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misgivings about the route we are about to go down but we must respect | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
the wishes of the people and bring forward a bill to support it. I | :00:00. | :00:09. | |
campaigned and voted to remain but will accept the result of the | :00:10. | :00:14. | |
referendum -- the referendum. It does not mean I am voting to give | :00:15. | :00:19. | |
the government a free ride to pursue a right-wing hard Brexit. It is our | :00:20. | :00:23. | |
responsibility to show how divisions can be healed. We need to speak not | :00:24. | :00:29. | |
only of process but of what sort of country we want the UK to be. How we | :00:30. | :00:35. | |
build new relationships with countries across the world. We must | :00:36. | :00:40. | |
watch and scrutinise and that is not about whether we leave the EU but | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
how do. The referendum was an emphatic shout of enough by those | :00:47. | :00:50. | |
who feel left behind by globalisation, who have had enough | :00:51. | :00:55. | |
of being politically and socially excluded, powerless with nobody | :00:56. | :01:00. | |
listening to them on issues such as immigration, and the referendum was | :01:01. | :01:03. | |
an opportunity for many of them to take decisive action in the hope of | :01:04. | :01:07. | |
bringing change. We must now listen to that. The change in my view must | :01:08. | :01:14. | |
begin by ending the categorisation of some leave falters as not knowing | :01:15. | :01:19. | |
what they are doing. That only serves to deepen the cars running | :01:20. | :01:22. | |
through the UK and we must take time to understand the pain and anger of | :01:23. | :01:28. | |
such people. I say to the government what we also must do is hear the | :01:29. | :01:33. | |
legitimate concerns of the 40% of people who bought of remain, not | :01:34. | :01:43. | |
just brushing them off as remoaners and attempting to brush off the will | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
of the people. We are one country and the stark divisions of the | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
referendum must be allowed to heal and this must start with the common | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
narrative from the government that the Brexit negotiations will strive | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
to get the best deal for everyone, not just those who voted to leave. | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
That is why the amendment process is so crucial. They set out a vision | :02:05. | :02:11. | |
and one that we in the Labour Party and others want to see, and we must | :02:12. | :02:17. | |
find a way through that process. After we have left the EU, | :02:18. | :02:21. | |
globalisation will not cease to exist and neither will the refugee | :02:22. | :02:26. | |
crisis and the threat of terrorism or the lack of funding for the NHS | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
or the pervasive inequality which exists in the UK, and Brexit must | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
seek to address those in a liberal and inclusive way, in a way that | :02:37. | :02:41. | |
supports jobs and tackles any quality and is based on building a | :02:42. | :02:44. | |
new consensus here in Britain on immigration. It must include the | :02:45. | :02:51. | |
protection of workers' rights and guarantees of legal rights for EU | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
nationals living in Britain. That plan must be progressive, united by | :02:56. | :03:02. | |
a common principle of respect, tolerance and open-mindedness, and | :03:03. | :03:06. | |
in that we hope can overcome despair and a brighter future for all seems | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
possible, even if not as part of the EU. I have listened to this debate | :03:11. | :03:17. | |
for the last couple of days and I can quite understand why | :03:18. | :03:20. | |
constituents feel we coming out of the European Union tonight. That we | :03:21. | :03:25. | |
are voting on that tonight. We not. The bill is a simple and | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
straightforward matter that simply puts us back where we believe the | :03:30. | :03:35. | |
situation was prior to the Supreme Court judgment. That is all the bill | :03:36. | :03:40. | |
does. I disagree with those who tell me that the referendum was only | :03:41. | :03:48. | |
advisory. In our manifesto we said explicitly that we would accept the | :03:49. | :03:53. | |
result of the referendum whatever it was. The referendum effectively | :03:54. | :03:59. | |
ceased to be advisory at that point. How voting against giving the Prime | :04:00. | :04:03. | |
Minister permission to start article 50 negotiations would comply with | :04:04. | :04:09. | |
that nobody has ever said. Or indeed how we could ever be trusted again | :04:10. | :04:14. | |
in taking democratic decisions in the interests of the people. Those | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
like me who voted to remain need to accept that we lost the argument. | :04:20. | :04:26. | |
That we lost the vote. I am not throwing in the towel, unlike the | :04:27. | :04:29. | |
Right Honourable member for North East Bedfordshire. I am responding | :04:30. | :04:36. | |
to this by doing all that I can to work on the aspects that are key to | :04:37. | :04:40. | |
me to take that forward and that includes for example the meeting | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
that we had this morning with the Justice select committee when we had | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
yet another session with leading lawyers about what we need to carry | :04:49. | :04:56. | |
foreword in the justice system. Here in parliament, in both houses of | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
parliament, since the beginning of this discussion, we have already had | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
some 60 hours of discussion about the EU and our leaving in it. 60 | :05:07. | :05:10. | |
hours of debate that have taken place already. And which the front | :05:11. | :05:18. | |
bench I know has listened to. I would like to comment on two things | :05:19. | :05:23. | |
quickly. One is the term hard Brexit is one of the laziest forms of | :05:24. | :05:28. | |
journalism I have ever heard and it is a great shame it is being used | :05:29. | :05:35. | |
unless house. Maintaining the Common travel area with Ireland, the rights | :05:36. | :05:42. | |
of EU nationals, protecting workers' rights, the best place for science | :05:43. | :05:45. | |
and innovation, how that can possibly be called a hard Brexit I | :05:46. | :05:48. | |
don't know, but there is one issue I would like some confidence on from | :05:49. | :06:01. | |
ministers and that is the case of Euratom. I heard what the Secretary | :06:02. | :06:04. | |
of State said yesterday but I would like some assurance because they | :06:05. | :06:07. | |
were negotiating in good faith and then the suddenly a card. | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
There has been a lot of Sturm and drying over this debate and I tried | :06:13. | :06:21. | |
to reflect what I feel as an individual about this and I have to | :06:22. | :06:26. | |
say I have a sense of disbelief, despair at the decision that is | :06:27. | :06:31. | |
about to be made, and significant doubt in the abilities of those | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
people who seek to give voice to my constituents that they will go | :06:36. | :06:38. | |
anyway for word in meeting their needs. In Edinburgh West, 71% of my | :06:39. | :06:48. | |
constituents voted to remain, and I would like to make clear the | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
reasoned amendment today in the name of the SNP is backed by many of my | :06:53. | :06:58. | |
constituents, the vast majority of which voted against independence in | :06:59. | :07:02. | |
our independence referendum, and many of them are not SNP supporters, | :07:03. | :07:08. | |
and to a man and to a woman they are writing to me to say that if this | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
goes ahead I am firmly in favour of taking the next steps to protect my | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
business, to protect my child who wants to go through the Erasmus | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
University scheme, to protect my ability to travel, work and live | :07:24. | :07:28. | |
freely within Europe. It is quite fundamental in Scotland. How | :07:29. | :07:35. | |
strongly we feel about this matter. I would like to finish by noting it | :07:36. | :07:42. | |
is not just about the economics. The economics incidentally is the vast | :07:43. | :07:45. | |
collective madness, to step away from this matter, but the philosophy | :07:46. | :07:52. | |
of Europe, the philosophy of Europe as a unifier, as a collective | :07:53. | :07:58. | |
unifier to protect against the sort of madness and rhetoric we hear from | :07:59. | :08:07. | |
Tromp, racist, misogynistic, protectionist, that also is a | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
fundamental from me. So I feel disbelief and with every breath in | :08:13. | :08:18. | |
my body I will make sure that Scotland can continue to access the | :08:19. | :08:20. | |
single market. Thank you. Mr Speaker, may I start my speech by | :08:21. | :08:31. | |
congratulating my honourable friend and neighbour although not at her | :08:32. | :08:37. | |
place for fantastic maiden speech, bodes very well for the future of | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
Lincolnshire. I am going to be short and to the point. In the 20 15th | :08:42. | :08:47. | |
general election my conservative colleagues and I stood on a | :08:48. | :08:49. | |
manifesto pledge that we would let the British people decide whether to | :08:50. | :08:57. | |
stay in or leave the European Union, and that we would honour the result | :08:58. | :09:01. | |
of the referendum whatever the outcome. We won the general election | :09:02. | :09:05. | |
and we kept our promise on holding the referendum. We must therefore | :09:06. | :09:11. | |
keep our promise on honouring the result of the referendum and it is | :09:12. | :09:14. | |
on that basis that I will be voting with the government tonight to | :09:15. | :09:17. | |
trigger article 50. Thank you. I am fortunate that my personal loan | :09:18. | :09:28. | |
and strongly held views align with the three quarters of my | :09:29. | :09:32. | |
constituents aborted to remain. I will therefore be voting against the | :09:33. | :09:36. | |
triggering of article 50 by whatever that someone is able to do it. Royal | :09:37. | :09:43. | |
prerogative, prime ministerial deck tap, whatever, I am against it in my | :09:44. | :09:46. | |
constituents have against it and I will not be moved from that. Let me | :09:47. | :09:53. | |
tell you why it is so strong. Both sides of my family suffered in the | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
waters of the last century. It was my grandfather and my mother's said | :09:58. | :10:06. | |
that formed my views. He was a keen and competitive race walker and I | :10:07. | :10:09. | |
grew up surrounded by his trophies. When he moved to Chingford who used | :10:10. | :10:14. | |
to walk home at weekends, 50 miles each way, but that was before the | :10:15. | :10:19. | |
First World War. Like many other brave young men he stood knee deep | :10:20. | :10:25. | |
in trenches for months, he at least came home but the gangrene meant he | :10:26. | :10:31. | |
lost one leg. A few decades later another war, this time my father | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
born in Austria, forced to flee Vienna when the Nat sees marched in. | :10:36. | :10:43. | |
He came to Britain and was made welcome for which we are eternally | :10:44. | :10:49. | |
grateful. The reason I am passionate about the European Union is because | :10:50. | :10:51. | |
of the party has played in keeping fractious concert -- continent from | :10:52. | :10:58. | |
falling out. I know some will see it was not EU but Nato, but it was | :10:59. | :11:03. | |
borne out of the desire to stop war in Europe and that is no doubt in my | :11:04. | :11:06. | |
mind that having a political framework to resolve differences has | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
made a kludge contribution to keeping the peace. My generation is | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
privileged. We have not, most of us, had to go to war. I fully understand | :11:16. | :11:24. | |
his personal circumstance, his passion, but would you not agree | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
that the European currency has done more to divide Europe by | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
impoverishing Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece and that's a long as that | :11:33. | :11:37. | |
continues that is likely to be further division. | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
I do not agree. I think our continent is much more united than | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
it was when we were at war. How quickly we have forgotten how this | :11:49. | :11:53. | |
was achieved. When the world is such an uncertain place, this is not the | :11:54. | :11:56. | |
moment to turn away from my European home. Lured to take a huge gamble in | :11:57. | :12:03. | |
getting a deal with the most reckless and unreliable American | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
president any bus have known. There is much would like to say on these | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
issues, which would like to say about Cambridge and the threat to | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
are universities. I associate myself with many of the comments made by | :12:17. | :12:21. | |
honourable friends on my site, particularly with the EU nationals | :12:22. | :12:29. | |
around Cambridge whose future is uncertain and whose future could | :12:30. | :12:31. | |
have been assured of the government had moved more swiftly. And the | :12:32. | :12:36. | |
damage it will do to our country of those people start to leave. It | :12:37. | :12:44. | |
troubles me a lot. Last week, out of the blue, the government announced | :12:45. | :12:47. | |
they wanted to pull out of the European nuclear agency, which | :12:48. | :12:52. | |
appeared to happen without discussion or consultation with the | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
industry, without apparent thought to the wider consequences. There are | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
so many other things. The threat to our environmental protections, our | :13:02. | :13:08. | |
rights at work, data and privacy rights, our sciences sector. Three | :13:09. | :13:12. | |
quarters of people in Cambridge voted to remain. I came into | :13:13. | :13:16. | |
Parliament to represent their views. They put their trust in me and I | :13:17. | :13:20. | |
will not betray that. There is a real risk the government will lead a | :13:21. | :13:24. | |
retreat to turn Britain into an isolated island. The United States | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
is building a wall. At such a time we must be brave and go on to make | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
the case that retreat, isolation and walls do not a modern world make. | :13:34. | :13:37. | |
The European Union is far from perfect but we should be working to | :13:38. | :13:40. | |
make it better, not weakening it at a dangerous time. | :13:41. | :13:47. | |
This notification of withdrawal from the European Union second reading is | :13:48. | :13:51. | |
a long debate, and yet the bill is very succinct and rightly so. | :13:52. | :13:57. | |
Therefore, I think it is incumbent upon me, Mr Speaker, to be concise | :13:58. | :14:07. | |
in my remarks. In the run-up to the referendum on our membership of the | :14:08. | :14:10. | |
European Union last June, the government published, at the cost of | :14:11. | :14:16. | |
little over ?9 million from memory, a booklet that went to virtually | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
every household in the UK. It explained the reasons why they felt | :14:21. | :14:24. | |
it was best for us to remain members of the EU. In that booklet, it also | :14:25. | :14:31. | |
said, however, that whatever decision the British people decide, | :14:32. | :14:36. | |
we will implement. It is therefore, Mr Speaker, I believe, our duty to | :14:37. | :14:43. | |
ensure that we pass this legislation tonight without delaying or | :14:44. | :14:50. | |
Amendments designed to wreck this legislation, to ensure that the | :14:51. | :14:54. | |
Prime Minister has the authority to start that official, formal | :14:55. | :15:01. | |
withdrawal process. So that this parliament, once again, can exercise | :15:02. | :15:04. | |
its sovereignty and rightly holding the Godman to account, to ensure | :15:05. | :15:09. | |
