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Hello and welcome to BBC Parliament's live coverage from the

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House of Commons. In an owl we have an urgent question on the

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Government's way strategy. That will be followed by his statement

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from the Health Secretary on the Government's agreement to change

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its controversial plans for the NHS in England. The revisions stem from

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an independent review. The main business in the Chamber today will

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be the committee stage of the Armed Forces Bill. Every five years, new

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legislation has to be passed to renew the legal basis for the Army,

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Navy and RAF. Do join me for a round-up of the day in both houses

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of parliament in The Record at 11 o'clock tonight. First, we have

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questions to the Foreign Secretary, William Hague, and his ministerial

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team. We will be crossing to the House of Commons in a few moments

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Order, order. Questions to the Secretary of State for Foreign and

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Commonwealth Affairs, Margaret Curran. Christian number one.

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Speaker, with permission I will answer a question 12 with this one.

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Membership by the UN is one option under consideration by President

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Abass. We believe Israelis and Palestinians should return to

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negotiations and will only make a statement on UN membership at the

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appropriate time. Can I thank the Secretary of State for his answer.

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Time and time again, you have said if you are in favour of an

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independent Palestinian state based on 1967 borders. Surely, the time

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is now right to show solidarity with the Palestinians, support them

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at the United Nations and prove once and for all we are on the

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Palestinians' sighed. We have learnt a great deal of support to

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the Palestinians at the United Nations and as the honourable lady

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will know we voted in February for the Palestinian resolution on

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settlements. We bedded the opposite way to the United States on that

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occasion which is unusual for this country -- we voted the opposite

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way. We strongly support a state based on 1967 borders. We have to

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remember the real way to a viable and secure estate is through

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negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians and it is to those

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negotiations we want both parties to return. Mr Speaker, I am

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disappointed with the Foreign Secretary's answer. We will wait

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for ever. President Obama made self determination the focus of his

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speech to the Middle East and reference to the people who are

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struggling for freedom in the Arab world. Does this not also apply to

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the Palestinians and would UN membership take it a step forward?

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The honourable lady would have to be disappointed with the position

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of all European countries because we have all withheld the decision

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on the question of Palestinian membership of the United Nations.

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It is vital to remember that the way to a secure Israel and a viable

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and prosperous Palestinian state is through negotiations between the

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two. She's quite right to be frustrated and exasperated at the

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length of time negotiations have taken. However, there is no other

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way to lasting peace than through those negotiations. Will the

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Foreign Secretary impress upon the Israeli government that the only

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manner by which they can avoid an overwhelming vote in favour of a

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Palestinian state at the General Assembly would be if the Israeli

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Prime Minister is able to give an unequivocal commitment in support

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of the two state solution as proposed by President Obama and to

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seek to enter into meaningful negotiations towards that end?

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agree with that. I think my right honourable friend was right. It is

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very important now for Israel to show a readiness to negotiate in

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light of the president's speech and in light also of what could happen

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at the United Nations in September. Indeed, one of the advantages for

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the United Kingdom's and other EU nations, of considering our

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position on this over the next few months, is it will maximise the

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pressure on both Israelis and Palestinians to be prepared to

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enter such negotiations. Does my right honourable friend agree that

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an essential feature of state could is identifiable and recognised

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borders? Therefore can he confirm there will be no compromise on the

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principle that any settlement must be based on the borders of 1967?

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right honourable friend on air that what the President of the United

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States has said about the 1967 borders and what we have always

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said his we mean 1967 borders with mutually agreed swaps of land. I do

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not think we can be as categoric as my right honourable friend was

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trying to be. But based on those borders, there would be subject to

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agreement, a good deal of latitude around them. What is the Secretary

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of State's current assessment of moves towards Palestinian unity?

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Does the reconciliation process between Fatah and Hamas make it

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more or less likely that the United Kingdom will support UN membership

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for Palestine? The stance we take on that, come September, if it

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comes to that point, will depend on many things. It is very important

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that the reformed Palestinian Authority, and we still wait to see

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many of the appointment to it, are halved non- violence, that they are

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committed to a negotiated to state solution and they uphold the

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previous agreements of the PLO. Those will be factors by which we

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judge the Palestinian approach. Peace cannot be imposed on the

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parties to the conflicts, no vote in the United Nations will ever

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create a Palestinian state. Mark my words, the words of President Obama.

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Isn't it the case that moving too quickly towards an individual state

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had, and what we should be doing is seeking the two parties to

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negotiate together towards an agreement? My honourable friend

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will have heard that I have, in answers to these questions, placed

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our own emphasis on that. There is a need to return to negotiations by

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both sides and now President Obama has made his speech about 1967

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borders, I hope Palestinians will take that approach and we have

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already talked about the Israeli approach. Question number three.

