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Afternoon. Welcome to this final Daily Politics special of the | :00:31. | :00:36. | |
2011AD conference season. We are live from the Conservative Party | :00:36. | :00:38. | |
Conference. Last year the Prime Minister told this conference the | :00:38. | :00:44. | |
British economy was "Out of the danger zone." This year with the | :00:44. | :00:48. | |
economy stagnant and the eurozone crisis heading towards a | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
potentially disastrous climax, Britain is back this the danger | :00:52. | :00:56. | |
zone. David Cameron will attempt to reassure the faithful and convince | :00:56. | :01:00. | |
the wider public that he has the leadership and the vision to steer | :01:00. | :01:04. | |
Britain through the grimmest economic outlook for the country | :01:04. | :01:09. | |
since the IMF bailed us out in the mid-1970s. | :01:09. | :01:13. | |
We will bring you all the build-up to this important speech, which we | :01:13. | :01:19. | |
expect to begin in about half an hour. We will bring you live and | :01:19. | :01:24. | |
uninterrupted coverage. At least we hope uninterrupted. Jo's in | :01:24. | :01:28. | |
Manchester too. As you can see, people are queuing to get into the | :01:28. | :01:31. | |
conference hall. I'll be outside, getting reactions to the Prime | :01:31. | :01:37. | |
Minister's speech. We will look back over David Cameron's year, | :01:37. | :01:41. | |
with former Tory leadership hopeful Michael Portillo. | :01:41. | :01:46. | |
Cameron's recipe for gaining power was to move the Conservatives to | :01:46. | :01:50. | |
the soft-centre of British politics, hugging the National Health Service | :01:50. | :01:57. | |
and embracing climate change. In office, he's moved away from the | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
middle-ground. That does not mean he'll lose the next general | :01:59. | :02:03. | |
election. And they toil over the final text, | :02:03. | :02:07. | |
but as we have discovered today, things don't always go to plan. I | :02:07. | :02:12. | |
will talk to a former speech writer who thinks the speech should be | :02:12. | :02:22. | |
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If he gets his way we'll all be out of a way. How dare he suggest we | :02:25. | :02:31. | |
scrap the speech writer's speech. The party faithful here are waiting | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
to get in. It has been a low-key conference for them. They hope the | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
Prime Minister will fire them up and send them away with a spring in | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
their step. Difficult economic times is the backdrop to his speech, | :02:44. | :02:50. | |
as we await the Prime Minister's speech. He may go through a final, | :02:50. | :02:57. | |
final draft we have the warmest act. Benedict Brogan from the Telegraph | :02:57. | :03:04. | |
and Paul Waugh from Politics Home. I come to you, Ben, because the | :03:04. | :03:08. | |
Telegraph has flashed on it. You were briefed by Cameron's people | :03:08. | :03:11. | |
that he told us we would have to pay off our credit cards and that | :03:11. | :03:15. | |
was the best way to help the British economy. By this morning, | :03:15. | :03:19. | |
that was not the brief. What happened? After our splash emerged | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
and others led with it, you could tell there were anxious faces on | :03:23. | :03:26. | |
the Downing Street team. They were looking worried. That is not the | :03:26. | :03:31. | |
message they intended to get out. That is the problem with these pre- | :03:31. | :03:38. | |
briefing speeches, you never know which lines journalists will find | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
interesting. This is what happens at party conferences. In the end | :03:41. | :03:45. | |
the authorised version of the speech is the one he delivers from | :03:45. | :03:49. | |
the stage. I have not seen the rowing back in recent times as big | :03:49. | :03:57. | |
as this. It's hard for them to get out of. All parties do, they say | :03:57. | :04:01. | |
the media misunderstands. They printed out chunks of the speech | :04:01. | :04:08. | |
and gave it to us. They did. The key line was, that means households, | :04:08. | :04:14. | |
all of us are paying off... Should be paying off the credit card and | :04:14. | :04:19. | |
store bills. They have amended it to say that households are paying | :04:19. | :04:25. | |
off credit card and store card bills. Although there's no plan B | :04:25. | :04:30. | |
for the economy there is a plan B to change the script to make sure | :04:30. | :04:35. | |
he's not as out of touch as that would sound. The embarrassment for | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
them, and the spin doctors are running all over the place, some | :04:39. | :04:44. | |
tried to get into this studio when we were live on air. The | :04:44. | :04:48. | |
embarrassment is at a time of grim economic news a Government should | :04:48. | :04:52. | |
be presenting a picture of competence and conviction and a | :04:52. | :04:56. | |
safe pair of hands? The difficulty for David Cameron is he wants to | :04:56. | :05:00. | |
sound optimistic this afternoon while all around us and beyond | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
Manchester the world seems to be falling apart, at least | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
economically. That is hardly reassuring for him. The difficulty | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
is he has an economic challenge. On one hand he's telling people they | :05:11. | :05:15. | |
should be paying down their credit card bills. The message has been | :05:15. | :05:18. | |
we've got too much debt. At the same time the economists are | :05:18. | :05:28. | |
standing up say, hang on if everybody pays, we have the economy. | :05:28. | :05:36. | |
My impression is it is a low-key affair so far. They are in | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
reasonable spirits but seem apprehensive. What does he need to | :05:39. | :05:45. | |
do to them today? He needs to fire them up. He is a competent Speaker, | :05:45. | :05:50. | |
unlike Ed Miliband and Nick Clegg, he has several gears when he goes | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
through a speech. He can change the pace of it. He will fire them up | :05:53. | :05:58. | |
with this attempt to bridge the reality of the economic downturn | :05:58. | :06:01. | |
with the optimism of the future. It is that bridge between the realism | :06:01. | :06:08. | |
and optimism, he's got to convey to punters at home. He famously said | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
when Leader of the Opposition, "Let sunshine win the day." As I read | :06:12. | :06:17. | |
through my newspapers and blogs and the Tweets this morning, it was | :06:17. | :06:21. | |
just bad news after bad news. The recession was deeper than we | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
thought, growth turned out to be lower than we thought in the second | :06:25. | :06:30. | |
quarter of this year. Italy has defaulted, not defaulted, Italy has | :06:30. | :06:34. | |
had a downgrade a second time. The Greeks are going on strike. Even | :06:34. | :06:38. | |
Tescos of all things has made a loss for the first, or a drop in | :06:38. | :06:48. | |
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sales for the first time in 20 years. That's a difficulty. | :06:51. | :06:57. | |
wonders how much optimism he can prevent when around him it looks | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
pessimistic. The Treasury hold the view the more serious it gets the | :07:00. | :07:07. | |
more it focuses the minds of the French and Germans on resolving the | :07:07. | :07:13. | |
Greek crisis. That requires nerves of steels, which circumstances | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
outside make difficult. Circumstances bond his control. The | :07:16. | :07:20. | |
markets take a further tumble because the eurozone leaders are | :07:20. | :07:24. | |
yet to show something called leadership. The Belgium bank goes | :07:24. | :07:28. | |
belly-up. Everything becomes worse news. There's nothing a British | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
Prime Minister, or very little a British Prime Minister can do. | :07:31. | :07:34. | |
is the difficulty. That is his opportunity today. He can say, look | :07:34. | :07:42. | |
I'm not veering off a debt reduction plan, we are a safe port | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
in the storm. He's going to say, you can't feel it yet, you can't | :07:46. | :07:49. | |
even really see it yet, but our policy is working and will be | :07:49. | :07:53. | |
working. In other words, all this rhetoric about the ship coming out | :07:53. | :07:58. | |
of the storm will be heavily promoted today. I am not sure | :07:58. | :08:03. | |
whether the public will see eye-to- eye with that. Should he, would he, | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
will he mention Ed Miliband? Interesting. I think he may be | :08:06. | :08:12. | |
tempted to ignore him. If I was him I was would nor him. He may have a | :08:12. | :08:17. | |
few cat jokes. Not more cat jokes. I understand there may be a cat | :08:17. | :08:22. | |
reference in one of the songs after he walks off the stage. Can we | :08:22. | :08:26. | |
agree he will not say this year Britain is out of the danger zone? | :08:26. | :08:30. | |
Today it is difficult to make such a statement. Thank you. | :08:30. | :08:34. | |
Getting our coverage of the David Cameron conference speech of 2011, | :08:34. | :08:38. | |
to the party faithful, it is coming up now, in froblly just over 0 | :08:38. | :08:43. | |
minutes. He -- probably just over 20 minutes. He is probably running | :08:43. | :08:48. | |
late. Party leaders generally do. Some things are left behind in | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
Westminster. There are some treasured possessions we bring with | :08:52. | :08:56. | |
us. Andrew packs his cuddly toys, his iPad and I have my special | :08:56. | :09:02. | |
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With me I've two Conservative MPs who I know are busy as we speak. | :10:55. | :10:59. | |
Bernard Jenkins and Sajid Javid. Starting you, have the big issues | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
been addressed? It has been -- there is something unreal about | :11:02. | :11:08. | |
this conference. There is a serious mood. Nobody has wanted to | :11:08. | :11:11. | |
undermine David Cameron. There is a serious atmosphere because we know | :11:11. | :11:16. | |
there is a big crisis outside. The drinks flow at the conference and | :11:16. | :11:21. | |
the band plays, but there is a sense that the depth is beginning | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
to slope a bit because we are facing challenges in the eurozone | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
crisis. Do you think they have been properly addressed by the | :11:28. | :11:31. | |
leadership? Well, there is a sense that the leadership are trying to | :11:31. | :11:35. | |
push the consequences of this into the future. We've an economic | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
problem. We've a competitiveness problem now. If the eurozone are | :11:39. | :11:42. | |
going to make very big changes to the way the European Union operates, | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
that is the moment we need to address the regulation that is | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
piling on from Europe and I don't think we can push this forward. | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
This is happening now. I'm afraid this crisis is not going to fit | :11:54. | :11:58. | |
into a coalition programme that waits until 2015, which seems to be | :11:58. | :12:02. | |
what William Hague was saying this morning. Do you agree with how that | :12:02. | :12:08. | |
is characterised that now is the time to act. I am not sure what | :12:08. | :12:14. | |
Bernard suggests the Government does. Should there be something to | :12:14. | :12:18. | |
reement -- pre-empt Greece from defaulting? Bernard is right in the | :12:18. | :12:24. | |
sense it has been a very mature conference. It has been focused on | :12:24. | :12:27. | |
by George Osborne and by the Prime Minister in his speech, probably in | :12:27. | :12:33. | |
a moment, there is no alternative to plan A. We've heard that. That | :12:33. | :12:38. | |
has been their strategy. What about what Bernard Jenkins is saying? | :12:38. | :12:43. | |
Should something be down now in terms of action? I am not sure | :12:43. | :12:49. | |
there is much more we can do. The euro is not a problem of our doing. | :12:49. | :12:53. | |
We are glad the Government has changed 18 months ago or we could | :12:53. | :12:59. | |
have been in a similar situation to Italy or Greece ourselves. What can | :12:59. | :13:04. | |
be done? What I'm saying is that the eurozone crisis is leading to a | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
fundamental change in the nature of the European Union. There is talk | :13:08. | :13:12. | |
of a treaty of the 17, and they are going to do a treaty of the Euro- | :13:12. | :13:17. | |
states, on their own, to do fiscal union, not requiring the signature | :13:17. | :13:20. | |
of any other member-state. It could take years? The problem is these | :13:20. | :13:25. | |
changes will be made very quickly f they are made. They profoundly | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
change the European Union. And ministers themselves are saying | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
this is going to change the way the European Union operates. Is that a | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
time for a referendum? No. I'm saying what the Government will | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
need to address is how to protect British national interests in this | :13:39. | :13:45. | |
eurozone, in the centre of the Euro-. Have you any -- in the senl | :13:45. | :13:50. | |
centre of the eurozone. Have you any suggestions for them? If the | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
Liberal Democrats paralyse them on this, we say, go ahead, make our | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
day, if you want to bring the Government down on this, this is | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
vital for our competitiveness to be able to get control. When we talk | :14:01. | :14:04. | |
about the Liberal Democrats, we also have to recognise that they | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
did not win a majority. We needed to form a coalition. There was no | :14:07. | :14:11. | |
other way around that. The Liberal Democrats have done the country a | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
huge service in coming to that coalition and addressing the bigish | :14:14. | :14:18. | |
issue of the day which was the debt and the deficit. Bernard would | :14:18. | :14:25. | |
agree with me, had we not got that under control our situation would | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
be like some of our European partners. They could be the block, | :14:29. | :14:34. | |
if you like on any negotiation, opportunity that comes up? I don't | :14:34. | :14:37. | |
think a block is a right word for it. We are in a koolgsz. The | :14:37. | :14:42. | |
situation is what it -- coalition. The situation is what it is. If an | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
opportunity arises for Britain to enter into a negotiation, of course | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
we should take advantage of that. We should keep our pencil sharpened. | :14:49. | :14:54. | |
Right here and now, what we need to assure the markets is we have a | :14:54. | :14:59. | |
strategy that works. The moment George Osborne sat down after his | :14:59. | :15:05. | |