that we get the best possible deal as we leave the European Union and | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
as we once again broaden our horizons as global Britain. | :15:14. | :15:24. | |
I rise to speak in this debate as a European. I was born a European. And | :15:25. | :15:32. | |
those who supported the Brexit cause told us that if we left the European | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
Union, we would be no less European. And I say this to them. I will hold | :15:37. | :15:44. | |
them at their word. Now I don't believe, Mr Speaker, that this | :15:45. | :15:47. | |
referendum was our finest democratic moment. I also disagree with the | :15:48. | :15:54. | |
Brexiteers on that. As many of my constituents have raised, there are | :15:55. | :15:57. | |
serious concerns about the referendum. But this debate is not | :15:58. | :16:02. | |
about that any more. It is the beginning of the most important | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
question our country faces in a generation. And we must rapidly move | :16:08. | :16:12. | |
on from the process that we have heard discussed, and onto substance. | :16:13. | :16:18. | |
And I want to say several things about that. Firstly, on immigration. | :16:19. | :16:25. | |
To those who say, we proudly talk of the metropolitan areas in our | :16:26. | :16:29. | |
country where immigration is no problem and disparage those areas | :16:30. | :16:31. | |
that feel strongly about immigration, I would say that that | :16:32. | :16:37. | |
is not the right way. We need to understand that all parts of our | :16:38. | :16:41. | |
country have benefited from immigration. That all British people | :16:42. | :16:46. | |
are tolerant and respectful of others. And that those are the best | :16:47. | :16:51. | |
of British values. And that the Prime Minister is wrong in designing | :16:52. | :16:55. | |
and economic policy entirely around shutting down immigration. And let | :16:56. | :17:01. | |
me say very briefly, Mr Speaker, Y. Economic division in our country is | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
both the cause and will be the consequence of Brexit. It is the | :17:07. | :17:10. | |
fact that we have an economy designed with London, like | :17:11. | :17:15. | |
Singapore, charging ahead, and the Northern regions of England held | :17:16. | :17:18. | |
back like Eastern Europe, that people feel left out and that | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
economic division comes because power is hoarded here in this city. | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
And people in the North feel like they have not had enough of a saver | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
too long and they voted to leave as a result. The answer must be to | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
restore that power and balance. The answer must be, never again to hoard | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
power here but to have a truly federal Britain. In my maiden | :17:42. | :17:47. | |
speech, Mr Speaker, I said that Wirral was an internationally minded | :17:48. | :17:51. | |
and cultured place. It was then and it is now. To those in our country | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
who have been shocked, horrified, disgraced, embarrassed, ashamed by | :17:57. | :17:59. | |
the racism and xenophobia we have seen, I say this. Those are not our | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
values. That is not my country and we move on from that point with | :18:05. | :18:12. | |
those values at our heart. The manifesto I stood in 2015 not | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
only promised a referendum on Europe but also stated that we will honour | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
the result of the referendum whatever the outcome. And I | :18:22. | :18:24. | |
committed during the referendum campaign that I would personally | :18:25. | :18:27. | |
respect the result even if it was decided by just one individual vote. | :18:28. | :18:32. | |
In the end the difference was more than one vote. 72% of the population | :18:33. | :18:38. | |
turned out and that showed how seriously the British public took | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
the task of deciding their future. In my constituency, the turnout was | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
more than 80%. Contrast this with 58% who turned out in the recent US | :18:47. | :18:52. | |
presidential election, an election with huge consequences for the USA | :18:53. | :18:55. | |
and the world, and yet one in which nearly 100 million Americans could | :18:56. | :19:01. | |
not turn out and vote. The referendum was not a consultation | :19:02. | :19:05. | |
bottom instruction. Today I will do my duty and vote to trigger Article | :19:06. | :19:09. | |
50. And then the work really begins. If we use the analogy of a flight, | :19:10. | :19:14. | |
we have boarded the plane and we're leaving Europe. But while we know | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
the general direction, we do not yet know the destination. Some | :19:19. | :19:24. | |
passengers believe we are heading for some kind of tropical paradise. | :19:25. | :19:28. | |
Some believe we are heading to some icy wasteland. But locally, we do | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
have a pilot who has a clear flight path. And I suspect that after | :19:33. | :19:38. | |
flying around for a while, we will not land on an icy wasteland, we | :19:39. | :19:41. | |
will not land on a tropical paradise, but we will land somewhere | :19:42. | :19:44. | |
quite familiar to where we originally began. While I don't wish | :19:45. | :19:49. | |
to belittle the great challenge we have ahead of us, the fact is the | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
British economy is strong, resilient and dynamic. I never from one minute | :19:55. | :19:59. | |
believe that by leaving the EU the sky was falling. But different | :20:00. | :20:02. | |
segments of our economy will inevitably be impacted in different | :20:03. | :20:06. | |
ways by Brexit. Some obviously benefit. Some will be is the | :20:07. | :20:10. | |
struggle. And all are impacted to some degree by uncertainty. So we | :20:11. | :20:15. | |
must work hard and quickly to reduce that uncertainty and we must provide | :20:16. | :20:18. | |
every support and comfort to those sectors of the economy that we know | :20:19. | :20:23. | |
are at most risk from Brexit. And we must listen to people with deep | :20:24. | :20:26. | |
knowledge and expertise in sectors that are perhaps not well | :20:27. | :20:31. | |
represented in this place. Yet faced some particularly context | :20:32. | :20:34. | |
challengers were Brexit. Such is the aviation industry, digital and | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
creative, and those sectors where there is no clear WTO alternative. I | :20:40. | :20:42. | |
encourage the Godman to continuing gauging with industry and experts. | :20:43. | :20:50. | |
-- the government. I look forward to holding the government to account to | :20:51. | :20:53. | |
ensure the government delivers a successful deal that helps Britain | :20:54. | :20:59. | |
and secures my children's future. I intend to vote in favour of | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
activating Article 50 tonight out of respect for the result of the | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
referendum despite the flaws and the deceit of the Leave campaign. But I | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
will write no blank cheques to anyone, least of all this | :21:13. | :21:19. | |
government. I resent -- reject the assertion of the result of the | :21:20. | :21:22. | |
referendum is the will of the people. It is not. It is a result of | :21:23. | :21:29. | |
a slim majority. It is deeply troubling. Everyone on this side of | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
the house recognises the growing inequality in our country, the | :21:35. | :21:39. | |
growing pub -- pressure on public services, competition from low paid | :21:40. | :21:42. | |
jobs and economic and social transformation. I certainly don't | :21:43. | :21:48. | |
understand how a harder Brexit and low regulation Singapore Britain is | :21:49. | :21:51. | |
the answer to these concerns. It will destroy jobs, destroying | :21:52. | :21:55. | |
employers, destroy public finances and make it more difficult to | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
address the social and economic challenges we recognise. We need a | :22:00. | :22:01. | |
vision of Britain closely integrated with our European partners and the | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
European market we are closely situated to. Our manufacturers, | :22:07. | :22:11. | |
service centres, creative industries, universities are hugely | :22:12. | :22:14. | |
dependent on those markets and on European skills. If we walk away | :22:15. | :22:19. | |
from Europe out of petty malice, we will be cutting off her nose to | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
spite our face. We will be cutting hope and opportunity throughout the | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
land. That is the antithesis of what I believe those driving forward the | :22:28. | :22:30. | |
gum and agenda which. Quite apart from threatening a low tax,... That | :22:31. | :22:39. | |
is precisely the kind of UK they want to achieve. Free from what they | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
see as the constraints of employment rights and environmental protection. | :22:44. | :22:49. | |
They want a UK with low corporate tax, no protection for people at | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
work and minimal public services. They have taken people's's | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
understandable concerns about immigration and anger over bad | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
employers bringing in cheap imported labour to drive down pay rates. And | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
they have driven through their own vision which ironically and | :23:08. | :23:10. | |
tragically would end up most hurting the people most concerned about the | :23:11. | :23:13. | |
current arrangements. They are so desperate for a trade deal with the | :23:14. | :23:16. | |
United States, we go capping hand to the racist president because we need | :23:17. | :23:22. | |
is good favour to get a trade deal. At the same time we're alienating | :23:23. | :23:25. | |
all other countries who want a recently shared our values of | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
decency, tolerance and respect. So tonight I will respect the result of | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
the referendum but after that, all bets are off. I will not allow good | :23:35. | :23:38. | |
people who voted for a Leave be hoodwinked by the hard right of the | :23:39. | :23:43. | |
Conservative Party. I will not allow a wonderful, beautiful, decent, | :23:44. | :23:48. | |
tolerant country to be abandoned to Brexit, short of a standard we have | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
all come to enjoy and perhaps take for granted. | :23:53. | :23:57. | |
Like other colleagues on this side of the House, I stood in the general | :23:58. | :24:02. | |
election on a manifesto promising a referendum and to respect the | :24:03. | :24:08. | |
result. I campaigned hard in the referendum to stay in the European | :24:09. | :24:12. | |
Union. It pains me greatly that my side lost. But honour and decency | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
binds me by the Pledge I made in the referendum and I shall vote to | :24:17. | :24:22. | |
support the government tonight. That said, it is also my duty to my | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
constituents and the country to make sure we have the best possible | :24:27. | :24:30. | |
outcome thereafter. In my sense that means this. In my constituency some | :24:31. | :24:36. | |
35% of people work in the financial and professional services sector. It | :24:37. | :24:39. | |
is one of the highest percentages anywhere in the country. It is | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
critical that that key economic interest of the United Kingdom is | :24:45. | :24:48. | |
central to our negotiating objectives and should not be | :24:49. | :24:50. | |
regarded as secondary in my judgment to anything. And if we have to be | :24:51. | :24:54. | |
prepared to make pragmatic compromise to secure the welfare of | :24:55. | :24:59. | |
that key economic sector, we should be prepared to do so. Secondly, we | :25:00. | :25:04. | |
should not forget the interest of our territory on Gibraltar. It | :25:05. | :25:08. | |
doesn't have anybody else to speak for it today. I will take the | :25:09. | :25:12. | |
liberty of doing so. They must have their economy protected and there | :25:13. | :25:16. | |
are broader able to flow uninterrupted and free. Thirdly, we | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
must actually make sure that Parliamentary sovereignty is now | :25:22. | :25:26. | |
real in this case. We are acting in accordance with the process set down | :25:27. | :25:31. | |
by our highest courts, where the judges acted in accordance with | :25:32. | :25:37. | |
their constitutional duty and shall be accepted and commended for doing | :25:38. | :25:41. | |
that. That means Parliament must be prepared to have a proper control of | :25:42. | :25:45. | |
the process. I welcome the commitment to publish the white | :25:46. | :25:49. | |
Paper. I accept the words in good faith of the Prime Minister and the | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
Secretary of State. There are two other things we must do. It is very | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
important that Parliament has the maximum information available to it. | :25:59. | :26:02. | |
And in particular it will be quite wrong if Parliament at any state had | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
less information than our European counterparts. And secondly, the | :26:08. | :26:10. | |
pledge of a vote on the final day in both houses must be meaningful -- | :26:11. | :26:16. | |
deal. That must mean a vote before the dealers put to our European | :26:17. | :26:22. | |
counterparties for ratification. Otherwise it would be a Hobson 's | :26:23. | :26:25. | |
choice of little value. I hope ministers will reflect carefully on | :26:26. | :26:29. | |
those key points as the Bill makes its progress going forward. | :26:30. | :26:36. | |
Despite my constituency producing two enormous Brexiteers in the past, | :26:37. | :26:41. | |
one, so Teddy Taylor, who represented South end, and Tom | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
Harris, who led the Brexit campaign in Scotland, I had the highest | :26:46. | :26:50. | |
Remain voting constituency in the city of Glasgow at over 70%. I get | :26:51. | :26:56. | |
were lots of people felt they did not have a connection to the EU. I | :26:57. | :26:59. | |
understand that. They felt like they did not have a lesion chip with it | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
in their daily lives. -- relationship. We felt like it was | :27:04. | :27:08. | |
something done to them, rather than inclusive. Sadly, this Brexit deal | :27:09. | :27:16. | |
is going in the same direction. The Prime Minister has done everything | :27:17. | :27:18. | |
she possibly could to prevent this House from having a say a vote on | :27:19. | :27:24. | |
it. We are only here today for this to be because the Government was | :27:25. | :27:28. | |
taken to court, which had to go on appeal and then to the Supreme | :27:29. | :27:32. | |
Court. The Prime Minister has done everything to try and free us out -- | :27:33. | :27:37. | |
freeze out parliament and devolved administration 's. That is | :27:38. | :27:43. | |
regrettable. This Brexit process has all the hallmarks of a hostile | :27:44. | :27:46. | |
takeover in which the vote on the 23rd of June last year is being used | :27:47. | :27:50. | |
to have allsorts and other issues, like the single market, the customs | :27:51. | :27:57. | |
union alongside. That is not good enough. | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
The honourable member has expressed some concern and confusion about the | :28:03. | :28:05. | |
position that has been argued by the Brexiteers. Could he help alleviate | :28:06. | :28:11. | |
my confusion on the Scottish position. That is that you want a | :28:12. | :28:16. | |
free independent Scotland but it has to be ruled from Brussels. Can you | :28:17. | :28:23. | |
please explain that conundrum? IMAX are not going to explain it because | :28:24. | :28:28. | |
to such a lazy argument. -- I am actually not going to explain it. I | :28:29. | :28:33. | |
will use my extra minute to make the arguments I wish to proceed. The | :28:34. | :28:38. | |
Prime Minister does not have a consensus... I suggest you take that | :28:39. | :28:43. | |
back. The Prime Minister has no consensus to proceed in the way sea, | :28:44. | :28:53. | |