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Speaker, with permission, I will answer a number 7 with this

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question. Thanks to the international navies and the self-

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defence measures used by large sectors of industry, there will be

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no hijacks -- there are no hijacks of the area since 2010. However,

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piracy continues to pose a threat to shipping and seafarers in the

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Indian Ocean. We are not complacent and Britain is playing a leading

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role in the counter piracy operations at sea and we are

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leading work to put in place penal punishments to deal with this.

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is aware of the role of many British service personnel in the

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shipping of Somalia but does he agree that fundamentally, it is

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only when Somalia has a high degree of law and order, which it does not

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have at the moment, that the problems will be properly solved?

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Mr Speaker, that is exactly why we are putting so much effort into

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helping to rebuild this failed state. DFID have a four year

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programme for Somalia. That will focus on building regional,

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judicial and penal structures, struggling -- strengthening the

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police, strengthening the coastguard and trying to find

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alternative livelihoods. This problem will only be solved on the

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land. I would like to thank the Minister for his response. One of

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the issues is we do need to have a deterrent for piracy. Currently,

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the British Chamber of Commerce is stating that 80 % of those who are

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captured are actually then released. What measures can we put in place

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and would he be able to expand on the international agreements that

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we need to counter piracy? Speaker, I share my honourable

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friend's concerns because catch and release encourages further piracy.

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I recently visited the EU naval headquarters and the Armed Forces

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Minister made it very clear that both the Royal Navy and other

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navies I doing all they possibly can, not just to capture pirates

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but to gather sufficient evidence so they can be put on trial in

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courts in the region. That is why I am working hard with the Foreign

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Secretary with regional countries to build that vital penal and

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judicial capacity. I regret that the Minister's reply is rather

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complacent. At a conference in Singapore last month, the Defence

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Secretary would have heard several defence ministers expressed alarm

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at the considerable rise in piracy in the Indian Ocean. Suggestions

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have included greater convoys and more importantly, changed and

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toughened rules of engagement and also possibly exclusion zones. The

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international community is united on the need that this must be

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brought to a head. As a major maritime nation, when will the

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Government get a grip and take a lead to combat this menace,

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particularly in getting international agreement and change

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rules of engagement? Mr Speaker, I can understand the honourable

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gentleman's frustration. As I have explained, there has not been a

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successful hijack in the Gulf of Aden this year and we are having

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significant success has. The EU agreed in May to amend its

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operation planned to deliver more robust action. I cannot discuss

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this publicly but that is that largely the result of evidence from

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the Foreign Secretary and I can assure him we are very much on the

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case. Question number four. welcome Croatia's progress towards

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EU membership and the arrest of Bosnian Serb Ratko Mladic. We are

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seriously concerned by the situation in Bosnia-Herzegovina

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where there remains a need for sustained EU focus. They also

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remains major work to be done on the dialogue between Serbia and

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Kosovo, to resolve the issue over Macedonia's name and ensuring a

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functioning political dialogue in Albania. At the recent NATO

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parliamentary assembly, the noble Lord Sewell reported a draft report

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on Kosovo which described a dire economy with weak institutions,

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ethnically divided with corruption and organised crime and poor

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relations with its neighbours. It has not been universally recognised

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as a state. Does the Foreign Secretary believe that Kosovo will

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one day be a viable European I do believe it will be. We have

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been encouraging other nations to recognise Kosovo. It is important

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work now takes place on economic development, the rule of law, in

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particular with regard to the IMF programmes. It is important to

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comply with the IMF. Could I welcome the arrest of red comb that

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Not Britain's finest hour of foreign policy. As we move forward

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in the Balkans, when he moves forward in urging responsible for

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Serb politicians to recognised Kosovo, to stop the blocks to

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Kosovo joining international institutions. Serbia will not allow

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it to progress. A I went to Belgrade last summer up to discuss

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these issues with the President and urged him in to enter into an EU

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facilitated dialogue with Kosovo. That was the essential first step

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towards what the right honourable gentleman is talking about. He

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agreed to do that and I now urge both governments to engage with

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each other constructively with goodwill on both sides, dialogue

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can help move both states to EU accession. Would my right

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honourable friend agree with me that the scourge of organised crime

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in the Balkans is one of the biggest obstacles to good politics

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developing there? Yes, absolutely. It will be extremely important to

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tackle those things in order to maintain that the European

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prospective of the Western Balkan countries. That is why, for

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instance in Croatian accession negotiations, is of such vital

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importance. Can I ask the Secretary of State if he believes that the

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membership of Croatia of the European Union would act as an

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effective catalyst for other member states? Would you like to offer a

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timescale on this? We hope it will be an encouragement to other states.

