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This is Business Live from BBC News with Rachel Horne

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Volkswagen looks to steer away from it's US diesel troubles

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which have already cost it more than $20 billion.

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Live from London, that's our top story on Friday, 10th March.

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It's a big day for the German car-maker with a court hearing

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in Detroit and a new partnership to help it rev up in

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Also in the programme, kicked out of office.

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South Korea's president is ousted over corruption involving

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the country's biggest companies meaning elections are on their way.

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Let's see how the markets have opened in Europe. They are all in

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the green. We'll be finding out why. And what can you do

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to stop the CIA listening As the big tech firms respond

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to the latest WikiLeaks revelations we'll be getting the inside track

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on all the biggest tech stories of the week with our technology

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correspondent Rory Cellan-Jones. There's a report in The Times

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in London that fewer people are taking time off sick from work

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because they frightened We want to know whether you have

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hauled yourself in as sick as a dog We start in Detroit in the USA

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where in a few hours time Volkswagen is due to plead guilty to charges

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of fraud and obstruction of justice The formal plea will draw a line

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under the US side of the scandal following a plea bargain

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reached in January. VW has admitted 11 million vehicles

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worldwide had software installed to beat regulators

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checks on emissions. In some cases they were

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up to 40 times higher So far that's led to around

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$20 billion in settlements and fines in the US alone

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where just 500,000 of But the vast majority -

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eight million - were This week the European Commission

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agreed to oversee action from 22 different consumer protection

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authorities in the region. So there could be another huge

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compensation bill on the way. Meanwhile VW is working

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on reinventing itself for the future by investing in electric

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and self-driving cars. Today, it's also scheduled

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to unveil a partnership with Indian carmaker Tata

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which will see the companies work together on vehicle development

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in one of the fastest growing car I'm joined in the studio by our

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Business Correspondent Theo Leggett. How long has it been? September

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2015. Are we coming to the end of the chapter labelled, "United

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States"? We don't know how seriously the Donald Trump administration will

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take this because most of the fines were imposed under the Obama

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administration, but the chances are that process is coming to an end. In

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terms of criminal proceedings we may not be there yet. Seven people have

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been charged by the US authorities. One has been arrested. The rest are

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in Germany. There could be some way to go. We don't know how far up in

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the company this went. Almost the end of that chapter, the next

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chapter is labelled "EU" This is close to home, isn't it? Does the EU

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have the political will to really squeeze VW the way the Americans

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did? Well, here is the interesting point. In the EU you have 28

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different governments all of whom take different stances, but nowhere

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in Europe has there been a major prosecution against Volkswagen or

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any big compensation pay-out and that's because Volkswagen argue it

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didn't do anything illegal. It is taking software off the cars, it

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argues because the limits were lower, the defeat devices weren't

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needed. It won't reduce the value of the cars and therefore, people

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aren't entitled to compensation, that's the argument. The European

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Commission gives that very short shrift. The European Commission

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wants governments to take on Volkswagen and get some form of come

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pepisation for consumers and this week it hosted a meeting of 22

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consumer protection authorities, the Department for Transport, in the UK,

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went along as well. And they're looking at joint legal action using

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consumer protection law to try and squeeze some money out of

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Volkswagen. It remains to be seen what that does, but Volkswagen has

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lots and lots of factories across Europe.

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Briefly, we are expecting news out of India today about a tie up

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between Tata and Volkswagen. How significant could that be? It could

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be significant for Volkswagen because it wants to get a foot hold

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in the Indian market. If it can't get in as Volkswagen, having a tie

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up with Tata is a good way. Thank you.

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In South Africa, roads to Johannesburg's main airport have

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been blocked by hundreds of metered taxi drivers protesting

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Such protests have become commonplace in cities as far apart

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as London and New Delhi, as Uber continues to challenge

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traditional business models in the taxi market.

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The Meter Taxi Association in South Africa claims

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Uber is not registered with the authorities to operate.

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Home rental company AirBnB has raised $1 billion of investment

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funding in a deal that values the firm at $31 billion.

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The San Francisco-based firm disclosed the investment in a filing

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to the US Securities and Exchange Commission.

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AirBnB has not commented on how it would use the funding,

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but could use the cash as it seeks to diversfy in areas including

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city tours and exclusive experiences with local experts.

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US Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, has said

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he'll have no role in approving the controversial

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Keystone XL pipeline between Canada and the US.