-- she suggests. Former Prime Minister that talks about a country | :28:54. | :28:59. | |
that works for everyone, this is a Brexit negotiating process and | :29:00. | :29:01. | |
Article 50 process that was incubated and kept that Downing | :29:02. | :29:06. | |
Street. That will do nothing in our attempts to fight against the poison | :29:07. | :29:11. | |
of political cynicism that is eating away at liberal democracies around | :29:12. | :29:15. | |
the world, including this one that we serve. Mr Speaker, our position | :29:16. | :29:23. | |
is well known as a party. The Britannic isolation that this | :29:24. | :29:28. | |
Government seeks is something I cannot back, I will not back and | :29:29. | :29:31. | |
they will be voting against the Government tonight. | :29:32. | :29:37. | |
I voted remain in the referendum. Not for nostalgic or... Reasons, but | :29:38. | :29:43. | |
a pragmatic belief that it was not the right time for us to leave. | :29:44. | :29:47. | |
However, the point that has been sometimes overlooked is that this | :29:48. | :29:52. | |
vote on Article 50 is different one reason. It is not our decision. We | :29:53. | :29:57. | |
have a jetty as Democrats and Members of Parliament to enact the | :29:58. | :30:04. | |
result of the referendum. I have not change my mind personally, but the | :30:05. | :30:12. | |
Conservative manifesto pledge this referendum. I was proud and | :30:13. | :30:17. | |
Parliament to vote for the referendum and promised voters I | :30:18. | :30:21. | |
would honour the result. It was made abundantly clear in the referendum | :30:22. | :30:24. | |
that it would be final without any ifs or buts. When I make a promise | :30:25. | :30:29. | |
to my voters, I intend to keep it, no ifs or buts. This debate is less | :30:30. | :30:35. | |
about triggering Article 50 and more about democracy. The mere suggestion | :30:36. | :30:40. | |
we could consider riding roughshod over democracy and destroying what | :30:41. | :30:42. | |
is left of the British public's faith in politicians is quite | :30:43. | :30:49. | |
frankly absurd. Yes, we can all think of loopholes and justification | :30:50. | :30:51. | |
is to rationalise voting against the referendum result but surely it is a | :30:52. | :30:56. | |
sad state when it comes to this. Isn't it patronising to claim that | :30:57. | :30:59. | |
people really did not understand what they were voting for? Mr | :31:00. | :31:04. | |
Speaker, it is also important we do not distort the meaning of this | :31:05. | :31:09. | |
debate. This vote should not be turned into a pro-or anti | :31:10. | :31:14. | |
immigration board. It is simply a recognition that the Government | :31:15. | :31:16. | |
voted in part for a desire to take that control. There has been a lot | :31:17. | :31:21. | |
of talk in this debate about immigration and the end to free | :31:22. | :31:26. | |
movement. Members of spoken of cultural and economic benefits of | :31:27. | :31:28. | |
immigration and I echo this message wholeheartedly. But I seriously | :31:29. | :31:33. | |
question whether economic be achieved by European immigration. It | :31:34. | :31:39. | |
disadvantages those from other Commonwealths and the wider world | :31:40. | :31:41. | |
who my opinion have the same right and opportunity as those living in | :31:42. | :31:46. | |
Europe. It bound our hands and gave us no chance to make our immigration | :31:47. | :31:52. | |
system link to our skills. It saddens me some members have used | :31:53. | :31:56. | |
this debate had a stop that. Let us remember and be clear not escape the | :31:57. | :32:02. | |
public today. -- not to miss guide. This is about starting the process. | :32:03. | :32:08. | |
We can spend weeks about what we could change and what we can, but we | :32:09. | :32:14. | |
have a duty today. Our economy and businesses need certainty. The last | :32:15. | :32:17. | |
thing we need is another referendum speculation. Now is the time to get | :32:18. | :32:23. | |
on with the job, work on and get the best deal for Britain. We have a | :32:24. | :32:26. | |
duty to honour the result, a promise to keep and we need to show the | :32:27. | :32:33. | |
British public we can lesson and we are not superior to the people. -- | :32:34. | :32:38. | |
we can listen. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I respect the views of any | :32:39. | :32:45. | |
member in this House voting with a conscience. I have contempt for | :32:46. | :32:50. | |
people voting out of self-interest and self-preservation. I think the | :32:51. | :33:03. | |
Government can argue they have a mandate to take people out of the | :33:04. | :33:06. | |
EU, but not out of the single market. We are being asked to hand | :33:07. | :33:13. | |
over complete control of the process to a Prime Minister and Foreign | :33:14. | :33:15. | |
Secretary that between them, could not handover a dinner invitation | :33:16. | :33:18. | |
without creating a major international event. The Government | :33:19. | :33:23. | |
if anything has a mandate to keep us in the single market. That was what | :33:24. | :33:28. | |
was in the 2015 election manifesto. They don't like being reminded about | :33:29. | :33:31. | |
it but that was a mandate given by the people. As recently as the 24th | :33:32. | :33:37. | |
of October 2016, the Prime Minister said, I want the best possible deal | :33:38. | :33:40. | |
with the maximum opportunities for British businesses to operate within | :33:41. | :33:45. | |
the single market. For goods and services. The fact that as recently | :33:46. | :33:49. | |
as October the Primus awarded to stay in, at the very least, she | :33:50. | :33:56. | |
could tell us that nonmembership of the single market is too big to be | :33:57. | :34:02. | |
dealt with with just a single debate in this House. Some MPs have been | :34:03. | :34:09. | |
subject to and -- unfair pressure. The one you can tell someone they | :34:10. | :34:12. | |
have been undemocratic by exercising a vote. I have had that as well. I | :34:13. | :34:17. | |
have had an e-mail darkly hinting at the number of my constituency | :34:18. | :34:20. | |
wanting to leave, threatening me with potential deselection if I | :34:21. | :34:22. | |
dared to vote against the Government tonight. It did cross my mind that, | :34:23. | :34:37. | |
pension wise, you get out much better deal from losing for | :34:38. | :34:41. | |
retirement. I might decide to stand as a Labour candidate after I | :34:42. | :34:47. | |
retire. The Secretary of State concluded his speech yesterday by | :34:48. | :34:51. | |
asking us to trust the people. What I have heard from the Tory benches | :34:52. | :34:56. | |
today is much more than that. I have heard that the abolition of the | :34:57. | :34:59. | |
sovereignty of Parliament, they have finally accepted the people are | :35:00. | :35:07. | |
sovereign. There are four different sovereignties representative. The | :35:08. | :35:12. | |
solitary of my pupils are six to 2% wanted to stay in. We put forward a | :35:13. | :35:18. | |
compromise that respects those who want to leave and remain. And | :35:19. | :35:23. | |
respects the issues of the 55% in 2014. If we are forced to choose | :35:24. | :35:29. | |
between the 55% and 62% to want to remain in the EU, the party opposite | :35:30. | :35:36. | |
might get a matter surprise indeed. I campaigned on voted to leave the | :35:37. | :35:39. | |
European Union. It was in line with the butter -- alias I represent, | :35:40. | :35:47. | |
Bolton and Wigan, will the overwhelming view was to leave the | :35:48. | :35:51. | |
EU. It was an incredibly important referendum and I am disappointed | :35:52. | :35:56. | |
that sometimes people think we should never have had the referendum | :35:57. | :36:00. | |
in the first place. It was absolutely vital that we did because | :36:01. | :36:05. | |
when there is a transfer of power, it is for the people to approve, | :36:06. | :36:09. | |
even if retrospectively that transfer, that fast transfer of | :36:10. | :36:12. | |
power from Westminster to Brussels comes up. It is almost like the SNP | :36:13. | :36:18. | |
taking Scotland out of the UK without a referendum of the Liberal | :36:19. | :36:22. | |
Democrats changing our voting system without approval of the people. We | :36:23. | :36:26. | |
had to have this referendum to approve where we were, with those | :36:27. | :36:39. | |
transfers to the European Union. Dissatisfaction with the European | :36:40. | :36:41. | |
Union seemed to grow proportionally with the powers handed over to the | :36:42. | :36:47. | |
European Union. We could all see, whether you wanted to remain or | :36:48. | :36:50. | |
leave the EU, we could all see reform was absolutely vital. David | :36:51. | :36:56. | |
Cameron, in his speech, set out a fantastic vision for the EU. What is | :36:57. | :37:05. | |
this it -- his visit to Brussels whittled away that vision until | :37:06. | :37:08. | |
almost nothing was left. That was a proposal put to the British people. | :37:09. | :37:12. | |
Either we leave or we have this almost nonexistent reform of the EU. | :37:13. | :37:20. | |
It seems now that the campaign is to ensure that the Bloomberg vision is | :37:21. | :37:26. | |
almost resurrected in terms of the soft Brexit that people keep talking | :37:27. | :37:31. | |
about. This is the vision already rejected by the EU. During the | :37:32. | :37:36. | |
campaign, and both sides, there were problems. There was misleading | :37:37. | :37:44. | |
information. That ?350 million figure about the NHS is somewhat | :37:45. | :37:51. | |
overstated. In a general election, we look at the policies developed | :37:52. | :37:55. | |
over months and years. We look at the performance of the Government | :37:56. | :37:58. | |
and arguments from the opposition. We have years to decide and make up | :37:59. | :38:03. | |
our mind for the general election. The British people had 40 years to | :38:04. | :38:06. | |
make up their mind when looking at the European Union. It was not about | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
the last few weeks of the referendum campaign. It was about her | :38:11. | :38:17. | |
experience in the EU. That is by the people rejected it. Not because of | :38:18. | :38:21. | |
the few debatable arguments from one side or another. So I am looking | :38:22. | :38:24. | |
forward this evening to voting in favour of the bill and supporting | :38:25. | :38:34. | |
her leaving of the European Union. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Since the | :38:35. | :38:40. | |
vote, there has been a shadow cast across the country. The decision for | :38:41. | :38:43. | |
the UK to leave the European Union has played heavily on us all. It has | :38:44. | :38:48. | |
invited communities, families and put Google parties. -- political | :38:49. | :38:57. | |
parties. I campaigned for us to remain in the EU not because I feel | :38:58. | :39:01. | |
it is perfect. I don't want to see the UK closes doors and shut itself | :39:02. | :39:06. | |
the rest of the world. I want to work with European neighbours to | :39:07. | :39:11. | |
find common solutions to problems every country is facing. From a | :39:12. | :39:14. | |
rapidly ageing population and the impact on health care, pension | :39:15. | :39:19. | |
system, to the quality needed action we have today to tackle climate | :39:20. | :39:25. | |
change and terrorism. My constituents voted 66% in favour of | :39:26. | :39:28. | |
leaving the year and I respect that decision. Some of those voted to | :39:29. | :39:35. | |
leave the EU because of concerns over immigration and feels this was | :39:36. | :39:37. | |
negatively impacting on jobs and local services. Some voted out | :39:38. | :39:42. | |
because they thought it meant more money for the NHS. For some, this | :39:43. | :39:46. | |
was an opportunity not just a registered discontent with the EU, | :39:47. | :39:49. | |
but also the direction this country is travelling in as a whole. Well | :39:50. | :39:54. | |
globalisation has brought wealth and economic growth, it has left many | :39:55. | :39:58. | |
people behind. In Burnley, people have seen manufacturing jobs | :39:59. | :40:01. | |
decline, wages stagnate and bankers pay themselves millions of pounds in | :40:02. | :40:06. | |
bonuses. They have been told consistently by this Government the | :40:07. | :40:10. | |
UK's fastest-growing economy in the G7 but they do not see their growth. | :40:11. | :40:15. | |
They do not see more job opportunities or wage increases. | :40:16. | :40:18. | |
They find things getting harder. Because I respect my constituents | :40:19. | :40:24. | |
and democratic process, I will vote to trigger Article 50. But I will | :40:25. | :40:30. | |
not vote blindly for the Brexit deal that leaves my constituents worse | :40:31. | :40:34. | |
off. The deal reached must protect jobs. That means we have to access | :40:35. | :40:38. | |
the single market. 5000 people in Burnley work in manufacturing. Many | :40:39. | :40:43. | |
of the biggest employers are European and it is vital these jobs | :40:44. | :40:48. | |
are protected. Workers' rights must be protected. I am out past Labour | :40:49. | :40:53. | |
governments have championed workers Mark -- workers' rights. Burnley has | :40:54. | :41:01. | |
relied on vital EU funding that helps us expand. This investment has | :41:02. | :41:07. | |
to be replaced. The circumstances were not of my making but I believe | :41:08. | :41:11. | |
we must seize the moment and work together to our very best to achieve | :41:12. | :41:15. | |
a deal to serve the interests of all our people. In so doing, we have to | :41:16. | :41:18. | |
heal the divisions in our country. It's a pleasure to follow the | :41:19. | :41:28. | |
honourable member for Bromley. I very much chime with her words of | :41:29. | :41:33. | |
healing division and working for the will of the people. -- Burnley. This | :41:34. | :41:39. | |
is quite clearly an historic moment. The results of not only decades of | :41:40. | :41:43. | |
campaigning in this House but outside. It is also the result of a | :41:44. | :41:50. | |
decision by the people of the UK. It is perfectly reasonable and | :41:51. | :41:52. | |
perfectly rational that people should hold the view that we | :41:53. | :41:56. | |
shouldn't go ahead and free ourselves from Brussels, but to try | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
to frustrate the decision by 20 shall be referendum result was in | :42:01. | :42:05. | |
some way illegitimate or incomplete, so that others can impose their view | :42:06. | :42:08. | |
of what ought to have happened isn't really the ticket. No one voted | :42:09. | :42:15. | |
thinking, I will vote Leave because I'm pretty sure we will still remain | :42:16. | :42:20. | |
a member of the single market so it will be OK. No one said, I will vote | :42:21. | :42:24. | |
Leave because I'm pretty sure Parliament won't bowled to trigger | :42:25. | :42:30. | |
Article 50. -- vote. I'll vote Leave because I'm pretty sure that when | :42:31. | :42:33. | |
the final dealers put the parliament they will reject it. People voted | :42:34. | :42:39. | |
Leave because they wanted to leave. The two district councils which make | :42:40. | :42:43. | |
most of my constituency voted to leave by 13,000 votes. And they | :42:44. | :42:48. | |
voted to leave because they wanted to leave. That means triggering | :42:49. | :42:55. | |
Article 50. In their judgment, the Supreme Court made clear that once | :42:56. | :43:03. | |
given, Article 50 notice cannot be withdrawn. Therefore when this House | :43:04. | :43:06. | |
makes the decision on the final deal, when the choices put, it is | :43:07. | :43:11. | |
only to approve the deal. Our choices thereafter will be to | :43:12. | :43:16. | |
approve the deal, seek renegotiation or exit the EU with no deal. There | :43:17. | :43:20. | |
will be no option of remaining within the EU. This is the simple | :43:21. | :43:23. | |
choice. And we have a very short Bill, although we have a lot of long | :43:24. | :43:31. | |
amendments. Parliament can perfectly well contented itself with very | :43:32. | :43:34. | |
brief legislation and as many members of this House will know, | :43:35. | :43:41. | |
length need not equate to quality. But the PM's speech at Lancaster | :43:42. | :43:46. | |
House was the exception to that rule, setting out the 12 areas of | :43:47. | :43:49. | |
work the government will seek to address. The next two years imposes | :43:50. | :43:58. | |
an obligation on members of this House to heal the divisions and help | :43:59. | :44:03. | |
shape the negotiations, and ensure that our future relationship with | :44:04. | :44:07. | |
the EU emerges in a way that reflects an open, tolerant spirit of | :44:08. | :44:11. | |
exchange and accord without political control. And that we | :44:12. | :44:17. | |
should believe in the future just as the country did on June the 23rd | :44:18. | :44:25. | |
last year. Yesterday the Secretary of State | :44:26. | :44:29. | |
finished his speech by saying, for many years there has been a creeping | :44:30. | :44:32. | |
sense in this country that politicians say one thing and do | :44:33. | :44:36. | |
another. No I'm not sure which country he was talking about, | :44:37. | :44:40. | |
