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custody until next month. Now on BBC News it's time for HARDtalk. | :01:39. | :01:44. | |
The government of Guatemala or has promised to tackle the high murder | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
rate of a country living under the threat of gangs, organised crime | :01:48. | :01:52. | |
and drug traffickers. Some have expressed fears it could become a | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
narco state, with state institutions that are weak or | :01:56. | :02:00. | |
corrupted by criminal activity. When President Ballina took office | :02:00. | :02:05. | |
just over a year ago he said the war on drugs has failed, and it's | :02:05. | :02:10. | |
time to consider decriminalising them. My guest today on HARDtalk is | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
the newly-appointed Foreign Minister of Guatemala, Fernando | :02:14. | :02:24. | |
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For Fernando Carrera, welcome to HARDtalk. Thank you very much for | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
your invitation. How can a president of a country that has | :02:40. | :02:44. | |
suffered tremendously from drugs now says he wants to see a be | :02:44. | :02:50. | |
regulated drugs market. What we have said so far is not exactly a | :02:50. | :02:53. | |
proposal of how to solve the drugs problem in the world. We have said | :02:53. | :03:01. | |
we should move beyond the war on drugs. And also the prohibition | :03:01. | :03:07. | |
side of it. What we have said is that we should start a global talk | :03:07. | :03:11. | |
on how to change the policy approach to this. The war on drugs | :03:11. | :03:17. | |
has failed, that's very obvious, because the objectives that we have | :03:17. | :03:22. | |
tried to reach over the last 50 years have not been reached. Why do | :03:22. | :03:27. | |
you say that? Statistics, as simple as that. We have very high drug | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
consumption in the world. We have very high levels of the illicit | :03:31. | :03:39. | |
trade. And money laundering and weapons have increased. Few would | :03:39. | :03:46. | |
disagree that the war on drugs has not delivered. But does that mean | :03:46. | :03:50. | |
that the war on drugs is taking the wrong approach? Maybe the policies | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
are right but they have not been implemented probably. That may be | :03:55. | :03:59. | |
the case for 30 years maybe, but not for 50 years. The whole | :03:59. | :04:03. | |
approach of having the idea of the prohibition of drugs, some say Paul | :04:03. | :04:09. | |
Groves, that is the wrong idea. US embassy in Guatemala issued a | :04:09. | :04:14. | |
statement i statement iy last year when the debate started. They said, | :04:14. | :04:18. | |
the case of Colombia shows that strong multilateral commitment to | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
combat narco trafficking and transnational criminal activity can | :04:22. | :04:29. | |
succeed. Violent deaths in Colombia fell by half between 2002 and 2011. | :04:29. | :04:32. | |
With similar political will, other governments can have the same | :04:32. | :04:37. | |
success. Colombia has taken the right steps, and it's bringing | :04:37. | :04:43. | |
results. But not bringing results in reducing drug trafficking. | :04:43. | :04:47. | |
it has brought down violent deaths. The war on drugs is not to reduce, | :04:47. | :04:55. | |
sides, it is to reduce drug consumption. -- homicides. But so | :04:55. | :05:00. | |
much criminal activity is a related to drug abuse. There is a link | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
between drugs and criminal activity and the detrimental effect it has | :05:04. | :05:09. | |
on the country. Colombia is being held up as an example of how to | :05:09. | :05:16. | |
tackle its. That's what I am saying. What is the end? -- tackle it. If | :05:16. | :05:20. | |
it is the reduction of murders we are doing exactly what we want to | :05:20. | :05:27. | |
do in the last three years, we have gone from 40 in 1000 to less than | :05:27. | :05:33. | |
28 this year. We will continue to reduce homicides as the same trend | :05:33. | :05:38. | |
as Colombia has followed -- in the. But what are we trying to do with | :05:38. | :05:43. | |
the war on drugs? Reduce, sides? No. We want to reduce drug consumption | :05:43. | :05:48. | |
all over the world and that's not happening. I will pursue this a bit | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
more because your view here, and the view of the government, is out | :05:51. | :05:56. | |
of step with the region. The new president of Mexico, Enrique | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
