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Tonight at Ten. Another fall in unemployment, despite the recession,

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and a record number in work. The jobless total falls by 50,000. It's

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a landmark moment according to Ministers. Unemployment down 50,000

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this quarter. That's a success. The claimant down 4,000. That's a

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success. But Labour says too many jobs are part time, and long-term

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unemployment is on the rise. long-term unemployment, there are

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more people out of work for longer than at any time for two decades.

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That's happening on his watch. We'll be asking what the figures

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might tell us about the state of the economy. Also tonight: After

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last night football scuffles and allegations of racist chanting,

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Serbia is charged by UEFA. How much but cut them by?

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It's full throttle. In the second presidential debate, we'll be

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assessing the impact on the campaign. Energy companies will be

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forced by law to offer customers the cheapest available tariff.

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And a day late, England take on Poland in their World Cup qualifier

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Good evening. Despite the continuing recession, the number

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out of work has fallen again in most of the UK and there's a record

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number of people in employment. The Government says the latest figures

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are a real landmark. But Labour says the number of long-term

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jobless remains high and more people are having to accept part-

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time work. Our chief economics correspondent, Hugh Pym, reports.

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Whether it is on the ground or high above, jobs are being created.

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Developments like this are providing firmer foundations for

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the labour market. It may be in London but some of the thousands of

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jobs it is supporting are far from the capital. Those jobs are both

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within London and throughout the UK. Certain parts of this building are

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prefabricating offsite and are providing jobs in the north of

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England, Yorkshire and Scotland. From manufacturing to service

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industries, there are opportunities, as these young recruits at the

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hotel chain Premier Inn have discovered. Today they met the

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employment Minister, who hailed news that the total number of

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people in work in the economy have gone up again. These are landmark

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figures. More people in work than ever before. 170,000 people fewer

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on benefits since 2010. Unemployment is still quite a bit

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higher than five years ago. At the end of the economic boom it was 1.6

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million. It carried on rising last year before falling back in recent

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months to 2.5 million. So how can the economy be creating jobs when

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it is apparently in decline? Experts are puzzled about that.

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Some feel the output figures are pessimistic and when they are

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revised they will show the economy has been broadly flat rather than

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contracting. The pain has been more evenly shared than in previous

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recessions. Another issue is the increase the part-time work. Most

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of the jobs created in recent years have been part time. People are

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working fewer hours per week than they used to do, so therefore they

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can't produce as much output. don't have to go far from the City

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of London to find a lingering problem. Here the charity Lifeline

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organises training to help the long-term jobless in a programme

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funded by the Government. The total out of work for more than a year is

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rising. Penny is one of them. She's been looking for office work for

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two years but so far has found nothing. I have probably applied

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for about 500 jobs within that region. There's probably maybe 20

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or 30 responses of thank you but no thank you and the rest nothing. And

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that's frustrating. Labour claims that despite sessions like these,

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the Government isn't getting to grips with long-term unemployment.

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An incredible one third of people out of work have been out of work

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for a year. These are people the Government said they were going to

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help with their Work Programme. This is fresh evidence that that

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programme is comprehensively failing. The there's a slide right

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now the outlook seems fair. Live to Downing Street and our

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political editor, Nick Robinson. Nick, when Ministers say these are

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landmark figures, are they suggesting that we've turned a

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corner? They certainly wouldn't dare say that publicly. They

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remember the fate of Norman Lamb on the, who talked about green shoots

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of recovery when Chancellor in the 1990s. Privately they do talk at

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their surprise at these unemployment figures. There was an

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expectation that a recession this deep, this long, was bound to

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produce unemployment above 3 million. Indeed I was told today of

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one official forecaster who thought that if growth had been as flat as

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it has been, indeed that double dip recession, unemployment could have

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been 1.5 million higher than it has turned out to be. So as well as

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that surprise there's puzzlement and frustration. How can it be that

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the economy is apparently flat if not declining at the same time, as

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employment is going up? And there is a Bert awareness that the

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Chancellor when he stands up in seven weeks' time for his big,

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annual Autumn Statement, will have to unveil decisions on tax and

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spending which aren't about employment, but are about those

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growth figures. He may well have to announce to the country that he is

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off-target for his two crucial fiscal rules, the ones that say

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whether he is getting borrowing down and the deficit down, as he

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said he would. Yes, good news, but it is not really putting a huge

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smiles on ministerial faces. Nick, thank you.

