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What's up guys, I'm Labrinth. I'm a musician. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
I'm a writer. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
I'm a producer. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
And here's a little bit of what I do. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
# I predict an earthquake | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
# Let me hear you say... # | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
But I wasn't always this confident. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
When I was younger, I was a little bit of a shy guy, believe it or not. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
I found it hard to speak in public. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
Music was my way of expressing myself. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
It took me a while to find my voice, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
but I'm hoping that it doesn't have to take you guys that long. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
In this programme, we're going to show you some short cuts, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
and we're going to go and meet some people whose voices are their jobs. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
We're also going to take some volunteers along with us | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
to see how they do. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
This is Reece and this is Melissa. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
They're both at school in Salford, | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
Greater Manchester. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
Today they're down the road at the BBC's MediaCity, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
where they're going to test their speaking skills | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
by becoming newsreaders for a day. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
I think it's... | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
I think it's a really good opportunity. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
Hello there, guys. Now here with you this sunny Sunday, you're live... | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
Their guru is Newsround presenter Nel Hedayat. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
The challenges of my job are time. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
Next it's time to get the sun lotion and sunnies out... | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
'We're live telly, I have to make sure that I sound calm' | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
and I'm reading at a pace where | 0:01:27 | 0:01:28 | |
it's leisurely and enjoyable. But I'm like, "I want to get to | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
"that last story. I don't want to drop that last story!" | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
If you love bizarre world records, you're going to love this. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
Melissa and Reece are going to have a go at what Nel does | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
and find out what it takes to be a top TV news journalist. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
One of the most senior soldiers in Afghanistan says recent | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
violence there could have been avoided | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
if Britain and America had done a deal with the Taliban ten years ago. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
All you need to do is make sure you're reading slowly, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
you're confident in what you're saying - | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
even if you're not sure. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
Confidence is so important. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
Be slow in your delivery. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
The speed I'm talking to you now is not the speed I read at, OK? | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
So you need to be confident, smile, stand up tall. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
At every full stop, take a breath cos sometimes you'll go, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
"Mama-mama-mama..." | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
and it's too much. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:16 | |
Before they get in front of the camera, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:20 | |
what are Nel's top tips for news reading? | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
This is Newsround. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
Pace yourself, time yourself, don't | 0:02:25 | 0:02:26 | |
get ahead of yourself thinking, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
"I know the next few words, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:29 | |
"I'll say them really fast | 0:02:29 | 0:02:30 | |
"but I don't know this name so I'm going to say it really slowly." | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
We don't know the young prince's name just yet | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
but we do know he was born at 4.24pm. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
I'll talk to the autocue as though it's my little brother. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
And you know what? | 0:02:41 | 0:02:42 | |
There's a very tangible, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
very palpable difference in your tone. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
The royal couple managed to keep it to themselves for a couple of hours. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
Practise...practise reading. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
I read in here, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
I read stories in newspapers, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
I go home and read. I read 24/7. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
You've got to educate and inform and entertain a really young person. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
-OK. -OK? Up for the job? Who's first? | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
I feel quite excited to be honest, yeah. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
I don't feel that nervous, actually. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:09 | |
I thought I would have had like fear of speaking on camera | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
but I'm all right. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:13 | |
It's Reece who's first into the action. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
OK, we are recording. In five, four, three... | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
It's just one big story today, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
we can finally bring you the news the world has been waiting for. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have had a baby boy. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
This is Newsround. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:30 | |
That's right, a royal baby has been born. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
The official notice went up on the easel yesterday afternoon. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
We don't know the young prince's name just yet, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
but we do know that he was born at 4.24pm, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
he weighed 8 lbs 6oz | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
and he is third in line to the throne. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:43 | |
That is so tough. Well done! | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
Reece puts in a professional performance. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
That's great, well done. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:52 | |
-It's difficult, weren't it? -What's the hardest thing though? | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
Like it's trying to keep like a pace going, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
cos you don't want to start off confident, then slow down. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
Next, it's Melissa's turn in the spotlight. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
MAN: OK, we are recording. In five, four, three... | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
There's just one big story today. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
We can finally bring you the news the whole world has been waiting for. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
The Duke and the Duchess of Cambridge have had a baby boy. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
This is Newsround. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:18 | |
That's right, the royal baby boy has been born. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
The official notice was put up on the easel yesterday afternoon. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
We don't know the young prince's name but yet, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
we just know that he was born at 4.20pm. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
He weighs 8 lbs 6oz and he is the...he is | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
the third in line... | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
And the royal couple managed to keep it to themselves | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
for a couple of hours. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
They spent time with him in... | 0:04:40 | 0:04:41 | |
After a solid start, Melissa's report falters. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
He has been up early this is... this morning. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Can I just give you an update on what I think can help you? | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
You're not obeying full stops. You must pause at full stops, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
it gives your brain time to like pause and catch up. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
That will help you with your pace. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
OK. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:00 | |
MAN: Are we still recording? Here we go. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
There's just one big story today, we can finally bring you the news... | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
With Nel's helpful advice taken on board, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
it's take two for Melissa. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
This is Newsround. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
That's right, the royal baby boy has been born. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
The official notice was put on the easel yesterday afternoon. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
We don't know the young prince's name yet | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
but we just know that he was born at 4.24pm, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
he weighs 8 lbs 6oz | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
and he is the third in line to the throne. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
MAN: That's very good. Excellent. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
Genuinely surprised, in the best possible way, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
how well you guys have done. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:35 | |
The first time I did that, I was a lot worse than you. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
How did you find it? | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
It was quite hard but you get used to it. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
You're thinking and you're reading and you're thinking, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
"I think I'm doing it wrong but I'm doing it right." | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
It's confusing. It was hard. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
A real crash course in that in different situations, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
in different ways, we all speak differently, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
-and your voice and how you use it is so powerful in that, right? -Yes. | 0:05:55 | 0:06:00 | |
Cool. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:01 | |
How was your experience? | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
-I thought it was amazing. -Yeah? | 0:06:08 | 0:06:09 | |
Yeah, it was good. Something that I'd never done before, it was good. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
I might just see you guys on Newsround next. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
My nephew's going to be like, "That's my favourite presenter, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
"I love you guys." | 0:06:18 | 0:06:19 | |
Would you guys want to do it? | 0:06:21 | 0:06:22 | |
-Yeah, I'd do it as a job happily. -Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
-You know when you have to read the autocue? -Yeah. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
Erm, when I've done award ceremonies and they've got autocue, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
I find it really difficult to keep my eyes on it | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
and sound natural as well. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:33 | |
I'll be like, "Er, um, coming up next, um, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
"Tinie Tempah with, er..." | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
