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Tonight at ten, the Scottish Government names a date for a

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referendum on independence. As tensions rise between London and

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Edinburgh, the autumn of 2014 emerges as the the SNP's choice.

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They should leave this to be a referendum that is made in Scotland.

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Leave it to the judgement of the Scottish Parliament and the wisdom

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of the Scottish people. A warning that no valid referendum

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can take place without Westminster's approval.

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The Scottish Parliament does not have the power to carry out a

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referendum of any kind to do within independence -- with independence.

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We will have the latest from Westminster and Holyrood.

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Also tonne: Official approval for a new high-

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speed railway from London to Birmingham initially, but it is

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highly controversial. The infrastructure for rail or

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travel at the moment is creaking. We have to move forward. It is

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about the monumental outlay of money when the country is in dire

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strait. In Syria, a defiant message from

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the president. And where TV meets PC. It is the

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In sport on the BBC News Channel, Mark Hughes is confirmed as the new

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Good evening. The Scottish Government has named

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the autumn of 2014 as its preferred date for a referendum on

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independence. The announcement sets the First Minister, Alex Salmond,

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on a collision course with David Cameron who wants the vote held

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sooner rather than later. Mr Salmond said it was the most

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important decision facing the Scottish people for 300 years and

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it couldn't be rushed. From Is Scotland set to leave the United

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Kingdom? Tonight, a possible departure date as Scotland's First

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Minister dismissed claims by UK ministers that his planned

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referendum was illegal. The date for the referendum has to be the

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autumn of 2014. That's because this is the biggest decision that

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Scotland has made for 300 years. If you are going to do things properly

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and allow the proper processes to take place and have that debate in

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the way this must be had then that is the date that we're going to

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move towards. So I can understand that perhaps they haven't

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throughout about these things, but they must resist the testimony

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testimony the temptation to interfere.

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In the Commons, the Scottish Secretary said Mr Salmond was

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exceeding devolved power. He offered to resolve that, but with

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strings attached. I think we should have this

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referendum sooner rather than later. The legal uncertainty, the economic

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uncertainty is bad for Scotland. It is bad for individuals whose jobs

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are at the stake. Let's get rid of that uncertainty and what we're

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offering here is to work with the Scottish Parliament and the

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Scottish Government on behalf of the Scottish people so that we can

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indeed get on with that big decision which none of us will make

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anything bigger in our lives about whether Scotland should remain part

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of the United Kingdom. If the referendum is in 2014, the

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UK Government wants a straight question.

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And UK ministers say the Electoral Commission should run the ballot,

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not a new Scottish body, as proposed by Alex Salmond.

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So tonight in two parliaments, Holyrood and Westminster, a

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political battle is underway over how the referendum should be

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conducted. A prelude to the much bigger conflict still to come over

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the future of the 300-year-old Parliamentary Union between

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Scotland and England. One legal expert said what matters is the

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popular will. A democratic State has never

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ignored the result of a referendum. So even an advisory referendum is

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something which would carry its own political momentum and force the

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hand of London into negotiations. I don't see any alternatives to that.

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The Scottish Cabinet has signalled the start of the referendum process,

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but will that be tested in the court of public opinion or the law

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In a moment, we'll hear more from Brian Taylor in Edinburgh, but

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first Nick Robinson is at Westminster. Nick, just to ask

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where this leaves David Cameron tonight and how Westminster views

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the stakes? Well, a clear message was sent from this Westminster

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Parliament to the Parliament in Edinburgh today, Huw. And it was

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this, talk to us about how to organise, not just a legal

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referendum, but a referendum that is clear that, is fair, that is

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decisive or we will see you in court. In other words, it could

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herald what we heard today a unique, a first and historic clash in front

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of the Supreme Court, just a few hundred yards away from this

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Parliament over the respective powers of those two parliaments.

