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This is Business Live from BBC News with Rachel Horne and Sally Bundock.

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Europe's biggest bank sees profits take a dramatic dive.

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HSBC says it's been facing volatile market conditions.

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Live from London, that's our top story on Tuesday February 21st.

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Annual profits for HSBC collapsed by more than 60%.

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Our economics editor Kamal Ahmed will talk us through what this

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means for the bank - and the sector as a whole.

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YouTube scraps those 30 second ads it's impossible to skip through.

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Good news for viewers, maybe - but what will it mean

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And investors are grappling with the latest results

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from several key companies - we talk you through the good,

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This is how Europe's markets outside jesting them at the moment.

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And we'll be meeting the only living person who has invented and been

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implanted with a medical device to cure their own chronic

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It's called the Vibrant Soundbridge, and has given Geoffrey

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Workers in Australia's tax office have refused bosses' pleas

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to extend their working day from 4:51pm to 5pm.

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comments on that and other stories we are covering today, it is a

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packed agenda. Full year results for banking giant

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HSBC has come in quite a bit below Pre-tax profit fell 62%

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from the previous year, with the bank calling it a period

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remembered for its largely unexpected economic

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and political events. The net profit of $7.1 billion

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compared with $18.87 billion recorded in 2015, and group chairman

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Douglas Flint says geopolitical changes contributed to volatile

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financial market conditions. Last year HSBC agreed to pay

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$1.6 billion dollars to end a class action lawsuit over its involvement

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in the US sub-prime mortgage scandal That is just one element that has

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been going on. It's also facing pressure

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to tighten up safeguards US regulators have said HSBC

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has made some progress And all this comes as the bank

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closes an additional 62 branches in the UK on top of the 55 announced

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last year and tries to recover from the reputational damage caused

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by being found guilty of taking part That is like many of its peers.

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Rachel, over to you. Our economics editor

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Kamal Ahmed is with me. Thank you for coming in. Sally has

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run through some of the issues, that drop in profits as much larger than

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expected, but overall, what has been the reaction? Overall the share

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price has come off a little bit, down almost 5%, but lots of that is

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to do with profit-taking, HSBC shares have gone up by over 50%

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since the referendum in the UK last summer. It said it would execute a

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$1 billion share buy-back. That was a little disappointing to some

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shareholders who said it would be around $3 billion, so shares have

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been a bit softer because of that. It shows two things, firstly it is

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very hard to make money in banking in this low interest rates, low

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inflation world we still inhabit. Secondly, global shots for a global

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bank, things like Brexit, the election victory of Donald Trump, me

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that trading tends to slightly softened, revenue is slightly

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softened and profits soften slightly. In overall terms, HSBC is

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robust, it revealed that its capital ratio, its core capital is now above

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13%, well above target, so it is a very robust balance sheet. What

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shareholders want to see is what is HSBC going to do without money, it

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has been selling assets in dealing with reputational damage that Sally

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spoke about, what would it do to reinvigorate growth and rebuild its

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business in Asia? Donald Trump Brexit, they were issues the global

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finance and trade, and perhaps the rising protectionism for a bank like

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HSBC, a global bank which gets a lot of business from global trade. Going

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forward, what impact will it have on the bank? Is two thirds of HSBC's

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profit comes from Asia and there is a trade war between and China, which

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President Trump has threatened at least, not gone through with yet but

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threatens, that could be damaging to trade around the world. HSBC is one

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of the biggest banks in trading so that could be something on its

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profits. At the moment there is a sense that this might be the dock

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before the sunlight, we have these big fiscal boosts possibly coming

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for America, cutting corporation tax, the release of animal spirits

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in the US economy, that would be very good for HSBC. What about in

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terms of who was running the bank in the future? Douglas Flint is

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expected to retire and we do not know who will succeed him, Richard

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Gulliver is expected to move on in the next few years? HSBC was always

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a business promoted from within, it has never had an external Chief

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Executive or Chairman, some shareholders are pushing for outside

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blood. No real detail on how that is going, there is a process and

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Douglas Flint and Stuart Gulliver are due to move on. There are 2

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megabits candidacy would look at, both Portuguese, there is the head

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of UK and European HSBC and the chief executive of Lloyds bank, one

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of the other big banks in the UK commerce and big candidates. There

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are not that many people Houara chelated in the right way with the

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right skill set to run a massive global bank. There is only a handful

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of people, there could be an internal candidate, it could be

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external, shareholders are most at -- are more focused on whether

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bankers going to do Stuart Gulliver rather than what will happen next. I

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am sure you will be putting this on the website? May well be! Is that an

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order?! Some other stories, it is an extremely busy day.

