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This is Business Live from BBC News with Sally Bundock and Rachel Horne.

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The scandal engulfing Samsung has come to a head as the heir

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to the business is charged with bribery, and three

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Live from London, that's our top story on Tuesday, 27th February.

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South Korean prosecutors have confirmed they will charge this man

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Jay Y Lee, the third generation leader of Samsung,

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The scandal has rocked South Korea to its core.

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We'll have the latest from our team in the region.

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One of the world's fastest growing economies gives

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it's latest growth - the first numbers on the last

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quarter since the cash crisis that caused growth to stall.

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All of the market are headed higher -- markets are heading higher. And

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we will have the latest Donald Trump pump. -- and we will have the latest

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on Trump pump in Europe. And are you cycling enthusiast

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but fed up with wearing lycra? We'll be speaking to the man

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who is trying to revolutionize As the Samsung scandal

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continues we want to know - do headlines like these

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affect your shopping habits? If Samsung or people

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associated with it are found guilty of bribery -

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would it stop you Just use the hashtag bbc bizlive -

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would you avoid samsung products. Apologies for saying it is the 27th

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of February, it is the 28th of February today. We start with this

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man behind Mika McGettigan making headlines for the wrong reasons.

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After weeks of uncertainty one of the world's biggest companies is

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seeing the man who is in charge indicted by South Korean prosecutors

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on charges of bribery and embezzlement.

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This is Jay Y Lee being taken in for questioning

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earlier this month - it's part of a wide-ranging

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corruption scandal which has seen the president impeached.

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Prosecutors allege Mr Lee gave donations worth about $36m

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to organisations linked to a close friend of president Park Geun-hye.

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The prosecutors say this was done to get government support

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for a controversial $8bn merger between two

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At a parliamentary hearing in December Samsung admitted giving

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about $18 million to two non-profit foundations but denies

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seeking favours in return and any wrongdoing.

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Four other Samsung executives have also been charged

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Three of them have now resigned from Samsung's corporate strategy

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office which oversees the activities of the dozens of Samsung companies.

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Ashleigh Ngheim is in our Asia Business Hub in Singapore.

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This story has been unfolding in more details at the last couple of

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hours, bring us up to scratch. It all emerged after South Korean

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prosecutors held a press conference confirming as you say, charges would

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be laid against Samsung's boss as one of those four executives. Three

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of whom you have now resigned. Essential to this case is the claim

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that Samsung's boss, Jay Y Lee, met the South Korean president in a

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private meeting just between the two of them. It's claimed that they

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agreed Samsung would pay millions of dollars to the friend of the

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president, who would then get South Korea's National pension fund to

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bank a major restructure in favour of Mr Lee and to help the family

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shore up their control of the company. Critics say that was the

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one goal that was to come out of that meeting for the company. Thanks

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very much. Geoffrey Cain is a journalist

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who spent five years in Seoul and is now writing

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a book about Samsung. He joins us from Yuma,

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Arizona in the United States. Thank you for joining us this

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morning. It's been a terrible year of headlines for Samsung. We had all

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of the issues with the Note seven phone. If you could their share

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price of the electronics company, it is almost 50% up in the past year.

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What is the story of this company? This is a unique company in that it

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has managed to split its business operations, the things that it

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makes, the phones, the televisions, from the leadership, from the

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dynastic, from the government's problems. It's interesting what is

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happening because we have these smoking phones which just happened.

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Now we are having these problems with Jay Y Lee, the heir to the

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Samsung throne, who is now in jail awaiting trial most likely. We are

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seeing a complete disconnect. Investors have confidence in

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Samsung. Consumers still like their products. Its profits and shares are

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still quite high. This is a company that goes a lot of the business

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wisdom out there. If Jay Y Lee this found guilty, what could this mean

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for Samsung? Because he was being groomed to take over. Samsung

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probably will be fine. The share price is pretty high as you

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mentioned. It looks like it is still going up. Galaxy eight is slated to

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be released sometime soon. This is a company that does have a good future

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ahead of it when you look at the products and all of the lines it

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makes. The thing Jay Y Lee is, -- the thing is Jay Y Lee made a

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sweeping change. It is looking like the company will be shaking things

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up a bit. It isn't very clear how this will trickle down to the people

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in the field, to the officers themselves, but it looks like most

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of these offices are able to run themselves regardless of what is

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happening up top. Looking ahead for the company, to their future, you