Pennetta, said last year, "It is clear that after several years of | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
the fight against drug trafficking we do have more drug consumption | :06:04. | :06:09. | |
and trafficking. But is the state's task to go back to the rule of law | :06:09. | :06:19. | |
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and enforce rules strictly in our One week ago he was... What | :06:20. | :06:25. | |
happened clearly in Santiago, when he was there, five countries in | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
Latin America said they had to discuss drug policy. It is not | :06:29. | :06:34. | |
because it is working, it is because it is failing. It is. But | :06:34. | :06:39. | |
everybody agrees it is failing. Your president at Davos took the | :06:39. | :06:45. | |
stage with the financier, and they both said, things are not working | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
will stop but they don't know how to tackle the problem. They say yes | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
it is not working but they don't know what to-do. A lot of people | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
say, the Americans in particular, that you have got to enforce your | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
laws more strictly. It is a failure of enforcement, not the actual | :07:02. | :07:07. | |
policy. Actually it is not a question of enforcement that we | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
need to follow. The legal system has to be strengthened. That is | :07:11. | :07:17. | |
something we need to work too. I don't think the question of the war | :07:17. | :07:21. | |
on drugs or not the war on drugs should lead us to a different | :07:21. | :07:25. | |
approach. We need to strengthen the legal system. That is part of the | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
general problem. We will talk about that in a moment. We're talking | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
about decriminalising the use of drugs. That's essentially what | :07:34. | :07:39. | |
you're President is saying he wants. We won the deregulation of the | :07:39. | :07:43. | |
drugs markets, that's the whole thing. -- we want. There are two | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
approaches here. The current approach says everything should be | :07:47. | :07:55. | |
prohibited. We should continue prohibiting all drugs. The only way | :07:55. | :08:01. | |
we can tackle the problem is through the legal system, that is | :08:01. | :08:07. | |
the current approach. Let's put it this way, it is a problem of | :08:07. | :08:12. | |
criminal justice. What we're saying, as many others are, it is not a | :08:12. | :08:16. | |
problem of criminal justice. It is a health problem. You need to | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
tackle it with health policies rather than criminal justice | :08:19. | :08:23. | |
activities. What's more important than anything is we're not saying | :08:23. | :08:26. | |
we need to free the market and allow everything to be distributed | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
and consumed, we say we need to regulate the market. There are | :08:31. | :08:36. | |
things we can do to regulate the market which will help us to reduce | :08:36. | :08:40. | |
drug consumption, and reduce violence, and also reduced the size | :08:40. | :08:46. | |
of the illegal markets -- reduce. Few people would disagree with the | :08:46. | :08:49. | |
fact that you can carry out preventativ preventativp | :08:49. | :08:55. | |
drug use and approach it as a health problem. The United States | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
in 2010 put in something like $10 billion into its programme to try | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
to stop people using drugs. It has done this kind of thing over the | :09:03. | :09:06. | |
years and over the last three decades, the use of drugs has gone | :09:06. | :09:11. | |
down by over a third. That's not particularly controversial but what | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
is, and difficult for people to accept, is you say decriminalise | :09:15. | :09:20. | |
the use of drugs. In Portugal, which has done this in 2000, and | :09:20. | :09:25. | |
they say if people are carrying a few grams of cannabis for their own | :09:25. | :09:29. | |
use, we're not going to penalise them. They will say, that's okay. | :09:29. | :09:34. | |
But you know what has happened in Portugal? The use has gone up. | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
went up for the first three years and then it went down and then it | :09:38. | :09:45. | |
went up. It was a whole trend. me just say... When we allow | :09:45. | :09:49. | |