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The world's biggest miner, BHP Billiton, reports

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a near eight-fold rise in underlying first-half net profit

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to $3.24 billion from $412 million a year earlier.

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And shareholders received a bigger than expected dividend

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of 40 cents a share, signalling its growing

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confidence amid a resurgence in commodity prices.

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Good news for Intercontinental Group shareholders -

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the hotel group reveals it is to issue a special

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$400 million dividend for shareholders and an 11% increase

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This comes as the UK-listed owner of Holiday Inn reports a 9.5%

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increase in underlying profit to $702 million for 2016.

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And YouTube is to scrap unskippable 30-second advertisements from 2018.

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Google has confirmed that it will focus on formats that work well

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for both users and advertisers, and says long unskippable adverts

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on the video-streaming service are seen as a nuisance by many

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I can hear you all cheering as I read that out loud!

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Let's look at what is on the tablet and sticking with HSBC, all those

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banking stories making the headlines. The plunger natures BC

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shares, lots of other banks are reporting this week as well. -- the

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plunge in HSBC shares. We chatted to Kamal before we came on air and we

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talk about how the falls on the FTSE, he believes they are more

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profit-taking, people selling of shares they bought in anticipation

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of a larger buy-back scheme. They announced the share buy-back of

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$1 billion, they expected it to be larger than that, it has done a

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previous one of $2.5 billion. As Kamal Ahmed mentioned, profits are

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up 50% since the June referendum. Always lots of layers in these

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figures. Troubled Japanese technology giant

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Toshiba wants to raise $8.8 billion from the sale of most

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or all of its flash chip business. Tell us some more about this story?

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Toshiba's microchips are mostly used on mobiles and tablets and it is one

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of the conglomerate's most valuable businesses, if reports are accurate

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they are considering a sell-off of majority stake to raise up to $8

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billion, a much bigger slice of the business than the 19.9% they

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previously said they would sell. Why some of the Crown Jewels? Toshiba is

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trying to plug a big hole in finances due to a write-off of its

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US nuclear division. One credit ratings agency said that the rating

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might be smashed as a result, bad news for investors, said they were

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not enthusiastic about the sale today. Toshiba stocks rose almost 2%

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in early trading but closed about 1.39% lower. Thank you. That is one

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of the shares on the move in Asia, another stock on the move was HSBC,

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it is listed in Hong Kong as well as London, its shares in Hong Kong were

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head quite badly when the results came out, shares down on the Hang

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Seng something like 3.5%. That is ready's close for the States, it was

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President's Day on Monday so no action on Wall Street yesterday,

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they will reopen after a nice long bank holiday weekend.

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Let's look at Europe, BHP Billiton shares are doing nicely if we can

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move on to the European markets. And Anglo-American as well came out with

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results very similar to BHP, a real turnaround, losses last year, big

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profits this year, commodity prices have been on the way up. In

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particular, metals. Not enough to boost the FTSE. HSBC is lower,

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mining stocks higher, the FTSE down by almost 0.4%, the European markets

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are headed lower. Back to Rachel. Mike Amey, managing director

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and portfolio manager Thank you for coming in. I will bore

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you with banking, we started with HSBC, lots of the banking stocks are

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down this morning, on the FTSE. Lloyds are down 1%, RBS 1.3%,

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Barclays 1.45%, Standard Chartered 2%. The banking sector has done very

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well, posed Brexit, a big bounce, HSBC up 50%, so a bit of

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nervousness. The other thing that is going on is in the HSBC commentary,

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basically the amount of money they make on their day-to-day business

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looks like it is coming in lower than expected. Roughly speaking,

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they take deposits offers and land them on mortgages to us or others,

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the differential between those is how they make money, when interest

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rates are low, that squeezes profits. Is that why did the dens

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are so important right now, another way of getting money in when

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interest rates are so low? -- is that why dividends are so important?

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Intercontinental hotels, Anglo-American and BHP are saying

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the dividends are there, they are upping them? We are all looking for

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ways to get income, frankly, with low interest rates. Sustaining the

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dividend is very important. Prices because people look at other ways.

