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THIS PROGRAMME CONTAINS SOME STRONG LANGUAGE | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
I'm dancing. Follow me. No, I'm not there. I'm here. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
CHEERING | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
"All you need for a movie is a gun and a girl," | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
said director Jean-Luc Godard. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:16 | |
But I'd suggest an alternative. A boxing match. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
-Hit him! Hit him, Charlie! -Adrian! | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
Because when one fighter sends another to the canvas, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
it is a moment of elemental drama. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
I'd like to see him cut to ribbons. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
But for all its familiarity, in the 120 years that film | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
and boxing have been entwined, the boxing movie has never stood still. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
She's younger, she's stronger and she's more experienced. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
Now, what are you going to do about it? | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
I'm going to explore how each generation's fight films | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
have reflected their times and ask why, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
again and again, filmmakers have returned to tales of the ring. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:59 | |
And why we keep returning to watch them. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
This is the place where great themes can be addressed. Redemption. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
When I saw the mural of Christ on the wall, I said, "Terrific." | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
If people make the association, it couldn't hurt. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
-Race. -He had style, glamour and it angered the white establishment. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:23 | |
Corruption. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:24 | |
If you explore anybody's life story in boxing, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
if they were any good at all, they were asked to take a dive at some point. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
What it is to be a man. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
There are only two options available to men - | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
there's rage and there's desire. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
Sexual desire and the desire to beat other people up. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
It's like a distillation of a lot of things, the boxing ring. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
It's the way you earn your living, you test your courage, you risk | 0:01:50 | 0:01:56 | |
losing your dignity and all of life comes together in a boxing ring. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:02 | |
Too much speed, boy. Too fast. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
I could've been a contender. I could have been somebody. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
That's entertainment. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
The ring is where you stand alone to be tested, but not just physically, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
because the greatest boxing movies are never just about boxing. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
# Oh, yeah... # | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
I discovered boxing at the same time I discovered movies, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
as a boy at the turn of the '80s. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
I'd watch the fights on TV with my grandfather | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
with the lights in the front room ceremonially switched off. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
There was a mix of grace and bravery | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
I found mesmerising there in the dark, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
the same dark in which | 0:02:57 | 0:02:58 | |
I was starting to appreciate the magic of film. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
And the boxing movie was where the two would come together. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
But in 1980, at eight years old, I was too young to know that | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
one of the greatest ever had just been made. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
As a devotee of movie history, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
Martin Scorsese made sure he knew the tradition of the boxing film | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
inside out before he began his own biopic of | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
a half-forgotten '40s middleweight called Jake LaMotta. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
In an extraordinary performance, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
Robert De Niro would bring alive LaMotta's savage story | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
from which Scorsese said he learned that the ring is everywhere. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:43 | |
The crisis in Raging Bull is one of the most interesting | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
and one of the most ambiguous aspects of the film. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
It still lends itself to debate. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:54 | |
People are still arguing about what exactly it is that happens to | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
Jake LaMotta and what exactly we're meant to make of it. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
It's certainly some kind of crisis about masculinity. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
It's very consistently portrayed in the film. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
What's the matter with you, ha? | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
What's with this kissing on the mouth? | 0:04:09 | 0:04:10 | |
I just said hello. Can't I kiss my sister-in-law? | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
Ain't the cheek good enough for you? | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
It's rendered through his paranoia | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
and his jealousy, his obsessive possessive | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
jealousy about his wife, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
his increasing fantasies that every single man that he knows, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
including his brother, is sleeping with his wife. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
That's not what I heard, Joe. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
-What you mean that's not what you heard? -It's not what I heard. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
-What did you hear? -I heard some things. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
-You heard about me and Salvi. -I heard things, Joey. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
I think it's the longest scene in the script, it was seven pages. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
And the paranoia was worked out very carefully. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
It was the escalation of his distrust | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
and paranoia of his brother, the escalation is what I was getting at. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
-Did Salvi fuck Vicky? -What? | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
Did Salvi fuck Vicky? | 0:04:55 | 0:04:56 | |
Hey, Jack, don't start your shit. No, really, don't start. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
Didn't I ask you to keep an eye on her? | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
And I did keep an eye on her. Yes, I did. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
-Then how come you give him a beating? -I told you that. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
No two ways around it. He was heading towards full destruction. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
That's the scene. It's the centre of the movie. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
On some level, there is clearly a question here about what | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
it means to be a man. In the most basic sense. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
What kind of manhood is available to Jake LaMotta? | 0:05:23 | 0:05:28 | |
SHE SCREAMS | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
Why'd you do it? Why'd you do it, ha? Why'd you do it? | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
-I didn't do anything. -Why'd you do it? Why'd you do it? Why'd you do it? | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
Why did you fuck them? | 0:05:37 | 0:05:38 | |
In Raging Bull, it suggests there are only two options available to men, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
two emotions that are available to men. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
There's rage, the Raging Bull, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
and there's desire. For Jake LaMotta's character, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
it becomes distilled down | 0:05:49 | 0:05:50 | |
into just sexual desire and the desire to beat other people up. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:55 | |
INDISTINCT | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
-What's the matter with you? -You fucked my wife. You fucked my wife. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
An interesting thing about a fighter, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
his job is to go in the ring and hit people and be hit. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
That's his drive, that's what he does. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
When he comes out of the ring, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
he's expected to act like a courtly gentleman? | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
I don't know. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:14 | |
How did you and Scorsese manage to make | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
a character like Jake LaMotta, who would seem so unlikeable, relatable? | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
De Niro originally had a very profound sense that he could | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
do something with this extraordinary character, who does appear, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:31 | |
on the surface, to be a monster | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
but he knew there was more to him than that. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
Vicky, this is my brother, Jake. He's going to be the next champ. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
How you doing? | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
Nice to meet you. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:47 | |