alcohol to be consumed in the US, in the first few years there was | :09:49. | :09:57. | |
and how our -- an increase. scientist at Stanford University in | :09:57. | :10:02. | |
the US has gone on and done a study in Portugal. He says when you | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
decriminalise the use goes up potentially dramatically. You see a | :10:06. | :10:11. | |
doubling of cocaine and heroin use. It's inevitable more people will | :10:11. | :10:20. | |
get hurt. That's a very clear example. The whole problem is that | :10:20. | :10:27. | |
the war on drugs makes us treat the drugs in the same way. It is not | :10:27. | :10:32. | |
all drugs in Portugal decriminalised. The possession of | :10:32. | :10:37. | |
cocaine is still illegal. We're talking about cannabis, which is | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
very specific. The use is what I described, it went down and up and | :10:42. | :10:48. | |
now it is going up again. That is what happened in the US when they | :10:48. | :10:54. | |
legalised in the Thirties and Forties. What we have to study is | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
the type of consumption that we are dealing with. With cocaine, maybe | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
it's a different story. We need to look at the effects on human health | :11:02. | :11:07. | |
and also the effects on the human condition in general. If it | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
produces more criminal activity or less criminal activity. For example | :11:11. | :11:16. | |
for cannabis users, there's very little criminal activity related. | :11:16. | :11:21. | |
But for cocaine users, there's a higher level of that. Not just | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
cocaine but also some derivations from cocaine that could be damaging | :11:25. | :11:31. | |
for people's health. The President has said categorically since he | :11:31. | :11:35. | |
became President 14 months ago that he wants to see a de Regulation, | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
whatever you want to call it, not exactly legalisation and so on. But | :11:39. | :11:43. | |
it sounds like he's making these statements without very clear | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
evidence or a very clear study of what's going on. It sounds like he | :11:47. | :11:51. | |
has made up his mind. He's not initiating a debate but he is | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
saying this is what he thinks should happen because the war on | :11:54. | :11:59. | |
Drax has failed. What do you think of this? -- drugs. There are | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
studies that are saying what we have done so far is not working and | :12:03. | :12:07. | |
that we should look at other options. But he is saying de | :12:07. | :12:11. | |
regulation? The word we are using is the de regulation of trucks | :12:11. | :12:18. | |
markets. -- drugs markets. That is what has been said, that is what | :12:18. | :12:24. | |
was said in Santiago and also Kata Hayne year last year. Are also at | :12:24. | :12:32. | |
the General Assembly. Is that not a bit ambiguous? It is not the | :12:32. | :12:40. | |
regulation or prohibition, it is something in between. Either | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
prohibitionists or the free trade approach people should win. We want | :12:45. | :12:51. | |
regulation, it is a Third Way, combining both things. Some things | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
will be allowed and some things will be decriminalised. What will | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
be allowed? I will give you an example, cannabis. It should almost | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
completely be deregulated. People say it is a gateway to heavier | :13:04. | :13:11. | |
drugs. That is another discussion. The evidence is out there. That's | :13:11. | :13:18. | |
what we have. The gateway for heavier drugs in most countries is | :13:18. | :13:22. | |
not cannabis, it is alcohol actually. Are we going to prohibit | :13:22. | :13:27. | |
alcohol? Are you saying Guatemala wants to see cannabis bought and | :13:27. | :13:33. | |
sold freely and regulated? There's a regulation for that. As we have a | :13:33. | :13:38. | |
regulation for tobacco or alcohol. You have regulated marijuana Fields, | :13:38. | :13:44. | |
is that basically it? The production. The legal production of | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
marijuana and regulated distribution and trade is the same | :13:47. | :13:52. | |
as with alcohol. We don't prohibit sugar-cane, okay? But we produce | :13:52. | :13:58. | |
