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Eit I Tonight at Ten: More setbacks for the NATO-led mission in

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Afghanistan. The Taliban has suspended all talks with the

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Americans on finding a way ahead. And western forces have been told

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by the Afghan government to pull back to their bases. Britain says

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that this does not change the exit strategy.

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We have to be clear that there is a plan in Afghanistan, to hand over

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to a capable Afghan army, police and government at the end of 2014.

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We will do that without a political settlement, or with a political

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settlement. That is up to the Taliban.

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We have the latest from Kabul on the response. Also tonight: In

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Switzerland, the families of children killed in Tuesday's coach

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accident have been visiting the scene. A review of placing in

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England and Wales, recommends radical change, including filetness

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tests. 23 years after the Hillsborough

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football disaster, secret documents show that one police officer blame

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drunken Liverpool fans. It is nonsense. The same old story

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that the Liverpool fans were drunk and ticketless. I was neither.

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There were thousands and thousands of Liverpool fans there.

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COMMENTATOR: Manchester United are out of Europe... Manchester United

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are out of the Europa League to athletica Bilbao.

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And why Matilda is waltzing away with all of the 234078 nations for

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the owe lifaway awards. And a record-breaking day at the

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chelt knack festival as Big Bucks take his fourth World Hurdle. His

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16th win in a row -- Big Bucks. Good evening. The military mission

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in Afghanistan, led led by NATO has suffered more sbs today. The

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Taliban announced it was suspended talks with the American on try to

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find a way forward, Hamid Karzai called on western forces to pull

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back to their bases after an American soldier killed 16

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civilians at the weekend, but David Cameron has told our Political

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Editor, Nick Robinson, that this will not lead to a change of

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strategy. It all began here, almost 7,000 miles from Afghanistan. A

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place where once Twin Towers stood, now a memorial, to the 2,983 who

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died on a single day. David and Samantha Cameron remember

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9/11, she was in New York, he in London.

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For hours, he had no idea whether she was safe.

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Katherine Wolf was not. Her death and many others remembered today,

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triggered a war a decade old and not yet over.

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Do you understand how some people seeing you here may say that so

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much has been sacrificed for so little? Of course. Britain losing

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over 400 of our soldiers. It is worth remembering why we are there,

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this is the right place to remember it. Nearly 3,000 people, including

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68 67 British nationals died here on 9/11. That terrorism was coming

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straight out of Afghanistan, Pakistan, that area of the world.

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But in Afghanistan, today, another setback for hopes of a political

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solution. The Taliban announced that they were no longer prepared

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to talk with the United States. The reason, they claimed, not the

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burning of the coshan, nor the slaughter of 16 civilians by an

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American soldier, but conditions, they said, were put down by

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American negotiators. The Afghan President, Hamid Karzai, adding to

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the pressure, telling the US Defense Secretary, to pull all

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international troops back to their bases. Does it depress you now that

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the talks between the United States and the Taliban e -- seem to be at

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an end? We have to be clear to have a plan in Afghanistan, to hand

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Dover a capable Afghan army, police and government at the end of 2014.

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We do that with or without a political cementment.

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Afghanistan has been the substance that has lain beneath the White

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House splendour. Last night, the Obamas hosted a state dinner,

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attended by the special relationships, the great and the

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good. They dined on bias bias bias, they drank on the prays of one

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leader for another. -- praise.

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In good times and in bad, he is just the kind of partner you want

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at your side. I trust him. He says what he does, and he does what he

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says. I've seen his character. There are three things about Barack

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that really stand out for me, strength, moral authority and

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wisdom. He has pressed the re-set button on the moral authority of

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the entire free world. A conSerb tiv praising Obama's

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strength, in a country where con sefbtis derive their weakness. It

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was their predecessors that began the war that started here it is be

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fitting that David Cameron ends his trip to the United States here.

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This gaping awe-inspiring black hole, all that is left of one of

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the two Twin Towers. A reminder of the roots of the war which the

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Prime Minister and the President are still struggling to end.