I think that De Niro, at first and of course Scorsese, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
sensed that they could find something very beautiful in this character | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
and make the audience care for him. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
Do you know how beautiful you are? Did anybody ever tell you... | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
In the publicity surrounding Raging Bull, of course, there is an | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
enormous amount of discussion about De Niro's transformation of his body. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
He starts out incredibly fit and then and undoes it all, instantly, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
and becomes very overweight in order to age | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
and in order to show the deterioration of the body. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
It's over. Boxing is over for me. I'm through. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
I'm tired of worrying about weight all the time. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
That's all I used to think about was weight, weight, weight. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
The film is really making explicit | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
and dramatising something that is implicit in almost all boxing films, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
which is the fact that the strength of the body is | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
also about the vulnerability of the body, it's about the fact that | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
death is always waiting, that destruction is always waiting, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
that as you throw that swing, there's another one coming at you. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
That's what they're going to do, they're going to do. What can I do? | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
It's like everything he does is down, down, down. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:01 | |
At the end, you saw him with the tiniest little uptick. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:07 | |
A lot of people out there? | 0:08:07 | 0:08:08 | |
Yeah, it's crowded. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
DOOR CLOSES | 0:08:10 | 0:08:11 | |
I think that's the thing that when I work with Scorsese | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
and just watching all the Scorsese movies, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
is that you tend to take a character and he plummets | 0:08:17 | 0:08:23 | |
and at the very last moment, he sort of saves himself. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
In saving himself, there just might be the slightest getting of wisdom. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:36 | |
And though I'm no Olivier if he fought Sugar Ray | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
He would say that the thing ain't the ring, it's the play | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
So give me a stage where this bull here can rage | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
And though I can fight I'd much rather recite. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
That's entertainment. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
From the earliest days of the motion picture back in the 1890s, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
cinema and boxing were bound up together. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
Boxing would be crucial in developing this new medium. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
The first true blockbuster would be a boxing film | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
and the first movie stars were prizefighters. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
I'm in New Jersey to visit what you might call | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
the cradle of the movie business. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
This is Thomas Edison's factory | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
and laboratory at 211 Main Street, West Orange. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
Famously, among his many inventions, were the phonograph and the light bulb. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
But none of that is what I am here for. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
I am here to see what Edison called his kinetographic theatre. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
This is an ageing reconstruction of Edison's Black Mariah, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:41 | |
the world's first film production studio. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
It was here that the first ever filmed boxing match took place in 1894. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:50 | |
The first films Edison shot here featured an employee sneezing, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
a Wild West circus show, scantily-clad women, of course, and cats boxing, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
which probably also makes him | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
the great-grandfather of the viral video. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
But the real thing arrived in 1894 when Edison shot the first ever | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
boxing match to be filmed here. To quote his own catalogue... | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
"An actual six-round contest between Mike Leonard, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
"commonly called the Beau Brummel of pugilism, and Jack Cushing. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
"Full of hard fighting, clever hits, punches, leads, dodges, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
"body blows and some slugging. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
"Sold by rounds, each round contains 150 feet. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
"Price per round, 22.50." | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Clearly, there was money to be made in the fight-film game. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
There's been more than 500 movies about boxing, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
more than any other sport. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
There's a good reason for that because it is very easy to film | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
and Thomas Edison understood that. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
It wasn't that Edison was a particular fan of boxing, but he just | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
knew that there was movement and action and drama, all in one space. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
Others were quick to pick up on its potential. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
In 1897, director Enoch J Rector filmed | 0:11:05 | 0:11:10 | |
a heavyweight contest between James J Corbett and Bob Fitzsimmons. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
Running for 1 hour 40 minutes, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
it's considered the first real feature film. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
It was also the first box-office blockbuster, going on to take | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
a then astonishing 750,000 or 20 million in today's money. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:30 | |
A decade later, cinema would find | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
its first hugely controversial star - | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
a boxer AND an African-American. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
Jack Johnson is a pivotal character in the history of boxing | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
and the way it has been represented, sold as sports entertainment. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:53 | |
He was basically the first major black heavyweight. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
Nobody could beat him. You could watch him | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
and it seemed like he was almost playing with his opponent. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
He was irreverent when blacks at that time were not meant to be | 0:12:05 | 0:12:11 | |
outspoken about anything. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
He caused a lot of attention and a lot of hatred. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
People hated him because of who he was. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
Johnson laughed at the establishment, he loved going out with white women. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:28 | |
He had style, glamour, and it angered the white establishment, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
who were determined to drive him out. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
The search for the great white hope was all based on that. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
That search for a great white hope to challenge Johnson | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
began as soon as he won the world heavyweight title in 1908, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
defeating Tommy Burns in Sydney, Australia. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
At that fight, such was the anxiety over a black boxer being seen | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
to conquer a white man, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
that all cameras were turned off before the bout was stopped. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
Back in the US, the press called for a white fighter to reclaim | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
the title and, as many saw it, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
put both Johnson and his race in their place. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
Their favourite was ex-champion Jim Jeffries. He would not succeed. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
On 4th July 1910, Johnson floored Jefferies in the 15th round | 0:13:21 | 0:13:27 | |
of the so-called "battle of the century". | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
That night, riots erupted in cities across America. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
Estimates put deaths at 24. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
Instantly, there were demands for all films | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
of Johnson's triumph to be banned. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
Later, with the establishment concerned that future prizefight movies | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
would show more black fighters beating white opponents, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
Congress passed a bill, the Sims Act, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
to stop boxing films being transported across state lines. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
Race would always be an awkward subject for the boxing film, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
but even in a new era, the fight game would remain the star. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
It was inevitable ambitious filmmakers would be drawn to | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