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Westminster's case is very simple - when powers were devolved to the

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Scottish Parliament, what was not devolved was the power to determine

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their own constitutional future. That was technically legally what

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is called a reserved power. The case being made in Edinburgh, I

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believe, is simple - we can ask the Scottish people whatever we like,

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whenever we like. The Prime Minister knew, of course, by doing

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what he has done, he would play in one sense into Alex Salmond's hands

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who would complain about an English Tory-led Government trying to

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dictate to the people of Scotland, but his view was simple that he was

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not going to allow the cannyest political operator in these isles,

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Alex Salmond, to dictate not just the date of a referendum, but the

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choice of question, including for example not just independence, but

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the idea of devolution max and even who got to vote, 16 and 17-year-

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olds not just 18 and above. He was not going to allow Alex Salmond to

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dictate all that and determine that what is currenty the United Kingdom

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would be divided on his terms. Let's turn to you Brian, we will

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say straightaway, there is little sign of potential compromise today

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if you look at the statements, but how do you think Mr Salmond and his

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colleagues will handle this from now on? You are right about the

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absence of compromise. The Scottish Secretary, Michael Moore smiled

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wrilily when he said he was welcoming Alex Salmond's statement.

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He knows, of course, that it is rather an act of defiance and an

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act of disdain. Alex Salmond is saying he proceeds with his own

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plans regardless of the views and the advice expressed from

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Westminster. Might he he move, I think he might to some extent. It

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is possible the Electoral Commission's status would be

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recognised as the body to supervise and scrutinise and run the

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referendum, but as of tonight, Alex Salmond is making no concessions,

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giving no ground. He says he has the mandate and the authority

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regardless of what Westminster says. Brian, thank you very much.

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Brian Taylor there for us and Nick Ministers have approved what is

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described as the biggest extension to the rail network since the

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Victoria era. A high-speed rail network initially linking London

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and Birmingham is meant to be ready by 2026 with extensions to

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Manchester and Leeds after that. The bill for the entire project is

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put at �33 billion, but ministers say the economic benefit is worth

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it. Extra tunnelling was announced in response to environmental

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concerns as Richard Westcott High Speed Two will be the longest

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major new railway line for over a century. A a fleet of 220mph trains

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cutting half an hour of a trip between Birmingham and London. It

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is designed to take the pressure off Britain's busiest lines. It is

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not just going to create the passenger capacity that we need,

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the connectivity between our major cities that we need and the speed

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that we need, it will support jobs, growth and pros and prosperity for

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Britain. Super fast trains need straight track and that led to a

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controversial route. Beginning at a rebuilt Euston Station in London,

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where commuters and residents face years of disruption. It travels

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north across some of England's prettyest countryside in the

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Chiltern Hills. Extra tunnels have been added to calm fears. But for

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protesters in one pub, it is not enough.

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It is about the monumental outlay of money when the country is in

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dire straits. The world is in dire straits, but we are in dire States.

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We are talking about us. This will cost �1500, �1700 for every family

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in England. Trains continue north passed

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Warwick and Coventry to Birmingham where there is more support.

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Good afternoon, how is it going? This businessman thinks it will

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make the UK more competitive. If you look at the modern railways

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today around the world, I travelled in China, I travelled in Europe and

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what I see there is the ability to get it from A to B in short time

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and that's really what is key to us here.

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Next up, the Government wants to extend the line to Manchester and

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Leeds. Total cost nearly � �33 billion. Stage one alone could

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create 40,000 jobs and the Government says for every �1 it

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spends, the economy could make up to �2.50 back. But some experts

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question the way the Government has come up with its figures.

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They have made an assumption that the travel time is wasted time and

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that in fact people do nothing when they are travelling. Now they have

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laptops and iPads and do productive work.

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The UK does already have a high- speed rail line linking up Kent and

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London and we're doing about 140mph on that train now. But the new

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trains will be travelling at least 85mph faster than this. There is a

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long way to go yet. MPs need to vote it through Parliament and even

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without delays, it will be 14 years before the first passengers are

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The Welsh Government says it will pay to replace PIP breast implants

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for women who were treated privately. Last week they said only

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NHS patients would have the implants replaced. It is thought

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the measure could affect around 2,000 patients, but the Government

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in Cardiff has set conditions on the offer. Women must prove they

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sought redress from their private care provider and be resident and

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In Syria, President Assad has blamed a foreign conspiracy for the

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unrest and violence of the past year. In a defiant two-hour speech

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he promised to use an "iron fist" to crush what he described as

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terrorism. The main opposition, the Syrian National Council, says the

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anti-government protests will continue and that more civilians

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were killed today. John Simpson has It was a moment that people all

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over Syria had been waiting for anxiously. This was only the fourth

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time President Assad had spoken to the people like this since the

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troubles began last March. Would he show a hint of compromise? Might

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there be some way forward out of the conflict?

