
You're the most important person in the world. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
You know, make something happen. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
That's the way I felt. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
I've got the ball - something's going to happen here. Show what you can do. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:53 | |
Anything in a different-coloured shirt was the enemy. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -Bevan. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
Davies. Try on here. Pullin. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
That victory was mind-blowing. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
And it really taught, not only New Zealanders, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
but the rest of the world, how rugby could be played. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -There's McBride. There's Carmich, who got the try. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
Look at this ball popping out. There's John, sliding through, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
Gibson, the try. It'll make it 40 points. Around goes Gibson. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
The grand prize in New Zealand's provincial rugby in 1971 | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
was the Ranfurly Shield. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
You won it by challenging the province that held the shield. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
You travelled to their backyard, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:49 | |
and if you beat them you became the holders, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
until a province came to your home and took it from you. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
In late June 1971, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
Canterbury had been beating all challengers for the Log o' Wood, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
as the Ranfurly Shield was called, for nearly two years. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
The Lions couldn't challenge for any provincial trophy, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
but on the Saturday before the First Test, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
they were facing the Ranfurly Shield holders in their backyard. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
The Lions were playing with grace and technical superiority... | 0:15:18 | 0:15:23 | |
but something was about to come crashing at them. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
The nastiest game I've ever seen or witnessed. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
I think the New Zealand coach likened it to the Battle of Passchendaele, I think was the words he used. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
It was horrendous. The ball was irrelevant. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
It was the last game before the test. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
I think the All Blacks knew which 15 were playing. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
There was quite a few of us playing on the day. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
And...I think that, er, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
they wanted to see how tough we were. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
And if we fall by the wayside in the meantime, so be it. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
It wasn't a team thing. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
It was just mentioned as a front row to front row thing, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
or amongst the front row, that they weren't going to let anything happen. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
And I was playing on the side of the scrum at that stage, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
for Canterbury, and I remember one of our players - prop - | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
turning round and saying, "Get your bloody head up, otherwise something might happen." | 0:16:14 | 0:16:19 | |
And next thing, it did happen. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:20 | |
I was just worried about hooking the ball. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
I didn't know anyone was boring in, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
but I think Hoppy thought that Sandy was... | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
trying to get underneath him, and he just said to me, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
"Well, if he continues this, I'm going to have to deal with it." | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
And he told him not to and then, two scrums later, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
he must have done it again and that's where he got one black eye, anyway. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
I don't know where the other one come from. But he... | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
He wasn't a pretty sight, no. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
Sandy Carmichael was out of the tour. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
The other first-choice prop, too. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
Ray McLoughlin, realising what was happening, used - shall I say? - | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
the strength of, er, his hand, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:18 | |
and broke a finger. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
Willie John says it pretty correctly - | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
that he had to be a complete fool hitting Alec Wyllie in the head. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
Yeah, and, ironically, I mean... | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
It might sound a bit funny, but I was going in because I think him and Hamish McDonald | 0:17:30 | 0:17:36 | |
were having a disagreement. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
I went in there to do something and next thing, bang! Ray hit me. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
Hit me, sort of, just under the cheek. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
Opened it up but, in those days, you didn't have to worry about the blood. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
It helped team spirit. It was us against the rest of New Zealand. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:58 | |
OK, there were a few ex-pats living out there, but nevertheless, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
it was a party of 30 and we had to survive in our own little cocoon, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:06 | |
and take on everything that New Zealand could throw at us. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -This is Dawes, to Bevan. He's under... | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
Bevan one yard short. He's in! | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
Also, having survived that kind of physicality, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
New Zealand themselves knew that we were no ordinary team - | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
that we were not going to be a team that knuckled under. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
That we would be a team that would stay the course. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
Ten matches played, ten matches won. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
One battle fought, with the loss of two props. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
Replacements were sent for Stack Stevens of England | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
and Geoff Evans of Wales. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
Now for the first test against the New Zealand All Blacks. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
There was a front row to rebuild, quickly. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
Sean Lynch and Ian McLauchlan would pack down on either side of hooker John Pullin. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
The Lions would still target the All Black scrum. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
But Carwyn James was working on something else. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
The Lions had just met the tough Canterbury fullback Fergie McCormick. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
Carwyn was interested in meeting him again... | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -The long kick for McCormick. An important one. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
McCormick was playing for Canterbury, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