because the UK is a country of more than a smack a union of more than | :44:41. | :44:45. | |
one country. Insofar as the country of Scotland is concerned, the sense | :44:46. | :44:49. | |
that sometimes politicians say one thing and do another is more than a | :44:50. | :44:53. | |
creeping sense, it's a well founded and widespread concern and it | :44:54. | :45:01. | |
relates in particular to the party opposite, their Prime Minister and | :45:02. | :45:04. | |
their leader in Scotland. At the end of tonight we will be voting on an | :45:05. | :45:09. | |
SNP Amendment. I welcome the support further amendment. That amendment is | :45:10. | :45:15. | |
in part designed to ensure that the party opposite delivers on promises | :45:16. | :45:18. | |
made by politicians to the people of Scotland during the 2014 | :45:19. | :45:24. | |
Independence Referendum. Promises that were made by Ruth Davidson such | :45:25. | :45:28. | |
as voting to remain in the United Kingdom was a guarantee of our EU | :45:29. | :45:33. | |
citizenship, and promises made that Scotland was an equal partner in the | :45:34. | :45:38. | |
union. Listening to the debate yesterday you could be forgiven for | :45:39. | :45:40. | |
thinking that Scotland is seen as an unwelcome distraction from the main | :45:41. | :45:45. | |
event. The message seems to be, get back in your box and know your | :45:46. | :45:51. | |
place. Gone are the love bombs and they are replaced with instructions | :45:52. | :45:54. | |
to sit down and shot and put or put it. -- shut up. What happened in | :45:55. | :46:07. | |
2014 was that the question of Scotland's future membership of the | :46:08. | :46:10. | |
European Union was central to the Independence Referendum. The SNP and | :46:11. | :46:19. | |
the wider yes campaign warned a no vote was a threat to Scotland's | :46:20. | :46:25. | |
injured trade links. We said it was a threat to our membership of Europe | :46:26. | :46:33. | |
because of Tory Euroscepticism. I'd like to ask the honourable and | :46:34. | :46:39. | |
Leonard Lady if she agrees with me that there has been much | :46:40. | :46:42. | |
misreporting of the recent Supreme Court decision. While the | :46:43. | :46:48. | |
established that Scotland need not be consulted legally, there was no | :46:49. | :46:52. | |
requirement that Scotland should not be consulted constitutionally. Yes | :46:53. | :46:57. | |
indeed. My honourable friend is absolutely right. The Supreme Court | :46:58. | :47:03. | |
said, and I quote, the civil convention has an important role in | :47:04. | :47:07. | |
facilitating harmonious relationships between the UK | :47:08. | :47:11. | |
Parliament and devolved legislatures. The policing of its | :47:12. | :47:15. | |
scope does not lie within the constitutional remit of the | :47:16. | :47:18. | |
judiciary. Basically, it is up to the politicians. When we in the SNP | :47:19. | :47:25. | |
warned that staying in the UK was a threat to our EU membership, the no | :47:26. | :47:29. | |
campaign said we were scaremongering. Ruth Davidson said | :47:30. | :47:35. | |
no means we stay in the EU. The Lib Dems, Labour said to us that voting | :47:36. | :47:42. | |
to remain part of the UK guaranteed our EU membership. The question for | :47:43. | :47:45. | |
the Conservatives, Labour and the Lib Dems is this. What are they | :47:46. | :47:50. | |
going to do to deliver on the promises they made during the | :47:51. | :47:52. | |
Independence Referendum? What are they going to do to protect and | :47:53. | :48:00. | |
guaranteed that EU citizenship which they told us was guaranteed by | :48:01. | :48:05. | |
voting to remain in the UK? The Scottish government, unlike others, | :48:06. | :48:09. | |
has produced this document, a place in Europe. It has a detailed plan. | :48:10. | :48:15. | |
It is a plan which we heard from the Prime Minister's on lips today is | :48:16. | :48:18. | |
possible, because it is possible to have a soft and open border between | :48:19. | :48:21. | |
a country that is in the single market and a country that isn't. So | :48:22. | :48:28. | |
the question is for all people in this House, Labour, Lib Dem and | :48:29. | :48:33. | |
Tory, what are you going to do to deliver on the promises he made to | :48:34. | :48:37. | |
the people of Scotland? Or are you just going to sit there and admit | :48:38. | :48:46. | |
those promises were lies? This is a historic debate. I was | :48:47. | :48:50. | |
here during the Maastricht debates 25 years ago. It has been a long | :48:51. | :48:55. | |
campaign. The British people voted by a margin of 1.35 million to leave | :48:56. | :49:02. | |
the European Union. Two thirds of the constituencies in this country | :49:03. | :49:05. | |
voted to leave the European Union. And whilst I respect all my | :49:06. | :49:10. | |
constituents who voted to remain, and The Cotswolds voted very | :49:11. | :49:16. | |
narrowly to remain, 51% to 49%, I totally reject the Liberal Democrats | :49:17. | :49:21. | |
assertion that I cannot represent my constituents who voted to remain. | :49:22. | :49:25. | |
The British people have regained the sovereignty of this Parliament. We | :49:26. | :49:29. | |
will no longer be subject to the directors and regulations laid down | :49:30. | :49:33. | |
by Brussels. We will regain control of our borders. And above all, we | :49:34. | :49:37. | |
will be able to give reassurance to the Europeans living in this country | :49:38. | :49:42. | |
that they are welcome here, provided our European partners give | :49:43. | :49:45. | |
reciprocal rights to them. Mr Speaker, shorn of our EU competence | :49:46. | :49:54. | |
for trade, we will be able to regain our entrepreneurial spirit and go | :49:55. | :49:56. | |
around the world trading openly with all nations. Some people assert the | :49:57. | :50:02. | |
peace in Europe has been maintained by the European Union. I say the | :50:03. | :50:06. | |
peace in Europe has been maintained by Nato. And it is absolutely right | :50:07. | :50:11. | |
for our Prime Minister to make sure that all Nato members live by their | :50:12. | :50:17. | |
obligations of paying 2%. Mr Speaker, we, as many people have | :50:18. | :50:21. | |
said in this today, we will not be leaving Europe, we will be leaving | :50:22. | :50:27. | |
the European Union, but we are still neighbours without Europeans. They | :50:28. | :50:30. | |
will be friends. I think pragmatically we will do a deal for | :50:31. | :50:33. | |
this country that is in the interest of all the people of this country. | :50:34. | :50:38. | |
It is a by 's untimely complex negotiation that our colleagues on | :50:39. | :50:41. | |
the front bench are about to start. -- it by sand time, complex | :50:42. | :50:48. | |
negotiation. It is an opportunity to get the best deal we possibly can | :50:49. | :50:51. | |
for this country. I'm confident when our partners look at what we have | :50:52. | :50:55. | |
and what they have too offered to us, it would be pragmatically in | :50:56. | :50:59. | |
their interest to make sure we do a deal that suits both partners. I | :51:00. | :51:04. | |
simply say we will be set our relationship with Europe. It will be | :51:05. | :51:08. | |
uneasy relationship. It would be a relationship that all part of this | :51:09. | :51:12. | |
kingdom will be able to relate to, whether it is England, Scotland, | :51:13. | :51:16. | |
Wales or Northern Ireland. And I simply say to our Scottish | :51:17. | :51:22. | |
nationalist friends, in echoing Julius Caesar, beware of | :51:23. | :51:25. | |
referendums, you cannot be certain of what the result is going to be. | :51:26. | :51:32. | |
Mr Speaker, periodically a nation has to stand tall and say what ideas | :51:33. | :51:37. | |
it is driven by, what values lead its sense of direction and its | :51:38. | :51:41. | |
destiny. I am proud of all we have achieved as members of the European | :51:42. | :51:45. | |
Union in terms of our economy, our security, but also our peace between | :51:46. | :51:50. | |
nations, that twice in the last century have been at war. I | :51:51. | :51:54. | |
campaigned hard for Remain but I accept the result. I will not vote | :51:55. | :51:58. | |
against the second reading but I will not criticise others from | :51:59. | :52:01. | |
making a different choice. I am sad that tonight we will take the first | :52:02. | :52:06. | |
step in this House in what I believe is the wrong direction for this | :52:07. | :52:10. | |
country. In which I was proud to be born, that has shaped me through its | :52:11. | :52:14. | |
openness and generosity of spirit, my very firm sense of partnership | :52:15. | :52:18. | |
with other nations and the need for internationalist politics. The | :52:19. | :52:20. | |
responsibility now of this government has never been greater. | :52:21. | :52:26. | |
This must not be or feel like the end of the debate. It is right that | :52:27. | :52:31. | |
tomorrow the government will be publishing a white paper. It is | :52:32. | :52:34. | |
wrong that we didn't have it before. It is right that we have a vote. It | :52:35. | :52:38. | |
is wrong but it took the Supreme Court to make it happen. Voting for | :52:39. | :52:42. | |
Article 50 today is not a blank cheque. But it must be for this | :52:43. | :52:48. | |
House to be consulted and to bin include -- meaningfully vote on the | :52:49. | :52:53. | |
final deal. This bill has been written to limit the ability of MPs | :52:54. | :52:58. | |
to amend it. It is clear the views and opinions of members of this | :52:59. | :53:01. | |
house will not be silenced. I want to make three broad point in | :53:02. | :53:05. | |
contribution to this debate. We should not rule out membership of | :53:06. | :53:08. | |
the single market, but instead make the case EU wide reforms of freedom | :53:09. | :53:12. | |
of movement that can give member states greater control if they wish | :53:13. | :53:18. | |
it. Secondly, we must engage the public. That's why I believe the | :53:19. | :53:21. | |
Prime Minister should bring forward a national convention which includes | :53:22. | :53:27. | |
MEPs, elected mayor 's, devolved administrations, local government, | :53:28. | :53:30. | |
universities, higher education, civil society and others. The public | :53:31. | :53:34. | |
were asked their view about membership of the European Union. | :53:35. | :53:36. | |
They should be properly involved in a discussion and debate about our | :53:37. | :53:42. | |
future. And thirdly, on the needs of our young people, they are our | :53:43. | :53:45. | |
future and we have a stake in their success. How we conduct this debate | :53:46. | :53:50. | |
and make decisions, the language we use and the way we build | :53:51. | :53:55. | |
relationships between young people across borders, will be the gift | :53:56. | :53:59. | |
would give the next generation. On the government to set priority on | :54:00. | :54:04. | |
young people in the negotiations, retaining the rights and | :54:05. | :54:06. | |
opportunities for young people to work, study and travel, these are | :54:07. | :54:10. | |
free if they are under 25, so they do not become worse off than their | :54:11. | :54:15. | |
European counterparts. Mr Speaker, the referendum was not a proud | :54:16. | :54:19. | |
moment in our history. But there is more than one way to Brexit. There | :54:20. | :54:22. | |
are risks and we must be open about that. But we must also have an | :54:23. | :54:28. | |
evidenced based -- evidence -based debate. Our future depends on it. It | :54:29. | :54:35. | |
is a pleasure to follow the Honourable lady. Like her, I | :54:36. | :54:42. | |
campaigned for Remain. I did it passionately. I argued if we left we | :54:43. | :54:45. | |
would miss the opportunity of being the largest country in the U -- EU | :54:46. | :54:50. | |
that's not in the euro. But that's gone. I accept that. I would support | :54:51. | :54:55. | |
this bill because having voted for the referendum act, one of the first | :54:56. | :54:59. | |
pieces of legislation I voted for as a new MP, would be reneging in the | :55:00. | :55:02. | |
most extraordinary way if I turned against that just because I | :55:03. | :55:06. | |
campaigned on the other side. This doesn't mean I do not have concerns. | :55:07. | :55:10. | |
There are two areas where I am worried. The first is on trade. At | :55:11. | :55:15. | |
all costs we must avoid a game of protectionist chicken with the EU. | :55:16. | :55:19. | |
That can happen. Particularly when we know what is going on in | :55:20. | :55:23. | |
Washington, where we have an openly protectionist president. Be under no | :55:24. | :55:28. | |
illusions. Not Project Fear. If protectionism breaks down on both | :55:29. | :55:31. | |
sides of the Atlantic, we could have a severe crisis and we know where | :55:32. | :55:34. | |
that finishes. The other point is on immigration. It is absolutely right | :55:35. | :55:39. | |
that we cannot control immigration unless we leave the EU. But we | :55:40. | :55:45. | |
cannot reduce the numbers, which is what the public want, unless we have | :55:46. | :55:49. | |
a native British workforce that is willing and able and available in | :55:50. | :55:53. | |
sufficient numbers to step into the breach if the immigration shutters | :55:54. | :55:58. | |
come down. And the select committee which I recently joined, we have | :55:59. | :56:01. | |
held evidence sessions on this unheard from employers who are | :56:02. | :56:04. | |
completely dependent on migrant labour. And he struggled to recruit | :56:05. | :56:08. | |
locally, including the care sector, construction. These are vital part | :56:09. | :56:12. | |
of our economy. We should not pretend to the British people | :56:13. | :56:15. | |
immigration will be slashed if we leave. There is one part of it that | :56:16. | :56:19. | |
I think it's particularly important we discuss. It is not true there are | :56:20. | :56:29. | |
no restrictions on EU migration. You cannot come to this country as a | :56:30. | :56:32. | |
non-skilled migrant, which includes many skilled people, if you are from | :56:33. | :56:39. | |
outside the EU. You can only legally come in from the EU. I think we | :56:40. | :56:41. | |
should be cost is by changing that. I do not think the British people | :56:42. | :56:53. | |
would support and skilled migration to this country. We have to debate | :56:54. | :56:59. | |
that and be open with it. -- unskilled migration. We have to | :57:00. | :57:04. | |
support the will of the people. We are Democrats. Do it in an open and | :57:05. | :57:11. | |
United Way. The National interest is served by maximum unity. I give way | :57:12. | :57:19. | |
to my honourable friend. I thank my honourable friend and son-in-law | :57:20. | :57:21. | |
forgiving way. I want to endorse what he has said. It is possible, on | :57:22. | :57:28. | |
this very divisive and complex issue, it is possible, not only in | :57:29. | :57:36. | |
the same family and party, to have different views. And yet look | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
forward to being united to support the best possible future for our | :57:41. | :57:44. | |
country. The local paper did speculate on this matter. When asked | :57:45. | :57:50. | |
about my wife's views, I said, she is my father-in-law's daughter. On | :57:51. | :57:59. | |
the morning after the referendum... Not just biologically, in spirit, | :58:00. | :58:03. | |
obviously. I bought her a bottle of champagne and congratulated her. She | :58:04. | :58:07. | |
was on the winning side. We have to unite unsure winning spirit in | :58:08. | :58:11. | |
negotiations with Europe. We have to have a deal in the interests as | :58:12. | :58:15. | |
well. That is why it is about openness, free trade and a positive | :58:16. | :58:20. | |
Brexit. We can all get behind that and we should all get behind it and | :58:21. | :58:23. | |
we do that by voting for this bill tonight. Thank you. When I | :58:24. | :58:30. | |
campaigned as one of a fairly Billy God minority in the Labour Party in | :58:31. | :58:36. | |
the 1970s to join the EU, little did I think that in many years hence I | :58:37. | :58:41. | |
would be standing up today to vote in favour of triggering the | :58:42. | :58:48. | |
negotiations for our exit. But I am. It is against all my instincts and | :58:49. | :58:53. | |
preference for an international way of delivering a business and it is | :58:54. | :58:59. | |
also against the economic logic which says that a large and | :59:00. | :59:05. | |
uniformly regulated market is a prerequisite for the fast-growing | :59:06. | :59:08. | |
economy and the benefits that accrue from it. But I am going to, | :59:09. | :59:15. | |
basically for three reasons. The first is the democratic argument | :59:16. | :59:19. | |
that has been articulated by many. There is a lack of faith in | :59:20. | :59:23. | |
Parliament and democratic institutions. For Parliament and | :59:24. | :59:32. | |
politicians to win an election on a promise of a referendum, to hold a | :59:33. | :59:35. | |
referendum and then to actually not implement the result of that | :59:36. | :59:40. | |
referendum has profound implications in terms of faith in our democratic | :59:41. | :59:50. | |
system. I also believe that, given the complexities and difficulties of | :59:51. | :59:53. | |