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APPLAUSE He seemed relaxed enough as he came

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on to the stage at Damascus University, almost like a candidate

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up for election. His audience of hand picked loyalists represented a

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definite body of opinion in Syria, people scared that the

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demonstrations will end in the violent break-up of the country.

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Most of the cities whose names are on the wall behind him have seen

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demonstrations, but there was to be TRANSLATION: Our priority now is to

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regain the security that our country has enjoyed for decades.

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This can only be achieved by hitting the terrorists with an iron

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fist. There will be no leniency for those using weapons to kill our

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civilians. And yet, the demonstrations continued today,

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there we have not been able to verify these pictures. According to

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the opposition, 35 people were killed today alone. Arab League

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observers currently inside Syria watched President Assad's speeches

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as carefully as anyone. He was not complimentary about their mission.

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TRANSLATION: De Arab League is just a reflection of the Arab situation.

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If the Arab League had failed for six decades towards Arab interests,

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we should not be surprised that it has failed to Dave. But who is

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influencing President Assad to keep on cracking down on the opposition?

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Hardliners in his own circle, certainly. But Syria's last major

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friend in the region is Iran. And false like this worked in Iran

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itself back in 2009. There were huge protests against a highly

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questionable result in the presidential election. Eventually,

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the demonstrators in Tehran and elsewhere were hammered into

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submission. Just keep on toughing it out, Iran will be telling

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President Assad, and you will succeed as well. But the crackdown

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has not been enough so far to cow the demonstrators. Though, equally,

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they have not yet made a decisive breakthrough. Today's speech

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changes nothing. It is still Coming up on tonight's programme:

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On the road to the White House, potentially. We report on today's

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Now, in his first major speech of the new year, the Labour leader Ed

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Miliband says his party has to change if it is to win the next

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election. The approach that brought Labour victories in the past, he

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said, would not work in a very different economic climate. The

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speech was seen as an answer to critics of his leadership.

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What is Labour for if it cannot spend money? That is the question

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Ed Miliband set out to answer today. In government, he was able to

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promise more cash for hospitals and schools. Well, no more. He

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presented himself as a man who understands that his party must

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change, finding new ways to help the least well-off in a time of

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austerity. Whoever is the next Prime Minister will have a deficit

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to reduce and less money to spend. That has profound implications, not

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just for our country, but for my party as well. So, if he could not

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protect the winter fuel allowance, he would force energy firms to cut

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prices for pensioners over 75. He would make train companies keep

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fares down on all of their routes. He would keep tuition fees low, he

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says, by raising business taxes on banks. As for David Cameron's

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claims that the Government was tackling irresponsible bosses...

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say to the Prime Minister, who are you trying to kid? Nobody is going

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to believe you came into politics to end crony capitalism. But now

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that he has accepted that this is the battleground of politics, I say,

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bring it on. But can that message will win over voters in seats like

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Hendon in north London? Labour lost it at the last election and it

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needs to win it back if it is to return to power. Ed Miliband knows

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that come the General Election he will not be able to promise more

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money to places like this. Instead, he will have to convince people

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that he can fix the economy, while also helping those struggling to

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make ends meet. The question is, is anybody listening? At this

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playgroup, mothers said that Ed Miliband was right to focus on what

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he calls the squeezed middle. But can he make things better? I very

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much hope so. I don't know that he is the leader that we are looking

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for, though. I think you need a leader with a real charisma. Tony

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Blair had a number of issues, but he certainly had the charisma to

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lead. The message is going the right way, but it is whether he can

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deliver on what he says he can. recent days, Ed Miliband has faced

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criticism from some of his party. His aides insisted the speech was

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no relaunch of his leadership. But the polls are still pretty bleak.

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Amongst Labour voters, only 54% are satisfied. 83% of Conservative

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voters say they are happy with David Cameron. Basically, nobody

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has become Prime Minister as leader of the opposition with these

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ratings. Today's speech was billed as Ed Miliband's answer to critics

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who say that he must do more to make Labour credible on the economy.

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Some wanted to go still further. Even he admits he is yet to win the

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argument. The race to win the Republican

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nomination for US President has reached New Hampshire, the first

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primary in the Republican nomination process. The eventual

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winner will be taking on President Obama in November. Voting is under

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way and polls are showing a slight fall in the lead enjoyed by Mitt

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Romney. The New Hampshire contest is being watched very closely for

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the way that deep economic concerns will affect the result.

