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Welcome to Wanted Down Under, the show that catapults a British family to the other side of the world

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to help them make the biggest decision of their life -

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whether to stay in the UK or to move to Australia.

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Sally Mills has always wanted to emigrate to Australia.

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It's so beautiful here and I just really wanted to work here.

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She's travelled there before and is drawn to the warm climate and outdoor life.

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Husband, Jem, is not so sure.

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Having built a successful psychotherapy business in the UK, he's worried about risking it all.

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If I couldn't work as a therapist in Australia, it wouldn't work for me.

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They get the taste of the beauty and luxury of the Australian dream.

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My goodness - this is amazing!

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-Wow!

-Wow!

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It's like a big fairy tale, really.

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But Jem is forced to face harsh realities on the work front.

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It would involve going back to the salary that I was on years ago.

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-The figures just don't add up.

-It would be very difficult to consider the move, I think.

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You can't live the dream if you can't afford to pay for it.

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You're almost scared to look, scared to open up your eyes to the kind of life we could have here.

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I don't know where I am with it - it's all up in the air.

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Will the fairy tale have an unhappy ending?

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Around 150 people a day migrate to Australia in search of a better life.

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And anyone who's under the age of 45 and on the skills shortage list

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could be heading down under at the head of the queue.

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But for all these families, how hard is the decision and do they find what they are looking for?

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We've given another British family

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the opportunity to spend a week down under,

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to see if it's all they've dreamt it would be.

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After that, they'll have to make a decision one way or the other -

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to stay in the UK or to move to Australia.

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Sally and Jem Mills live in Eastbourne with their three children,

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Jevon, nine, Rowan, five and Hannah, who's four.

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Sally visited Australia as a backpacker 16 years ago.

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I know I love it and I know I would probably, as long as the family are happy, move there tomorrow.

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But I am concerned about Jem a little bit.

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Both Sally and Jem work as psychotherapists - they've built up a successful business from scratch.

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I feel a massive emotional attachment to the business.

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There's something special about having an idea,

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seeing it in your mind's eye, and then, over a period of years, watching it come to fruition.

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And because of that, it would be a very hard thing to leave.

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We are very, very happy and proud of what we've achieved through the work we do.

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And it would be... It's a big thing to take him away from that.

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Sally's not one for sitting around. She's been researching a potential move for months,

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and has already found a place to stay on an internet house-exchange website.

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The people with this gorgeous house, really lovely house,

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they're coming to travel round Europe and spend some time in the UK.

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-They're architects.

-Yeah, they've built this house themselves.

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And they've just said, "Come on, come over and stay in our house."

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Jem has never been to Australia before

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but he is keen to test the water.

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Sally is the main driver for this whole thing, really. She's been before.

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I'm a bit fearful, way there at the back, possibly,

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that we'll just end up with an OK lifestyle.

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That it'll be a big move, we'll be away from friends and family,

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and the lifestyle isn't going to be enough of a kind of draw

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to really sit back of an evening and think, "Gosh, that really was the right move for us."

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To make the move, it's got to be better than we already have.

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The Mills have a lot to lose so what will they decide?

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16 years ago, Sally fell in love with Byron Bay, so that's where they are considering starting a new life.

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Byron Bay is a beachside town, roughly 100 miles south of Brisbane,

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and is the easternmost point of mainland Australia.

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Back in the '60s, its amazing surf breaks and beaches were discovered by surfers,

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and the town soon built up a reputation as an alternative destination.

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The Mills will be looking for a spacious four-bedroom house here to fit their £450,000 budget,

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as long as they can also find good work.

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Byron Bay has a variety of lifestyles on offer.

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We've put together three that might suit the Mills.

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Let's take a look at the first option.

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The town of Byron Bay has grown in recent years,

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and there's a big alternative therapy scene here.

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But there are already many psychotherapists in town

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and opening a brand new business would be highly competitive,

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so they may struggle to match their combined UK salary of £55,000.

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House prices are expensive.

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A three-bedroom town house like this costs around £450,000,

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which is just within their budget but doesn't offer the space they're after.

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So, very different from their life in the UK.

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So what about the second option?

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The rolling hills of Byron County are stunning,

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and the Mills would love the spacious properties with big gardens

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but that dream home could be way beyond their budget.

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This spectacular four-bedroom home is a beautiful example of rural, open-plan living,

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but it doesn't come cheap.

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You'd have to pay around £850,000 to buy it.

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Smaller houses within budget will be available but they have to shop around.

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Living out here means the Mills would have to commute for up to an hour.

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All very nice if you can afford it.

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What about the third option?

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The coastal options around Byron County are many,

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and will provide the Mills with a family-friendly alternative

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to Byron Bay's bustling streets.

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There may be opportunities to start a business here eventually

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but to begin with, Jem would need to find a salaried mental health job,

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which would pay around £30,000.

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Work would be an hour's commute away.

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The Mills could buy a four-bedroom house here for £400,000.

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If their new business took off, they could afford something like this,

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which is on the market for half a million.

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So, three very different lifestyle options

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but the Mills have found their own place to stay.

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They've chosen the coastal town of Lennox Head.

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With its great beach and quiet atmosphere,

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they hope they will be able to settle in and meet new friends.

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We've got some properties for them to look around.

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Wow! Look at that view!

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We've set up some meetings with mental health professionals, so they can assess their opportunities.

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But they have a tough week ahead, as they try to make the biggest decision of their lives.

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I don't want to invite the idea of moving to Australia in at the moment,

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because we've not made our mind up.

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The journey from London takes 3 flights and 27 hours.

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The Mills finally touch down in the Gold Coast at 9:15am local time.

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They've spent months arranging this trip and it's finally happening.

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My main goals are to see if my husband and the family like Australia. I hope they will.

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I felt really good flying in.

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When we touched down in Sydney, I just felt, this is so great, it felt so right.

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Jem is keen to make up his own mind.