and he was a fullback the following week, from the first test in Dunedin. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
He just said at half time, "Come over and sit next to me," | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
which I did, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
and he just said to me, in Welsh, "Diddorol?" - "Interesting?" - | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
and I said, "Yeah, it is interesting." | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
Nothing was said, but I knew what it meant and it was McCormick. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
And I just looked at McCormick during that game - | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
where his positioning was, where he was likely to be... | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
Looked at his game, basically, for the next week. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
Unfortunately, the following week, he never played for New Zealand again. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
The first test was to be played back in Dunedin, at Carisbrook. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
The crowd would be 45,000 strong, a strange blend of gnarled | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
old workers of the land, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
coming down from the Otago hills, old Gold Rush country, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
mixing with students from the University of Otago. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
Together they trailed out of town through, well, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
not exactly an urban wasteland, but through these scenes of mangling | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
and bending out of shape. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
It's the perfect setting for rugby's original "house of pain". | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
Carisbrook is not the biggest stadium in New Zealand, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
but it is the most raucous, thanks to those "scarfies", | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
the students wearing their scarves. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
Those that paid, they filled those terraces there, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
those that didn't went in their thousands | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
up on to the railway embankment. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
It was announced that the three o'clock express, the Southerner, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
would be slowing down, would whistle as it passed, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
but it would not be stopping. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
'We're quite near to the Antarctic because there's quite | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
'a stiff, southerly blowing for this, the first Test match | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
'which has caused tremendous interest here in New Zealand. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
'More than 50,000 people will pack into the ground. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
'Those people there are standing on Scottish Grandstand. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
'A free view of the Test match.' | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
Went with about six others in a little Mini Minor. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
Christchurch to Dunedin. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
Fabulous time, but you were on the embankment at Carisbrook | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
and shoulder to shoulder with other people. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
It was just amazing to be squashed there, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
trying to peer over other people's shoulders. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
But it was wonderful, wonderful atmosphere. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
You wanted to go there to win against New Zealand. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
That was the aim, the only aim. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
You could have lost all the provincial games, it didn't matter. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
Play the Test matches and beat New Zealand, that was the challenge. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
That was the ultimate goal. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
We knew that we were in for a real battle. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
But we were the All Blacks and we were playing at home, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
so we knew we were in with a shot. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -A switch, John Taylor's switch. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
13 there is wing three-quarter Ken Carrington, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
one of seven new caps in this All Black side. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
Captained for the first time by Colin Meads. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
'I was struggling because I didn't know half the team. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
'First year in the All Blacks, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
'and you don't know whether to give them a roasting or... | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
'I was rather a brutal sort of a captain, put it that way.' | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
This is the mighty Meads himself. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
'I must confess, when I first met Colin Meads, I didn't know how to address him.' | 0:22:30 | 0:22:35 | |
I think I called him "Sir" or something like that. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
"No, mate," he said, "you're my team-mate. Call me pine tree. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -Meads, the big man himself, the mighty Meads. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
'King Meads of New Zealand, he was an awesome figure. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
'Colin was the talisman, there's no doubt, of New Zealand rugby.' | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
Nicely back. Here he is once again, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
the man himself, ten yards short of glory. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
The slip in, Mervyn Davies forced over his own line. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
I was convinced there was more than 15 All Blacks on the field. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
Because all it seemed was we were running from one corner | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
to the other trying to tackle as many people as we could. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
Number 1 prop forward, Brian Muller, 17 stone of him. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
Good deflection at the back. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
This is the new cap Peter Whiting. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
Good attacking stuff from Burgess there. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
It was wave after wave of All Black attacking rugby. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:30 | |
Sweeping up towards the Lions' line. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
Beautifully out on the All Blacks' side. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
Bryan Williams. First run of the game here for Carrington. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:40 | |
Willie John said the night before that they would come at you | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
and they would hit you with everything but the kitchen sink. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
As Lynchy said, 20 minutes into the game, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
I'm sure I saw a kitchen sink flying across the field. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
New Zealand were immense. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
Williams coming up, Bevan coming across, that's Bevan. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
'They look to intimidate, they looked to crush if they can, | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
'and they look to pulverise up front.' | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
Going for the corner, he beats one man. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
He's in. Touch, he's in touch. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