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The Serbian Football Association has been charged by UEFA following

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allegations of racist chanting by Serbian fans at last night's match

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against the England Under-21 team. England also face a charge of

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misconduct after an outbreak of violence at the end of the game.

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The English FA says it has strong evidence that black players were

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targeted during the game, a claim strongly denied by the Serbs. Our

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sports correspondent, Dan Roan, has the latest. They were the scenes

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that shamed football. Players and coaches from England's under 21

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squad under physical and verbal attack after their match against

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Serb gentleman last night. Violence on the pitch and racist abuse from

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the stands. CHANTING And the Government has demanded

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football's authorities now act. think everybody is appalled by the

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scenes we saw last night. By any standards they are completely

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unacceptable. They should certain not have happened at a football

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match. We now want aif ta to take the toughest possible measures

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against those found guilty. Tonight both country's Football

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Associations were charged by UEFA for the behaviour of their players

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and the Serbian FA for the alleged chanting of their fans. Danny Rose

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angrily kicked the ball into the crowd and was sent off. The

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defender's gesture making it clear what abuse he felt he had been

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subject to throughout the game. The FA have backed the Sunderland

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player, insisting he and other black team-mates were provoked by

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what they called disgraceful racial abuse. It is quite clear that they

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are making monkey chants. Whether that's because of our Dan, there

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were other players as well, there was other black players in there as

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well and no doubt they were racially abused as well.

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Serbian FA remains defiant. St George's Park, the brand-new

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training base for England's under 21s symbolises a positive new era

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for the national sport. Today the FA lodged a formal complaint with

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UEFA for what it described as the disgraceful events in Serbia.

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John Terry must decide by tomorrow night whether to appeal against his

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four match ban after the former England Captain was found guilty by

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the FA of racially abusing opponent Anton Ferdinand. And some say

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glirbl football must get its own house in order. We are definitely

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vulnerable to cries of hypocrisy, because my opinion on this matter

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is that it is immaterial who you play for. It is immaterial who the

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player is. It is immaterial what country they are from. This isn't

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the first time that Serbian fans have been accused of racism. The

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country's FA was fined just �16,000 five years ago when another black

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England player suffered abuse. A much tougher penalty will be

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expected this time. In America, politicians and

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commentators have spent the day analysing last night's televised

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debate between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. It was the second of

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three presidential encounters, with just three weeks to go to election

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day. Early polling suggests that President Obama was seen as the

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winner, unlike the first debate, which was declared a strong win for

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Mr Romney. Our North America editor, Mark Mardell, watched the latest

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In 19 days time there'll be only one winner. One man will be elected

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President, but now both are claiming victory in the big debate.

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The two men faced questions from the audience, which reflected the

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overwhelming worry - jobs and the economy. What can you say to

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reassure me but more importantly my parents that I will be able to

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support myself after I graduate? What's happened over the last four

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years has been very hard for America's young people. I want tow

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be able to get a job. I know what it takes to get this economy going.

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Mitt Romney says his five-point plan will create 12 million new

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plan. President Obama, under pressure after his dull, passive

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performance after the last debate, went on the attack. He doesn't have

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a five-point plan, he has a one- point plan. To the make sure that

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folks at the top play by a different set of rules. That's been

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his philosophy in the price or, and Governor and as a presidential

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candidate. They paced around each other, two alpha males used to

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getting their own way, determined to have the last word. Not true

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Governor Romney. How much did you cut it by then? They scared up

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uncomfortably close. I had a question and the question was how

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much did you cut them by? Do you want me to answer? I'm happy to

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answer the question. Alright, and it is... The tension was punctured

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bay moment by an odd phrase by Mitt Romney talking about equal

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opportunities. I went to a number of women's groups and asked them to

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find folks. The most ill tempered clash came over the murder of

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America's ambassador to Libya. let me call it an act of terrorism.