speech, our rating was reaffirmed. We saw what happened in Italy. They | :15:05. | :15:10. | |
got downgraded by S and P and Moody's today. What about the Human | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
Rights Act? Nick Clegg made it clear, it is here to stay. What do | :15:13. | :15:17. | |
you think of that? On that issue Nick Clegg is wrong. We made it | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
clear in our manifesto that we would like to see a British Bill of | :15:21. | :15:25. | |
Rights which balances rights and responsibilities. That is very | :15:25. | :15:28. | |
important. What should the Government do to counter that from | :15:28. | :15:33. | |
Nick Clegg, if that is the right thing to do in your view? | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
The British Bill of Rights, you don't get the feeling it will | :15:36. | :15:46. | |
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There is a sense that the absolutely overbearing weight of EU | :15:48. | :15:52. | |
law and human rights law is paralysing the government. We have | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
put this in our select committee report, no one has challenged it. | :15:55. | :15:59. | |
There is a real problem about making government work in this | :15:59. | :16:02. | |
over-regulated environment, and getting the economy competitive. | :16:02. | :16:06. | |
Are we going to be told we have to wait until 2015 before we can do | :16:06. | :16:11. | |
anything about this? I thank that is a problem. I think the Liberal | :16:11. | :16:15. | |
Democrats should be challenged on this -- I think that is a problem. | :16:15. | :16:18. | |
If they want to bring down the coalition... They haven't really | :16:19. | :16:25. | |
said that, they are very tied him. Does your concern reflect the Tory | :16:25. | :16:30. | |
backbenchers? -- tied in. coalition agreement was written 18 | :16:30. | :16:34. | |
months ago, events have overtaken the coalition agreement. We cannot | :16:34. | :16:37. | |
go on living in the world as it was then, we have to tackle the | :16:37. | :16:40. | |
challenges now, or the whole government will become more | :16:40. | :16:44. | |
unpopular. How are the backbenchers feeling? Most backbenchers would | :16:44. | :16:50. | |
agree with what George Osborne... That is fine but are they happy? Do | :16:50. | :16:53. | |
they feel they are getting the government they want? By and large, | :16:53. | :16:58. | |
people accept that because of the coalition, there are naturally | :16:58. | :17:02. | |
going to be constraints. They are not happy, really? We accept that. | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
I would have loved to have seen an out right Conservative victory, we | :17:06. | :17:10. | |
didn't get it so we have frustrations like the Human Rights | :17:10. | :17:13. | |
Act. If we can find ways to deal with that within the constraints of | :17:13. | :17:18. | |
the coalition, such as what Theresa May said yesterday, that is the way | :17:18. | :17:23. | |
to go for it. This is a Midge Ure conversation, there is not going to | :17:23. | :17:28. | |
be some massive rebellion instantly -- this is a mature conversation. | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
We have seen it going on in the conference will between Ken Clarke | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
and Theresa May. I think we have got to have these conversations | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
because we have to address the national interest. The coalition | :17:39. | :17:42. | |
has to address the national interest. Somebody said to me, | :17:42. | :17:48. | |
hasn't it been a dull and boring confidence -- conference? I said, | :17:48. | :17:50. | |
if you mean there hasn't been infighting and briefings against | :17:50. | :17:55. | |
each other, then it has been. could have been handing out this | :17:55. | :18:01. | |
leaflet. Are you worried? They would say that, wouldn't they. | :18:01. | :18:06. | |
suppose so. You're not worried they are going off to UKIP. At salute | :18:06. | :18:14. | |
will not. Pick a badge. I love deficit reduction -- absolutely not. | :18:14. | :18:24. | |
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He had first pick. I love the 50p tax rate? As a former banker, I | :18:25. | :18:31. | |
love banking reform. Wear them with pride. Thank you very much. | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
Thanks, de Gaulle is filling up, there are still plenty of seats in | :18:35. | :18:43. | |
what the Americans call the bleachers -- the hall is filling up. | :18:43. | :18:48. | |
If not a huge crowd. The bottom of the hall is full, but lots of spare | :18:48. | :18:53. | |
seats at the back. It is a big centre in Manchester kids, but | :18:53. | :18:58. | |
Labour filled it be conference in Liverpool last week. We will see | :18:58. | :19:02. | |
whether the Tories do the same. If you are sitting in your hotel room | :19:02. | :19:06. | |
in Manchester watching this, part of the delegation, you can come, | :19:06. | :19:10. | |
plenty of time. We have been told that the Prime Minister will now | :19:10. | :19:15. | |
not be on his feet before 4:40pm. But we will still be here the | :19:15. | :19:22. | |
moment he does -- to 40 pm. Graham Brady is the chairman of the 1922 | :19:22. | :19:28. | |
Committee of backbench Conservative MPs, a kind of shop steward for the | :19:28. | :19:33. | |
backbenchers. I am a trade union leader. You look and sound like one, | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
I am not surprised. Why haven't your members been allowed to spend | :19:37. | :19:42. | |
more time discussing Europe this week? When the crisis over the euro | :19:42. | :19:49. | |
has been heading for climax? heard some of the members of the | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
1922 committee discussing just that. Why hasn't the conference been | :19:52. | :19:59. | |
doing it? I think conference programmes are over managed. Not a | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
little over manage, they are totally managed. There is no scope | :20:03. | :20:08. | |
for any measure of rebellion at this conference. I don't think it | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
is a matter of rebellion but I would like to see more debate in | :20:11. | :20:18. | |
party conferences, I would like to see us get back to balloted motions. | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
To be dangerous, isn't it? Sometimes you have to live | :20:22. | :20:25. | |
dangerously. You would like to go back to the days when we had | :20:25. | :20:29. | |
debates, motions, speakers for and against, and at the end, people | :20:29. | :20:35. | |
could vote. And although the conference, unlike Labour, doesn't | :20:35. | :20:40. | |
bind the Tory leadership, it would give you a good indication of where | :20:40. | :20:47. | |
the heart of the party was. I think debate is a good thing. Especially | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
so in these very difficult times we are facing. We are in | :20:51. | :20:55. | |
unprecedentedly bad economic circumstances. I think it is a good | :20:55. | :20:59. | |
thing that we hear different views about how we work our way out of it. | :20:59. | :21:04. | |
Why did you get rid of the debates? I didn't. Not you personally, the | :21:04. | :21:09. | |
party. Both the Labour Party and Conservative Party have been moving | :21:09. | :21:13. | |
to more managed conferences, and it is clearly because the party | :21:13. | :21:16. | |
hierarchies are concerned about what you and your colleagues do | :21:16. | :21:22. | |
when there is some genuine open debate. Which means it is hard for | :21:22. | :21:26. | |
you to complain when we don't cover the events going on in the all | :21:26. | :21:29. | |
enough, because frankly, what is going on in the ball these days is | :21:29. | :21:34. | |
either irrelevant, boring or both. Some of it is very exciting and | :21:34. | :21:39. | |
very interesting. As a general rule and principle, more debate in | :21:39. | :21:44. | |
politics, treating the public as intelligent people who can watch | :21:44. | :21:48. | |
disagreements and discussions between politicians without | :21:48. | :21:51. | |
automatically thinking there is some great split in a party. I | :21:51. | :21:56. | |
think we could do more of that. What is the mood among Conservative | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
backbenchers as regards their attitude towards the government, | :21:59. | :22:04. | |
and the influence that the Lib Dems have on this government? I think | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
there is a degree of acceptance of something which is inevitable. | :22:08. | :22:11. | |
There was a decision which was taken, a series of decisions taken | :22:11. | :22:16. | |
by the electorate. We ended up with a certain parliamentary arithmetic, | :22:16. | :22:19. | |
it wasn't possible to form a majority government on our own. We | :22:19. | :22:24. | |
would prefer to have done so. We are nonetheless, managing to | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
function as a government, with a degree of cohesion, especially | :22:27. | :22:32. | |
about the key issue of reducing the deficit, and working towards the | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
point where we will start to play down the national debt. Is there a | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
mood on the Conservative backbenches to be more robust on | :22:39. | :22:44. | |
Europe? I think the European picture is moving so rapidly and | :22:44. | :22:49. | |
changing so rapidly, it is very difficult to discern where people | :22:49. | :22:54. | |
are. This is one of the features of this conference, that people inside | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
this conference have been looking out at events, looking at the | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
markets, looking at what is going on in Greece, perhaps just as much | :23:02. | :23:06. | |
as the outside has been wanting to look in at what we are doing here. | :23:06. | :23:13. | |
Is there a mood for the government to be more robust on tax cuts? | :23:13. | :23:17. | |
think there is a question of reality. We are in this extremely | :23:17. | :23:20. | |
difficult position, we have to get to the position where we are | :23:20. | :23:24. | |
spending less... I know what the position is, we have heard it | :23:24. | :23:29. | |
endlessly. What I am asking for is the mood on the backbenches, what | :23:29. | :23:33. | |
is their attitude? I think there is a strong view in the Conservative | :23:33. | :23:38. | |
Party, and in the government, that if you can achieve a lower tax, | :23:38. | :23:43. | |
less regulated economy, it is going to be more efficient economy, which | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
will generate more wealth and jobs for the British people. That is | :23:47. | :23:51. | |
something we want to get to. Getting from where we are now to | :23:51. | :23:55. | |
that position is a very serious challenge. Do you want the | :23:55. | :23:58. | |
government to move more quickly on the backbenches will continue at | :23:58. | :24:02. | |
the current pace? I think what the government is starting to talk more | :24:02. | :24:08. | |
about, which is extremely welcome, is tackling the regulatory burden. | :24:08. | :24:13. | |
It is adding to regulations. We are hearing this week from David | :24:13. | :24:17. | |
Cameron and George Osborne, a real commitment to tackling the | :24:17. | :24:20. | |
regulatory burden, and that is something which is going to be | :24:20. | :24:24. | |
vital in the coming years. That is the other thing we can do. We have | :24:24. | :24:28. | |
had massive monetary stimulus and fiscal stimulus over the years, and | :24:29. | :24:32. | |
we are where we are. We can start to really drive down the cost on | :24:32. | :24:36. | |
business. What is the point of a trade union leader that has | :24:36. | :24:40. | |
absolutely no disagreement with the bosses? They used to say the secret | :24:41. | :24:46. | |
weapon of the Conservative Party was loyal to. The secret weapon of | :24:46. | :24:48. | |
the 1922 Committee is that generally, the conversations I have | :24:48. | :24:52. | |
with the Prime Minister are better conducted in private. What do you | :24:52. | :24:55. | |
tell the Prime Minister in private that you're not telling us on air? | :24:55. | :24:59. | |
That would defeat the object, wouldn't it? A very good attempt. | :24:59. | :25:03. | |
You're not going to tell us? course I am not going to Italy | :25:03. | :25:08. | |
about the private conversations with David Cameron. -- not going to | :25:08. | :25:16. | |
It causes considerable uncertainty, for a number of different parts of | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
the country. We are still out the review from Wales and Scotland. It | :25:21. | :25:26. | |
is a pretty radical set of changes. In some places, it creates very | :25:26. | :25:34. | |
profound differences. We can see David Cameron the coming out of the | :25:34. | :25:41. | |
hotel, here in Manchester. It is the only hotel which is behind what | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
we call the ring of steel in this party conferences, the security | :25:44. | :25:49. | |
perimeter, which means once you get through that, you can walk between | :25:49. | :25:53. | |
the hotel and conference centre. We are in this massive conference | :25:53. | :25:56. | |
centre, the Prime Minister and his wife are heading towards it. It | :25:56. | :26:02. | |
used to be an old Victorian railway station. The platforms and the | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
rails have long gone and it is a very state-of- the-art conference | :26:06. | :26:13. | |
centre. There is something of a piazza, the Prime Minister makes | :26:13. | :26:18. | |
his way here and is about to head into the Manchester convention | :26:18. | :26:22. | |
centre. What do you want to hear from the Prime Minister this | :26:22. | :26:27. | |
afternoon? What we will hear from the Prime | :26:27. | :26:32. | |
Minister... I really want to know what you want to hear from him. | :26:32. | :26:37. | |
What I want to hear will be what we pretty much will here, a realistic | :26:37. | :26:41. | |
assessment of the massive challenges that face the country, | :26:41. | :26:46. | |
face the government, faced the global economy, and that is very | :26:46. | :26:50. | |
important, I think people are starting to take that on board. | :26:50. | :26:54. | |
Then I want to see a really sharp focus on what we can do. There are | :26:54. | :26:59. | |
things we can't easily do, to improve the economic situation. The | :26:59. | :27:03. | |
things we can do, not easily, not simply, is to start driving down | :27:03. | :27:10. | |
the cost burden on business, and I think that is vital. Do you welcome | :27:10. | :27:16. | |
chance lost on's remarks, has that maybe this -- Chancellor Osborne's | :27:16. | :27:21. | |
remarks that the increasing has maybe gone too far. I think George | :27:21. | :27:24. | |
Osborne was right to make sure we would not fix a carbon price higher | :27:24. | :27:30. | |
than our competitors. That is the kind of thinking we need to move to. | :27:30. | :27:35. | |
The principal preoccupation of the government is growth. We need to | :27:35. | :27:42. | |
make life better and easier for British businesses. What we are | :27:42. | :27:46. | |
hearing is that the Conservative press office, which has uncovered | :27:46. | :27:50. | |
itself in glory in the past 24 hours, is saying the Prime Minister | :27:50. | :27:55. | |
might not be speaking until about six minutes to three, which would | :27:55. | :28:00. | |
be very late indeed. I have no idea why it has to be that late. It has | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
been in the calendar for almost a year. Although there has been last- | :28:03. | :28:07. | |
