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This is Business Live from BBC News with Rachel Horne and Sally Bundock.

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Va va voom - the press are at the Geneva Motor Show taking

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in the latest models, but despite record sales

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Live from London, that's our top story on Tuesday 7th March.

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Stuck in first gear - we'll look at the problems facing

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the European car industry ahead of the continent's

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Also in the programme - snap, crackle and flop.

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Shares in the company behind Snapchat fall 12%

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following their sparkling debut on the New York Stock Exchange.

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Let's see how the European markets have opened, not a lot of movement,

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slightly up, slightly down, investors holding fire. We will find

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out why later in the programme. Will the music stop playing

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for the DJ who founded his own Later in the programme we'll speak

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to the young entrepreneur hoping to connect students on campus.

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Today we want to know... -- and Netflix are reported to be

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working on choose your own adventure TV programmes, with actors filming

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alternative endings, so let us know, what ending with July to change? --

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what ending would you like to change?

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European car-makers are gathered in Geneva for the annual motor show,

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and they are celebrating record-breaking sales figures.

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More than 15 million cars were sold in Europe last year -

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that's the best result since the financial crisis.

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But a sneaky peak under the bonnet of the continent's auto-makers

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Yesterday, General Motors sold its European businesses

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to the PSA Group - that's the company which owns

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The deal highlights the gulf in profitability either

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side of the Atlantic, and it's a problem that persists

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In 2016, Ford announced a profit margin of 9.7% in North America.

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This compares to just 4.2% in Europe.

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It's a similar story for Fiat-Chrysler, which has

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profit margins of 7.4% and 2.5% respectively.

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Cars are an important export for many of Europe's biggest economies.

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Given that national elections are due to take place in France

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and Germany later this year, European governments will be keen

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to keep their domestic car industries ticking over.

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With me is BBC business correspondent Theo Leggett.

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We have dragged him out of the newsroom! Good morning. Rachel

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outlined the width in the profit margin that there is between North

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American business and European business, why? It is very easy to

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cut back over capacity and reduce costs if you are on the verge of

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bankruptcy or have gone bankrupt, that is what happened to the North

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American car industry during the financial crisis. General Motors and

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Chrysler both filed for bankruptcy, they restructured, had talks with

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the unions, changed pension arrangements, massively cut costs.

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That did not happen in Europe, we had a subsidy of the car industry

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with scrappage schemes and so one, so in Europe there is still too much

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capacity, too many factories capable of making too many cars and not

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running efficiently, even with the level of sales at the moment.

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General Motors sold its European business to PSA, that was the

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headline yesterday, but given the disparity in profits between Europe

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and America, how will they square the circle? They will want to cut

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costs and drive up the profit margins in Europe. The gob most

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analysts predict that PSA group will have to cut some of its factories in

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a few years. PSA chief executive has almost set out a beauty parade for

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existing factories, which will be ranked according to efficiency. Once

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existing agreements expire, we can expect cutbacks. The problem with

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cutting back capacity in Europe is that it is deeply, deeply political.

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Governments have stakes in car companies, the French and has a 13%

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stake in PSA group, the German government has a stake in

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Volkswagen, at least the state of lower Saxony does. Any attempt to

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close a factory kicks up a political storm, that the problem.

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What will be the gossip from Geneva? Geneva is a wonderful car show, car

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makers come out with real exotica. I have seen a wonderful one this

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morning, I am much how to pronounce it but it is produced by a

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Singaporean company called Vander Electrics, developed in conjunction

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with the Williams Formula 1 team. It is electric car, I have no idea if

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it will work as it is meant to. Will you treat a picture for the viewers?

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Yes. And Volkswagen has come up with a mobility concept, their idea of a

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self driving car designed from the ground up. It looks like one of

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those buggies you would travel around an airport in and the name

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they have given it, self driving concept, they have called it Sedric.

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We will check out your Twitter, for people who want to know what they

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look like, his Twitter handle is @theothebald.

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Airline passengers are suffering huge disruption due to the latest

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five day strike by French air traffic controllers.

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There is also a separate call to strike on Tuesday

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More than 1,000 flights are expected to be cancelled this week

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as carriers have been asked to slash their services by 25%.

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Shares in Snap - the company that owns the popular messaging app

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Snapchat - closed more than 12% lower overnight,

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falling below the opening price from its first day of trading.

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It's the first time its stock has dropped since the company listed

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The fall follows advice from several analyst who've suggested investors

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should sell amid strong competition from Facebook and Twitter.