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Slapped down by the Moderator Mitt Romney found it hard to recover.

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took them a long time to say this was a terrorist act by a terrorist

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group. Am I incorrect in that regard? On Sunday your secretary...

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Excuse me. President Obama strode over, intimidating his floundering

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opponent. Some voters were shock by the brutality of the confrontations.

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A lots of the money points that Americans wanted to hear weren't

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heard because of the aggression. That kind of put me off. I didn't

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think it was going to be as aggressive. I know that Mitt Romney

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is that way but I didn't think And become that aggressive May be

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offputting to some, but what this debate has done is put Obama back

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in the game. Quelled the fear of supporters that he didn't have the

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fight left in him. There's still everything to play for.

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Energy companies are to be forced to give customers the cheapest

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available tariff, according to the Prime Minister. Details of the

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initiative are expected to come in the Government's Energy Bill in the

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next few weeks. The move comes after a number of gas and

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electricity companies announced above inflation price increases.

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Our industry correspondent, John Moylan, is with me now. How would

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it work? Not very clear. Up until now, the onus has been on you and

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me to find ourselves the best energy deal by switching et cetera.

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Now the accepts from this is the onus will be on the companies to

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make sure we are on the best deal and perhaps force us on to the best

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deal as well. All we know is what the Prime Minister said today. He

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said the Government would legislate so that energy companies have to

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give the lowest tariff to their customers. I spoke to a Number Ten

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spokesperson who said they are looking at a number of options. One

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might be you receive a letter from your energy company telling you you

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could be on a better deal and they intend switching you to save money

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unless you choose to opt out. There's a sense of compulsion. In

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another part of Government, the department for energy, they are

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moving away from that sense of compulsion, simply saying not

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enough people are switching. They want more people to switch, and

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putting the emphasis on a greater obligation on firms to ensure that

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customers are on the best or the lowest tariff. There is confusion

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tonight. There's a sense of a policy which to be charitable

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hasn't been fully formed yet. The companies don't like it. They

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didn't know anything about it. These are the same companies that

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are asked to invest billion to keep the lights on in future. Tonight

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one of the main switching websites has warned that they've said this

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has to be a mistake. The unintended consequences of this would be to

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The Government's Chief Whip, Andrew Mitchell, is reported to have been

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criticised by several Conservative MPs at a meeting this evening,

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where they discussed his confrontation with a police officer

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outside Downing Street. Labour has renewed its call for Mr Mitchell to

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be sacked. An almighty row between the Cabinet minister and police was

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always going to make the headlines but this just won't blow over. It's

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four weeks since police reported that Andrew Mitchell swore at them

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and called them plebs at the gits of Downing Street. Today pressure

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mounted at Mr Mitchell faced calls from Tory MPs to resign and rumours

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swept Westminster that his deputy wanted to quit. He usually stays

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behind the scenes. Today he was the focus of attention. What the Chief

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Whip did was wrong, that's why he had to apologise and apologise

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properly. It has been accepted by the officer concerned and the head

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of the Metropolitan Police. Mitchell looked uncomfortable as Ed

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Miliband said he should have been arrested like any other yob who had

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sworn at police and he seized on reports that the Chief Whip had

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headed off to an exclusive private members club after the

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confrontation. While it is a nit in a cell for the yobs, it is a night

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in the Carlton Club for the Chief Whip. Isn't that the clearest case

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there could be of total double standards. He doesn't want to talk

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about how we build on our record in unemployment. He has no plans. He

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doesn't want to talk about how we reform we will faifrplt he is

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opposed to welfare caps. That is the truth. -- how we will reform

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welfare. He has nothing serious to say.