minute drafting and refinancing of some of his remarks about credit | :28:07. | :28:13. | |
cards, it does not explain why he is half-an-hour late. Maybe he will | :28:13. | :28:19. | |
be more on time than before, than we are briefed. You might have to | :28:19. | :28:22. | |
fight George Osborne for a seat with his Boundary Commission change, | :28:22. | :28:28. | |
is that right? No, it is not right. -- with this Boundary Commission | :28:28. | :28:34. | |
changed. You must never believe what you read in the press. After | :28:34. | :28:38. | |
the wrong steel on credit cards, you are right for they don't cross | :28:38. | :28:42. | |
the boundary between Greater Manchester... Is your seat safe? | :28:42. | :28:47. | |
would never call a seat safe. mean from the boundary changes. | :28:47. | :28:55. | |
There will be a sensible seat under the proposals. What is it like | :28:55. | :28:59. | |
running the 1922 Committee? Is it like herding cats? I thought you | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
weren't going to mention cats. It is fair to say that Conservative | :29:03. | :29:07. | |
Members of Parliament are independent people and they do not | :29:07. | :29:11. | |
always have an entirely uniform view. Thank you for joining us. We | :29:11. | :29:16. | |
are going to move on. It has been quite a 12 months for David Cameron. | :29:16. | :29:20. | |
A global economic crisis, riots on the streets of English cities, an | :29:20. | :29:24. | |
uprising in the Arab world which led to the first military adventure | :29:24. | :29:30. | |
of his premiership. Here is our rookie reporter, Michael Portillo, | :29:30. | :29:40. | |
:29:40. | :29:50. | ||
David Cameron twos to the Conservative Party Conference with | :29:50. | :29:54. | |
feathers in his -- goes to the Conservative Party Conference with | :29:54. | :29:59. | |
feathers in his hat. The local election results were good and he's | :29:59. | :30:04. | |
been vindicated on Libya. All that counts for very little. There's | :30:04. | :30:10. | |
only one thing that really matters - the economy, stupid! Today is the | :30:10. | :30:19. | |
day when Britain steps back from the brink, when we confront the | :30:19. | :30:24. | |
bills from a decade of debt. On day one of the coalition, the | :30:24. | :30:27. | |
Government's commitment to bring down the deficit reassured the | :30:28. | :30:34. | |
markets. Unlike America, Britain still has a triple-A credit rating. | :30:34. | :30:37. | |
Unlike Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain, our Government can still | :30:37. | :30:44. | |
borrow cheap. The economy has stalled. The | :30:44. | :30:48. | |
Chancellor of the Exchequer cannot simply blame the weather. We're not | :30:48. | :30:54. | |
going to be blown off course. The weather had a huge effect. | :30:54. | :31:02. | |
George Osborne adopted a plan B the markets would wobble. Living | :31:02. | :31:06. | |
standards are sliding. Without economic growth, the deficit won't | :31:06. | :31:11. | |
shrink. It's difficult to see what he'll have to offer the voters at | :31:11. | :31:17. | |
the next election for all their pain. | :31:17. | :31:25. | |
This summer saw the worst bout of rioting for a generation. Alastair | :31:25. | :31:30. | |
Campbell recognised he needed to -- David Cameron recognised he needed | :31:30. | :31:34. | |
to sound tough. There are pockets of our society which are not just | :31:34. | :31:41. | |
broken, but frankly sick. If he sounded tough at home he was also | :31:41. | :31:47. | |
tough with Libya. Who could have imagined just 1 months ago that a | :31:47. | :31:51. | |
British Prime Minister would -- 12 months ago that a British Prime | :31:51. | :31:56. | |
Minister would permit forces so soon after Iraq and Afghanistan. | :31:56. | :32:00. | |
There is a clear and unequivocal basis for the deployment of | :32:00. | :32:06. | |
military forces and assets. David Cameron's judgment does | :32:06. | :32:11. | |
sometimes fail him. He was wrong- footed over the hacking scandal and | :32:11. | :32:16. | |
his decision to hire as his communications director the former | :32:16. | :32:22. | |
News of the World editor, Andy Coulson. With 20/20 hind site and | :32:22. | :32:26. | |
all that has followed I would not have offered him the job and I | :32:26. | :32:30. | |
suspect he would not have taken it. You don't make decisions in | :32:30. | :32:33. | |
hindsight, you make them in the present. You live and you learn, | :32:34. | :32:43. | |
and believe you me, I have learnt. A Prime Minister has had to wheel | :32:43. | :32:47. | |
and deal to meet the competing demands of Liberal Democrats and | :32:47. | :32:51. | |
Tories within the coalition. The Government sometimes appears to be | :32:51. | :32:55. | |
spinning around rather than moving forward. Its response to the Arab | :32:56. | :33:00. | |
Spring has been confused. The defence cuts are a mess. In an | :33:01. | :33:05. | |
ominous echo of the past, Euro- sceptic Tory backbenchers threaten | :33:05. | :33:08. | |
revolt and put strain on the coalition. The Liberal Democrats | :33:08. | :33:12. | |
have been responsible for some of the most dramatic U-turns. | :33:12. | :33:17. | |
propose to take the opportunity of a natural break in the passage of | :33:17. | :33:23. | |
the bill to pause, to listen and to engage. The last 12 months have | :33:23. | :33:27. | |
been really testing. David Cameron always looks effortlessly Prime | :33:27. | :33:31. | |
Ministerial. If Ed Miliband continues to lead | :33:31. | :33:38. | |
Labour, and continues to be disliked and thought incredible, | :33:38. | :33:44. | |
then David Cameron's fitness for office may prove decisive. | :33:44. | :33:48. | |
Cameron's recipe to gain power was to move the Conservatives to the | :33:48. | :33:52. | |
soft-centre of British politics, hugging the NHS and embracing | :33:52. | :33:56. | |
climate change. In office, he's moved away from the middle-ground. | :33:56. | :34:00. | |
That doesn't mean he'll lose the next general election. Margaret | :34:01. | :34:05. | |
Thatcher was highly unpopular. Many of her decisions were hated, but | :34:05. | :34:10. | |
she never lost a general election. In that, as in so many other ways, | :34:10. | :34:18. | |
she may be David Cameron's model. Michael Portillo there, looking at | :34:18. | :34:22. | |
David Cameron's year. It is a little empty out here in the hall | :34:22. | :34:26. | |
because everybody has gone inside, except these three delegates we | :34:26. | :34:36. | |
:34:36. | :34:37. | ||
have kept behind until the speech starts. With us Kirsty Roberts, and | :34:37. | :34:46. | |
Roche and Mr Decisionson. We've had people -- and Mr DixoN. People have | :34:46. | :34:52. | |
said it is stage-managed. I am not sure if there is the party faithful | :34:52. | :34:57. | |
and the same response as in the past. We are now in Government and | :34:57. | :35:00. | |
it is a different situation. Everybody is looking forward the | :35:00. | :35:03. | |
future. I feel there are far more younger women being attracted | :35:03. | :35:08. | |
towards the party. Despite the fact that the leadership admits they | :35:08. | :35:10. | |
have had a problem with women voters and the poll would indicate | :35:10. | :35:14. | |
that as well. We are doing our best to address that. It is very | :35:14. | :35:17. | |
important to have a cross- representation in any party in | :35:17. | :35:21. | |
order to be able to represent the community as a whole. Obviously, | :35:21. | :35:27. | |
trying tory tract younger women into politics is -- trying to | :35:27. | :35:32. | |
attract younger women into politics is the thing. I am a councillor and | :35:32. | :35:35. | |
have a young family. It is important that people like us, with | :35:35. | :35:39. | |
our own reflections and we bring those to politics, which is, I | :35:39. | :35:44. | |
think, what some of my colleagues are experiencing. On that basis, | :35:44. | :35:50. | |
Kirsty, you are an IT contractor. You are out there in the world of | :35:50. | :35:55. | |
business, and the message that they are sending out, it is about the | :35:55. | :36:00. | |
future. Is the future bleak, or is it sunny uplands? I think what | :36:00. | :36:06. | |
we're going to see, Jo, is a message of, we need some hope. | :36:06. | :36:11. | |
Everyone knows we are in a tough situation at the moment. I don't | :36:11. | :36:17. | |
think anyone is dispuelting that. - - disputing that. The messages we | :36:17. | :36:21. | |
are getting through from the Government are certainly they are | :36:21. | :36:31. | |
:36:31. | :36:35. | ||
taking the hard choices. They... If we had not had an emergency Budget, | :36:35. | :36:40. | |
for instance coming in last year, we were in serious danger of going | :36:40. | :36:45. | |
the same way as Greece, Ireland and some of these other economies. So, | :36:45. | :36:50. | |
it's not comfortable for anyone. Frankly, the Government are looking | :36:50. | :36:56. | |
after us. They are looking after our future now. OK, David you left | :36:56. | :37:00. | |
the party in 1997, when Tony Blair came into Government. You didn't go | :37:00. | :37:04. | |
to Labour, but you left the Conservative Party. You came back | :37:04. | :37:10. | |
when David Cameron come in 2005. Has he done a good job? Has he | :37:10. | :37:14. | |
stuck to the sort of manifesto you wanted? I think he's done a | :37:14. | :37:21. | |
fantastic job. I seriously mean that. I've been in the party in and | :37:21. | :37:26. | |
out for 40 years. I think the party is in better heart than I have | :37:26. | :37:30. | |
known it. Why? It's the energy. it younger? It is younger. There | :37:30. | :37:35. | |
are fewer here. You can see empty seats in that auditorium. That is | :37:35. | :37:39. | |
not very encouraging, is it? people who are here are younger and | :37:39. | :37:44. | |
more energy yet tick than ever. I am very impressed with the people I | :37:44. | :37:48. | |
have met here. On that basis, if they are younger, are they | :37:48. | :37:52. | |
representing, as you said, across the society? Is everybody being | :37:52. | :37:55. | |
made to feel welcome in the Conservative Party? We heard | :37:55. | :38:00. | |
earlier from one of the sketchwriters that some of the more | :38:00. | :38:04. | |
traditional Tories are not here in the numbers they used to be. Has | :38:04. | :38:09. | |
the party changed? All parties will change just as society changes. | :38:09. | :38:11. | |
Political parties have to reflect society. Of course there are going | :38:11. | :38:17. | |
to be, as you have rightly said, younger delegates here, possibly | :38:17. | :38:22. | |
for the first time, people who have come to politics through a | :38:22. | :38:26. | |
difficult previous Government and want to sea change. They are here | :38:26. | :38:29. | |
in order to participate rather than perhaps purely vote. They want to | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
engage with the party. They want to take part. It's through that that | :38:33. | :38:37. | |
you will sea change and the whole of society will be represented. | :38:37. | :38:42. | |
What about people struggling with their finances? I am sure you all | :38:42. | :38:47. | |
have experience, yeert yourselves or other people. How dif -- either | :38:47. | :38:52. | |
yourselves or other people? How difficult is it out there? From a | :38:52. | :38:57. | |
personal perspective and talking to my constituents the biggest concern | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
people have is planning for the future. Financial planning? | :39:01. | :39:07. | |
Absolutely. Are they spending? would like to hear something in | :39:07. | :39:13. | |
David Cameron's speech today to tell us what he's going to do. | :39:13. | :39:18. | |
People are very worried about pensions and the general market. | :39:18. | :39:22. | |
But I, as I said previously, I think there's a recognition, | :39:22. | :39:26. | |
certainly from people I speak to that decisions have had to be taken | :39:26. | :39:30. | |
and they were tough decisions. I think the Government, this | :39:30. | :39:34. | |
Government, has the strength and the courage to take those decisions. | :39:34. | :39:38. | |
With the Liberal Democrats, of course. Are you pleased with the | :39:38. | :39:44. | |
coalition? Yes, very pleased. Because they are having a good | :39:44. | :39:48. | |
influence? That is right. My concern right now is housing. I am | :39:48. | :39:53. | |
a landlord. I see house from the inside. I think the Government, | :39:53. | :39:57. | |
aided by the Liberal Democrats, will do something to help first- | :39:57. | :40:01. | |
time buyers, they have to. The market is frozen at the moment. | :40:01. | :40:05. | |
That's what I'm looking for. What about building houses? They have | :40:05. | :40:12. | |
made a play about the planning laws. Do you agree that it is being | :40:12. | :40:15. | |
geared more towards economic development than it is towards | :40:15. | :40:19. | |
saving the countryside? That has been said. The fact is with a | :40:19. | :40:22. | |
frozen housing market, it doesn't matter how many they propose to | :40:22. | :40:26. | |
build. They won't do it because there are no sales at the moment. | :40:26. | :40:32. | |
And that would be key for you? Absolutely. You are a doctor, what | :40:32. | :40:35. | |
did you think about the NHS reforms? Do you think they are in | :40:35. | :40:38. | |
better shape now because of what the Liberal Democrats say they | :40:38. | :40:42. | |
actually did in terms of a pause, do you support them or think they | :40:43. | :40:47. | |
should have gone quicker, faster and, you know, in a way that the | :40:47. | :40:52. | |
Tories initially wanted? I am speaking as an individual rather | :40:52. | :40:57. | |
than as a doctor. Clinical medicine and politics are two separate | :40:57. | :41:01. | |
things. Because there has been a pause, I think the NHS needs to | :41:01. | :41:07. | |
progress. If we don't amove forward.... Do you support GP | :41:07. | :41:10. | |
commissioning? There'll be lots of things which could benefit from | :41:10. | :41:15. | |
that. There'll be a step by step process. Possibly there will be | :41:15. | :41:19. | |
teething troubles in certain areas. Certainly I think the Government | :41:19. | :41:23. | |
have worked with doctors in order to try and get the very best | :41:24. | :41:28. | |
outcomes. So many did not support it. What about some of the | :41:28. | :41:32. | |
patients? Do you think they feel reassured by these savings which | :41:32. | :41:37. | |
have to be made to the budget? Savings will be essential. They are | :41:37. | :41:41. | |
not arbitrary. Unfortunately we have a very, very difficult | :41:41. | :41:49. | |
financial situation, and the NHS is one of the most expensive calls | :41:49. | :41:53. | |
upon finances. Basically I think people are more aware and patients | :41:53. | :41:57. | |
are more aware that money has to come from somewhere. I think, | :41:57. | :42:01. | |
although some people are afraid that commissioning might, this | :42:01. | :42:05. | |
might be a completely new area of commissioning, others feel they may | :42:05. | :42:07. | |
get a better service because they have a personal relationship with | :42:08. | :42:12. | |
their GPs and this could be a very positive outcome. | :42:12. | :42:17. | |
Thank you very much. We will see you after the speech, if there is | :42:17. | :42:22. | |
time for reaction, depending on how long it goes on for. Back to you, | :42:22. | :42:26. | |
Andrew. Thanks, Jo. We are waiting to know | :42:26. | :42:33. | |
when the speech will start. We're told it might start around 2.50pm, | :42:33. | :42:36. | |
which is later than the original start time we were given. I would | :42:36. | :42:40. | |
like to make a point and say they are probably drafting it after all | :42:41. | :42:46. | |
the changes. I don't think they are. I have a copy of the speech here. I | :42:46. | :42:50. | |
could get things underway by reading it out myself, but that is | :42:50. | :42:56. | |
a way to get your P45. Nick Robinson is with us. He and I will | :42:56. | :43:02. | |
