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David Cameron's referendum gamble which could take Britain out of the

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European Union within five years. He says he will renegotiate

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Britain's links with the The And then, if he is still Prime Minister,

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give the public a chance to decide, in or out of Europe. It is time for

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the British people to have their say. It is time to settle this

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question about Britain and Europe. In a noisy Commons exchange, Labour

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accused the Prime Minister of acting to appease his own

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backbenchers. Why doesn't he admitted? You have been driven to

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it not by national interests, but been dragged to it by his party.

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will be looking at how the move has gone down with European leaders and

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business. All change for A-level students in England. From 2015 they

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will sit just one set of exams after two years.

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Unemployment is down again, falling to its lowest level for 18 months.

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And Prince Harry, back in Britain and talking more about his role in

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killing the Taliban. You get asked to do things that you would expect

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to do, wearing his uniform. It's as simple as that, really. Coming up

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in Sportsday on the BBC News Channel, Swansea take on Chelsea

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for the right to play Bradford in the League Cup final at Wembley. We

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will have all of the action from Good evening. The Prime Minister

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staked his future and that of the UK on a political gamble today.

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Holding out the prospect of a referendum that could end more than

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40 years of Britain within the European Union. It came in his

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promise that if he is still Prime Minister after the next election

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there will be a referendum by 2017 on whether the UK should stay in or

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pull out of the dew. But not before he tries to negotiate our links

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with Europe and reform it from within. It met with a mixed

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response from other European leaders. Labour said the pledge of

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a referendum in future means years of uncertainty.

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No speech by the Prime Minister has been agonised over by so long. None

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will be of such consequence. None based on a bigger political gamble.

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David Cameron promised you a vote today on whether Britain stays in

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Europe or whether we should get out. But listen hard. This is a vote

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that will not come now and it will not come before the next election.

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The next Conservative manifesto in 2015 will ask for a mandate from

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the British people for a Conservative government to

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negotiate a new settlement with our European partners in the next

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Parliament. When we have negotiated that new settlement, we will give

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the British people a referendum with a very simple in or out choice.

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To stay in the European Union, on these new terms, or to come out

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altogether. It will be an in-about referendum. Europe had to change,

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he said, to become more, if flexible and accountable. The

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mission should no longer be ever- closer union. If not, it is clear

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why he thought we were heading. we do not address these challenges,

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the danger is that Europe will fail and the British people will drift

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towards the exit. I do not want that to happen. I want the European

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Union to be a success and I want the relationship between Britain

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and the European Union that keeps us in it.

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The last time, indeed the only time Britain had a vote on Europe was

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way back in 1975, when television graphics were a little bit more

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basic. Back then, Harold Wilson and Margaret Thatcher voted yes. David

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Cameron's promise to vote could be another four years away. What would

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he do? When that referendum comes, let me say now if we can negotiate

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such an arrangement, I will campaign for it with all my heart

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and soul. What the Prime Minister did not say was what New Deal he

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really wanted or what he would do if Europe said know. If you cannot

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get a better deal, are you saying you would vote no for Britain to be

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out of Europe? If you fudge the question command we entitled to

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assume that you want people to think that, but who we are scared

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to say it? I will answer that directly. Who goes into a

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negotiation hoping and expecting to fail? Come noon, the first test of

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how the big speech went down. This, the sound of Tory MPs gritting

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their leader's arrival in the Commons. Less impressed, the Labour

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leader, who condemned a speech he said was written to please them,

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not the country. Why can't you say unequivocally that he will vote yes

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in a referendum? Because he is frightened of the people behind him.

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The only thing that has changed is a few months ago, when he said he

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was against an in or out referendum, it is not the situation in Europe

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but the situation in the Tory party. Why doesn't he admitted? He's been

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driven to it, not by the national interest, but been dragged to it by

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his party. The most basic question of all is, do you want a

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referendum? I do, does he? No, we do not want an in-out referendum!