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Bonfire Night, New Hampshire style. No guy is thrown on the burning

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pile of Christmas trees, but to listen to the Republicans roasting

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President Obama, it is something of a surprise he is not burnt in

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effigy. Candidates are fired up, even though this contest could go

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on for months. Republicans in all 50 states should get to vote. But

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these are early ones can make or break a campaign. They are all

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arguing Obama's handling of the economy hasn't just been wrong, it

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is un-American, leading the country down a ruinous road. We have a

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President who is probably the most radical President in American

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history. I think he takes his inspiration from the social welfare

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states of Europe. He wants to make as an entitlement Society, where

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government takes from some to give to others. You want to know what is

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crushing business? This administration is crushing business.

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But how do those extremely strong charges against the President play

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with American voters? Particularly in a place like New Hampshire,

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comfortable and prosperous, with lower unemployment and less poverty

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than many other states. New Hampshire is filled with towns with

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English names like Newmarket, Portsmouth and Manchester. Its

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wealth was built on textile and paper mills. Manufacturing has

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declined, but the new money spinner is tourism. This is Waterville

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Valley, in the White Mountains. Republicans who feel America is on

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a slippery slope want to reverse the slide, with tax cuts, less

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government and red tape. The resort owner, from a well-known republican

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family, says that Obama's policies are hurting his business. If I

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don't know what the regulations are going to be, if I think government

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is going to be too overbearing, I have to hold my cash, I cannot

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expand will be creative, I cannot give my employees the benefits they

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might need because I don't know But even in these hard times, to

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some, harmony is more appealing than discord. The middle-aged crowd

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taking in this band seemed middle of the road as well. Republicans

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here do not seem to share the candidates' anger at Obama's

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economics. They are saying things just to get elected. I think they

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are saying things that are crazy, they don't mean it, but they have

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to say it does to try to get the nomination. Well, they are

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Republicans. I personally say... You La Repubblica? I am, but I

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consider myself a liberal Republican. -- you are republican?

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A lot of them running are too conservative. Polling is well under

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way in a contest where harsh language is all about exciting the

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party faithful, not winning the Lord Leveson, running the inquiry

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into press standards, has given the first indication of his own

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thinking after several weeks of taking evidence. He says it will

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not be possible to change the way that newspapers are regulated by

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just tinkering around the edges. Today's witnesses included editors

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from the broadsheet press. They are titles at the top of what

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used to be the broadsheet end of the newspaper market, anxious about

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recent failings but as concerned as tabloid colleagues at what they see

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as the threat to the freedom of the press. This was the assertion from

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Lionel Barber, editor of the Financial Times. I strongly believe

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that there is a public interest in freedom of expression itself.

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after the phone hacking scandal, he said the industry had to change.

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All of us, and I speak for myself, believe that, as a result, we need

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to change the way we do business. Then from Lord Leveson, some

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significant clues about how his mind is thinking. First, he doubts

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the durability of wake-up calls. You will understand my concern that

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there have been wake-up calls in the past and everybody has woken up.

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And then it has all drifted off again. Lord Leveson suggested that

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the press's problems might require a substantial remedy. It will not

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be good enough, in my present view, and I am obviously listening and

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will continue to listen with great care to everything everybody is

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saying, but it will not do just to think that one can tinker around

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the edges. As well as recognising its strengths, Lord Justice Leveson

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asked to recommend remedies for the industry's problems. Ditching by

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his Commons today, he seems to favour an organisation which is

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independent, independent from the media and, importantly, from

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government, to regulate the Now, the way we watch and use

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television is set to be transformed in the years ahead thanks to

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massive investment in new technology by big manufacturers.

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The traditional function of the set in the corner of the living room is

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changing. Television is becoming fully connected to the internet,

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harnessing the full potential of the World Wide Web. This report

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San Francisco, the gateway to Silicon Valley, where so much of

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the technology which has changed our lives has been born. I had come

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to see how the software firms here plan to transform another industry.

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The internet revolution has been slow to hit television. Silicon

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Valley believes it can now change our relationship with TV. One small

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San Francisco software company, Dijit, has a big idea. Here is the

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problem. Today is television have almost too much choice. Lots of

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material and the form of movies, programmes, sports and so on. Lots

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of set-top boxes. And all of these remote controls to get access to

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the material. What if we took all of them away and replaced them with

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one second screen, which would enable us to control access to all

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of this television? Dijit believes this second screen, whether a

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tablet computer war smartphone, can make choosing what we watch and

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