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We hope they will also have drawn the lesson that it is important to

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me to the conditions of EU membership. That is vital for the

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accession process to have credibility. We are in the closing

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stages of negotiation of EU accession. There had been a

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positive recommendation from the commission and it will be discussed

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at the European Council next week. To discussed dates ahead of that

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would be premature. Demands for greater political, social and

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economical parties will continue. Through our Arab Partnership

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Initiative, the review of the European neighbourhood policy we

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are working with partners in the region to support those who seek

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political and economic reforms. I thank the Secretary of State for

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his answer. Could I ask him, given recent months we have seen a number

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of occasion worth government access to the internet during protests has

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been limited come up what moves have the British Government taking

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to organise peaceful demonstrations online. We do, wherever we can, we

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also has -- always support access to the internet. One of the

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measures set out in our draft resolution before the United

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Nations Security Council on Syria is seeking freedom of access to the

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Internet. We do sometimes also take practical measures in order to try

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to maintain access to the internet or give people advice as to how

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they can do so. I do not want to give any technical details of that

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as it would make it easier for them. The flow of information from

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organisations like the BBC World Service, the Foreign office has had

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a look at the Budget for the BBC World Service, when are we likely

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to get an answer on that? Government has taken full note on

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the debate that has taken place in this House two or three weeks ago

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calling for a review of that position. We're looking at this

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subject along with the World Service also looking at their

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allocation of priorities. I think by early July will be able to come

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back to the House. Mr Speaker, given the popular protests in North

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Africa and the Middle East, this side of the House has been arguing

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that the European Union's external action of the Budget should be read

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balanced. Following the announcement of which the Foreign

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Secretary spoke, can he tell us if he feels the European Union

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contribution is adequate to the challenge and the risks? And what

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proportion of that money is actually new money? It is really

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the money available for development and economic partnership that is

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the crucial thing rather than the budgeting of the external action

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service. The proposal published on 25th May by the commission set out

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a plan which included 750 million euros of additional resource for

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the EU to work with the economies of North Africa. That is subject of

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further discussion at the European Council next week. Let me ask about

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one country in particular, Libya. On 13th April this year the Foreign

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Secretary told us the United Nations should take forward lead

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planning for our early recovery of peace building in Libya. Last

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Tuesday, a tour this House that Britain is in the lead of post

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conflict planning. Given his statement last week that planning

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is only at an embryonic stage, can the Foreign Secretary tell us who

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is responsible for post conflict planning? Is that the United

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Kingdom, the United Nations or the European Union? The Right

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Honourable of Gen Tom Allen is bringing together several

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conflicting subjects. -- the right honourable gentleman. They are

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doing a lot of that work for post Colonel Gadaffi. We are in the lead

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in that looking, in detail, at stabilisation response.

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Destabilisation response team has been there, they are now writing

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their report, but we have been working with Italy, and Turkey. The

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UN will have that responsibility for co-ordination of Humanitarian

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Assistance and for the future, but Britain has taken the lead on

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putting people on the ground and doing the thinking. Will the

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Foreign Secretary take up the case of the young woman who is in prison

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for a reading a poem about freedom? Yes, of course we take up and we

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expressed to the Bahrain authorities the need for universal

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respect for human rights. Including for due process. That is what we

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look to them to bring about in the judicial process. I have strongly

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expressed that a view myself to the Crown Prince of Bahrain. Question

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number six, Mr Speaker. We have made direct representations on a

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number of occasions and of course we continue to condemn the

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imprisonment of opposition politicians in Belarus as well as

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the persecution and harassment of civil society leaders and human

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rights defenders. The President's administration is responsible for a

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series of enterprises and those profits are kept within the

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presidential administration including the KGB. Due to these

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clear, close financial links between state oppression and these

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enterprises isn't it time that the UK looked at prohibiting British

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trade and investment with these companies? As the honourable lady

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knows, we together with our European Union partners have agreed

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at a set of sanctions targeted against leading members of the

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regime in Belarus. There is also a review of the possibility of

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additional economic sanctions. Not every EU country has expressed

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itself in favour of that. We also have to take account of the need to

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get the balance right between harming the regime and are not

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trying to impoverish a a people who are already oppressed. The Minister

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will be aware that in light of its economic failures, Belarus has

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requested for the �5 billion bail- out from the IMF. What discussions

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has he had with the Treasury that Britain will not support a bail-out

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package unless it comes with a firm commitment from the Belarus regime

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to recognise the basic rights of freedom of its civilians.

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honourable friend puts her. Well. As she rightly says, the economy of

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the Belarus is in a a dire state. The economic as well as the

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internally repressive policies of the Government are making a bad

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situation worse for the people of that country. We are considering,

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both internally within the United Kingdom and with international

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partners, what our approach might be in the event that Belarus were

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to apply for a further help from the IMF. No. Eight, Mr Speaker.

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believe the relationship between the interim government and the

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growing number of political parties in Tunisia is a stable one as we

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head to elections in October. There are challenges, partly the

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technical arrangements for a nationwide election and partly the

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economic challenges the company -- country faces. We believe the

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building blocks for a democracy will be in place. I am grateful, Mr

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Speaker. Given the unique history of Tunisia as probably being the

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most progressive country in North Africa, it could act as a beacon of

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hope, yet there are reports of interference from fundamentalists

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in the Tunisian, or the proposed Tunisian process. What further help

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can the Government gave to the democratic forces within Tunisia?