our Carl and run out of it and we don't prohibit potatoes. -- alcohol. | :13:58. | :14:04. | |
You put cannabis on the same level as our car? Yes, the damage is the | :14:04. | :14:08. | |
same. -- as alcohol. But some studies say that it has more of an | :14:09. | :14:14. | |
impact? I have read enough about these studies! But the professor I | :14:14. | :14:20. | |
spoke about said this. If the US embassy in Guatemala, contributing | :14:20. | :14:25. | |
to the debate you started in your country, said suppose what if the | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
trafficking and use of illegal drugs were decriminalised tomorrow | :14:29. | :14:32. | |
in Central America. They say transnational criminal | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
organisations and gangs would continue to engage in illicit | :14:35. | :14:41. | |
activity, including people trafficking, arms, extortion, | :14:41. | :14:44. | |
kidnapping, theft of international property and money laundering. | :14:44. | :14:49. | |
Crime could increase as drugs cartels shift their forms to other | :14:49. | :14:55. | |
forms of illicit activities -- focus. That is what we are doing. | :14:55. | :15:01. | |
Criminal activities have increased. Illicit drug traffickers are not | :15:01. | :15:07. | |
going to become saints overnight? Your position and what is being | :15:08. | :15:12. | |
said about the US embassy is what is happening now. The result is | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
already there. I don't know why changing the approach would work. | :15:15. | :15:20. | |
They say it would increase crime. What is the point in opening this | :15:20. | :15:24. | |
debate when you know the US is opposed to this kind of move? Joe | :15:25. | :15:28. | |
Biden, the vice-president said in March last year, "A debate is | :15:28. | :15:32. | |
legitimate but you realise there's more problems with legalisation and | :15:32. | :15:37. | |
with none legalisation". I know that's not what you're saying but | :15:37. | :15:47. | |
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President Obama after these moves from Joe Biden was saying that we | :15:59. | :16:05. | |
need to be cautious of this. He went to five countries and heard | :16:05. | :16:10. | |
him say that you have to discuss these policies. Listening to that, | :16:10. | :16:16. | |
President Obama said that we should agree on the studies. What are the | :16:16. | :16:21. | |
options we have? We're going to have a general assembly of the | :16:21. | :16:28. | |
organisation in Guatemala. We are recommendations. The debate has | :16:28. | :16:33. | |
already started. Do you think, for one President said that the US | :16:33. | :16:38. | |
might change his mind. As Obama enters his second term, he could | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
change his mind. There will be a process towards regulation. Is that | :16:42. | :16:52. | |
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what to think? We should discuss options. But the West specifically? | :16:53. | :17:03. | |
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Colorado, Washington State just legalised not just medical | :17:04. | :17:12. | |
consumption. A but also personal use? And enjoyment. They have | :17:12. | :17:17. | |
legalised that in the West. Some states. Two states. That is already | :17:17. | :17:22. | |
a major step. But when President Obama still said in April last year, | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
if we have a large-scale dominating drug trade in countries and they | :17:26. | :17:30. | |
are allowed to operate legally, it could be just as corrupting if not | :17:30. | :17:36. | |
more corrupting than the status quo. America does not seem to be moving | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
towards regulation. There are signs we are receiving from the White | :17:39. | :17:46. | |
House. There has been an evolution. They were thinking that we were | :17:46. | :17:53. | |
trying to say, let us legalise everything. We have never said that. | :17:53. | :17:58. | |
We are not saying that. They have opened their ears to another | :17:58. | :18:03. | |
approach. That is trying to find a common balance. Would they want to | :18:03. | :18:08. | |
describe and what President Obama said very clearly is that we have | :18:08. | :18:13. | |
strict evidence that some of the options are not possible. We're | :18:13. | :18:18. | |
open to listen to that. The reason that Guatemala is very keen to take | :18:18. | :18:23. | |
the lead in this debate is sadly because your country has really | :18:23. | :18:27. | |
suffered from the drug trade. A not just our country, but the whole of | :18:27. | :18:36. | |
Latin America. But as Mexico and Colombia have tightened up their | :18:36. | :18:43. | |