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What I'm really looking forward to finding out this week is what the work prospects are like,

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whether the Lennox Head area that we're staying in

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is going to be a community that we really feel we could be part of.

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It is important that if we move out here, that what we have here can really feel like home.

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Tired!

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The Mills are on their way to Lennox Head,

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two hours' drive from the Gold Coast and an hour south of Byron Bay,

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their temporary new home is ready and waiting.

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Sally has been in communication with designer and homeowner, Melina Pandelides,

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to arrange the house exchange.

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To pick this time of year, and especially today, to arrive - it's just going to blow them away.

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Because it's even blowing me away - it's just the most incredible day.

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This design is based on a Japanese idea

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in which separate buildings containing bedrooms and studio spaces

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are linked together with walkways and conservatories.

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The result is a spacious, calm environment.

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This house recently won an Australian Home of the Year award.

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In the UK, a place like this might run into millions.

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In Lennox Head, it's valued at approximately £800,000.

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Jem and Sally couldn't afford somewhere like this to start with,

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but it will give them a great springboard to explore the area.

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As the Mills arrive, they're full of anticipation.

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Sally has been in contact with Melina for months but never actually met.

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Very exciting. We've had a lot of e-mail correspondence together, got to know each other really well.

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I feel a real sense that we do know each other really well, but this is actually the first time we've met.

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I'm really looking forward to meeting them.

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I'm a little bit nervous about it,

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but we're all very excited about meeting them.

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Hello. It's so nice to meet you!

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I feel like we've already met.

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Your house is beautiful.

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Melina and Phil are off on holiday themselves, but just have time to show the Mills around.

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So, this is the link.

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Pool.

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And as you can see, it's fenced off.

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It's so lovely.

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-I wouldn't think of swimming in the pool now but you guys might.

-Definitely will!

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The spacious design immediately chimes with Jem's love of the Orient.

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It feels very Zen-like to me, the garden, is that the influence?

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Yes, directly from Japanese modular concept.

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It's all on a grid module matrix.

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I really love the way you can't tell whether you're inside or outside, wherever you are in the house.

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It's absolutely perfect.

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Melina and Phil have a whole wing to themselves.

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This is the bedroom, master bedroom, the parents' retreat.

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-I love that term that you use in Australia.

-It's not used in Britain?

-No.

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It conjures up all sorts of ideas of things we haven't had for a while.

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-It's nice when a view is framed, isn't it?

-Oh, it's just... Yes.

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-There's a bottle of wine missing from there.

-It's in the fridge!

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LAUGHTER

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-OK, and this is the master bedroom.

-Lovely!

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I hope you guys don't mind light in the morning.

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Actually...

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These blinds come down, but they're translucent. So you can never really block out the light.

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-A nice cup of tea for me waiting.

-That's the deal.

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Melina specialises in top-notch bathrooms with those added extras.

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-A bath with a view.

-It's like a big egg.

-Yeah, isn't it?

-Where did you get the bath from?

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From Bali.

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Not the local furniture shop, then?

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I've never seen a water plane before.

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-They're OK. But you can't leave it on for too long, because it's a bit slow in drainage.

-OK.

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So it's more beautiful than efficient,

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but it's all about the look!

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This is very important.

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Whenever I design bathrooms, I always try to design a loo with a view.

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So, this is a loo with a view of a 200-year-old ficus.

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I was quite jealous about it because, for a guy, this is great, he gets the view, right?

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That's why I put the mirror here, so that when we're on the loo, we can still get a reflection.

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-Very clever.

-That is clever, isn't it?

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At the other end of the house, their children have a large space of their own.

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So this is the... Well, this is Clay's wing now - now that she is an only girl, an only child.

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Our two boys are out of the home, so this is pretty much her space.

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With this amazing home, the Mills have really landed on their feet.

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Have fun. And you look after my cats, too, OK?

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Their newest friends are off on an adventure of their own, leaving Sam and Jem to settle in.

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Take care, bye-bye.

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-24 hour flight and...

-It's been about 40 hours we've been travelling for, isn't it?

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I'd be blown away if I was really fresh coming to a place like this.

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On the back of that kind of journey, where you feel a bit weird anyway...

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Just to have this kind of beauty,

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it's kind of blown me away.

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Yeah.

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It's like a big fairy tale, really.

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This is just the beginning,

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but how long will the fairy tale last?

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Back in the UK, the Mills have a three-bedroom townhouse in an upmarket district of Eastbourne.

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But it's just not big enough for their growing family and they'd love a bit more space.

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In Australia, they are looking for a four- or five-bedroom house,

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and have a budget of up to £450,000, depending on employment and what they can get for their property at home.

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Property one is a four-bedroom house on a quiet estate

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and is on the market at £325,000, well within budget.

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It has an immediate impact on Rowan...

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I think it's very good.

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..but Sally isn't so sure.

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It's not the kind of house we'd go for from the outside, really, is it?

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It's kind of, lots of bricks.

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Let's have a look in the bedroom.

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So, is this the main bedroom?

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-I guess it probably is.

-It's quite small, isn't it?

-Yeah. Smaller than what we'd be used to.

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Looks like they're not really using this room.

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The main reception is spacious, if nothing else.

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It looks very formal, doesn't it?

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-It does.

-No character in here at all.

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-It feels a bit like a village hall, in a way.

-This room?

-It's a bit soulless.

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Hopefully the kids' bedrooms will be more to their taste.

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Wow! Do you see the fairies? Bet you love this room, don't you, Rowan?

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I don't really like it. There's girls' stuff.

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Boys don't really like girls' stuff.

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The thing that I like is this.

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I like this

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but I don't like all the other stuff.

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Will the all-important garden change their minds?

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I've just realised - what else is missing?

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-Swimming pool.

-Oh, yeah. No swimming pool.

-No room to build a swimming pool.

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-You could dig there but then you'd lose your football pitch.

-We've got to have a swimming pool.

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-Mum says we've got to have a swimming pool!

-It's essential.

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So, I don't know.

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That means this one's probably out. Yeah.