talk for Britain.... In alternative words. This week.... You have | :43:02. | :43:05. | |
broken the embargo. They are watching videos in there. They are | :43:05. | :43:08. | |
getting the audience warmed up in time for the speech. Slightly | :43:08. | :43:12. | |
surprised to see a lot of empty seats at the back of this hall? | :43:12. | :43:15. | |
am surprised. Normally there are people who come especially for this | :43:15. | :43:18. | |
day, even if they have not been here for the whole of the | :43:18. | :43:22. | |
conference. Normally they ensure it is full. It is not. It is a sign | :43:22. | :43:25. | |
again of a conference, not just this, all of them actually, it | :43:25. | :43:31. | |
feels like the idea of conferences is almost dying. They are so | :43:31. | :43:34. | |
carefully stage-managed. They so work to ensure that controversy | :43:34. | :43:39. | |
happens in the Fringe and in the bars and not here in front of the | :43:39. | :43:43. | |
television cameras and microphones. It is so expensive for many people | :43:43. | :43:49. | |
to come to city centres, as besides a seaside resort there are fewer | :43:49. | :43:56. | |
and fewer activists and more and more people, whose profession, | :43:56. | :44:02. | |
whether lobbyists or business people come here. The chairman of | :44:02. | :44:12. | |
:44:12. | :44:14. | ||
the 1922 Committee. He wanted debate and then a vote. That is why | :44:14. | :44:19. | |
Graham Brady is chairman of the backbench committee and not in Her | :44:19. | :44:22. | |
Majesty's Government. It is that view that will convince David | :44:22. | :44:27. | |
Cameron he should not become a minister. No party leadership wants | :44:27. | :44:31. | |
to wash its dirty linen in public. Of course there's a consequence to | :44:31. | :44:36. | |
that. If it takes out the activists' involvement, the danger | :44:36. | :44:39. | |
of course is the leadership don't hear the warnings of their own | :44:40. | :44:46. | |
grass roots who are not merely meant to be sent out to knock on | :44:46. | :44:50. | |
doors. They are supposed to be in touch with what the country is | :44:51. | :44:53. | |
thinking. What will the message be from the speech today? The message | :44:53. | :44:59. | |
he wants to have is not this mess they have got into, over whether | :44:59. | :45:02. | |
people should pay off their credit cards or not. The message he wants | :45:02. | :45:07. | |
is, yes, it is bleak out there. I think we'll get a starker warning | :45:07. | :45:11. | |
about how bleak it the economically. We have heard him talking about | :45:12. | :45:16. | |
staring down the barrel of a gun. We heard about him talking about | :45:16. | :45:20. | |
the danger posed be I the world economy. He is likely to make a | :45:20. | :45:24. | |
direction comparison with the banking crisis in 2008, in other | :45:24. | :45:28. | |
words a problem not just for Britain but of a global recession. | :45:28. | :45:32. | |
Labour will leap on that if that is what he does. They have talked | :45:32. | :45:35. | |
about creating a "safe haven" through their policies. Now they | :45:35. | :45:39. | |
are talking about the problem of that world recession, in which | :45:39. | :45:43. | |
Britain might be sucked in. But the other half of his message is meant | :45:43. | :45:47. | |
to be one, not so much of optimism, but a belief, if you like, we can, | :45:47. | :45:56. | |
the country can, I can get you The grim economic backdrop, which | :45:56. | :46:02. | |
has got grimmer, means that there are some things that in more normal | :46:02. | :46:06. | |
times would have been in this speech, that are not in this speech | :46:06. | :46:12. | |
now. All won't be prominent. Just a few weeks ago, I think if we'd had | :46:12. | :46:15. | |
sat here and said, what do you think David Cameron would do, you | :46:15. | :46:20. | |
would say, it has got to be about the riots. It is surely going to be | :46:20. | :46:24. | |
about what happened on the streets of Manchester, of Britain, I should | :46:24. | :46:30. | |
so the streets of England before the Scots correct me. It saves me a | :46:30. | :46:35. | |
lot of e-mails! And yet, I am told there will be not much on it. There | :46:35. | :46:40. | |
will be words about the riots, but it hasn't dominated any of the | :46:40. | :46:43. | |
conferences in the way that all political leaders thought it would. | :46:43. | :46:48. | |
You might have thought the conflict in Libya would be the dominant | :46:48. | :46:54. | |
theme... Which he would regard as a success. A great triumph. It will | :46:54. | :46:59. | |
be mentioned, but it won't dominate. The growing economic storm has | :46:59. | :47:04. | |
taken over from everything. The sense that politicians have, that | :47:04. | :47:07. | |
the public think they are not in touch with their concerns, that the | :47:07. | :47:11. | |
economy is not being run in a way which works for them... Which means, | :47:11. | :47:15. | |
interestingly, we have heard already this week, things that | :47:15. | :47:23. | |
sound very similar to Ed Miliband boss -- et Ed Miliband's and | :47:23. | :47:30. | |
previous stories. Their -- Tories. The hearing the concern that people | :47:30. | :47:34. | |
don't get it, that the rules work in a way that you get something for | :47:34. | :47:37. | |
nothing rather than something for nothing -- rather than something | :47:37. | :47:42. | |
for something. It is going to be uncharted territory for British | :47:43. | :47:48. | |
politics. This coalition has an agreement, which was done on the | :47:48. | :47:51. | |
basis that the worst of the recession and the financial | :47:51. | :47:55. | |
meltdown was over, and this is our rebuilding plan, to take us through | :47:55. | :48:00. | |
to the election. That agreement could well turn out, in large areas, | :48:00. | :48:05. | |
to be irrelevant, if we are just heading into another financial | :48:05. | :48:10. | |
meltdown. It doesn't give you the prescription. In a sense, let's | :48:10. | :48:16. | |
think of the parallel with its 2008. Alistair Darling could not say, | :48:16. | :48:21. | |
what does it say on a manifesto about this? They literally had to | :48:21. | :48:25. | |
make it up as they went along. You have to gather your experts in a | :48:25. | :48:30. | |
room and say, what do we do now? The advantage, if there was one, of | :48:30. | :48:35. | |
the crisis in 2008, many of the officials around the Prime Minister | :48:35. | :48:39. | |
and Chancellor were the officials who were around Gordon Brown and | :48:39. | :48:43. | |
Alistair Darling, so they have some knowledge about what to do about a | :48:43. | :48:49. | |
banking crisis. Last night, the Ten O'Clock News lead on this crisis in | :48:49. | :48:54. | |
a French and Belgian bank, a vast problem for that bank. But the | :48:54. | :48:58. | |
Chancellor was about this conference, about the hotel, | :48:58. | :49:03. | |
looking... Relaxed isn't the right word, but not panicky. It's when I | :49:03. | :49:08. | |
suggested to him, why not, people know what to do. In other words, | :49:08. | :49:13. | |
there is at least some sort of guide. There is some sort of | :49:13. | :49:19. | |
blueprint. That is what happened with the Belgian bank? Absolutely. | :49:19. | :49:24. | |
If it is a wider economic crisis, there is no script at all. The | :49:24. | :49:29. | |
coalition would have to gather and work out what it will do, and what | :49:29. | :49:32. | |
the Chancellor may want them to do, and whether the Liberal Democrats | :49:32. | :49:37. | |
will sign up to it. The other thing I have noticed, they did have a | :49:37. | :49:41. | |
plan whereby they thought that the political cycle and economic cycle | :49:41. | :49:46. | |
would go in tandem. That they got elected in 2010, they were planning | :49:46. | :49:50. | |
for a full five-year parliament, they would get rid of the pain in | :49:50. | :49:53. | |
the first years, then the growth would come back, living standards | :49:53. | :49:57. | |
would start to rise, there maybe a bit of a windfall if we sell back | :49:57. | :50:01. | |
the banks, and we are off to the races in 2015. I think we are | :50:01. | :50:09. | |
ripping that up now. Latest figures still show the economy growing... | :50:09. | :50:15. | |
Growing less. If you now take the last nine months. And you add them | :50:15. | :50:20. | |
together, you have zero growth. My point was, he will say, don't talk | :50:20. | :50:25. | |
us into a recession, we have to be careful that we did say it has | :50:25. | :50:29. | |
happened yet. It is deeply grim out there but we don't know the | :50:29. | :50:34. | |
consequences for world economic growth. You are right, the politics | :50:34. | :50:39. | |
was assumed to be, rather like Margaret Thatcher's first term, | :50:39. | :50:44. | |
very tough, the lady is not for turning was the big speech in 1981. | :50:44. | :50:49. | |
She contradicted the criticism of 364 economists who wrote to the | :50:49. | :50:53. | |
papers, then she got re-elected. Some people say Labour was divided, | :50:53. | :50:58. | |
some people say there was the Falklands factor. Another thing, | :50:58. | :51:02. | |
people's living standards were improving. Interest rates were | :51:02. | :51:06. | |
plummeting. She went on to win that election. The Tories who grew up in | :51:06. | :51:11. | |
that era, they thought, it is going to be grim, but we will get out of | :51:11. | :51:16. | |
it. In a nutshell, the fear is, we thought we had a lot of time but if | :51:16. | :51:19. | |
it is as bad and going to get worse, because of events in Europe, we | :51:19. | :51:24. | |
might be running out of time, even at this early stage. I think that | :51:24. | :51:26. | |
is right, although I don't think I'm being too generous to them to | :51:27. | :51:31. | |
say, if we are in a world economic recession, their thirst for will be, | :51:31. | :51:40. | |
what on earth do we do -- their first thought. The whole political | :51:40. | :51:45. | |
terms of trade change, it does not automatically fall into Labour's | :51:45. | :51:50. | |
lap if we end up in a real crisis. Arguably, the opposite. Governments | :51:50. | :51:56. | |
often say, and there was some truth for Gordon Brown in 2008-2009, that | :51:56. | :52:01. | |
in a moment of crisis, the country looks for leadership, it looks to | :52:01. | :52:05. | |
its existing leaders, and is tempted -- tempted to hold on to | :52:05. | :52:10. | |
those for fear of something worse for that period. It doesn't | :52:10. | :52:13. | |
necessarily help Labour at that stage. The key is whether people | :52:13. | :52:22. | |
think the Labour Party's analysis that the government contributed to | :52:22. | :52:26. | |
this crisis is right, and whether they think the government gains any | :52:26. | :52:33. | |
credit or could have "a UN something worse. Were speculating | :52:33. | :52:37. | |
about the political consequences of something in four years' time, but | :52:37. | :52:40. | |
the Prime Minister does not know what is going out and in four days' | :52:40. | :52:45. | |
time. The big difference between -- with 2008, Britain was at the | :52:45. | :52:50. | |
centre of that storm. It was a banking crisis, big banks in London. | :52:50. | :52:54. | |
Gordon Brown had an advantage, he was the chair of the G20, and he | :52:54. | :53:00. | |
used it. He used it rather brilliantly. Even his critics would | :53:00. | :53:03. | |
argue that would delight his policies or not, his ability to | :53:03. | :53:06. | |
pull people together in that G20 conference in London was something | :53:06. | :53:11. | |
he did very well. David Cameron, in that sense, and George Osborne, | :53:11. | :53:16. | |
much more spectators. It is a crisis about the eurozone and not | :53:16. | :53:20. | |
the British banks. They can push and argue with their colleagues, | :53:20. | :53:24. | |
they can't actually act. The G20 that the Prime Minister will go to, | :53:24. | :53:31. | |
the equivalent of the one in London, is in Cannes in the beginning of | :53:31. | :53:36. | |
November and I think provided the markets don't cause some horror, | :53:36. | :53:40. | |
that will be a key date. Chancellor has said they have to | :53:40. | :53:44. | |
have their ducks in a row by them. Absolutely. What was striking last | :53:44. | :53:48. | |
night, you get this very bad economic news, crashing markets in | :53:48. | :53:51. | |
Britain and on Wall Street, then you get a European Commissioner | :53:51. | :53:55. | |
implying that a plan is being developed. Up pops Wall Street | :53:55. | :53:59. | |
again, it was too late for the British stock market, but Wall | :53:59. | :54:06. | |
Street bounced up again, as if, somebody is in charge, good. That | :54:06. | :54:11. | |
is how volatile markets are at the moment. And the economic backdrop | :54:11. | :54:14. | |
against it put -- against which people are having to make decisions. | :54:15. | :54:18. | |
They are showing a video about the Prime Minister going into hospitals | :54:18. | :54:22. | |
and so on, which I suspect is the final build-up. We had a lot of | :54:22. | :54:25. | |
young people on the stage, I guess that is to compensate for the fact | :54:25. | :54:30. | |
there are not a lot of young people in the audience. And I think he | :54:30. | :54:34. | |
will say his great passion is education. There are more young | :54:34. | :54:40. | |
people at this conference than they used to be at Tory conferences -- | :54:40. | :54:45. | |
than that there used to be. It is quite a long speech, it could be up | :54:45. | :54:50. | |
to an hour. Why do they feel the need to speak for so long? I was | :54:50. | :54:54. | |
speaking to a speech writer last night. There are bits of the speech | :54:54. | :54:57. | |
that are not very important for people in the hall, sometimes not | :54:57. | :55:01. | |
important for journalists or a lot of the audience watching, but they | :55:01. | :55:05. | |
have a value. They are sending a message, I was told, to officials | :55:05. | :55:09. | |
in Whitehall, that the Prime Minister cares about this. Let's | :55:09. | :55:13. | |
take an example, the big society. If that phrase were not in this | :55:13. | :55:16. | |
speech, the message goes around that he doesn't care about it any | :55:16. | :55:22. | |
more. So you are in a meeting as an official, and they say, we don't | :55:22. | :55:25. | |
need to bother, it wasn't in the speech. They go through things and | :55:25. | :55:30. | |
say, we must have a section. It works diplomatically. If there are | :55:30. | :55:33. | |
parts of the world that a Prime Minister doesn't mention, sometimes | :55:33. | :55:37. | |
the diplomatic immunity will say, what is going on, we thought your | :55:37. | :55:41. | |
guide cared. There is a function, a bit like the state of the Union | :55:41. | :55:46. | |
address. You have to show, this is what I care about, these are my | :55:46. | :55:54. | |
priorities. To say, the boss said it matters, so it does. They are | :55:54. | :55:58. | |
still watching a video, we are still waiting for the Prime | :55:58. | :56:01. | |
Minister, I am puzzled as to why this should run it so late. I have | :56:01. | :56:07. | |
no idea. We can joke about the redrafting, but they got that... | :56:07. | :56:14. | |
was a word. It can't have taken that long. When we talk about | :56:14. | :56:18. | |
rewriting, it did not involve any rewriting, it took a decision. Did | :56:18. | :56:23. | |
they say, as they were, you guys have all gone mad, you are | :56:23. | :56:26. | |
reporting that we want people to pay off their credit cards and that | :56:26. | :56:29. | |
is not what we want. Or did they acknowledge that wasn't just a view | :56:29. | :56:35. | |
taken by the media, but a view resonating in large parts of the | :56:35. | :56:39. | |
country, and then saying, to show you that is not what we meant, we | :56:39. | :56:45. | |
are changing the word. They know they are going to take a hit, he | :56:45. | :56:50. | |
nobody likes changing words in politics, but they decided to. We | :56:50. | :56:55. | |