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Clear enough, you might think, until his spin-doctors explained he

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didn't mean no in any circumstances, just no to making the promise now.

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Labour's opponents are smelling blood. I think his stance on no

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referendum will drive traditional Labour voters to UKIP. I think the

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civil war that you have seen in the Conservative Party on this issue,

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you will see in the Labour Party as well. But Labour is not alone on

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condemning the promise. Even the Prime Minister's own deputy says he

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should be focusing on turning the economy around. That job is made

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all the more hard if we have years of grinding uncertainty because of

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the ill-defined and protracted negotiation of Britain's status in

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the European Union. That, in my view, will hit growth and jobs and

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that is why it is not in a national interests, in my view. The speech

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David Cameron delivered to be the first step towards a European exit

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for Britain. The Prime Minister insists it is not what he wants or

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believes will happen. But what he has done today is to ensure that he

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is no longer in charge. He claims Well, the Prime Minister claims

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public disillusionment with the EU is at an all-time high and it is

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time the British people have their say. Richard Bilton has been to

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Birmingham, to gauge their reaction to our relationship with Europe and

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Mr Cameron's plan to change it. Over the past week, the Midlands

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has worried more about its relationship with the Arctic and

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Europe. But what do those enjoying warm cappuccinos and lattes think

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of the Prime Minister's view that disillusionment with the EU is at

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an all-time high? I am more concerned about all of the cuts

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going on at the moment. I think we need to worry more about what is

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happening at home rather than in Europe. I would like to see a

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debate. I think it should be up to the public too at least to voice

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their opinion, if not make the decision. It's just seems like they

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are point scoring off each other. I don't know how that translates down

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into normal people's lives, really. Birmingham sees itself as in the

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industrial heartland. Metal-bashing is not what it was. But it means

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that in places like this the UK's relationship with Europe is about

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more than just politics. It is about jobs and livelihood. Here,

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they do not bash metal, but they do manufacture. These precision tools

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are used by industries around the world. The managing director says

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that Europe is no longer the key market, but the debate is important.

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Too much of the regulation that comes out of Europe, a lot of the

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waste that we see, we do not want to be part of that. What we need to

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do is to renegotiate our position, but remain in it. Down the road, a

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different side of the UK economy. This is a distribution centre.

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These water and gas meters are not made here, but from here they head

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out across Europe. I think it is a mistake. And in-out referendum can

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harm my business. It will introduce uncertainty into the marketplace

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and that is going to cause difficulties for this business.

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of the shopfloor, the concern was not about Europe but about jobs.

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The company I work with, progression, if it keeps us in work

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and successful, there are no problems. So, what will the issues

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be? Tonight, at a city-centre fitness class, strong views on the

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Prime Minister's call for a national debate. I think we have

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more in common with the United States than anybody. I would be

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more inclined to stick by ourselves. It compromises a lot of people and

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its country and a lot of jobs that rely on what comes from Europe.

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Polls suggests that for many people in the UK, hour relationship with

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Europe has become less of a political issue. Today, David

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Cameron brought it back into the spotlight.

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The reaction from Britain's European partners have been mostly

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polite, but clear remits advice against steering the UK out of the

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European Union. Some welcomed Mr Cameron's plans to reform the EU,

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others criticised him for trying to cherry-pick elements that he wanted.

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Angela Merkel said she was prepared Berlin. Chilly and uneasy. The

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Government here had been nervous about David Cameron's speech,

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despite being briefed beforehand. Even on the streets there is an

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understanding that leaving the EU is now an option for Britain.

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it is absolutely really a pity. I think we need Great Britain in the

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EU. It is time for Britain to decide if they are wholly want to

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belong to the European project will not. Soon after, the German

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Chancellor said Germany was prepared to talk about Britain's

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wishes. Angela Merkel said a fair compromise was needed, balance in

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Britain's demands with those of other countries. Her foreign

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minister made it clear that what they couldn't accept his Britain

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picking and choosing what it liked and disliked. Cherry-picking is not

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an option. In challenging times of globalisation, we as Europeans are

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all in the same boat. The German and French leaders had met last

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night and had co-ordinated their response to David Cameron's speech.