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The simple red brick house is hardly the luxury the Mills have become accustomed to.

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I guess because we've stayed in Australia's favourite home,

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anything we look at today is obviously not going to come up to that level.

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But we wouldn't expect it to.

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There's beautiful houses in England we can't live in, because we can't afford them. That's life.

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Australia's favourite home, would be our favourite home, too.

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Rowan's also decided this house isn't for him, after all.

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-I hate this house.

-You hate this house?

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Rowan, hate is not a very nice word. You don't like it but we don't have to say hate, do we?

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Perhaps property two might give them what they want.

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It's a four-bedroom house plus study and has a pool and garden.

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It's on the market

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for around £450,000, right on budget

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but they would both need to have jobs or run a profitable business to afford it.

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-I love it. It's really unusual, isn't it?

-Now, this house makes the last one look ugly.

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-Yes. It does.

-It's so beautiful.

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It does. It's beautiful.

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This is much more to their taste, but will the interior match their expectations?

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-Let's have a look.

-Oh, this is more us, isn't it?

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Definitely.

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With three massive living spaces and a high-spec finish, surely this house will do the trick.

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Wow!

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-This is a nice family room, isn't it?

-It is a nice family room.

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Again, you've got the kitchen and... Look at that television!

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-It's like a cinema!

-I'm disappointed that I like it.

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-Cos it's huge!

-It's not you at all.

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It's not me at all, but I'm thinking, that's really...

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-I love this window.

-Great.

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-Wow! This is a balcony. Is that safe?

-I think so.

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Looks pretty safe. ..Don't play with other people's stuff.

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It's another nice sitting area, isn't it? Oh, this is beautiful.

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Now, that's all right, isn't it?

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That's lovely. A balcony, too. This is gorgeous!

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-A bathroom!

-Look!

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So I guess you'd get evening sun here.

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Yeah, I guess you would.

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The Mills can't wait to get outside and explore the exotic garden.

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It's like a jungle.

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-Yeah!

-Yeah! Oh, this is nice.

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This pool area is just like the pool area we imagined

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because I want somewhere where we can sit like this

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-and they can just play and we can kind of just be together.

-This is what I had in mind.

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-BIRD SINGS

-Did you hear that? What was that?

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-No idea.

-Gorgeous!

-Some wild bird.

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-I love that nature's so close to where you are.

-Yes, right in the middle of it.

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And I imagine, of an evening, that would be even more atmospheric.

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-Wouldn't it be lovely?

-It's so tropical, isn't it? All the plants and...

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The beautiful outdoor space has sparked the whole family's imagination.

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It's good for playing pelican chess. Check, pelican!

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With a home like this, the Mills' dream could become a reality.

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It's time for property number three.

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This is a four-bedroom house on the same road as the house they are staying in.

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It's on the market

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for over £500,000, and is over the Mills' budget.

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But they want to see what may be possible if they can settle in and build a successful business.

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Not many properties have a bridge to the front door.

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Wow! Look at that! You can see straight through the door.

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Wow! Look at that view.

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Unbelievable.

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It's gorgeous.

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This house seems to suit their taste.

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Why wouldn't it?

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Balcony!

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Oh, my goodness. This is amazing.

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Don't touch it.

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-Don't touch the balls. Look at that.

-Just incredible, isn't it?

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-Wow!

-Wow! This is amazing.

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This is such a nice, big space, isn't it?

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-Look at the kitchen. Isn't it lovely?

-Really good.

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It's really gorgeous.

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Jem and Sally seem to be blown away by this home's slick and contemporary finish.

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But is it really a family home?

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In the master bedroom, there's a romantic theme.

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-I don't think we would be that obvious.

-No.

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-That would probably have to go.

-If we had a bit of an argument or something.

0:20:050:20:09

-Yes!

-I'm having a bath and I'm putting the blind down!

0:20:090:20:13

I'm taking the "love" away as well!

0:20:130:20:15

Shall we go down and see the garden?

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It's wonderful.

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-Barbecue, look.

-Up the hill!

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Despite the lack of a pool, there's communal land at the back of the house for the kids to run around.

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For Jem, the stylish properties have opened his eyes to the potential of Australian culture.

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One thing I was concerned about coming over here was that it's a relatively young country.

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That maybe there's a lack of depth of culture and stuff.

0:20:400:20:44

But I think one thing I've realised is,

0:20:440:20:47

there's a huge amount of creativity, a lot of richness of ideas and community,

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that I maybe wasn't expecting.

0:20:530:20:55

I think there's areas within Australia that are as you imagine them to be -

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quite suburban and, dare I say, soulless.

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But there's something really special about this area around Byron and Lennox Head.

0:21:040:21:08

I think it's quite different to stereotypical Australia.

0:21:080:21:11

-It's quite special.

-It is a very special area.

-A special place.

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Although they are excited by possibilities in the area,

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the Mills have still got their feet firmly on the ground.

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This is the top end of our price range.

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-It depends what kind of work we get.

-Yeah.

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At this stage, we don't know how that's going to pay, how much work we are going to be able to get,

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whether we're able to do some private practice,

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-which would support an income to help us to do that.

-Yeah.

0:21:330:21:37

The Mills have seen three very different properties

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and have been inspired by the impressive design and architecture.

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So, how will they vote on property?

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So, we've been looking at properties in Australia today.

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Now, it's time for us to decide.

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And we're going to vote...

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Australia!

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Those properties really whet the Mills' appetite

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but they've got to get the kind of work to pay for that dream lifestyle.

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So, are they going to find it?

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Back in the UK, Jem and Sally run a successful psychotherapy business.

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They specialise in cognitive behavioural therapy or CBT.

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I absolutely love my job.

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Really, really do. It's kind of...

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It sounds like a corny cliche, but a lot of the time,

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it feels like a privilege to be in the situations that we are in.

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But it is their original nursing training that will provide the entrance visa.

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In Australia, without degrees in psychology, they are not qualified to practise psychotherapy.