the negotiations that we are going to be confronted with, the public | :59:54. | :59:58. | |
will expect this Parliament to do is very best to implement the will that | :59:59. | :00:05. | |
they have expressed. What I do not want to see is conspiracy being able | :00:06. | :00:13. | |
to blame the real problems that will arise from negotiations on the | :00:14. | :00:16. | |
reluctance of parliament, rather than the difficult issues that they | :00:17. | :00:24. | |
are being confronted with. I also support it because I think it is in | :00:25. | :00:27. | |
the interests of business. A decision has been made. My | :00:28. | :00:32. | |
discussions with businesses run along the lines of, we would prefer | :00:33. | :00:35. | |
to remain in, but we recognise that we are coming out. What we want is | :00:36. | :00:41. | |
certainty about the future trade relationships we're going to have. | :00:42. | :00:47. | |
That will depend on investment decisions, recruitment decisions and | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
until we start to negotiate and try to shape the sort of future that our | :00:53. | :00:58. | |
businesses will be confronted with, that uncertainty will continue and | :00:59. | :01:07. | |
it will severely affect the economy. Mr Speaker, I make it clear that in | :01:08. | :01:13. | |
voting to trigger Article 50, I not committing myself to accept the | :01:14. | :01:17. | |
finer outcome. I will work with others to ensure that we shaped | :01:18. | :01:21. | |
negotiations in a way that will be beneficial. And they reserve the | :01:22. | :01:25. | |
right to vote against it subsequently if I do not feel that | :01:26. | :01:33. | |
is so. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My constituents have a great deal of | :01:34. | :01:38. | |
common sense. They are intelligent and fought for. They go about their | :01:39. | :01:43. | |
lives with incredible diligence. When people have written to me | :01:44. | :01:46. | |
saying that they did not understand what they were voting for, I don't | :01:47. | :01:51. | |
believe that because I know my constituents and I trust in them. We | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
trust in them enough to put them on Julie 's -- jury duty and their | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
trust in them enough to make a decision when exercising a vote. I | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
also argued for, remain. I believe the Prime Minister when he said he | :02:07. | :02:11. | |
would go to Europe and seek to negotiate a better deal for Britain. | :02:12. | :02:18. | |
And he went out there and he went there in good faith. He played those | :02:19. | :02:23. | |
negotiations with a straight bat, Mr Speaker. But, unfortunately, to | :02:24. | :02:29. | |
paraphrase another speech in this House, not only did he find out when | :02:30. | :02:33. | |
the game back here to stand at the crease that his bat had been broken, | :02:34. | :02:38. | |
his shoes had been nicked and the stumps were hidden. He was hampered | :02:39. | :02:43. | |
by Europe's failure to recognise that it needed reform and it needed | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
to deal with the crucial issue of free movement. That failure to | :02:48. | :02:55. | |
recognise the concerns that Britain and the Prime Minister was raising, | :02:56. | :03:02. | |
I think they are great deal of responsibility in the outcome of the | :03:03. | :03:06. | |
vote. It was a deep concern to me when I heard the member for | :03:07. | :03:12. | |
Sheffield Hallam yesterday talking about him having it on data for the | :03:13. | :03:15. | |
day that the Germans have offered some deal after the referendum of an | :03:16. | :03:21. | |
emergency brake. If it was on the table and that was something that | :03:22. | :03:24. | |
was willing to be signed up to, it was far too late to do it afterwards | :03:25. | :03:31. | |
and after there were drastic consequences for this country. I | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
welcome the approach of the Prime Minister and the fact that she wants | :03:37. | :03:40. | |
to reach out globally. That we are leaving the US institutions but | :03:41. | :03:46. | |
we're not leaving... -- EU institutions. We are members of | :03:47. | :03:49. | |
Europe even if not members of the EU institutions. It is vital that we | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
build on those links and continue to look outwards. That we work on | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
cooperation in crime, terrorism and national to. And that we negotiate | :03:59. | :04:06. | |
for the best you in terms of our economy. -- and national security. | :04:07. | :04:10. | |
My constituents know that there was a risk to the economy. It was | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
explained very seriously to them. As the honourable member for Haslemere | :04:16. | :04:23. | |
suggest the -- said yesterday, those risks were understood and accepted | :04:24. | :04:26. | |
by the British electorate when they voted out. We have to respect that | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
decision and I will work on delivering the best outcome for my | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
constituents. Benjamin Franklin famously said, if | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
you fail to plan, you plan to fail. That is what this Tory Government | :04:41. | :04:45. | |
has done over Brexit. Leaving the supposedly equal family of nations | :04:46. | :04:48. | |
with a very stark choice. If you will indulge me, I pay tribute to | :04:49. | :04:51. | |
Irving Welsh, Danny Boyle and Ewan McGregor because I saw the train | :04:52. | :04:56. | |
spotting sequel recently and it inspired me. Choose Brexit, choose | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
making up numbers and plastering them on the side of buses. Choose | :05:02. | :05:07. | |
racist and xenophobic sentiment from some corners of the league campaign. | :05:08. | :05:13. | |
Choose hate crime, rising by over 40%, and LGBT Hate Crime Pack over | :05:14. | :05:16. | |
150 present in England and will is following Brexit board. Choose | :05:17. | :05:24. | |
taking to the -- people to the polls with no plan. Choose ignoring the | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
people of Scotland and my constituents in Livingston, despite | :05:30. | :05:31. | |
voting overwhelmingly to remain in the EU. Choose leaving the single | :05:32. | :05:37. | |
market, risking thousands of jobs and costing the people in Scotland | :05:38. | :05:44. | |
and average of 2000 -- ?2000 in wages. Choose vital EU workers' | :05:45. | :05:56. | |
safety being under threat. Choose risking international standing in | :05:57. | :05:58. | |
academic, research and innovation communities as below is access to | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
funding, expertise and people from the EU. Choose the great Brexit | :06:04. | :06:13. | |
power grab. Taking back control of straight on an Apple Mac. Choose | :06:14. | :06:19. | |
returning to the Thatcher era of poverty and asperity. Choose the UK | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
turning its back on Europe. These are not the choices be Scottish | :06:25. | :06:26. | |
people made. Scotland chose differently. Scotland chose to look | :06:27. | :06:33. | |
outward, to face the world and embrace the EU and all of the | :06:34. | :06:35. | |
protections and advantages it brings. Scotland chooses life in the | :06:36. | :06:41. | |
European Union. Not a hard Tory Brexit. This Tory Government must | :06:42. | :06:47. | |
respect that. Mr Speaker, a member opposite quoted Churchill, saying it | :06:48. | :06:50. | |
could well be the end of the beginning of this Brexit process. I | :06:51. | :06:54. | |
say to the members opposite, if they do not respect the democratic will | :06:55. | :06:57. | |
of the Scottish people to remain in the EU, it will be the beginning of | :06:58. | :07:06. | |
the end of this disunited kingdom. This evening, I will vote to begin | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
formal process of leaving the EU because, though I voted Remain, the | :07:11. | :07:17. | |
referendum result was clear. In my constituency and in the country as a | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
whole, the majority voted to leave. Had the result gone the other way, | :07:22. | :07:28. | |
all of us who voted Remain would have expected that result to be | :07:29. | :07:31. | |
honoured. Whether voting to remain on leave, British people voted last | :07:32. | :07:34. | |
year in the expectation that the Government would enact that result. | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
So we must see it through. But the referendum has shone a light on | :07:40. | :07:45. | |
divisions in British society. The divide between those for whom life | :07:46. | :07:49. | |
is working out, full of opportunity, and those for whom life seems to be | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
going nowhere. If we think people are angry and divided now, just | :07:54. | :07:58. | |
think what anger there would be if MPs rejected the referendum result, | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
effectively killing so many voters that they had got it wrong. -- | :08:03. | :08:07. | |
effectively telling so many voters. The job of the Government is to make | :08:08. | :08:11. | |
success of Brexit. And tackle the problems the referendum has laid | :08:12. | :08:17. | |
bare. As a first step, we have to give the Prime Minister the school | :08:18. | :08:19. | |
to negotiate the best possible Brexit deal. To those who asked for | :08:20. | :08:25. | |
more than more detail at this time, in my experience they go shooting on | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
business deals, at a much smaller scale, giving details we does not | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
generally enable you to secure a better deal. We need to be clear, | :08:36. | :08:42. | |
you will walk away if you do not get a good deal, as the Prime Minister | :08:43. | :08:46. | |
has been. To those who want a second referendum to choose between a final | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
deal and staying in, I ask them, could there be any stronger | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
incentive for the European Union to offer us an attractive exit terms? | :08:56. | :09:00. | |
It might be in political interests but it is not in the UK's interest. | :09:01. | :09:08. | |
Mr Speaker, now we must get on with it and use this time of change as an | :09:09. | :09:11. | |
opportunity to frame the sort of country we want to merge. We want to | :09:12. | :09:18. | |
open Britain, engaging with Europe and the world, offering | :09:19. | :09:20. | |
opportunities to all with confidence in identity and prospects. That | :09:21. | :09:25. | |
confidence will enable people to be tolerant and welcoming. That is the | :09:26. | :09:31. | |
task ahead. When we have one of the referendum result and enacted this | :09:32. | :09:35. | |
bill. -- ordered the referendum result. | :09:36. | :09:42. | |
Thank you. This is a debate, like many others, that I hoped would not | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
take place. I campaigned to can-mac remain in the belief that it was the | :09:47. | :09:49. | |
best way to detect jobs and stability for my constituents. | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
However, my constituency voted with a clear margin to leave. I respect | :09:55. | :09:59. | |
the democratic process and the views of all of my colleagues and my | :10:00. | :10:02. | |
constituents and I will be voting for this bill tonight. Now that | :10:03. | :10:08. | |
we're having this debate, I have to speak up and fight for the people I | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
was elected to serve. For decades, the benefits of the EU will not | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
sorted people. The European Parliament was shrouded in mystery, | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
leaving a vacuum for Ukip to sell an alternative narrative of what the EU | :10:21. | :10:28. | |
does for us. During the campaign, it felt like I was trying to share with | :10:29. | :10:31. | |
people in a few months things we should all have been sharing with | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
them for years. I was trying to campaign in the referendum against | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
the backdrop of an increasingly dark and globalised world where things | :10:40. | :10:41. | |
are constantly shifting at an alarming pace. Where intolerable | :10:42. | :10:46. | |
cruelty has been inflicted on people because of race and a legend. Where | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
people are being displaced and humanitarian crisis -- crises are | :10:51. | :11:00. | |
happening. And the old answers to the world's problems are not coming | :11:01. | :11:04. | |
from our politicians any more. The vacuum left in British politics is | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
we MPs and party struggle to respond to this change, filled with divisive | :11:10. | :11:18. | |
and racist rhetoric that has created an isolationist environment. It is | :11:19. | :11:22. | |
no surprise when you throw in the mix experiences like my own dad's | :11:23. | :11:28. | |
that many people voted out. My dad is a retired welder. He is kind, | :11:29. | :11:31. | |
considerate and hard-working. He used to work on the shipyards with | :11:32. | :11:36. | |
economic migrants from Europe who worked alongside him. He hated | :11:37. | :11:39. | |
seeing them being exploited. He wanted them to have rights and he | :11:40. | :11:42. | |
wanted them to have the same terms and conditions in paid Etihad. -- in | :11:43. | :11:49. | |
payment that he had. But they were exploited to such a degree that you | :11:50. | :11:53. | |
got those could be so little it was no longer agribusiness model to | :11:54. | :11:56. | |
employ people like my dad there. In short, he lost his job. | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
People lose faith and they become angry. No government should never | :12:02. | :12:08. | |
underestimate what unemployment can do to people, their family, their | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
communities, because these scars last. This referendum was a chance | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
for people like my dad to vent their hurt. In areas like mine this | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
referendum was last a very long time ago. For me, this bill is about just | :12:22. | :12:31. | |
one thing. It is about process. Like many other honourable members, I | :12:32. | :12:35. | |
began on the Brexit Road to Damascus by advocating that Britain remain in | :12:36. | :12:41. | |
the EU. That is because I'm a pragmatist. I personally believe | :12:42. | :12:47. | |
that on balance retaining EU membership was the safe option for | :12:48. | :12:52. | |
Britain economically and socially. However, the collective majority of | :12:53. | :12:56. | |
the British people, including the overwhelming majority of my own | :12:57. | :13:00. | |
constituents, disagreed with that view and except that now we must | :13:01. | :13:05. | |
leave. The debate on the nuts and bolts of our exit deal after another | :13:06. | :13:10. | |
day. This bill is not about which laws to keep or abolished, or about | :13:11. | :13:17. | |
our future trade relationships. It is not about how we share our | :13:18. | :13:22. | |
security interests. Today is about the mechanism that will enable us to | :13:23. | :13:25. | |
begin having these discussions and debates. Not only between ourselves | :13:26. | :13:31. | |
in this House, but more importantly the other 27 member states. So it | :13:32. | :13:37. | |
comes down to the core question the Secretary of State poses today in | :13:38. | :13:41. | |
his opening speech. We trust the people or not? Whilst I've been | :13:42. | :13:47. | |
quick to learn that we are required to take some difficult and unpopular | :13:48. | :13:50. | |
decisions as members of Parliament which can be contrary to the views | :13:51. | :13:54. | |
expressed by some of my constituents, on this particular | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
issue I choose to trust the people will vote this evening. | :14:00. | :14:08. | |
Make no mistake, we are leaving the European Union. The referendum seven | :14:09. | :14:12. | |
months ago settled that issue. Today's vote is not about whether | :14:13. | :14:18. | |
you have a leave Arkansas -- Laura Main constituency. This bill is | :14:19. | :14:20. | |
about green lighting the Prime Minister and error approach to | :14:21. | :14:24. | |
Brexit, and her approach to Parliamentary scrutiny. To a fast | :14:25. | :14:32. | |
tracked processed avoid of any detail for triggering Article 50 in | :14:33. | :14:35. | |
March when key European allies will have elections distracting them. To | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