I just sound like a crazy guy. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
So, how did you guys feel when you had to deal with autocue | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
and speaking to the camera? | 0:06:44 | 0:06:45 | |
It's hard at first, but then when you did it the second time | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
it got easier cos they were different speeds and stuff. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
-Oh, OK. -But you got used to it. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:51 | |
Do you feel like you would be more confident next time you... | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
you were put in that situation? | 0:06:54 | 0:06:55 | |
-Yeah, definitely. -Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
Personally, I think you guys done an amazing job | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
cos I wouldn't have been able to do it, I would have been like... | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
HE MUMBLES | 0:07:02 | 0:07:03 | |
That's all I would have done the whole time. Well done, man. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
Thank you. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:07 | |
Now for a completely different way of speaking out, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
using your voice to entertain an audience with poetry. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
This is Millie. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:25 | |
And this is Adam. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:28 | |
They've come to Latitude Festival to meet poet Caroline Bird. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
Long before you tie the knots, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
Divorce moves in... | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
Although Millie and Adam enjoy reading, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
today they'll actually be performing poetry. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
The best kind of poems, they work on paper and in the air. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
They'll each read one classic poem | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
to a tent full of complete strangers. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
..He sits on the naughty step, patting his knees | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
Crowned in towel, I step out of the shower | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
and he's there, handing me a raffle ticket. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
Caroline has had four books of poetry published | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
and performed them all over the world. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
I had my first book published when I was 15 | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
and I was invited to give readings. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
I'd never done anything like that before. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
You feel quite naked and you have to be... Like not literally, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
but you have to get up on stage and kind of pour out your heart | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
and be all right with that. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
..but we sing Divorce to sleep | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
with long love songs. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
-Do you get nervous? -Yeah. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:45 | |
What things worry you about performing? | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
If people didn't like what I did and they thought it was really bad. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
-OK, so, worried about kind of being judged? -Yeah. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
I'm all right I-I'm not really bothered. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
-You don't get nervous? -No. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:57 | |
-Not at all? -No. -Never? Wow. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
So tell me a bit about the poems that you're going to read. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
Mine is called "In Hilly-Wood" by John Clare. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
I don't quite understand what it says | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
but I can read it, so that's fine. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
So, what are Caroline's top tips for reading poetry aloud? | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
Adam, I know you don't get nervous | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
and you said, "Well, I can read it." | 0:09:15 | 0:09:16 | |
But it would be so much better for you | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
if you can have a reason to be communicating it. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
You have to know why you want to say THAT word like THIS! | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
And you want to say that word like this and you have to feel it. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
"How sweet to be thus nestling deep in boughs." | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
Have you ever nestled deep in any boughs? | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
No. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:34 | |
OK, have you ever laid out in the lawn and sunbathed? | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
Yeah. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:37 | |
-Yeah. Have you ever felt like "this is great"? -Yeah. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
I think one of the worries when you're performing a poem | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
that is written 300 years ago | 0:09:45 | 0:09:46 | |
is that it's not in the voice of your time. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
It doesn't mean that you've got to put an olden day voice on | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
when you have to go, "Thee." | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
It's about transporting that poem into your own mouth | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
and into your own time. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
"I strain my heart, | 0:09:58 | 0:09:59 | |
"I stretch my hands, And catch at hope." | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
It's nice cos it's like she's reaching for what she wants | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
but she can't get it. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
Remember that you own that poem. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
You are the only person, who will ever see that poem | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
in the way that you see it, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:14 | |
because your voice has never been heard like that before. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
Say it out loud to yourself over and over again, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
find out what it means live. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
Really excited about seeing you doing it. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
This is going to be good. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:25 | |
There's just enough time for a final run through... | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Faintly are heard the ploughman at their ploughs... | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
I never watch the scatter'd fire | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
Of stars, or sun's far-trailing train... | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
..before they're due on stage. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
Without further ado, I would like to introduce our main acts, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
Adam and Millie. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
"How sweet to be thus nestling deep in boughs, | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
"Upon an ashen stoven pillowing me; | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
"Faintly are heard the ploughmen at their ploughs, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
"But not an eye can find its way to see. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
"Full many a flower, too, wishing to be seen, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
"Perks up its head the hiding grass between - | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
"In mid-wood silence, thus, how sweet to be; | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
"Where all the noises, that on peace intrude | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
"Come from the chittering cricket, bird, and bee, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
"Whose songs have charms to sweeten solitude." | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
-Thank you very much. -CHEERING | 0:11:24 | 0:11:25 | |
Hi, guys. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:33 | |
I'm going to be performing De Profundis by Christina Rossetti | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
I hope you like it. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:36 | |
"Oh why is heaven built so far, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
"Oh why is earth set so remote? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
"I cannot reach the nearest star That hangs afloat... | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
"I never watch the scatter'd fire, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
"Of stars, or sun's far-trailing train, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
"But all my heart is one desire, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
"And all in vain... | 0:11:57 | 0:11:58 | |
"I strain my heart, I stretch my hands, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
"And catch at hope." | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
I thought you were both really honest | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
and genuine in your delivery. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:14 | |
You went up there, said the poems in your own voices. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
I really felt like I hadn't heard them before. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
You performed at Latitude to a big audience, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
it's pretty good. It's the beginning of your poetry career. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
How was this experience for you? | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
I enjoyed doing the poetry. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
It was interesting to do something that I don't usually do. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Yeah. What about you, Millie? | 0:12:42 | 0:12:43 | |
It was quite nerve-racking, cos obviously | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
if we'd had more time to like study it and know it off by heart | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
then we could have like made, done more hand gestures or... | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
Yeah, and kind of made it a bit more of a performance. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
Yeah, I see what you mean. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:55 | |
As an artist we have to, sometimes, perform someone else's song, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
but you have to embody their song in your own way. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
I could do a One Direction song, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
but I would have to do my own version of it. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
How did you feel having to add feeling | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
into something that wasn't yours? | 0:13:09 | 0:13:10 | |
I mean it was hard, cos we don't understand... | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
-I don't understand what the poem was about. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
So, you had to get full, like, understanding of what it is | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
before you can interpret in your own way. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
I find it easier to sing in front of people, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
but, yeah, having to do a poem in front of people, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
I would be, like, "Aargh! I'm going to go home now." | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
Do you still get scared when you perform and stuff? | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
Without a doubt. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
I think the thing to remember in it is how much you enjoy what you do. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
If you love what you do, then you're going to give it 100%. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
Do you feel like you two have learnt anything from this experience | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
that you might want to take away? | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
Yeah, I feel like I'm more confident speaking in front of people now | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
and I learnt how to put my own twist on things rather than copying it | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
exactly how other people do it. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
Yeah, yeah. I think you guys did a great job. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
Next we're off to Preston in Lancashire | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
to speak out to a totally different crowd of football fans. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