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To find an end, with honour. Well, now, for the latest in Kabul,

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the response and how they see what has happened today, let's talk to

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Quintin Sommerville who joins us now. How do you see the impact on

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the exit strategy pursued by the West? Well, two key parts of that

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strategy, you know they lie in ruins. The plan was to fight the

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Taliban on the battlefield and bring them to the negotiating table.

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They refused to come, because they did not want to speak to Hamid

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Karzai. They see him as illegitimate, they see him as an

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American stooge and they refuse to talk with him. The Western

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diplomats here say that the Taliban will never negotiate with Hamid

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Karzai, for as long as he is in the presidential palace, there cannot

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be anything approaching peace talks. The second part was that this was a

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counterinsurgency, the foreign troops living among the Afghan

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people, fighting for them and protecting for them. Hamid Karzai

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has made it clear that foreign troops are no longer welcome.

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Thank you very much. Now, the authorities in Switzerland

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say that eight Belgium children who survived the coach accident in the

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Fernch Alps are being flown home tonight. News came after a day in

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which many of the parents of the 22 children who have died, visited the

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crash site. The last year of primary school,

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and photos of the annual ski trip to the Fernch Alps. Incensible that

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such a fun holiday could this way. The village here has been welcoming

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the group for 13 years. In the same hotel in which they stayed, another

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party was boarding a coach today, the same company, a similar age.

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The local mountain guide here, saw the children on that last fateful

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day of their holiday. TRANSLATION: They were clattering

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through the village, returning from the slopes. In a small village like

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this one, every child feels like one of your own.

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The coach crashed at the end of the winding mountain road, on the first

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stretch of motorway and in the first tunnel. It has been a brutal

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24 hours for the parents. They left their hotel today for the grim task

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of identifying the bodies. And then, the crash site where

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their children had died. We too were taken through the

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tunnel to the spot where the coach had ploughed head on into a

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concrete pillar. There were the flowers laid by the families and on

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the wall the tributes. TRANSLATION: We have identified 19

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of the 28 victims, says the police manman here, but we are still

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trying to identify the remaining nine.

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The cause of the accident is still unknown. The investigation is

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focused on the postmortem of the driver and what is left of the

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vehicle. In this hanger, the crash

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investigators are working through the wreckage to find out why the

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bus swerved as it did. At the moment, there are more questions

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than answers. There was no liquid on the road, no

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ice, no other vehicle involved. The bus was new. Was it the driver who

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suffered a catastrophic heart attack? Or was it just plain and

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simple, driver-error? One theory that is emerging is that the driver

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may have been handling a DVD at the time. If true it will only

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intensify the grief. There was lots of that tonight at the service of

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remembrance here in Sierra Leone, the church was packed.

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-- in sore sore. The church was packed. In the congregation, the

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policemen, the first toy arrive at the scene. The children prayed, the

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parents held them closer and they cried.

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An official report has called for radical changes to the way that

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police in England and Wales are recuted, promoted and paid. The

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changes are to include higher educational requirements to join

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the force, lower starting salaries and Ann newel fitness test for all

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officers. Some have welcome the plans. The main policing union,

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called it a deliberate and sustained attack We have this

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report. They call it, the job, but today's

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reforms are based on the idea that modern police officers should

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consider themselves less as blue colour workers and more as educated

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professionals driven by performance-related pay and

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stricter fitness regimes. At the start of this new police career,

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the salaries will be lower. Currently �23,500, the Windsor

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reforms would see them cut to nds19,000. After all, forces are

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not short of applicants. Working their way up the pay scales

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will depend on performance, not on times served. The type of recruits

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will change. A job with currently no entry requirement, will require

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higher educational standards. 80 graduates a year will be fast-

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tracked to higher ranks, inspector and above, without having to pound

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the beat as a PC. It is a complex environment. It

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requires the most intellectually able people to have the qualities

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which are as important as courage, self-control, the ability to assess

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situations and dealing with people. Dealing with people means chasing

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them, sometimes. The report concludes that not all officers are

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as fit as they could be, so there has been fitness tests prescribed.

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Anyone failing three times, feys a pay cut. Dismissal is an option.

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Officers on the frontline are having a tough time, the summer

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riots, the cuts and now the prospect of sweeping reform.