the sport. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:13 | |
By the '20s, Charlie Chaplin would recognise | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
its potential for physical comedy. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
While a young Alfred Hitchcock saw how boxing could set | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
the stage for a gripping slice of human drama. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
As a thrilling new era in boxing dawned | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
in the '30s, Hollywood increasingly drew | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
inspiration from what was happening in the real fight game. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
It's an obscure footnote in New York history now that this stretch | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
of sidewalk on West 49th Street between Eighth Avenue | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
and Broadway was once the centre of the boxing universe. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
This legendary patch was known as Jacob's Beach | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
and here is a photo of it in its prime. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
What you can't see here are the shady fight fixers who began | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
to infiltrate boxing in the '30s, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
men like Blinky Palermo and Frankie Carbo. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
But you can see the name Jacobs. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
The Jacobs in question was Mike Jacobs, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
a tickets scalper turned boxing promoter. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
For a time, the fight game was his. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
He set the fight cards over at the nearby Madison Square Garden | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
and he managed the one boxer who excited the public | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
more than any other, Joe Louis, the Brown Bomber. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
MUSIC: "The Boss" by James Brown | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
With Uncle Mike Jacobs at his side, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:23 | |
Louis would become world heavyweight champion. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
Through the depression years, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
he also became an inspiration for Americans | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
as an honest young fighter from rural Alabama, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
who had triumphed over adversity. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
But in the 1930s, no Hollywood studio would dare cast | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
a black American in the lead, even though they wanted to dramatise the ideas | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
Louis embodied of success against the odds and ethnic assimilation. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
Instead, they chose a safer option, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
the figure of the boxing manager and an Italian-American at that. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
Mmm, magnifico! | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
THEY SPEAK ITALIAN | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
I think in Kid Galahad, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
when we see Edward G Robinson embodying the boxing manager Donati, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
he becomes a figure that people can relate to as an immigrant American | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
who is striving, trying to get to the top. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
Slow down! Slow down! | 0:16:20 | 0:16:21 | |
When he wakes up, tell him he's through. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
-You don't mean that. -I mean it plenty. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
When he finds the unlikely figure of a guy from the Midwest, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
a farmhand, big but hopelessly naive character, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
he becomes interested because he sees | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
he's another possibility, that he can make some money out of him. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
How would you like to be a fighter? | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
Why, I never thought much about. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
Let me do the thinking. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
A champion of those times was Joe Louis, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
but filmmakers didn't feel comfortable perhaps because of | 0:16:50 | 0:16:55 | |
commercial considerations trying to sell a black hero on film, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
even though in reality, the champ WAS a black man. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
I'm going to make you heavyweight champion of the world! | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
Come on, beat it! | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
There was no thirst, no hunger at all for black heroes in boxing movies. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
Galahad. That's it, Galahad! From now on we call him Galahad. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Donati is walking that line between the respectability | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
and the underworld. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
The boxing ring dreads that boundary. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
Donati is backing it. Yeah. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
Cue the boxing movie staple of the mob fight fixer, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
here making his formal entrance. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
-He better win. -He will. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
If he don't, you won't be around to talk about it. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
Thanks for the tip. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:43 | |
It's also got an extraordinary performance by Humphrey Bogart. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
Before Bogart started playing good guys, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
here he plays a truly sinister mobster who controls the fight game. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
The temperature drops in the room every time he enters. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
In 1934, Hollywood increased the intensity of its censorship code | 0:18:03 | 0:18:08 | |
so no longer could the gangster be front and centre, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
but the boxing film offered an important avenue in which | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
violence could be represented on screen where the boxer was | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
the chief figure and the gangster was only on the margins. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
Kid Galahad is released only a few weeks before Joe Louis fights | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
and wins the heavyweight title in 1937. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
Warner Brothers was quite specific about packaging Kid Galahad to try | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
to take advantage of this fight that was on the horizon. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
In fact, there are various references to Joe Louis in the film itself. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
At one point, Donati talks about a fighter not being a violin player. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
There isn't any room for feelings in this game. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
A fighter is a machine, not a violin player. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
Joe Louis was associated with violin playing | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
because when he first took up boxing, his mother gave him tuition | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
for his violin lessons, but he went to the boxing gym instead. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
Joe Louis and violin were also the inspiration for Golden Boy, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:06 | |
starring the clearly Caucasian William Holden. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
As eager young prospect Joe Bonaparte, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
he is torn between the spiritual nourishment of music | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
and the seductive rewards of boxing. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
Joe Bonaparte! | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
CHEERING | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
I'd like to see him cut to ribbons. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
His father, a symbol of the Italian community he's leaving behind, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
is appalled at Joe abandoning his art to chase fame and success. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
Money, money. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
We got hearts! We got souls! We got to take care of them, no? | 0:19:36 | 0:19:41 | |
Joe, listen to me. Do what is in your heart, not in your head. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
In there is a muse. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
If the boxing films of the '30s had a caustic streak, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
it became a pitch black bloom of cynicism | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
in the years after World War II. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
That cynicism had its roots in the soldiers who were returning home, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
often wounded physically and psychologically, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
and who found it tough to readjust to civilian life. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
On-screen, it was the age of film noir. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
The cocktail of noir's cruel fatalism | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
and the raw emotion of the fight film | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
made this the golden age of the boxing movie. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
Kill him, Charlie. Kill him! | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
Kill him, Charlie, kill him! | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
And one of the very finest was the powerful, politically radical | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
Body And Soul, starring John Garfield as fighter Charley Davis, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
who turns his back on friends and family to make a Faustian pact | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
with a crooked fight promoter and finds the more he wins in the ring, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