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The 1100 mile pipeline would bring oil from Canada's tar sands

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It was put on hold during the Obama administration after a report

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overseen by the State Department raised environmental concerns.

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Activists have complained Mr Tillerson has a conflict

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of interest as former boss of oil giant Exxon-Mobil.

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South Korea faces elections with 60 days because President Park's

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impeachment has been upheld by the Constitutional Court.

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She's been removed from office because of a corruption scandal

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which involves the country's biggest companies including Samsung.

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It's all led to angry demonstrations in the capital Seoul.

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Our correspondent Stephen Evans is in the South Korean capital, Seoul.

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So, this is a nation divided, isn't it, over this? It is absolutely a

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nation divided. With the verdict there was trouble outside the court

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with pro Park, President Park demonstrators fighting with police

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in which two people died. So, it is a nation divided. It also raises big

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questions for the country's biggest businesses, some of the household

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names around this planet Samsung you mentioned Hyundai is involved. The

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president did a deal to companies to give money to her best friend in

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return for favours. That obviously prompts the question - if the

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president was involved in that deal, which involved the companies giving

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money, the implication is they must also be involved. The head of

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Samsung is already in court, being tried. The others must now be

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wondering do we follow? Thank you very much indeed.

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The Dow, the Hang Seng and the Nikkei rallied. Why did the dollar

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strengthen? Analysts are certain that the US Federal Reserve will

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increase interest rates next week. That makes the dollar more

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attractive because investors get a better return. Let's look to see how

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Europe is getting on today. Also in the green, a good end to the week

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for the markets. Not a lot happening in Europe today, but just waiting to

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see, we think most of the markets have priced in that Federal Reserve

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interest rate increase expected next week. And talking about that, let's

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go to Michelle. She has the details about what's ahead on Wall Street

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kicking off with jobs figures. It is jobs Friday. It is the most

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important piece of economic news this week, not only will it be

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closely watched for signs that the strength of the US economy, but

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perhaps a bigger deal for investors. This is the last major economic

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report before the Federal Reserve's rate setting policy meeting next

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derail the Fed's plans to hike rates derail the Fed's plans to hike rates

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in March. That seems unlikely. Economists are forecasting jobs

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growth of 190,000, that's after an unseasonably warm winter which may

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have boosted the number of jobs that were created as well as a drop in

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the number of people claiming weekly unemployment benefits. Still, the

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report will influence market expectation about the pace of future

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hikes. Joining us is Sue Noffke, UK

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Equities Fund Manager at Schroders. Sue, thank you very much for coming

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in this morning. Michelle was talking about there about jobs and

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interest rates, just wrap it all up for us. So, it is not only just how

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many jobs, it is the pace of wage growth in the US that's really going

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to determine not just next week's interest rate hike, which is pretty

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much a fore gone conclusion, but really the pace for the rest of the

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year. The Fed has indicated possibly three interest rate rises through

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2017. The markets are probably a little bit more relaxed about the

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pace of changes. We will have to see how strong the jobs report is this

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afternoon. Really as to whether we're looking at another hike in

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June and how markets react to that? We have had stock markets heading

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for record highs, western equity markets and with them we've got a

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rash of new awards for Chief Executives, companies, reported very

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good profits. This is something we go through every so often, they get

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a massive rise in awards for the Chief Executives, everyone clammers

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about it and says how disgraceful and the hole thing goes away and it

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comes back a few months later and nothing is done about it or is

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anything changing, do you think? There are things a foot to change

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and I think you're right, there is a cyclical element to this and the

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cyclical element is, this time of year we get end of year reports and

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then AGMs... Martin Sorrell? That's right. There is the annual

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shareholders report which is non binding so they can say whether they

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agree or disagree, but the executives get it anyway. What

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happens is on a three year cycle is the pay policy and that's when the

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renumeration committee tries to set the awards for the future, the

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long-term incentive plans around performance targets, and there are

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conversations with other shareholders, stakeholders, more

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Jenny about what is fair. Can they object? They can, but you need a

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high hurdle. So a 50% limit is what will vote down a pay policy. That's

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high. The key to this, really, are the sharehold, the fund managers,

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are they getting more feisty and indignant or not? I think they are

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and the politician are, but again, it is very hard to get 50% to oppose

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for that to be binding. What happens with the pay policy is that if there