act and as we see gangs moving from Mexico to Guatemala, Guatemala has | :18:43. | :18:48. | |
become a major transit point. Particularly for cocaine smuggling. | :18:48. | :18:52. | |
Something like 400 tons of cocaine transported from Guatemala every | :18:52. | :19:00. | |
year. I am saying it does not come to Guatemala from nowhere. It comes | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
from Colomb from Colomb all the way around Central America up | :19:05. | :19:11. | |
to Mexico into the United States. When it crosses the Rio Grande | :19:11. | :19:16. | |
border, it is not illicit drugs. It is just drugs. That is a funny | :19:16. | :19:20. | |
thing. We have illicit trade coming all the way from Peru to Mexico. | :19:20. | :19:27. | |
Once he gets into the US, there are no gangs are organised crime. It is | :19:27. | :19:32. | |
something that we question. We have an entire trade problem that stops | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
and the West. It starts in modern countries and it moves into the | :19:36. | :19:43. | |
south. We're caught in the middle. You are caught in the middle, but | :19:43. | :19:53. | |
Guatemala is a paradise for criminal activity. We have captured | :19:53. | :20:02. | |
people. I'll give the evidence. President says that drug | :20:02. | :20:05. | |
traffickers have been able to penetrate institutions in this | :20:05. | :20:09. | |
country by employing the resources and money. We're talking about | :20:09. | :20:13. | |
security forces, prosecutors and judges. This is your own President | :20:13. | :20:20. | |
saying there has been this infiltration. We are moving. This | :20:20. | :20:24. | |
is the photograph of where we are today. In the past three years we | :20:24. | :20:29. | |
have been able to achieve certain things. We have been able to reform | :20:29. | :20:33. | |
the police so that we have was corruption in the system. We have | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
tried to strengthen the Attorney- General's Office so that | :20:37. | :20:44. | |
prosecution becomes protected from corruption. The third person that | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
is working on this is the Ministry of government -- Minister of | :20:49. | :20:55. | |
Interior Security. He is using all of his power. We are getting | :20:55. | :20:59. | |
control of certain things. Four of the major drug cartel leaders have | :20:59. | :21:06. | |
been put in prison. We are really strengthening the system. The scale | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
of the problem is enormous. 40% of your territory is in the hands of | :21:11. | :21:19. | |
the criminal gangs. We have what we call corridors. They do not control | :21:19. | :21:24. | |
large territories. They control certain corridors. That is where | :21:24. | :21:31. | |
they have drugs or illegal roads. That is what they used to traffic. | :21:31. | :21:35. | |
We are a transit place. We do not produce or consume drugs. We are a | :21:35. | :21:44. | |
transit place. It looks like there is chaos. There is no chaos. I am | :21:44. | :21:49. | |
not saying there is chaos. But for example if you look at the words of | :21:49. | :21:54. | |
someone from the book institute from the vice-president of Costa | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
Rica, you would know that he wrote that Guatemala is in between a rock | :21:58. | :22:03. | |
and a hard place. He only wrote this in September 2011. He said he | :22:03. | :22:07. | |
was time to shed the pretext that Guatemala's institutions will be | :22:07. | :22:14. | |
able to prevent the country from becoming a narcotics state. That is | :22:14. | :22:18. | |
a discussion I have had. The question is how we protect the | :22:18. | :22:24. | |
legal system and the democratic system from corruption and illicit | :22:24. | :22:30. | |
drugs. That comes from political campaigns on the one hand. Not only | :22:30. | :22:34. | |
at the national level, but at the local level. Countries where there | :22:34. | :22:43. | |
is trafficking or potential trafficking. Local authorities. | :22:43. | :22:48. | |
Also the question about what you are describing. And that culture of | :22:48. | :22:58. | |
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impunity. 90% of crimes are not punished in Guatemala. It is from a | :22:58. | :23:03. | |
low base. I have been to Guatemala. You can go into cafe and you will | :23:03. | :23:08. | |
see an armed guard. Private security guards outnumber the state | :23:08. | :23:12. | |
police by seven to one. You have got bus drivers in their hundreds | :23:12. | :23:17. | |
been killed because they have to pay extortionists. You have got a | :23:18. | :23:23. | |