I think what we surprised them with is that we didn't succumb. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
This is the sort of rucking where New Zealanders get good ball. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
That's it, stolen away by Kirkpatrick. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
Kirkpatrick straight through two men. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
'Even when we had pressure on them the first 25 minutes, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
'we couldn't score. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
'If we had scored, it might have broken them, but it didn't happen. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
'They held us out, they tackled us and kept us out. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
'I guess it was a bit of a downer for us.' | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
We were thinking, "We're dominant," but we couldn't put them away. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
And so, psychologically, they came back at us saying, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
"We got a chance here, boys." | 0:24:47 | 0:24:48 | |
It's Willie John McBride opposite Meads. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
Behind Willie John is Sean Lynch and Delme Thomas. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
Hopkins to Barry John. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
John Dawes, that's the big man. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
That's John Bevan. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
Number 8... A chance here - could be a try! | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
It's a try for the Lions by centre forward Ian McLauchlan. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:11 | |
Fantastic try, fantastic. 62 yards. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
Or was it metres? I cant remember. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
Ian McLauchlan of Scotland, the little prop, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
the mighty mouse has done it. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
What a moment for him. 3-nil to the Lions. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:27 | |
You could see the confidence in the Lions growing. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
Barry started getting more possession, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
started controlling the ball, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
and demonstrated one of the finest performances, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
the art of kicking a rugby ball, that I've ever witnessed. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
Nice chip through that by Burgess to Barry John | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
McCormick, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
ten yards from his own line. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
Can I ask about Barry John? | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
Because you played against him, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
it has gone down in legend that he was given the brief to stretch you. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
He certainly stretched me a lot. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
I seemed to be chasing the ball all day and not being able | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
to get my hands on it to do something with it. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
John... | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Beautifully flighted ball. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
McCormick has got to turn. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
Kill him. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
I crossed him all over the place. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
People always thought that with these players, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
put them under pressure. Kick high kicks. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
The up and unders. No. That's the last thing you want to do. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
That means you're playing him into the game, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
and the crowd will be with him. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
The one thing you want to do is keep him quiet, and the crowd quiet. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
So you just drop and trot - all the time. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
It was a bit sticky as well, that particular day, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
so it was easy to drop and shot, move him sideways all over the place. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
In the end, you could see the crowd was getting at him now. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:55 | |
He was the local hero. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:56 | |
That was his home patch, that area. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
Just a simple bit of thinking. Don't do the obvious. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Did some part of you secretly admire that, or were you just cursing him all the way? | 0:27:01 | 0:27:07 | |
Well, you know, you didn't go and kiss him, did you? | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
Well... He was just... | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
Yeah, he did worry me a wee bit. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Perhaps... I didn't verbally curse him, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
I just thought, "That little prick over there. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
"He's kicking another one across to the other side." | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
The Lions, they put chases on the ball also. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
And left you no option either just to kick it straight out | 0:27:28 | 0:27:34 | |
or just be mauled up and tied up a bit. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
Hopkins. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
The boot of Barry John. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
McCormick is there with Davies. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
You have your bad days, I don't think I had that bad a day, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
but, let's be honest, I didn't play for New Zealand again after that. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:54 | |
Back to Barry John, he knows what to do. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
And that's it, the Lions have won the Test match! | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
What a magnificent victory it's been. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
One of the rare moments of rugby history abroad. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
And now this tour is well and truly on the road. What a day. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:15 | |
What a tremendous moment. Nine points to three the score. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:20 | |
We had two from this club going out to represent Great Britain in rugby. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:27 | |
The coach Carwyn and Barry, who really made his name. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
Followed them avidly in the middle of the night. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
We all met here, the team all came here | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
and we listened to it on the radio, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
and it was an amazing feeling to be here. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
It was exactly as if we were out there. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
And Barry's mother would be shouting and giving advice | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
exactly as if she was talking to Barry. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
She knew her rugby. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
We had a long table in those days, | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
and we had laid out a rugby pitch. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
Whenever there was a break, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
they would put pint bottles of a bitter here, perhaps. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
Then pint bottles of mild here, with different colours on them. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
One would be the Lions, the other would be the All Blacks | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