0:22:490:22:55

The work thing is the real thing for me, with him

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and I'm just wondering, these difficulties with recognising nurses doing cognitive behavioural therapy,

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whether he's going to feel that he fits in there.

0:23:050:23:07

Jem hopes his CV is good enough to buck the system.

0:23:070:23:10

If I couldn't work as a therapist in Australia,

0:23:100:23:14

it wouldn't work for me.

0:23:140:23:16

He'd love to build his CBT business down under,

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but, initially, he'd like the security of a salary while the family settle in.

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He's come to meet Richard Buss, the head of mental health services in the area.

0:23:260:23:31

-Jem, hi, pleased to meet you. Richard Buss.

-Thanks very much for your time.

0:23:310:23:35

That's all right. Welcome to the north coast. A long way from home!

0:23:350:23:39

It's a large facility, for the whole area.

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We've got 48 beds here, community mental health and area mental health.

0:23:410:23:45

Jem knows only too well what's at stake.

0:23:450:23:48

We've only been here a couple of days, but everything's so lovely and so perfect.

0:23:500:23:54

I was worried that I was going to find something that would be a deal breaker.

0:23:540:23:59

And I suppose this could be it, really.

0:23:590:24:03

Jem, I've been looking at your CV, which you kindly sent us, so thanks very much.

0:24:030:24:08

Great experience,

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a very different experience than a traditional pathway that a nurse in mental health would take here.

0:24:090:24:15

Jem's keen to impress.

0:24:150:24:17

I personally think it's very important to feel like I can contribute to my fullest extent.

0:24:170:24:24

One of the things that I'm really keen on is professional development,

0:24:240:24:28

just trying to be the best mental health worker you can be.

0:24:280:24:32

But will Richard be able to help him?

0:24:320:24:34

Mostly, cognitive behavioural therapy is being done by psychologists.

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So, I think the thing is, if you were to look at a job here,

0:24:390:24:44

you would probably be going into a nursing role,

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and then using your skills and your CBT skills in that role, in nursing,

0:24:470:24:51

as opposed to being employed as a psychotherapist, to begin with.

0:24:510:24:54

That's a huge blow.

0:24:540:24:57

Being a nurse will not only result in a cut in salary, to around £30,000,

0:24:570:25:02

he'd also have to work shifts.

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It would be much more of a struggle than he had hoped.

0:25:050:25:08

That would involve going back to ways of working, and in some cases, the salary that I was on years ago.

0:25:080:25:13

I haven't worked shifts for 14 years.

0:25:130:25:15

I think the biggest challenge for Jem would be fitting back into the system,

0:25:150:25:19

and back into a nursing role,

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and then implementing and introducing his ideas around CBT to an acute care team.

0:25:210:25:27

That would be the biggest challenge.

0:25:270:25:29

If we had everything else in place, but I was doing work that I didn't find exciting and energising,

0:25:290:25:37

then it would be very difficult to consider the move, I think.

0:25:370:25:41

# Opportunities available in all walks of life in Australia... #

0:25:410:25:46

Sally's trying to forget her worries about Jem.

0:25:460:25:51

She's taken the kids shopping in Byron Bay. She was last here 16 years ago.

0:25:510:25:57

When I was here as a backpacker, it was great that it was hippified

0:26:010:26:04

cos that was where I was at then.

0:26:040:26:06

But now I've got a family, it's kind of really lovely to know that it's more family focused now.

0:26:060:26:11

That makes me even more excited about the whole idea of moving out here. So that's great.

0:26:110:26:16

She's doing some research of her own,

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to find out if their ultimate goal of opening a private practice might be possible.

0:26:190:26:24

Catherine Chugg has a successful psychotherapy practice in Byron Bay.

0:26:240:26:28

Would you mind telling me a little bit about what would perhaps be the main challenges for us,

0:26:280:26:34

coming into the Byron Bay area to set up a private practice in psychotherapy?

0:26:340:26:40

It would be building a reputation, going to meet GPs and being really clear and specific what you do.

0:26:400:26:47

It's finding the right way to get known.

0:26:470:26:49

Sure, it is. You've just got to go out there and meet different people,

0:26:490:26:53

-speak to people like yourself and get some leads and make some contacts, really.

-Yeah.

0:26:530:26:58

I don't want to be rude or anything, but is it OK to ask a little bit about our earning potential,

0:26:580:27:03

perhaps the charges that you may have for clients?

0:27:030:27:06

Generally, people in this area, they don't want to pay more than, you know, 100 bucks an hour.

0:27:060:27:12

It's not like a city, where you can charge 150 or 200 an hour. It's...

0:27:120:27:18

You have to be mindful of the economic status of people here.

0:27:180:27:22

Of course you do. OK.

0:27:220:27:24

Byron Bay is a highly competitive environment. So opening a practice straightaway would be risky.

0:27:240:27:30

I just don't think we're going to be able to match what we have already.

0:27:300:27:33

We have got our own business in the UK.

0:27:330:27:36

It's successful.

0:27:360:27:38

We've got great people we work with.

0:27:380:27:40

I don't know how or whether we are going to be able to match that at all.

0:27:400:27:44

Her hopes ride on Jem.

0:27:440:27:47

She knows how ambitious he is.

0:27:470:27:50

He has to be able to know that he can enjoy his work here, that there's prospects for him.

0:27:500:27:56

Thank you very much. Very good, yes, lots to talk about.

0:27:560:28:00

He's very happy in the work he does in the UK.

0:28:000:28:03

So, yes, it could jeopardise the whole thing, really.

0:28:030:28:07

Moving to the other side of the world would be a huge gamble, personally and professionally.

0:28:070:28:13

Jem has to drop the bomb shell to Sally that nursing might be the only option to start with.

0:28:130:28:19

It would be going back to shift work.

0:28:190:28:22

Some of the shifts go on till 10 o'clock at night.