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The French are also willing to discuss a more open, flexible dew.

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But no special deal for the UK. EU. TRANSLATION: Imagine that they

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dew as a football club. Once you're in this club, you cannot say, we

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want to play rugby. San MEPs in Brussels watched the speech. Some

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welcomed his vision for a leaner, less bureaucratic Europe. It was a

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breakthrough speech, a remarkable speech which set up a completely

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new vision of the European Union for the future. David Cameron is

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now at the World Economic Forum in Davos. Also there, one of his

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closest allies in Europe, the Prime Minister of Sweden. David Cameron

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is not the only one who has been presenting ideas how to reshape

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Walter the direction of the European co-operation. I have

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listened to others, we have been able to solve this in a way that is

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good for everyone. The message coming out of Berlin today is very

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much shared in other capitals. Yes, they want Britain to stay in the EU,

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but not at any price. The door is not close to offering some

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concessions. But there is little appetite to give Britain a whole

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range of opt-outs just for itself. The reality is that Britain will

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need the support of the 26 other Aru members to claw back powers

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from Europe. That is likely to be a In moment we'll get a final thought

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from Nick Robinson in Downing Street. First let's cross to the

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World Economic Forum in Davos. Our Economics Editor, Stephanie

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flanders is there. Drm has arrived there now. What are business

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leaders saying there about what Mr Cameron has had to say?

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Stephanie, in Davos, can you hear Well, this is the World Economic

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Forum. It's full of business leaders from around the world and

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politicians. It is fair to say they are not all talking about David

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Cameron and his speech. I think people who are active in Britain

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and the British business leaders have had a mixed reaction, much as

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you have heard in the UK. Lee liked what they heard about the single

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market. The idea that the single market, not the single currency is

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the most important idea in the European Union. Those that have to

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deal with Brussels regulations on a day-to-day level are sympathetic

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with the idea that Brussels needs to be reined in, that there needs

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to be less regulation in Europe. But they are nervous. There is

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certainly some business leaders, who have written a letter to the

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Times tomorrow, eng dorsing David Cameron's approach, he think he has

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done the right thing. -- endorsing. Others are worried. Even those who

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are sympathetic with David Cameron and agree with what he said in his

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speech,, it is hard if find people who feel happy. Others are nervous

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about it. They are not sure it is a process they could control. No-one

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is selling the pound on the basis of this. They do not do anything on

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the financial on the basis of what might happen in five years' time.

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But there is a nervousness, will it have the result that David Cameron

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hopes it will. Nick Robinson, this speech long-awited by the Prime

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Minister, has turned out to be a high-stakes gamble, isn't it? -

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long awaited. Ye, but it is one he thinks he is pulling off. Those

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Tories MP cheering in the Commons today think they have something to

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cheer about and woo back their voters who have gone over to the UK

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Independence Party and think they have the Labour Party in a corner,

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with Ed Miliband today either looking like he is opposed to the

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public having their say or worse, still, he is confused about whether

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they should have a say or not. You might think the job is done for the

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Prime Minister? Well, not a bit of it. Why? Because David Cameron when

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he first became Tory leader, told his party in no uncertain terms -

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one of the reasons they have lost is they appeared to bang on about

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Europe and obsess about it. In a way, he has given them permission

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to do just that, through the next election, for the next five years.

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In other words, there are now Euro- sceptic Tory MPs who are telling me

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- this we are banking, but from now on, we will demand to know from the

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Prime Minister exactly what powers he wants to get back from Brussels.