the more he loses out of it. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
Charley Davis goes into the ring | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
assuming that his success fighting can bring security for his family, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:05 | |
only discovering that over the course of time | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
he becomes corrupted in the ring itself. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
Kings of the world, Shorty. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
-Aren't you going to join us? -No. -Why not? | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
What's the matter? | 0:21:15 | 0:21:16 | |
You didn't win the title, Charlie. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
Ben was double-crossed, I promised him an easy go. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
Where do you get that stuff? Who promised who? | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
Ben was sick, he had a blood clot. They all knew. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
-You didn't know that, Charlie, did you? -It's the old alibi, champ. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:33 | |
You get used to it. Let's sit down and celebrate. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
Finally of course at the end he has to make a decision | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
whether he's going to throw this final fight and secure his wealth | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
for the future, or turn his back on that corruption, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
which of course he finally decides to do. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
Congratulations, champ. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
Get yourself a new boy. I retire. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
-What makes you think you can get away with this? -What are you going to do? | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
Kill me? Everybody dies. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
If Body And Soul portrayed the spiritual perils of winning titles, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
another film from the same era would spotlight the scuffed shabby lives | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
of boxing's lower orders. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
In 1949's The Set-Up, the pug at the centre of the story | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
is, like Charley Davis, a worn-out 35-year-old | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
trapped in a sport riddled with fixes. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
Stoker Thompson, the boxer that's played by Robert Ryan, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
is having a crisis with his wife, Julie. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
She can't stand seeing him beaten up | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
and taking physical abuse in the ring because he's at the end | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
of his career, and in fact he's just used largely | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
as a punching bag for up-and-coming fighters. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
Oh, Bill. It ain't I want to hurt you, but what kind of a life is this? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:24 | |
Springfield, Middletown, Unionville, Paradise City. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:29 | |
How many more beatings do you have to take? | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
Julie has decided that she's going to leave Stoker | 0:23:31 | 0:23:36 | |
if he doesn't retire from the ring, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:37 | |
but Stoker is a boxer and so he fights. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
Although his manager has already come to an agreement | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
with the gangster gambler that his fighter's going to lose, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
his manager hasn't told the fighter. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
-You ain't got much time, so listen. You've got to lay down. -Lay down? | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
It's supposed to be in the bag. There's 20 bucks extra for you. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
Maybe 30. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:04 | |
If you explore anybody's life story in boxing, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
if they were any good at all | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
they were asked to take a dive at some point. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
Look, this is Little Boy's fix, Little Boy's. He's paying us. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
-You know Little Boy if you cross him! -You've got to go down, Stoker. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
There were tons of dives, and that's a staple of the boxing movie too. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
Go down on the first good punch, stay down and take a count | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
and let's get out of here. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:28 | |
Stoker of course resists that dive and ends up winning the fight. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
In an ironic way, the gangster's thugs beat him up | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
after the fight is over. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:42 | |
You'll never hit anybody with that hand again. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
Stoker also manages to pull victory from defeat | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
because when the thugs beat him up, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
they break his hands, which means that he can no longer fight, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
but at the end of the film, he's joined by his wife | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
and she sees their marriage can be revived so the film, however grim, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
ends on this positive note of the reunification of the lovers | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
over the ashes, you might say, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
of Stoker's career and his declining body. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
Julie. I won tonight. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
-I won! -Yes, you won tonight, Bill. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
We both won tonight. We both won tonight! | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
At the beginning of The Set-Up, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
a hunched figure in a fedora rings the bell to start the fight. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
Not many watching would realise this was the man | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
whose stark, unforgiving street photography | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
had helped shape film noir. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
The his name was Arthur Fellig, but he was better known as Weegee. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
Someone who would have recognised him | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
was a gifted teenage photographer from the Bronx. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
His name was Stanley Kubrick. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
Kubrick grew up on the other side of the Bronx | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
from Jake LaMotta's place on Pelham Parkway. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
He became a lifelong boxing fan as well as a dedicated photographer. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
The two passions would eventually come together. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
In 1950, he shot some astonishingly intimate photographs | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
of heavyweight champion Rocky Graziano, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
but it was a spread for Look Magazine | 0:26:28 | 0:26:29 | |
on an up and coming contender called Walter Cartier | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
that gave him an idea. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
Could he make a film about this photogenic middleweight? | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
This is the story of a fight and of a fighter. Walter Cartier. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
Today is the fight. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
It's a documentary but in terms of what fight films were | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
in that post-war era, like the first 10-15 years after World War II, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:59 | |
it captured all the classic intersections between noir and boxing. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:04 | |
It's a long way until night. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
It had that notion of boxing just being the ultimate matador sport, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:17 | |
where it's just you. You can't rely on anybody. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
A few moments are left. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
He can almost hear the commissioner coming down the hall to call him. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
Once in the Kubrick movie | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
when it started describing how he's morphing into someone else. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
Walter is slowly becoming another man. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
This is the man who cannot lose, who must not lose. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
You can see this guy's a murder machine. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
The documentary was just the catalyst | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
the ambitious Kubrick needed | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
to launch his career as a serious movie maker. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:04 | |
Kubrick's first feature film was an art house war flick | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
called Fear And Desire. It failed and he tried to bury it. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
He needed something more commercial. A genre picture maybe. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
Something noirish that married murder and boxing might get him noticed. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
The result was Killer's Kiss. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
Even before writing the script, Kubrick methodically put together | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
a checklist of what he thought would sell the flick. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
A boxing match, a damsel seduction, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
a rooftop chase. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
The story that would materialise was one long flashback | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