can't know whether some event has happened but he feels he needs to | :56:55. | :57:01. | |
refer to, or argue about. It is quite a good -- big change, from | :57:01. | :57:11. | |
:57:11. | :57:17. | ||
I think he is unlikely to mention Ed Miliband. They always say the | :57:17. | :57:20. | |
speed should be prime-ministerial and trying to speak to the country, | :57:20. | :57:24. | |
-- the speech should be. But I think he feels he is in politically | :57:24. | :57:30. | |
a strong enough place to not have to Rafal -- return fire to the Lib | :57:30. | :57:35. | |
Dem press, nor attack Labour. His problem is convincing the country | :57:36. | :57:39. | |
he has got it. He understands the problem and he knows what to do | :57:39. | :57:43. | |
about it. Which in a sense is why the argument over the credit card | :57:43. | :57:50. | |
debt, a small storm in a teacup but indicative of the problem. | :57:50. | :57:54. | |
reason it matters so much, and they didn't understand this, was it | :57:54. | :57:57. | |
suggests that people are out of touch, they think credit cards can | :57:57. | :58:03. | |
be paid off, when they can't. last, and the Conservative | :58:03. | :58:08. | |
Conference... Just as well, I was about to ask you what your | :58:08. | :58:11. | |
favourite colour was! I was going to telly about my favourite | :58:11. | :58:15. | |
instrument! We don't need to, the Prime Minister has arrived on the | :58:15. | :58:20. | |
stage of the Prime Minister -- the Conservative Party Conference of | :58:20. | :58:24. | |
2011, taking the applause of this audience. It was quite a wait for | :58:24. | :58:28. | |
him as well. At least they had some videos to watch, you only had me | :58:29. | :58:35. | |
and Nick to listen to. Here is the This week in Manchester, this party | :58:35. | :58:40. | |
has shown the discipline, the unity and the purpose that is the mark of | :58:40. | :58:45. | |
a party of government. I am proud of my team, I am proud of our | :58:45. | :58:50. | |
members, I am proud to lead this party. But most are all, I am proud | :58:50. | :58:57. | |
of you. -- most of all. You have made this week the success I | :58:57. | :59:02. | |
believe it has been for our party and our country. People have very | :59:02. | :59:06. | |
clear instructions for this government. Lead us out of this | :59:06. | :59:14. | |
economic mess, do it in a way that is fair and right, and as you do it, | :59:15. | :59:21. | |
please build something worthwhile for us and our children. Clear | :59:21. | :59:27. | |
instructions, clear-cut objectives, and from me, a clear understanding | :59:27. | :59:33. | |
that in these difficult times, it is leadership we need. To get our | :59:34. | :59:39. | |
economy moving, to get our society working. And in a year, the | :59:39. | :59:44. | |
Olympics here, when the world will be watching us, to show everyone | :59:44. | :59:51. | |
what Great Britain remains. But first, I want to say something to | :59:51. | :59:58. | |
everyone in this hall. Thank you. Despite the predictions, you won | :59:58. | :00:02. | |
elections all over our country this may, so let us hear it for those | :00:02. | :00:06. | |
great campaigns that you fought and won. | :00:06. | :00:16. | |
:00:16. | :00:25. | ||
And thank you for something else, in that AV referendum, you did | :00:25. | :00:30. | |
Britain a service, and you kicked that excuse for a voting system off | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
the political agenda for a generation. So thank you for that | :00:33. | :00:43. | |
too. APPLAUSE | :00:43. | :00:50. | |
And next year, let us make sure we beat Ken, we back Boris and we keep | :00:50. | :01:00. | |
:01:00. | :01:00. | ||
London Conservative. APPLAUSE | :01:00. | :01:06. | |
But you're not just winners, you are doers. This summer, as before, | :01:06. | :01:13. | |
Conservatives went to Rwanda, to build classrooms, to help grow | :01:13. | :01:16. | |
businesses, social action, that is the spirit of the modern | :01:16. | :01:20. | |
Conservative Party. Here, at this conference, we've been recording | :01:20. | :01:25. | |
audio books for the blind. Now, I looked very carefully at the books | :01:25. | :01:31. | |
that my colleagues choose. George knew exactly what he wanted. | :01:31. | :01:41. | |
He went straipbgt for The -- straight for The Man Who Would Be | :01:41. | :01:49. | |
King. Boris missed out. He choose - The Joy Of Cycling. There was a | :01:49. | :01:57. | |
book I choose. I said, Ken, this is Crime and Punishment and I want you | :01:57. | :02:05. | |
to read it twice!" after yesterday we should have a group reading of | :02:05. | :02:13. | |
Mog, the Cat. If you read that book, you will remember that Mog helps | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
police catch the burglar, not keep him in the country. | :02:16. | :02:26. | |
APPLAUSE This is a party, and ours is a | :02:26. | :02:31. | |
country that never walks on by. Earlier this year, some people said | :02:31. | :02:37. | |
to me, Libya, that is not our concern. Don't start what you can't | :02:37. | :02:43. | |
finish. Some people even said to me, "Arab, they don't do democracy." If | :02:43. | :02:48. | |
we had stood aside this spring people in Benghazi would have been | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
massacred. Don't let anyone say that this wasn't in our national | :02:50. | :02:55. | |
interest. We remember what Gaddafi did. He | :02:55. | :03:00. | |
was the man who gave Semtex to the IRA. He was behind the shooting of | :03:01. | :03:05. | |
a London police officer. He was responsible for the bombing of a | :03:05. | :03:10. | |
skies over Lockerbie. I say, let us be proud of what we did to help the | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
Libyan people take back their country. | :03:12. | :03:22. | |
:03:22. | :03:26. | ||
APPLAUSE In Afghanistan today, there are men | :03:26. | :03:36. | |
and women fighting for Britain, as brave -- bravely as any in our | :03:36. | :03:39. | |
country. They come from Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland. They | :03:39. | :03:45. | |
have the equipment they need and we are on target to bring them home. | :03:45. | :03:49. | |
Theirs has been a campaign of incredible sacrifice. I know | :03:49. | :03:55. | |
everyone in this hall will want to send a message to everyone who | :03:55. | :03:59. | |
serves and has served, to those in uniform, in our armed services and | :03:59. | :04:05. | |
in our police. And for those not in uniform who keep us safe from | :04:05. | :04:09. | |
terrorism on our streets. We thank you, we salute you. We are proud of | :04:09. | :04:19. | |
:04:19. | :04:22. | ||
what you do for our country. APPLAUSE | :04:22. | :04:26. | |
But leadership in the world is about moral strength as much as | :04:26. | :04:32. | |
about military might. A few months ago, I was in Nigeria, on a trade | :04:32. | :04:36. | |
mission. While I was there, I visited a vaccination clinic. It's | :04:36. | :04:42. | |
an experience I will never forget. It was very hot, basic, the lights | :04:42. | :04:47. | |
kept going on and off to. The rows of women cuddling their babies this | :04:47. | :04:51. | |
place was a God send. One of the nurses told me that if it wasn't | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
for British aid, many of those beautiful babies would be dead. | :04:55. | :05:00. | |
In four years' time, this country will have helped vaccinate more of | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
the world's poorest children than there are people in the whole of | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
England. Of course we will make sure your money goes to people who | :05:08. | :05:12. | |
need it most. We will do it in a way that is transparent and | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
accountable. I really believe, that in spite of all our difficulties, | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
this is the right thing to do. It is a mark of our country and our | :05:19. | :05:24. | |
people that we never turn our backs on the world's poorest. I believe | :05:24. | :05:26. | |
everyone in Britain can be proud of that fact. | :05:26. | :05:36. | |
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APPLAUSE Leadership in tackling tyranny, | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
leadership in fighting poverty. When it came to that decision, to | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
help the Libyan people, there was something dispiriting about the | :05:49. | :05:52. | |
debate here in Britain. It wasn't that some people thought we | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
shouldn't do what we did, that is their right. That is a point of | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
view. It was that so many people actually | :06:00. | :06:03. | |
thought Britain couldn't do something like that any more. You | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
hear that kind of pessimism, about our economic future, our social | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
problems, our political system, that our best days are behind us | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
that we're on a path of certain decline. Well, I'm here to tell you | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
that simply isn't true. Of course, if we sit around and hope for the | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
best, the rest will leave us behind. If we fool ourselves that we can | :06:24. | :06:27. | |
grow our economy, mend our society, give our children the future we | :06:27. | :06:31. | |
want them to have, if we fool ourselvess that we can do these | :06:31. | :06:36. | |
things without effort, without correcting past mistakes, without | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
confronting vested interests and failed ideas, then no, we'll not | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
get anywhere. If we put in the effort. If we correct the mistakes | :06:43. | :06:46. | |
f we correct the vested interests and take on the failed ideas of the | :06:46. | :06:50. | |
past, then I know we can turn this ship around. | :06:50. | :06:56. | |
No-one wants false optimism. I will never pretend there are short-cuts | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
to success. Success will come with the right | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
ideas, the right approach, the right leadership. Leadership from | :07:04. | :07:09. | |
Government to set out the direction we must take and the choices we | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
must make, but leadership also from you. | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
The things that will deliver success are not politicians or | :07:17. | :07:22. | |
Government, it is the people of Britain and the spirit of Britain. | :07:22. | :07:27. | |
Some people say that to succeed in this world we need to be more like | :07:27. | :07:32. | |
India or China or Brazil. I say, we need to be more like us. | :07:32. | :07:40. | |
The real us. Hard-working, pioneering, creative, | :07:40. | :07:43. | |
optimistic, can-do. That is the spirit that has made this United | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
Kingdom what it is - a small country that does great things. One | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
of the most incredible success stories in the history of the world. | :07:51. | :07:57. | |
It's a spirit that I believe is alive and well today. | :07:57. | :08:04. | |
I see it in Tanya Sydney Roberts, the head teacher who started a free | :08:04. | :08:09. | |
school from scratch and it is four times over subscribed. What is her | :08:09. | :08:13. | |
ambition? To do it all over again. That is leadership. I see it in GPs | :08:13. | :08:18. | |
in Bexley who have taken control of their budgets. They have their | :08:18. | :08:23. | |
patients, some poorest in the country, free treatment in Harley | :08:23. | :08:28. | |
Street, on the NHS. That is leadership. I see it in all we saw | :08:28. | :08:33. | |
this summer. Dan Thomas, he watched the riots unfold on television. He | :08:33. | :08:38. | |
didn't sit there and think, "I'll just leave it for the council to | :08:38. | :08:44. | |
clear it up. "he got on the internet, he set out a call and | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
started a social movement. People picked up their brooms and re- | :08:47. | :08:51. | |
claimed the streets. The argument I want to make today is this - | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
leadership works. I know how tough things are. | :08:55. | :08:59. | |
I don't for one minute underestimate how worried people | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
feel, whether about making ends meet or the state of the world | :09:03. | :09:09. | |
economy. The truth is, right now, we need to be energised, not | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
paralysed by gloom and fear. Half the world is booming. Let's go and | :09:12. | :09:17. | |
sell to them. Many of our communities are thriefing. Let's | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
make the rest like them. There is so much great about our country. We | :09:21. | :09:26. | |
don't have to accept that success in this century automatically | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
belongs to others. We just have to remember the origin | :09:29. | :09:35. | |
of our achievements, the people of Britain taking a lead. | :09:35. | :09:45. | |
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That is why much... APPLAUSE That is why so much of my | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
leadership is about unleashing your leadership. | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
Giving everyone who wants it the chance to seize the opportunity, | :09:56. | :10:00. | |
the support and above all, the freedom to get things done and | :10:01. | :10:03. | |
giving everyone who wants to believe it, the confidence that | :10:03. | :10:08. | |
working hard and taking responsibility will be rewarded, | :10:08. | :10:11. | |
not punished. Let us reject the pessimism. | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
Let us bring on the can-do optimism. Let us summon the energy and | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
appetite to fight for a better future for our country, Great | :10:20. | :10:29. | |
:10:30. | :10:31. | ||
Britain. APPLAUSE | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
Now, of course, that starts with our economy. | :10:35. | :10:41. | |
As we meet here in Manchester, the threat to the world economy and to | :10:41. | :10:47. | |
Britain is as serious as in 2008, when world recession loomed. The | :10:47. | :10:51. | |
eurozone is in crisis. The French and the German economies | :10:51. | :10:55. | |
have slowed to a standstill. Even mighty America is questioned | :10:55. | :11:01. | |
about her debts. It is an anxious time. | :11:01. | :11:06. | |
Prices and bills keep going up. Petrol, electricity, the weekly | :11:06. | :11:12. | |
shop. On the news, it's job losses, cutbacks, closures. You think about | :11:12. | :11:16. | |
tuition fees, house prices, the cost of a deposit. You wonder how | :11:16. | :11:20. | |
our children are going to manage. Now, of course Government can help. | :11:20. | :11:26. | |
This one is. We've cut petrol duty. We've kept | :11:26. | :11:30. | |
the winter fuel allowance, cold weather payments. We have frozen | :11:30. | :11:34. | |
council tax this year. As George said on Monday, we'll freeze it all | :11:34. | :11:44. | |
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over again next year too. APPLAUSE | :11:45. | :11:51. | |
But we need to tell the truth about the overall economic situation. | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
People understand that when the economy goes into recession, times | :11:54. | :11:58. | |
get tough. But normally after a while things | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
pick up. Strong growth returns. People get | :12:01. | :12:06. | |