the grudging promise of a White Paper tomorrow to replace the blank | :14:41. | :14:46. | |
paper we currently have. Those of us who campaigned for Remain know that | :14:47. | :14:51. | |
Brexit is to happen. But how we green-lighted is a different matter. | :14:52. | :14:54. | |
And all of us have two ask ourselves whether we are confident that as | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
things stand, this government is going to get the best or even a good | :15:00. | :15:05. | |
deal for our country. I cannot answer that question yes. And this | :15:06. | :15:09. | |
bill is our only opportunity to send the Prime Minister back to the | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
drawing board, both on the process and the purpose of negotiation. In | :15:14. | :15:18. | |
the short time available to me there are three points that Walthamstow | :15:19. | :15:22. | |
residents, when we met on Sunday, wanted to make clear. Because they | :15:23. | :15:26. | |
understand there are many different ways that Brexit can happen. But | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
they get the importance of the single market being part of the | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
negotiations. But when 50% of goods cross borders at least twice before | :15:36. | :15:39. | |
they hit the shop floor, what we are talking about is more red tape for | :15:40. | :15:44. | |
British businesses. But a government that abandons the Customs Union and | :15:45. | :15:50. | |
a common commercial policy for a form membership that doesn't even | :15:51. | :15:54. | |
exist, puts thousands of jobs at risk. The Secretary of State himself | :15:55. | :15:59. | |
said businesses would ensure that trade with Britain continues | :16:00. | :16:04. | |
uninterrupted and under similar circumstances. That is clearly not | :16:05. | :16:07. | |
the case and the British public deserve better. Walthamstow also | :16:08. | :16:12. | |
wants rights for EU citizens confirmed, not to be used as | :16:13. | :16:20. | |
bargaining chips. Walthamstow once their employment rights protected. | :16:21. | :16:25. | |
The government was already talking about extending the erosion of | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
employment rights. This is not a done deal. My neighbour yesterday, | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
the member for Chingford and Woodford Green, said he was voting | :16:35. | :16:37. | |
to trigger Article 50 simply because of all the mistakes of the past. | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
While I cannot green light Article 50 tonight because of all the | :16:43. | :16:45. | |
opportunities of the future that it puts at stake. I am a proud patriot. | :16:46. | :16:50. | |
I am proud of my country. I want the best for my country. We can and we | :16:51. | :16:55. | |
should be doing better. We can trigger this process now. We must | :16:56. | :16:59. | |
rethink and go back to the drawing board for the sake of everybody we | :17:00. | :17:05. | |
represent, whether Leave or Remain. It is quite clear that night's vote | :17:06. | :17:09. | |
is an historic event. And I personally can did an incredible | :17:10. | :17:13. | |
honour to be here at this time in this Parliament being able to cast | :17:14. | :17:23. | |
my vote in this debate. People have often asked me how long I have been | :17:24. | :17:27. | |
a Eurosceptic. I often reply, for as long as I knew what one was. Growing | :17:28. | :17:34. | |
up in Cornwall I witnessed the impact that EU bureaucracy and | :17:35. | :17:38. | |
regulation had on our communities. How it strangled our fishing | :17:39. | :17:42. | |
communities. Howerd overburdened our agricultural sector with red tape | :17:43. | :17:46. | |
and bureaucracy that meant they were not able to operate in the way that | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
they felt best. And I personally waited for the negotiation with the | :17:52. | :17:54. | |
former Prime Minister before deciding how I was going to cast my | :17:55. | :17:58. | |
vote in this referendum. And it "Clear to me that despite all the | :17:59. | :18:05. | |
rhetoric, the EU or not willing or prepared to change, that they were | :18:06. | :18:09. | |
set on continuing because they had been on for some time. That was for | :18:10. | :18:13. | |
me the final straw that made me decide that casting my vote to leave | :18:14. | :18:16. | |
was the right thing to do. It was then a great relief to me when the | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
constituency I represent also agreed with me and voted 62% to leave as | :18:23. | :18:27. | |
well. I find it an easy position to be into night. It is not only my | :18:28. | :18:33. | |
personal view but it is the view of the vast majority of my constituents | :18:34. | :18:35. | |
that we should leave the European Union. Since the referendum result | :18:36. | :18:43. | |
I'm even more convinced it was the right decision. That it the right | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
thing to do. What I have detected is a new confidence in the country. A | :18:49. | :18:54. | |
new positive approach, a new outward looking approach. Business people I | :18:55. | :18:58. | |
speak to, despite the predicted doom and gloom, has said they are | :18:59. | :19:00. | |
positive about the future and what they want is the government to take | :19:01. | :19:05. | |
a clear lead, to set a clear direction, and I welcome the Prime | :19:06. | :19:10. | |
Minister's approach in doing that, in setting out where we are taking | :19:11. | :19:14. | |
our country as we negotiate to leave. And it's been quite clear | :19:15. | :19:17. | |
that all of the predictions of Project Fear about what would happen | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
when we decided to leave are being proved to be completely unfounded. | :19:22. | :19:27. | |
And what we find now is companies investing in the UK and the media | :19:28. | :19:31. | |
say, despite Brexit, they are investing here. I would like to say, | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
just maybe it should be because of Brexit they are investing here. | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
Because they are confident about the future of our country. Let me say | :19:41. | :19:46. | |
that I believe to night's historic vote gives us the opportunity to | :19:47. | :19:50. | |
start writing a new chapter for our country. Our country that has a long | :19:51. | :19:55. | |
and great history of standing up positively and looking at the world | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
and engaging with the world. I view to night's vote as the next step in | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
writing a new chapter for our great nation. | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
The European Union is a bureaucratic, cumbersome system. But | :20:09. | :20:13. | |
it is the longest and most successful peace process the world | :20:14. | :20:17. | |
has ever seen, transforming historic enemies into trading partners, | :20:18. | :20:20. | |
allies and friends. It gave hope to those labouring under the yoke of | :20:21. | :20:25. | |
communism and it has protected workers, consumers and environment, | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
supported the Northern Ireland peace process, and driven Britain's | :20:30. | :20:33. | |
economy, innovation and prosperity. I did not vote to hold a referendum | :20:34. | :20:39. | |
and I campaigned to remain. People in my constituency voted to leave. | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
My labour values, solidarity, internationalism, social justice, | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
say something else. Because I see the Prime Minister talking about | :20:49. | :20:52. | |
free trade but walking out on the largest free-trade area in the | :20:53. | :20:56. | |
world. To chase an imaginary trade deal with Donald Trump. A trade deal | :20:57. | :21:02. | |
with the USA is a distraction. The most important trade deal is the one | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
we negotiate with the European Union. That deal determines whether | :21:07. | :21:14. | |
a company in Wakefield faced tariffs on what they export. Or if Wakefield | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
farmers face tariffs on the land they export to Belgium. The Prime | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
Minister has a weak negotiating hand but she has thrown her cards on the | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
table before the other players and even sat down, rejecting sting in | :21:28. | :21:31. | |
the single market, worth 44% of UK experts currently go tariff free. | :21:32. | :21:35. | |
This hard Brexit was not what Leave campaigners promised in the | :21:36. | :21:40. | |
referendum. The UK's access to the largest free-trade area in the world | :21:41. | :21:44. | |
will be worse after 2019. That puts thousands of British jobs at risk. | :21:45. | :21:48. | |
An open society without discrimination is the founding | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
pillar of our British and European identity. And since the referendum, | :21:54. | :22:01. | |
hate crime and far-right right activity is up. My father died in | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
October. His last vote was to remain in the EU. He came to Britain from | :22:07. | :22:12. | |
Ireland to get an education, race 's family, work and pay his taxes. | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
After Brexit, someone like him without a degree from eastern | :22:18. | :22:20. | |
Europe, will face barriers to come here. I hope we are better than | :22:21. | :22:24. | |
that. To the people of Wakefield I have always sought to act in your | :22:25. | :22:29. | |
best interests. My duty is to make your lives better. You did not elect | :22:30. | :22:33. | |
me to make you poorer, destroy your jobs and we Kinyor public services. | :22:34. | :22:38. | |
My judgment as someone who has lived in Belgium and Italy and worked with | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
entrepreneurs for seven years, as an elected Labour public servant for | :22:44. | :22:46. | |
seven years, my judgment is this vote will make people in Wakefield | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
poorer, will destroy jobs and businesses, remove social, consumer | :22:52. | :22:55. | |
and environmental rights, and reduce the tax base that funds the NHS and | :22:56. | :22:59. | |
schools and public services. History has its eyes on horse today. I can | :23:00. | :23:04. | |
no more vote for this than I can vote against my conscience. It is | :23:05. | :23:08. | |
against my values. I can no more vote for this than I can vote | :23:09. | :23:17. | |
against my own DNA. My constituency voted to remain by a | :23:18. | :23:21. | |
large margin. I voted to remain. Coming to the conclusion that I | :23:22. | :23:28. | |
believe I should support this bill this evening has been a very | :23:29. | :23:33. | |
difficult one to make. In 2015, I stood on the manifesto that promised | :23:34. | :23:37. | |
a referendum. Soon after, I voted in favour of the bill to put that | :23:38. | :23:41. | |
referendum before the British people. In December, I voted for a | :23:42. | :23:45. | |
motion calling on the comment to invoke Article 50 by the end of | :23:46. | :23:50. | |
March. I did so because the democratic process has been | :23:51. | :23:53. | |
undertaken and it would be wrong of me to ignore that result. I was | :23:54. | :23:59. | |
disappointed by the result of the referendum. But we cannot continue | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
this indecision and uncertainty indefinitely. To vote against | :24:05. | :24:10. | |
triggering Article 50 would prolong that uncertainty. We will leave the | :24:11. | :24:16. | |
European Union. That much is for sure. And delaying the process, | :24:17. | :24:23. | |
which is in effect all that that vote would achieve, can only have | :24:24. | :24:28. | |
negative indications for our economy. Any attempt to overturn | :24:29. | :24:35. | |
that decision would damage the reputation this country has for our | :24:36. | :24:41. | |
democracy, which we all in this place prize so highly. In my view | :24:42. | :24:48. | |
it's now time for this House and the nation to come together. Not only | :24:49. | :24:55. | |
mitigating the risks of Brexit, but exploiting the opportunities. The | :24:56. | :24:58. | |
best interests of our constituents, must be promoted and protected. | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
Whether through trade or and industrial strategy. Warwick and | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
Leamington is home to a thriving local economy. A superb education | :25:07. | :25:12. | |
system. And constituents with outward looking and inclusive... I | :25:13. | :25:21. | |
do not believe that this has or will change due to impending exit from | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
the EU. Now is the time to set out a positive vision for the UK and | :25:26. | :25:35. | |
turned that vision into a reality. It's an honour to speak in such an | :25:36. | :25:42. | |
historic debate. As a passionate pro-European, a proud Londoner and | :25:43. | :25:46. | |
someone who comes from a background in which Britain was a welcoming | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
home to me and my family, and a constituency where almost 70% of the | :25:52. | :25:57. | |
electorate vote to remain, it goes without saying that this is a bill | :25:58. | :26:02. | |
that I wish I didn't have too vote on. The decision to trigger Article | :26:03. | :26:11. | |
50 to leave the European Union today is a process that, once it begins, | :26:12. | :26:15. | |
can't be stopped. There is no turning back. Mr Speaker, I don't | :26:16. | :26:20. | |
agree with the Prime Minister's plan to take bus out of the single | :26:21. | :26:24. | |
currency and the Customs Union because the effects will be | :26:25. | :26:27. | |
dangerous and devastating to our economy. And that is well understood | :26:28. | :26:34. | |
and well documented when it concerns the City of London and Canary Wharf, | :26:35. | :26:37. | |
which my constituency borders on, were some 70,000 to 100,000 jobs are | :26:38. | :26:40. | |
at risk. It is not just the jobs of | :26:41. | :26:50. | |
financiers at the top end, it is the receptionists, caterers and all the | :26:51. | :26:54. | |
people who serve the can-mac Wharf and all those jobs. -- who serve the | :26:55. | :27:03. | |
city and Canary Wharf. This sector contributes around 2 million jobs in | :27:04. | :27:10. | |
the country and loss of revenue for public expenditure. It is really | :27:11. | :27:13. | |
important we do not throw the baby out of the bath water, which I feel | :27:14. | :27:17. | |
this plan to leave the single market will lead to. And of course, our | :27:18. | :27:24. | |
rights, hard-won workers' writes, women's rights and the protections | :27:25. | :27:33. | |
of human rights which are seen and admired all over the world. These | :27:34. | :27:39. | |
are the things we have put at risk, as well as investment in public | :27:40. | :27:41. | |
services, because these decisions will cost early. It will be deeply | :27:42. | :27:46. | |
problematic and damaging to our economy. Some 44% of our exports is | :27:47. | :27:55. | |
with the EU. Even the head of the WTO indicated that if we leave and | :27:56. | :28:01. | |
end up on WTO terms, UK consumers will lose some 9 billion. Mr | :28:02. | :28:09. | |
Speaker, it is because of the damage that this change in move away from | :28:10. | :28:12. | |
the single market will do to my constituents, but and down the | :28:13. | :28:18. | |
country to our economy, and our rights, that I cannot support | :28:19. | :28:21. | |
triggering Article 50. I do not believe it is in our national | :28:22. | :28:24. | |
interests. I do not believe it is in our interests as a country that is | :28:25. | :28:29. | |
supposed to be outward looking and internationalist. I do not believe | :28:30. | :28:34. | |
it is in the interest of future generations. | :28:35. | :28:40. | |
About 20 years ago, my own political career was launched on the back of a | :28:41. | :28:44. | |
field referendum campaign when I and many others failed to prevent the | :28:45. | :28:48. | |
Welsh Assembly from being set up. I am reminded very much of those days | :28:49. | :28:52. | |
as I look at what is happening at the moment because it was a very | :28:53. | :28:56. | |
divisive campaign in Wales. There were all sorts of promises made | :28:57. | :28:59. | |
which I feel I've never actually been kept. It was a huge | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
constitutional change for us. There were divisions within wheels and | :29:04. | :29:10. | |
threats and altercations. -- within Wales. John Prescott came to Newport | :29:11. | :29:20. | |
town centre and I don't campaign was removed from the streets. The | :29:21. | :29:25. | |
resulting fracas made the news at ten. I won't reveal the identity of | :29:26. | :29:30. | |