0:28:220:28:25

And it's working weekends. And the starting salary, before you get to the clinical nurse specialist,

0:28:250:28:32

is something like 60,000, just over.

0:28:320:28:37

-So that's just over 30... So it's going back 15 years.

-That wouldn't really work for us.

0:28:370:28:41

You want to walk into your permanent dream job,

0:28:410:28:44

but if you get over here and you're somebody that can make things happen,

0:28:440:28:48

then, the world's your oyster.

0:28:480:28:50

Exactly. You and I are not going to have a cast-iron guarantee.

0:28:500:28:54

-No.

-If we decide to do this, we're going to have to accept the risk.

0:28:540:28:58

Do we just try it, see what it's like for us, or not?

0:28:580:29:02

So I think we're going to have to be quite brave to do it with the three kids.

0:29:020:29:06

It's quite a thing to, you know, hoick them out of school.

0:29:060:29:12

But then again, the pay-offs, if it does well, potentially, are enormous.

0:29:120:29:17

So it's just like, which way do you go, really?

0:29:170:29:20

Right here, right now, in terms of what's on offer,

0:29:220:29:25

it has to be the UK.

0:29:250:29:28

-And for me, it's in the middle.

-Ooh.

0:29:280:29:33

Without the work they love, the Mills' Byron Bay dream hangs in the balance.

0:29:330:29:38

The Mills' work prospects are in doubt

0:29:420:29:45

and they'll have to think seriously whether they can afford the move.

0:29:450:29:49

A lot of this will depend on what price they can get for their house back in the UK.

0:29:490:29:54

Sally and Jem own a three-bedroom house in Eastbourne.

0:29:550:29:58

They bought it back in 2005 for £200,000.

0:29:580:30:03

Today, they believe it's worth around 300,000.

0:30:030:30:07

Let's go.

0:30:070:30:09

We sent two estate agents to their home for an up-to-date valuation.

0:30:090:30:15

A nice, spacious hallway.

0:30:150:30:18

From the outside, it looked a little bit like it needed a bit of TLC and cleaning.

0:30:180:30:23

TLC and cleaning up on the outside?

0:30:250:30:27

It's a very good location with the primary school opposite.

0:30:360:30:41

-It's your school.

-Couldn't be any closer. It's great.

0:30:410:30:45

Oh, this is a lovely room.

0:30:490:30:51

I love the fireplace. It's nice to have some old features in there.

0:30:510:30:55

Very nice.

0:30:550:30:57

My room!

0:31:030:31:05

For the third bedroom, it's a nice size.

0:31:050:31:07

Again, original fireplace is nice.

0:31:070:31:10

What's negative for some is good for others.

0:31:130:31:16

I mean, the school opposite, for some, is a fantastic point. For others, it's not so good.

0:31:160:31:21

I think, at this moment in time,

0:31:210:31:23

the true value of this property stands to be around 250,000.

0:31:230:31:26

-Goodness me.

-I think we could market it slightly higher.

0:31:260:31:29

It's very low, isn't it?

0:31:290:31:30

Obviously, the only slight disadvantage is the smaller back garden,

0:31:300:31:34

which tends to be showing, probably, in the price.

0:31:340:31:38

250 is the area I'd expect to achieve.

0:31:380:31:41

Really? Gosh.

0:31:410:31:43

I might put it on the market at 259,950 to allow for offers.

0:31:430:31:46

I'd have expected it to be more around the kind of 300.

0:31:500:31:54

-Yeah, I suppose, we hoped, really, didn't we?

-Yeah.

0:31:540:31:57

-We haven't been following the market.

-I think it's just the current market, really.

0:31:570:32:02

I think that's the reason why, if we made the move, we wouldn't sell it anyway.

0:32:020:32:06

We'd wait for property prices to go back up.

0:32:060:32:08

After the disappointment with work prospects, this is yet another blow for Jem and Sally.

0:32:080:32:13

It almost feels like I don't want to see how wonderful it is and how beautiful it is.

0:32:130:32:18

I look at the view and I think, "God, it's just so gorgeous."

0:32:180:32:21

You're almost scared to look.

0:32:210:32:23

You're scared to open up your eyes to the kind of life we could have here

0:32:230:32:28

because, if we can't get it all to fit together,

0:32:280:32:31

then it might not work for us, you know.

0:32:310:32:33

It's like we're here,

0:32:360:32:37

but I don't want to invite the idea of moving to Australia in at the moment

0:32:370:32:45

because we've not made our mind up.

0:32:450:32:47

And it's a bit sad, really. It's kind of...

0:32:470:32:51

You can see the beauty, the possibilities,

0:32:510:32:53

-but emotionally we're just holding off a bit because of that.

-Mm-hm.

0:32:530:32:58

I don't know where I am with it all, really. It's all up in the air.

0:33:020:33:06

We have to see, really.

0:33:060:33:08

It seems to be going from bad to worse for the Mills.

0:33:090:33:13

If they're going to keep their dream alive, they're going to have to work out all their finances.

0:33:130:33:18

We've compared their living expenses in the UK and Australia

0:33:180:33:22

so they can work out if they can afford to live down under.

0:33:220:33:26

Shall we do the pool?

0:33:260:33:28

Pool, yeah.

0:33:280:33:30

-£100.

-Wow. Is that all of it?

-Yeah.

0:33:300:33:35

Now what about the children's clubs?

0:33:390:33:42

OK, so, £100... I mean, this is expensive for children's clubs.

0:33:420:33:49

With a large family, the price of groceries is a big weekly outlay.

0:33:490:33:53

Bagels are 4 for a four-pack.

0:33:550:33:57

They are roughly twice the price.

0:33:570:33:59

-Twice the price, goodness me, look at that.

-Blueberries...

-Gosh!

0:33:590:34:02

..are very expensive.

0:34:020:34:04

I think anything they have to import will be a lot more money.

0:34:040:34:09

It's all the processed stuff that's really expensive.

0:34:090:34:12

-No more luxuries then.

-No more luxuries? We don't do luxuries!