and then they would picture this match on the table. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
And move with the ball. They were there, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
in that particular while, they were there. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
And when they won in the end, of course, the whole place erupted. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:29 | |
THEY ALL CHEER | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
-Great show. -Very good, Barry. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
And many of us crawled back to bed about 6am, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
and believe me, headaches the following day. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:45 | |
There were a lot didn't go back to bed! | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
Remarkably, given that they had won practically no ball, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
the Lions were one up in the four-Test series. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
They set off for three games before the second Test | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
down to Invercargill, up to Taranaki, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
but they were winning and settled. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
It wasn't the very first time the Lions had won | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
the opening Test of a series. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
They had won back in 1930, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
but this time it changed the dynamic of the tour. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
New Zealand realised these Lions were a bit special. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
-We travelled to most of the games. -Really? | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
Gareth Edwards, Barry John, Mike Gibson, John Dawes, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
do they live in the memory still? | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
Oh, yeah. Particularly Mike Gibson. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
Gerald Davies, JPR Williams, | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
the lock from Willie John McBride, the front row. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:06 | |
The front row, unfortunately they went down to Canterbury. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
-There was a bit of a mess there. -It was a mess. -Yes. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
-Things went a bit AWOL. -Canterbury said, wasn't their fault. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
-No! -HE LAUGHS | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
We have always had good scrums, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
so that was taken for granted that we'd get good positions. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
I think they started to play much more aggressively | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
in the backs, in particular. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
There's an adage that the All Blacks remember their defeats more than their victories. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:43 | |
Well, they'd lost. They made changes for the second Test, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
to be played back in Christchurch. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
From places like this, Domett, in North Canterbury there would be a rugby migration | 0:31:48 | 0:31:54 | |
down to Lancaster Park to see if the All Blacks had been stung into action. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:59 | |
A single change was made on the Lions' side. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
The young John Bevan was starting to feel the effects | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
of being away from home so long. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:09 | |
David Duckham came in on the left wing for the second Test. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -On the left, the Lions with their usual kick-off. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:17 | |
The switch straightaway, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:18 | |
Gerald Davies ever alive and alert. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
That's been the pattern of the Lions' play on this tour. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
'As All Blacks were expected to win all the time,' | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
but if we don't, well, get on with it. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
Sid Going. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
Here's John Williams on the halfway line. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
'They started off at great speed, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
'lots of things were happening very quickly.' | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
See how they slip it back. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
That's Sid Going. Mervyn Davies. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
'Sid Going was electrifying, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
'he was dictating the manner in which the game was being played, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:53 | |
'linking up with his back row, creating lots of problems. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
'And he tore us to bits.' | 0:32:57 | 0:32:58 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -Edwards. What a good tackle by Going. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
Do you think Sid Going against Gareth Edwards was | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
one of the great head-to-heads? | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
Sure, yes. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:07 | |
Completely different players in some ways, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
Gareth had that great pass and Barry right back, | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
and Sid wasn't regarded as a great passer, but he was a runner. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:17 | |
His centre of gravity was like this. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:22 | |
He was a dangerous, strong, nuggety runner. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
I would have hated to play against him too often. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
Oh! That was John and Edwards misunderstanding each other. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
'Gareth Edwards was the type of person, if he wasn't in himself' | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
100 per cent fit, he wouldn't perform to his particular level. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:48 | |
Edwards looking blind. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:52 | |
You want to be at your best, you want to be as fit as you can be, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
but when you're carrying injuries and you've got nobody else | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
to play in that position, you have to overcome them. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
That's Edwards. A misunderstanding with John and Edwards there. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:08 | |
The management would also be pressurising you to get back, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:14 | |
wondering whether your injuries were psychological | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
and all that kind of thing which only added to the pressure. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
Sid Going's ball. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:23 | |
Beautiful channelled heel. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
On the blind-side, Burgess. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
He's only one-yard there. What a good score. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
What a brilliant score. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
Bob Burgess scored a couple of tries, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
I think that day, and I was involved in a penalty try. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
35 yards out, this scrum, the Lions drive. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
'I was about to score one and... | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
'Gerald jumped on my back and I carried him | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
'across the ground as the ball hit the turf. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
'The referee went under the bar.' | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