bookended by a boxer anxiously waiting for his lover | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
so they can both flee New York City. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
I think that's the way it began for me. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
Just before my fight with Rodriguez. Three days ago. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:54 | |
As the picture dissolves into the past, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
the plot which emerges is one where the boxer and a dime-a-dance girl | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
are drawn together as she tries to shake off the attentions | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
of a sleazy dance hall manager. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
You foolish girl, I'm mad about you. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
I want to get you out of here. I'll set you up right. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
Nothing! You couldn't do anything for me. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
Don't forgive me, just tolerate me. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
In the process of telling that tale, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
Kubrick also creates his own intriguing take on film noir. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
Killer's Kiss was one of the most gorgeous films I've ever seen. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
It was an anonymous actor playing an anonymous boxer | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
living out of a suitcase all alone in the world. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
It's about the isolation. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
The same thing as a private eye, you're all alone. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
You have a shabby office with a bottle of Scotch | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
in a bottom drawer and your life amounts to nothing. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
You're living in a fleabag hotel. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
The boxer's a variation on that. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
Kubrick shot the film himself, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
as these wonderful on-location photographs | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
taken by his assistant director Alexander Singer suggests, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
Kubrick was fastidious in capturing the people and the Manhattan | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
he already knew intimately from his time as a documentary photographer. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
Given the movie's noirish flavour, | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
the finale should have found the boxer jilted by his lover | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
but this was to be Kubrick's calling card to the Hollywood studios, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
who would expect a happy ending. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
His plan worked. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
Kubrick sold the film to United Artists | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
and persuaded the studio to bankroll another two features. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
He was now a Hollywood contender. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
In every fighter's life, there comes a time | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
when they have to take off the gloves and walk away from the ring. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
It is the moment where the now ex-boxer will rake over | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
the what-ifs and the might-have-beens. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
One film, one scene, captures that mood | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
of regret and reckoning unforgettably. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
While ostensibly dealing with corruption in New York's docks, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
On The Waterfront has at its emotional centre | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
an ex-boxer played by Marlon Brando | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
still haunted by the fight in which the mob forced him to take a dive. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:17 | |
You remember that night in the Garden you came down | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
to my dressing-room and said, "Kid, this ain't your night. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
"We're going for the price on Wilson." You remember that? | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
"This ain't your night!" My night! I could have taken Wilson apart. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
Life after a fighter stops earning a living in the ring | 0:31:34 | 0:31:39 | |
is vastly unexplored territory in the main. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:44 | |
It doesn't have the dramatic narrative | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
that film-makers are drawn to. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
Maybe it's a story too that fighters themselves don't really want to know about. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
It's not a pretty story. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
Quite a few have never learned anything else. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:02 | |
That is the real tragedy of it. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
So what happens? | 0:32:05 | 0:32:06 | |
He gets the title shot outdoors in the ballpark and what do I get? | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
A one-way ticket to Palookaville. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
You was my brother, Charlie. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
You should have looked out for me a little bit. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
On The Waterfront touches on that in that memorable scene | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
of Terry Malloy in the back of a car with his brother. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
The "I could have been a contender" speech, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
it's just the most incredible reduction of that whole theme. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
I had some bets down for you, you saw some money. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
You don't understand, I could have had class! | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
I could have been a contender! | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
I could have been somebody! | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
Instead of a bum. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
For fighters both on and off the screen, life after the ring | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
could be cruel, as even a champion as celebrated | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
as Joe Louis discovered. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:51 | |
Joe Louis sold his title to the International Boxing Club | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
which was run by Frankie Carbo, Blinky Palermo, Truman Gibson | 0:32:56 | 0:33:01 | |
and various other underworld characters. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:06 | |
Then they recycled it. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
His last fight was dramatic in its own way, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:13 | |
knocked out by Rocky Marciano at Madison Square Garden. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
Knocked through the ropes, laying on his back. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
What happened thereafter, because he'd had mental problems, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
he lost nearly all his money to the Inland Revenue. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
He wrestled for a living for a little while | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
and thereafter things got worse for him. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
He ended up as a greeter at a casino in Las Vegas, Caesars Palace. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
I saw him there and it was the most shocking thing. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
I could hardly believe that was Joe Louis. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
This was the most famous athlete on the planet in the '30s and '40s, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:53 | |
and here he was reduced to shaking hands for a living. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
It encapsulated that journey from the top of the mountain to the bottom. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:02 | |
Pretty much as starkly as anything I've ever seen. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
By the mid '50s, the boxing movie itself would become a has-been. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:16 | |
America was entering a more affluent confident era | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
complete with strutting new heroes like James Dean, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
Elvis Presley and Marlon Brando, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
but the Hollywood studios were in crisis | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
haemorrhaging audiences to TV. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
In 1946, there were 7,000 television sets in the US. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:35 | |
Six years later, there were 22 million. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
And by 1955, competition for the boxing movie | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
arrived in the form of weekly live bouts from Madison Square Garden | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
that drew huge television audiences. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
Yes, the spectacle, the colour, the excitement, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
the human drama of Ben-Hur has swept the world. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:58 | |
The studios fought back by pouring their money into widescreen epics | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
which now focused on a different kind of gladiator. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
It seemed the boxing movie was on the ropes, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
an unwanted relic of the bad old days. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
For 20 years, cinema turned its back on the fight film. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:22 | |
My name is Muhammad Ali and you will announce it right there | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
in the centre of the ring after the fight if you don't do it now. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
America did have a controversial new champion rising to fame | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
in the '60s, but it wouldn't be until the next decade | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
that Muhammad Ali became a boxing immortal. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