the person involved. Yes, all right then, it was me! There was a great | :29:31. | :29:38. | |
discussion that took place and I remember it happening in Cardiff. We | :29:39. | :29:42. | |
said only one in four people had voted for this Welsh Assembly. It | :29:43. | :29:45. | |
went through on a much narrower margin than the referendum we have | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
just had. What are we going to do? Some of us, and I think I was one of | :29:50. | :29:53. | |
the diehards, said flights carry on fighting it. Let's fight it in | :29:54. | :29:58. | |
Parliament and get out in the media, which do the whole campaign. I did | :29:59. | :30:01. | |
not think about the courts at the time but we did have any hedge | :30:02. | :30:05. | |
funders behind us, otherwise I might have done. There were wiser voices, | :30:06. | :30:12. | |
such as the current climate change Minister. The Brexit Minister | :30:13. | :30:15. | |
himself, who sits on the front bench and a such a good job for us. Like | :30:16. | :30:19. | |
those of the Cabinet member, as he is at the moment, all of these wiser | :30:20. | :30:25. | |
people said, we have to accept it. We don't have to admit we were wrong | :30:26. | :30:29. | |
but we have to admit that on this occasion, the people said one thing | :30:30. | :30:34. | |
and we have to go along it. They were so right, Mr Speaker. I was | :30:35. | :30:36. | |
wrong to say we should have carried on fighting because, as a result, we | :30:37. | :30:40. | |
got involved with the National Assembly advisory group Andrew at | :30:41. | :30:44. | |
the standing orders. We drew up candidates. We are now the second | :30:45. | :30:48. | |
party in Wales and close to becoming the first party in Wales as a result | :30:49. | :30:52. | |
of what took place. Look at how well they have all done this year. One | :30:53. | :30:57. | |
day, who knows as well. That is the reality we have. There were | :30:58. | :31:02. | |
divisions during the referendum campaign but they need to end. We | :31:03. | :31:05. | |
all agree with that. They will not end when so many people, who, for | :31:06. | :31:10. | |
the best reasons and feel they are doing the right thing, in a | :31:11. | :31:14. | |
minority, continue to try and fight this campaign. Stop fighting the | :31:15. | :31:16. | |
campaign and become part of what is going to take place now. The people | :31:17. | :31:20. | |
of this country has spoken. Of course I will give way. You honestly | :31:21. | :31:25. | |
telling me you would have stopped fighting to come out of the EU if it | :31:26. | :31:31. | |
had gone the other way? I can tell you now, I do not believe he would. | :31:32. | :31:40. | |
The honourable lady is a peacemaker. She has given me a few tellings off | :31:41. | :31:46. | |
in her time. If I try to do anything like that, I would have the | :31:47. | :31:49. | |
honourable lady having a quiet or even not so quiet word with me | :31:50. | :31:53. | |
putting me in my place. Because we would have had to have accepted what | :31:54. | :31:57. | |
the people of this country said. I am saying, let's end the division. | :31:58. | :32:01. | |
Of course we should. Look at what is happening in this political party. | :32:02. | :32:04. | |
We were all over the place a few months ago. One thing this and that. | :32:05. | :32:10. | |
All of us have got behind Cabinet members and our leader. That is the | :32:11. | :32:15. | |
lesson to this country. Our Prime Minister tonight is going to reflect | :32:16. | :32:18. | |
the will of the British people. It is about bringing power back, yes, | :32:19. | :32:23. | |
from Brussels to the people of this country but it is about going | :32:24. | :32:26. | |
through the lobbies and recognising that is what the people of this | :32:27. | :32:29. | |
country once. I say to anyone thinking of not coming through with | :32:30. | :32:32. | |
us tonight, think about the will of the British people and be part of | :32:33. | :32:36. | |
what is going to take place. That exciting new chapter in the history | :32:37. | :32:40. | |
of this great country. Come with us tonight, come British people. | :32:41. | :32:49. | |
I will start by putting my cards on the table. I loathe and detest this | :32:50. | :32:57. | |
toady Brexit. I despair that what this toady Brexit would do to my | :32:58. | :33:02. | |
beautiful country. This is to be the hardest of Brexits with cuts and | :33:03. | :33:10. | |
imaginable, and for what? If we were doing this for some lofty ideal, | :33:11. | :33:14. | |
some grand purpose, like addressing global poverty and the huge issues | :33:15. | :33:20. | |
of injustice around the world, maybe making it more palatable. But we are | :33:21. | :33:25. | |
doing this because the UK does not like immigration. That is the cold, | :33:26. | :33:30. | |
beating heart of this Brexit that underpins everything the -- | :33:31. | :33:38. | |
concerning our departure from the EU. It expresses ins and all other | :33:39. | :33:42. | |
issues are merely consequential. We live anything connected -- in a | :33:43. | :33:53. | |
connected world. With exchanges of skills and ideas. Somehow we ask to | :33:54. | :34:02. | |
believe the myth that Brexit will take us back to a better time. I | :34:03. | :34:07. | |
laughed out loud when I heard all this stuff about a global UK. That | :34:08. | :34:12. | |
is the last thing possible they want to create. This is drawbridge UK | :34:13. | :34:16. | |
they are trying to create. Look at the response from the rest of the | :34:17. | :34:19. | |
world. When you're not laughing at us, they are taking pity on us. As | :34:20. | :34:24. | |
the Foreign Secretary goes out of his way to insult the people we have | :34:25. | :34:36. | |
to negotiate with... A negotiating position? It seems to be that we | :34:37. | :34:43. | |
will indulge in for the economic self harm if we look after | :34:44. | :34:49. | |
self-interest. Apparently, timing the UK into a deregulated tax even | :34:50. | :34:54. | |
if the EU thinks about looking after its own interests. That will show | :34:55. | :35:00. | |
them, won't it? It is not just the fact of leading EU concerns me, it | :35:01. | :35:04. | |
is the new worldview that is hastily designed to accommodate this | :35:05. | :35:12. | |
isolation. I see a Brexit Britain as a world of weird 1950s mastalgia, in | :35:13. | :35:18. | |
reality that will feel very much like the pages of a Daily Mail | :35:19. | :35:24. | |
editorial. People of Britain workers if you would in the early days of | :35:25. | :35:28. | |
Ukip UK, because that is what is coming. Scotland, of course, wanted | :35:29. | :35:31. | |
no part of this but we are to be driven off the cliff edge with the | :35:32. | :35:34. | |
rest of the UK. What we have now those options. We have presented a | :35:35. | :35:39. | |
plan to stop Scotland indulging in the worst of this madness. If that | :35:40. | :35:44. | |
is not listen to, we have every right to reconsider our membership | :35:45. | :35:49. | |
of this United Kingdom. Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. When the | :35:50. | :35:55. | |
results came through on the 24th of June, I must admit, my emotion was | :35:56. | :35:59. | |
one of great sadness. And it continued for some time. Sadness, I | :36:00. | :36:05. | |
think, as you honourable gentleman for Cambridge said, not just because | :36:06. | :36:10. | |
of the economic consequences, potential or not, because I do | :36:11. | :36:13. | |
believe in the medium to long-term this country will see a stable and | :36:14. | :36:16. | |
prosperous economic future, but sadness because of the division that | :36:17. | :36:21. | |
it put between ourselves and our European partners and allies. And | :36:22. | :36:25. | |
some of those divisions that were showing up in our own country. It is | :36:26. | :36:28. | |
absolutely vital that we come together and rebuild some of that | :36:29. | :36:34. | |
social capital that was lost. We have to do so by building on the | :36:35. | :36:39. | |
decision we are taking tonight. When you're taken decision, whether it is | :36:40. | :36:42. | |
right or right or wrong or something you don't know, what you can do is | :36:43. | :36:47. | |
ensure the next decisions you take the best possible decisions for your | :36:48. | :36:53. | |
country. And for your people. That demands that we involve all the | :36:54. | :36:58. | |
peoples of the UK in this, whether from Northern Ireland, England or | :36:59. | :37:07. | |
Scotland or Wales. It demands that we immediately reassure European | :37:08. | :37:10. | |
citizens in this country of the rights here, as we would expect | :37:11. | :37:16. | |
other countries within the EU to assure our own citizens. That is a | :37:17. | :37:20. | |
matter of moral decency. It is also very important that we fight hard to | :37:21. | :37:25. | |
retain those institutions which are not part, effectively, the European | :37:26. | :37:32. | |
Union, which we are vital, technically and in so many other | :37:33. | :37:36. | |
ways for our general well-being and the health of our economy. Whether | :37:37. | :37:40. | |
that is the European medicines agency or not. Another thing that is | :37:41. | :37:45. | |
vital is that the work incredibly hard. We, selling my party, have put | :37:46. | :37:54. | |
the country this position. It is our duty to get out there and ensure | :37:55. | :37:56. | |
that we have the best possible arrangements. That is not just mean | :37:57. | :38:01. | |
writing newspaper column saying how wonderful it is, that means getting | :38:02. | :38:05. | |
out there and doing the hard work, treating people with respect, | :38:06. | :38:09. | |
building up relationships that perhaps have been more than a little | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
bruised over the last few months. It is also vital that this place has a | :38:14. | :38:19. | |
decision to make. A decision to make that we have a sovereignty to make | :38:20. | :38:23. | |
that decision over our future relationship with Europe. Not the | :38:24. | :38:27. | |
Government, not the European Parliament on its own, but we hear. | :38:28. | :38:31. | |
And finally, I would hope that we would conduct these debates with | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
honesty, clarity and not with bombast. Thank you, Mr Speaker. It | :38:36. | :38:43. | |
is an honour to speak on this debate today. Last Friday, celebrating my | :38:44. | :38:49. | |
first 100 days as an MP, I spoke to a room of 50 dedicated activists and | :38:50. | :38:52. | |
members of my stitches in Labour Party meeting. I am proud that we | :38:53. | :38:56. | |
were able to talk frankly and honestly about this vote. Many spend | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
months knocking on doors and delivering leaflets alongside my | :39:02. | :39:06. | |
predecessor, Jo Cox, advocating that people should vote Remain. Excuse | :39:07. | :39:13. | |
me. Whilst others in the room voted another way. | :39:14. | :39:20. | |
I am sure that... I thank the honourable lady for the speech that | :39:21. | :39:24. | |
she is making and I just wanted to say on behalf of the whole house | :39:25. | :39:28. | |
that I am sure Jo Cox and her family are in our thoughts as we take this | :39:29. | :39:32. | |
vote on the referendum tonight. Absolutely. I do appreciate that. | :39:33. | :39:38. | |
Thank you so much. I also voted to remain. As I spoke and listened to | :39:39. | :39:42. | |
my friends and colleagues, it was difficult and occasionally emotional | :39:43. | :39:47. | |
as I explained why I felt it was my duty to respect democracy and vote | :39:48. | :39:53. | |
in favour of triggering Article 50. Batley and Spen voted 63% to leave. | :39:54. | :40:00. | |
The people have spoken. And I must listen. However painful this is now, | :40:01. | :40:08. | |
we're leaving the European Union. It is my duty to listen to everyone. | :40:09. | :40:18. | |
Move on from levers, remains and get the best deal for everyone. Once, | :40:19. | :40:22. | |
Batley and Spen was a manufacturing powerhouse. But things move on and | :40:23. | :40:29. | |
now we are celebrated for beds and biscuits. The mills are shopping | :40:30. | :40:34. | |
centres, offices, flats or in some cases have fallen into disrepair. | :40:35. | :40:40. | |
Jobs for life I've been replaced by the gig economy. Many of my | :40:41. | :40:43. | |
constituents are in low pay and insecure work. People have not seen | :40:44. | :40:46. | |
a significant improvement in standards of living for decades. | :40:47. | :40:52. | |
Left behind by globalisation. I have no doubt financial insecurity and a | :40:53. | :41:00. | |
sense of contributed to the leave vote. That said, what my | :41:01. | :41:05. | |
constituents did not vote for is giving this Government a blank | :41:06. | :41:09. | |
cheque. They did not vote for losing jobs, having your rights at work | :41:10. | :41:14. | |
watered down. Losing maternity, paternity pay. Human rights or LGBT | :41:15. | :41:21. | |
rights. Mr Speaker, there are also lessons to be learned from my former | :41:22. | :41:25. | |
industry, the creative industries. They must also have their voice | :41:26. | :41:26. | |
heard in upcoming negotiations. In evidence given to the culture | :41:27. | :41:35. | |
media and sport director they told us the UK is the third largest | :41:36. | :41:40. | |
supplier of films, second largest producer of television in the world | :41:41. | :41:44. | |
and in the area of video games we are constantly at the cutting edge. | :41:45. | :41:49. | |
The creative economy accounts for one any live-in jobs. However it is | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
fair to seek a vote for leaving the EU was not one of the industry at | :41:54. | :42:00. | |
large wished for. The survey ahead of the referendum fund 96%... I will | :42:01. | :42:06. | |
give way. I thank the honourable lady for giving way. Does she agree | :42:07. | :42:10. | |
the point she is making is the creative industries is not just | :42:11. | :42:15. | |
about here but the places we represent and the North watch our | :42:16. | :42:20. | |
readers in this industry? I thank my honourable member for that point and | :42:21. | :42:24. | |
it is true one of our biggest expanding industry locally is the | :42:25. | :42:27. | |
creative industries and he must support that at every opportunity | :42:28. | :42:31. | |
because if we lose free movement of labour we could easily lose a | :42:32. | :42:34. | |
pipeline of highly skilled creatives and if that happens we must develop | :42:35. | :42:39. | |
a domestic training and education system that fills the skills gaps in | :42:40. | :42:44. | |
that industry. However, the time to debate these details will come | :42:45. | :42:51. | |
later. First we must vote to move this process on. Not with angry | :42:52. | :42:56. | |
denial or blind optimism but on a mission to be vigilant about the | :42:57. | :43:00. | |
rights of those with the least and those living here who support those | :43:01. | :43:07. | |
in most need. Thank you, Mr Speaker, it is a | :43:08. | :43:11. | |
pleasure to follow the member for Backley and spent and in this | :43:12. | :43:14. | |
particular bill we have come to similar decision. In the referendum | :43:15. | :43:19. | |
I believe the considerable short-term risks of leaving the EU | :43:20. | :43:24. | |
outweighed the unquantifiable future benefits but I underestimated the | :43:25. | :43:29. | |
deep mistrust of the EU. The people have decided to leave and I must | :43:30. | :43:33. | |
respect their decision and will support this bill. The hard work now | :43:34. | :43:38. | |
begins. For example, how do we access the benefits free trade from | :43:39. | :43:44. | |
outside EU structures like the single market and the customs union? | :43:45. | :43:50. | |
Some believe nothing is possible but the alternative to working for | :43:51. | :43:54. | |
success is to hope things go badly even to Will it and to be | :43:55. | :43:58. | |
ceaselessly critical and ultimately only achieve an ethical of the | :43:59. | :44:05. | |
lament, we are all doomed. None of us have perfect foresight and I am | :44:06. | :44:09. | |
absolutely confident we will have much greater success in line up | :44:10. | :44:13. | |
future of free trade agreements and some members have suggested. The | :44:14. | :44:17. | |
negotiations will begin soon. In my view we need an agreement that is | :44:18. | :44:23. | |
generous to Europeans living here, enthusiastic and continuation of an | :44:24. | :44:27. | |
academic and research cooperation and wrestled our solidarity with | :44:28. | :44:33. | |
Europe on defence, practical ways but well coming to skills, tourists | :44:34. | :44:38. | |
and entrepreneurs, free of the European Court of Justice but never | :44:39. | :44:40. | |
compromising on standards of the rule of law. And ventures in | :44:41. | :44:46. | |
pursuing our own trade deals but never underestimating the importance | :44:47. | :44:50. | |
of free trade and easy customs clearance in all we do with Europe. | :44:51. | :44:54. | |
That is what I hope the Government White Paper will lay out and I hope | :44:55. | :44:58. | |