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Many will see themselves losing tens of thousands of pounds because

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of the first report and then this one. The police officers need it

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live. They have certain commitments, they thought they would get certain

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amounts of pay, that has been slashed.

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Police chiefs wanted Windsor to go further, but Britain's top

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policeman made it clear, that he supports the broad thrust of the

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reforms. When the money is tight, and we

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have to develop our talent and adapt to a new world. These are the

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things that we have to in the least consider. It will take a lot of

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talking and consensus-building, but I'm sure that we can use the ideas

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to develop the police in the future. One thread has been that the police

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have had it too easy for too long. One proposal, that they lose the

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protection that they currently enjoy from being made redundant,

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but the band that stops them going on strike, that is staying.

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New evidence suggests that a further 7,000 women in the UK, many

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have been given sub-standard breast implants, made by PIP. Around

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47,000 women are now believed to have been given the implants. They

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are filled with non-medical medical grade silicone. They are known to

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be caused to rupture. 20 years after the Hillsborough

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investigation, the BBC has seen documents that shows that the

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police blame the situation on drunken fans.

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An official inquiry found that the disaster, which claimed the lives

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of 96 people was caused by poor crowd control by South Yorkshire

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It is almost exactly 23 years since the late up a cup semi-final turned

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to disaster. Fans had gone to watch Liverpool play Nottingham Forest. -

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- since the FA Cup semi-final. The crash happened after an exit gate

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was opened on the orders of South Yorkshire Police and fans surged in.

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The Taylor inquiry blamed a lack of police control. The then Prime

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Minister, Margaret Thatcher, who toured the ground the next day,

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seems to have been told another story. Radio 4's World at One

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programme has seen leaked government documents. In one letter,

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advisers told Mrs Thatcher about comments made by the then Chief

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Constable of Merseyside Police, Sir Kenneth Oxford. He is said to have

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believed that a key factor in causing the disaster was the fact

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that large numbers of Liverpool fans had turned up without tickets.

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This was getting lost sight of in attempts to blame the police, the

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Today, Merseyside Police said it was inappropriate to comment on the

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contents of the letter. Peter Carney survive the crush at

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Hillsborough and was upset to hear the police remarks within the

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government papers. It is absolute nonsense, it is the same old story,

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that Liverpool fans on that day were drunk and ticketless. I was

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neither. Thousands of Liverpool supporters were not. The 96 people

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who died are commemorated here at Anfield. Are their relatives and

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others have long campaigned for full disclosure of all information.

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In 2009, the Hillsborough independent panel was created.

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Today's leaked government documents form just some of thousands of

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papers that the panel is currently examining. Today, a spokesman said

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that its work was complex and difficult, and they are expecting

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to report back in the autumn. Nicholas was 27 when he died at

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Hillsborough. His mother, Pat, is content to wait for the panel to

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analyse all the documents, in the hope that the whole story will then

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emerge. It is like a knife going into your heart and turning all the

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time. Because it has been such a long time for us. Every so often,

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these reports, or information comes out. And it is not the whole truth.

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At Hillsborough, the dead are still remembered. 23 years after

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Britain's worst ever sporting disaster, many say that the truth

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Coming up. It is two for sporting on the night! It is a bad night for

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Manchester City. A joint Manchester United in being knocked out of the

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More than 8,000 people have died in the Syrian uprising in the past

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year, during the latest estimates - - according to the latest estimate

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from the United Nations. One of the victims killed was a 13-year-old

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boy who was picked up by security forces. His family say he was

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tortured to death. Our special correspondent has been speaking to

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his relatives and the report contains some distressing images.

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It is today a city of funerals, as the regime steps up the campaign

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against its enemies. Burnt buildings mark the terrain of

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battle. Yet it was here a year ago that the Syrian people overcame

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their fear. In Deraa, the first large demonstration against the

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Assad regime. At this mosque, the focal point of the demonstrations,

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the cars of the secret police were chased away. Omar, he has asked us

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to protect his identity, was there. You have that feeling, if you will

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ask anyone, they will tell you, that time, we got a kind of freedom.