This is Greg and this is Georgia | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
from just outside Manchester. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
They're both sports fans, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
and tonight they're heading to | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
Preston North End's Deepdale Stadium. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
But they won't be watching, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
they'll be commentating live for the club's online fans. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
They'll be stepping into the shoes of commentator Jonathan Breeze. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
So, how do you feel about being at Preston North End? | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
I think it's a great opportunity to be here, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
it's a great experience to see everyone, meet new people. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
I'm a really big football fan in general, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
so coming down to, to commentate on football every single week | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
is like a dream job, really, it's absolutely fantastic. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
Todd Kane here with the throw on the right-hand side, | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
up to the edge of the penalty area, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
but they're being forced back by King | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
who back-flicks it in towards the path of Kane. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
The most difficult thing with commentary | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
is identifying the players and knowing that when there's a goal | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
you are calling the right goal-scorer's name out. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
So it's identifying the players, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
knowing the statistics about those players, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
knowing their history, knowing the game in context | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
and being able to portray that to the listeners at home. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
Tonight, Georgia and Greg will be doing what Jonathan does | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
and commentating on Preston's match against old rivals Blackburn Rovers. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:35 | |
Preston do have it on the halfway line. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
But before they take to the mic, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:39 | |
what are Jonathan's top tips for sports commentary? | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
..crowd here, inside Deepdale tonight. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
Being able to talk about football is great, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
but you've also got to be able to change the flow and the speed | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
of how you talk, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:52 | |
being able to describe things | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
in a way that really gives the listener at home | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
the impression that you're their eyes. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
John Welsh here inadvertently got the flick on, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
and the chase is on for DJ Campbell here, down the left-hand side, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
right-footed into the penalty area. Jordan Rhodes with the header | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
and Declan Rudd has to make the save. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
Being able to describe where the ball is, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
being able to, kind of, outlaying what the players are doing, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
what they're wearing, where they're standing, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
if the manager's shouting at the referee. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
It's Judge again, running forward, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
all right-footed as he lays it off towards Campbell now, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
who tries to work a way into the penalty area. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
If there's a goal or there's a chance | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
then you really need to get excited | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
and it's a case of rising your voice a little bit | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
just to try and portray that excitement. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
Plenty of movement inside the penalty area, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
Holmes crossing into the penalty area... It's a goal! | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
And it's Davies who scores. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
His first Preston North End goal on his Deepdale debut | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
against his former side. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:46 | |
Just making it louder or a little bit quieter | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
just to kind of keep the audience listening | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
and alert to what you're saying. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Well the second half's just about to start, it's 1-1 at the moment, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
it's been a really good game, | 0:16:57 | 0:16:58 | |
we're going to get you two to have a little go at commentating | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
and describing the action for the listeners who are tuned in at home. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
Just try and take your time, talk about what's going on, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
talk about who's out there and what they're doing and enjoy it. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
Welcome back to the start of the second half here at Deepdale, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
where it's Preston North End 1, Blackburn Rovers 1. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:26 | |
Got 15-year-old Georgia, who is sat with me next, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
and Georgia will be bringing us a couple of minutes | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
of commentary of the game very shortly. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
Thrust into the hot seat, Georgia's finding it hard to get started. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
Blackburn stand over the free kick. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
Do you want to have a go at commentating on this free kick, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
Georgia? | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
OK, we're on the halfway line here. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
That was a shake of the head, by the way, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
if you're listening at home, from Georgia. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
But with a little more prompting from Jonathan, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
Georgia finds her confidence and her voice. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
What did you think of that little passage of play there, Georgia? | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
It was a great play, they did really well. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
They broke through really well and I think it's a great game so far | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
for the second half. They had a good start | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
and are doing really well. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
All the fans are really enthusiastic, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
it's a really bright atmosphere. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
How have you found commentating so far, Georgia? | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
Um, it's been a great opportunity, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
it's really interesting to come here with the BBC and watch the match. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
It's the end for Georgia. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
Now I've got Greg next to me, who is sat here | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
ready to talk us through some of the action. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
Although nervous, Greg settles down quickly. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
Still Preston North End 1, Blackburn Rovers 1. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
Blackburn, here, are on the ball | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
and they're trying to make their way back into the penalty area, Greg. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
Er, yes, and, of course, they're going to throw in. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
Nice low pass towards Chris Taylor. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
Passes to, I believe, is that number 7? | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
Yes, that number 7 is Josh King who misses... | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
Oh, Jordan Rhodes, sorry, missed a spectacular chance at getting a goal. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
It's a good effort as well for the, er, £8 million man from, er, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
from Blackburn, just in front of the travelling fans as well. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
Preston taking it up the far side now. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
That is Chris Humphrey. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
And... | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
Jake Kean has got the ball now, and he's going for a goal kick. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
-Well, Greg, thanks very much for your input. -Thanks for having me. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
Yeah, thank you very much and very well done for, er, your efforts. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
We're now in the heart of midfield which is probably... | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
It was really interesting to be in the commentator's position, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
see what their job's like on a day-to-day basis. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
I was impressed about how he keeps his nerve and he knows | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
how to carry on a conversation while staring at a match. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
FINAL WHISTLE BLOWS | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
FANS APPLAUD | 0:19:56 | 0:19:57 | |
Georgia, a little bit nervous at the start, | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
but she soon got her confidence going and started | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
talking about the game, talking about how things were unfolding. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
I was really surprised with Greg. He was really confident, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
trying to kind of put a bit of description in there | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
to try and help the audience understand where the ball is. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
But he was really happy to go on and explain what was going on, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
explain who was on the ball and what was happening. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
They were excellent. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
What's going on, guys, how are you doing? | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
-All right. -Yeah? How do you feel about that? | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
It was terrifying. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:34 | |
Seriously? What was terrifying about it? | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
I was just so nervous about the fact that it was live | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
-and if you messed up everyone would hear. -It was just like, "A-a-agh." | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
But once you get up there, it's really exciting, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
it's a great experience, you learn to think on your feet | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
and just be in the atmosphere of the game, really. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
Do you think it's upped your confidence? | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
Yeah, definitely, with speaking more clearly and everything as well | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
because I normally speak really fast and rush my words | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
cos I'm nervous, but I think I started to grasp a better feel... | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
That's exactly, like, I've done that so many times | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
where I've been doing interviews, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
and when I first started they'd be like, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