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Bank deposits, they say they will not get income so if there are other

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ways to do it safely they will, so the message about keeping the

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dividend is trying to reinforce that.

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Aside from banking stocks reporting we have minutes from the latest

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Federal Reserve meeting coming out on Wednesday, what are we looking

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for? Not everybody is at superlow interest rates and staying there,

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the Federal Reserve has raised interest rates already and the

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question is how quickly. They raised rates in December, these minutes

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will be all about March or June. Our best guess is probably June rather

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than March, if they have a decent couple of months worth of data

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perhaps Marge, rates are going up somewhere, not all bad news.

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You are coming back to do the papers, see you later.

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We will find out how much might can do in terms of productivity in nine

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minutes. He is thinking about that now.

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Using wearable tech to tackle disability.

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We'll meet the man whose revolutionary hearing implant

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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British house-builder Galliford Try has just announced a 19% rise

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in pre-tax profits in its latest half year results.

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The firm has set new house-building targets of 5000

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Theo Leggett has been crunching the numbers.

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would seem for these kind of house-builders that they are doing

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extremely well? They are, good times for the house-builders because there

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is so much demand for residential property in this country. According

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to the Government's house-building white paper, that will continue, so

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Gulliver try is pinning its hopes on that. The press release says they

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are strengthening their foundations to support strategy for growth, the

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worst plan of the day, in my opinion, but looking at the three

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areas of their business, Linden homes, probably the most

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recognisable brand, their main residential property building on,

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that has very good rotted margins at the moment, it currently builds

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around 1500 houses a year and wants to increase that to more than 5000.

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It also has its partnership and regeneration division working with

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local authorities to build affordable housing, that is all

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doing rather well, expanding with reasonable profit margins. There is

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another area that is business that generates big revenue but poor

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margins, its infrastructure and construction business. That is wafer

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thin margins at the moment. The picture overall is very good,

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revenues increase profit margins are very good, but that part of the

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business is looking comparatively weak.

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It is hard to gauge where things will go next. There are a loft

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elements that are good and strong. But we were talking to the boss of

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Redrow after that White Paper was released. If you read the statement

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that Galliford Try put out this morning, they state we continue to

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monitor market conditions and consumer confidence closely and are

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mindful of the uncertainty in the economic environment. Who would not

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be right now? There is so much uncertainty out there. They say as

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emphasised by the housing White Paper, the Government remains

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committed to increasing housing supply. They say the market

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continues to enjoy good mortgage availability along with low interest

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rates and the stimulus of Help To Buy. The outlook seems good for

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them. They are taking advantage and they are planning to expand.

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You see how much Theo Leggett can do in less than nine minutes. We thank

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you for your time. You're watching Business Live.

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Our top story: Europe's biggest bank

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sees its annual profits HSBC says volatile market

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conditions are to blame. A quick look at how

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the markets are faring. We have had results from many

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companies. Take a look at the Business Live page. It will detail

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it all for you and also talk you through the various winners and

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losers. The innovators behind tech companies

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often have extraordinary stories. But few can match the experience

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of the next person we're featuring in our week long

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Disability Works series. Geoffrey Ball is the chief

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technology officer of Med-El, which is a global company

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researching the field of hearing loss and making

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implantable hearing systems. Geoffrey developed hearing loss

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as a child, but later became frustrated by traditional hearing

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aids, so searched After completing a biomedical

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degree, he worked in the field of neuroscience, biomedical

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and auditory research. This lead him to develop

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and personally test a middle ear implant, known as the Vibrant

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Soundbridge. His situation is unusual

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because he is both inventor and patient of the medical device

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aimed at curing a chronic Geoffrey Ball is Chief Technology

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Officer at MED-EL and joins us. Good to see you. Welcome to the

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programme. Thank you. Just tell us the story from the beginning. We do

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hear of people struggling with hearing loss or profound deafness,

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but you don't hear of them fixing the problem themselves. It is very

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unusual. Yes, well, I lost my hearing as a toddler. I had a high

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fever and after that I could no longer hear. I wore hearing aids for

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a long time. I grew up in Silicon Valley, California and I got help

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from special educators and from speech pathologists and I was quite

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lucky. But hearing aids never worked for me. They just made everything

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louder, but they didn't make everything clearer. So I decided

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well, I'm going to come up with something I want, an implant that's

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going to fix it because you have to go into the ear. I asked my doctors

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at Stamford University when is the implant coming? They said next year.

