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Hello and welcome. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
I first met Muhammad Ali in 1968, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
a year or so after he'd been stripped | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
of his world heavyweight title | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
for refusing, on religious grounds, to fight in Vietnam. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
Throughout the next few pivotal years of his life, we met often | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
and talked on television at least seven or eight times. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
A good preparation for taking a look, as we're about to do, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
at Muhammad Ali as he was then and Muhammad Ali as he is now. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:05 | |
ROAR OF CROWD | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
COMMENTATOR: 'Oh! That left caught him! It came from nowhere. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:13 | |
'Ali makes two with the left. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
'The crowd screaming. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:16 | |
'The first knockdown in the fight he took the mandatory eight. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
'And now Ali is behaving like the old Ali. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
'One more knockdown in this round, the fight is automatically over. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
'He is running. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
'If he goes down again... | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
'It's over! Ali is the knockout winner | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
'at two minutes and three seconds, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
'by my unofficial clock, of the final round.' | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
Tell me, when you were boxing, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
which did you regard as your strongest hand, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
your right or your left? | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
Really? | 0:01:53 | 0:01:54 | |
Why is it, do you think, that over the years | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
black boxers do better than white boxers? | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
What would be your advice to young boxers today? | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
Hit and run! | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
As you drive into Muhammad Ali's spacious 88-acre estate | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
in southwest Michigan, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
first you glimpse a comfortable farmhouse. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
Then you drive on to the office building | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
where Muhammad and his wife Lonnie work with their staff. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
They are the offices of GOAT, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
an acronym for Greatest Of All Time. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
Few would disagree. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
Muhammad, it's 34 years since we first met. How are you? | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
But feeling good? | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
Do you think that the Parkinson's that you've got | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
was caused by boxing. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
Despite the Parkinson's, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
your mind is just as good, isn't it, today, as it ever was? | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
Perhaps better. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:52 | |
Yeah. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
Yeah. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:06 | |
He makes appearances, but for different types of legislation, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
especially when it comes to funding. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
I think what bothers him more is when he sees young adults | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
affected by this disease, and it is a very insidious disease. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
I mean, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:27 | |
his association with Michael J Fox and the Michael J Fox Foundation, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
I think Michael had a big impact on Muhammad | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
because Michael's still young and, you know, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
he has young children, a young wife, and Muhammad could say, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
"I've lived most of my life". | 0:04:41 | 0:04:42 | |
But this is a young guy who has gotten this. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
And Michael's very affected by this illness, this disease. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
He doesn't let it stop him | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
but his motor functions are very much affected by it. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
And with the new drugs, it could...it could get better. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:58 | |
Or not worse - could get better. | 0:04:58 | 0:04:59 | |
It's always up and down. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:16 | |
It's always trying to adjust and re-adjust | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
because I think the body becomes immune to things eventually. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
And with Muhammad, it's particular difficult | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
because his body's so fine-tuned. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
As we've just seen, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:28 | |
one of the major contrasts in Muhammad's life then and now | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
is his physical condition, waging a brave fight | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
against the most remorseless opponent he has ever had to fight - | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
Parkinson's. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
After some of the more lurid newspaper stories | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
we've read about his health over the years, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
I must say my first emotion was a sense of relief, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
that Muhammad had not lost the characteristic sense of humour | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
and natural intelligence | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
that had delighted the world ever since his career began. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
We started by reminiscing about those early days. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
What was your first memory of throwing a punch? How old were you? | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
Did you know then you were going to be famous, when you were a kid? | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Cassius Clay, as he then was, first achieved world recognition | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
when he won the heavyweight gold medal at the Rome Olympics of 1960. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
He and his team-mates made no attempt to conceal their delight. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
After you'd won the gold medal in the Olympics | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
and you went back home to Louisville, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
and in fact, the five and dime store wouldn't serve you, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