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A diplomatic row between China and South Korea have this that McGrath

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has spilled onto the high street. Chinese authorities have closed

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nearly two dozen retail stores of South Korea's Lotte Group

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following inspections. It will hit the bottom line of one

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of the largest companies in South Korea, the food and retail giant

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Lotte, Korea 's fifth largest firm, it gets around 20% of its sales from

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China but in the past week several of the businesses have faced a

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backlash from hackers, customers, Chinese partners. Ten of its

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department stores in China have closed and suddenly due to something

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that seems completely unrelated on the surface, the building of an

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American missile defence system, because Lotte had agreed to provide

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so that South Korean land, which includes part of a golf course, to

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allow the Americans to build a controversial missile defence system

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which can shoot down ballistic missiles. The US says it is an

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important line of defence against the North Korean missile development

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programme, Beijing has lobbied heavily against it saying that the

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powerful radars of the system are capable of monitoring Chinese

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territory and it should not be allowed to go ahead. The Chinese, it

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seems, are hitting back. There have been protests against Lotte, a

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Chinese e-commerce site has temporarily closed the Lotte

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shopping site, a Chinese snack maker says it will pull its products from

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Lotte stores. It is the biggest duty free company in the world which

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makes about 70% of its sales to Chinese customers, it said its

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website was taken offline by a cyber attack. It is up and running again.

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Chinese cosmetics retailer said it had scrubbed the name of Lotte from

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its retailer, saying they would rather die than Kerry 's goods again

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in the future. Lotte has said directly that any of these incidents

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were linked to the missile project controversy. Thank you.

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Well, the Dow Jones was down yesterday.

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Then OK and the Hang Seng, not a lot of movement. Investors are concerned

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about the lack of detail in President Trump's plans. -- the

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Nikkei and the Hang Seng, not a lot of movement. We expect the interest

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rate decision from the Fed next week, most expected to rise but

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there is not a lot moving the market at the moment. In Europe, very small

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movements. Let's go to Wall Street, with

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similar and Hussein. On Tuesday the latest trade figures the January

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will be released. It will show that the US trade deficit got better, to

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$48.5 billion, up from $44.3 billion back in December. Trade was a big

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part of Tres -- President Trump's election campaign, and these latest

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figures will be looked at very closely by his economic team. Also

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on Tuesday, the US Federal Reserve is expected to report consumer

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credit figures for the month of January. Consumer credit is debt

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taken on by individuals who intend to spend the money right away, so

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things like credit cards or car loans. Consumer credit figures are

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expected to have gone up to 17 point $10 billion, up from $14.16 billion

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in December. Lots of economic data is coming out of the States. Let's

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bear that in mind with the Fed meeting next week.

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Joining us is Kathleen Brook, research director for City Index.

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Nice to see you. Shares fell quite a bit for Snap, it is often volatile

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when a brand-new company lists on the market which does not make

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profits etc. But what is behind the fact that some indexers apparently

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are blocking Snap from being included, put that in perspective

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for us? They may block Snap because these big money managers that had to

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buy every stock in an index do not like what Snap is doing, these are

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tracker funds. Snap is saying that we want to list on these indices but

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not give you any voting rights, so people will have to buy a large

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amount of Snap and they do not want to not have a say. Snap wants to be

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found a lead Company, the founder makes the decisions, get the acid

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managers are saying if we have put a lot of money into the company, we

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want to say -- yet the asset managers are saying. What we saw

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with Google, Facebook and Alphabet, they have non-voting rights shares,

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but they give those to company members or employees of the company,

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they have caved and they do allow voting rights shares for these acid

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managers. They have found a bit of middle ground. They are included on

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the index, which is a very key thing and that is why a lot of analysts

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are saying don't buy this show, it is not good for your future

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prospects. We are told we had to leave it there, we will come back to

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you. We have other stories to discuss in the papers, lots of

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interesting stories. Still to come, will the music stop

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playing for the DJ who founded his Later in the programme we'll speak

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to the young entrepreneur hoping You're with Business

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Live from BBC News. First, let's talk about the other

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obsession in the UK, apart from the weather. House prices.

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The latest House Price Index has just been published by Halifax.

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It's shows that house prices rose 5.1% year on year in the three

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Martin Ellis is a Housing Economist at Halifax and he joins us now.