What you going to call me? | 0:36:03 | 0:36:08 | |
Having been stripped of his title and suspended from the ring | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
after refusing to fight in Vietnam, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
Ali regained his boxing licence in 1970. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
By early the next year, an eager world was growing feverish | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
with anticipation over what was dubbed the fight of the century. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
Ali bidding to regain his crown against new champion Joe Frazier. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
After 15 visceral grounds, Ali was defeated but for the studios, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
it was a timely reminder of the passions boxing could arouse. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
Between an economic crisis and the war in South East Asia, | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
the America of the early '70s desperately wanted to feel good about itself. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
Fighting to reclaim his status as champion | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
but getting older every day, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
the public were gathering in Ali's corner, but the man responsible | 0:36:52 | 0:36:57 | |
for the boxing movie's comeback was an unknown actor with a script | 0:36:57 | 0:37:02 | |
written in three days. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
The inspiration for his story set here in Philadelphia | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
was an obscure slugger called Chuck Wepner | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
who survived 15 rounds with Ali. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
It turned out to be the best loved boxing movie of them all. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
The no-hoper who became a phenomenon. Cue the music. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
MUSIC: "Gonna Fly Now (Theme from Rocky)" by Bill Conti | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
The writer and star-in-waiting of Rocky was called Sylvester Stallone | 0:37:38 | 0:37:43 | |
and his was a story of redemption. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
When I walked into that Resurrection Hall, | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
and saw that mural of Christ on the wall, I said, "Terrific." | 0:37:50 | 0:37:56 | |
We'll start on that and tilt down and find our hero | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
and if people make the association, couldn't hurt. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
You believe that America is the land of opportunity? | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
Apollo Creed does. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
He's going to prove it to the whole world by giving an unknown | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
a shot at the title. That unknown is you. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
It's the chance of a lifetime. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
You can't pass it by. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
His name is Rocky. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
His whole life was a million-to-one shot. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
I thought of Rocky as a character study and a love story. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:43 | |
The boxing was the background | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
like the Civil War is the background in Gone With The Wind. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
His desire to go the distance | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
and not be just another bum from the neighbourhood | 0:38:52 | 0:38:58 | |
is something very appealing to everybody | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
because we all have that feeling in one way or another. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:07 | |
Nobody's ever gone the distance with Creed. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
If I can go that distance, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
seeing that bell ring and I'm still standing... | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
..I'm going to know for the first time in my life, you see? | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
That I weren't just another bum from the neighbourhood. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
There was something about the process of unrealised dreams. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
I was always brought back to the subject | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
because I think it's one of the most enduring subjects | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
and one of the most difficult passages for people to accept, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
that they never were realised in their own lifetime. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
That they just didn't get that shot. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
He's in a boat! Riding in a boat, is he supposed to be George Washington? | 0:39:51 | 0:39:56 | |
The Apollo Creed character is... | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
an unabashed mirror of Muhammad Ali. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:04 | |
-Is he talking to me? -He's talking to you. -Is he talking to me? | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
Let him talk. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
I want the Stallion! | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
Muhammad Ali was the biggest name in boxing, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
and known around the world, so he took on that persona | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
and Sylvester wrote the character like that. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
Filled with downbeat charm and a heady rush of sentiment, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:30 | |
the film struck a nerve in America and beyond, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
making millions and winning an Oscar for best picture. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
You went the 15 rounds, how do you feel? | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
-What were you thinking about when that buzzer... -Adrian! | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
Adrian! | 0:40:43 | 0:40:44 | |
And for all Rocky's innocence, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
Stallone had proved himself a canny operator. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
Sylvester Stallone said, you know, "I star or you don't get the script." | 0:40:49 | 0:40:55 | |
Rocky! | 0:40:58 | 0:40:59 | |
United Artists had never heard of this guy. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
So, the producers sent them Lords of Flatbush to look at. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:08 | |
So they looked at that and they said, "OK, he's good. We approve." | 0:41:08 | 0:41:15 | |
Now they start looking at dailies. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
Adrian! | 0:41:20 | 0:41:21 | |
And they look at the first few days, and, "Where's Stallone?" | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
"He's there." "No, no, Stallone is blond." | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
When they saw Lords of Flatbush, | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
they thought that Perry King was Stallone. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
So they said yes to Perry King. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
-I love you. -I love you. -I love you. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
On the back of his million-to-one shot, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
Stallone went on to build a franchise of six Rocky films | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
and a movie career now spanning nearly 40 years. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
But the real-life people's champ was also making his comeback | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
and would find himself on the big screen. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
The rise and fall and rise again of Muhammad Ali is an unusual | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
kind of boxing story. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:07 | |
In fight movies the hero rarely gets to enjoy a triumphant third act. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
But then Ali was never the usual kind of boxer. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
One bout more than any other sealed his legend. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
And among the crowd was a documentary maker, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
there to capture every chaotic, mythic moment | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
of the fight they called the Rumble in the Jungle. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
# Do it to death... # | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
I had heard about this project, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
two of the things I loved most, music and boxing. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
A music festival would wrap around the fight. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
The bout would see heavyweight champion George Foreman face | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
the charismatic challenger Ali. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
The man behind it was flamboyant promoter Don King who had | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
struck a deal with President Mobutu of Zaire to bankroll the fight. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:03 | |
The whole world was focused on that fight. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
It wasn't in America, it was the Rumble in the Jungle in Africa. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:11 | |
Even watching the movie, When We Were Kings, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
brings you into a foreign place. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
Don King hired director Leon Gast to film the musical acts | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
that would be the support for the main event. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
The fight was supposed to happen the end of September, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
George Foreman was injured, it was delayed 30 days, | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
and the whole concept of the film changed. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
The delay meant Leon Gast suddenly found himself with | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
time on his hands and, crucially, unique, close-up access | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
to the most electric fighter in boxing history. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
There was something about Ali that just his presence, | 0:43:52 | 0:43:59 | |
and how he was conscious of the camera, | 0:43:59 | 0:44:06 | |
but in a way different than anybody I had ever worked with. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
Sucker, you ain't nothing. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