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is a significant minority vote against and a significant minority

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could be deemed to be 20 to 30% then the board is required to state what

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it's going to do about it and some policy don't even get that far. We

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saw some being pulled, the likes of Imperial Brand when it was clear it

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was going to incur a lot of opposition. Now, just to be

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controversial, with these pay deals, they are due to be based on

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performance, on results and you look at a company like WPP, Sir Martin

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Sorrell built that company up, it was a shopping basket making company

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and it is the biggest advertising firm in the world. He may say... He

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deserves it. I haven't done a quick three year turn around. I have built

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this company, that's mine. You can say that. And to a large extent

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there is a lot of validity in those arguments. I think one could also

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say that sterling devaluation has boosted WPP's profits and share

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price. That was nothing to do with Sir Martin Sorrell. It is around

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some of these unintended consequences of what the pay policy

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sets out to do and what ends out being paid. We could say it devalued

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his pay packet. In dollars he made less. Take it in sterling.

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Our technology correspondent Rory Cellan Jones will

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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Telecoms regulator Ofcom has said BT has met its demands to separate

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itself from its Openreach division, which runs the UK's

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In November BT was ordered to legally split

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BT's Chief Executive welcomes the decision.

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I think this is a very significant decision. We have agreed to legally

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incorporate Openreach within the BT Group, but it will have an

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independent chairman, an independent board, and it will be within its

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articles of association, it will be enshrined to serve all customers

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equally. Let's get more details

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from the regulator, Ofcom - with its Chief Executive,

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Sharon White. Thank you very much for joining us.

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We want to know will consumers see any difference? Yes, they will. This

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is a big reform that we have announced today.

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Openreach is a legally distinct company within BT. Two big changes

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for consumers. Firstly, by law, Openreach will have to work to the

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interest of all consumers of better brought down and. Secondly, the

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decisions it takes is a company in terms of investment, again have got

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to work for the interests of the whole country, and we would expect

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to see from this, both better service, but also better broadband.

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Sharon, it is Jamie Robertson here. If you happen to spot, and I presume

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you are going to be monitoring things, if you happen to spot any

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kind of linkage between the two, any kind of cooperation between the two,

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what can you do about it? As you say we will be monitoring this break

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closely and very robust Lee. We will be looking for the just those

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examples as to whether Openreach is operating independently or not. We

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have them got powers to come in, we have got powers to enforce and

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powers to fine. What today's decision means is reform of

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Openreach can happen quickly and the improvements that all of us want to

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see in terms of our broadband, Openreach performing better, can

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start to happen for all of us up and down the country. Thank you. We can

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have a look at what is happening. Wetherspoon's boss has complained

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about the tax and he is not getting enough benefits from the Budget.

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You are watching Business Live. Volkswagen is hoping to draw a line

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under the American emissions scandal by formally pleading guilty. It is

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also looking at linking up with Tata N India. Let's have a look at the

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markets. The Asian markets are up. We have a stronger dollar. We think

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that the jobs report will be good and strong and we think the dollar

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will rise. In fact, it is rising already.

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And now let's get the inside track: Fake news deliberately

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publish hoaxes, propaganda, and disinformation

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purporting to be real news - often using social media

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Well, this week our technology editor had a problem

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with the Featured Snippets on Google - let's find out more

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Hello, Rory. What was the problem? Google has not been in the spotlight

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for fake news, most of the flak has come from Facebook. But I saw

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something about this feature called snippets which gives you one to

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answer at the top of any search. Quite often it is something

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practical like a recipe. You put in Carrick at recipe. As well as the

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blue links you get a box saying here is a recipe. -- you put in a carrot

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cake recipe. But it can get controversial when you ask it

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questions, especially when you ask questions of its home device which

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purports to give you the best answer on a range of subjects. I asked the

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question is Obama planning a coup? Lets see what happened.