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mentioned they've been successful in separating their business. Investors

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don't seem bothered about the issues with the phones all the scandal. Do

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you think the future for Samsung is still quite possible? Overall it is

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quite positive. Samsung is a diversified conglomerate. It makes

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everything from chips to chips. A lot of success rides on the fact it

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doesn't just make phones. If you are Apple and a flagship product fails

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you might be in trouble. If you were IDM -- IBM Microsoft and Windows

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fails, there could be problems. But the phones will decline and then the

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sum -- semiconductors they make my debate in the second quarter. You

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have this floating effect where one product rises and another falls, and

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it goes through the cycle over and over. It is a cycle Samsung has gone

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through four decades and they've always come out of it despite the

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conviction of the current chairman. He was convicted twice of

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white-collar crimes. He was pardoned by two a separate presidents. The

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founder of Samsung had trouble. Yeah, I think the company itself

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will be fine. Thank you for joining us this morning.

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A senior engineer has left ride sharing company Uber just

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Amit Singhal failed to disclose that he faced accusations of sexual

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harassment in his last job at Google.

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His departure comes days after Uber promised to investigate separate

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claims of sexual harassment at the company.

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Greece is holding yet more talks to try and get to the next stage

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Inspectors for the European Union, European Central Bank

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and International Monetary Fund are in Athens trying to finalise

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reforms with the government so that it can be given the next

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chunk of money which will help it avoid bankruptcy as it continues

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to struggle with more than $300 billion of debt.

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Lots of stories on the website, including this one about space X.

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Two tourists have put their place to travel 3000 miles -- 300,000 miles

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to the moon and back. -- SpaceX. If I put my children and that rocket

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I would make amazing childcare savings.

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Where am I going to day mummy? To the moon and back.

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CHUCKLES In a few hours time we'll find out

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how the Indian economy is faring. Could the world's second most

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populated country become the engine This is really important data, isn't

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it, coming out today? It's the first time we will get a look at October,

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November and December for India which is when the cash crisis kicked

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in. That's right. Very crucial piece of data that will be released later

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today. These figures are for the period from October to December 20

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16. The government put a ban on those notes starting December. --

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starting November. You'll get a first picture of how that move

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impacted the economy on the ground. And how much time will it take for

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the recovery. India was the fastest growing economy. It surpassed China

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over the past few quarters. Most economists now expect this latest

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figure will be somewhere above 6%. Many think it could be lower. It

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will lose its tag as the fastest-growing economy if it is in

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that range. Thanks very much. One story in town today as far as the

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markets are concerned. The Dow Jones closing for 12 days in a row at a

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record high. The first time it's done that for some 30 years. And it

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is all about President Trump. What will he say later today when he

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addresses both houses of Congress? Many are expecting a 10% boost to

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defence and different stocks are doing well. Let's move on to the

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European markets if we can. London... Bae up around 2% on the

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FTSE 100. We cannot bring you the figures for some reason. We will do

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it in a moment when we look ahead to the European markets.

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Michelle Fleury has the details about what's ahead

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Wall Street will be paying close attention when Donald Trump

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addresses Congress later this Tuesday. What are they looking for

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from his speech? More details on the Budget and how he plans to move

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forward on tax reform and infrastructure spending. While the

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president is popular among investors he has historically low approval

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ratings among voters. The US conference board 's confidence index

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will view confidence in him. Economists are forecasting a dip.

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And how Americans feel can affect their spending habits. Will that

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help or hurt retail targets which reports fourth-quarter earnings this

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Tuesday. There has already been an early warning that the holiday

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season was disappointing. Thank you.

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Joining us is James Hughes the Chief Market Analyst from GKFX.

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The US markets have had almost a 30 year winning streak. Trump is

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talking tonight. What are we expecting? We can expect anything

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because it is Donald Trump. Interestingly we expected fiscal

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policy today. That's the information we wanted. However yesterday, Trump,

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as he likes to do, randomly come out and speak, he said yesterday that he

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isn't going to mention anything about potential tax cuts today. That

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is something we've all been waiting for. That is one of the big reasons

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why these markets have been rallying, particularly the Dow

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Jones, because we've seen strong rallies. There have been good,

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corporate performances but it has all been on the back of potential,

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very bullish fiscal policy, which is very stimulant to the markets, to

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the overall stock markets. We are still waiting for that news? Donald