He'd look at the cameraman, he'd do things like, "You a good cameraman? | 0:44:16 | 0:44:21 | |
"You think you can follow me? | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
"No, I'm here, no, I'm not there, I'm here." | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
I'm dancing, follow me. No, I'm not there, I'm here. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
Nixon had resigned, and it became part of his poetry. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:38 | |
If you think the world was surprised when Nixon resigned... | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
Wait till I kick Foreman's behind. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
It happened, like, from one day to the next day. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
Hospitalise a brick. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
I'm so mean, I make medicine sick. Bad. Fast. Fast. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:55 | |
Fast! Last night I cut the light off my bedroom, hit the switch, | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
was in the bed before the room was dark. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
Before, prize fighters never gave you more than, | 0:45:00 | 0:45:04 | |
I want to say hello to my mum and all the people back in Allentown Pennsylvania. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:09 | |
I'm going to eat him up. Too much speed for him. Too fast. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:14 | |
He's the king, and he's never been to Africa before. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:18 | |
Everybody's coming from all the villages to see him, | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
to run with him. To call out his name. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
And to see this great man, they just want to see him and touch him. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:28 | |
There he is. Bomaye. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
-ALL: -Ali, bomaye. Ali, bomaye. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
This chant that he heard at the airport, | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
that he picked up immediately on. He said, "What does that mean?" | 0:45:38 | 0:45:43 | |
And the kid said, "Ali, kill him." | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
Ali, bomaye. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:47 | |
He made it so I think George felt like he was the outsider. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:55 | |
Eventually the fight went ahead on October 30th, 1974 | 0:45:58 | 0:46:03 | |
in a stadium in the capital Kinshasa before a crowd of 60,000. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:08 | |
Ali's strategy was to exhaust the lumbering Foreman. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:13 | |
By the eighth round, he was able to deliver the knockout blow | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
and reclaim his crown. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
Three, four, five, six, seven, eight... | 0:46:26 | 0:46:33 | |
But disaster struck for Gast | 0:46:34 | 0:46:35 | |
when his footage became ensnared in a legal dispute. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
It would be more than 20 years before he could show the finished | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
documentary which now had a significant historical perspective. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
We brought it to Sundance, | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
and there were parts in the film where people applauded. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:58 | |
It was just a perfect audience, and then the film won an Academy Award. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:06 | |
It was incredible. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
Then, in 2001, Will Smith | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
had the unenviable task of impersonating Ali. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
There's been an accidental injury to George Foreman in training. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
The truth is, George knocked himself out. That's right. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:26 | |
He did three rounds, realised he was going to lose to Muhammad Ali, | 0:47:26 | 0:47:30 | |
and knocked himself out. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:32 | |
That's right, I'm a bad man. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:35 | |
It turned out certain characters were just too big for any actor. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:41 | |
All of you, I know you got him. I know you got him picked. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
But the man's in trouble, I'm going to show you how great I am. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:48 | |
But a shadow falls over every fighter, | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
Muhammad Ali's Parkinson's disease would later be accelerated | 0:47:53 | 0:47:57 | |
by the hard knocks of the ring. | 0:47:57 | 0:47:59 | |
Boxers must always get acquainted with brutality. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
For all its craft and artistry, boxing is violence. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
There is a darkness to the sport. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
Even the most realistic of filmmakers shy away from it. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
It would be documentary makers, and one notorious | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
slugger in particular, who would take us ringside and force us | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
to confront some of the fight game's more unpalatable truths. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
Director James Toback realised the garish, grisly life of former | 0:48:32 | 0:48:36 | |
heavyweight champion Mike Tyson was a story waiting to be told | 0:48:36 | 0:48:41 | |
and that a documentary about him | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
would make compelling, if uneasy viewing. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
There was a sense, with Tyson which you did not have with anybody else, | 0:48:46 | 0:48:50 | |
that he was out to kill his opponent, not to knock him out. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:55 | |
Not to hurt him, not to humiliate him, to kill him. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
-TYSON: -One, two, three punches. I'm throwing punches. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:03 | |
He goes down, he's out. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
Literally, I'm going to run across the ring | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
and come as close to killing you as I can with my gloves on. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:12 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -Everything Tyson does is intimidating. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
The most vivid one was Michael Spinks who stood there in the ring | 0:49:17 | 0:49:22 | |
looking as if he wanted to make a deal right there. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
I'll lose in the first round, I'll get knocked out in the first round | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
if you promise me I won't be in the hospital for three weeks. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
He looked like a guy who literally was walking to a slaughterhouse. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
It's like he wants to get his knuckles closer to the leather | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
so he can get them on somebody's face. Namely Mike Spinks. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:45 | |
As he says in the movie, he took his own fear and imposed it on them. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
He transplanted it into their brain. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
While I'm in the dressing room, five minutes before I come out, | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
my gloves are laced up. I'm breaking my gloves down, | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
and pushing the leather in the back of my gloves. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
I'm breaking the middle of the gloves so my knuckle can pierce through. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
It's very interesting to me the way that's worked up in the film | 0:50:02 | 0:50:06 | |
where he talks about as he's walking into the ring it's culminating. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
All during my training, I've been afraid of this man. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
I thought this man might be capable of beating me. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
But the closer I get to the ring, I'm more confident. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
Once I'm in the ring, I'm a god. No-one can beat me. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
By the time he gets in the ring, that's it, it's over. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
I now know I'm going to terrify you, and I'm going to destroy you. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:27 | |
I keep my eyes on him, I keep my eyes on him, I keep my eyes on him. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:31 | |
Then once I see a chink in his armour, boom. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:33 | |
If one of his eyes make a move, then I know I have him. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
Me and Tyson was, you could say, on that journey to meet each other. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:43 | |
Didn't know when, but we knew we were going to meet each other. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:48 | |
At one time, I didn't think we were going to fight | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
because he spent three years in incarceration. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
He came out, and he was supposed to fight me straightaway, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:58 | |
but he decided on fighting Evander Holyfield. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
-TYSON: -1997, rematch, Evander Holyfield. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
First round began. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:06 | |
All of a sudden, he bit Holyfield's ear. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
I bit him. He got mad, he turned around. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
I was thinking, "Wow, that's shocking. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
"We're gladiators, who bites in the ring?" | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
-TYSON: -When I lost my composure, the worst thing a warrior, | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
a soldier can ever do is lose their discipline. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
And people were saying, | 0:51:24 | 0:51:25 | |
"Oh, no. They're never going to let him fight again." | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
So we didn't think that fight was going to come off with me and him. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
And then all of a sudden the fight was on. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:34 | |