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We will demand from him that he ups his negotiating position. We will

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demand that he says that he is prepared to vote no in that

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referendum if he doesn't get his way. What's more, Fiona, this is

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another example of a policy that has driven the coalition partners,

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the Liberal Democrats, into the arms of the Labour Party, not

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somewhere the Conservatives may wish them to be. One last thought

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for you, though: the curiosity of tonight is this: I'm speaking to

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pro-Europeans who believe this speech will save Britain's

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membership of the EU, including some very close to the Prime

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Minister. I'm talking to anti- Europeans who believe that it'll

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lead to Britain inexorablely leaving the EU. They can't both be

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right. When they work that out, they're likely to be pretty

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unforgiving. Thank you both very much.

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Coming up: Prince Harry after his tour of

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Afghanistan. Back to normal life? He says he has never known what a

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normal life is. There is to be a shake-up in the

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way A-level students are tested in England. Instead of modules, tests

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and assessments, pupils will just sit exams at the end of their two-

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year course. The Education Secretary, Michael Gove, says AS-

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level will remain but will not effect the eventual A-level result.

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Labour has accused him of turning back the clock. Stkpwhrts back to

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the future for A-levels. -- It's back to the future. From 2014 sixth

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formers in England will take exams only at the end of a two-year

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course with AS levels no longer counting towards the final grade.

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We wanted to essentially try to ensure that A-levels, which are

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primarily but not exclusively preparation for university

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education, gave people a better preparation for what universities

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involved. He wants to get rid of what he calls bite-sized learning

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and have more detailed study. At this school in London sixth formers

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considered the plans. I think it would deer if students from going

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it sixth form. Because of the pressure. -- it would deter.

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wouldn't be able to handle the pressure of knowing the final

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examination, my last chance to shine, was it. Michael Gove says

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end of course exams rather than modules will help promote deeper

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learning and understanding. No-one is against his aims but many

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question the methods. Among them, Cambridge, which uses AS-level

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taken at the year of age 12, to make offers to sixth formers.

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have found in this university that year 12 results are the best

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guidance we have about how well a student can go on and perform when

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here. To lose that would throw us back on GCSE results or optimistic

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predictions of what they may do in the future. Neither of which is

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anywhere near as good as the actual proper exam results of year 12.

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Pupils in Wales and Northern Ireland will have to wait to find

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out the future of both A-levels and GCSEs for them. But in England, the

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modular system of secondry exams does look set to bite the dust.

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Unemployment has fallen to its lowest level for 18 months. The

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number of UK jobless fell by 37,000 in the last quarter to just under

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2.5 million, the lowest since spring 2011. Hugh Pym is with me.

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We keep hearing about unemployment falling but the economy is still

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struggling. What is going on? these figures were a lot stronger

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than most analysts had expected. One or two are wondering whether

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they give a true picture of what is really going on, rather than some

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other data around. Let's look at the figures. You will see in the

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three months ending in November there were nearly 30 million people

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in work. That's a record. If you go back over the 12 months leading up

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to that three-month period, you see an increase of people in work of

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more than 500,000. That's the fastest rate of increase since the

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late 1980s. These are headline figures but even if you look at the

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employment rate as a percentage of the workforce, that's up too.

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was more positive news on the jobs front, McDonald's saying they want

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to create 2,500 new jobs. On the other hand, Lloyds Banking Group

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saying it wanted to cut 1,000 posts. A few uncertainties. We'll get

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another key bit of the economic jigsaw on Friday, with the GDP

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figures for the last quarter of last year. Most people expecting

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something weaker than the Olympic- fuelled third-quarter figures.

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There are warnings tonight that changes to housing benefit could

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lead to a rise in evictions. From October, the benefit will no longer

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be paid directly to the landlord but to the tenant months a month.

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The National Housing Federation say they expect rent arrears to

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increase by one quarter of a billion pounds a year. In a survey,

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the majority of tenants said they would struggle to prioritise saving

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money for the rent, over money for food and other daily costs.