back into work. This time, it's not like that. | :12:06. | :12:13. | |
People want to know why the good times are so long in coming. The | :12:13. | :12:18. | |
answer is straightforward, but uncomfortable. This wasn't a normal | :12:18. | :12:24. | |
recession, it was a debt crisis. It was caused by too much borrowing | :12:24. | :12:29. | |
by individuals, banks, businesses and most of all by Governments. | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
When you're in a debt crisis, some of the normal things that | :12:33. | :12:37. | |
Governments can do to deal with a normal recession, like borrowing to | :12:37. | :12:42. | |
cut taxes, or increasing spending - these things won't work because | :12:42. | :12:46. | |
they lead to more debt which would make the crisis worse. Why? Because | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
it takes risks of higher interest rates, less confidence and the | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
threat of even higher taxes in future. The only way out of a debt | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
crisis is to deal with your debts. That's why households are paying | :12:59. | :13:04. | |
down the credit card and the store card bills. It means banks getting | :13:04. | :13:07. | |
their books in order. It means Governments, Governments all over | :13:08. | :13:12. | |
the world, cutting spending and living within their means. | :13:12. | :13:17. | |
This coalition Government, Conservatives and Liberal Democrats, | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
Nick Clegg and I, we've led the way here in Britain. | :13:21. | :13:25. | |
Our plan is right. Our plan will work. | :13:25. | :13:31. | |
I know that you can't see it or feel it right now, but think of it | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
like this, the new economy we're building, it is like building a | :13:35. | :13:38. | |
house. The most important part is the part | :13:38. | :13:43. | |
you can't see. The foundations. | :13:43. | :13:48. | |
Slowly, but surely we are laying solid foundations for a stronger | :13:48. | :13:53. | |
future. The vital point is this; if you | :13:53. | :14:03. | |
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don't stick with it, it won't work. There's something else... APPLAUSE | :14:07. | :14:11. | |
There's something else that we have to stick to, because we're not in | :14:11. | :14:15. | |
the euro, we can lay these foundations ourselves, on our own | :14:15. | :14:20. | |
terms, in our own way. So, let me say this, as long as I'm Prime | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
Minister, this country will never join the euro. | :14:23. | :14:33. | |
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APPLAUSE And I won't let us be sucked into | :14:41. | :14:46. | |
endless bail outs of countries that are in the euro either. Yes, we are | :14:46. | :14:50. | |
members of the IMF and we have responsibilities there. When it | :14:50. | :14:55. | |
comes to any euro bail out mechanism, my approach is simple - | :14:55. | :15:05. | |
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Labour got us into it and I am Of course, our Hall deficit- | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
reduction programme is really just one big bear out of the last | :15:13. | :15:19. | |
government -- Hall a deficit. -- one big bale out. We have been | :15:19. | :15:23. | |
subjected to a national apology Tour. Sorry for sucking up to | :15:23. | :15:26. | |
Gaddafi, for not regulating the banks probably for crushing civil | :15:26. | :15:30. | |
liberties, for failing to go green, for not building enough houses. | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
Sorry for the infighting that made it the most dysfunctional | :15:34. | :15:37. | |
government in the history of our country. But you know what, nothing. | :15:37. | :15:41. | |
Not a peep on the thing they really need to say sorry for. Wasting | :15:41. | :15:51. | |
:15:51. | :15:59. | ||
billions and billions of your money. You know what the Shadow Chancellor, | :15:59. | :16:04. | |
Ed Balls, said last week? That Labour didn't spend any more money | :16:04. | :16:13. | |
than they had available. Hello? Ed, you spend �428 billion more than | :16:13. | :16:19. | |
you had available. And there is only one conclusion you can draw | :16:19. | :16:23. | |
from this. We must never, ever, let these people anyway India our | :16:24. | :16:33. | |
economy ever again. For faith -- let these people anywhere near or | :16:33. | :16:43. | |
:16:43. | :16:47. | ||
our economy ever again. As before, it falls to asked to | :16:47. | :16:53. | |
clear up after a Labour government. -- it falls to ask. I have insisted | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
that we do it in a way that is fair. You can't cut the deficit the size | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
of ours without asking everyone to make a sacrifice, but those with | :17:01. | :17:07. | |
the most money are bearing the biggest burden. We have imposed a | :17:07. | :17:11. | |
permanent levy on the banks, we have raised taxes on people who | :17:11. | :17:16. | |
make their money overseas but to live here, and at the same time, we | :17:16. | :17:21. | |
have given will help to the poorest and most vulnerable. We are taking | :17:21. | :17:25. | |
it over a million of the lowest paid people out of tax or | :17:25. | :17:30. | |
altogether, and after the scandal of the 75p raised for pensions, we | :17:30. | :17:35. | |
are linking pensions to earnings so elderly people will be �10,000 | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
better off in their retirement. Yes, this is a One nation deficit- | :17:39. | :17:49. | |
:17:49. | :17:54. | ||
reduction plan from a one nation He and my friends, there is | :17:54. | :17:59. | |
something else that we, the Conservatives, have done. The | :17:59. | :18:04. | |
National Health Service is the most precious institution in our country. | :18:04. | :18:09. | |
The most precious institution to my family, to your family. At the last | :18:09. | :18:14. | |
election, it was Labour policy to cut the NHS. It was Liberal | :18:14. | :18:19. | |
Democrat policy to cut the NHS. It was our policy, Conservative policy, | :18:19. | :18:23. | |
to protect the NHS and spend more on it than this year, next year, | :18:23. | :18:27. | |
and the year after that, because we are the party of the NHS, and as | :18:27. | :18:37. | |
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long as I am here, that is the way But real fairness, will fairness | :18:43. | :18:49. | |
isn't just about what the state spends. It is about the link | :18:49. | :18:53. | |
between what you put in and get out. As we debate what people get from | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
the state, let us remember how we generate the taxes in the first | :18:57. | :19:01. | |
place. So to the unions planning to strike over public sector pensions, | :19:01. | :19:09. | |
I say this. You have every right to protest, but our population is | :19:09. | :19:14. | |
ageing, our public sector pension system is unaffordable, the only | :19:14. | :19:18. | |
way to give public sector workers a decent, sustainable pension system, | :19:18. | :19:24. | |
which I want to, and to do right by the taxpayer, is to ask public | :19:24. | :19:29. | |
servants to work a little longer and pay a little more. That is fair. | :19:29. | :19:34. | |
What is not fair, what is not right, is going on strike and hitting the | :19:34. | :19:44. | |
:19:44. | :19:57. | ||
very people that are helping to pay Dealing with our debts, that is | :19:57. | :20:03. | |
just line one, caused one of our plan for growth. We need jobs. We | :20:03. | :20:07. | |
are not going to get jobs by growing government, we need to grow | :20:07. | :20:12. | |
our businesses. So here is our growth plan. It is to do everything | :20:12. | :20:16. | |
we can to help businesses start to grow, to thrive and succeed. Where | :20:16. | :20:20. | |
that means backing off, cutting regulation, we will do that. Where | :20:20. | :20:24. | |
that means intervention and investment, we will intervene, we | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
will invest. Whatever it takes to help our businesses take on the | :20:28. | :20:33. | |
world, we will do it. The global economy has been transformed in | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
recent years. It used to take companies decades to become world | :20:37. | :20:42. | |
leaders. Now some of them do it in just a few years. When you step off | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
the plane in Delhi, or Shanghai, or Lagos, you can feel the energy, the | :20:47. | :20:52. | |
hunger, the drive to succeed. We need that here. There is too much, | :20:52. | :20:58. | |
frankly, can't do soggy mess around. We need to be a sharp, focused, can | :20:58. | :21:03. | |
do country. Let me say this. As we go for growth, the last thing I | :21:03. | :21:08. | |
want is to pump the old economy back up with a banking sector out | :21:08. | :21:12. | |
of control, manufacturing squeezed and prosperity confined to justify | :21:12. | :21:17. | |
parts of the country, and a few industries. Our plan is to build | :21:17. | :21:23. | |
something new, and to build something better. We can do it. | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
Look at what is happening in East London. Europe's financial capital | :21:27. | :21:33. | |
is now matched by Europe's technology capital. Facebook, Intel, | :21:33. | :21:43. | |
Google, Cisco, even Silicon Valley Bank. Our potential and investing | :21:43. | :21:48. | |
right here. The world's most famous digger, the JCB, made in | :21:48. | :21:53. | |
Staffordshire. Do you watch Formula 1? Ken does. Whether it is the | :21:53. | :21:56. | |
German Michael Schumacher, the Australian Mark Webber, what the | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
Brazilian Rubens Barrichello, they will have one thing in common. When | :21:59. | :22:09. | |
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they get into that car, it is made This is the new economy we must | :22:16. | :22:22. | |
build, leading an advanced technology, Life Sciences, | :22:22. | :22:26. | |
engineering, creating, exporting. It is easy to talk about these | :22:26. | :22:31. | |
things, it is more difficult to deliver them. For a start, you will | :22:31. | :22:36. | |
not deliver it, I just dividing industries into saints and sinners. | :22:36. | :22:40. | |
That is not just an insult to the financial insurance companies, the | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
accountancy firms, the professional services that make us billions of | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
pounds and employ millions of people. It is just much too | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
simplistic. I have always argued, we need businesses to be more | :22:51. | :22:55. | |
socially responsible. But to get proper growth, to rebalance our | :22:55. | :23:00. | |
economy, we have got to put some important new pieces into place. We | :23:00. | :23:03. | |
have got to take action now to get credit flowing to the small | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
businesses that are the engine of our economy. We have got to ring- | :23:07. | :23:11. | |
fence the banks so that they fulfil their role of landing safely to the | :23:11. | :23:15. | |
real economy. We are setting up technology and innovation centres, | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
where scientists and academics can work with entrepreneurs to turn | :23:19. | :23:22. | |
brilliant inventions into successful products. We have | :23:22. | :23:25. | |
reformed taxation to encourage enterprise and investment in the | :23:25. | :23:30. | |
high-growth firms. But we are also going to have to take some | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
controversial decisions, and to challenge some vested interests. | :23:34. | :23:39. | |
When firms need to adapt quickly, to win orders, to win the contract, | :23:39. | :23:43. | |
we cannot go on with the rigid, outdated employment legislation of | :23:43. | :23:49. | |
the past. I know the critics will say, what about workers' rights? We | :23:49. | :23:54. | |
mustn't forget the important worker right or all, the right to have a | :23:54. | :24:04. | |
:24:04. | :24:15. | ||
When in modern business you are quick or dead, it is hopeless that | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
our infrastructure lags so far behind Europe. That is why we need | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
to build a high-speed rail and we need to get the fastest broadband | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
network in Europe as well. When a balanced economy needs workers with | :24:27. | :24:32. | |
skills, we need to put an end to the old slobbery about vocational | :24:32. | :24:35. | |
education and training -- old snobbery. This government is | :24:35. | :24:39. | |
providing training for an extra 250,000 apprenticeships across this | :24:39. | :24:44. | |
Parliament, but we're not getting enough back from big business. So | :24:44. | :24:48. | |
here is a direct appeal. If you want skilled employees, we will | :24:48. | :24:52. | |
provide the funding, we will cut the red tape, but you have got to | :24:52. | :24:56. | |
show the leadership and give us the apprenticeships this country so | :24:56. | :25:06. | |
:25:06. | :25:10. | ||
badly needs. Unlocking growth, rebalancing our | :25:10. | :25:16. | |
economy, it also requires change in Brussels. The EU is the biggest | :25:16. | :25:20. | |
single market in the world, it has got amazing potential, but it is | :25:20. | :25:25. | |
not working properly. Almost every day, I see. This new regulation | :25:25. | :25:35. | |
:25:35. | :25:38. | ||
coming our way. A couple of weeks I came across this EU directive. Do | :25:38. | :25:42. | |
you know what it was about? Whether people with diabetes should be | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
allowed to drive. What an earth has this got to do with the single | :25:47. | :25:53. | |
market. Do you suppose anyone in China is thinking, I know what will | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
grow iconic, let's get those diabetics off the road. Europe has | :25:57. | :26:02. | |
got to wake up and the EU growth plan that I have published, that I | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
want to publish at every meeting, every council, every summer, that | :26:06. | :26:13. | |
is the alarm call that Russell needs -- Brussels needs. Our | :26:13. | :26:19. | |
businesses need the space to go -- grow, Mick literally our - | :26:19. | :26:24. | |
literally. It is hard to blame local people for imposing local | :26:24. | :26:28. | |
developments -- opposing local developments when we get so little | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
of the benefits. We are changing that. If a new manufacturing plant | :26:32. | :26:35. | |
is billed in your area, your council will keep the business | :26:35. | :26:40. | |
rates. -- built in your area. This is a low-cost plan for a localised | :26:40. | :26:46. | |
party. -- local list plan. People are worried about what this means | :26:46. | :26:50. | |
for consolation. I love our countryside and would never do | :26:50. | :26:54. | |
anything to put it at risk. But we have got to get the balance right. | :26:54. | :27:02. | |
The proportion of land in England that is currently built up his 9%. | :27:02. | :27:07. | |
Our - is 9%. There are businesses desperate to expand to thousands of | :27:07. | :27:11. | |
people but are stuck in the mud of are planning system. We are going | :27:11. | :27:19. | |
To those who oppose everything we do, my message is this. Take your | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
arguments down to the Jobcentre, because we are going to get Britain | :27:23. | :27:33. | |
:27:33. | :27:39. | ||