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OK, Google, is Obama planning a coup? According to secrets,

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according to details, not only can Obama be in bed with the commonest

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Chinese bit of an may be planning a commonest... Coup d'etat. You will

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notice it is not very good at pronouncing coup d'etat. On the

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website on a page you have context and other links to say it is

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nonsense that you get one to answer in this product. This is the future

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of search, you will be talking to machines and it will give you

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answers. Google admits it has a problem with its search algorithm,

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it can go wrong. That was from a conspiracy website and that is the

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future potential of fake news. People putting fake material online

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which ends up being given dominance by the likes of Google. And I read

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some being hearing that young people would rate the BBC is top for

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finding out the truth in the world and Google second. Absolutely, we

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put an awful lot of trusting Google. Even its own executives admitted the

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search is not perfect, it can go wrong. What is the latest on the

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CIA? WikiLeaks came out with this extraordinary bunch of documents

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which appeared to be genuine showing the full extent of the CIA's hacking

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tools. Basically the modus operandi. tools. Basically the modus operandi.

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It is re-challenging for the tech companies because it reveals

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apparently vulnerabilities in Apple's iPhone and android phones

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and most interestingly in Samsung connected TVs. I think the CIA would

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actually have to come in your house, stick a USB stick into the side of

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your TV before they would be able to use it as a spying device. But the

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interesting things morning is Julian Assange of WikiLeaks is offering to

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cooperate with the tech companies and tell them. They are giving him a

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bit of a cool response. A great one from Microsoft said our preferred

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method for anyone with knowledge of security issues including the CIA or

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WikiLeaks, is to submit details to us at secure at Microsoft .com. OK,

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e-mail us! We're not sure we want to talk to you. The security companies

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came in for a bit of flak but I have heard that going quite. I read in

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these 8000 pages of leaked documents were basically refused by CIA

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hackers of various prominent antivirus software, or one of them

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was quite rude, they described it as a pain in the posterior. The company

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said we think it is an honour to be called a pain by the CIA. It has

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revealed a lot of the dangers out there. Question marks over whether

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intelligence agencies to be exploiting those vulnerabilities or

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telling the industry about them to sort them out. Rory, thank you for

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coming in this morning. And if you want more on the latest

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stories from the technology world, you can catch Rory's Tech Tent

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programme on the BBC World Service at 1500 GMT every Friday or download

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the podcast from the BBC website. Yes, listening! You heard it here

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We are also talking free trade - a concept increasingly under

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siege in this new era of populist politics.

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Earlier I asked Canada's Trade Minister, Francois-Philippe

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Champagne, if Napster came to an end. Let us remind ourselves what is

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the relationship between Canada and the United States not you have 35

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states in the United States which have Canada as their primary export

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market. You have 9 million US jobs which depend directly on trade with

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Canada. Canada is the largest customer to the US and the largest

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energy supplier. So when you start looking at this relationship, both

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in prosperity and security, that relationship... It doesn't mean

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Nafta, you could do a direct deal with the United States. Donald Trump

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does not have much of an issue with Canada, he has an issue with Mexico.

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You could do a bilateral trade deal, couldn't you? Let us have a look at

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what Nafta means. We do not sell to each other, we make things together.

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That is the nature of our relationship which is unique. That

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was Francois-Philippe Champagne, the Canada Trade Minister.

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Let's see what other stories are being talked

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What other business stories has the media been

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Sue Noffke, UK Equities Fund Manager at Schroders is joining

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We have a story about stick days. -- we have a story about six days. They

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are at their lowest rate. Fearful workers drag themselves in because

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they are fearful about losing their job. They might be. I thought I had

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recovered and then I didn't and I found my diary got full and I was

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committed. I am as bad as the next person. We have had some tweets in.

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One said I had to work in fear of losing my job, I was infected with

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my kids' tummy bugs. That was Adrian. Another tweets said a day

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off home because of being sick and the next day I would be sacked. Not

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a deal he would risk. There are people who are worried if they do

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come in close they are sick, it will be bad for their reputation, but it

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is bad for everybody else in the office if you're going to pass it

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on. A lot to do with freelancers in

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particular, they feel particularly vulnerable? I think that is right.

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There have been changes to HR practices. You have to speak to a

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real person. You cannot just send an e-mail or a voice mail. You have to

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speak to someone to convince them you are actually ill. But on the

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flip side, a lot of us if we are not feeling 100% we can do a lot of work

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at home. That is not the same for people in factories or retail shops.

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New York and London are battling for an IPO up this could be a monster.

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It will not be done as a complete free float. It will only be 5%, 5%

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of $2 trillion is still an enormous amount of money. I would hope London

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gets it, with Brexit coming up, but we will have to see. Sue Noffke,

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thank you. There will be more business news

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throughout the day on the BBC Live webpage and on World Business

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