it brings out what one nation of diverse parts together, for whatever | :44:59. | :45:03. | |
concerns about the journey we shall start positive, not cynical. | :45:04. | :45:14. | |
I want to start by paying tribute to Gino Miller, a courageous woman who | :45:15. | :45:20. | |
fought for our constitution. -- Gina Miller. She found herself and her | :45:21. | :45:24. | |
family the subject of a hideous media campaign and from the public | :45:25. | :45:28. | |
for the crime of simply being a Democrat. She prevented an | :45:29. | :45:33. | |
ill-equipped Government overreaching itself and enforcing its own version | :45:34. | :45:37. | |
of without the view of Parliament being heard. She acted fearlessly, | :45:38. | :45:43. | |
without the board and parliamentarians and Democrats | :45:44. | :45:45. | |
across the country overheard a great debt of gratitude. Honourable | :45:46. | :45:51. | |
members will know I introduced the bill to safeguard all the workers' | :45:52. | :45:57. | |
from the EU legislation after our withdrawal from the EU but | :45:58. | :46:01. | |
unfortunately it was blocked and we over four I was discussion through a | :46:02. | :46:08. | |
handed out to Bill and I do hope the Government tunes in this time. I | :46:09. | :46:12. | |
realise they are these allocated next week to discuss amendments | :46:13. | :46:16. | |
however there is no guarantee my amendments will be hurt so I would | :46:17. | :46:19. | |
like to highlight the now to demonstrate the importance. People | :46:20. | :46:24. | |
in this country deserve to know their rights at work will not be | :46:25. | :46:27. | |
thrown away. I give way. Doesn't have what she | :46:28. | :46:31. | |
had just made sure how outrageous it is and the fact members are not | :46:32. | :46:35. | |
restricted to just three minutes per speech for the Government is | :46:36. | :46:39. | |
imposing just three days for of the most important built this country | :46:40. | :46:44. | |
has faced in our lifetimes? It is very difficult and there are | :46:45. | :46:47. | |
lots of complex issues and many members on both sides will | :46:48. | :46:53. | |
appreciate that -- would appreciate greater time to discuss. I would | :46:54. | :46:57. | |
first like to say new clause nine requires the Government to produce a | :46:58. | :47:02. | |
plan on steps to ensure you workers' rights will be maintained in UK law | :47:03. | :47:06. | |
before withdrawal from the EU and I wonder if people see that and | :47:07. | :47:10. | |
tomorrow's White Paper. Close ten makes provision workers' rights | :47:11. | :47:15. | |
continue to be enforced on exit date subject to changes on the member | :47:16. | :47:19. | |
primary legislation and the new schedule one that places and primary | :47:20. | :47:25. | |
legislation each workers' rights EU directives because this is front and | :47:26. | :47:29. | |
centre from the working people who are four-minute in an increasingly | :47:30. | :47:32. | |
unstable labour market. The protections against against | :47:33. | :47:36. | |
discrimination, paid holiday, leave for working parents. They have | :47:37. | :47:41. | |
become accepting minimums for reasonable and followers and then | :47:42. | :47:44. | |
weaved into the fabric of employment. On the steps of Downing | :47:45. | :47:50. | |
Street in July the Prime Minister misrepresented those who have a job | :47:51. | :47:52. | |
at the others have security in the job and they are the millions of | :47:53. | :47:56. | |
agency workers in the care sector, retail industry, security industry | :47:57. | :48:00. | |
factories and the rely on these protections to enjoy the same wages | :48:01. | :48:03. | |
and holiday entitlement as permanent workers and in return they get equal | :48:04. | :48:08. | |
access to facilities, vacancies and amenities. Some have been reassured | :48:09. | :48:12. | |
by the Government of the Brexit will not undermine workers' rights but | :48:13. | :48:15. | |
the other comments by Matt honourable friend for Walthamstow | :48:16. | :48:19. | |
just demonstrate this is not the case. -- the earlier comments by the | :48:20. | :48:25. | |
member for Walthamstow. If it is the case can look forward to my | :48:26. | :48:29. | |
amendments appearing in the bill going forward. Despite being on the | :48:30. | :48:32. | |
other side of the bit I accept the British public voted for operated | :48:33. | :48:37. | |
but I would urge the Government to yet they did not vote for an in situ | :48:38. | :48:42. | |
contracts or anything less than they currently have by way of protection | :48:43. | :48:47. | |
in their jobs. -- they did not vote for insecure contracts. | :48:48. | :48:50. | |
May I take this opportunity to sit my condolences and that of many | :48:51. | :48:54. | |
colleagues to one of my constituents had passed away today, a great | :48:55. | :48:59. | |
Yorkshireman, Sir Ken Morrison of Morrison Supermarkets. It is a great | :49:00. | :49:05. | |
pleasure to follow the Honourable member for Great Grimsby and support | :49:06. | :49:09. | |
calls for protections of workers' rights. As many as my colleagues do, | :49:10. | :49:15. | |
too. I listened carefully to many fine speeches over the past two days | :49:16. | :49:19. | |
and none finer than that of Mike from Rushcliffe who advocated so | :49:20. | :49:27. | |
will of the peace and prosperity we have achieved through our EU | :49:28. | :49:30. | |
membership. I must say I disagree with his conclusion. It is incumbent | :49:31. | :49:40. | |
upon me to vote Article 50 through. The public, quite reasonably, | :49:41. | :49:43. | |
believe as politicians we have not been listening. Not to listen to | :49:44. | :49:49. | |
their fears regarding sovereignty, democratic accountability and got | :49:50. | :49:55. | |
most of all, regarding immigration. It would be disastrous if we, I | :49:56. | :50:02. | |
believe, if we would not therefore support the public wishes to leave | :50:03. | :50:08. | |
the EU. Many times in business you have to take a certain rate when | :50:09. | :50:15. | |
probably against your better judgment -- take a certain route. | :50:16. | :50:20. | |
The most important thing to do is not worry about whether you made the | :50:21. | :50:24. | |
best decision but make new best of the decision you have made. -- make | :50:25. | :50:30. | |
the best of the decision you have made. Members opposite block of | :50:31. | :50:34. | |
wanting in meaningful votes but by that I think they mean a veto. As my | :50:35. | :50:41. | |
honourable friend referred to, it would on whether we should actually | :50:42. | :50:45. | |
leave the EU at all. If that is what the mean then I could not think of | :50:46. | :50:50. | |
and a more effective device in getting the worst possible deal out | :50:51. | :50:56. | |
of these negotiations. That's my honourable friend agree | :50:57. | :50:59. | |
with me the British public were told there was no second guessing this, | :51:00. | :51:04. | |
it is not a bargaining position, it was a vote and decision taken to be | :51:05. | :51:08. | |
enacted by this Government. I could not agree with her more. I | :51:09. | :51:14. | |
believe this is a device and is quite shameful using a device such | :51:15. | :51:18. | |
as that to try and keep us within the EU by the back door. Clearly | :51:19. | :51:24. | |
votes of no more in this parliament would be to position where we | :51:25. | :51:30. | |
Remain. I think we need to assure confidence | :51:31. | :51:35. | |
at this point in time. There is still time for the EU itself to | :51:36. | :51:39. | |
listen to the fears of other countries and not just the UK, we | :51:40. | :51:45. | |
made our decision but other countries also have concerns. In | :51:46. | :51:51. | |
France in the Netherlands, Germany, Italy, there is great discontent | :51:52. | :51:58. | |
with many of the rules, regulations and restrictions of the European | :51:59. | :52:01. | |
Union. It is so important we do get the best possible deal for the UK, | :52:02. | :52:06. | |
but also we get the right deal for the EU. They need to listen. The | :52:07. | :52:11. | |
shifting sands of Europe and the need to see that and listen to | :52:12. | :52:17. | |
people's fears while the still is a European Union because I believe a | :52:18. | :52:21. | |
fragmentation and disintegration of the European Union would be the | :52:22. | :52:23. | |
biggest economic and national security risk we could possibly | :52:24. | :52:28. | |
face. It is time now for Brussels to listen also. Listen to the people | :52:29. | :52:35. | |
and reform before it is too late. Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I | :52:36. | :52:39. | |
am often asked by English members here why it is I support removing | :52:40. | :52:44. | |
Scotland from the UK but keeping it in the European Union and it is a | :52:45. | :52:48. | |
good question because Scotland is no stranger to the idea of sacrificing | :52:49. | :52:54. | |
a degree of independence for interdependence and indeed it is the | :52:55. | :52:59. | |
argument which underpinned unionism. When Scotland surrendered its | :53:00. | :53:03. | |
national parliament in 1707 it was to join a prototype European Union. | :53:04. | :53:09. | |
The UK. To countries which had been at war for centuries pooled Southern | :53:10. | :53:14. | |
Fried together, allow free movement of people and created a common | :53:15. | :53:21. | |
trading area. -- pooled sovereignty. The price was complete Scottish | :53:22. | :53:25. | |
independence. Across the North Sea in various similar country, Denmark, | :53:26. | :53:31. | |
both countries harbouring populations of the same, largely | :53:32. | :53:36. | |
open but with significant rural populations and large coastlines but | :53:37. | :53:40. | |
when Denmark chose to sacrifice some sovereignty upon joining the EU it | :53:41. | :53:45. | |
retained much we have lost or will soon lose in the UK. Denmark finds | :53:46. | :53:51. | |
itself today in the single market, a member of the customs union and is | :53:52. | :53:55. | |
able to enjoy all the benefits this brings. Denmark also remains in | :53:56. | :54:02. | |
control of its own defence policy, foreign policy, fiscal policy. In a | :54:03. | :54:06. | |
nutshell, there is a difference within the UK, Scotland controls | :54:07. | :54:13. | |
none of these. He is kind to give way. On the point | :54:14. | :54:20. | |
of controlling economic policy, I am intrigued, given the SNP advocate | :54:21. | :54:24. | |
independence, if they do not get away on this issue, can he confirm | :54:25. | :54:28. | |
whether the SNP believe his country should then the euro? | :54:29. | :54:36. | |
I believe Scotland should hold a referendum whether we get our own | :54:37. | :54:41. | |
way on this or not. I believe in independence whatever the outcome of | :54:42. | :54:49. | |
the vote tonight. And Honourable member with an | :54:50. | :54:52. | |
incredible degree of prescience announces we lost the referendum. I | :54:53. | :54:56. | |
am not sure if that takes our debate very much further but I am happy to | :54:57. | :55:01. | |
acknowledge we did indeed lose the referendum. We will win the next | :55:02. | :55:08. | |
one, however. During Scotland's referendum on independence, it | :55:09. | :55:11. | |
looked like some of this might change. The Prime Minister assured | :55:12. | :55:16. | |
Scotland we were a family of nations. Membership of the EU was | :55:17. | :55:21. | |
sold to the Scottish electorate as one of the defining benefits of | :55:22. | :55:27. | |
remaining within the UK. This must be a cruel irony on the day we | :55:28. | :55:33. | |
debate this, Madam Deputy Speaker. I am intrigued by what the Prime | :55:34. | :55:38. | |
Minister means when she says we are equal partners. What kind of | :55:39. | :55:43. | |
equality is it when England ten times our size, attempts to compel | :55:44. | :55:49. | |
us against our will? It is not the quality as I understand it. My | :55:50. | :55:53. | |
honourable friend is putting the Prime Minister Bright on a couple of | :55:54. | :55:57. | |
matters but would he care to put the Prime Minister right on her oft | :55:58. | :56:02. | |
repeated mistake where she tends to suggest the SNP wants to take | :56:03. | :56:06. | |
Scotland out of the EU. Would you like to take the opportunity to put | :56:07. | :56:10. | |
her right on that now and maybe some of the scramble is on the backbench | :56:11. | :56:12. | |
combustor onto the? Members of the house will be | :56:13. | :56:22. | |
flabbergasted to know that I agree with the honourable member of the | :56:23. | :56:27. | |
house. We see that as a key part of being a member of the European | :56:28. | :56:34. | |
Union. Her first trip to Scotland, to Edinburgh, a visit fool of visual | :56:35. | :56:41. | |
symbolism. She called on the First Minister and Welby did not hold | :56:42. | :56:48. | |
hands, Theresa May said she was willing to listen to options on the | :56:49. | :56:53. | |
relationship of Scotland and the European Union. What is the point of | :56:54. | :56:57. | |
listening at everything that is said. Death years? It is not | :56:58. | :57:05. | |
consultation. My colleagues, constituents and people throughout | :57:06. | :57:09. | |
our country want be part of an outward looking, cosmopolitan | :57:10. | :57:13. | |
Scotland. We want to be part of a union that is the community of | :57:14. | :57:19. | |
nations, that respects diversity and autonomy. Members of the | :57:20. | :57:21. | |
conservative benches over their professed to love the union which | :57:22. | :57:25. | |
binds Scotland and England, but the union which is dying is not you with | :57:26. | :57:31. | |
the long queue of candidate countries, it is the UK. Margaret | :57:32. | :57:39. | |
Thatcher may have started this, but I judge that the members opposite | :57:40. | :57:45. | |
delivered out our continental air partners would say. Thank you, Madam | :57:46. | :57:54. | |
Deputy Speaker. It's a pleasure to follow on from the Honourable member | :57:55. | :57:58. | |
of Eastern Barger showed he was the very passionate Speaker on Scottish | :57:59. | :58:09. | |
issues. I hope he has recovered from the curried nut from last night as | :58:10. | :58:13. | |
well. I am afraid this is the speech that I never wanted to give Andy | :58:14. | :58:19. | |
Bill but I never wanted to see. Listening to the debate over the | :58:20. | :58:23. | |
last few days and in particular harking back to the speech made by | :58:24. | :58:27. | |
my right honourable friend yesterday and his quote in particular, I must | :58:28. | :58:34. | |
make my decision in the interest of this country. Anything else will be | :58:35. | :58:38. | |
to unimaginable consequences in my mind. My other right honourable | :58:39. | :58:43. | |
friend is also quite right, we have to pit country first, constituency | :58:44. | :58:48. | |
second and party last. That is why have come up with the decision that | :58:49. | :58:52. | |
I have in this particular Bill. During the EU Referendum Bill last | :58:53. | :58:56. | |
year, I campaigned passionately on behalf of the Remain campaign. The | :58:57. | :59:01. | |
majority of our residents voted like me to remain inside the EU. In fact, | :59:02. | :59:07. | |
70%. This does not mean I've changed my views and rest assured, I will | :59:08. | :59:15. | |
continue to advocate them. I have received thousands of e-mails and | :59:16. | :59:17. | |
letters on both sides of the debate on whether or not to trigger Article | :59:18. | :59:21. | |
50 and a leading Government to begin the formal negotiations. The | :59:22. | :59:26. | |
referendum campaign was fought however, vote was held, turnout was | :59:27. | :59:29. | |
high and the public give their verdicts. The country but had to | :59:30. | :59:34. | |
leave the European Union and it is the democratic duty of this | :59:35. | :59:37. | |
Parliament and Government to ensure that we do that. The result had been | :59:38. | :59:44. | |
in reverse, I would hope that the Leave campaign would have respected | :59:45. | :59:47. | |
the decision of the British public in the same way. It is now on all | :59:48. | :59:51. | |
abuzz as one nation to seek to get the best possible deal with the | :59:52. | :59:54. | |
European Union. A new partnership with an independent, self-governing, | :59:55. | :59:58. | |
global great at home with our friends and allies in the EU. I'm | :59:59. | :00:04. | |
pleased that the White Paper will be published tomorrow and I really do | :00:05. | :00:08. | |
want to make sure that my constituents and businesses in | :00:09. | :00:10. | |
particular, which I do think the somewhat ignored any debates so far, | :00:11. | :00:15. | |
I going to be able to feed in their views in a more systematic way. If | :00:16. | :00:19. | |
were going to be leaving the European Union, we must not delay | :00:20. | :00:25. | |
further. To do so would frustrate our European friends and allies and | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
weaken our negotiating hands. I would like to clarify quickly, with | :00:30. | :00:34. | |
the Government in relation to the final vote, I'm worried as the | :00:35. | :00:39. | |
Supreme Court ruled to put this Bill forward, I wonder how the | :00:40. | :00:41. |