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The honourable gentleman's caution is well-balanced and understood. It

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is right to recognise the good things that are happening, he is

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right about the background of Tunisia. We have already committed

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about �1.5 million of the original �5 million of the Arab partnership

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to work in capacity building, strengthening political

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institutions and working on issues like that as we head towards the

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election. There will be more money available through the partnership

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but we are looking to swap expertise and build up the

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embryonic political parties in the areas we would -- he would expect

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us to be involved. Can I congratulate the Foreign office to

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set up the fund to enable parties are Peter's to help the emerging

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political forces in Tunisia to march towards democracy. It is

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important not to overlook the moderate states alongside who have

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not had a revolution, but are doing the right thing and moving towards

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democracy. We should be supporting them as well. Yes, and my

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honourable friend is absolutely right and we will do. Relationships

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with Morocco and Jordan are a good. They have put themselves in a

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position where they appear to be ahead of the curve by responding to

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the aspirations of that people in an appropriate manner. We are

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looking to WFD to deliver quite substantially in relation to their

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obligations. It is a heavy responsibility to help political

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parties develop and play an important part. The Minister will

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also be aware of the growing humanitarian pressures on the

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border between Tunisia and Libya. What offers of assistance at the

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technical our financial have been offered to address issues of clean

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water and sanitation access in that region? We are very conscious of

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these pressures. Most of them are being absorbed by the Tunisian

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people themselves. It is remarkable how many families have taken into

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their own homes those who have been fleeing from neighbouring Bolivia.

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-- neighbouring area. Millions of pounds have been committed to this

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and we will continue to support and assist them. Number nine, Mr

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Speaker. The Foreign and Commonwealth office does not

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provide financial assistance for legal costs of British citizens

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arrested overseas. We provide information about the local legal

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system, including whether a legal- aid system is available. We can

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also provide a list of local, English-speaking lawyers and we

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work with non-government organisations he may be able to

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offer support. The Minister will be aware of the plight of and it --

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constituent of mine, Stephen scarlet he remains in prison in

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Senegal today despite the fact that his sentence ended this year. His

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family has been unable to get any financial support tonight it --

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navigate the local system. Does he not agree with me that in such

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extreme cases, the needs of these I understand the distress felt by

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the man and his family at the length of time the case is taking

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to resolve and he has been assisted by the British Embassy in back car

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and the Foreign and Commonwealth Office as a whole. However, the

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responsibility for ensuring Mr Scarlett receives the best outcome

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lies with his lawyer. There are three groups which insist British

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citizens and we are aware that Fair trials International have offered

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their services to Mr Scarlett's family. Question Number Ten. Mr

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Speaker, DFID Spence �73 million in Israel and the occupied Palestinian

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territories on a range of measures promoting peace through the

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conflict prevention pull and through economic development. This

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year the Foreign Office is spending �70,000 on the co-existence

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projects which range from language development two courses and work

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inside Israel itself to help bind communities together. According to

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answers to ministerial questions in January, only 1% of EU aid to the

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Palestinians goes on civil society projects. What is the Government

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doing to ensure a greater proportion of EU aid is spent on

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developing co-existence projects which are so vital to the peace

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process? The honourable gentleman is right in terms of the proportion

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being spent which I picked out for the answer which I have just given

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him. I think sometimes it is difficult to separate category by

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category in that I expect an amount of work which goes into promotion

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of Palestinian economic developments, some �30 million, for

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example, goes into work which feeds into prosperity issues and co-

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existence issues. We are very open in the Foreign and Commonwealth

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Office to more applications coming in on these types of projects and I

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will certainly be looking to see what more we can do to encourage

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what he has spoken about. Will the Government make it clear to the

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Israeli government that an attack on any future humanitarian flotilla

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would be met by international condemnation? We are talking about

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co-existence projects and joint business initiatives. I believe, Mr

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Speaker, we would be right in saying we would be looking to the

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reopening of the crossing in Gaza to help both economic development

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and encourage the co-existence that would be necessary because the

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greater the economic development in the West Bank and Gaza, the more

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opportunity there is for both and the less need there is for anyone

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to be attempting a flotilla to bring produce in law-making eight

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point. Question number 11. totally deplore any company

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operating anywhere in the world that ignores basic human rights. It

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is especially important that companies that the highest possible

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standards when operating in failed states or conflict zones. That is

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why we support the excellent work carried out by the UN's expert on

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human rights, and we particularly welcome the final version of his

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guiding principles which deals with the subject. I wonder if he might

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go little further, giving the effect that legal protections could

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have on the lives of ordinary people in countries like Korea,

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Indonesia, Mexico, indeed, it even the Israeli occupied Palestinian

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territories, where they have been cases of abuse, torture and

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killings where citizens have protested against large-scale

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private sector projects. Will the Government indicate to the House

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that they are supporting the recommendations of Professor John

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Roby who recommended the Government explore greater protections for

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victims of abuse in conflict situations. I had the chance to

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meet the professor the other day and I am working very hard to

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ensure the guiding principles are actually incorporated and endorsed

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by the UN's human Rights Council in Geneva because that will give them

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extra cloud and accountability. Question number 13. I last met

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Secretary Clinton on the eve of President Obama's visit and we had

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a range of discussions including the situation in Afghanistan.