did you really throw your Olympic gold medal into the Ohio River? | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
You really did throw it in the river? | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
And in fact, you got that gold medal... | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
they gave you a new gold medal in 1996, at Atlanta, didn't they? | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
And in those early days in Miami, just before you were training... | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
when you were training there, that was when you met, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
would you say one of the most important people in your life, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
Malcolm X? | 0:09:24 | 0:09:25 | |
Was he one of the most important people in your life? | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
And you really liked Malcolm X, did you? | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
Of all the fights, what's your greatest memory? Which one? | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
Yeah. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
Just four weeks before Muhammad's greatest fight, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
I was fortunate enough to be at his training camp | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
in Deer Lake for an interview. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
After we'd climbed into the ring, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
what followed was vintage Ali. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
No problem. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:14 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
No problem. This will be the biggest upset since Sonny Liston. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
And I think it is befitting | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
that I go out of boxing just like I came in - | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
defeating a big, bad monster that nobody could destroy. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
A hard punch. I'm the underdog. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
If he hits me, I'm in trouble, like the Sonny Liston fight. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
But I came back and I shook the world when I got Liston. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
Now it's ten years since Sonny Liston, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
I'm meeting another big, bad, strong monster, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
knockout artist that beats everybody. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
Sonny Liston knocked out Patterson twice and I was supposed to fall. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
But he didn't knock me out because... | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
He could hit hard but he couldn't find nothing to hit. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
George Foreman knocked out Ken Norton, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
knocked out Joe Frazier. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
True, I didn't knock him out but I'm so fast, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
I'm so hard, so scientific - I'm a totally different man from Frazier. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
Listen, David, when I meet this man, if you think the world was surprised | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
when Nixon resigned, wait till I whip Foreman's behind! | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:12:18 | 0:12:24 | |
I'm telling you, David, I'm down to 215 pounds, right now sat here | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
weighing 215, I'm fighting weight already. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
I usually train six weeks for a fight. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
I've trained four months for this fight, I'm chopping trees, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
I've done something special - I've wrestled with an alligator. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
I believe you totally. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
-I believe you completely. -I have tussled with a whale, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
I've handcuffed lighting, throw thunder in jail. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
You know I'm bad. Only last week I murdered a rock, injured a stone, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
hospitalised a brick, I'm so mean I make medicine sick. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
Man's in trouble. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
Listen, people are afraid of George Foreman, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
they talk about how hard he hits - the world has been deceived. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
You listen, I've never told you wrong, the man don't hit hard, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
he knocked Joe Frazier down six times, he got up six times. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
Jose King Roman, the Puerto Rican fighter, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
he knocked him down three times, he jumped up three times. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
He knocked Ken Norton down four times, he jumped up four times. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
When have you ever seen the man say seven, eight, nine, ten... | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
Count this man out. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:31 | |
When I hit Sonny Liston, he stayed out for the count of ten. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
Zora Folley stayed out for the count of ten, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Cleveland Williams stayed out for the count of ten. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
What few I haven't knocked out stayed down. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
Sugar Ray Robinson I knocked him out for the count of 30, Joe Lewis, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
Marciano, Jack Dempsey, Jack Johnson, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
Archie Moore, they knock 'em out cold, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
so this man has never knocked nobody out cold, he's a bully. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
He's slow, he has no skill, no footwork, he's awkward, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
and I have given him a name... | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
I named Floyd Patterson the Rabbit, I named Sonny Liston the Bear, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
and he shall be known officially as the Mummy! | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
The Mummy. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:10 | |
Why the Mummy? | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
Because when he's fighting, if you ever watch him in the ring, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
he drags like this at his opponent. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
And how's a mummy ever going to catch me? | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
When you're fighting a mummy, you just keep a step ahead of the mummy, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
yeah, just move on the mummy. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:31 | |
Nope, mummy, I'm over here. Nope, mummy I'm over here... | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
No, you're moving too fast, the Mummy don't move that fast! | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
Let me tell you something, David, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
I shall be the Mummy's curse that night. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
-Have you heard of the Mummy's curse? -Have I heard of the Mummy's curse? | 0:14:44 | 0:14:49 | |
Yes, it's going to be some fight. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
The greatest fight, the greatest event of all time | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