0:34:140:34:17

The cost of living in Australia isn't as low as many people imagine.

0:34:200:34:24

It's time for the final reckoning.

0:34:240:34:26

We would be £511 worse off.

0:34:300:34:33

£511 worse off.

0:34:330:34:39

-This is a bit close to the line, is it?

-I think so, yeah.

0:34:390:34:43

You're more likely to be... If big things come up...

0:34:430:34:46

Yeah.

0:34:460:34:48

We don't want to be over here struggling.

0:34:500:34:52

-Yeah.

-Having to go into the overdraft, credit cards.

0:34:520:34:55

Jem and Sally have had their eyes opened by the financial reality.

0:34:550:35:00

Yesterday, I was saying that, from a vocational point of view or a career point of view,

0:35:000:35:05

I wouldn't be that interested in coming back as a registered nurse.

0:35:050:35:09

It actually transpires that we probably couldn't afford to, either.

0:35:090:35:13

In terms of our current lifestyle, the money we spend on the children, we could be quite stuck.

0:35:150:35:20

We wouldn't want to come here to the other side of the world, away from our families,

0:35:200:35:24

and just be running out of money every month.

0:35:240:35:27

Jem and Sally aren't ones to give up easily. For them, where there's a will there's a way.

0:35:270:35:33

The fact that we've discovered financially that it's not doable as a registered nurse,

0:35:330:35:38

just tells me that's not the way we're gonna do it.

0:35:380:35:41

-It's not the path to take.

-Another way will emerge.

0:35:410:35:44

I want to play hide and seek!

0:35:440:35:46

We very, very much believe that if you hold that idea in your mind,

0:35:470:35:52

then you're much more likely to be able to see the opportunities for it

0:35:520:35:55

and end up achieving, ultimately, what you want. I still believe that.

0:35:550:35:59

And if it's meant to be, it's meant to be - it will happen in that way.

0:35:590:36:02

Even positive thinking can't change facts and, on the cost of living, it's time to vote.

0:36:020:36:09

This morning we've been looking at the cost of living comparing Australia to the UK

0:36:090:36:13

and, with everything in mind, we're going to vote...

0:36:130:36:17

in the middle.

0:36:170:36:18

Now, if you're the active type, then Australia has something for everyone.

0:36:240:36:28

And Byron Bay has built its reputation on one thing - surfing.

0:36:280:36:33

And it's largely due to its prime geographical position.

0:36:340:36:38

The largest island on the planet sticks into the biggest ocean

0:36:380:36:41

and this is where it happens -

0:36:410:36:43

Byron Bay, the eastern tip of the Australian continent.

0:36:430:36:46

Byron Bay was discovered as a great place to live by surfers and hippies in the '60s.

0:36:460:36:52

It's a working-class town. They had a couple of policemen, one sergeant.

0:36:520:36:57

It was sort of like the old Wild West with the sheriff.

0:36:570:37:00

You could come with your surfboard, walk onto the beach, stay with friends

0:37:000:37:04

or just camp out on the beach.

0:37:040:37:06

Since then, surfing has exploded around the world as a way to exercise both body and mind.

0:37:060:37:12

Surfing is a sensory sport. It stimulates all the senses.

0:37:120:37:16

You can smell it, you can see it, you can touch it, you can feel it.

0:37:160:37:19

And it actually works on subliminal levels as well,

0:37:190:37:23

where you're mentally becoming aware of things in a way that you're not normally in your everyday life.

0:37:230:37:28

You're going along on a wave,

0:37:280:37:30

everything's fine then you get a section,

0:37:300:37:32

something breaks in front of you and you gotta go down and around it or up over it or through it

0:37:320:37:37

so it's an interesting sort of way to look at life, too.

0:37:370:37:41

But, if you're new to surfing, make sure you get a lesson.

0:37:410:37:46

Take the time to come and pay a small amount of money to get some basic information

0:37:460:37:51

to go and have a safe, fun experience in the ocean. It's money so well spent.

0:37:510:37:55

When you go out surfing, you're going in another environment.

0:37:550:37:58

You can step on a rock, you can get eaten by a shark, you can get run over.

0:37:580:38:02

A lot of things can happen.

0:38:020:38:04

So, it calls for real awareness.

0:38:040:38:06

So, if you've got the nerve, surfing is a great sport to try.

0:38:060:38:10

Come to Byron Bay. It's a dynamic area, it really is.

0:38:100:38:13

It's a beautiful beach environment. We're lucky.

0:38:130:38:16

Byron Bay is one of the surfing Meccas of the world.

0:38:160:38:18

Jem and Sally Mills dreamt of a fairy-tale lifestyle down under

0:38:210:38:25

and when they arrived at their luxury pad they thought they'd found it.

0:38:250:38:30

-Oh, my goodness - this is amazing!

-It's like a big fairy tale, really.

0:38:300:38:35

But the reality of jobs available and their finances hit home.

0:38:350:38:39

That would involve going back to the salary that I was on years ago.

0:38:390:38:43

Listening to messages from loved ones is never easy.

0:38:430:38:46

They are a very important part of my life. I shall miss them. A lot.

0:38:460:38:51

Sally is desperate to make the move but will she ever be able to convince Jem?

0:38:520:38:57

Life out here could be so good for us, but is there going to be enough for him workwise?

0:38:570:39:01

Are we going to be able to resolve those issues?

0:39:010:39:04

It's kind of resting with me a bit.

0:39:040:39:07

And... That's a bit of pressure, I guess.

0:39:070:39:10

Who knows what they'll decide? But one thing's for sure -

0:39:110:39:15

the Mills will want to make the most of the sporty Australian outdoors.

0:39:150:39:20

But is it really better than the life they have in the UK?

0:39:200:39:23

Back in the UK, Jem and the kids enjoy all aspects of oriental culture including meditation and karate.

0:39:270:39:33

So, in Australia, we've set them up with a martial arts club in Byron Bay.

0:39:390:39:43

It's an important part of our life. The boys love their karate after school.