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he tell us that the discussions touched on the prospect of British

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troops remaining in Afghanistan post 2014 and how many and with

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what remit exactly? Yes, such matters are included in our talks

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but are also a matter of our public policy position. As we have said,

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British troops will not be engaged in a combat role after 2015, nor in

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anything like the numbers they are today. We have set out our

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intentions in line with the prospect and aims for transition to

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Afghan security control throughout Afghanistan by 2014. Given that it

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is highly unusual to set the withdrawal date in the middle of a

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counter insurgency campaign, has my right honourable friend received

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any indication from the Americans that they are considering the

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retention of a long-term strategic base or bridgehead area in the

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region, so that real pressure can be exerted on both sides to reach

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an appropriate settlement? long-term relationship, the

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relationship after the insurgency, if you like, and after a transition

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in 2014 between United States and Afghanistan, is subject to

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negotiation at the moment between the United States and Afghanistan.

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It is not possible at the moment to give a precise answer to the

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question of my honourable friend but it is matter to say it -- it is

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possible to say such matters are under discussion. Last week,

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members of the Home Affairs Select Committee visited the borders of

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Greece and Turkey and the detention centre where we were told 15,000

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afghanis had crossed the border between Turkey and Greece last year.

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Could the Foreign Secretary, in his discussions with the Americans,

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talk about the mass migration, the illegal migration, of hundreds of

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thousands of afghanis from Afghanistan into Western Europe?

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think the right honourable gentleman makes an important point.

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It underlines the need to bring stability to Afghanistan in the

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future so that those who wish to be in Afghanistan can have their homes

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and livelihoods there. I will certainly give attention to the

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point he raises. Given that the Taliban will not be beaten, and

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that the situation does not seem to be getting a better, does the

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Foreign Secretary agree or can I press upon the Foreign Secretary

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again, the need for the Americans to open meaningful unconditional

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talks with the Taliban. The Americans need to realise that as

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week proved in Northern Ireland, you can talk and fight at the same

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time. I think that well -- that point was well understood.

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Secretary Clinton called for a political surge alongside the

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military said and that is very much in line with the approach of our

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own country as well. Of course, that is the case. At the same time,

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the other thing that is changing and my honourable friend should

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give credit for, is the huge expansion and intensive training of

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the Afghan security forces and that bodes well for the longer term.

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Question number 14. We are deeply concerned by reports that a number

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of protesters have been killed and injured. We recognise Israel's

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right to defend herself. Any response must be proportionate,

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avoiding legal use of force and the right to process -- protest must be

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respected. I call on all parties to do what they can to protect the

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lives of civilians and avoid provocative acts. I thank the

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Secretary of State for his answer but what does this incident tell us

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about wider involvement in Syria and the handling of protest and

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unrest? I'm not sure what this instant tells us in itself about

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international involvement in Syria. Certainly, I believe Iran is

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engaged in giving direct support to Syria in the suppression of

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peaceful protest, both in terms of advice and technical equipment to

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enable them to do so. An extraordinarily hypocritical

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position given Iran's support for protest elsewhere in the Arab world.

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I cannot say this is connected with this particular incident but since

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the area of the Golan Heights is under direct control of the Syrian

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authorities, people can draw their own conclusions. Does the Foreign

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Secretary agree that the recent incidents at the Syrian Israeli

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border were organised by the Syrian government in an attempt to

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distract attention from their brutal internal dealing with their

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own rebellions? I don't think I want to add to what has said a

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moment ago about that. It is a remarkably convenient distraction

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from the point of view of the Syrian government. This requires

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both sides, both Israel in its response to such provocations and

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Syria in any role it may play in such provocations, to exercise much

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greater restraint. On the point of fact, have there been any Syrian

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protests on the Israeli border? I thought the protests were in the

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Golan Heights which last time I look, where Syrian territory,

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illegally occupied by Israel. than hikes are occupied territory -

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- Thurgoland heights but the territory on the other side that no

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one can dispute it is under the operational control of Syria and

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that is the point I am making. Question number 15. When I went to

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Benghazi I was impressed by the progress being made, the sense of

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optimism and the plans for a democratic future. The Gaddafi

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regime is isolated and on the defensive. Through a combination of

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military, economic and diplomatic means, we are ramping up the

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pressure for a genuine political solution for the Libyan people.

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thank the Foreign Secretary for that answer. Does he not agree with

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me that the further defections from the high level of the Gaddafi

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regime, a further loss of ground to the opposition forces and the

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growing authority of the transitional camps all point to a

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squeeze on the Gaddafi regime? my honourable friend sums up the

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situation very well. All of those are increasing pressures on the

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regime. A high-level defections included a number of generals, the

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head of the state owned National Oil Corporation and we believe

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there are many others who would defect if they could safely do so

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or of their families would not be under threat if they did so.