He's getting a penalty try. Let's see it again, what happened. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
'Bryan Williams, I can recall, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
'scored a good try on the blind side. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
'I remember being in the scrum' | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
and Sean Lynch was telling me when I'm butting heads with him, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
"Is that the best sort of scrum you can put down?" | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
I said, "Have a look up, we've just scored." | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
This is constant pressure. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
That's Sid Going. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
Underneath it, the inevitable, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
the brilliant, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:27 | |
the exciting John Williams. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
He's got two outside, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:30 | |
Gibson's with him. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:31 | |
Gibson's got Gerald Davies, can he get there? | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
He's got 25 yards to go! What a run it is. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
He's going under the sticks! | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
Perhaps the vivid image of that Test was the try of | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
Ian Kirkpatrick as he fended off tackler after tackler. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:49 | |
This is where the All Blacks are strong. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
Look at that, Ian Kirkpatrick, the big man. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
He's got 30 yards to go. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
Can Barry John catch him? He can't. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
What a try! | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
Oh, what a wonderful try. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
We were on our way, and I suppose the way they came at me suited me, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
because I delayed fending them. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
When they start to go down and low-ish at you, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
then you've got them. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
You just have to turn round, delay it and push them off. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
I had to change the ball over a couple of times. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
Got a couple from each side. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
It was just pretty lucky for me in that respect. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
What a score by the great man Kirkpatrick. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
What a try. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
6 ft 2 and a half, 16 stone three, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:37 | |
the speed of a stag, what a magnificent try by Kirkpatrick. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
We won reasonably easy, but not without a bloody battle, I might add. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:47 | |
You know, it was just a game that I guess, went our way. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:52 | |
It was a bit like what didn't happen at Dunedin happened at Christchurch. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:57 | |
Things went our way and we got on top of them | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
and managed to keep that margin right through the game. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
On the 25, plenty of time for Cottrell to get that one clear. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
And that's it. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:08 | |
What a great victory it's been for the All Blacks. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:13 | |
I would say, quite honestly, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
that in the losing of | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
the second Test, I felt we had the winning of the series, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
because so many things happened in that second Test, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
I felt, we could improve upon | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
and our counter-attacking game by this time was pretty good. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
Going hovering round, and John looking for the drop ball. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
What a beautiful piece of play, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
that's a great dummy for John Williams. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
'We started playing the type of game | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
'that Carwyn had always said was going to win the series for us. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
'When JPR and Gerald intertwined and ran from deep.' | 0:37:46 | 0:37:51 | |
This is Duckham on the outside. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
What beautiful play. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
'Gerald Davies scored a fabulous try and they had no answer to it.' | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
Can he get it in the corner? What a run! | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
Great score. What a try! | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
'That was the moment we realised we could win the series.' | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
Beautiful play, John Williams has got support on his right. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
I think that was Carwyn's finest moment. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
He said, "Boys, I now know we can win the series." | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
Although you lost, suddenly you were elevated. "That's good. Great." | 0:38:23 | 0:38:31 | |
The sense of optimism in defeat was complemented by victories in the next four provincial matches. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:38 | |
Christchurch was put behind them, forward they went. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
John Williams. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
Bevan. Gibson. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
Williams. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
Arneil. Davies. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
Davies takes it ahead. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
It's a fine try! | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
I don't think they'd seen somebody approach the game, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
not only myself, Mike Gibson, JPR was running from the deep | 0:39:06 | 0:39:11 | |
and things like this, and somebody like Gerald, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
flying down the right, right down to the touchline, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
drop the shoulder, the sidestep, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
and bouncing and accelerating, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
scoring fantastic tries. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
COMMENTATOR: Six yards outside the 25. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
Lions have won it, it's good ruck ball. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
Davies. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:31 | |
One man to beat for a hat-trick. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
'Deep down, to some of us, anyway, we wanted the beautiful tries, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:43 | |
'you know - out to Gerald Davies, Gerald beats two men, links inside, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
'John Taylor comes over there, switches it back, and, you know... | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
'The perfect, glorious try.' | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
COMMENTATOR: They've won the ruck. Dawes, Gibson. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
Davies. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:03 | |
Wonderful rugby! | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
If the tour was immediately back on track, | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
there still had to be a re-think. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
Carwyn James surveyed his options and made changes. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