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After several years of that, I finally graduated from university

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and I said maybe I can come to the lab and help you out. So I spent

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years working in the lab. I didn't have an epiphany. I worked out how

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to make an implant that would work and I started the company and that's

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how we went. In terms of your eureka moment, building that device that

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worked. For many inventors, that's going to bring a certain level of

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pleasure and satisfaction, but for you, it wasn't that achievement, it

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was going to improve your life? It was going to improve my life, but it

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was a sense of relief because I built hundreds of devices that

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didn't work, and to come up with the one that did work was a great day

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and then, of course, the real challenge happened. This happened in

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my garage in Silicon Valley which is located around the corner from Steve

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Jobs' garage who started this fruit company called Apple! I hope he did

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OK with that! And today, that's probably the last medical device

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that will come out of a garage like that! Just tell us, you created the

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device. You then had to raise funding to launch it, start a

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company and then tell us about the day you tried to launch? Well, when,

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first I had to get the device implanted and having your own device

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implanted and having it work was really, like I was so happy and that

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was great. You could hear things that I never heard before like

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birds. I never heard wind blowing through the trees, but then we went

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to launch the product and we did trials in Europe and we got approved

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here and we were doing very well as a company and then we launched the

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company. I had about 150 employees, I had my doctors, at a conference in

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the United States and we launched it on the worst day in history to

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launch a company which was 11th September 2001. After that, it was

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really hard for us to even talk about elective implants for people.

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So, inventors and the leaders in the field of cock lard implants bought

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my company and moved me to Austria my company and moved me to Austria

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and I have been working there for 15 years and we have tens of thousands

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people now implanted with the devices and we have a family of

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hearing products for different types of hearing loss. You talk about how,

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you know, if somebody has eyesight problems, they go to an optician and

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there are lots of different options and you would go and a hearing aid

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was the only option? You've revolutionised that right now? It

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was just a hearing aid. I didn't want those. They don't work very

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well for all people. Hearing aids have got much better. They work well

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for mild and moderate hearing loss. There are several companies that now

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sell them. But for what is so cool is today for kids with profound

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hearing loss and severe hearing loss, they have so many options that

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I never had. And they have cock lard implants which use lick theatrical

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stimulation, we have the sound bridge which uses the middle ear and

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what the positions have done is so amazing, and also we implanted some

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of our first devices here at St Tom's right here in London so it is

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good to be here. Geoffrey, it is fascinating to hear

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your story. Thank you for coming in and tell us about it. I'm really

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glad that you were determined. It changed thousands of people's lives.

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Geoffrey Ball Chief Medical Officer at MED-EL.

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You can find out more about the weeks coverage

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at bbc.co.uk/disability and on social media search

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It is a theme we're following. The challenges of disability in the

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workplace. In a moment we'll take a look

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find us on Facebook Business Live on TV and online,

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whenever you need to know. What did you achieve in your nine

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minutes? The story is an Australian story about one of the Government

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agencies trying to extend the working day at the moment. It

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finishes at 4.51 and the hope was to get it to 5pm which was, which the

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employees stuck with 4.51, that extra nine minutes is really what

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the Government was trying to get out of their employees. They were

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pushing it, saying it would increase productivity. What do you guys think

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you can do in nine minutes. Mason says make a cup of tea. Relax.

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Regain used energy. Somebody else said they could close a sale in nine

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minutes. Yes! , "Just pay them more if you want them to work for it. You

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get nothing for nothing." They were offering a slight pay rise, but the

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nine minutes added up to... Five days a year. There are various ways

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you could do that. You could put it as a perk. If you do an extra nine

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minutes, you get five days off extra holiday! Talking about the cost of

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moving or having Americans make the stuff that many are making in

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factories in Asia? There is the challenge with where production is

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located and trade particularly under the new US presidency and it looks

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as if this one is about whatever happens, it will be much cheaper to

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make it in China. We'll keep an eye on that. It is a big issue at the

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moment. There will be more business news

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throughout the day on the BBC Live webpage and on World Business

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Report. Hello. In some parts of the British

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Isles Monday turned out to be a glorious day. Our Weather Watchers

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were out and about capturing the best of it and the temperatures

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caught the eye as well. Widely well on into the teens across the British

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