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Certainly, the morale of the regime is much reduced from some weeks or

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months ago. As I saw for myself, the morale and organisation of the

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National Transitional Council has improved considerably. With the

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Foreign Secretary confirm once and for all that Britain's military,

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economic and political involvement in Libya is for regime change and

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because of that it has been possible for any traction to be

:39:19.:39:24.

brought about by the EU, NATO and Britain, to bring about an urgent

:39:24.:39:27.

political solution and a ceasefire to save any more lives before the

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war get worse? Our military role is defined by a UN Resolution 1973. It

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is our implementation of that resolution that has saved thousands

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of lives. If we had not had that resolution, I know the honourable

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gentleman is an opponent of that resolution, if we had not had it,

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far more people would have died so far in this situation in Libya. If

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it is additionally true that we believe Colonel Gaddafi should go.

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But that is the belief of the vast majority of nations in the world,

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even so many around Africa as well and even Russia at the G8 Summit.

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And as I saw in Benghazi, of vast numbers of Libyans as well.

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Question Number 16. The Syrian government continues to use

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unacceptable violence against pro- democracy protesters. Syrian

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security forces have launched an offensive. There are reports of a

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military build up in other towns in Syria including overnight in

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eastern Syria. There are credible reports that more than 1,000 people

:40:33.:40:37.

have been killed since the beginning of protests. This

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violence is unacceptable and it should stop. I thank the Foreign

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Secretary for that answer but ask him as well if there has been any

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progress in getting the Red Cross to access civilians who have been

:40:49.:40:56.

attacked by the military in Syria? That is a good question. Sadly, the

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answer is no. My right honourable friend discussed this with the

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President of the International Committee with the Red Cross a few

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days ago and one of the things we have called on the Syrian

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government to grant his humanitarian access. This remains a

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prime consideration and something I will discuss tonight with the

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Turkish Foreign Minister what more can be done in working with Turkey,

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Syria's closest and most important neighbour, in terms of diplomatic

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relationships, in order to try to be swayed the Syrians to grant such

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The United Kingdom has a strong relationship with Japan

:41:39.:41:42.

encompassing long-standing commercial, cultural and official

:41:42.:41:47.

ties. These relations have been enhanced in recent months with the

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visit of the Japanese Foreign Minister to London and the Business

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Secretary to Japan. I plan to visit Japan next month to for the develop

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the relationship. I thank the Minister for his response. Can the

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Minister of date the House on what the UK is doing to support British

:42:03.:42:08.

businesses that work in and with Japan, particularly ensuring that

:42:08.:42:12.

supply chains operate effectively? The honourable member makes a

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valuable point. There are literally thousands of people in Britain

:42:16.:42:21.

whose jobs depend on either direct inward investment of Japan or in

:42:21.:42:27.

related jobs associated with direct inward investment. About 17,000

:42:27.:42:31.

Britons work in Japan. We constantly turn our attention to

:42:31.:42:38.

how we can deepen the commercial relations between our two countries.

:42:38.:42:48.
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They are the third and the sixth biggest economy is in the world. In

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addition to the many situations we have already discussed, I am

:42:52.:42:55.

concerned by the worsening situation in sedans. We call upon

:42:55.:43:00.

all parties to cease hostilities and returned to the negotiations.

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We're working with the African Union very closely to support the

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peace negotiations currently under way us. Can I asked the Foreign

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Secretary, further to that, when he would expect those negotiations to

:43:15.:43:20.

resume and what action the British Government intends to take?

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special representative is involved, intimately involved in those

:43:27.:43:32.

negotiations. I spoke to the former President a few days ago who is

:43:32.:43:38.

leading the conduct of those negotiations. I have also spoken to

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the south Sudanese president and to the Foreign Minister -- Foreign

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Minister of the North. We are highly active in trying to push for

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a solution, including working with Ethiopia us. It is not possible to

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say when that will happen, but real progress needs to be shown before

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the ninth of of July which is the date for the independence of south

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Sudan. The whole House will be aware of reports that over 5,000

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Syrian refugees have registered on the border of Turkey and many more

:44:14.:44:19.

are poised to flee the country. I welcome the statement the Foreign

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Secretary has just made informing of the House that he will be

:44:22.:44:26.

speaking to the newly elected Turkey government on the situation

:44:26.:44:30.

in Syria. How hard will he be pressing for that country to step

:44:30.:44:37.

up its regional leadership role in relation to Syria, in particular.