when I get to Kinshasa, Zaire. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
Two billion people will watch the fight | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
and that's ten times the population of America. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
That's like a country ten times bigger than America. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
Two billion people, to give you an idea how many people that is, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
two billion people will fill an arena of 100,000 seats | 0:15:10 | 0:15:15 | |
every night with new faces for 170 years. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
-That's a great... -A hundred thousand people every night, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
new faces, for 170 years and I draw that crowd, not George Foreman. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:27 | |
It's my beautiful looks, it's my skill, um, it's my va-va-voom-ness. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
Your beauty and your humble... | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
I think first of all it's your humbleness | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
and then it's your beauty, isn't it? | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
Cos when you look in the mirror in the morning, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
it must be a wonderful experience. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
You know, I've been in the ring now for probably 20 years | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
and I'm as pretty as you(!) | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
And slightly fitter. Which round is it going to end? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
I'm not predicting the round. Uh, could, but it puts me on the spot. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:58 | |
You worry about predicting the round and then you might get him early | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
and then you'd carry on to that round or you might slip up | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
and get hurt, there's too much pressure. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
I predict, David, that I'm going to out-dance him, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
I'm going to stick him, I'm going to be three times as fast, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
I'm going to punch him at will. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
I might not knock him out cold but I'll TKO him. I predict a TKO. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
I predict that the fight will be stopped on cuts or bruises. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
I'll humiliate him. Humiliation will stop this fight. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
The referee will just step in and stop cos I'll just be | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
popping at will, popping and sticking and moving and I'm constant... | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
I'm popping at will until the man will just have to stop it. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
You mean, it's going to be the first world title ever stopped on the grounds of humiliation? | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
No, they've stopped a few of mine for that | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
and they've stopped other ones, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
but I'm serious, this man has two chances - slim and none. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:56 | |
-The man is in trouble. -The man... | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
-He's got problems. -He's got problems. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
Have you done any...apart from wrestling with an alligator, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
have you done anything special this time, diets? | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
Not just boxers, any athlete has to refrain from anything | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
that is bad for his health. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
So, therefore... | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
Especially when you have a strenuous sport, football, baseball, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
basketball, wrestling, anything that takes stamina is hard | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
and anybody watching this evening, you yourself, you get up | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
and jump around - man or woman - scuffle with someone, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
jump around with them for three minutes and watch how tired you get. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
Serious wrestling and competition is tiresome | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
and for 15 rounds before 150,000 people, knowing two billion | 0:17:40 | 0:17:45 | |
people are watching, takes a lot out of you. It makes your... | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
You got the world's greatest fighter and one of the world's best | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
taking punches at your face, your body, little hard gloves on, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
and everything at stake, your futures, your lives, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
your family's investments, everything's at stake - this worries you. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
The pressure and the excitement, the drama. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
Even people who come to fights are nervous, and many of the fans here | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
and yourself, I mean, the night you go to the fight, you'll be nervous | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
just waiting for the bell to ring. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
Finally these two men are going to clash, who's going to win, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
Muhammad Ali or George Foreman? | 0:18:17 | 0:18:18 | |
-Both of them are great, one's got to fall, right? -Yeah! | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
Somebody's got to leave and you're excited. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
You're not as dumb as you look, fella! | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
Was rope-a-dope something you planned | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
or something you thought of on the night? | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
Are boxers today as good as they were in your day, or is boxing today | 0:19:24 | 0:19:30 | |
not as good as it was in your day? | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
And Mike Tyson, I mean, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
should they have banned Mike Tyson? | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
Well, originally he bit off | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
part of Evander Holyfield's ear, originally. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
That is bad, isn't it? | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
And then later on, he got in a fight | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
in a press conference with Lennox Lewis. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
But Mike Tyson is not necessarily a good example to young people. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:02 | |
Is it better, when you're fighting, when you're boxing, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:25 | |
is it better to go into the ring | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
calm and cool or angry? | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
I mean, you've done both, probably, but which is better? | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
If you had your time over again, though, would you, Muhammad, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
have retired earlier - maybe in '77 or '79? | 0:22:02 | 0:22:09 | |
Tell me, which is worse. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