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Thank you for coming in. A rise of 5.1%, is this what you expected? We

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are seeing a steady slowdown in the rate of house price increase. That

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5.1% is actually about half where it was back in March last year. We have

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seen quite a rapid slowdown over that period, but still quite a

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robust pace of growth. We are still seeing house prices continuing to

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rise, that increases still quite comfortably ahead of the rate at

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which people's earnings increase on average, which is leading to

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increasing affordability problems, putting prices further out of reach

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for more and more people, which is causing a slowdown as it is putting

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a constraint on housing demand. It is pretty much in line with what we

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expect, we expect a trend to happen and we expect that to continue

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during 2017. Can you give a sense of how it looks across the country,

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where the hotspots are and where you are seeing this slowdown? These

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figures do not give a regional breakdown, what is happening is the

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slowdown is being driven by house prices decelerating, mainly in

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London and the south-east. We have had a long period of very rapid

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house price rises in the capital and we have seen that slowing down over

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the last year to 18 months. That factor is really because of house

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prices being so very high in relation to earnings and we are now

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seeing mortgage payments taking up quite a sizeable chunk of peoples

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income, it is the only part of the country where that proportion of

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mortgage payments in relation to income is above the long-term

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average, I think it is natural we should see that slowing in London

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and the south-east. Lots of the of the country is seeing modest rises.

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Thank you very much. Just Eat profits have jumped. The

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online take-away food delivery service is also seeing its shares

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rise today as well. Now let's get the inside track

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on the latest startups Our next guest is a former music

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producer turned entrepreneur. Rashid Ajami travelled from his

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hometown of London to the US to study at Georgetown University,

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but found it was difficult to His frustrations led to the creation

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of a web-based platform called Campus Society,

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which allows students to connect, Campus Society officially launched

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in the UK in July 2016 and already has more than 250,000 registered

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users on the platform. Ajami is now planning

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a global expansion - first moving into areas including

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Europe, India, Australia and China this year,

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followed by the US in early 2018. Rashid Ajami, founder

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and Chief Executive Officer of Campus Society, a digital

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platform for the global A warm welcome. Thank you for having

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me. It is a very new company. Yes. At the moment really just based in

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the UK. But I must admit when I read about it and I learned about you, I

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thought this is just what mark Zuckerberg was doing? It is about

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knowledge sharing and creating a global student community. If I'm

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studying anthropology in the UK and I'm interested in African culture, I

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could reach out to someone in Africa and have a real-time interaction. It

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is about bringing students together around topics they're passionate

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about. Before you launched Camp Society, you were a DJ. What have

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you taken from your time working as a DJ and working in the music

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industry which has helped you with the launch of this start-up?

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Building relationships is very important, having passion, marketing

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branding has been helpful for me from the music. But I really felt

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that this concept of building a student community was very important

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so I put that aside because I really like to focus on this. Now you are

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focussed on it. It is your full-time job. There is seven of you working

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on this full-time? We're 30 people. Sorry, 30. You're making money. How

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are you going to money advertise this idea? We want to share and chat

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and be connected to people who are like-minded and who are students,

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but how are you going to make money? First employers can connect and find

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students to do virtual job interviews on the platform. Brands

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can have a real-time interaction with students. It is more genuine

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and universities who are looking for prospective students we can start

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making that connection. Money advertisation is something we have a

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lot of great ways to do it, but it is about helping the students. Has

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anyone got hold of you, and spoken to organisations, it is just

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students, it is an audience that companies are keen to talk to, isn't

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it? Definitely. For us the main focus is growth. We want to become

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the largest student community and bring all the world's students into

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one place. Right now, it is about creating these communities and

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bringing all these students together and that's where we're focussed.

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Talking about money advertisation, you have an idea to introduce an

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online currency specific to Campus. How would that work? The more you

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contribute to this pool of knowledge, you gain this currency

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online and we want to start to bring that into the real university world.

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You can use it in your union and use it on campus. It is about giving

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students this interesting currency based on how much they contribute.

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So they would have to contribute and it would have to be valid

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contributions and policed in some way to make sure that people weren't

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just uploading stuff to go and feed themselves at the union? It is

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important to have a very strong moderation. We have a strong

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community team. We use artificial intelligence and we give the tools

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to the community. So they can really moderate the different communities

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that are happening. How will you get the organisations on board where the

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students will spend this virtual money? So we feel because, you know,

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sharing knowledge is so universal, it is integral to university, that

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the universities will get behind what we're doing. So you're hoping

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they will provide services really for nothing to students? Not a

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Bitcoin but a campus coin? We want to get the universities to be part

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of this and take care of the local experience. But they need to get

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something in return? For us it is about bringing their students

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together. It is on the local level bringing all the students to one

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place, but as well as the global level and universities want to

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connect with other universities. So we want to break down that barrier

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and awe low all universities across the world to have these discussions,

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these debates which aren't happening as much as I'd like to see

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currently. Where do you the company in a year and in five years? What's

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your vision? It is about getting, I'd like to see a few million users.