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Trump said yesterday he wouldn't say it, but that does not mean he won't,

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because he will say what he likes. The fact we have Trump at the moment

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really dictating the markets means that the way people are trading is

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completely different to how it usually is. Looking at the European

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markets, we have the numbers now, edging up slightly. In Europe we

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have that meeting with Greece and Finance ministers, we've already

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mentioned that, but is everybody just really focused on the US later

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today? And also this fourth-quarter GDP number coming, the second

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estimate, which will give us an idea of how well the US economy is doing

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right now. Absolutely. It is difficult to look at anything other

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than Donald Trump and everything coming out of the US. We don't just

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have Trump, but we have the Fed ramping up for a rate hike. Europe

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is an important one to look at. Especially with a discrete mass. We

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know that the IMF and the ECB are having talks about the fact that

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Greece won't meet any of their targets. Yet we will keep pumping

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money in regardless. That is what happens every time we get this

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situation with Greece. It will continue to happen until Greece

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finally does go bankrupt or the euro falls apart. There is a focus on

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that. What is different to any other time was that with Donald Trump in

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the White House we are far more focused on the White House and what

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comes out of it, more than we ever would be. We don't normally care

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about politics. But with Trump in the White House it is the

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uncertainty which causes so much movement. With Trump in the White

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House it changes the way traders work, you said, how has your job

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changed since he has become president? We are looking at twitter

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all day long instead of the markets. Those things are driving us. Your

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daily could be quite regimented. You would look towards the economic

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calendar, what is coming out of the US, out of Europe, but now, we know

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Trump wakes up because he sends a tweet first thing. From there until

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the end of the trading session, or until he goes to bed, we know that

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anything can come out. At the moment markets are latching onto everything

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he says. Does that make your life more interesting or more stressful?

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Both. Thanks very much. Now a look at some of the stories

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from around the UK. The telecoms regulator, Ofcom,

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says it will take action to cut the bills of those who only

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have a landline with BT. Theo Leggett joins us from

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the Business Newsroom with more. This sounds like good news. Fill us

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in. Well, this is because a lot of us get our broadband and our phone

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lines and things like that as a bundle and those of us who do, which

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is most of us, get a good deal because there is a lot of

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competition in the market, but a substantial minority of people still

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buy just a land line or they get things separately so they'll have a

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land line contract and a broadband contract and what Ofcom are saying

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is those people get a pretty rough deal. Whereas prices have fallen for

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other people, for anybody who is just buying a land line contract,

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the price of the contract in real terms, so stripping out inflation

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has gone up between 25% and 40% over the last six years. Now that doesn't

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sound great, but what's worse according to Ofcom is these are some

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of the most vulnerable people, elderly people who may never have

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changed their phone contract. This was what Sharon White the Chief

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Executive of Ofcom had to say a short while ago. Our concern is

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there are about two million elderly and vulnerable people, most of whom

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have been with BT for decades, have never switched their telephone

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provider, and they have seen their bills rise by about a third while at

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the same time, BT's costs have fallen by a quarter.

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So that was the Chief Executive of Ofcom. Now, what they're planning to

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do there, is a consultation, but they say they want to reduce the

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monthly price of a land line by about ?5. It doesn't sound a lot,

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but ?60 a year if you're on a fixed income as many elderly people are,

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that can have a big impact. This is a consultation. It will carry on to

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May. Ofcom will take a final decision around the end of the year.

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Thank you. We have got a story about the

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triple-lock. It is about the pension triple-lock where the state pension

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increases either by inflation, or wage increases or 2.5%, whichever is

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higher. It was introduced in 2010 and it is something that's very

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expensive and there is chat about scrapping it, but a former Pensions

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Minister said scrapping it would be a bad idea.

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Our top story, South Korean prosecutors have confirmed

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they will charge this man Jay Y Lee, the third generation

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leader of Samsung, with bribery and embezzlement.

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He's been accused of giving donations in exchange

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The lycra clad cyclist is a familiar sight in many

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But not everyone looks great exerting themselves

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In fact the British have an acronym for it.

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MAMIL, meaning Middle Aged Men in Lycra.

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A sight often seen on a Sunday morning.

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But our next guest aims to make things a bit

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more comfortable - and stylish -

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He's Nick Hussey, the boss of cycling clothing company Vulpine.

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It was launched in 2012 and aims to provide clothing that

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doesn't look like you've just cycled to work in it.