huge problem on your hands there. We are trying to diminish the size | :23:23. | :23:30. | |
of the challenge. Where are you moving to? In the past three years | :23:30. | :23:35. | |
we have been applying things. presidency is that she wants 10,000 | :23:35. | :23:41. | |
more police and 2,500 more military troops. Have you got those already? | :23:41. | :23:47. | |
The work started this year. We thought we had a number of police | :23:47. | :23:54. | |
that was close to 25,000. It was less. Once we started to clean up | :23:54. | :23:59. | |
the police, the number of police went down. That is where we started | :23:59. | :24:07. | |
to get trips. We know the solution is not to give the military. The | :24:07. | :24:12. | |
solution in the long-term is to strengthen the police. We are | :24:12. | :24:17. | |
increasing the number. We have already founded a police academy | :24:17. | :24:24. | |
that did not exist. They have basic training for police. Now we are | :24:24. | :24:29. | |
trying to develop the police academy for the higher ranks. The | :24:29. | :24:32. | |
way are you going to get the money to do all of this? Guatemala has | :24:32. | :24:38. | |
not been a proper functioning state. Only 11% of your GDP comes from | :24:38. | :24:43. | |
taxation. You have a population of about 15 million, 53% living in | :24:43. | :24:48. | |
poverty. Large parts of the country have no investment. The state is | :24:48. | :24:51. | |
not functioning polling. Is a country turning a po | :24:51. | :24:55. | |
you're going to start collecting money and have proper investment? | :24:55. | :25:02. | |
By all means, that is what we did last year. The tax reform will | :25:02. | :25:08. | |
increase. It will increase the capacity 1.5% of GDP. That will | :25:08. | :25:14. | |
allow us to expand security functions. Are you turning a point? | :25:14. | :25:20. | |
This is what we are moving towards. A few weeks ago there was an | :25:20. | :25:25. | |
article that expressed that we are moving towards a different approach. | :25:25. | :25:35. | |
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A different scenario. Thank you for Later this week it will be getting | :25:48. | :25:53. | |
brighter. Later this week it will be milder. We are not there yet. | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
Between now and then, some of us will deal with more snow. Not so | :25:57. | :26:01. | |
much in the day ahead. It is pretty quiet. Plenty of dry winter, | :26:01. | :26:04. | |
despite the cloud. From the cloud across southern areas, parts of | :26:04. | :26:09. | |
Wales and Northern Ireland, still a few light sleet and snow flurries. | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
There are some wintry showers to the north-east of the United | :26:12. | :26:19. | |
Kingdom. The Midlands is likely to be cold and grey to start the day. | :26:19. | :26:22. | |
Across north-east England and eastern Scotland, right across the | :26:22. | :26:25. | |
coast, some sleet and showers. Probably coldest across the | :26:25. | :26:32. | |
Highlands. The best of the brightness in western Scotland. A | :26:32. | :26:40. | |
good deal of cloud. Across parts of Wales into parts of south-west | :26:40. | :26:43. | |
England and southern England generally, where the cloud is | :26:43. | :26:50. | |
thickest you may encounter some of those sleet and snow flurries. It | :26:50. | :26:54. | |
is a cold feel. The cold enhanced is a cold feel. The cold enhanced | :26:54. | :26:58. | |
by that cloud cover. Particularly where you have got some lying snow | :26:58. | :27:05. | |
from the start of the week. That is how it is to begin the day. As we | :27:05. | :27:09. | |
go on through the day, there is no dramatic change. The best of the | :27:09. | :27:12. | |
sunshine will come through in western Scotland. Most will keep a | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
good deal of cloud. Some of these wintery showers towards the north- | :27:15. | :27:22. | |
east. With all that could across us, it does not do anything for the | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
temperature. Tuesday evening, there may be some more generous breaks in | :27:26. | :27:34. | |
the cloud. We will get some cold weather. Temperatures in towns and | :27:34. | :27:42. | |
cities close to freezing. Plenty of cold air in place as Wednesday | :27:42. | :27:46. | |
begins. Another weather system comes in from the Atlantic. Running | :27:46. | :27:52. | |
into the cold air, we could see some snow. Snow building up as far | :27:52. | :28:01. | |
south as the Midlands later in the day. The most significant snow will | :28:01. | :28:05. | |
be in Scotland. Significant snow drifting on the strong winds in | :28:06. | :28:08. | |
Scotland. Eventually that wet weather will get in. It does | :28:08. | :28:12. |