:44:37.:44:42.

will of course be doing that and the Prime Minister has already

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spoken to the Prime Minister of Turkey. Turkey plays ace -- strong,

:44:49.:44:53.

leading a regional role and has made many efforts in recent weeks,

:44:53.:45:00.

despite their own election campaign, to persuade them regime that to

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adopt a different course. I am sure they will want to redouble their

:45:04.:45:08.

efforts given the situation on their border. I would strongly

:45:08.:45:18.
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encourage them to do so. The whole House will share the concern of

:45:20.:45:25.

many British nationals at the spread of violence and unrest in

:45:25.:45:31.

the Sudan and welcomed the Secretary of State updating us on

:45:31.:45:41.
:45:41.:45:43.

the situation as it presently stands. Just to add to what my

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honourable friend said, we are keen to see action that p 5 a level and

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we are keen to see the issue raised with the Security Council hopefully

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this week. My constituent was evacuated from Libya as part of the

:45:58.:46:02.

British evacuation, with his pregnant Libyan wife. They have now

:46:03.:46:10.

receded bill for the birth of their child from the NHS for �1,255. Is

:46:10.:46:14.

this any way to treat a family fleeing Gadaffi, and will he

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undertake to look into this here and in Wales? Clearly, I am unaware

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of the circumstances precisely described by the honourable

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gentleman. I will happily look into it. It may refer to regular UK

:46:32.:46:37.

status, and then behave by certain benefit regulations about being

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ordinarily resident in the United Kingdom. At this stage, I would be

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very happy to have a look at the circumstances. I would like to ask

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the Minister what measures we will be putting in place to support the

:46:55.:47:00.

French at the G20 on Sid security? It is one of the issues that really

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links foreign policy with prices in my supermarkets for my constituents.

:47:07.:47:14.

We welcome the French presidency's aim to tackle high acid prices.

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Prices since 2010 have pushed 44 million people across the world

:47:18.:47:22.

into poverty. They are being driven by a shortage of supply and

:47:22.:47:26.

increase in demand. I would urge countries like Sudan to start

:47:26.:47:32.

producing food again, not least for their own people. The Secretary of

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State will be aware of a case of my constituents who is one of a number

:47:36.:47:40.

of British citizens who, for more than 20 years, has been trying to

:47:40.:47:46.

secure equal pay under their European up like so like Italy. I

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wonder if he would take up this case again and tried to bring the

:47:50.:47:55.

Surrey side go to a conclusion. I intend to visit Italy within the

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next week and this is one of the items that will be on the agenda.

:48:02.:48:08.

With the Foreign Secretary please confirm the UK's policy towards the

:48:08.:48:11.

use of predator drones, and in particular its legal and moral

:48:11.:48:19.

basis. Our policy is that the use of drones is a matter for the

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governments of the United States and Pakistan. Will the Foreign

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Secretary join me in welcoming the release of the Iranian trade

:48:30.:48:40.
:48:40.:48:40.

unionist? Despite this encouraging step, two others are still in jail

:48:40.:48:46.

in Iran, possibly for belonging to a trade unions. With the Foreign

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Secretary agree to meet with me and other interested politicians on

:48:49.:48:54.

this issue? This is another example of the appalling human rights

:48:54.:48:59.

record of the Iranian government. Either I, or one of my ministerial

:48:59.:49:02.

colleagues, will meet the honourable gentleman if that is

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acceptable to him. Iran's human rights record has deteriorated

:49:07.:49:11.

steadily, even throughout this year. There are more journalists in

:49:11.:49:17.

prison in Iran than anywhere else. It has an appalling record of a

:49:17.:49:24.

human rights abuse and the instance he gives is another one. Would my

:49:24.:49:27.

right honourable friend comment on the worrying situation in south

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Sudan and the considerable increase in violence in the disputed states?

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The states are subject to talk to day between the presidents of north

:49:39.:49:43.

and south Sudan and the former President of South Africa and the

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President of Ethiopia. I share my honourable friend's concerns. That

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is why we have called on all parties to end this and respect the

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humanitarian responsibilities and to allow access to larger needed

:49:59.:50:06.

international assistance. Minister will be aware of the

:50:06.:50:11.

legislation passed in March in Egypt restricting the right to

:50:11.:50:15.

strike and criminalisation of protests. Will the Government

:50:15.:50:18.

raised concern with the Egyptian authorities about restrictions on

:50:18.:50:26.

the right to protest? Yes, this is the kind of issue that I discussed

:50:26.:50:31.

with Egyptian authorities when I visited Cairo last week. Clearly,

:50:31.:50:38.

we want to see a much more normal state of affairs. We hope that the

:50:38.:50:43.

onset of elections and greater political Sweden will bring that

:50:43.:50:47.

about. People having the basic rights, including those to which

:50:47.:50:53.

you are fair. Europe's stands united in condemnation of the

:50:53.:50:57.

atrocities perpetrated by the Syrian regime, but progress in

:50:57.:51:01.

getting the Security Council to similarly declared the combination

:51:01.:51:04.

of these abuses is slow. The support of countries like Brazil,

:51:04.:51:08.

said Aberdare and India could reduce the likelihood of a Russian

:51:08.:51:13.

or Chinese of veto. Can the Minister say what steps the

:51:13.:51:17.