Which is the greatest fear for a boxer going into the ring. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
Is it the fear of getting hurt or the fear of losing - | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
which is the worst? | 0:22:29 | 0:22:30 | |
Who had the strongest punch against you? | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
Who put the hardest punches at you, Muhammad? | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
HE SNORES | 0:22:57 | 0:22:58 | |
Was it George Foreman or Joe Frazier or Spinks or who? | 0:22:58 | 0:23:04 | |
HE SNORES | 0:23:04 | 0:23:10 | |
Carry on, or shall we stop for a break? | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
We'll just take a couple of minutes? | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
He's teasing. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
DAVID LAUGHS | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
You did that brilliantly, we didn't know. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
That's the first time I've thought that someone I'm interviewing | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
had fallen asleep! You had us all going there. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Yep. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:37 | |
After Cassius Clay exchanged what he used to call his slave name | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
for the name Muhammad Ali in 1964, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
under the influence of Elijah Muhammad | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
he became an increasingly militant advocate for the blacks of America. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:58 | |
I'm not here to advise or meet nobody. I'm just shocked and...shook up over | 0:23:58 | 0:24:05 | |
hearing about the people and the children and the pregnant women that have been brutalised | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
and mistreated here in Kentucky. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
And at this moment, when I'm expected to go overseas | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
to help free the people in South Vietnam, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
and at the same time, my people here are being brutalized and mistreated, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:24 | |
and this has disturbed me more than what's happening in Vietnam. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
You told me 34 years ago that all white men were devils. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
I believe that all white people are devils. I'm not going to be phoney. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
I've given up 10 million in fighting, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
I'll go to jail for five years, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
and you think I'm going to get on this TV show and deny | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
what I believe? | 0:24:43 | 0:24:44 | |
-No. -I believe every bit of it. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
-I know. I'm just... -Tell white people, defend yourself, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
and challenge this man. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
I challenge you now. In the sense that... | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
I don't disagree with the fact that some white people... | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
some white people are devils... | 0:24:58 | 0:24:59 | |
The Christian Bible says all white people are devils. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
The Christian Bible says all people are sinful. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
It says all white Gentiles and Jews are devils. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
-No, it says all people are sinful. -In the Christian Bible. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
-If we say that the whole world... -Have you time to stop the show and let me get my briefcase? | 0:25:12 | 0:25:17 | |
-Yeah, sure. -Can you stop the tape for a minute? | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
-We'll keep the tape running... -Let me get my briefcase... -Get it in four hundredths of a second... | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
Right. Well, he's just going to... | 0:25:23 | 0:25:29 | |
prove to us that all white people are devils. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
We'll keep the tape running and... | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
..and wait for him to return. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
Here we are. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:42 | |
It says here in Romans... | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
-Romans? -..third chapter, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
and ninth verse... | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
"What then," it says, "are we better they? | 0:26:00 | 0:26:06 | |
"No and no wise, for we have before proved | 0:26:06 | 0:26:12 | |
"both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:18 | |
"As it is written, there is non-righteous. No, not one." | 0:26:18 | 0:26:24 | |
That proves what I said because that includes you and the blacks... | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
-It says Jews and Gentiles. -The Greek word for Gentiles means... | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
The Greek word for Gentiles means non-Jews. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
You've got a marvellous case. You're ruining it by going too far. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
-Prove I'm going too far. -Prove to me that it happened every day. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
What I'm doing is right. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:45 | |
We couldn't preach this every day if it wasn't right. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
-Look, if you're going to... -Nobody challenges us, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
-not even the white government - everybody knows we preach. -I challenged you and I was right. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
-You're not right. Jews and Gentiles, which is white people... -Gentiles means BLACK people... | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
-No. Gentiles means white people. -Gentiles means everyone who isn't a Jew. -Gentiles means white people. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
You don't really believe that now, do you? | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
A dramatic example of Muhammad Ali then and now. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:42 | |
After our first interview in 1968, I said to him that he was sounding | 0:27:42 | 0:27:47 | |
a bit like a black George Wallace, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
referring to the white supremacist governor of Alabama. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
Nevertheless, his warmth and humanity still came through. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
I said to him that if only he could change the rhetoric, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
he could be a black Bobby Kennedy, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
rather than a black George Wallace. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
Over the years, not because I said so, he has made that journey. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
He just said there, not all white men are devils, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
anybody could be evil, it's the mentality not the colour. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:16 | |
Things are different now in Louisville, aren't they? | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
The blacks get a better deal in Louisville today, don't they? | 0:28:19 | 0:28:25 | |
Muhammad Ali is the man who, as an individual, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
has stood for so many things. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
He stood primarily for the fact that we must all come together | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