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But freedom's ecstasy was short. On the same day, the regime hit back.

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These sisters witnessed its brutality. TRANSLATION: One injured

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protester fell to the ground. He tried to escape by crawling to

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safety. But they apprehended him, and beat him up severely with

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batons. I was watching all of this from my window.

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The girl's father filmed the But when I saw the level of

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shooting and killing that we witnessed with our own eyes, we

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decided to go out and protest against the killing and the

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detention of children. The mosque became a place of refuge. A

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makeshift clinic for the injured. Then, on the night of 23rd March,

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the mosque itself was stormed. Above the gunfire, the cleric's

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Over the next month, the crackdown intensified. By 25th April, Deraa

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was under siege. People from outlying villages March to try to

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reach the city. 13-year-old hands are joined them -- marched to try

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to reach the city. The march was attacked and the 13-year-old boy

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was winded and arrested. -- was wounded. TRANSLATION: He was shot

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in the lake and tried to hide behind an olive tree. The security

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forces fountain, arrested him and began slapping him on the neck.

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Then they put him in a car. A month later, his body was returned to his

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family. His uncle was present. I looked at his body, which was

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inches away from me, this small body that was subjected to extreme

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horrific treatment, and hardly anything left intact, I felt pain

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and taking in every cell. He was subjected to the most horrific

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torture, they even cut off his he is. The government denies he was

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tortured but the child became the icon of Syria's revolution. He is

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among hundreds of dead children. Many others are intention --

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detention. Those fateful days in Deraa established a pattern that

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would spread across Syria, of people no longer afraid,

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challenging a government that would resort to ever more ruthless

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methods to stay in power. The image is of a city locked into permanent

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Argentina says it will take legal action against companies involved

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in oil exploration in the Falklands. The Foreign Minister said that oil

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development in the waters was illegal.

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The UK Government said it supported the rights of the islanders to

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develop their oil resources. Plaid Cymru has elected a new

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leader. She is lee Leeanne Wood. Plaid Cymru was in Government with

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Labour until the national assembly elections last year.

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None of us get everything right first time. I don't and I won't as

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leader, but one thing we have always got right and always will is

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that this party, our chief driver, will be the people in this land

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that we love. Leannean Wood.

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Football and it has been a bad night for both of the Manchester

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clubs. Manchester United lost 5-3. City went out on the away goals

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rules. Olly Foster watched the action.

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How about this for a party trick? Get it wrong and need a new short.

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Bilbao put the tie out of Manchester United's reach. Bilbao

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fluffed easier chances than that. Perhaps this defender was getting

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bored at the other end because most of the action was at the Manchester

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United goalmouth. Wayne Rooney did sign off with

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something special, but beaten home and away over the two legs,

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Manchester United returned chaseant after their European travels.

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Manchester City will have heard that result by the time they kicked

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off at home, but Sporting Lisbon wiped the smile off their faces.

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Sporting scored another by half- time and it didn't appear a

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Sporting contest for City. They got three goals.

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One last throw of the of the dice saw the City keeper go for broke,

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but City, like Manchester United, will put their blinkers on for the

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final stretch in the Premier League and that could be a nailbiting

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Ma Matilda the musical leads the race at the Olivier nominations.

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This is my second visit to Matilda. It is an astonishing show.

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Have you come far? From Lancashire. Why this one? I don't know. My

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friend told me about it and when I heard, I was like, "I will go and

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see it now.". Matilda popped up in the nominations for this year's

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Oliviers in every category. For Matilda the musical at

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Cambridge. Ten nominations. Well, it is an

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amazing feeling to be part of something like this. It has been

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right from the beginning. The question is why? For Paul Kay

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it is all about freedom. I pitched my character somewhere between

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Kenneth Connor and Enoch Powell. Maybe kicking the West End up a bit.

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This is a Royal Shakespeare Company production and this path to

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Broadway is becoming a well worn one.

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War Horse brings in �13 million a year. The route is being followed

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by another of its products, One Man Two Governors.

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The commercial theatre doesn't have a bedrock of funding from which to

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develop work and one of the problems of commercial theatre is

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when they make money, they don't reinvest it into the work.

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