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say I practise class war and they go around calling people plebs. It

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is good it seat Cabinet in their place roping him in public but in

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the newspapers he is undermined. His position is untenal. In other

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words, he's toast. Later Mr Mitchell's deputy was said to be on

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the verge of quitting. He met the Prime Minister in Downing Street

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and Number Ten insisted there would be no resignations. Tonight

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Conservative MPs spent more than half an hour in a room upstairs

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discussing Andrew Mitchell's future. He may be the Chief Whip, the man

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supposed to be in charge of party discipline but several spoke out

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against him, some calling for him to resign. Senior Conservative

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sources acknowledge that Mr Mitchell has been weakened by this

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whole affair and they say he'll have to rebuild relationships with

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colleagues in the coming months. REPORTER: Prime Minister is it time

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for Mr Mitchell to go? Many believe Mr Cameron has missed his chance to

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sack Andrew Mitchell, the damage has already been done.

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Coming up: Wayne Rooney on target as England

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strike first but it is a draw against Poland.

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Now leading universities in England should provide weekly grants to A-

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level students from poorer backgrounds to help them win

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university places. It's one of the main recommendations by the former

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Labour minister Alan Milburn who will publish a report tomorrow on

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higher education and social mobility. He says more attention

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should be paid to the applicant's background when university places

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are decided. Getting pupils from poorer

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backgrounds into top universities has proved a hard nut to crack. Too

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few applicants with too few A grades among them are major factors.

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It is an issue for ministers, schools and universities. A day out

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at an Oxford college from 14 and 15-year-olds from ordinary schools.

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Oxford does this outreach work regularly in an effort to demystify

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the place and encourage them to apply It is a really good. Off

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taste of something different and new that you don't normally do. It

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is nice to see what it is like to be at university. Everyone deserves

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a chance. It doesn't matter what ethnic background, or what your

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parents are like. Number of students from poorer backgrounds

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has gone up significantly in the last 15 years or so but not at the

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most selective universities. Oxford now says it is casting its net

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wider to try to get a broader range of students. I'm studying

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interactive media. The Government's social be mobility advisor Alan

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Milburn wants all universities to go further. He says they spend

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hundreds ve mill yonges of reduced fees and bursaries from poorer

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students, defined as those on free school meals or those from

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neighbourhoods where few go ton higher education. He says they

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should invest earlier. Rather than spending this money on hopeless

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things like fee-waivers that have no impact on who gets into

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university, they should instead take some of that money, and

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apolyit to kids who are studying in disadvantaged schools, in hard-

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pressed areas, to give them a financial incentive. He wants

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universities to fund a new education maintenance a lowance

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which was scrapped in England and led to protests.

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He wants a cheaper scheme with money taken from bursaries. Abbey

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is from a low income family and got into Oxford after coming from a

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summer school. She says getting a bursary really helps. I wouldn't

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have been able to join in with all of the social aspects and I would

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have felt left out. Alan Milburn wants social background routinely

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considered when the universities make offers. I think that's the

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most controversial aspect of all of the different reports that Alan

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Milburn has produced, whether or not universities should target

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particular applicants because of the kind of school they go to. We

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have always been opposed to the idea of targets or quotas of that

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kind. These are just recommendation bus if they are acted on, they

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could change the social make-up of England's top universities.

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Now in the US a man has been arrested over an alleged plot to

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detonate what he believed to be a massive bomb in front of the

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Federal Reserve building in New York. The FBI says the man, from

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Bangladesh, was tracked by agents who sold him fake explosives. Let's

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talk to our correspondent Barbara Plett in New York. What do you

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have? Well we are told by the Justice Department that this

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Bangladeshi man arrived in the United States back in January with

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the intention of carrying out a terrorist attack here. But when he

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tried to recruit people to help him, he inadvertently contacted an. If

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bi. Informer and he was closely monitored. It was an FBI agent

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pretending to be an Al-Qaeda facilitator who supplied him with

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what he thought was explosives. The agent was with him this morning

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when he assembled what he thought was a 1,000 lb bomb and parked it

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next to the Federal Reserve bang and when he tried to detonate it.