Gordon Brown, Broon of Troon, came into the second row. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
And to contain Ian Kirkpatrick and Sid Going, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
in came the uncapped Derek Quinnell of Llanelli. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
Meanwhile, in the All Black camp, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
coach Ivan Vodanovich was still letting victory sink in. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:37 | |
Psychologically, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:40 | |
you need to be brought back to Earth that this is another game | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
and another place, and so, hey, flick out of it, it's not going to be easy. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:51 | |
It's got to come from the coach, and we needed drilling, really, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:56 | |
but we never got it. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:57 | |
It wasn't quite Ivan Vodanovich's style. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
Do you think that actually Carwyn James might have out-thought Ivan Vodanovich? | 0:41:00 | 0:41:05 | |
Oh, completely. Carwyn James was a brilliant coach. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
He was a great thinker of the game, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
and before they ever got to New Zealand he always said | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
there was a weak link in the New Zealand team, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
but he wouldn't name him. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
Well, we all thought it was us, you know. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
Every player thought that, and particularly me, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
because I was 35 or 36, and you think, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
"Well, he's over the bloody hill," and that sort of thing. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
So you had all those sort of things going on. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
He was obviously a very smart cookie. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
They were always going to be probing into our weaknesses, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
and they did that well. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
He was no fool, Carwyn James, that's for sure. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
The Lions left the South Island for the last time | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
and crossed the Cook Strait to Wellington, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
where they had played some of their best rugby. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
But that was 15 games ago. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
Now it was the third Test at Athletic Park, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
with the series all-square. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
COMMENTATOR: The third Test between the British Lions and New Zealand, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
the most vital match that any British Lion player will ever play in his life. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:18 | |
Barry John. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
Mike Gibson, Gerald Davies. See the swing of the hips! | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
That was a beautiful run. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
He's on the ten-yard line, that's the half-way line. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
The New Zealand 25. Covering there is Hunter. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
Hunter... Beautiful tackle by John Taylor. Under the posts. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
They must ruck it now. Can they get it? | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
Beautifully back to Barry John, looking for the drop-goal. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
He's done it! | 0:42:45 | 0:42:46 | |
Barry John, consummate, but what about his half-back partner? | 0:42:49 | 0:42:54 | |
Edwards, into the open space. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
The mighty Gareth Edwards had gone off injured in the first Test, | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
had been outplayed in the second. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
By his standards he'd been below par, and we all knew, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
and there's got to be a performance in him. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
I remember talking to him a few days before, "Come on, Gareth, this is the one we want you. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
"You've got to perform now." And he came out unbelievable. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
Taylor, deflection. Edwards. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
He's nearly under the posts, can he get there? | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
To Barry John, and Barry John has scored! What a try! | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
Knowing I was fully fit, ready for it, preparation had gone very well. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:28 | |
I wanted to prove that I could play the game. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:33 | |
He peeled beautifully off the back of the line, | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
ran straight at Bob Burgess, and Bob had long hair, | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
he was a hippy or a freak out in New Zealand cos everybody had short hair. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
And Bob was there, and Bob came at him, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
and Gareth got him with the right hand like that | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
and pushed him clean up, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
and his hair went, and the spray that came out like that... | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
And Barry, of course, had read it perfectly, he was right on my shoulder. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:57 | |
Instead of running away from him, | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
I cut my line across to be alongside him. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
That's all it was then, a little pop pass, and you skated in. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
Edwards handing off Burgess, the strength, the determination, | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
the finesse of John at the end. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
And the third Test, the guys talking in the team room before the game... | 0:44:12 | 0:44:18 | |
Everybody just thought, "This is a cakewalk. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
"We can definitely beat these guys." | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
And then we did, we beat them very easily. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
Five yards now from the All Black line. Can the Lions ruck this ball? | 0:44:27 | 0:44:31 | |
They can. To Edwards. Edwards is going. Davies is there! | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
Gerald Davies has scored a try. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
Brian Lochore's deflection, Sid Going to Wayne Cottrell, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
he's got with him Duncan. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
Joseph on the burst. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:45 | |
Underneath the posts. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
Back beautifully. Mains. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
Joseph couldn't get it, fell over a dog. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
We just didn't play well, we didn't gel. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
The Lions got a sniff again and Barry kept putting it behind us, | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
and we were up against it, all right. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
And it just didn't work for us. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
Sid Going. It's the drive of the Lions, to Barry John. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
The Lions have done it! | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
That's one of the great feats in rugby history | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
as far as British Lions are concerned. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
It's been a day that none of the boys who have played on the field will ever forget, | 0:45:19 | 0:45:24 | |