and live in peace. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
I'd like to present a proclamation to Muhammad and Lonnie | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
at this very time. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
The Ali Center is really a legacy to the ideals, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
the beliefs and the values of Muhammad Ali. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
If you look at the man, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
an evolution of the man, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:30 | |
you can learn a lot. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
I thought his footprint was too big | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
to be left aside. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
It could serve as a guide, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
as a template for children to develop into being | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
as great at they wanted to be, just like Muhammad did. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
A simple little boy from Louisville, Kentucky. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
He didn't have much but had a dream. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
And he dreamed big. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:52 | |
And he always believed in himself. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
When you look at the evolution of this man | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
and how he came to be who he is today, | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
a world-class citizen, a citizen of the world, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:04 | |
who is loved by people all over the world, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
regardless of where they come from, their religion, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
their ethnic backgrounds, their political philosophies, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
you have to think, what made this man | 0:30:12 | 0:30:17 | |
and the way he's able to relate to people. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
Muhammad is one who, seriously, believe it or not, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:25 | |
even though he was a boxer in the ring, seriously avoids conflict. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
He always tries to work out and find a peaceful resolution, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
even if it's in the household. Um... | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
And that too the Center will carry | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
because we believe that if there's any one single individual | 0:30:39 | 0:30:44 | |
who is alive in the world today who could bring people together | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
to a table, to talk over their differences | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
and find some type of constructive understanding and solution | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
to the issues that they have with each other, | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
it would be Muhammad. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:58 | |
Do you think, in terms of the Muslim world and our world, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:04 | |
that you could act as a bridge | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
to help bring understanding? | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
How many times did you visit Mecca? | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
Was it a fantastic and awe-inspiring experience for you as a... | 0:31:30 | 0:31:37 | |
After September 11th, you made some great statements. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
Do you think our war against the Taliban and against AlQaeda, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:03 | |
the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, that's really a just war, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
we're right to try and stop terror? | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
So, you... You float like a butterfly with that question? | 0:32:49 | 0:32:55 | |
Who are you most grateful to for your career? | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
What way is Allah different from the God I believe in? | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
Is Allah different? In what way is he different? | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
-Is he more of a man? -Allah IS a man. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
Where your God is probably a spirit. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
Something that you can't see and is harmless, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
somewhere floating around. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
Our God is on Earth. Allah is on Earth. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
-Is he? -He's a man. That's why you say God created man in his own image. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
If I make a chair in the image of that chair you're sitting in, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
it'll look like that chair. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
So, God made us in his image. You're telling me God's a man. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
He look like us. And you refer to God as him, right? | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
His and he. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
Whether it's a cat, rat or dog, anything of a male sex, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
you refer to it as him, his or he. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
So, if God is a spirit and a spook, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
why do you keep saying he, him and his? | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
We teach that God is on Earth. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
He is a supreme being. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:29 | |
You are a HUMAN being. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
He is a being too but he is supreme over the other beings. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
Do you pray to your God, to Allah? | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
I pray every morning at five o'clock. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
My clock rings at 4.30. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
I'm up at five. I take a shower. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
I put my white robe on. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
I put the towel on the floor and I face the east, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
towards Mecca. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
We say, "Surely, I have turned myself to Thee, O Allah. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
"Trying to be upright, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:55 | |
"to him who has originated the heavens and the Earth. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
"And I'm not of the polytheists. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
"Surely my prayers, my sacrifices, my life and my death | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
"are all for Allah, the Lord of all the worlds. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
"No associates has he. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:08 | |
"This I am commanded. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
"I am of those who submit. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
"O, Allah. Thou art the King. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
"Thou art mine Lord and I am thine servant. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
"I have been greatly unjust to myself | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
"and I do confess my fault. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
"So please grant me protection against all my faults. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