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He was arrested immediately afterwards. Clearly this was a

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sting operation, with all the intended pitfalls of possible

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entrapment which the agents would have been aware of. They followed

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him right to the toned try to get as much evidence as possible to try

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to use against him in court. -- followed him right to the end.

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jury has failed to reach a verdict in the case of a man accused of

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supplying a gun to Mark Duggan, whose fatal shooting by police

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sparked the riots in August last year. Kevin Hutchinson-Foster was

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accused of selling or transferring a prohibited firearm to Mr Dug dau,

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charge he denied. The trial has revealed new details about the

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shooting. -- Mr Duggan. This is Kevin Hutchinson-Foster,

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now facing re-trial after a jury failed to reach a verdict on

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whether he'd supplied this gun to a man who became famous for all the

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wrong reasons. That man was Mark Duggan, shot dead

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by police, in August last year. A killing that sparked the Tottenham

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riots and all the unrest across England that followed.

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These images of Mark Duggan on the ground surrounded by paramedics

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showed the aftermath of the shooting but for the past three

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weeks a court has heard for the first time evidence of what came

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first. This is the spot where the minicab in which Mark Duggan was

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travelling was intercepted by police. They say as he got out of

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the cab he pulled a gun from the waistband of his trousers. They

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thought he was going to shoot so, they fired first. But they were the

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only witnesses who said they saw Mark Duggan holding a gun.

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There were conflicting accounts of what happened. After Mark Duggan

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fell to the ground, no gun was found on him. One eye witness told

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the court she saw police take a gun from the minicab. But police say

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they found it at least 12 feet away, to the other side of railings.

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Loaded but not fired, and with no trace of Mark Duggan's finger

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sprints. Kevin Hutchinson-Foster admitted he himself had borrowed

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the gun a week earlier. He used it to beat a barber at this Hackney

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hair salon, now under different ownership. He denied giving it to

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Mark Duggan. This firearm was being moved around or it is suggested

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that it was being moved around from one criminal to another criminal.

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It was being leased or loaned in order to scare, intimidate, maybe

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not necessarily to commit a crime such as a murder, maybe, but

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clearly to intimidate and frighten another person. The trial has told

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us much more than we ever knew about the shooting of Mark Duggan

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but key questions remain unanswered. Was he holding a gun? And were the

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police right to shoot him? Football and England took on Poland

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in Warsaw this afternoon in a World Cup qualifier. The match was called

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off yesterday after the heavy rain flooded the pitch. There are mixed

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fortunes for England. The calm after the storm. After

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Tuesday's washout, Warsaw basked once more in glorious sunshine and

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those England fan that is managed to stay on arrived for the game

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with bags packed and plans to make quick gettaways. I could make the

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first half and then a mad dash to the airport. I have an 8.00 flight.

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I have a 5.00 flight. When they kick-off I will be taking off.

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extra rest worked in Poland's favour and pe thought England under

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pressure. Robert Lewandowski wasting one of a number of chances

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created by the hosts. Then against the run of play, Wayne Rooney took

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advantage of poor Polish marking. It could have been 2-0 midway

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through the second half but Rooney for once lacked his usual composure

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on the heavy surface that. Scoreline would have been unfair on

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the Polish and with 17 minutes to go, they got their reward. It was

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left to England's manager to acknowledge after the game, that it

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wasn't his team's night. Well, I'm pleased we didn't lose the game. I

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don't think it was one of our better performances. I maybe

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underestimated the fact that we had to stay the extra night and that

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the pitch was a little bit sodden. There was disappointment from both

:26:41.:26:47.

players and manager alike over the level of performance on the

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