"So, Labrinth, how did you put this album together?" | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
And I'd be like, "Well, erm, we, we went with this and we done this | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
"and, erm, we worked with this record producer..." | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
And it would be like, you don't need to throw the information at them. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
Like, just, just cool it, one word at a time. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
Of course, we all speak differently. I'm from East London, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
and I've got my slang and I'm like, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
"What's up, cuz?" and "What's happening?" | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
Not everybody understands that. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:29 | |
How do you feel about having to change | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
the way you articulate your words | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
or, you know, like, so people understand what you're saying? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
I feel like I'm doing that right now. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
-Yeah? -LABRINTH LAUGHS | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
Because... | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
So am I, mate! | 0:21:42 | 0:21:43 | |
..wherever you are there's always a bit of slang | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
and, like, your own words that you have for your friends or something. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
Yeah. It was an experience, something that you've never done. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
You gave 100% in something that weren't naturally your calling | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
but you seemed like a natural. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
-Thank you. -And the same with you as well. You killed it, babe. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
-My heart was racing. -It didn't sound like it, you were just like, "Yeah." | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
LABRINTH LAUGHS | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
Next, a really tough challenge, debating. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
Politicians do it every day, but how easy is it? | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
Meet 15-year-old Munevver. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
And 15-year-old Tionne. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
They are, for the very first time, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:34 | |
about to take part in a debate. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
I'm not sure what to think. I don't know what to expect. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
In English lessons, maybe, I've tried things like this | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
but not as big and not as different as this. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
They'll be coached by Jo Box. She is a barrister. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
She specialises in public speaking. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
The motion is that this house would lower the age of voting to 16. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
It's important that people | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
get involved in politics from a young age. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
'I'm a barrister.' | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
Part of what that involves is making arguments in court. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
So being able to speak confidently, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
to explain yourself clearly, is really important. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
Hey, great to meet you both. I'm Jo. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
'Doing lots of debating when I was at school' | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
and university helped me to feel a lot more confident in court. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
Why is that any different to an ordinary manifesto pledge | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
where governments put things in that seem popular even if | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
they're not necessarily great for society as a whole? | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
That's a great point and I'm going to move onto that right now. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
The key thing you need to know is that basically there'll be a topic, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
and your job is to persuade the audience | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
that your side is the correct one. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
Normally each side takes it in turns to speak. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
Then often afterwards you'll have a floor debate | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
where people in the audience can also put across their view. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
So what are Jo's top tips for debating? | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
I think the first key thing is to plan properly. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
Once you know what you're talking about, make a list of points | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
and make sure that you have a clear structure. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
What we believe is that actually if students from the age of 16 | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
were allowed to vote, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:09 | |
that would make them more interested in the process. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
If you don't sound confident in | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
your arguments, nobody else will. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
You can't persuade people | 0:24:16 | 0:24:17 | |
if you sound nervous or you sound really unsure of what you're saying. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
Don't go too quickly. You need to be as loud as you can | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
without sounding like you're shouting. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
It's really important to make sure | 0:24:28 | 0:24:29 | |
that you project your voice. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:30 | |
You're not going to persuade people | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
if they can't hear what you're saying. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
Do you have any questions? | 0:24:34 | 0:24:35 | |
Do you have any recommendations of how you would overcome nerves | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
or finding things to say? | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
Sometimes it is really stressful. You stand up and suddenly all | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
the great arguments you'd thought of sort of disappear from your head. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
I think having some notes is a good idea. Not the full speech, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
but sort of key points of what you want to say. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
Just try to practise beforehand, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
maybe the first sentence of your speech | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
so that you've already said those words. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
When you get up, that means you're less likely to stutter or trip up. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
Munevver and Tionne only have half an hour | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
to prepare for a debate on the pros and cons of cosmetic surgery. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:17 | |
The other point is rephrasing this argument | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
so it's more compelling to... | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
Erm, everyone. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
Their moment has arrived. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
OK, so a very warm welcome, er, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
to our two teams who will be debating the motion, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
"This house believes that cosmetic surgery should be banned". | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
I'm Adam and I'm going to be debating, erm, like my colleague, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
that cosmetic surgery should be banned when it's not... | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
Munevver and her team-mate are on the proposition side | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
and have to convince the audience to vote to ban cosmetic surgery. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:01 | |
Once they've spoken, it's the turn of the opposition. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
It's a fact of life, some people are born more attractive than | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
others, er, and some are not. Surely it's a bonus of | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
the 21st century that someone who looks in the mirror and says, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
"I am unhappy with my face," | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
can go to the doctors and they can change that. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
Now it's Munevver's turn in the spotlight. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
A warm welcome to Munevver. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
Erm, yes, we believe that cosmetic surgery should be banned, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
but, in... | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
We think that... | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
With the... | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
Sorry. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:44 | |
NHS does not supply the surgery for people because it's not such an, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:51 | |
um, as essential as, like, a brain surgeon so they don't fund it. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:56 | |
Why should you choose...? | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
After a shaky start, Munevver soon grows in confidence. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
..a car accident. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
Some people just think that they would benefit from it | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
and they should have the right to do so. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
Cosmetic surgery is not something that saves lives, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
it just changes how you look. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:13 | |
Yes, it might be your ideal self, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
it might be how you want to look, that's the way you want to live, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
but it's not going to save anyone's life. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
It's now the turn of Tionne for the opposition. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
Firstly, people should look how they want to, they should | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
make their own choices. If you're depriving them of the choice | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
of getting cosmetic surgery, aren't you depriving them of their rights? | 0:27:35 | 0:27:41 | |
Also, cosmetic surgery can help increase someone's self esteem. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
What I mean by this is that there's a theory in psychology | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
that suggests people have an ideal self and an actual self, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
and to be a happy, happier person you must achieve your ideal self, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:58 | |
and cosmetic surgery could help this. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
This is why I believe that cosmetic surgery should not get banned | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
and I am requesting that you oppose this motion, thank you. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
It's now the time where we take a vote, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
so hands right in the air, all votes for the proposition please. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
And all the votes for the opposition. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
It's a good day to be in opposition, er, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
the opposition have it that this house would not ban cosmetic surgery. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
Oh, my God, the first time I stood up I just froze, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
I didn't know what to say. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
Well done, guys, that was brilliant. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
Really, really good for a first attempt. Did you enjoy it? | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
Yes, it was really exciting at first, I thought | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
I was going to not be able to speak at all | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