Government is taking to strengthen ties between the Britain and the

:51:17.:51:21.

emerging powers, not just in terms of trade but also shared interests

:51:21.:51:29.

like human rights. Yes, my honourable friend is right up to

:51:29.:51:33.

draw the conclusion to elevate these relations. A good example of

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this is the UK, South Africa bilateral forum which we held on

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Thursday. This included four said African Ministers with their

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counterparts from the UK, discussing a whole range of issues,

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emphasising in particular the shared values between our country

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and a country like South Africans. We will take forward a that work in

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the years ahead. Ministers met last week with our constituents who took

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the time to have tea with us about overseas aid. Many members of

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Parliament for many years have been concerned with aid in return for

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trade. Could the Secretary of State say that his department would never

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get involved in a conversation about a commitment of overseas aid

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in return for privatisation of public utilities for a contracts

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for British companies? It I think he may want to answer this question

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at the Department of International Development to get the thought of

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answer, but as he knows, across the House we are in favour of

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development aid being given on its merits and not for the kind of the

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deals are arrangements he is talking about. Mr Speaker, the

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recent elections in Nigeria exceeded international expectations

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as a fair process and a true democratic choice. Will the

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Minister encourage the Nigerian government to extend that she the

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business sphere by tackling corruption and supporting

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entrepreneur ship as this is the best way to Secure at a secure

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economic future for the Nigerian people. I was struck by the

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President's determination to root out corruption and put in place a

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road map before or oil and power sector reform. Can the Minister of

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dip a house on progress that has been made on getting Palestinian

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leaders to recognise the right of the state of Israel to exist?

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the moment, Hamas does not recognise the right of Israel to

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exist. The criteria we applied to the new Palestinian authority are

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those which I set out to the House earlier and set out last week,

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including accepting the previous agreement of the PLO. What

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discussions were had with Barack Obama concerning recent US calls

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for the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands. Was he persuaded to

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support democracy in the South Atlantic as well as the Middle

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East? It there has been no discussion with Barack Obama on his

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recent visit of the Falcon Islands and the position of the United

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Kingdom remains absolutely the same, as it has found under successive

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governments since 1982. Ahead of Channel 4's screening of the

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killing fields of Sri Lanka, what reasoned assessment has the

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Secretary of State made of the credibility of the Sri Lankan

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government's lessons learnt and reconciliation commission and its

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new deadline to report to November of this year? I spoke to this

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morning to the Foreign Secretary of shrill Lanka. He had an opportunity

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to update me on some positive measures that had been taken. I was

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in a position to remind him of the importance of a credible and

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independent investigation of the various allegations which are now

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very much on the table from the UN and others. It is essential that

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those are dealt with. We note the new timetable to report his

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November. However long this takes, it will not be possible for surely

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go to move forward unless it has addressed some of the horrors of

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the past. The Foreign Secretary will be aware of the large and

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growing Serbian expatriate community in London. What positive

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message can we send them about the prospect of the easing of visa

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requirements in the future, and also the Halle and when Serbia

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could eventually joined the European Union? As my honourable

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friend knows, these requirements are at a matter for the Home office.

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And they will be considered by Home office Ministers when the next

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review the visa waiver scheme. The message to Serbia is this country

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supports Serbia's ambitions to join the European Union and wishes the

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President every success in taking through the very demanding

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programme of reforms that will be needed for them to meet the

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conditions of entry. Is the Foreign Secretary aware of the reasons why

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his German counterpart went to Benghazi and said that the German

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government was now recognising the transitional government in

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Benghazi? Does this represent a welcome shift of Germany's position

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given they abstained on the Security Council resolution of

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Injury any has been supportive. Although they abstained in the

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Security Council in March they have been part of the contact group, the

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German Foreign Minister attended the London conference, which I

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hosted, at the end of March. Although Germany has not made a

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military contribution to the NATO effort they have been helpful in

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many other ways and given political support to what we are doing. What

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he points out is further evidence of that consistent approach.

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too many parts of the world freedom of religion and belief does not

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exist or is being undermined. Would my honourable friend establish an

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advisory commission on freedom of relig ligious belief to advise the

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government on these important issues? I have already established

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a human rights advisory group which, at its second meeting last week,

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that meeting we had a specific discussion about this very subject,

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about freedom of religion, freedom of worship, and so on. The Foreign

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Office paper will go on to be discussed at a conference, to be

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held shortly. This is an important subject in which the Foreign Office

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and many other people are now engaged. The Foreign Secretary said

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earlier that he had a conversation with the Crown Prince of Bahrain,

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that he is in favour of dialogue. It's very well saying that, both

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here and the United States, the same time the government in Bahrain

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is crushing dissidents and also locking up those people who should

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be part of the dialogue. Yes, she makes a powerful point. The point I

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would make in return is, yes, we should be highly critical and we

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should condemn human rights' abuses in Bahrain, but it is very

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important for us to play what role we can in encouraging the most

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constructive, the most moderate figures, on both sides, to make a

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