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raising more than ?1 million, about $1.25 million

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in a crowd-funding drive in 2015 - around double the target.

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It's a purely online operation with most

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of its sales here in the UK - but the company plans to crack

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Where did this come from. I am assuming you were a committed

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cyclist? I was a racing cyclist in the 80 and I have seen cycling turn

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into something completely different. What hasn't kept up is cycling

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clothing. You think of tight, bright, smelly Lycra and that's what

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MA MI Ls wear. I also work and I go about my daily life and there is

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nothing I can wear for that, so I created the company to use

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performance fabrics that look stylish. You can ride in it, feel

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good in it, you don't have to carry a rucksack and go to the gym and

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have a shower and wet wipe yourself down. Everything you've got on,

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you've got bits and bobs, some of the gear that you sell. Just explain

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if you pull those out Nick so the viewer can have a look, just explain

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the science behind this fabric because you're saying you do still

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sweat when you cycle... We all do. It doesn't smell and it doesn't

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affect the clothes. You wore your clothes for weeks on end. I wore

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wool and it didn't smell. How does it work? Is it the bacteria? It is a

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naturally antibacterial fabric. It is pure wool. It is expensive stuff,

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but it lasts extremely well and it performs wonderfully well so you can

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wear it will all day and not be paranoid. It is expensive. The

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jacket is ?300 compared to a cycling jacket for ?50. Why would somebody

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pay that much more? Because they pay for quality and they pay for that

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performance, that long lasting thing that they will have for years and

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years and they can use it for their entire life. They can wear it for

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years for everything they're doing in their lives. 68% of your sales

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are in the k, but you have got overseas sales and you're looking to

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increase those. How are those overseas sales come about. Have you

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been targeting them? All we have done is concentrate on the UK and

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put our resources in there. We are a small company and now, today, we're

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launching a new range and we are starting to talk to international

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markets. 32% of that international revenue has just come organically

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and that's promising. That comes from Germany, the US, South Korea,

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Japan, Finland, strangely, and we're not trying. So now we're going to

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try and we expect that to expand quickly. How are you going to manage

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that. Your turnover is more than ?1 million. You raised quickly on a

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crowdfunding website the money you required. You're just ten people and

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yet it seems to be snowballing. You and your wife are running this.

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You're both working full-time. You have got a four-year-old and a

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one-year-old, how are you going to pull all this off? It sounds

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stressful. A lot of coffee and support. I have a great group of

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staff who are very committed and also great shareholders, we have 600

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shareholders now who are easy manage and extremely helpful. They are also

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our customers, that's an important aspect of crowdfunding and really

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our biggest problem is not having stock. We need cash for stock.

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Interestingly, something that's maybe relevant to you guys is HSBC

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fund our invoices which means that we can afford to buy more stock. All

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right. We'll keep an eye on it. You don't look like many of our

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coalition who come in in their sweaty Lycra to the BBC!

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You have been getting in touch about Samsung. We asked you is what

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unfolding at Samsung affecting your shopping habits. A viewer says, "I

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think quality and innovation of their products matter most other

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than a corporate scandal." Ray, "I'm likely to avoid a product if I don't

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agree with the company and its leader's politics." So mixed

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opinions out there by Samsung. Dominic requested he would like to

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do SpaceX, is that because you've got a ticket? No, I haven't got a

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ticket. I'm fascinated by it. It is interesting the idea that a private

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company would take people to the moon. This is Elon Musk, SpaceX, he

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is not planning planning land anybody on the moon. It is a private

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company that's doing this. You would think it would put people off? If

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you go on YouTube you can see spectacular explosions with SpaceX

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rockets that exploded. This is with Nasa's approval? The US Government's

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policy has to get away from Government control of the space

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programme and really subcontract subcontract it to private companies.

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The consumers products that Silicon Valley pioneered are funding the

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next phase of space exploration. Do you think they have travel

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insurance? I'd like to know what the product is! There was another

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article in the Times today about Mighty the caretaking outsourcing

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company. There has been a lot of talk about getting workers on to

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boards. Theresa May, the Prime Minister, before she was made Prime

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Minister talked about worker representation on boards, but she

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walked away from that. That's not going to happen. Mighty are going to

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go ahead and do it. We will keep an eye on it. Do you think they will

:25:51.:25:54.

get much input or will they be there? It depends on who will be

:25:55.:26:00.

representing the workers. I will see you tomorrow for

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