but when I said the first word, the rest came so it was fine. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
Your confidence really increased as you went on, I thought, | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
which was brilliant. How did you find it, Tionne? | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
It was good. As it goes on you get, like, really into it and then | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
you can just, like, question other people | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
and, yeah, it was really good. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
You were very confident from the beginning, really engaging. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
You both did a brilliant job. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:12 | |
That was really good to see. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
After the whole experience, how do you guys feel? | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
We had to debate about cosmetic surgery and that. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
I don't, I didn't even know, had done no research on it. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
I'm sure your nose is real, bro! | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
Like, no research at all. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
They said I'm doing debating and I was like, "No, I can't do that," | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
so, erm... But when I started, I did have a two minute break cos | 0:29:39 | 0:29:44 | |
I couldn't start, it was really embarrassing actually, but after | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
you say the first word it just all comes behind so it was fine. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
I've had many, many moments in my life | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
when I've been speaking to an audience, like, especially, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
I remember, like, I think my school took me | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
for this kind of conference meeting and I had to stand up and speak | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
in front them and literally I froze and I was just like, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
"I don't know what to say," | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
and every good point that I had in my head before, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
exactly what happens, like, erm, kind of, like, happened to me so... | 0:30:11 | 0:30:16 | |
If you think back to that, erm, moment, what would you have changed? | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
I would have tried to make myself more calm | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
and not nervous cos I was so nervous at first but after | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
I'd had a deep breath and everything, everything just came fluently. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
Even me being on stage, erm, I have to calm myself down, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
like, for my nerves, cos you get massive nerves before performing | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
in front of people. Before I go on stage I have to, like, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
relax myself and try and remember what I'm there for, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
what I'm there to say. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
A big thing in public speaking is, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
is to be massively confident and I think you guys did show confidence. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
Now, after having that experience of being able to | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
speak in front of an audience, | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
I think I would be able to do debating and it was... I enjoyed it. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
I like your mentality cos that's what made me | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
want to perform more. Even when it went wrong, it's like, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
it doesn't feel so bad when it goes wrong, it doesn't feel so bad. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
Now for a completely different way of speaking out. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
We're going to Chapel Market in North London. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
This is Esme. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
And this is Dayo. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
Today they're going to meet Tony Napolitano. He's a market trader. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:33 | |
Don't miss the cherry today, girls, 1.50 a pound | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
and they are marvellous. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
You can't buy better cherry anywhere for any price. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:43 | |
'I mean, originally my father and mother only sold bananas,' | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
nothing else, just had a banana stall. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
It's only when I took it over that we branched out a bit. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
Hi, I'm Esme. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:54 | |
Today, Dayo and Esme are going to step into Tony's shoes | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
and tout for business. | 0:31:58 | 0:31:59 | |
You'll have to watch me | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
-and try and pick it up cos I've been doing it a long time. -Yep. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
It's called "calling out". | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
English strawberry and raspberry and gooseberry today. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
'Well, it's a bit of an embarrassment, innit, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
'to stand shouting out in the street?' | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
But once you get used to it, once you start, then it's second nature. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:23 | |
Best of Kent, the strawberry. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
It looks quite nerve-racking to do. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
1.50 a pound, the cherry. 1.50 a pound, English strawberry. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
It's going to be a bit nerve-racking, shouting, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
he's always shouting out the cherries, so, yeah... | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
1.50 a pound cherry today. That's the bargain today, girls. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
Before they start, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
what are Tony's top tips for working on a market stall? | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
The message has to be the right message in the first place. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
You know, I mean, if you're | 0:32:52 | 0:32:53 | |
calling out with the right gear | 0:32:53 | 0:32:54 | |
at the right money, it sells itself. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
English strawberry, raspberry and gooseberry today. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:02 | |
'If people are queuing | 0:33:02 | 0:33:03 | |
'and you walk round' | 0:33:03 | 0:33:04 | |
and shout in their ear, they tend to turn round, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
give you a dirty look and walk straight up the road. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
Humour's good in any situation, innit? | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
You know, it's nice to have a bit of a repartee with your punters. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
They feel more at ease, they're more likely to come back. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
Don't miss the cherries today, girls, they are marvellous. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
-You've heard me calling out all day, haven't you? -Yeah. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
So, do you think you could give it the same? | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
Try and call 'em in? | 0:33:30 | 0:33:31 | |
OK. Wait, these are 1.50. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
But things get off to a quiet start. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
Let them know our strawberries are English. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
Tell them that, that the strawberries... | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
Strawberries are English. Would you like some cherries? | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
They just need to get a bit more confidence. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
Just with a little schooling they should be able to do it. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
You that side, tell them about our English strawberries. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
English strawberries from Kent. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
Come on, let's see you calling out with the cherries, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
we've got a lot to sell yet. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
Young man seems to be a bit more nervous but there again it's | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
only experience, it's only, you know, if you keep doing it, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:15 | |
same as anything, really, if you keep doing it long enough | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
you'll get better. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:19 | |
English strawberries, only £1.20. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
Come and get your cherries, 1.50. Best cherries ever. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:27 | |
English strawberries, raspberries and gooseberries, guys. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
1.50 cherries. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
£1, £1.20, English strawberries per box. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
Once they find their voices, however, business picks up. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
Strawberries, raspberries and gooseberries, guys. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
OK. Thanks. 30. That's 2.10. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
I was just a bit nervous. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:54 | |
As time went on, you start to get the hang of it, that, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
"Oh, well, you shout out | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
"people will, somebody in a car might just hear and come." | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
-Thanks. -£1.20 per box, English strawberries. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
It's not really in my personality to just, like, shout it out. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
English strawberries, guys, only 1.20 for a whole box. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
It took a bit of time to get used to, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
but after a while it was actually, like, quite fun. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
Come and get your cherries £1.50. English strawberries £1.20 per box. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:23 | |
-Thanks very much. -Thank you very much for your help. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
-Have a nice day. -Thank you, all the best, bye. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
Yeah they done very well for a first effort, all they need is | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
a little bit of experience and then they can both come and work for me. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:37 | |
I'd be happy to employ them. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:38 | |
Cool. Erm, welcome. I just wanted to know how you found it. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
-Erm, it was challenging to say... -Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
They were like, "You're going to be working on a market stall," | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
and I was like, I was so scared. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
When we went on it first it was really scary, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
but by the end it was all right. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
What kind of tricks or, like, ideas did your mentor give you? | 0:36:03 | 0:36:08 | |
Well, they just said that if you're confident then people will | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
see that you're confident in the things that you're selling. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
-Yeah, yeah, yeah. -Cos if you're not confident then | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
they're not going to be confident in buying it. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
-In buying it, yeah, yeah, yeah. -Once you get the hang of it | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
and you look like you know what you're doing, then people know. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
They start to see, like, a positive reaction? | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah? | 0:36:27 | 0:36:28 | |
I remember your mentor saying that the more you do it, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
the better you get at it...erm, you only had how much time? | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
Half an hour, I think, yeah. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