0:39:430:39:47

If we came over here, we would really be looking for something to replace that

0:39:470:39:51

and hopefully, fingers crossed, this is going to be the one.

0:39:510:39:54

-Nice to meet you.

-You too.

0:39:560:39:59

Sam Calibro is the instructor.

0:39:590:40:01

He's keen to see what the kids are made of.

0:40:010:40:04

As Jevon and Rowan use up their excess energy,

0:40:210:40:24

Jem takes the chance to question parent and ex-pat James Robinson-Gale about the hardships of emigrating.

0:40:240:40:31

Those first few years, it was really difficult. I really felt...

0:40:310:40:34

-Homesick?

-Yeah, absolutely homesick.

0:40:340:40:37

But now, this is it.

0:40:370:40:39

It seems odd to go back home now. I mean, I miss several things. You get nostalgic about things.

0:40:390:40:45

-Do you go back much?

-Unfortunately my father died recently...

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-I heard. I'm sorry about that.

-..so I had to go back, so that sort of wrench is very difficult.

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If you can get over all those feelings of loss, being away from the UK,

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it's a wonderful standard of living, quality of life - particularly with little ones.

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It's Jem's turn to have a go.

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He's learned a different form of martial arts in the UK so could be in for a battering.

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# Jungle boogie

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# Jungle boogie Get it on

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# Jungle boogie

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# Jungle boogie Get it on

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# Jungle boogie... #

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That was great. Really enjoyed that.

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It's a really good workout and some of the younger ones, especially the guy at the end, were beating me up.

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I've got a lot to learn!

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For Jem, it's not just about the karate, it's about the people.

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One thing I get concerned about is whether or not we'll fit in, make friends, that kind of stuff.

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It's hard to imagine there could be an easier place to make friends - they are so open and friendly.

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I really appreciate it. Thank you very much, sir.

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So, how's he going to vote on the lifestyle?

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Australia!

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Jem's feeling more at home in Byron Bay but will Sally find what she's looking for?

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Back in Eastbourne, she's a member of a local running club.

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After years and years of struggling with a regular exercise routine, I've finally,

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over the last couple of years, established one, which I'm really happy with and really enjoy.

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It's been fantastic, so I'd really miss that.

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In Australia, it's 5:30am.

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And some of Byron Bay's roughest and toughest are up for a spot of light exercise.

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Right, starting straight into it, guys!

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Fitness instructor, Daniel Clifton-Northey runs boot camp courses every week.

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He can't wait to put Sally through her paces.

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The runners go. The bag throwers go.

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Patrol between logs. Stop, this team.

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I hope you didn't do your nails.

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No one's counting, especially Sally. Start again. Let's go!

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This team over here working well together. This is your last lap.

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Come on, Sally, put your back into it.

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Come on, guys, let's go.

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Don't let them beat you this easy. Let's go. 30 seconds.

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Rather you than me, Sally!

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-Oh yeah, mate. Oh yeah.

-All right?

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Let your elbow go just behind your shoulder and you'll feel it right across the front of your chest.

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The setting here is just absolutely gorgeous. I mean, look at the views. They're spectacular.

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A really nice group of people. Similar to Eastbourne, similar kind of guys.

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Really friendly.

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So I'm really pleased to see that there's something I could do here, fitnesswise.

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Byron Bay has everything to offer a family like the Mills but Sally is feeling the strain.

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It's a feeling of unsettlement

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and I think that's a feeling that other people that are trying this can relate to.

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Nothing seems familiar so it's a kind of sense of vulnerability, being here and being away from home.

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It's scary, in a way, the thought of moving away from everything familiar and coming to a new place,

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even though the new place offers everything you could possibly want it to.

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It's still quite a scary thing to think about doing.

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The reality of the move is kicking in.

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Is Sally now changing her mind?

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The Mills have had a long week and lots on their mind.

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Will seeing messages from loved ones back home make the decision to move down under even harder?

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Hi, Jem, hi, Sally. Hi, Jevon, Rowan and Hannah.

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Hi, it's Mum here.

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I'm hoping you're having a wonderful time.

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You know, people say that their brother is their best friend.

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Well, in Jem's case, that's true.

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He's been a rock to me through some very traumatic, dark times in my life.

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He's like a best friend, as well as a brother.

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Sally, yes, she's very laid-back.

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She's a really lovely mum and good with the kids,

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and very good with me.

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She's always willing to listen.

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Sally was one of the inaugural members of our running group.

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She's always there, smiling, keeping people going.

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She's one of the only people

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who never ever gets disturbed by the trainers.

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She's such a kind, lovely person

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and we really would miss her.

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She's not just one of our clients, she's a good friend, so it would be sad.

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What kind of person is Jevon?

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Kind.

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And he listens.

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He's my best friend.

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We'll miss all of them,

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particularly seeing our grandchildren growing up.

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They're young now, I know, but Australia is thousands of miles away.

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It's a long way away, so we will miss that.

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I've been spending time with them, and I know they'll only ever be a phone call away,

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but it's not quite the same as spending time with them as a family.

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It would be difficult.

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OK, you can have webcams and whatever the modern technology is,

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but actually being accessible so you can ring them up and say, "Can I pop over?"

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or, "Would you like to come over?" and feeling them, you know?

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Part of me hopes they don't want to go, and part of me thinks it would be lovely if they do. So...

0:47:030:47:10

I just want them to be happy.

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Yeah, I shall miss them. A lot.

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I really do miss my nanny and grandad, especially my uncle,

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because they are very kind to me.

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I miss my friends and family and...

0:47:330:47:37

..it made me feel a bit emotional.

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I think the hardest thing for me was watching my mum

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and kind of feeling the sadness that she would obviously experience

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if we were to move away.

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As she says, you can Skype or keep in contact,

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but it's not the same as being able to just pop round. That's really sad.

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It's special with my brother because he's there for the weekend every fortnight

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and the kids really love him and so do I.