"For none grants protection against faults but Thou. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
"And to lead me to the best of morals. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
"For none can turn away from me | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
"the worst of morals but Thee. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
"And guide me to the best of morals | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
"for none can guide to the best of morals but Thee. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
"O Allah, make the Honourable Elijah Muhammad successful | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
"and make the followers of Muhammad | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
"successful here in the wilderness of North America | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
"as Thou didst make Abraham and the followers of Abraham successful | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
"for surely Thou praise are magnified in Thy midst. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
"O Allah, bless Muhammad and bless the followers of Muhammad | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
"here in the wilderness of North America | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
"as Thou didst bless Abraham and the followers of Abraham | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
"for surely Thou art praise and magnified in Thy midst." | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
There ain't nothing more beautiful than getting up in the morning, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
brushing your teeth, washing your mouth, removing the sin and evil that you've got from the world. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:18 | |
Comb your hair, wash the dirt out of your hair. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
Clean your ears - all parts of your body. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
Put a clean white robe on, don't even stand on the dirty floor, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
stand on the towel, no shoes on, facing the east, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
asking the originator of the universe to make me better, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
make me stronger, give me more power. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
This is done five times a day when I can, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
especially when I go to bed - | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
another bath, another shower, clean my mouth, pray - | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
and at five in the morning, this goes on and when I'm right... | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
Now, I didn't do that for the first Frazier fight, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
nor the first Norton fight. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
-Really? -No, sir. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:54 | |
My head got big and I started thinking it was my training camp | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
and my boxing ability that kept me where I was at | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
and God punished me and he gave me a good whoopin'. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
He broke my jaw in the second fight | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
and he got me whooped and knocked down in the Frazier fight. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
I realised I wasn't that great after all. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
So, I had to get not only together physically but spiritually. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
For this fight, I've prayed every day for five days, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
five times a day for the past... | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
four months and everything is perfect | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
and if Allah's with me, there ain't no way no man can win! | 0:37:21 | 0:37:26 | |
No way! | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
When I got Allah and Elijah Muhammad, can't no human being win. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
There is no way, no way, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
cos I'm representing God, | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
I'm representing the freedom of black people in America. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
I want to be the one black man who stands up and looks at white people | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
and tells the truth, who don't sell them out, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
who don't Uncle Tom, who don't promote cigarettes, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
don't promote whisky, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:49 | |
take his fame to uplift his little brother in the ghetto | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
cos all the other movie stars and all the other people that you know, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
like Diahann Carroll, one you know, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
they all a white man, they want to marry a white | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
and they all... They don't think black. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
And on down the line, there's many more I could name, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
make movies hugging on white women. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:06 | |
They get their fame and they leave their little people. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
So, I'm asking God, Allah, to make me strong, not for me - | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
don't give me no money, don't give me the fame. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
I want to win so I can come home | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
and speak for the brother who's living in rat-infested houses, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
sleeping on concrete in the ghetto, can't go on television and speak, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
so God, I'm your tool, I'm your servant, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
let me get this man tonight! | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
And go out blastin'! | 0:38:28 | 0:38:29 | |
MEMBERS OF AUDIENCE CHEER | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
-That's the way I think. -That's... | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
That is an incredible speech | 0:38:33 | 0:38:34 | |
and what you do for black pride is absolutely incredible. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
-This is the way I feel. -What you do for black pride... | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
I'm not fighting for me. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:42 | |
I'm looking at George Foreman, the establishment. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
The flag-waver. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:46 | |
If he wins, I'm thinking - which is not true - | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
but if he wins, we're enslaved for 300 more years. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
If I win, we are free. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
I'm not Foreman, you know that, don't you? | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
There's a little forehand. LAUGHTER | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
-No, I see Foreman, I don't see a black man, I see you. -Yeah. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
I see, I see...the White House. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
-LAUGHTER -I'm not the White House either! | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
I see the...I see something white! | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
I don't know what he is. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
Ya-ah, ya-ah! | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
Cos I'm fighting! | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