You guys done an amazing job, you sold products, that was, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
that's... You should be proud of yourself. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
Would you do it again? | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
I would do it again but I wouldn't do it as a job. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
All right, I just want to say congratulations, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
for what, of course, you and Dayo did. He couldn't make it today, so | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
you're speaking on behalf of him a team member...and, yeah, well done. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:59 | |
Thank you. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:00 | |
For our next Speak Out Challenge, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:04 | |
we're in London finding out how to interview people. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
It's not as easy as it looks. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
This is Toni. And this is Renee. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
Both from South London. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
Today, they'll be quizzing Bonita Norris, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
one of the youngest people in the UK to have climbed Mount Everest | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
with expert assistance from national news journalist Kimberley Dadds. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
So, Bonita, you climbed the biggest mountain in the world, erm... | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
I mean, tell me how did that feel? | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
Er...Everest definitely changed my life completely. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
The first big person I ever interviewed was actually Snoop Dogg, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
it was very intimidating, obviously. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
I was very starstruck, I was quite young at the time. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
And I just had to try and get it done and I did. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
How do you, kind of, move on from such a big thing like that, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
what, what's next? | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
People always said to me, "Oh, now you've done Everest, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
"there's no point climbing another mountain." | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
But for me that was just, like, that's crazy. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
So, what are Kimberley's top tips | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
for conducting an effective interview? | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
I think number one is just be confident, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
it will put your interviewee at ease. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
What on earth was it that possessed you to do this challenge? | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
Well, when I decided to climb Everest, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
I hadn't ever climbed before. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:22 | |
Number two, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
I'd say do a lot of research, | 0:38:24 | 0:38:25 | |
as a journalist you have | 0:38:25 | 0:38:26 | |
to do a lot of research and you need | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
to know what you're talking about. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
When you're, kind of, in the middle of the interview, just you've | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
got to kind of keep it going, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:35 | |
it's down to you, not the interviewee. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
So, I think it's just quite important to keep it, like, flowing, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
have a bit of conversation there. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
You might be a bit nervous, so you've got a list of questions | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
but just remember to listen to what they're actually saying, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
because they might have just told you something earth-shattering | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
or really important and interesting | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
and you don't want to just say, "OK, question number four is..." | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
So, you're both about to interview Bonita, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
are you feeling nervous or how are you feeling about it? | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
Er, I'm quite nervous because it's like the first interview I've done | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
but I'm looking forward to it at the same time cos it's a new experience. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
Yeah, I'm slightly nervous about it but it seems all right. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
I think the one thing I'd say is just enjoy it | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
and be confident, she's very lovely, it's a one-time opportunity. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:24 | |
Hi, Bonita, it's nice to meet you | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
and your story's really inspiring to, like, young children. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
Thank you. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
Erm, what inspired you to become a climber? | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
Erm, lots of different things inspired me. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
I had my childhood heroes, like, when I was growing up, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
their stories from when they actually were the first people | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
to summit Mount Everest in 1953, | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
I read their book and I just thought it was the most amazing thing. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
When you were climbing Mount Everest, did you, like, have | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
any, like, near-death experiences? | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
Yeah, I did, er, I guess probably more near-death experiences than | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
I realised because you could just be walking round a corner | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
on the mountain and just behind you a piece of ice might have | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
fallen down and I would never have known about it. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
Erm, in the Daily Mail it said that, erm, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
you was inspired by Bear Grylls, erm, account on his, erm, time... | 0:40:10 | 0:40:16 | |
What in his account inspired you? | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
Erm, I think, I remember hearing about Bear Grylls' story, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
because he had a really bad accident when he was in the Army, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
and to go from being so low and to setting a big challenge | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
for yourself and taking on a huge amount of risk, erm... | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
just massively inspired me that he actually stuck to his guns | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
and did it. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:37 | |
Toni and Renee start confidently but then grind to a halt. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
Can't remember now. Gosh! | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
But they quickly recover. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
Um, like, what career choice would you have | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
if you hadn't begun to climb in the first place? | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
Erm, I think I would probably be doing something with... | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
kids anyway, like teaching or something. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
So, for you, what's the best thing about what you do, like, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
what do you find is most interesting about it? | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
What I love about climbing is just the moments that are, | 0:41:06 | 0:41:11 | |
like, so unique and special. Just see the most amazing views, like the | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
mountains spread out below you, the Himalayas, sunrises and you just | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
think, "Wow, I am the only person in the world who can see this." | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
Now, all that's left is to wrap up the interview. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
So, like, have you got any more, like, challenges, like, planned? | 0:41:31 | 0:41:36 | |
For the future, I'd love to go back to the Himalayas | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
and also I love climbing in the UK. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
Well, it was really nice to meet you | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
and, like, everything you've said has been really helpful. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
Thanks very much. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
-Yeah, it was really nice meeting you, thanks. -Thank you. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
I think you both did really well, so well done. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
You did a lot of the things that I said. Like you did | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
bounce off what she had been telling you | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
and reacting rather than just sticking to the interview, so... | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
it was really good. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:06 | |
I think you did really well and the questions are really good, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
lots of research there. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:11 | |
Did you enjoy it? | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
Yeah, I enjoyed it. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:14 | |
I'd love to do it again. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:15 | |
What's up? Welcome. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:23 | |
How did you guys feel in the whole experience | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
and what was it like for you? | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
In the beginning it was kind of nervous | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
but, as the day progressed, it got easier. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
-Yeah? -Yeah, definitely I'd agree with that. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
I remembered your mentor saying it's, like, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
incredibly important to be prepared. Did you guys find that difficult? | 0:42:35 | 0:42:41 | |
Well, we'd already, like, prepared some questions so we had those but | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
after those questions were finished we couldn't, like, just stop the | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
interview so we had to react on how she replied to our questions... | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
-OK. -..and carry it on from there. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
It was awkward at first, cos you couldn't think of anything | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
but after a while it just became more natural. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
It was more natural, yeah. | 0:42:58 | 0:42:59 | |
This is something that happens to me all the time, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
I get interviewed by journalists, if they're not prepared with their | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
questions or they don't do their research, like you girls did your | 0:43:04 | 0:43:09 | |
research, like, I think that makes an interview very interesting. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
You can tell when someone doesn't know what they're talking about | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
and you know, like, they were just told to do it. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
I think some of the facts and stuff that you guys brought to her | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
and the questions that you asked her showed her that you were | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
interested in her background and what she's done. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
Personally, I think you guys done a great job and I would have | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
loved to be interviewed by you both. Erm, well done, man. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 | |
BOTH: Thank you. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:36 | |
So, how can you really engage an audience with the power of speech? | 0:43:39 | 0:43:43 | |
We go to Cardiff to find out. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:44 | |
This is Safoua and this is Owen. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