back to work. This new economy we are building, | :27:39. | :27:44. | |
it must be an economy for everyone. You know the real tragedy of | :27:44. | :27:47. | |
Labour's economy? It is not just that it was unsustainable, | :27:47. | :27:52. | |
unbalanced, overwhelmed with dead, it is that it left so many people | :27:52. | :27:57. | |
behind. They talked a lot about opportunity, but they ripped the | :27:57. | :28:02. | |
ladders of opportunity away. We had an education system that left | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
hundreds of thousands on prepared for work. We had a welfare system | :28:06. | :28:11. | |
that trapped thousands in its dependency. We had an immigration | :28:11. | :28:20. | |
system that brought migrant workers to do the jobs we were not paying | :28:20. | :28:24. | |
those on welfare to do. We had a government, oh boy did we have a | :28:24. | :28:29. | |
government, that creamed the taxes off the boom to splurge back into | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
the benefits, redoubling the failure all over again. Labour, who | :28:32. | :28:37. | |
tell us they care so much about fairness and justice, who say they | :28:37. | :28:40. | |
want to hit the rich and help the poor, Labour gave us the casino | :28:40. | :28:45. | |
economy and the welfare society. Who is going to lift the poorest | :28:45. | :28:50. | |
up? Who is going to get our young people back to work? Who is going | :28:50. | :28:54. | |
to create a fairer society? Not you, the self-righteous Labour Party, it | :28:54. | :28:58. | |
will be asked, the Conservatives, who built the economy that works | :28:58. | :29:03. | |
for everyone and gives hope to everyone in our economy. -- in our | :29:03. | :29:13. | |
:29:13. | :29:23. | ||
country. That must start with a good | :29:23. | :29:30. | |
education for everybody. It sounds so simple. Proper teaching, good | :29:30. | :29:36. | |
discipline, rigorous exams, but it is hard. It is hard, because our | :29:36. | :29:40. | |
education system has been effected by an ideology that instead of | :29:40. | :29:44. | |
insisting on every child's success, as too often made excuses for | :29:44. | :29:53. | |
failure. They say that poor kids Will in this community you can't | :29:53. | :29:58. | |
expect too much, you really must understand. I do understand. Oh, | :29:58. | :30:04. | |
yes, I understand. But believe me, I am disgusted by the idea that we | :30:04. | :30:08. | |
should aim for any less for a child from a poor background and a rich | :30:09. | :30:18. | |
:30:19. | :30:28. | ||
APPLAUSE I have contempt for the notion that we should accept narrow | :30:28. | :30:33. | |
horizons for a black child than a white one. It is the age-old irony | :30:33. | :30:39. | |
of the liberal left. They practise oppression and they call it | :30:39. | :30:49. | |
:30:49. | :30:49. | ||
equality. So we... APPLAUSE So we are fighting back. | :30:50. | :30:55. | |
Something really massive is happening in our country. There is | :30:55. | :30:59. | |
now a irrefruitable proof that with the right schools, right freedoms | :30:59. | :31:03. | |
and leadership, we can transform the education of the most deprived | :31:03. | :31:08. | |
children. You heard yesterday from that inspirational student from | :31:08. | :31:11. | |
Burlington Danes Academy in Hammersmith. | :31:11. | :31:18. | |
An InterCity school, deprived area, almost half of the children on free | :31:18. | :31:23. | |
school meals. But this year five- quarters got five good gstgss, | :31:24. | :31:28. | |
including English and -- gsts, including English and maths. That | :31:28. | :31:32. | |
is better than schools in Cambridgeshire, Sussex got last | :31:32. | :31:38. | |
year. Some of the most affluent counties in our country. Why? | :31:38. | :31:41. | |
Because the head teacher, her staff, the parents, they all rose up and | :31:41. | :31:47. | |
said, "We are as good as anyone. Our children can achieve anything." | :31:47. | :31:57. | |
:31:57. | :32:00. | ||
Leadership works and we'll make it work in all of our schools. | :32:00. | :32:04. | |
APPLAUSE We're backing more head teachers to turn more schools into | :32:04. | :32:08. | |
academies. We want charities, entrepreneurs to come into our | :32:08. | :32:12. | |
education system and set up the new free schools too. Change is really | :32:12. | :32:16. | |
underway. For the first time in a long time, the numbers studying | :32:16. | :32:26. | |
those core and vital subjects, history, geography are going up. | :32:26. | :32:33. | |
Exams will be marked on grammar. Teachers will be able to search | :32:33. | :32:37. | |
bags, for weapons, alcohol, anything. It is a long road back to | :32:37. | :32:44. | |
rigour, but my friends, we are well on our way. | :32:44. | :32:51. | |
APPLAUSE And here is something else we're | :32:51. | :32:57. | |
going to do, in Britain today we do have a group of schools that are | :32:57. | :33:03. | |
utterly intolerant of failure, where 90% of pupils get five good | :33:03. | :33:07. | |
GCSEs, yes, private schools. You've heard me talk about social | :33:07. | :33:12. | |
responsibility. I want to see private schools start academies and | :33:12. | :33:18. | |
sponsor akam mis in the state system. Wellington does it Dulwich | :33:18. | :33:21. | |
does it, others can do. The apartheid between private and state | :33:21. | :33:25. | |
education is one of the biggest wasted opportunities in our country | :33:25. | :33:30. | |
today. Let it be us, the Conservative Party, who helped to | :33:30. | :33:40. | |
:33:40. | :33:42. | ||
tear it down. APPLAUSE | :33:42. | :33:47. | |
Rigour back in learning, standards back in schools, teachers back in | :33:47. | :33:49. | |
control - the Conservatives are back in Government. | :33:49. | :33:59. | |
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APPLAUSE An economy that works for everyone | :34:01. | :34:04. | |
means sorting out welfare and immigration as well. Welfare began | :34:04. | :34:09. | |
as a lifeline. For too many it has become a way of life. Generation | :34:09. | :34:13. | |
after generation, in the cycle of dependency and we are determined to | :34:13. | :34:17. | |
break it. Part of our answer is controlling immigration. | :34:17. | :34:22. | |
So, we put a cap on the numbers of none EU immigrants allowed to come | :34:22. | :34:27. | |
and work in our country. We must not lock out talent. I want the | :34:27. | :34:31. | |
best and brightest, entrepreneurs, students and scientists from around | :34:31. | :34:36. | |
the world to get the red-carpet treatment and they will. The fake | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
marriages, people arriving for a month and staying for year, the | :34:40. | :34:43. | |
criminals who use the Human Rights Act to try and stay in the country, | :34:43. | :34:48. | |
we are clamping down on each and every one of them. | :34:48. | :34:55. | |
APPLAUSE We've got to get some sense back | :34:55. | :34:58. | |
into our labour market and get British people back into work. | :34:58. | :35:03. | |
Now, for years, you have been conned by Governments. | :35:03. | :35:08. | |
To keep the unemployment figures down, they parked as many people as | :35:08. | :35:13. | |
possible on to the sick - 2.5 million, to be exact. Not | :35:13. | :35:17. | |
officially unemployed, but claiming welfare, no real questions asked. | :35:17. | :35:23. | |
Today, we're asking those questions. It turns out that of the 1.3 | :35:23. | :35:27. | |
million people who have put in a claim for the new sickness benefit | :35:27. | :35:32. | |
in recent years, one million are either able to work, or stop their | :35:32. | :35:35. | |
claim before their medical assessment had been completed. | :35:35. | :35:38. | |
Under Labour, they got something for nothing. | :35:38. | :35:42. | |
With us, they will only get something if they give something. | :35:42. | :35:47. | |
If they are prepared to work, we're going to help them and I mean | :35:47. | :35:51. | |
really help them. If you've been out of work and on benefits for | :35:51. | :35:55. | |
five years, a quick session down the Jobcentre, some help with your | :35:55. | :35:59. | |
CV, that is not going to cut it. That will not help you. You need to | :35:59. | :36:05. | |
get your self-esteem and confidence back. You need training and skills, | :36:05. | :36:07. | |
intensive support. Previous Governments will never willing to | :36:07. | :36:11. | |
make a proper commitment. Were never willing to sign the necessary | :36:11. | :36:15. | |
cheque to get this done. Never willing to break the Treasury rules | :36:15. | :36:20. | |
to make it happen. We have. We have invested now so we don't pay later. | :36:20. | :36:25. | |
We are going to spend up to �14,000 on individual people, just to get | :36:25. | :36:31. | |
them trained and back into work. I know that is a lot of money, but | :36:31. | :36:37. | |
it is worth it. Let it be us, let it be this Government, let it be | :36:37. | :36:41. | |
the Conservatives that finally build an economy where no-one gets | :36:41. | :36:51. | |
:36:51. | :36:52. | ||
left behind. APPLAUSE | :36:52. | :36:55. | |
And for most people, for most people, that means also a home of | :36:55. | :37:00. | |
their own. Not just any old home, but a decent | :37:00. | :37:08. | |
one, light and spacious. Rooms for the kids to play in. The percentage | :37:08. | :37:12. | |
of British people who own their own home is going down. Unless you get | :37:12. | :37:16. | |
help from your parents, do you know the average age of a first-time | :37:16. | :37:22. | |
buyer in our country today? It is Now, you hear some people say, well, | :37:23. | :37:28. | |
why can't we be like in Europe where everyone rents? There is | :37:28. | :37:32. | |
nothing to do, we don't have the money. I disagree. The failure of | :37:32. | :37:35. | |
the housing market is bound newspaper the debt crisis. Because | :37:35. | :37:39. | |
the lenders won't lend, the builders won't build and the buyers | :37:39. | :37:43. | |
can't buy, we are going to sort this out. We're going to bring back | :37:43. | :37:51. | |
the right buy your council house. We'll use that money to build new | :37:51. | :37:57. | |
homes. It was Macmillan who made us the home owning democracy. Margaret | :37:57. | :38:01. | |
Thatcher what gave us the right to buy. Let us inspire a new Tory | :38:01. | :38:11. | |
:38:11. | :38:13. | ||
housing revolution. APPLAUSE | :38:14. | :38:17. | |
And while I'm on the subject of those great Conservative figures, | :38:18. | :38:23. | |
let me say this, I'm incredibly fortunate in leading this party | :38:24. | :38:30. | |
that I've had the full-throated, incredible support from all our | :38:30. | :38:34. | |
previous leaders. Michael Howard, Sir John Major and of course | :38:34. | :38:38. | |
Margaret Thatcher. And you know what, in this party we don't boo | :38:38. | :38:43. | |
our leaders, we are proud of what they've done fosh our party and | :38:43. | :38:47. | |
what they've -- for our party and what they've done for our country. | :38:47. | :38:57. | |
:38:57. | :39:15. | ||
A few months ago, we were all shocked by the scenes on our | :39:15. | :39:21. | |
streets, in London and in other parts of the country. Perhaps | :39:21. | :39:26. | |
almost the most shocking thing is that people weren't that surprised. | :39:26. | :39:30. | |
There was no great call for a public inquiry to find out what has | :39:30. | :39:35. | |
gone wrong. Instead, what I think you could hear was the angry | :39:35. | :39:40. | |
insistent, overwhelming cry of a country shouting to its leaders. We | :39:40. | :39:45. | |
know, we know high this happened. We know what has gone wrong. | :39:45. | :39:49. | |
We know that if the system keeps fudging the difference between | :39:49. | :39:54. | |
right and wrong we'll never improve behaviour. We know as long as the | :39:54. | :39:57. | |
police go around with their hand behind their back we will never | :39:57. | :40:01. | |
make our streets truly safe. More than anything, we know that if | :40:01. | :40:03. | |
parents don't meet their responsibilities, their kids will | :40:03. | :40:09. | |
get out of control. What people were saying to us is, | :40:09. | :40:14. | |
"Yes, we know what has gone wrong and we want you to put it right." | :40:15. | :40:19. | |
One of the things that people want is speedy justice. | :40:19. | :40:23. | |
After the riots, those responsible were put straight into court and | :40:23. | :40:26. | |
tough sentences were quickly handed out. | :40:26. | :40:31. | |
I've made it clear to the police, the prosecution services, the | :40:31. | :40:34. | |
Ministry of Justice, the Attorney- General f we can do that then, let | :40:34. | :40:37. | |
us do it all the time, year in, year out. | :40:37. | :40:47. | |
:40:47. | :40:50. | ||
APPLAUSE We all know that the problems go | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
deeper. That is why my driving mission in | :40:54. | :40:57. | |
politics is to build that bigger, stronger society. | :40:57. | :41:02. | |
It starts with families. I want to make this the most | :41:02. | :41:05. | |
family-friendly Government the country has ever seen. | :41:05. | :41:08. | |
More childcare, more health visitors, more relationship support, | :41:09. | :41:13. | |
more help with parenting. For the 120,000 families that are the most | :41:13. | :41:16. | |
troubled, and frankly cause the most trouble, a commitment to turn | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
their lives around by the end of this Parliament. | :41:20. | :41:27. | |
Today, I can announce this; another new focus. | :41:27. | :41:33. | |
There are 65,000 children in care. Do you know how many children there | :41:33. | :41:39. | |
are in care under the age of one? 3,660. | :41:39. | :41:44. | |
To you know how many children under the age of one are adopted in our | :41:44. | :41:50. | |
country last year? 60. This may not seem like the biggest | :41:50. | :41:54. | |
issue facing our country, but it is the biggest issue for these | :41:54. | :41:58. | |
children. How can we have let this happen? We have got people flying | :41:58. | :42:05. | |
all over the world to adopt babies, while the care system at home | :42:05. | :42:07. | |
agonises about placing black children with white families. With | :42:07. | :42:11. | |
the right values w the right effort, let us be the ones that end this | :42:11. | :42:15. | |
scandal and help these, the most vulnerable children of all. | :42:15. | :42:25. | |
:42:25. | :42:36. | ||
But for me, leadership on families also means speaking out on marriage. | :42:36. | :42:41. | |
Marriage is not just a piece of paper, it pulls people together | :42:41. | :42:45. | |
through the ebb and flow of life. It says powerful things about what | :42:45. | :42:50. | |
we value. So, yes, we will recognise marriage and the tax | :42:50. | :42:53. | |
system. While also doing something else. | :42:53. | :42:58. | |
I stood before a Conservative conference once and I said it | :42:58. | :43:01. | |
shouldn't matter whether commitment was between a man and a woman or a | :43:01. | :43:04. | |
man and a man, or a woman and a woman. | :43:04. | :43:10. | |
You applauded me. Five years on, we are consulting on | :43:10. | :43:15. | |
legalising gay marriage. To anyone who has reservations, I say this, | :43:15. | :43:21. | |
yes, it's about equality, but it's also about something else - | :43:21. | :43:24. | |
commitment. Conservatives believe in the ties that bind us, that | :43:24. | :43:28. | |
society is stronger when we make vows to each other and we support | :43:28. | :43:33. | |
each other. So, I don't support gay marriage in spite of being a | :43:33. | :43:35. | |
Conservative, I support gay marriage because I am a | :43:35. | :43:45. | |
:43:45. | :43:54. | ||
Conservative. We value community spirit and | :43:54. | :43:59. | |
social action too. We see it every day in our own lives, in our own | :43:59. | :44:02. | |
communities. It is one of the great things about Britain. Do you know | :44:02. | :44:05. | |
what? After the last five years of Labour Government the number of | :44:06. | :44:09. | |