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That's going to be a real difference for us.

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On an emotional level, it's really hard,

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because you're attached to people, your family and your friends,

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and it's a big wrench to leave them.

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But, on the other hand, you have got to think of what you're offering your immediate children,

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your immediate family, and the lives that they can have and our grandchildren will have.

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Listening to messages from home has left them feeling torn and it's confirmed how big this move would be.

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The Mills are still undecided.

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Now, they are coming to the end of their trial week and it has been full of ups and downs.

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They've been swept away by the stunning landscape and lifestyle of Byron Bay.

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-They've seen some stunning houses.

-Oh, my goodness! This is amazing!

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-Wow.

-Wow.

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But the job prospects are far from encouraging - a lower salary could leave them broke.

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-It's a bit close to the line, is it?

-It would be difficult to consider the move.

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You're almost scared to look, scared to open up your eyes to the kind of life we could have here.

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There's a big question of whether they can afford to move financially and emotionally.

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Will meeting new friends at Lennox Head help them make that final decision?

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Sally's been on the case as usual and has contacted Carol Piper through a friend back home,

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before coming to Australia.

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We've been in e-mail correspondence with them but we've never met them before so, it's like, great.

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It'll be nice to put a face to name and really see them in person,

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get to know them a little bit.

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The Mills have come to Lennox Beach to meet Carol, husband, Andrew, and their kids for the first time.

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The Pipers are both teachers and emigrated from the UK two years ago,

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so are perfectly placed to give them the real story about making such a big move.

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So, what are your initial impressions of the whole area and Australia?

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Well, it's beautiful, we're just stunned by the scenery here. It's absolutely gorgeous.

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And the people have been brilliant, people we've never met before, like yourselves.

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They've been so generous and so giving with everything.

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It's just been fantastic.

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It's kind of everything I hoped it would be, really, and more, definitely and more.

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Catch!

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Has there been anything since you moved out here that you miss?

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Obviously you miss things about the UK, but things that you feel aren't quite as good over here or...?

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I really miss the English countryside.

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We lived in Cornwall before we left,

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and we walked a lot with the dog in the English countryside.

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That's something you can't do here.

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Jem's keen to find out how the Pipers made their decision.

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One of the things we're thinking about doing is trying it for a couple of years

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and then deciding, once and for all, whether or not to put our roots down here.

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I know all you've been here for a couple of years now,

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so I'm wondering what it's like at the two-year mark for you.

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I guess when we left the UK, we didn't want to leave that get-out clause for ourselves.

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We felt that, psychologically, we'd always be thinking about returning if we kept one foot in the UK.

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So we purposely sold up and we moved out completely.

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And even now, we sometimes think back to the UK

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and think, "We miss this," or, "We'd like to go and see that."

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Do you have any regrets at all?

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No, really, life just gets better because you just get more established, you make friends...

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Is it beginning to feel like home? Because Jem and I feel...

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We think we could move out here and have a beautiful life, a beautiful place to live,

0:52:020:52:06

a great culture, but will it ever feel in our hearts like home?

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For us, it really feels like home.

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Really? Did it early on? Or did it take a while?

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Um, no, really pretty much straightaway.

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Because it's such a huge thing, that move from the UK,

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that when you arrive, you've arrived and then you live it.

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When you're not working and you're on the beach,

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you just think, "Oh, my goodness, this is lovely - this is the life."

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But, for sure, it doesn't feel like it's artificial.

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Because it's not - this is all real, isn't it?

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There's one thing that is always on Jem's mind.

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One of the things we've been looking at, and it's a fairly challenging area for us,

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is thinking about work.

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It does take time and you need a little bit of luck.

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But you've got to make your own luck and put yourself in the right place to find it.

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I think, in some ways, we were hoping that we'd get a tailor-made, ready-to-fit-into job,

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to give us that security of coming all the way over from the UK.

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It just seems a real challenge

0:53:150:53:19

to just cross your fingers and hope that it's all going to turn out.

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I believe it, though - you make your own way,

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and if you've got a positive way of approaching things, you'll succeed.

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That's the golden rule, really.

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And Jem and Sally certainly are positive thinkers.

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But will they find the courage to take the plunge?

0:53:390:53:44

This whole week's been a roller coaster.

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On one hand, you can feel very positive about something,

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and on the other hand you can have some doubts

0:53:490:53:51

and there's the fear associated with such a big decision.

0:53:510:53:54

But then, you have a bit of a talk to yourself and think,

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"There's so much out here for us, what could we possibly lose?"

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But there's the security of what you know, what we know in the UK,

0:54:050:54:10

the security of having our friends and family around us.

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To just up and leave is quite scary. Yeah.

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It's funny - today, about the move, I've been feeling...

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I've gone through different phases, just today. It's just gone up and down, up and down.

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Sally's been the main driving force for this whole process, really.

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In a way, it's kind of resting with me a bit.

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That's a bit of pressure, I guess.

0:54:390:54:43

If he votes for England today, that means at this point in time,

0:54:430:54:47

from the information he's had this week,

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that he's not satisfied that we could just drop everything and move to Australia.

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I think that would mean it was still work in progress for me.

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You know, if I decide that it's just a stretch too far,

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from the work point of view,

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then what does that mean in terms of the impact on the family and what they want?

0:55:090:55:14

So, you know, what's it going to be?

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It's time for the Mills to make their final decision.

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What will Jem choose for himself and his family?

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We've had a fantastic time in Australia, we've met some wonderful people,

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and this is the time when we finally vote for whether or not we want to move over here.

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And the vote's going to be...

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ALL: Australia!

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You voted Australia?

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It was that last conversation with Andrew,

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where he said that if you're prepared to step back a little bit and network

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and really fit into the Australian way of life,

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then this is a country where people with our kind of drive, passion and creativity

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can really make something of themselves. I just think, what the heck? Give it a go.

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Aw, bless you.

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The Mills have been on a real journey of discovery and have made a brave decision.

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Let's hope it works out for them.

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