Today, they're going to meet | 0:43:53 | 0:43:55 | |
Mark Miodownik - | 0:43:55 | 0:43:56 | |
he's a scientist. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:57 | |
Tell me what the most important invention of all time was. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
-The wheel. -The wheel? | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
I mean, I love working out how the world works, I never tire of it. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
-Yeah? -Fire. -Fire, thank you very much. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
One of my biggest fears as a kid was I'd get bored. I had all these games | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
and things, I'd get bored of them - I never got bored of science. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
As well as doing science, Mark also talks about it to encourage people | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
to get involved themselves. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
As soon as you start cooking, you realise that you have to eat | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
with your hands. They build the pyramids, they build ships, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:25 | |
they build cities but they're still eating with their hands. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
Safoua and Owen are going to try and do what Mark does. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
Get up on the stage and try | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
and make an audience enthusiastic about something they love. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
The first couple of times you ever gave a talk, how did you... | 0:44:37 | 0:44:41 | |
how did you overcome your nerves? | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
One trick I did is, I started to write out the first two sentences | 0:44:43 | 0:44:47 | |
I was going to say and learned them, so that I knew I had it in my head. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
When you're on stage and people start talking, like, | 0:44:51 | 0:44:55 | |
while you're talking, what should you do? | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
Become completely silent and stand there and actually it's | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
amazing how a crowd will pick up on that and go silent themselves. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
Before they get up on stage, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
what are Mark's top tips for engaging an audience? | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
So my top tips are, first of all, be real. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
I mean, that's easier | 0:45:11 | 0:45:12 | |
said than done, I know, | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
but they've got to believe that you are saying this from the heart. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:19 | |
This stuff has an amazing property. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:20 | |
Not only because it doesn't rust, OK, hence the word stainless, | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
but... | 0:45:23 | 0:45:24 | |
'It's really important to realise' | 0:45:26 | 0:45:27 | |
that you're striking up | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
a relationship with an audience. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
It doesn't taste of anything. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
That means you actually have to | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
look at them and talk to them and engage them. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
But look, you don't realise how incredible that is. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
'Basically almost all communication to humans' | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
is about storytelling, | 0:45:43 | 0:45:44 | |
that's how we understand things. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
So if you're trying to | 0:45:46 | 0:45:47 | |
explain anything at all - | 0:45:47 | 0:45:48 | |
the birth of stars, how the biology of the womb works - | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
tell a story. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:51 | |
All of history has been waiting for this material | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
and it took until the 20th century to invent it. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
The most important thing is that | 0:45:58 | 0:45:59 | |
they feel that you care about | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
this, that you're passionate | 0:46:01 | 0:46:02 | |
about what you're talking about. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:03 | |
You've got to get passionate about them. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
It's 100 years old today | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
and it allows us to finally get the benefits of inventing fire. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:46:11 | 0:46:15 | |
The time has come for Owen and Safoua to take to the stage. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
Nervous, obviously, but looking forward to it. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
And it feels like it's going to last an hour instead of two minutes. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
I'm not really looking forward to it, but I'll try my best. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
And so I hope that you can give them a warm round of applause | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
and welcome Owen. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
Hi, I'm Owen, and I'm going to talk to you about games for a bit. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
So, do you have any games that you really like to play, | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
that you think are cool? | 0:46:47 | 0:46:48 | |
-You, right here in the front. -Me? | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
Yeah, what kind of games do you like to play? | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
-Grand Theft Auto. -Oh, nice. Well, I'm going to talk about | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
a slightly different kind of game, it's bridge, it's a card game. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
Do any of you have any idea what kind of game it is? | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
-Yeah? -Do you stack the cards up? | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
Not quite, that would be a house of cards. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
Bridge is... I'm going to tell you why I like it. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
It's a very old game | 0:47:09 | 0:47:10 | |
and in bridge you have a partner, so it's a team sport, | 0:47:10 | 0:47:14 | |
so if you do badly... | 0:47:14 | 0:47:15 | |
Owen starts confidently and even throws in a joke. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
There is an old bridge expression | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
which is that you should never, ever play bridge with your wife, | 0:47:20 | 0:47:24 | |
cos you'll just end up getting a divorce. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
I think it's just a fantastic game, it's really tense. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
So I really think you guys should give it a go. Thank you. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
That was Owen. Everybody, a big hand for Owen. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
He did brilliantly well. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
So we've got one more for you. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
Give a big, very warm round of applause to Safoua. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
Safoua's only been speaking English for two years, | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
so it's an even bigger challenge for her. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
She's going to talk about | 0:47:49 | 0:47:51 | |
her favourite dish from her homeland - couscous. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:53 | |
Hello, my name is Safoua and I'm Algerian, | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
I've been here for two years. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
I just want to ask you, have you ever tried couscous before? | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
Most times when I go to the shops I see people buying it | 0:48:01 | 0:48:05 | |
with salads and stuff, | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
but today I want to talk to you about how to cook it properly | 0:48:07 | 0:48:12 | |
in, like, a traditional way. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
You cook it, like, in water with salt, twice. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:20 | |
You can serve it with fish sauce, chicken sauce and lamb. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:24 | |
In the sauce you can have spices, | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
chickpeas, vegetables, water, | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
herbs, onions and courgettes. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
It's made a month before it's actually served, | 0:48:34 | 0:48:39 | |
because it needs to get dried for so many days. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
And I hope you enjoy it and try it, when you have time. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:46 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
I can't speak right now. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
Good, I'm shaking now, | 0:48:57 | 0:48:59 | |
I'm more nervous now than I was before. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
I think what you did really well is that you meant it. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
That this came from... They could tell it was not fake, it was you, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
you were speaking as yourself about something you cared about, | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
and that's not easy to do. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
Cos often people become someone else in this situation | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
and you did it really well. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
You did the brilliant thing | 0:49:17 | 0:49:18 | |
at the beginning of interacting with the audience. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
It's quite a hard thing to do on your first talk. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:22 | |
You didn't say, "Who?" and then just race on, | 0:49:22 | 0:49:24 | |
but you actually picked a few other people out. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
I thought that was really good. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:28 | |
You left them wanting to hear more. That's good. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
Was that the biggest audience | 0:49:38 | 0:49:39 | |
you guys have been in front of, or spoken to? | 0:49:39 | 0:49:41 | |
Yeah, definitely, it was. It was nerve-racking, | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
but it was a good experience, good thing to do. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
-Yeah? -I was really scared. -Yeah? -And I couldn't stand up, | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
like, literally I was, like, shaking the whole way... | 0:49:49 | 0:49:53 | |
Yeah, I was, like, dying. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
Now, do you know, I had exactly the same thing | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
when I was first, like, | 0:49:58 | 0:49:59 | |
kind of going on stage to perform as an artist | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
and I was like this... | 0:50:02 | 0:50:03 | |
Erm, my name is Labrinth and... I need to go home. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
Like, I think, personally, you guys done amazing, | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
because to take it all the way to the end, | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
you could have just walked off the stage | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
and been like, "I can't do this." | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
It was actually surprising for me | 0:50:18 | 0:50:19 | |
because I didn't think they would say anything. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
-Yeah, yeah, yeah. -And they wouldn't cooperate with me, | 0:50:22 | 0:50:24 | |
And then when I asked them and they answered, | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
I was like, "OK, they're actually listening to me." | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
-Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. -And that gave me back a bit of confidence. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
Did you guys learn any tricks that you could maybe use | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
in other circumstances or situations? | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
He said to not be too serious | 0:50:38 | 0:50:39 | |
and, like, I think it was good to keep in mind | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
to kind of joke about a bit and not just be like, "Bridge..." | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
Yeah, yeah, this is what it is. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:47 | |
I think it was a good experience that I can use in, like, the future | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
maybe in school assemblies and stuff. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:52 | |
-Do you think you will be a lot less scared? -Yeah. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
-You guys done a great job. -Thank you. -Without a doubt! | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