people volunteering went down. Last year the decline was halted. Now | :44:09. | :44:12. | |
the proportion of people saying they belong strongly to their | :44:12. | :44:16. | |
neighbourhood is the highest for a decade. | :44:16. | :44:21. | |
If you're cynical, go to Wythenshawe, a few miles from here. | :44:21. | :44:26. | |
It used to be ravaged by crime and drugs and graffiti. Local people | :44:26. | :44:30. | |
opened a community hall, a gym. They got the kids off the street. | :44:30. | :44:34. | |
They kicked out the drug habit and the drug dealers. Of course | :44:34. | :44:36. | |
Government cannot legislate for this, but we can support the | :44:36. | :44:40. | |
leadership that makes it happen. That is why we're giving | :44:40. | :44:44. | |
neighbourhoods new powers to take over the running of playgrounds, | :44:44. | :44:48. | |
pubs and parks. It is why we're making it easier for people to give | :44:48. | :44:54. | |
their time and money to good causes. Why we have elected mayors. Now | :44:54. | :44:57. | |
we're drawing up plans to open up our public services and give more | :44:57. | :45:03. | |
power to people. But one of the biggest things holding people back | :45:03. | :45:09. | |
from playing a part in biging a bigger society is health and safety. | :45:09. | :45:13. | |
I was told recently about a school that wanted to buy a set of high- | :45:13. | :45:18. | |
lighter pens. With the pens came a warning. Not | :45:18. | :45:24. | |
so fast, make sure you comply with the control of substances hazardous | :45:24. | :45:29. | |
of health regulations 2002. Make sure you include plenty of fresh | :45:29. | :45:33. | |
air and hand and eye protection. You try highlighting with all of | :45:33. | :45:39. | |
that! This wasn't how a great nation was built. Britannia didn't | :45:39. | :45:46. | |
rule the waves with her armbands on. We're scaling it back. The CBR | :45:46. | :45:50. | |
checks, we're cutting them back. At last, let's bring some common sense | :45:51. | :46:00. | |
:46:01. | :46:03. | ||
Building stronger communities, that is why we introduced National | :46:03. | :46:06. | |
Citizen Service. You saw it for yourself at the start of this | :46:06. | :46:11. | |
afternoon's session. One of the people who took part this year, | :46:11. | :46:17. | |
Owen Carter, wrote to me and said, this has changed my perspective of | :46:17. | :46:21. | |
life. You can do anything if you work hard and have a supportive | :46:21. | :46:25. | |
team around you. You can do anything. That is the spirit I am | :46:26. | :46:30. | |
talking about. That is why we are tripling the scale of National | :46:30. | :46:34. | |
Citizen Service, that is how we will build our big society, and | :46:34. | :46:41. | |
that his leadership. Next year, we are going to welcome the world for | :46:41. | :46:45. | |
the Olympics and the Queen's Diamond Jubilee. This two event say | :46:46. | :46:51. | |
a lot about Britain. Tradition and modernity, all in one. Today, we | :46:52. | :46:55. | |
can choose to be a country that is back on its feet and striding | :46:55. | :46:59. | |
forward. Paying down our debt and earning a living, getting people | :46:59. | :47:03. | |
off welfare and into work, breaking new ground in education with | :47:03. | :47:07. | |
excellence for Everyone and not a privileged few. We can be a country | :47:07. | :47:11. | |
where people look back on their life and say, I have worked hard, | :47:11. | :47:15. | |
raised a family, I am part of a community and all along it was | :47:15. | :47:20. | |
worth my while. We are too far from that today, but we can get there. | :47:20. | :47:24. | |
It is not complicated but it is not easy either, because nothing | :47:24. | :47:27. | |
worthwhile is easily won. But we have been told we were finished | :47:27. | :47:33. | |
before. They told us when we lost an empire, we couldn't find a role, | :47:34. | :47:38. | |
but we took on communism, we help bring down the Berlin Wall. They | :47:38. | :47:41. | |
called our economy the sick man of Europe but we turned this country | :47:41. | :47:45. | |
into a beacon of enterprise. No, Britain never had the biggest | :47:45. | :47:49. | |
population, the largest land mass, the richest resources, but we had | :47:49. | :47:53. | |
the spirit. It is not the size of the dog in the fight, it is the | :47:53. | :47:59. | |
size of the fight in the dock. Overcoming challenge. Confounding | :47:59. | :48:09. | |
:48:09. | :48:11. | ||
the sceptics, reinventing ourselves. That is what we do, it is called | :48:11. | :48:16. | |
leadership. Let this time of challenge be turned into a time of | :48:16. | :48:19. | |
opportunity. Not sitting around watching things happen and | :48:19. | :48:22. | |
wondering why, but standing up, making things happen and asking, | :48:22. | :48:27. | |
why not? We have the ideas, we have the people, and now we have the | :48:28. | :48:31. | |
government that is freeing these people, backing those ideas. Let's | :48:31. | :48:34. | |
see an optimistic future, let's show the world some fight, let's | :48:34. | :48:42. | |
pull together, work together and lead Britain to better days ahead. | :48:42. | :48:51. | |
STUDIO: David Cameron finishes his address to the Conservative Party | :48:51. | :48:55. | |
Conference of 2011. He gets the immediate, almost statutory | :48:55. | :49:02. | |
standing ovation. Walking around the stage now, taking the applause. | :49:02. | :49:07. | |
He said the debt crisis was different from previous crises. And | :49:07. | :49:14. | |
that is why this situation seems soaked in a tractable. -- | :49:14. | :49:18. | |
intractable. There was no mention of Ed Miliband. There had been a | :49:18. | :49:22. | |
debate about whether he should or not. He settled for attacking Ed | :49:22. | :49:27. | |
Balls instead, that always goes down well at a Tory conference. He | :49:27. | :49:30. | |
attacked Labour for creating a casino economy and their welfare | :49:30. | :49:35. | |
society. He talked a lot about school reform, he regards that as | :49:35. | :49:40. | |
part of the success for radical Tory reforms he is introducing, and | :49:40. | :49:46. | |
well fat, too. He also added the need for a new Tory revolution -- | :49:46. | :49:51. | |
and welfare, too. So far, it seems to involve re- instituting the | :49:52. | :49:56. | |
right to buy. Mr Cameron, making his way through the conference hall, | :49:56. | :50:00. | |
taking the handshakes and applause of the party faithful. Looking at | :50:00. | :50:05. | |
some of the early media reaction, I would not say that the media on the | :50:05. | :50:09. | |
left or right are regarding this as his finest conference performance. | :50:09. | :50:15. | |
Quite a lot of criticism on the various tweets and from various | :50:15. | :50:20. | |
press commentators. Instant reactions are not always the ones | :50:20. | :50:25. | |
that stay with people in the end. It has been a relatively subdued | :50:25. | :50:30. | |
Conservative conference this year. Even this standing ovation is, by | :50:30. | :50:35. | |
Tory standards, quite subdued as well. It is as if they are going | :50:35. | :50:39. | |
through the motions. Mr Cameron looks a little tired, these are | :50:39. | :50:44. | |
difficult times. He didn't do well on the international scene and the | :50:44. | :50:47. | |
incredible the difficult international economic position | :50:47. | :50:52. | |
that Britain finds itself in -- he didn't dwell on. We hope to be | :50:52. | :50:56. | |
speaking to William Hague shortly. But me go to Johan Fredriksen, who | :50:56. | :51:06. | |
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will get some reaction of her own. Your first impression, what did you | :51:07. | :51:12. | |
think? I was interested to find out he is putting such emphasis on | :51:12. | :51:19. | |
improving people's ability to volunteer. I am passionate about | :51:19. | :51:23. | |
volunteering and I feel that makes participation and integration into | :51:23. | :51:28. | |
society, and it makes people respect themselves and society as a | :51:28. | :51:32. | |
greater whole. Helping each other and the community is very important. | :51:32. | :51:37. | |
He did a whole section, he started with Libya, and really dedicated | :51:37. | :51:42. | |
the first bit of his speech to leadership. What did you think of | :51:42. | :51:52. | |
:51:52. | :51:54. | ||
that? Excellent. David Cameron has an absolute Formula there. It is | :51:54. | :51:58. | |
not... We are not about looking to others all the time to take | :51:59. | :52:04. | |
responsibility. It is about taking responsibility ourselves, and I | :52:04. | :52:07. | |
think that is the message David Cameron was putting out. What about | :52:07. | :52:15. | |
you, David? Terribly impressed. I think he shows an instinct that is | :52:15. | :52:21. | |
really important for this country. Any policy that grab you? No, the | :52:21. | :52:28. | |
policy that was missing before was housing. I am so sorry. We have | :52:28. | :52:32. | |
almost come to the end of our programme. I'm going to have to | :52:32. | :52:36. | |
thank you all, thank you for rushing out, David, particularly, | :52:36. | :52:42. | |
and I will return to Andrew. Thanks, we have William Hague, he | :52:42. | :52:47. | |
has hot-footed it from the conference, welcomed. Thank you. | :52:47. | :52:52. | |
Last year, the Prime Minister told us the British economy was out of | :52:52. | :52:55. | |
the danger zone. Would it be fair to say we are back in the dangers | :52:55. | :53:01. | |
own? No. Are triple-A credit rating was maintained this week, at a time | :53:01. | :53:05. | |
when in other countries, credit ratings of banks and countries were | :53:05. | :53:10. | |
being reduced I think it is fair to say that the global economic danger | :53:10. | :53:15. | |
zone has been enlarged, but I think it would be the wrong attitude to | :53:15. | :53:22. | |
say we are back in the danger zone. If there is a disorderly default in | :53:22. | :53:26. | |
Greece, and the eurozone proves incapable of putting into place the | :53:26. | :53:30. | |
necessary measures to stop the contagion, we will be swept up in | :53:30. | :53:35. | |
that. Virtually the entire western world would be affected by that | :53:35. | :53:39. | |
very seriously. I have often used the analogy of the burning building | :53:39. | :53:44. | |
with no exits, but we have to support them in quenching the fire. | :53:44. | :53:48. | |
That is what George Osborne is engaged in and he was at the | :53:48. | :53:51. | |
finance ministers' meeting in Luxembourg last week. He has been | :53:51. | :53:55. | |
producing some of the ideas, as well as urging them before the | :53:55. | :54:02. | |
Cannes summit and the G20 summit, to take the necessary action. Of | :54:02. | :54:06. | |
course it involves recapitalising the banks, making sure that the | :54:06. | :54:10. | |
eurozone countries work closely together. If a building is burning | :54:10. | :54:14. | |
and there is no exits, how do you put the fire out? You have to use | :54:14. | :54:18. | |
all the resources you have got in there. You can't get the hoses in, | :54:18. | :54:23. | |
how do you get in? It may be taking the matter for a bit too far. | :54:23. | :54:28. | |
your metaphor. There is a serious point, there is no provision for | :54:28. | :54:34. | |
countries to leave the euro. The eurozone is a symptom of the wider | :54:34. | :54:38. | |
problem of debt and deficits in Western nations. Because of the | :54:38. | :54:42. | |
eurozone is not well designed, it really shows that pressure, but it | :54:42. | :54:45. | |
applies in the United States as well. The deficits have been too | :54:45. | :54:49. | |
great. It applies in this country. We are dealing with that. You have | :54:49. | :54:55. | |
seen the Prime Minister, a man who really gives the necessary | :54:55. | :54:58. | |
leadership in dealing with it. can't give leadership to the | :54:58. | :55:05. | |
eurozone, we are not part of it. Unlike the banking crisis in 2008, | :55:05. | :55:10. | |
where because of London's position, we were a central part of that, we | :55:10. | :55:15. | |
are spectators, or at best, sensible critics from the sideline. | :55:15. | :55:18. | |
We are a bit more than that. Hopefully we are sensible critics, | :55:18. | :55:23. | |
we are a bit more than spectators. It does involve us, and we are one | :55:23. | :55:27. | |
of the principal players in subscribing to the International | :55:27. | :55:35. | |
Monetary Fund. No Euro bail-outs, you said. No, but if the IMF takes | :55:35. | :55:40. | |
action, Britain is part of that. We have since Crick -- increased our | :55:40. | :55:45. | |
subscription to the IMF accordingly. As such a big player in the | :55:45. | :55:48. | |
financial world, what the Chancellor says to Britain is taken | :55:48. | :55:58. | |
:55:58. | :55:59. | ||
very seriously. It has turned out as of today that the economy is not | :55:59. | :56:03. | |
growing. There has been no growth for nine months. Over the last year, | :56:03. | :56:07. | |
the economy has grown. When ministers have told us the economy | :56:07. | :56:11. | |
is growing, it turned out they were wrong. This economy, as of now, is | :56:11. | :56:17. | |
not growing. We don't have the figures for now. We have them for | :56:17. | :56:22. | |
the nine months to the summer. Those figures come out in the so -- | :56:22. | :56:28. | |
the future. Are you expecting them to be growing? I am sorry, over the | :56:28. | :56:31. | |
last year, this economy has not grown, it has not grown since the | :56:31. | :56:34. | |
end of the third quarter of last year. These figures have been | :56:34. | :56:38. | |
revised but there has still been growth in the economy. Of course we | :56:38. | :56:42. | |
want the economy to grow more strongly, and that is what so many | :56:42. | :56:45. | |
of these measures are about. Look at the housing announcement that | :56:46. | :56:51. | |
the Prime Minister referred to. 200,000 more homes, 400,000 new | :56:51. | :56:55. | |
jobs. These are the sort of announcement necessary to help the | :56:55. | :57:02. | |
growth, which is no, anaemic, or of expression you want to use. -- | :57:02. | :57:07. | |
which is low, Andy Nicol what ever expression you want to use. It is | :57:07. | :57:17. | |
:57:17. | :57:18. | ||
The government is adding half a trillion pounds to its debt. One of | :57:18. | :57:23. | |
the things we are doing is bringing government debt under control. | :57:23. | :57:28. | |
are increasing it. It is going up because of the inheritance that we | :57:28. | :57:33. | |
have got. Everybody has agreed that what George Osborne has announced | :57:33. | :57:38. | |
brings down the deficit. Debt is heading for almost 1.5 trillion. | :57:38. | :57:42. | |
That is the total stock of debt. Why do you get to borrow more and | :57:42. | :57:46. | |
we are told to pay off credit cards? We don't have to borrow more. | :57:46. | :57:53. | |
You are borrowing more. We are saving �85 billion from government | :57:53. | :58:00. | |
spending, so the stock of debt will not be going up as quickly as it | :58:00. | :58:03. | |
would on the previous plans. We are not telling people what to do with | :58:03. | :58:06. | |
their credit cards. The Prime Minister said in his speech, people | :58:06. | :58:11. | |
have been playing down their credit card bills. Of course, an economy | :58:11. | :58:14. | |
that is vulnerable to high levels of debt on the personal level, | :58:14. | :58:17. | |
company level, bank level, government level, is very | :58:17. | :58:22. | |
vulnerable in this situation. Subdued conference, a bit worried? | :58:22. | :58:30. | |
No, I think this is a confident The fact that the biggest argument | :58:30. | :58:34. | |
has been over a cat shows it has been pretty successful. The party | :58:34. | :58:39. | |
is confident but realistic. Realistic but optimistic. A | :58:39. | :58:43. | |
realistic but optimistic speech. Thank you for being with us. That | :58:43. | :58:48. | |
brings to an end are live coverage of the conference season on 2011 on | :58:48. | :58:52. |