Poetically enough, the two fights are joined together, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
not at the hip, but at the teeth of Mike Tyson who ended the first | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
one by biting Evander Holyfield in the ring, | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
and almost ended this one by biting Lennox Lewis at a news conference. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
-TYSON: -I was just walking up towards him, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
and I walked up kind of brazen and hard. I guess that intimidated him. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
I was on the bottom, Tyson was on the bottom | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
and then I felt a pain in my leg. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
I was like looking down where the pain is. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
And Tyson was looking up at me like that, and he bit my leg. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
And I knew that was a part of his intimidation structure. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
It wasn't working. With me, I've been there and done that. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
You draw the first blood, you bit me on the leg, | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
now I'm going to win the war. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:17 | |
COMMENTATOR: He's doing a good job. You can't take that from him. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:22 | |
# I can feel it coming in the air tonight... # | 0:52:26 | 0:52:30 | |
Long after Tyson's boxing career was over, | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
Hollywood was still happy to trade on his violent reputation. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
Even persuading him to play it for laughs. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
ALL: Oh, Lord. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
Oh, Jesus. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
Why did you do that? | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
One of the ironies, I suppose, about Hollywood's love affair with boxing, | 0:52:50 | 0:52:55 | |
boxing is Hollywood's dirty secret. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
It is sort of addicted to boxing. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
It's always drawn back to the subject, | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
and yet you have to ask yourself how honest it is about that subject | 0:53:02 | 0:53:08 | |
because it glamorises violence in a way that works as drama. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:13 | |
For all the fight game's ambiguous morality, | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
the film business always returns to the boxing movie, | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
tweaking the formula to keep audiences interested. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
Million Dollar Baby tells the story of a young, | 0:53:26 | 0:53:29 | |
working-class woman played by Hilary Swank | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
who, under the paternal eye of her trainer Clint Eastwood, | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
looks to build a better life through boxing. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
At first glance, it seemed women might at last | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
be accepted in the ring. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:42 | |
Hold it. Hold it. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
-I'll show you a few things, and then we'll get you a trainer. -No, sorry. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:52 | |
-You're in a position to negotiate? -Yes, sir. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
Because I know if you train me right, I'm going to be a champ. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
I think Million Dollar Baby | 0:53:58 | 0:54:00 | |
wants to be a film about female empowerment, | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
but in important kinds of ways it really isn't. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
On the one hand it's celebrating the evolution of Hilary Swank, | 0:54:04 | 0:54:08 | |
and it's celebrating her grit, her determination, her heart, | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
which is how the film talks about it. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
She's a better fighter than you are. That's why. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
She's younger, she's stronger, and she's more experienced. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
Now, what are you going to do about it? | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
Ultimately, really a film about Clint Eastwood. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
It's about his character's development, | 0:54:29 | 0:54:31 | |
his character's anxieties, his character's need for redemption. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
I've made a lot of mistakes in my life, | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
-I'm just trying to keep you from doing the same. -I know, boss. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
-I'm not going to live for ever. -What is it? | 0:54:42 | 0:54:44 | |
It's a tape on that girl in England you're going to fight. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
If you're going to go for the title, we've got some... | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
Hey, get the hell down. How old I am... | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
She's actually quite a static character. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:55 | |
She knows exactly what she wants, and that's all she wants. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
And he's the one who changes, | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
he's the one we're encouraged to sympathise with, to identify with. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
It's suggesting that women really don't belong in the boxing ring. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
The most important way in which it suggests that is that she ends up | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
a quadriplegic and she dies. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
I'm going to disconnect your air machine. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
And you're going to go to sleep. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
And I'll give you a shot and you'll stay asleep. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:26 | |
So to say that this is a celebration of women breaking new ground | 0:55:26 | 0:55:31 | |
or showing they can do things they have never done before, | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
well, not if they actually die in the end. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
We're supposed to admire her, and then put her away when she dies, | 0:55:37 | 0:55:41 | |
and then feel very sorry for his tragic loss rather than hers. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:45 | |
Nonetheless, for her role in Million Dollar Baby, | 0:55:45 | 0:55:49 | |
Hilary Swank went on to win one of the film's four Academy Awards. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
And in 2010, Hollywood once more raided real life | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
for its source material with The Fighter. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
This time redemption beckons for contender Micky Ward | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
played by Mark Wahlberg | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
and his crack addicted stepbrother played by Christian Bale | 0:56:07 | 0:56:11 | |
in another Oscar-winning performance. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
I don't need to be Columbo to see where this fight is headed. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
A right-hand puts Micky Ward down. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
These people are making a movie on me and my comeback and my brother | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
is going to be in Atlantic City next week. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:31 | |
The pride of Lowell is back. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
After 120 years of boxing movies, the passion of filmmakers | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
for the fight game shows no sign of waning. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
The fighter who summed it up best for me, | 0:56:44 | 0:56:48 | |
and did it in a really simple way, was Frank Bruno. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:53 | |
He called it show business with blood. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
It's a show, it's a business, there's blood. It's all a package. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:59 | |
It has run in tandem with film from day one. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
They have been so linked, like a marriage. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:09 | |
They've had their fallings out, they get back together again. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:13 | |
And there will always be boxing, and there will always be movies | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
and there will always be boxing movies. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
I think there's a real future in the boxing movie | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
because unfortunately we're heading back into the same problems | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
that the Great Depression was dealing with. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
So, I think, if anything, it's going to become very topical once again. | 0:57:27 | 0:57:32 | |
It's going to seem like an obvious way to symbolise | 0:57:32 | 0:57:35 | |
the individual battling against society. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
The secret of the boxing movie is that we are the boxer. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
We are Rocky Balboa, setting out alone into the Philadelphia dawn. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:05 | |
Stoker Thompson craving the big-time. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:09 | |
Sometimes even Jake LaMotta, lost in his own fury. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:13 | |
We all have moments where life feels like a gruelling struggle | 0:58:13 | 0:58:17 | |
against a ruthless opponent. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:19 | |
If boxing gives that struggle order, | 0:58:19 | 0:58:21 | |
divides it into three-minute rounds with judges to keep score, | 0:58:21 | 0:58:24 | |
then the boxing film roots it in a story and invests it with meaning. | 0:58:24 | 0:58:29 | |
Because what echoes through the boxing movie is the idea | 0:58:34 | 0:58:37 | |
that the real test isn't how you throw a punch, but how you take one. | 0:58:37 | 0:58:41 | |
When the fixers say, "Tonight is your night, kid." | 0:58:41 | 0:58:44 | |
Do you go down? When the other fighter has his arm raised | 0:58:44 | 0:58:47 | |
and the count is at seven, eight, nine, do you get back up? | 0:58:47 | 0:58:52 | |
Even when the final bell has faded, | 0:58:52 | 0:58:54 | |
like Martin Scorsese said, the ring is everywhere. | 0:58:54 | 0:58:58 | |
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