Next up it's another kind of audience - tourists. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
What speaking skills does it take to introduce them to London? | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
This is Shade. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:12 | |
And this is Kai. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:15 | |
They've lived in London all their lives, | 0:51:17 | 0:51:18 | |
but they've never had to describe it to strangers before. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
On the left-hand side of the bridge is the world-famous Tower of London. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
Today they're going to meet Paul Prentice. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
It dates back to 1078. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
He's a pleasure-boat captain and tour guide on the Thames. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:35 | |
I've been working on the river... it must be 40-odd years now, | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
and I think it was my first couple of days in, | 0:51:38 | 0:51:42 | |
I was going around the handrail | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
and I was watching my feet to see where I'm stepping, | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
then all of a sudden there was no handrail, so off I went. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
As well as skippering the boat, | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
Paul also tells the passengers | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
about the famous London sights along the way. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
I am sure you'll recognise Christopher Wren's masterpiece, | 0:51:56 | 0:52:00 | |
St Paul's Cathedral. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
We take tourists from Westminster Pier onto Greenwich. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:06 | |
Within that journey, we point out the places of interest | 0:52:06 | 0:52:10 | |
which we pass on to our passengers. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:12 | |
Kai and Shade are getting thrown in at the deep end. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:16 | |
They'll see if they can tell a boat full of tourists | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
about London's rich history. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:22 | |
Speak nice and clearly and slowly. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:28 | |
-Feeling nervous? -Yeah, a little bit. -A little bit. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:30 | |
You'll be all right. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:31 | |
Get them first few words out and then you'll cruise along. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
So what are Paul's top tips for tour guides | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
to ensure it's all plain sailing? | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
Looking to our right-hand side is the London Eye. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
Speak as slowly and as clearly as possible. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
The first time you do it, | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
you obviously start to dry up. But you've got to keep calm | 0:52:51 | 0:52:53 | |
and you've got to keep battling on through it, you know? | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
On your left is Somerset House. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
I should imagine it's like an artist at a theatre, | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
if they're getting the crowd behind them, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
they'll give 100%. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:06 | |
Once you get into it, you can see people enjoying it. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
What we're going to do now, ladies and gentlemen, | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
one of my young colleagues here, | 0:53:12 | 0:53:13 | |
they're going to have a little go now | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
at telling you about some of these interesting buildings. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
It's a daunting task. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
The white vessel coming up now is the HMS President, | 0:53:24 | 0:53:28 | |
which was fought throughout World War I | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
and was used during World War II as a decoy vessel. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
And to begin with, Kai and Shade are obviously nervous. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
If we keep looking to our left, | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
there are a few interesting buildings, | 0:53:40 | 0:53:43 | |
the first one is the red Gothic-style building. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
Kai and Shade are just too quiet, | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
and the passengers are getting restless. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
You can see the top parts of the bridge have been removed, | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
the pillars are only to be remained. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:58 | |
PASSENGER: Speak up! | 0:53:58 | 0:54:00 | |
But Kai keeps calm and carries on. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:03 | |
Here on your left, also you can see the school. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
It was the first-ever public school for boys | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
and many famous people attended, | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
such as Sir Winston Churchill. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
Now directly ahead of us there is a series of three bridges, | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
the first one is Blackfriars. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
With more guidance from Paul, | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
Shade and Kai soon grow in confidence. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
The white building with the red roof | 0:54:25 | 0:54:26 | |
is the New Globe Playhouse Theatre. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
It has been built near the site of the original Globe | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
and it was once, at the original theatre, | 0:54:32 | 0:54:34 | |
where many of Shakespeare's plays were first performed. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:38 | |
Now ahead of us is the Southwark Road Bridge, | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
it's probably the most unused bridge | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
to span the tidal Thames. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
If you do see anyone walking across the bridge, | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
do give them a wave because they're probably lost. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:51 | |
When I stopped thinking about them and started thinking more about | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
what I was actually meant to be pointing out, | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
I think it went a bit better. | 0:54:57 | 0:54:58 | |
Coming into your view, | 0:54:58 | 0:54:59 | |
you'll see the tallest building in Western Europe. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
This is the Shard, and it's supposed to represent a shard of glass. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
When there's people that you don't know and it's a bit... | 0:55:04 | 0:55:09 | |
You get a bit nervous at first. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
But when I gained confidence, I spoke up a bit. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
The bridge that we are about to pass beneath is New London Bridge, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:18 | |
it was opened by Her Majesty the Queen back in 1974. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:22 | |
It's made me a bit more confident at speaking. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
At first, I was a bit nervous, | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
but towards the end I think I got a bit better. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
Yeah, you did, both of yous. You started off a little bit... | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
But you could see you was getting more and more confident by the end. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
90-odd people we had, and for them to stand up there, | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
never, ever done it before, I thought they done brilliant. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
I wanted to ask you guys how was it for you | 0:55:53 | 0:55:55 | |
and what was the experience like? | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
I was quite nervous. | 0:55:58 | 0:55:59 | |
-Oh, seriously? -Got a little bit more confident towards the end. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:03 | |
What kind of tricks did, erm, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
did your mentor teach you that you feel like you could | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
take into a career that you want to go into? | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
Maybe if I wanted to be, I don't know, a lecturer or something, | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
-cos I've never talked in front of that many people. -Seriously? | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
But, yeah, he taught me to just calm and breathe and also be clear. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:21 | |
I've learnt that the more that you practise something, | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
the better you will get at it. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
And when you do speak in front of people, | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
you need to remember that you need to speak slowly and clearly. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
Tinie Tempah said, when he started in the music business, | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
he was like, he used to go to clubs and he was so shy, like, | 0:56:36 | 0:56:40 | |
nobody could hear what he was saying. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:42 | |
So he would come off stage and think, like, | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
he'd done a really bad job. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:46 | |
But it would be like, "Well, mate, I didn't hear anything you said, | 0:56:46 | 0:56:49 | |
"so how was I supposed to enjoy your performance?" | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
So that would probably be something he learnt from, | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
and, of course, when you hear Tinie Tempah on stage, he's just like, | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
"Gah!" He's louder than the music now. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:00 | |
I remember, like, while you were reading your scripts, | 0:57:00 | 0:57:03 | |
-someone said something. What did they say? -Speak up. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
How did that affect your performance? | 0:57:06 | 0:57:10 | |
Erm, well, it told me that some people can't hear me, | 0:57:10 | 0:57:13 | |
but also threw me off a bit, cos I was reading. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
I've had a few shows where I've been performing | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
and people would, like, heckle. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:21 | |
It's something that could throw you off while you're performing. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:24 | |
But I've always learnt from, like, | 0:57:24 | 0:57:26 | |
some of the artists I've worked with, like, even Emeli, | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
I remember her saying that, like, you know, | 0:57:29 | 0:57:32 | |
when you go on stage you have to forget | 0:57:32 | 0:57:34 | |
that you're sometimes in front of an audience | 0:57:34 | 0:57:36 | |
and you've got to, like, enjoy it for yourself before they enjoy it. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:40 | |
It's almost like you've got to put a little force field in front of you | 0:57:40 | 0:57:43 | |
and just say, "I came here to enjoy myself, | 0:57:43 | 0:57:45 | |
"I came here to give you my information, | 0:57:45 | 0:57:47 | |
"are you ready to hear what I've got to say?" | 0:57:47 | 0:57:49 | |
No, I think you guys done absolutely amazing. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:55 | |
Learning how to speak out in different circumstances, | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
from news reporting to sports commentating, | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
from reading poetry to debating, | 0:58:03 | 0:58:05 | |
is a massively useful skill to have. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
And if there's one top tip to take away, it's be confident. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:12 | |
So, what you waiting for? Express yourself! | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
# I say the same thing twice I'm awkward when I speak | 0:58:21 | 0:58:26 | |
# Ain't got the perfect smile Don't turn heads on my street | 0:58:26 | 0:58:31 | |
# Trying to be a superstar Like everybody else | 0:58:31 | 0:58:36 | |
# But being myself is something I do well | 0:58:36 | 0:58:41 | |
# Express yourself | 0:58:41 | 0:58:43 | |
# Express yourself | 0:58:46 | 0:58:51 | |
# Said, see, it's not what you look like | 0:58:51 | 0:58:55 | |
# When you're doin' what you're doin' | 0:58:55 | 0:58:56 | |
# Express yourself. # | 0:58:56 | 0:58:58 | |
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