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Will Rick pay his rent? A former executive at a global IT company,

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he lost a leg after being run over and subsequently developed multiple

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sclerosis. He now lives on benefits in North Liverpool with his helper

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dog, Shadow, but Rick worries about the shadow Government welfare

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reform has cast upon him and many of his neighbours. We are here to

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help. It is a strong message. Rick's landlord, a social housing

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association, is explaining how responsibility for paying the rent

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will soon switch to tenants, remember than housing benefit going

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straight to the provider. -- rather than. Your income is decreasing. It

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is getting squeezed. Sometimes there is going to be a short fall.

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The biggest risk you've got is, if you allow that short fall to come

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out of your rent pot, you are facing eviction. Many people in an

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area like this live hand-to-mouth. It is a cash economy often based on

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weekly benefit payments with the rent already taken out. Now the

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Government wants people it take be responsibility for their budgets, -

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- to take. Managing their welfare payments online and seeing their

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payments going into a bank account on a monthly basis. I find it hard

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enough as it is doing is fortnightly rather than monthly. I

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have two small children. To be honest I'm in a hole. If the money

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comes to me, I wouldn't give it to my landlord. To be honest. You will

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face eviction. That's what I'm saying. The biggest social landlord

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around here is worried. Half its tenants don't have the internet. A

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quarter don't have a bank account. If our arrears goes up it affects

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the credibility of our business, in terms of how we borrow money to

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build the new houses you see here. And how we can support the local

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comoopbt and how we repair our maintain our homes. -- the local

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community. It is suggested aren't arrears will increase by one

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quarter of a billion a year, a 60% rise. In an echo of the days when

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people struggling on low incomes would hide from or plead with the

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rent man, Government pilots have seen many more social tenants

:23:43.:23:53.

falling behind with rents. We are treating social tenants the same so

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they learn budgeting skills and if they move into work it is not a

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shock. We recognise a minute or the will struggle and they'll need

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special support. But the norm is people will have an income coming

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in and they'll budget out of it. Some vulnerable tenants will be

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allowed to switch back to the old system but many in the housing

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field, fear it won't be enough and we'll see thousands of people

:24:13.:24:21.

losing their homes. Football and tonight's saw Swansea

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city City take on Chelsea for the right to join Bradford City in the

:24:27.:24:31.

final of the Capital One Cup. Look away now if you don't want to know

:24:31.:24:34.

the skofrplt The main incident came in the

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second half when Chelsea Eden Hazard was sent off after kicking a

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ball boy who was lying on top of a bull after it had gone out of play.

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The match ended 0-0, making it 2-0 on aggregate to Swanseament Prince

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Harry has flen back to Britain after a if you are-month Dewer of

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duty in Afghanistan. -- flown back. He landed in RAF brieznor tan this

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afternoon on a regular personnel flight. He has been recognised for

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some comments that he took the enemy out of the game and that

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soldiers had to save a life." An RAF plane, returning from the

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Afghan desert to waipbtery air bais. Its occupants left behind the

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frontline where Harry felt he was one of the guys, able to forget his

:25:25.:25:30.

destiny. Not any more. Disembarking, the soldier Prince was in

:25:30.:25:33.

reflective mood about his life. There is nothing normal about what

:25:33.:25:36.

we have been doing for the last four-and-a-half months and nothing

:25:36.:25:40.

normal about what is going on out there. In the last day I was there

:25:40.:25:45.

a seven-year-old girl got shot down by insurgents. So, you know,

:25:45.:25:51.

normality is a very, very ambiguous thing, if you know what I mean.

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For 20 weeks in Afghanistan as Captain Wales he served his country

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and his grandmother. Not on the ground but 2,000 feet up as an

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Apache helicopter co-pilot and gun ir. His job was to protect troops

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down below and when necessary, to kill Taliban fighters. His talk of

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taking people out of the game who "did bad stuff to our guys" has

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angered some. You get asked to do things. You get asked to do things

:26:19.:26:22.

you would expect to do wearing this uniform. That's as simple as that,

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really. For now, Prince Harry will continue

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