I'm...fighting slavery! I want to be free! | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
-That's what I'm fightin'! -OK, you can be free. You've persuaded me. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
-You do a fantastic... -That's the way I think too. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
I just don't be fighting. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
I've got to get my mind like this, see. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
I'm bucking so many odds, and a bad man, too much for me to handle. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:43 | |
I've got to call on the supreme being to step in, to intervene. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
The same with the Liston fight, I did a lot of praying. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
And same with the giraffe, same with the second Norton fight, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
the second Frazier fight. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
Divine power came in. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:55 | |
If you watched the last round of Norton, the last round of Frazier, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
you'll find that if I lost the last round with Frazier in this fight, I would have lost the fight. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:03 | |
If I'd lost the last round of the Norton fight, I'd have lost the fight. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
Those two fights I got a supreme power from the supreme being. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:13 | |
I started dancing, moving | 0:40:13 | 0:40:14 | |
and anybody that watched that fight | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
don't know how Muhammad Ali came back in them rounds | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
cos I prayed to heaven and relied on Allah and I DANCED! | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
I DANCED! | 0:40:22 | 0:40:23 | |
I was diggin' and dancing, I was eatin' Frazier up in that last round. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
Ken Norton came back after a broken jaw, dancing! | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
He was fast and I was faster. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
So, this fight - I'm calling all everything. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
Not only my physical ability but all over. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
The supreme being, Allah. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
Muhammad Ali's journey away from the more extreme Nation of Islam | 0:40:41 | 0:40:46 | |
has not at any stage led him away from his basic faith in Allah. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
That remains constant, then and now. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
His concern for his family has, if anything, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
also grown with the passing years. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
Would you like your son Asaad to go into boxing? | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
Why not? | 0:41:04 | 0:41:05 | |
May not make it. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:15 | |
What do you think about women's boxing? | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
Although he wishes his daughter was not boxing, | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
the respectful tolerance of that last answer | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
says something about the way his attitude to women | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
has developed from then to now. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
This was Muhammad Ali on The David Frost Show, in 1972. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:26 | |
I think a woman's useless | 0:42:26 | 0:42:27 | |
if she can't produce a man's generation, his future, you know? | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
Did I understand you think a woman is useless unless she can produce a lot of children? | 0:42:31 | 0:42:36 | |
You think...? | 0:42:36 | 0:42:37 | |
I mean, I'd buy the food, I'd do all the working | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
and all you can do is produce the children. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
And this is what his wife Lonnie has to say about him now. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
He likes dialogue and he likes to talk about religious issues. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
And...especially female issues. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
It's interesting because he really likes to challenge you | 0:42:52 | 0:42:57 | |
on some of the viewpoints on Islam with women. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
Believe me, when you look at who I am today, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
this is because of Muhammad. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:04 | |
Muhammad has given me every opportunity in the world to be Superwoman | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
and sometimes all I want to do is to retreat to my household | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
and be a wife and a mother, forget the rest. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
So, I can't call Muhammad a chauvinist in no sense of the word. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
If you hadn't boxed, what would you have done? | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
You could have been a politician. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
What's a normal day now for Muhammad Ali? | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
Are you very happy... | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
happy and content now, your life with Lonnie...? | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
Is this one of the happiest times of your life, despite Parkinson's? | 0:45:01 | 0:45:06 | |
As you look back over your life now... | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
is there anything you'd change in your life, Muhammad? | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
Back in 1974, when Muhammad was at my home in London, | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
he inscribed this message on a card... | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
"A man who sees the world the same way at 60 | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
"that he did at 30 | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
"has lived and wasted 30 years of his life." | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
Well, it's very clear that Muhammad Ali has not... | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
..wasted the last 30 years of HIS life. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
What's the thing you would most like people to say about your life, | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
"He was a great champion", or what? | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
What would you like people to think about you when you've gone? | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
I'd like for them to say, "He took a few cups of love. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
"He took one tablespoon of patience. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
"One tablespoon, teaspoon of generosity. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
"One pint of kindness. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
"He took one quart of laughter, one pinch of concern | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
"and then he mixed willingness with happiness, | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
"he added lots of faith and he stirred it up well. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
"Then he spread it over a span of a lifetime | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
"and he served it to each and every deserving person he met." | 0:47:37 | 0:47:41 | |
-Muhammad Ali, thank you very much. -APPLAUSE | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
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