and what a tremendous climax now the last Test in two weeks' time will be at Auckland. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:29 | |
The series could not be lost. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
The All Blacks had been overturned at the very moment | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
when they were accustomed to taking full control. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
I think in those days we probably | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
hadn't come up against a team like that British Isles team at that stage. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:48 | |
Barry John just carved us up. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
Gosh, we went home in absolute depression | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
after that match in Athletic Park! | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
I'd never seen a display by an outside-half | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
over an extended period of time | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
that comes anything close to what he was able to do. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
There was nothing that Barry didn't feel he couldn't do on that tour. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:28 | |
He just portrayed how simple the game can be, | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
and he was majestic, and it was a pleasure to watch him perform. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:39 | |
You're there to conduct the orchestra. You're the main playmaker. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:44 | |
You're pulling the strings. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:46 | |
Catch it and give it, and let the greyhounds go, let them loose. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
It was a simple task, to be honest. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
He had so much time on the ball, | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
he treated them with disdain in many ways. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
No-one could get anywhere near him. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
He was so light and he evaded the tackles. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
He was...the...the king. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
I didn't have a clue about line-out signals, what they were, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:31 | |
so if I'd been kidnapped and drugged and they'd said, | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
"Give us the line-out signals," I didn't know what the hell they were on about. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:37 | |
I didn't know we had any! | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
And my motto, and I used to tell the boys, "Just get me the ball. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
"How you get it, I don't care. Just get me the ball." | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
Out there on the pitch I felt absolutely wonderful. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
Free, I can do what the hell I want here. It's my little paradise, this. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:59 | |
Leave me alone. And I was alone, | 0:47:59 | 0:48:01 | |
so I could just go out and explain and declare yourself. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
Marvellous feeling. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
Who do you remember of the Lions of 1971? | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
I named a baby after Barry John? | 0:48:22 | 0:48:26 | |
-You never did? -Yeah, I did. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:28 | |
Barry John Henry. It was just one of those things. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:32 | |
He was the second boy we had, he was a bit brand-new, | 0:48:32 | 0:48:36 | |
and Barry John just seemed to fit. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
But yeah, it sounded like a good name at the time. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:45 | |
-They promoted Barry John a lot. -Yeah. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
King, King John. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
Well, you might have called him King John, but... | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
The tourists headed north for the final three provincial games | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
and the last Test, always played at Eden Park in Auckland. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
There were storylines to tie up - | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
to remain unbeaten in the non-Test games, | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
John Bevan to equal the try record | 0:49:08 | 0:49:10 | |
set by Tony O'Reilly of Ireland in 1959 - | 0:49:10 | 0:49:14 | |
17 tries for the Lions in New Zealand. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
You are weary, you've spent three and a half months changing your towels twice a week, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
you're wined and dined, you've got to go to receptions. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
It's now taking its toll, | 0:49:26 | 0:49:28 | |
and certainly the last couple of weeks of the tour are hard. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:32 | |
It's like a final lap in a marathon, I suppose. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
You know, you've done so far, you've worked all the way, | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
don't mess it up now. Come on, boys. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
COMMENTATOR: Hello, everyone, from Auckland in the North Island of New Zealand. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
And some 56,000 here in this garden-like setting at Eden Park | 0:49:50 | 0:49:54 | |
have paid more than 130,000 to see the 1971 Lions play this, | 0:49:54 | 0:50:01 | |
the most important and last game on New Zealand soil. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:04 | |
Eden Park. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
They said a draw would be enough to win the series. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
Manager Doug Smith, way back after their first defeat against Queensland, | 0:50:13 | 0:50:17 | |
had said that the Lions would win the Test series | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
won two, lost one, drawn one. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
But in rugby, a draw is an unusual result. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
In 100 tests since 1891, there have been just nine draws. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:30 | |
It was as improbable as JPR dropping a goal from 45 metres. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:35 | |
These things simply didn't happen. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
COMMENTATOR: Davies, Barry John. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
Mike Gibson on the ten-yard line. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
That's a nice one into the box. Covering, Wayne Cottrell. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
Full of experience. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
That's what experience counts, knowing what to do, | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
and what glorious running. The inside pass. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
It's a three-to-one situation... | 0:50:59 | 0:51:00 | |
It's more desperation, I suppose, really. All we could do was draw it. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:05 | |
I guess we knew we couldn't win it, fine, get on with it. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:10 | |
We've got to beat these guys and at least come away with a drawn series. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:16 | |
Sid Going. Number 8 forward Wyllie, the dummy. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
Beautiful piece of work there. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
This could be a try, but a great tackle, and a try for Cottrell. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:26 | |
We started pretty well that game, | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
and looked as if we could take it, but that was a great Lions side. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
They had lots of really top players, lots of experience. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:36 | |
Edwards, two yards short. Can he get there? He's one yard short now. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:44 | |
Back on the Lions side. Over they are, and it's a score! | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