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Really being this large community for students, moving into this

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virtual currency and maybe virtual reality and being at the fore front

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of knowledge sharing. In the meantime, until you are able to

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money advertise it and make profits etcetera, you are relying on

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investors, aren't you to pay your wages and the other 29? Yes. We have

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great investors at the moment. They are really behind this concept. They

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see the potential for money advertisation, but they see the

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potential to change the way that knowledge sharing happens. All

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right. We've got to leave it there. Thank you for coming in. We will

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keep an eye on the Campus Society. The biggest names in the car

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industry are in Switzerland Our Business Editor Simon Jack sat

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down with Ford's President for Europe and asked him

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what effect Brexit will Brexit already we can see the weaker

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currency has a big impact on a company like Ford,

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but we're optimistic that the EU and the UK Government can find

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common ground so our critical industry that has so many

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jobs to save, that there won't be a tear for any kind

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of restriction on trade. We are a huge employer and a lot

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of those employees are engineering jobs for global products

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like transit and it is critical for the future of those jobs that we

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are in a zero tariff environment. That's from Ford, the President of

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Europe who was talking to Simon Jack.

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We will be talking to the boss of PSA Group which announced yesterday

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with General Motors it is buying General Motors European business.

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That interview will be later on the BBC.

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Kathleen Brooks joins us again to discuss.

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Netflix have this idea of choose your own adventure where you can

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decide where the plot goes next. Do you remember reading those choose

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your own adventure books? Yes. Do you drink from the position bottle

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go to page four. I never did that. I think it is a really interesting

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dynamic, with Netflix you have had a really busy week. It's a Friday

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night. I want them to make the decisions for them. I'm not sure how

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many decisions I want to make. I would have a big row with my husband

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because he would want one ending and I'd want the other ending. It would

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just cause domestic arguments. If they make several endings you may

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never get to the end of a show. It is hard enough to get to the end of

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some of these shows. A box-set of endings. We have had good tweets.

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Rosie said The Wizard Of Oz Is is one of the most disappointing

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endings. Another viewer says, "I'm Spartacus." I can't remember how the

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Wizard Of Oz Ended. Let's talk about the new factory, Nordic battery

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plant. $4 billion worth. It sounds similar to what Tesla is up to? It

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is set-up by former Tesla executives. They are looking at

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opening the first European battery making plant in Scandinavia. That's

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where they mine a lot of the minerals that need to go into the

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batteries. I was shocked this is the first time that somewhere in Europe

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has started buying or making these batteries and then added to that,

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the fact that you know it is for Tesla or it will be for Teslament it

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is not any of the European companies who are using the batteries and

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really with pollution concerns etcetera, etcetera, should more

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European car companies be thinking about electric? I think they should

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do. We have been talking about hedge funds stockpiling cobalt which is

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the mineral or material used in the batteries and it is saying here

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there is a Finnish mine producing cobalt, one of the reasons why

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they're looking at these countries, but whether those stockpiles of

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cobalt could affect the industry? It pushes the prices up and it makes

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them less attractive. Can we linger for a moment on this story that's in

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the UK Just Eat profits? We have this rare luxury, we have time!

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Let's talk about the online take away food delivery app. Pre-tax

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profits 164% up for last year to ?91 million. It is doing extremely well.

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It is going to expand globally. It is saying the market in the UK is

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quite busy. There is many markets outside of Europe where there is not

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much competition and they're going for it. It is one to watch, isn't

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it? Fantastic performance. The CEO is leaving because of urgent family

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matters, but he is leaving on a high. The outlook looks fantastic.

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They have had 150% profit this year and looking for an extra 50% profit

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next year. They just deliver whatever you want, don't they? You

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have an app. You order your food from thousands of outlets. You

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choose which outlet? They get it delivered fou and you pay through

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their open tab I believe is the app. There is a couple of challengers

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like Hungry House. They want to acquire Hungry House. The CEO is on

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the move. It will be interesting to see who takes over in terms of what

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the outlook is. It is a revolution. Do they deliver breakfast? That's

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what I want to know!

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