Was there an element of concern now that actually you might be | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
the first to go down to the Lions? | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
Oh, no, you don't go in with that concern, you go in, | 0:51:53 | 0:51:58 | |
"we're going to win," you know, straight out. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:02 | |
You know, I always think, we'd have scored a try | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
if it hadn't have been for JPR Williams. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
I think he bowled Jazz Muller and nearly killed the poor bugger! | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
Pick-up, though, by Muller. John Williams was with him. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:17 | |
Well, that was a moment that I'd love to see again, the big man, | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
the biggest in the side, and the Lions full-back | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
the only thing between number 1, Muller, and glory and the line. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
And then he drop-kicked a goal, | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
the only one he drop-kicked in his bloody life! | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
And it was from bloody 45 yards out, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
it wasn't an easy drop-kick or anything like that, | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
and so, you know, there was a bit of magic in their team. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:44 | |
The ball was out near the touchline, | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
and we were throwing it infield, and we were going backwards, actually. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:51 | |
So I got the ball on the back foot, really, | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
and there were a couple of people outside, | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
and I didn't want to shovel bad ball on any further. | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
So I thought, "Well, let's have a go for it," | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
and I just hit it perfectly, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:03 | |
and it was still rising when it went over the posts. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
JPR decided that he'd be a drop-kicker. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
-I don't think he'd ever got a drop-kick in his life, had he? -No. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
And he banged it over from damn halfway. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
Gareth Edwards waiting for this one. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
Duckham flinging it out. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
John Williams, the full-back. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
Oh, he turned well! | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
And he did it! | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
John Williams, number 15 there... | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
We're on the way to the test match, everyone was very tense. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
So I sat up and said, "OK, guys, today I'm going to drop a goal." | 0:53:31 | 0:53:35 | |
And everyone just burst out laughing, it sort of cut the ice. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
And that's why I turned to the reserves | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
in the stand after I did it, with the thumbs-up. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
Number 15 there, John Williams, hit that one straight and true. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:53 | |
We're nearly there, we're nearly touching the winning line. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
And so I just kicked to the corner and put them under pressure. | 0:53:56 | 0:54:01 | |
So we trapped them there for the last five or six minutes. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:05 | |
It wasn't glorious stuff, but as I said, that was a result job. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
As Sid Going feeds this one. Cottrell with him going blind. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:13 | |
The knock-on, and that's it! | 0:54:13 | 0:54:18 | |
That's it! | 0:54:18 | 0:54:20 | |
A drawn match here, 14 points all at Eden Park. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
But the British Lions have won the series. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
When you've put something on a pedestal like this | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
and you actually crack it, it's a let-down in many ways. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:38 | |
"What's happened to the other side? I've climbed Everest." | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
There's nothing after Everest. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
A great day, Carwyn, | 0:54:43 | 0:54:44 | |
in a life that has been a very distinguished one in rugby up to now, | 0:54:44 | 0:54:48 | |
but this must be one of THE moments? | 0:54:48 | 0:54:49 | |
Oh, yes, one of the truly emotional moments, I would have said. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:54 | |
The boys played superbly yet again today. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
It's been a long journey, Cliff, it's been a hard tour. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
24 matches here in New Zealand, and the boys have played well, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
with spirit, in all these matches, | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
and I think they thoroughly deserved to win the series in the end. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
Tortured, tormented Carwyn James, | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
a quiet man who once made the Lions roar, just the once. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:17 | |
He'd never coach them again, he'd never coach Wales. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:21 | |
But 40 years ago he and his team came here and were the best. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
Because to win in this land of beauty and power and menace, | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
you have to BE the best. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
I don't think that had ever happened in the history of rugby football, | 0:55:57 | 0:56:02 | |
to come back to London Heathrow | 0:56:02 | 0:56:04 | |
and to find there were thousands of people who had travelled | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
the length and breadth of this country of ours to greet us home. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
It was an amazing moment, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
to think that that's what we had meant to so many people. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:21 | |
I didn't realise at the time that we'd created history, | 0:56:23 | 0:56:27 | |
it hadn't hit home, if you like. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
The fact that no British side had ever won a Test series in New Zealand prior to 1971. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:36 | |
And now we're talking 40 years on here, | 0:56:36 | 0:56:38 | |
nobody has ever won a Test series since then. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
So it's pretty unique in the annals of British rugby. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
We went to New Zealand and we played 24 games - | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
four Tests, 20 provincials. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
And we only lost one game. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:55 | |
And that is a phenomenal achievement. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
And that will never, ever be repeated. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:00 | |
If you had said 40 years ago that I'd be sitting here | 0:57:00 | 0:57:04 | |
talking about winning the series in '71, | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
I would never have believed you. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
But it happened, and it's something to treasure. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:14 | |
I think, in life sometimes, it was meant to be. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:21 | |
It was meant to be, | 0:57:21 | 0:57:23 | |
and maybe we were the people who were meant to be to achieve it. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:26 | |
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